The Heat is On: Giannis to Miami

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[00:01:01] Yes! And it has been brought in. You are now listening to the sounds of Sports Reports As Ordered. Tonight is draft night, getting underway any second now. But of course, we gotta talk about the biggest news going on right now. The one and only Giannis Antetokounmpo taking his talents to South Beach, you know.

[00:01:26] But first, let me introduce you to the one and only, world-renowned, world-famous, cool, calm and collected. You see the name, you know what it is. Logic for your dome, he is Mr. Logical. And I'm down here in the Alamo, your unorthodox statistician. I go by the name of 255, you know what I'm saying. Let's get to it.

[00:01:50] So Mr. Logical, your reaction time. You like the trade? You hate the trade? Did Milwaukee get enough? Did Miami give too much? Oh, my bad. Before you even answer that question, like, review, subscribe, share, rate, do all the free things, do all the good things. Hopefully with a Liquid Death in your hand. We are everywhere that you get your podcasts. Say less, say more. All right. So Mr. Logical.

[00:02:19] Yeah. Let's hear it. I would have pushed harder for the Boston deal. Ooh, I knew you were going to say that. Trying to argue right off top.

[00:02:36] I would have pushed harder for a Boston deal because Jalen Brown was just finals MVP, Eastern Conference finals MVP, finals MVP a couple of years ago. And then he showed he could lead a team without Jason Tatum missing over the first 60, 65 games.

[00:02:57] So I would have. I felt like you were in a position that kind of, yes, he's not as physically dynamic as Giannis, but you don't need him to be a hard hitter. It's not like you try to trade a safety for a linebacker. This is basketball players. As long as he can get you buckets and lead your team, that's the only, that should be the only goal. I think the Miami deal. I don't like the rest of the pieces they have on a team in Miami.

[00:03:26] I don't know if people talk about Pat Riley's cooking. Like he made a trade for a guy who picked that as the destination. So it's like, okay, I get it. But I think the team's been physically and the amount of players they have available in the contract. And I don't think what we saw with the Knicks, what we saw with even with Philly and you know, we saw a Boston, a Tatum coming back.

[00:03:55] I don't think Cleveland, I mean, Cleveland might be able to retool, but I think they have a nice little core that they can run it back with. I still see this move getting Miami above five. Like best case scenario, there's somewhere between five and seven, which is what they normally are anyway, when they have like a pseudo star.

[00:04:17] But I don't think it really moves the needle. So for me, right, I'm not saying that the last part of what you said is wrong, but it's funny, right? Because we got to react to this stuff. So obviously we don't know what the Miami Heat are going to look like opening night.

[00:04:37] I imagine they're going to make more moves and do some other things, you know, like, for example, you got people like Landry Shammott and Quentin Grimes is free agents that they could, because I got concerns about their lack of ball handling, you know, now, you know, it said Davion Mitchell is their only real ball handler while Giannis can, you know, get to the bucket, draw fouls.

[00:05:02] The defense reacts to Giannis, he can kick it out. But this is where I disagree with the Boston part of it. I think the owner got it right, you know, because the owner said something that I always say, and I'm not saying that he's right because I always say it, but I'd be right. You know what I'm saying? But the owner said, he was like, you know, or the reports, I should say, say that he said something along the lines of,

[00:05:31] I don't want to sign Jalen Brown, bring him here. You know, whatever happens this year happens. And then next year he going to ask for a trade anyway. You know what I mean? And that's where, like, it goes back to what I always talk about as far as the superstars. Right. Because Giannis was what, two years removed from a championship when this whole thing started. And he was like, yo, I'm going to win this. Yeah, he started just playing on this team like two years ago.

[00:05:57] Well, no, I'm just talking about his words, though. Like, because I did a, when we first started Sports Reports' Order, one of my first two five dailies was, and that was 2023, one of my first two five dailies was Milwaukee needs to trade Giannis because he made that comment about, I'm going to win championships, whether it's here or otherwise. And I was like, yo, the paint, the writing is on the wall. Like, he's telling you, get it together or get him out of here.

[00:06:26] And the reason that I say that is, is because you ain't got to say that publicly unless you're trying to get reaction, unless you're trying to, you know, put a soft feel out there like I'm available. And that's why I get mad at these teams because they tank their leverage because they could have, they could have traded Giannis then. And I don't know what they would have got,

[00:06:50] but I imagine it would have been a little bit better versus being in these situations where you got to get rid of them. Like, it's a situation now. He's a malcontent to some degree. And there were, there were reports saying like, he doesn't want to leave Milwaukee. He wanted to leave the Bucs. So, so it's like now once you get, same thing happened with Dame Miller. I want to go to Miami, I want to go to Miami, so on and so forth. And it cheated Portland out of what they could have got if they would have just bit the bullet and traded them.

[00:07:22] But that's the, that's the old, I don't want to say the old way. That's the way that a lot of these superstars have done post COVID. Prior to COVID, it was the, the, the super team. LeBron did it and obviously with the heat and then Kawhi tried to build his little, you know, his, his, his DC comics team.

[00:07:50] And then Kevin Durant goes to Golden State, James Harden, Kevin Durant, Kyrie all in Brooklyn. So that was like the phase for a while, but we saw Carmelo do it to get out of Denver. And the same thing has happened in Miami. He did whoever organized the, the, the negotiation, whatever case may be. Carmelo depleted the Knicks bench just to go and give all of the young talent to Denver.

[00:08:19] And Denver just kind of kept going on. Like they never really had a fall off. Whereas the Knicks, he was, he had to be the man to the point where he was getting injured. Because he was carrying his team and then they couldn't get other free agents because, because of that. So I just feel like it's just not, we've seen this play before. And we both know that Romeo and Juliet died at the end, no matter how much you don't want it to happen. And I think this was going to happen with the Giannis deal.

[00:08:46] I don't see this move putting them in the top three in which when you get a player like Giannis, that's the expectation. I don't see him. I don't see him in the top three of the East next year, even if they fill it out with some role players. It's just, they're going to be filling out with role players who either Miami is going to lose leverage because agents know, you need my guy. So you're going to end up overpaying for a guy who's technically a point guard and it won't work out.

[00:09:17] So I understand your point, but this is why I think it's a little bit different. You know what I mean? Because like I said, we're reacting to this right now. It just happened last night. It's all fresh. We don't have all the answers to the questions. So we're just kind of reacting with what we're seeing, you know, and what's there. But the way that I'm looking at this is right now, Tyler Hero is on a four year for 120 extension. That's due at the end of this year for him to get his next contract. So I'm getting you out of here now.

[00:09:47] You know what I'm saying? That's, you know what I'm saying? Like, go ahead, Milwaukee. You deal with having to re-sign him for the Austin Reeves reported deal or having to try to flip him again. You know what I'm saying? As far as Kalel Ware, I was talking the other day about how him and Spolstra are always bickering through the media. You know what I mean? So now that's a headache out of the building. And then Yacquionis is only a rookie, so it's not as if you've seen the best that he has to offer to where you can go, man, we let that go?

[00:10:16] You know, and then Giannis, Bam, and Wiggins, you know, saying to me that has the makings and inner framework of a top five, top six defense at the very least. So, yeah, they might win game 70 to 67, but it is what it is. You know, Wiggins had a $30 million team option that he opted out of so that he could sign for less because they're so far over the cap right now.

[00:10:44] You know, and so that's where those tweaks come in, right? So like right now, looking at the projected roster, you know, I'm guessing Damian Mitchell, Norm Powell, Wiggins, Giannis, Bam. So, yes, do I think that's a top three, top four seed in the East? Maybe, but I also think that you don't have to be because Miami and Eric Spolstra have shown before that all you got to do is get a ride to the dance. It's the same reason.

[00:11:12] Remember when we did our preview this year, you were like, yo, like Miami, like that's playing Central. Like I'm going to give them a flyer and say they get past the, like, you know, you had them as a regular seed, but you acknowledged like, yo, this is what Miami does. They're the only team that went from play into finals. But once again, obviously you don't want to do that with Giannis. I think they're operating in a bit of an archaic ideology because let's keep it real.

[00:11:41] Pat Riley is a legend in basketball. Aside from getting Dwyane Wade, Bosh, and James to agree to take less money to play together, what real move has he made that's like, yep, he's really got Miami back? Because this Giannis trade. None. There are none. There's none. So, like, so that's what I mean.

[00:12:07] So, he hasn't made that move other than, let's do the 15 years ago. AJ DeBacha, ladies and gentlemen. I have 16 years ago when LeBron around this time of the year did the decision to go to Miami. Pat Riley's done nothing but get superstars in there and then try to run this, this antiquated 80s. I run the show. I'm not bended to anybody's whim. They leave.

[00:12:34] Then Eric Sposch has to pick up the pieces like Ty Lue and just, you know, give you pancakes out of shit. And it's like, oh, Miami's a good team. Like, no, they just have a coach that really is like squeeze every bit of blood out of the stone. And now when you get Giannis, what are you going to do when Giannis has a tight, tight muscle, quad, calf? You got to rest him because he's your blue chip. That's fine. I just need him there. I just need him there in May.

[00:13:03] So, AJ DeBacha. I still see the value in the move. I see the names moving, but I don't see the value in the move. I don't see it working out for Miami. Book it right now. If they finish in the top six of the East, I'll eat this hat. So, it depends on what you mean by working out. Like, if you mean winning a championship. No, I mean, you top. I'm not a championship guy. Excuse me. That's why I was going to bring up because that would have been surprising for me. It's supposed to be the champ.

[00:13:32] Like, you make a move for a guy like Giannis who is multiple time league MVP, finals MVP, ultra dynamic player. Just not get Giannis then? Yes. What do you do then? All right. You have $100,000. You can put $100,000 down or $50,000 in a really nice house. Or you can spend $98,000 on the Corvette of your dreams. Yeah. You got a dope Corvette, but you got no house to park in it. That's what they have right now.

[00:14:02] Right. But what do you do? But if you don't get Giannis, what's the pivot? What's the move? I mean. You just spend another three years in the play-in until the next superstar comes along? Or do you try to get Jalen Brown? Like, what's the move? If you were willing to make this kind of trade, I think Jalen Brown probably would have commanded. Pat Riley had to make better moves.

[00:14:30] Like, he just didn't have the talent on the roster to make a good trade anyway. They just gave up everything that they possibly could to get Giannis. I just don't know how you fill those gaps. I just simply don't know how. Well, that's why I'm like. Well, the guy Giannis and Bobby Porter's, but yeah. So I think that we. So I think that we as fans and people that cover the sport, we look at these things. Rachel, this is just cranberry juice. We look at these things in a vacuum.

[00:15:00] We look at them in a vacuum of like now. Right? And I get it. Right? You go get Giannis Antetokounmpo. Expectations are going to go up. That's the way it works. But I see this as a multi-year thing. Because even when we go back to it, you know, the Heat didn't win year one. You know, the Warriors didn't win as soon as they got the crew together. You know, like the OKC had the moves. They won as soon as they got Kevin Durant. As soon as they made the big move, they won.

[00:15:29] Yeah, because they already had the rest of the team. Like Miami started from a different space. LeBron, they still were number one in the league. And they just kind of floundered away in the playoffs. But it was like you knew Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, and LeBron James were going to be number one seeds that year. There was no doubt about it. Right, but my point is – Because we just said, like, you can put anybody on that team now. And that's what they did. No, correct. But the point is, is that they had all three of them.

[00:15:59] Yeah, all three. Miami is nothing more than Milwaukee with a dude that scored 83 points in a game. You know what I mean? So, like, that's where the difference is, is that, you know, there's going to be other moves. Like I said, we have to talk about it. But until August, we're not going to know what the Heat are going to look like. You know what I mean? Just like we're going to talk about Brooklyn here in a second. Go ahead. Yeah.

[00:16:26] I go back to your point of when you hamstring all teams involved in the trade process by cherry picking the team you want to go to, I think that all leverage is gone. So, if the Bucs really were able to take a Hornets phone call, a Houston phone call, a Phoenix phone call, a Portland phone call,

[00:16:51] if they were really able to, like, get two to four, like, real trade proposals plus the Miami – like, if they had, like, a real opportunity to make a good deal, I would be more hopeful around maybe some of these other deals. I just didn't think that Miami had the player capital to match giving up Giannis. No, they don't. And that's why they gave up – Giannis and Jalen Brown would have made – That's why they gave up the three picks. That's why they gave up so much.

[00:17:21] Well, that's why they gave up the three picks because Milwaukee – That's the problem that I have. Well, Milwaukee coming before this trade, Milwaukee didn't control their picks until 2030. So, that was just something that was going to come with it where Boston was only able – well, I don't want to say only able – but only willing to offer two picks. They were offering Jalen Brown and then depending on what reports you believe,

[00:17:47] they were also considering Hugo Gonzalez and Baylor Shireman. So, Miami still had the better deal unless, you know, saying, like, we're just looking at it from the standpoint of what you were saying earlier, Milwaukee would be getting this player that was a finals MVP that, guess what, wasn't going to want to be there. So, you know what I mean? So, here's the next question, Mr. Logical.

[00:18:12] I got a whole list of questions because obviously we don't be talking about the draft. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'll send it to you then. If you're Giannis, who would you rather be co-stars with? I'm not saying who knows better. Darren Peterson. Would you rather be in a lineup with Tatum as the other guy or Bam? All right. So, Darren Peterson, number two to the Jazz. You know, so one-two just like people expected it.

[00:18:42] But to answer your question, I would rather play with Tatum. You know what I mean? I would rather play, you know, Boston style even though because, you know, I think Boston style allows for him to kind of rest at times while he's on the court because you just kick it out to the corner and somebody's going to jack it. You know what I mean? Whereas with Miami, it's probably more of that grit and grind, you know, like more of

[00:19:11] what you were doing in Milwaukee, which was going to be my next point about how much does Giannis have left? Not from the standpoint that his career is over or anything like that. But my fear for Giannis is he's going to end up with Adrian Peterson knees because the way that he plays, how forceful he is. You know, he's already 31 now. Not that that's old, but he'll be 32 in December. So it's like, well, what does that look like in two years?

[00:19:37] So that's where my problem comes in with it is this is going to be a multi-year process. But are you going to have Giannis at this level for those multi-years? That's my question. Say he plays Steph Curry level because Steph Curry is over 35. And Steph Curry, like the Golden State won that championship when I really expected it. So I imagine you're going to still get a lot of production out of Giannis.

[00:20:07] The issue I have with the trade is that you make this kind of trade when this is the piece that makes this is you getting a pawn to the other side of the chessboard. Now you have two queens. It's like a dominant move. What they have right now is just a couple of good chess pieces, a couple of good chess moves. But I don't think it makes them any better.

[00:20:37] I really don't think it makes Miami better. And that's my main piece. So like the location might be great. And maybe that attracts free agents. But once again, Miami has no leverage because they are going to overpay for every free agent to fill the gaps of all the young players they got. Maybe, but there's some good ones out there. Like I said, Shamit, Grimes. You could get a Bruce Brown to do some ball handling off the bench. They're going to overpay guys.

[00:21:06] And because they overpay them, we talked about it with Jeff Teague. Like this guy's getting 30 million. You are a second year guy from the G League. You might be busting his ass in practice, but he's getting 30 million. So he's getting 32 minutes. So let me ask you a draft question real quick. So we got the first two off the board, AJ Devoncha to Washington and Darren Peterson to Utah. Now, there was another trade in the NBA last night.

[00:21:35] You know, Julius Randle to Brooklyn. You know, Nick Claxton to Chicago. And then Picks and Mo Gaia to Minnesota. Now, this is the question. So if you're Chicago now at number four, does bringing Nick Claxton in change your choice?

[00:21:58] Like if you had your choice between Boozer and Wilson, does bringing Nick Claxton in change your calculus on that? Now, granted, Memphis is going to have a lot to say about it. Because they're about to pick. Yeah, Claxton's not a score. He's more of an active rebounder. He's more of an athletic. He's an athletic capella. Yeah. So I would go with that would be like if you go if Boozer does fall to four to you.

[00:22:27] Now you have your cat go bear combo where you have the athletic defensive big that block shots and rebounds. And then you have the scoring big. That's the body to rebound. And you got your little mini version of Twin Towers. Not super athletic in both positions. But 6'8", 6'9", that frame, young guy to put the ball in the basket. And then Claxton is just your high energy rebound blocking guy.

[00:22:53] I think that's a good starting point. You know, Chicago has the guards. They have a new coach. So I just feel like you're in a position there to try to build. And that is a two or three year plan I can get along with. Going back to Miami saying Miami needs to win now. Like the tea kettle's whistling. You got to go ahead and get the sugar.

[00:23:19] But see, but the thing with Miami, but the thing with Miami, and of course, this is like I said, this is just as of today. This will change as we get down the road. But so as I look at this, you know, the Knicks are still there, obviously. And they're going to bring most of their team back. Now, does Boston have a problem? Because now, you know, we'll talk about Jalen Brown here in a second. But I'm going to just put a pin in that for the moment. You know what I mean?

[00:23:47] Atlanta still trying to figure out what they are, who they are, trying to get a big man in there. You know, you got Orlando, who's going nowhere fast. They got a new head coach. We'll see how that works out for them. Philly still has Embiid and his injuries. Milwaukee ain't doing shit. So, like, it's not like the East is this big landmine. Now, of course, Cleveland is in the mix, too.

[00:24:12] But so real quick before we wrap this up, what do you think of the trade for Milwaukee? I saw something earlier that maybe Milwaukee might be geared up to try to trade Ant. I doubt that. But I think it's just something to talk about because it's draft day. And? I like the move. Yeah. Don't talk about Milwaukee, not Minnesota. Oh, I thought you saw about that originally.

[00:24:39] Milwaukee, I think it works for Milwaukee because you can just, you're in a position to throw anything at the wall and see what sticks. You have young talent, new coaching staff. You got rid of your old star. The expectations have changed. You brought in a hometown kid. I think it's just, it's a better, I know the NBA and sports in general love narratives. I think it's just a better narrative. I think it's a better position.

[00:25:06] I think signing Tyler Hero is probably going to be something along the lines of what. I think you better walk or try to trade him at the deadline. I mean, listen, everybody keeps wanting all these guys to score, to play great defense. It's just not a thing that happens a lot. I know we have this allure thinking like all these all-time great scorers are great defenders. That's not the case. He's undersized. It is. No, but I.

[00:25:31] If you can put the ball in the bucket and then you get a defensive coach to kind of blend you in, then you go with it. But like, sometimes you need a guy to get you a bucket. You just need a guy. You need a guy whose confidence is unflappable who's going to get you a bucket. Playing for his hometown team. You're starting over. You know, like at some point you can't. I think teams start at championship instead of foundation.

[00:26:00] You can't build a house with the roof. Start at the foundation. What do we got? Young stars. New coach. My old, the old guard is gone. We're getting rid of the old, you know, the players we have from our championship regime. Small market team. Let's get a team together that the city can rally around and roll the ball up there and see what happens. So we got Cam Boozer at number three. You know, this I was just about to say that, Mike, this is your moment, you know.

[00:26:30] So just to let you know, Mr. Logical, you know, everybody's been talking, you know, Devoncha, Peterson, Boozer, Wilson. You know, Dallas Mike said that his bull is about to shake up the draft. Yeah, he got A-cub. I see he's been posting it all week. Yeah, so here we go. We're going to see what happens now that we're on the clock. So back to Brooklyn for a second. Now, what the hell are they doing?

[00:26:59] There has to be a buyout or something involved with this Julius Randall deal. But that's what I thought with Michael Porter last year. I thought Michael Porter was going to play. I didn't think – I thought that was – I thought he was young enough to be – they was going to let him be the man and then have all these young guys kind of play around. But then I remember – I believe it was like Bill Simmons or somebody said midseason. He's playing so well, winning so many games.

[00:27:25] So trade him because he was doing too well and they were winning too many games and they weren't going to be in the sweepstakes. By the time the Nets figure it out, you know what I'm saying, like the Supersonics in Vegas is going to be winning 30 games. You know what I mean? So, you know, but I never thought that I would see the day that I would be calling Ayo DeSumo the $100 million man. You know, five years, 112 from the Timberwolves.

[00:27:54] Jeez, welcome to the world, young man. But Nick Claxton to the Bulls, you know, I do like it. You know, I was talking about the Bulls the other night as far as getting bigger, you know, because, you know, with the league, after what Wimby and these guys did to get to the finals, I feel like the league might be in a position to kind of get away from being as 3-and-D dependent. They'll still be important, but it just won't be the focal point as much.

[00:28:24] And, of course, Josh Giddey, you know what I mean, like is what, 6'8", 7'6", 8", you know, and he's the main ball handler in Chicago. So, like that kind of contributes to that, you know. So, yeah, UNC, fuck them. You know, Duke with 20 players in the top five in the modern era. Salute to those dudes, but that's all I'm going to say about that. You know, but Brooklyn, I just think that – so last year they had five draft picks.

[00:28:54] And they weren't able to facilitate those. Nowhere near any of the talent. Yeah, they missed all of the talent. Yeah, and – yeah, so now, you know what I mean, here they are again, you know, making this trade. So you got Porter and Randall, which I'm trying to think of the bit in my head. I don't think it's a bad bit per se. They're the same player. Yeah, but – The ball stops at both of them. But they still got – and that's what I was going to say because they got –

[00:29:23] damn, Yeager, Demmon, and Nolan Traore. So, you know, you got your young guards, but I just don't know if a guy like Julius Randall is conducive to you trying to develop your future guards. Yeah, I remember I was betting on Denver when Michael Porter was on the team, and it was like his over-under for assists was like – Yeah, his brother was too. Point five. It's like that ball gets to Michael Porter. It's going up. It's like moving around.

[00:29:52] I think Randall's kind of the same way. You know, how we – I was talking about the Knicks and how those guys kind of like they did what they were supposed to do. Like, you know, they just didn't do – everybody wasn't out there trying to do what Jalen Brunson does. I think sometimes Julius Randall tries to do what Ant does. So, I can't imagine that working out Brooklyn. However, the logistic for it, I imagine that he's going to – I imagine that there's some kind of body. He's not going to be there. But I don't know. So, you know I got to talk about your guy. You got to pick a style.

[00:30:21] Just pick – as soon as you – You got to start somewhere. Just pick the players that fit the idea that you have for your team. Oh, here we go. Bulls on the – oh, Mike might have spoiled it for me. I'm guessing they took Caleb Wilson. You know what I mean? Like, so we got to wait for any shakeups. You know, but yeah. So, like, you know – but I do like the Nets coach, Jordy Fernandez. You know, he's been having them play hard.

[00:30:51] Because even though they're a bad team, they aren't like you turn on the TV and they're down 40 or, like, anything like that. They still play hard. They just don't have the talent. But Mr. Logical, you know we got to talk about your guy, Tim Dundon. You know, we've been talking about him, the cheap Portland owner and everything. You saw what he did today. He hired the assistant from Minnesota, right? Right. But did you see what he did? Did he – I don't know. Did he do something cheap?

[00:31:21] He gave him a one-year contract with an option for next year and an option for the year after that. I'm not signing that deal. So, he's guaranteed through next season. And then he has an option. How much is guaranteed? You know what I'm saying? I'll have to look it up. I'll have to look it up.

[00:31:49] But, like, then if he does that and does well the second year, maybe he gets a third year. But – so, this is my thing about that, though. Like – What about the continuity of your players? Well, not only that. You're setting up the coach to be a lame duck coach. Sorry. I just think that's such a poor – I don't know how this man made $4 billion. Well, this is the thing, right? This is the thing. Like, he just fired – or not fired, I'm sorry.

[00:32:19] He didn't bring back Tiago Splitter. After Tiago Splitter got thrown into the fire after the Chauncey Billups drama, got them to the playoffs, a team that hadn't been to the playoffs in quite some time. You know, they were competitive. They lost the series 4-1, but they were competitive at times with the Spurs. You know, you saw a division, you know, and he's like, no, I don't want to pay you. They were up double digits game four. Yeah, they were up double digits in game four. They could have tied if they could have kept that lead.

[00:32:50] Yeah. So, you got Caleb Wilson here at number four with the Bulls. So, everything is chalked so far, Mr. Logical. What are some of you – before we move on, what are some of your reactions to this chalk that we've seen? Well, just getting the best player available is probably the smartest thing for teams who are drafted in this position. Like, you don't need to reinvent the wheel. You have paused multiple holes to fill. So, just get the best guy. It's Pride Month.

[00:33:19] We ain't doing no pause. No pause. No, he can't shoot. He can't defend either, Mike. Like, he's straight up like a 6'9", 6'10 version of Darius Acuff on defense, you know.

[00:33:35] But he has – he's one of these dudes that they upset me, right, because I can see the development as far as the frame, you know, the athleticism. You know, he is super competitive according to, you know, the people in the know, the people that have done the interviews with him and all those type of things. But I want to see you do it before I bring you into my team, right?

[00:34:04] Like, before I give you a promotion, I want to see that you can perform the responsibilities of this new role. I don't want to give you the promotion and then allow you to figure it out. And, yeah, people are calling him KG. I don't know why. I don't see that. You know what I mean? But anyway, Mr. Logical, we were – you were talking about the chalk kid. Well, I mean, like I say – Best player available. Best player available.

[00:34:33] You take that guy that's available. Basketball is one of those sports where just having that guy can change your franchise. So don't overthink it. Well, that's why I think Utah is complete. But that depends on how those conversations went with Darren Peterson. I don't know if it just was a smokescreen to talk about he was only going to try out for Washington if he just wanted to be the number one pick. But I think Utah – That's the way it sounds.

[00:35:01] I don't know if they would have – yeah, I think he just wanted to be the number one pick over AJ. But, yeah, I think Washington got it right. I think Utah, like I said, he just took the best player available. Hopefully – and we talked about this during the season. It's like if his health and cramping was so bad during the –

[00:35:22] If his health was so bad during the college basketball season where he was playing like 30-something games, how is he going to hold up for 82 games? So if they squared that away, then if they – if their due diligence has worked out, I think it's a good pick. But if he's going to be out here low managing as a rookie, I think it's going to have Utah once again. Well, granted, because of the new rules, they can't get another top pick.

[00:35:51] But I don't know. See, this is the – I hope it works out. This is the pick that I've been waiting for. You know, the Clippers on the clock. The pick is in. You know, this is where I told you I thought the draft was going to start, obviously, because the first four were out of the way and now anything can happen because Brooklyn – I mean, I'm sorry, the Clippers could take Woggler, Keaton Woggler. They could take Michael Brown.

[00:36:18] You know, they could surprise everybody and take a Di Mara considering that – not saying that they would or should, but they did trade Zubach. You know what I mean? You know, what are they going to do with Kawhi? You know, this pick might tell us a little bit about that, you know. And Brooklyn is in line to get Darius Acuff. So this is where I was talking about, is Sacramento going to try to get to five to cop block Brooklyn? You know what I'm saying? But so far it looks like we're just going to stay.

[00:36:48] So here's the pick right now. Keaton Woggler, you know what I'm saying, University of Illinois. And I think that's probably – it was either him or Barry's because they got Darius Garland. So getting Acuff doesn't make sense there. Yeah, you can't. Mike Kell Brown – yeah, Mike Kell Brown, you know, who I do like. I just don't see the fit, you know what I mean? And that's why I think Brooklyn – he would be a good pick for Brooklyn as well. Acuff is better.

[00:37:15] But that's why I said if I was Brooklyn, I would look at one of those two from the standpoint of – because no matter what, right, you got to be smart. But it's Brooklyn. This is New York City. This is marketing. This is endorsements. This is, like, can we get on TV even though we suck? So this is where you make those type of decisions. And I know you brought up the relationship between Acuff and Iverson the other day. Iverson's courtside multiple games.

[00:37:43] But this would be like Philly getting Iverson. And I don't think they're the same player per se. I think of Acuff as more of a Damian Lillard type. I've heard some people call him a Jamal Murray type, you know. But I think Jamal Murray has just kind of become that guard that everybody just gets compared to. It's just easy to compare because he's not a star, but he's good enough that you don't feel insulted if you're compared to him.

[00:38:13] But speaking of coaches, Mr. Logical, as we wait for Brooklyn, Dusty May, you know, head coach of the national champion Michigan Wolverines. Is Jason Kidd's replacement in Dallas. But before I get your reaction on that, next question of topic of conversation. All right. Do you think it's harder for a college basketball coach to find success in the NBA?

[00:38:42] Or do you think it's harder for a football coach to find that success in the NFL? College basketball coach going to the NBA, I think it's easier. And I think even now with the NIL, the movement and the money makes it even easier because now you're already dealing with a smaller group of players. Who have the same kind of. Like better word influence on how you can coach them because of the money they make.

[00:39:13] And the NBA, everybody's getting paid. So I think you are already kind of locked into understanding. This is the role players. These are the stars. This is how the money and the minutes match up. It makes sense to you. College coach going to the NFL. It's a little different because. We've seen the greats not be able to do it well. You know, we've seen the greats like Nick Saban couldn't do it.

[00:39:41] Petrina wasn't great, but he couldn't do it. Steve Spurrier wasn't good at it. Pete Carroll, his first stint wasn't good at it. Had to go back to college. And then he went to Seattle and Russell Wilson fell into his lap. But then you saw what he looked like last year with the Raiders. So I just think the NBA is easier now, especially now with the money and the movement. And the fact that you're essentially treating these college players like one year free agents and you're managing egos.

[00:40:10] You're managing the money and you're managing the influence of the agents. And the managers and the boosters. So I think now it transitions to the NBA a little bit better. So I'm going to throw you a softball here. All right. Who's the only coach to win? Who's the only coach to win an NCAA and NBA title? Larry Brown. Correct.

[00:40:39] You know, so just softball, softball. Just get you warmed up. I think it depends on how we want to look at it. I think it's easier. Salmon. My salmon and fudge cheese here. So. So I think so I think it's harder on a football coach just because there's so many players on a football team, comparatively speaking.

[00:41:06] You know, but I think that the NBA has the diva issue where the star has to buy into you. You know what I mean? Like we saw, for example, don't make this a conversation, you know, said. But we saw like a guy like David Black, for example, you know what I mean, come in and not that he was a college coach, but from overseas, he came in and automatically didn't have that buy in.

[00:41:31] I think that Billy Donovan is a really good coach and he's had success of varying levels. But I think when he first got to OKC, I think Russell Westbrook kind of had a like, what can you show me? Like you ain't you won at college, but you ain't win on this level. You ain't got you ain't got an NBA ring. Whereas in the NFL, I think that's the culture of football. Russell never had a ring. No, I know. But that's the point. I know. But that's the point. Like, you know what I mean? It's like so.

[00:41:58] So like like so if you're if you're if you're a diva or a guy that thinks you know it all and all that kind of stuff like that. And to your point earlier about Pat Riley, even though he's old, when Pat Riley walks in the room, he just commands a certain respect. You know what I mean? When Dagenoel walks into his next job, if he leaves OKC at some point, he walks in with a certain credibility already. You know, versus, you know, Dusty May might have to depending on who's in that locker room.

[00:42:28] You know, obviously Cooper Flagg don't care. But if they keep Kyrie, for example, you know what I mean? It's Kyrie looking at Dusty May like, yeah, this is the guy that's going to take us somewhere. But in the NFL, I think the culture of football makes an easier transition for the coach, because in the NFL or in football, I should say, the coach is king. What the coach says goes. And you do have your A.J. Browns and your malcontents.

[00:42:55] But generally speaking, the locker room is going to rank and file. And they're going to at least get... Yeah, but it's such a small sample size. Mikel Brown to Brooklyn. You can end up completely ostracized as a coach by October if you're not a good coach.

[00:43:19] Because if you take a loss, right, you get a college coach in the NFL, they start out 0-3. Naturally, his instinct, because he's had so much leverage on college players, is to make practice hard for that fourth game. No breaks, new rules, you know, curfews. Excuse me. Because he wants to instill something. But these pros are like, listen, man, we 0-1-3.

[00:43:48] You don't have it. I'm checked out. So you can lose. You can lose a locker room in a matter of four or five weeks. And that's what happened with Petrino. He lost the locker room by November with the Falcons. He left before the 13th game. Because it's just, you can't instill like this, this I'm running the show. But like I said, with a college coach... I like Mikel, Mike.

[00:44:16] They already been dealing with, like I said, the diva transfer. If you don't lock in with the transfer, or your top transfer, or a guy that wants to come there, and he wants three or four million, as a college coach, now you have to work that out. So it's a smaller dollar amount, but it's the same concept. It's like, all right, this star player is going to come here for four million dollars. Obviously, he's going to want this many touches.

[00:44:44] But yeah, so I just think, I think they'll be better off. I think NBA coach will be, an NCAA basketball coach going to the NBA, I think it's a little easier. Just because I think the game is different. I think football, college football and NFL, it's so vastly different. Because everybody is just so good in the NFL, and the margins are so limited.

[00:45:10] But in basketball, you can just lean on your best player, even if you're not that great of a coach. But I also think that we talk about, in football, football is football. You know what I mean? And these coaches in college, I think, have that adjustment because we always talk about the system is the star, not you. So I think that plays a role, too.

[00:45:36] But no, I wouldn't take Mike L. Brown over Darius Acuff, Mike. But if we're just looking at this through the lens of what the NBA is today. 6'5". You know, like, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's only 190, but hopefully he can get up to 200. You know what I mean?

[00:46:03] But I think with today's NBA, especially, like, you have to be able to switch. You know, like, you have to be able to – because, like, you know, with the Knicks, they were able to hide Jalen Brunson at times on defense. You know what I mean? And Cleveland had to do a similar type of thing with James Harden. At the same time. Right, right. And, you know, Acuff, you know, is 6'3", but he's more – probably more like 6'2".

[00:46:31] You know, he's a little guy, too, as far as weight-wise. So, you know, I understand the pick on a certain level. Now, obviously, it depends on what the rest of the team is going to look like. You know, and, you know, because I don't believe that – oh, actually, hold on. Let me write this down so I don't forget it. Yeah. Because I got something else that I was going to think about. So, I got to find it again. But anyway. But, Mike – Yeah. 6'5", guys.

[00:47:00] 6'5", is the new standard for the NBA. I don't know why. Because if you look at it, it's not really working. Like, it's – how many new players are really, like, taking over? Like, SGA's been in the league for a long time. I mean, it's just a matter of, like, can you get – can you score when you need to score? And can you defend if that's your responsibility?

[00:47:24] This – this having this arbitrary, like, 6'5", is a determining factor, is – I mean, all of the Spurs' lineup is 6'5". And Alvarado killed him. Yeah. 5'11". Yeah. Now, what's crazy – what would be crazy is what if Sacramento, after all this talk – because, you know, you always like to talk about don't believe the pre-draft stuff. Like, you know, like, this is all smoke and mirrors.

[00:47:53] You know, people are trying to get their guy. They're trying to plot on you. All that kind of stuff like that. But what if Brooklyn – I mean, I'm sorry, what if Sacramento doesn't take Darius Acuff right here? Well, that would be a good hypothetical except they just took him. Oh, there it is. Never mind. Yeah, the pick is in Darius Acuff. But, no, it makes sense because, you know, like I was talking the other day about his dad's relationship with Scott Perry, the Sacramento GM.

[00:48:21] You know, B.J. Armstrong has been gushing about Darius Acuff every chance that he gets. Sacramento, just like Brooklyn for different reasons because Brooklyn needed, like, a star kind of player just because of where they play. Sacramento just needs a player that can bring hope into their franchise, that can inject, you know, like that Barack Obama change you could believe in. Because right now, the word on the street is they're trying to trade DeMar DeVrosan.

[00:48:49] And if they don't, they're going to waive him. You know, and the Clippers are expected to jump in line to get him. But you know what I mean? But Darius – If you plan on waiving a guy or trading him, if the word is out that you're going to waive him if you can't trade him, just waive him. Yeah. What are you holding on for? Just waive him. Let them go back to LA. But no, but I – but Sacramento needs this because they've been so downtrodden. And I mean, granted, just two years ago, we were lighting the beam.

[00:49:20] And, you know, they got rid of De'Aaron Fox, though. They traded him. You know, now they have a decision to make on Sabonis. You know, Zach Levine, we talked about his player option. He's opted in. You know what I mean? Like, it's so much money that he has to opt in. You know what I mean? Like, unlike Trey Young, who opted out, I thought he was going to take less, and he got more. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, five years, 212. People think the league – they think the league is going to follow the Knicks' lead,

[00:49:48] and they think these stars are going to follow Jalen Brunson's logic of taking less money. No. The league not taking six-foot-two guards and believing in them, giving them the keys. Guys aren't going to take $100 million less so the team wins. It's not happening. These things are anomalies. The mean is the mean for a reason. They want tall players, or they want guys that can shoot threes. They want versatile fours and fives.

[00:50:18] And everyone wants to play the same style of basketball. And then when it doesn't work, they get rid of the coach, and they have all these bad contracts, and the cycle continues. The bottom 12 teams in the league will continue to stay at the bottom because they're going to make bad moves. Like, Sacramento, this needs to go ahead, strip it back down to the bones, and build it back up. I think that's what they're in the process of doing. You know, that's why I was mentioning Sabonis.

[00:50:46] You know, and especially with – now, what I do wonder is how does that change strategy? Because now we have that new draft tanking reform or whatever it is. So now roster building is a little bit different because before you were like, hey, let me give her to Sabonis. Let me get rid of this guy. But now you can't finish bottom three. So you got to, like, kind of hold on a little bit. But like I said, like, the math is going to work out that somebody has to finish bottom three.

[00:51:15] And if that's where you end up, that's where you end up. But as an organization, you have to have contingency plans, but you also have to have some form of direction. And it has to make sense. You can't have a bunch of old guys with a bunch of young guys trying to play, and they're playing two different styles. You can't have a bunch of guys shooting me. Well, that's why I like what Minnesota did, right? And no point guard, yeah. Because that's why I like what Minnesota did because they had to get under the luxury tax so that – you know, under the apron.

[00:51:42] You know, so getting rid of Julius Randle was just a money dump at the end of the day, especially if they were going to pay DeSumo what they paid him. But then on top of that, you know, you can put Nas Reid in the starting lineup now so you get your big – that can stretch the floor more minutes. You know, you got Jaden McDaniels who showed in the playoffs that he could do a little bit more than just play defense.

[00:52:07] So now it makes me wonder, is time up for Rudy Gobert in Minnesota? You know, they drafted Jan Berenje last year. You know, so like is Minnesota going to take kind of a gap year, if you will? You know, because they were coming off of two Western Conference Finals trips. This year, you know, didn't work out so much. They had the injuries. You know, is next year going to be a gap year to ramp up for the following year?

[00:52:34] Because I think a lot of teams, unfortunately, are looking at San Antonio and OKC as, yeah, this is the battle of the Titans. So – but Atlanta's on the clock right now. I think they come with that. Yeah, but you're not going to – you're not going to magically put a team – yeah, you're not going to magically pull your team together to compete with San Antonio and OKC right now. He should have. Yeah.

[00:53:01] San Antonio, this is Wimby's third year, and this is their most successful year, obviously, getting to the NBA Finals and having the type of Finals that they had. But they had a couple of bad years with all those rookies. What did they have? Like three years in a row, they had rookie of the year. Or like rookie of the year, winner, and or – But some of that was Wimby being hurt, you know. Like there was a lot. Because remember he had the Bane issue. Yeah, so like I said, it takes time.

[00:53:27] So if you're going to go young, go young. Trade some bonus to a team that you can get a – Oh, you're talking about Sacramento. OK, I was still talking about Minnesota. OK. Yeah, like, yeah, just all – like all of those teams, like just move – move off of these players. Don't worry about the tanking thing because you could have talent on your team.

[00:53:51] SGA was a throwing piece in the Paul George trade from the Clippers and ended up being back-to-back MVP, finals MVP, dynamic player. He has to stop foul baiting. Hopefully they worked out because it was getting kind of unnecessary. But still, it takes time to get to that point. This isn't like a microwave league. All right, so let's get to the question or the talk that we never got to. Because we just, you know, said, I love it, though.

[00:54:21] Like, you know, this is just conversation. Dusty May, you know, you like the move, don't like the move? Well, anytime I see a college coach leave abruptly after achieving that level of success, I'm assuming it's some kind of sanctions coming down. I saw something that I couldn't verify, so I don't want to repeat it. Especially at that school, huh, Mike? Like, especially there. Like, let's keep it real.

[00:54:46] Especially at these schools where now they're allowed to use money and transfer opportunities to entice players. And I know there's not as a very Wild Wild West kind of, you know, anthology going on with these deals. There's still some things that can be violated. And I believe because the money and the acclaim and the fame and the accolades outweigh the bad,

[00:55:15] I think guys are taking that line and just erasing it and redrawing it and erasing it and redrawing it and just keep pushing the boundaries. So when I see a coach leave after that level of success, I'm like, yeah, I'm assuming, you know, that there's some sanctions that are going to come down. It wouldn't surprise me if it happened because it's just like, why would you, you had a formula set up that was working. Why would you leave for a job that's like, we talk about the Western Conference.

[00:55:45] When is Dallas going to be able to compete in the West? Based on like, if that. The Hawks take Kingston Fleming's, Kingston Fleming's from Houston, another small guard, but they just re-signed CJ McCollum to a one year, $21 million deal. So maybe this is the handoff. No, I think that you're onto something there, but I think that as long as you have a talent like Cooper Flagg,

[00:56:13] you can convince yourself that I just need to fill out the rest of this roster. And that's why I think you've got to get Kyrie out of there, like not on some negativity, like who wants Kyrie, but just you've got to let Cooper Flagg blossom now and become the player that he's going to become. You know, now Dallas is going to come. Is that with Kyrie? Kyrie? No, I think that. Well, let me let me rephrase.

[00:56:39] I think that he can because Kyrie has shown that he can play with an alpha, if you will. Kyrie would be the alpha in this situation for the time being. But I think that Kyrie is in the way of your long term goals. Like he's not going to be there in two years. So just break bread. Just break it now. Like just get him out of there now and start your future. Phoenix? Because maybe.

[00:57:07] I mean, they got Jalen Green, you know. But this is where you get into the whole when does my future start, right? Because Kyrie being there might keep you competitive, you know, so you might be close to the play in. Everything works your way. You maybe get to succeed. You know what I mean? But what does that truly get you? It gets Cooper Flagg playoff experience.

[00:57:31] But how many people from that roster that we're talking, this hypothetical roster that we're talking about, are going to be there in two years when he's ready to take off? So they're on the clock right now. So I'm interested to see if they grow, if they go breed and berries right here like the mocks have been saying lately. But we'll see. But I think Dusty May is a winner. I think, you know, of course, you know, I always love to point out he got FAU to the final four.

[00:57:59] You know, he has a certain Sig Nasty kind of attitude, but without being as abrasive as Sig Nasty. He believes in himself. You know, he's a great motivator. You know, like Michigan. And he used the talents of all these young players to enrich himself and his family. Well, I mean, think about it, right? They want to go to Congress. They want to go to Congress and stop the game from transferring. But let it go.

[00:58:29] But think about it. Move out and make as much money as he wants. When Elliott Cadeau came to Michigan from North Carolina, you know, he was considered a disappointment. That was why he left North Carolina, because he was a disappointment. You know, not my necessarily words, but that was the sentiment. You know what I mean? Then you had Dominican LeBron, who played, I think, two years in junior college.

[00:58:53] Then he went to UAB, you know, went to the draft last year to go get his feedback or whatever. And it was like, nah, son, you need to go back. So these weren't. So it's not like he got there and it was like, oh, here's R.J. Barrett and Zion, you know, go win a championship. Yeah. You know what I mean? So from that standpoint, I think that 23 year old. So, yeah, yeah, he did. He did. But I mean, that's the way you win. That's the way you win now. You know what I mean?

[00:59:21] Like that college basketball has gone, you know, one and done is over. You know, with NIL now, put the best roster together that you can. And I'm telling you right now, I hate to say it. Watch out for Louisville next year. But Mr. Logical, being that Atlanta was just on the clock, they took Kingston Flemings. Here's another conversation. The media, the last couple of hours, have been placing Atlanta as the favorite to land Jalen Brown in a trade.

[00:59:51] So two questions. One, is that real? And then two, what's next for Jalen Brown in Boston? Like they got to split, right? Yeah, they have to because he talked about it a couple of years ago, being tired of hearing his name come up in trade talks. Yeah, Durant. Yeah. And then he goes out, wins all the awards, finals MVP. They win the championship. He gets a big contract.

[01:00:17] And yet, even now, he's mentioned again in another trade. Like I said before, I would have put Tatum in these trade talks because I believe the narrative around Tatum is a little bit more positive. I think you're more likely to get that extra draft pick for the player or the phone call back. We talked about Jalen Brown since the draft.

[01:00:42] Owners, agents, powers that be in the NBA always feel like he's too smart. He's either too smart for his own good in their estimation or definitely too smart to dilly-dallying the bullshit that comes along with the NBA. I don't think he's going to take it. So I think these trade rumors of Georgia or Atlanta, I think it's because he was from Georgia. And I think that's probably like just a good rumor to have. Like he wants to be closer to home because he's sick of Boston.

[01:01:08] But I imagine that a trade to get him out of Boston has to happen because like you can't keep putting me on a trading block, especially at the level that he's performing. Like he was in the MVP running until Tatum came back and just took him out of the running. Tatum didn't play any better. He just showed up. Speaking of Michigan, Dallas goes for as Johnson.

[01:01:32] Yeah, you know, who I thought was going to be a good fit for the Hornets. I would have liked to seen him go there. But, you know, so there you go. You know, Dallas is building that front court. You know, Gafford's probably out of there. P.J. Washington probably, you know, close to out of there. Kingston Fleming's, I think that he's one of those guys, Mike, that it was dependent on where he was going to go.

[01:02:02] And I think that having a C.J. McCollum there makes that transition a little bit easier. You know, you kind of get to learn how to do it the right way. That professional, you know, he was he was on what the president of the NBA PA. So he has a certain yeah, he has a certain decorum and, you know, respect for the game that I think is a good influence on a young guy like Kingston Fleming's. But the good good news is, is that we were talking about Darius Acup.

[01:02:30] You don't got to try to convince Kingston Fleming's to play defense. You know, say he come already ready to do that. And you got him. You put him next to Dyson Daniels. You know, you got to kill Walker Alexander or as I like to call him SGA's cousin. You know, Sam, like so. So the same way that I was talking about Miami's defense with Giannis, Bam and Wiggins, that front court side of the defense. Atlanta's got that wing locked down. You know what I mean?

[01:02:58] With Fleming's SGA's cousin and Dyson Daniels. So watch out for Atlanta. You know what I mean? Like they did. They're the only team. They can make a Jalen Brown move. I imagine some of those pieces will probably have to go. So if I imagine. Well, I imagine. No, I don't think so. I think I think if I'm one of these defensive. I think they would. Your Boston. I think they would. But if I'm but if I'm Atlanta, I'm like, you better come get some of this cominga and get some of this research.

[01:03:30] Yeah, that's not going to move. I'm hanging up the phone. But you're not even going to have a conversation. Like, yo, if I'm not getting the guy who led the league in steals and another defensive guy, because. You know, Boston loves three and D guys. It's like, yeah, I'm not taking I'm not taking the failed experiment. I'm I'm shocked at the how poorly these rookies have been playing in recent years. It's just weird. Like how like they're just they have zero. A lot of them have zero impact.

[01:04:00] And they keep getting the same teams keep drafting rookies and like they have zero impact. So it's unfortunate. But hopefully they get out to me, Sean. But like, yeah, I think with Atlanta, like there's. Unless you are really able to just give them. Future draft picks and research and and then coming up for Jalen Brown, if you can make that deal to make it.

[01:04:24] But like if I'm Boston now, I need I need defense in place of the energy that I would get from jail because Jalen Brown is a good defender is a willing defender. He's a big defender. I need to get at least two guys to make up for that. So now we're entering what I was looking at as the fun part of the draft. You know, Milwaukee's on the clock right now. You got Golden State next. Oklahoma City after that.

[01:04:53] Milwaukee again. And then Charlotte and then Chicago. You know what I mean? And then if you want to add on to it, Memphis, Oklahoma City and Charlotte all over again. So this is the fun part of the draft. So I'm interested to see who Milwaukee takes here. I was looking at Nate. A meant pre draft. We'll see. Now that they've made the trade for Giannis, because now I imagine. They just signed him last year.

[01:05:22] But I got to wonder where Miles Turner stands at this point in Milwaukee's future plans. So Mike, I like Yaxle. I like Yaxle. He's like, go get Turner out of there. Yeah. I like Yaxle. But I think so. So if you go Yaxle or a meant here, I think you could probably get either one of them at 13 as well.

[01:05:48] So that's why this is interesting to me about what Milwaukee does now, because I think both of them. You don't think Mara is a pick here for Milwaukee? Well, if they're going to get rid of Turner, maybe. But I guess maybe they don't even need to get Turner. Yeah, I was going to say maybe they don't need to get rid of Turner. But I was thinking of Mara. I would like to see Mara in Golden State to replace Porzingis. But like we were talking about the other night, do they think of Porzingis as a name?

[01:06:18] So therefore, keeping him keeps us all in. But Oklahoma City has these two picks at 12 and 17. So I thought that they would have tried to make a move by now. You know what I mean? You know, so Rez, what up, Rez? You know what I'm saying? DeBoncha, number one. Peterson, number two. You know, Boozer, number three. Wilson. Wagler. Brown. Eight-cup. Lemmings. And then we just had Morez Johnson. So Milwaukee Bucks are on the clock.

[01:06:49] But as far as the Jalen Brown thing goes, this is one of those things that's a reminder that this is a business, right? Because years ago, people would have been having the conversations of, you know, why does he want to leave? Like da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And it's like, well, if this was the first time they had him in trade talks coming off of this season, they did just blow the 3-1 lead in the first round. You know what I mean?

[01:07:15] Maybe you could have that conversation, but you were trying to trade me for broken Kevin Durant. You know what I mean? And, you know, and you've been in the media has been putting me in Tatum, trying to put me in Tatum against each other since the moment, you know, he stepped foot in here. Then I'm the one that won the finals MVP and all that stuff. Yet he's still the one getting the acclaim. He's still the star.

[01:07:40] You got people like Stephen A. Smith out here talking about how I can't win awards because nobody likes me. And I don't see none of y'all motherfuckers in this locker room defending me. Like, I don't see y'all. Like, I think Brad Stevens made a statement. But I don't see y'all defending me. I think it's probably a disconnect.

[01:07:58] And it's probably, like, I'll go back to, like, a confident NBA player, especially one who has accolades that dwarf what you can do in basketball, on top of the fact that he also has basketball accolades. It's like they don't believe he is all in with basketball. And he would rather be, like, his own brand. He'd rather work for Nassau, which is all fine. Like, you should be allowed to do that.

[01:08:28] But they treat it like an indictment. Yeah, see that. They treat, like, an indictment for Jalen Brown. So, if that was him, the only problem is, like, his contract is so, like, such a gigantic cap responsibility to any team that wants to trade for him. But in that team that wants to trade for him, you know that he has a beef with Boston.

[01:08:55] It's just looking from the outside, outside looking in, you know he has a beef with Boston. So, you might be able to get, you know, not necessarily like a Randy Moss for a fifth-round pick kind of deal. But you might be able to get out of there with just, hey, let's just go ahead and split this up as amicable as possible and move on to the 2026-2027 season.

[01:09:21] So, Mike, so, Mike, see, this is where we get into that part of the draft, right? Where, when I think of comparisons, when I think of player comparisons, you know, we talk about, well, not us, but a lot of people talk about how deeper this era is talent-wise than previous eras.

[01:09:49] So, I think this is one of those moments where they would say that, right? Because I don't think Braden Burries is going to be a star or have a star trajectory. But to me, they just drafted Derek White. That's what Milwaukee just did. Like, we're at a point where Derek White is going top 10 in the NBA draft. Because there's no dogs. Like, you saw that clip.

[01:10:16] The dude was like, listen, man, if these players' mom don't look like Kevin Durant's mom, you're not getting any dogs. You're getting a lot of AAU kids. You're getting a lot of former NBA players. You're getting a lot of guys that just happen to be in the best prep schools, the best leagues around the country. They go to the best schools. You're not getting a lot of VJ Etcums living off a generator for six or seven years in the Bahamas and, you know, getting it out of the mud.

[01:10:44] You're getting a lot of, like, fine-tuned guys that got great training that aren't dogs. Like, James Harden is a dog. Like, you seen his teeth before he joined the league? He was a dog. Russell, what's it like? These guys used to be like dogs. And now they're just really good, talented players that do all the technical things right because of the way they've been trained up. But when you get them in the league and one of them has to be you got to fight off Kawhi to get your shot off, it's like, damn, this shit's tough.

[01:11:11] Yeah, I think Braden Buries is going to have a long career. You know, I think that he's going to be a guy that just sticks around. He's going to be the defensive specialist. You know, obviously he's bigger than Alvarado, but that type of guy that, you know, gets dirty, gets his hands in the mud. You know, so I think he will have a role that will translate. I just don't know if he brings enough offensively to justify.

[01:11:40] But, you know, all the Mocs had him going to Dallas. So he's actually a pick late going off of what the Mocs had. And then you had some people were going out on a limb and saying that the Clippers would take him at five. So, you know, this is where we are, you know, and now the Warriors are on the clock, you know. But Mr. Logical, there's rumors that Houston is listening to trades. You know what I mean?

[01:12:05] Like basically anybody can go, it sounds like, you know, which is kind of funny because if we start another NBA season with Kevin Durant on another team, I just quit. I just quit. You know what I mean?

[01:12:22] But also, you know, from that, if you're Oklahoma City at 12, coming off of the postseason that they came off of, what are you looking to do? What are you looking for if you're OKC? Are you looking for somebody to stash?

[01:12:47] I'm looking at who my team am I going to have to pay a lot of money to next offseason. And can I draft his replacement now? So whoever is like due a contract that's like that. Would that be Hartenstein?

[01:13:09] So it's like whoever whoever's due that large money because I'm already shelling out what damn this 700 over like 700 for three guys, right? Between Chet, J. Will and Shea. Let's see. I think you're at like 325, 225, 225, something along those lines. So if you're already pumping out 700 million dollars for those three guys, whoever's due their money next, I'm drafting your replacement right now. And appreciate your services.

[01:13:36] Hope you like your championship ring you got last season. Oh, OK. So this is where they like, like, let's just keep it real. Like, this is probably where you get a young boy out of Michigan, the seven foot four guy. I think he comes in, plays alongside Chet because we saw that Chet is not really ready to bang. OKC was number 15 in payroll this year.

[01:14:05] But yeah, they they they're going to jump up if they got to pay another guy 100 million. So so so when so looking at the draft originally before the mocks came out, you know, when the tournament was still going on and I was thinking NBA draft. I had Oklahoma City taken Dominican LeBron, you know, Sam, because, you know, you don't necessarily. You're on a championship clock.

[01:14:33] So, you know, you're I don't know if you need another guy to develop because they drafted Sorber last year. You still got top pitch, you know, who's a first round pick that is just now, you know, starting to get some minutes. They went and got Jared McCain at the trade deadline. So you don't need another guy potentially to just sit there, like especially with the way that they lost this year with the injuries and that. There you go, Mike, maybe, maybe, Mike. I don't know yet.

[01:15:00] I think they got one more run in him before they start talking like that. I think I think they do it one more year before they start doing all that. Just got his money to like he. Yeah, he did. So I don't know if you're another team that really wants to take it on unless unless being six foot eight is appealing, you know, six, seven, six, eight guy that can handle the ball score where he does. But I doubt that OKC breaks down there, their team like that.

[01:15:26] But I'd say like I figure the guy that's up next for a big payday, your replacement is about to get their name called. But Golden State's on the clock right now. So who knows what they're going to do? Right. You know what I mean? And like I said, if I was Golden State, I would. Oh, Golden State took Dominican LeBron. They had to have a face a lot, I assume. Yeah, there you have it. And that's what we were talking about the other night when we were doing our mock.

[01:15:55] I was saying that, you know, I think that he was going either Golden State or Oklahoma City because these are teams with championship aspirations that his level of experience, you know, because because because in the draft nowadays, if you're older than 21, you know, most teams consider you a liability, you know what I mean? Because you're already in your prime or close to it. So what am I going to get from you in the next five years?

[01:16:22] That rookie contract is what, seven years? You know what I mean? Yeah, I have you locked in for a while. Yeah, seven years, Dominican LeBron is 31. You know what I'm saying? And if he's Dominican LeBron, that's if he's telling the truth about his age. You know what I mean? So like he might be more like 33 at that point. So if you're a team like Sacramento, for example, he don't do nothing for you. You know what I mean?

[01:16:50] Because he's either going to be too good out the gate for what you're trying to develop or the other side of it. Is he going to be alive? It would be for real because he's not necessarily the most athletic. He's not necessarily, you know, like the guy that's going to jump out the gym or any of those type of things. So it might take him a half a season to get adjusted. But I think he'll play hard. I think the defense will be there.

[01:17:17] And that's what if you're OKC, if you're a Golden State, especially like, you know, is Jimmy Butler going to be ready when the season starts? You know, because he went out pretty late with the injury. So, you know, this is why I want to give him until Christmas if you can. Yeah. So OKC's on the clock now. Dominican LeBron shedding the tears. You know, and, you know, so I think that's where we are right now is just, you know, yes, sir. Yes, sir. You know, we're representing in the crib.

[01:17:47] You know what I'm saying? Welcome, AJ DeBacha. You know what I mean? But, yeah, so with all that being said, you know, is there a team out there? Or actually, let me ask this. Let me go a different route with this. So since El Residente is here, you know what I mean? He shared something last night that I felt like, you know, say it might get some juices going.

[01:18:18] So apparently Phil Jackson, you remember him? Yeah. According to Phil Jackson, Tim Duncan and LeBron James are the only players in NBA history that you could put on any team and get them to the playoffs. What do you think about that?

[01:18:48] I don't like it. I mean, I don't. To the playoffs? Like, that doesn't make any sense because, like. Well, it does to some degree. You couldn't put on any team and get them to the playoffs? No, you can't. And that's what I was just. That's the exact person I was going to bring up. I don't think you can. You think Tim Duncan. And that's just playing style wise, not skill wise. You could put Tim Duncan on any team and get them to the playoffs.

[01:19:18] I think you could, you know, say because. I think he played great in Utah. He brings a lot of intangibles as well. San Antonio. Yeah. I think he played great there, but I don't think you. Well, I think I said something similar to this the other night. You know, we can look back on a team like San Antonio with revisionist history because we have the results in front of us.

[01:19:41] So, like, you know, you got Ginobili, Parker that nobody had high expectations for besides their families, you know, and they became perennial champions. You know, they won titles with Steven Jackson getting a lot of minutes, you know. Then he did it with the different version because he did it with the old school with David Robinson and I don't think that was Tim Duncan.

[01:20:08] I don't think the offense and the team was, like, molded around Tim Duncan. I just think Tim Duncan was the best player for that style of offense. Well, he's the anchor. Yeah, but I think he's the anchor and he's unselfish. And he's culture. Yeah, I think he's a great player. I just don't think – I don't think the way he played – That's fine, Mike. They got five of them.

[01:20:37] They got him to every, like, team. I mean, so it's like – Oh, my bad, Riz. My bad. My bad. I got the quote wrong. But same – Trying to see me. I mean, but hey, you know what? You got to make the playoffs to be a contender. I don't know. I mean, I think prime Jordan going to any team in that eight-year window where, like, the Bulls were the –

[01:21:06] you know, to include his two years where he wouldn't play baseball. I think you could put Jordan on any team in the league in that time frame. I don't know about Dirk. But he's saying every team, like, period. Like, not just that era. Not just that era, but, like, all the way through. All the way through their whole career? Not Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan was a rotation player for them. I took it to mean – I took it – And maybe you can correct me, Rez.

[01:21:33] I took it to mean any team in NBA history. That's the way I took it. No, I think he meant, like, any team while they were playing. Like, while Tim Duncan was in the league, you could put him on any team while he was in the league, just like you could put LeBron on any team while he was in the league and make him contender. I think you could put Jordan on any team in the league while he – like, unless you're talking about for the entirety of your career, but even with that, Tim Duncan towards the end was a little different. I don't know about Dirk.

[01:22:03] I don't know about Dirk. I don't know about Dirk. I don't know about Dirk. Not about Dirk, because, yeah. Because Dirk doesn't – Dirk doesn't anchor you defensively. You know, like, LeBron – LeBron can anchor you defensively. He can lead you in the offensive categories. He can rebound. He can – We're talking about contenders, Mike. We're not saying that they automatically win the championship. Yeah. I think he can start – he gets the rebound.

[01:22:31] I think he can dribble it all the way up court, get to the bucket, because you can't defend him coming downhill. I think he can pull up. I think he can make the right pass. I think he can do all those things. But I feel like Jordan – I think Jordan could be a – Jordan, trying to think contender. Healthy Grant Hill. I still want to be disrespectful to guys in the league.

[01:22:57] I think Magic – I think Magic – I think what Magic was able to do. I think Jason Kidd – I think Jason Kidd proved it. I think Jason Kidd made every team – every team. Anytime he had, like – Jason Kidd, Chris Paul. He made them contenders. Yeah. Well, Chris Paul didn't necessarily make them contenders. Not making them contenders. Yeah, but like – He definitely improved them, though. Jason Kidd made them contenders. Yeah. Yeah, and there's OKC with another Michigan player, Adai Mara.

[01:23:26] You know, the guy that's the same size as Wimby. You know, so he might weigh as much as Wimby, too. I think he's a little bigger than Wimby. You know what I mean? But, yeah, like – so there you go. There's the first of OKC's two picks. I like it. You know what I mean? Even though they did draft sober last year, but he could probably play the four. Rez has added Jason Kidd to that list. Yeah. You know, and Mike agrees with that in CP3 as well.

[01:23:57] What about somebody like – Shaq? Jokic. Jokic? Shaq? Well, she's probably Shaq chased all those rings all those years, and his Latin is – but – I mean, if Phil – like, I don't understand the context of it, but if he's talking about prime, these players, then, yeah, I think it's a lot more players.

[01:24:26] Julius – I mean, Julius Ervin, I think Barkley in his prime could go to any team and – but – Well, we – like, for the Kobe point, you know what I'm saying? For the Kobe point, we saw how bad those teams – well, we saw how bad those teams were with Smush Parker and Chris Mim and, you know, how bad they were. They were – you know, they were the eighth seed, you know, with him even averaging 35 points a game.

[01:24:53] So I don't know if he falls into that just from a playing style standpoint more than – and that's not to shit on his skills because he is who he is. But that's – What about Magic? What about Magic? Yeah, I said – yeah, I said – Oh, did you say Magic? Okay, my bad. I said Magic and Jason – Magic and Jason Kidd, I think, are – but they got – oh, real quick, they got Mara 7'3", barefoot, 260. Yeah, they had Wimby 7'3", barefoot.

[01:25:21] And then they – but Wimby's 240. When I – like, the NBA finals they put up and said he was 240. So – You ready for this one? You ready for this one? Let's hear it. What about the foul baiters? SGA? Yeah. Can I put him on teams and get a contender? No. Because he doesn't – I'm not sure what he does.

[01:25:53] If – we saw what it looked like without J. Will and when Chet was kind of just flailing in game seven. You know, he had a bunch of – He had a lot of bad – He performed. In those moments. Yeah, he performed. But he had like – he didn't have that – It just seemed – I don't think you could put him anywhere. I don't think you could put him on Sacramento right now and they'd be a contender next year. Okay, okay. I had another name in mind, but I just – oh.

[01:26:23] Yeah, because – His playing style doesn't get everybody involved like that. Like his – the way he plays. Like, okay, sees playing style moving the ball, guys shooting the threes, but like SGA in of itself doesn't like – he doesn't create offense for other players, which is – All right, Mike. I think that's important to be a contender. I promise I'm not trying to fight, Mike. I'm not trying to fight. Hey, what are we doing with Scottie Pippen, though?

[01:26:51] I think Scottie Pippen joining any team, any guy that never made a deep playoff run because they were the man – like, give me your Carmellos, your T-Max, Anthony Hardaways. You put prime Scottie Pippen alongside those guys, I think it changes. The same way he changed the Bulls, I think he does that for every team. But he has to go – Not him independent of himself. Not him independent –

[01:27:19] He has to go with the guy who – I'm not saying Jordan could give it a hump, but like – A couple of your ears, Mike. There's a lot of focus on Jordan, so getting Pippen there, I think he could do that if he went to a team like that. Kevin Durant. No. We've seen him. Well, see, the reason I brought up Kevin Durant is, you know, because Mike brought up Dirk earlier.

[01:27:47] And I kind of view them the same in this type of conversation. Obviously, KD can dribble and do some other things, but I kind of – uh-oh. See, we've got him started now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he changed the Bulls. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he allowed Jordan to be able – He allowed Jordan to be able to – To be Air Jordan, yeah. Not have to guard, you know, some of these guys all the time. You know what I mean?

[01:28:16] Like, for example, like, for example, to the point about SGA. SGA can't do what he does without J-Dub. You know what I'm saying? Even though J-Dub isn't necessarily this great player, it just works. You know what I mean? We saw Jalen Brown without Tatum this year. How does Tatum look without Jalen Brown? So I would say that to some degree, they change things for each other. You know what I'm saying? In that type of situation.

[01:28:45] That doesn't mean that you've got to knock the other person. Like, this is not a – by saying that, it's not a knock on Jordan. It's not saying that Jordan wasn't as great as he was. But it's almost like a lesser version of my Draymond point of, like, he saved a lot of what Steph had to go through. You know, running the offense, initiating the offense,

[01:29:11] being able to spot up versus having the responsibility of setting up his offense. He probably added two or three years to Steph's career. Yeah, if Steph is bringing the ball up and Draymond is setting that pick and roll and then Steph tries to get the ball back, it's probably taxed energy-wise. But Steph can just kind of get to the baseline and then wait for Draymond to get the pass from whomever brought the ball across half court

[01:29:37] and then work his action from there where he can get the little slip screen and he bounces between his legs and little brush screens. Yeah. Hey, why y'all playing? Why y'all playing? I know we be talking all that shit. Why we playing? I know we be talking all that shit. But James Harden could probably go on this list too because he gets teams deep. Nah. And when you look at the teams that – some of the teams that he was on,

[01:30:05] if you look at some of the teams that he was on, you know what I mean, as far as like it's easy to be like, oh, look at CP3. But there was a whole lot of Trevor Ariza, you know, Clint Capella. It wasn't like they were stacked. You know what I mean? And then like he went to Cleveland this year, you know, with what, 20 games to go? They made the NBA Finals. Yeah. You know, like – If you're talking about James Harden – I don't think they make the NBA Finals with Garland per se.

[01:30:35] I think if you're talking about James Harden, the way he was playing in Houston, if he kept playing like that, then I believe we can have a little – you could have, you know, another feather in your argument with that. But it's like the fact that he even changed his playing style to try to join all his other teams and then like the success just never – he never amassed the success he had in Houston. That's the thing. Well, I think he did the same thing.

[01:31:04] I think he did the same thing Durant did to some degree. No, I think Durant still does what Durant does. No, no, I just mean – I think Durant still does 27, 8, and 7. No, that's not what I mean. That's not what I mean. That's not what I mean. I mean as far as like trying to get the championship, like, you know, it was one of those things where ring culture. So, like, I got to join up. But Kevin Durant didn't change. Kevin Durant just brought his basketball to your team.

[01:31:30] Like when Kevin Durant got to Golden State, he just did what Kevin Durant did with way more – Well, that's because the Dacons were trying to stop a dude from shooting from 85 feet. Yeah, stopping the other guys. Yeah, so – and that's the thing. So, when James Harden – when James Harden got to Brooklyn, he didn't do what he was doing in Houston when he got to Brooklyn. Like he went straight from Houston to Brooklyn. It was like he didn't bring 30, 60-point – you know, granted, 60-point triple doubles. No, but that's – but I think that's a part of what makes him effective. A bunch of 40-point triple doubles. I'm not saying he's not effective.

[01:32:00] I'm just saying like that – the switch up in the style never – he never got back to that – to the mountaintop of where his original playing style was. Like if he would have switched it up to this 23 points, 11 assists, 7-8 rebound guy, and like he would have made an NBA Finals run with Brooklyn and then left and made another one with – when he went to the Clippers. Right. But he just – that never happened. Hey, what did I say?

[01:32:28] You know, what did I say the other night about what player and what team I was the most confident were going to go together on draft night? I can't remember who it was. Milwaukee and Nathamon. You know what I'm saying? I thought they would grab him at 10, but I knew – this was one of those things where I knew he was going to Milwaukee as soon as the draft listed itself. You know what I mean? And I also – earlier tonight when we were talking about this,

[01:32:56] like I was saying that Milwaukee can grab somebody now because, you know, Amit would be there at 13. So, you know what I mean? So, there you go. Nathamit to the Bucs. It's destiny, baby. You know what I'm saying? Now let's see what they do with Killer Kuz because, you know, he was upset about being in these trade rumors with Giannis. You know, he's like, yo, I'm an NBA champion. There's no reason to be upset. He said that he's an NBA champion that's willing to do anything to help his team win

[01:33:26] and can get you 20 points whenever and don't throw him in there as filler. I watch him be remarkably ineffective every single time the Bucs were on TV. It's just like he gets the long rebound and he's coming up the court. Like what he was doing in L.A. when they got their chip, it's like he didn't want to keep doing that. You know, we talked about Matt Barnes. I don't know about all that, Mike.

[01:33:58] Matt Barnes, like, listen, I played 14, 15 years in the league, and I just played defense. I think Kuzma could have been that guy that just 6'9", 6'10". You could be a great defender, opportune, you know, opportune scorer, but he wanted to be a scorer and ball handler and do all sorts of stuff. I'm like, I remember one play with the Lakers. He came down the lane and did some over-the-head pass to LeBron

[01:34:26] that went, like, over the second row behind the backboard, and LeBron just looked at him like this. No, he fell. That's what it was. He tried to throw the overhead pass and he fell down, and LeBron just looked at him like this and just walked back up the court. I was like, yeah, you're done. But that's what Kuzma gets you. I wonder – so I am a little surprised. I know that – like, I thought we would see some trades tonight.

[01:34:57] Like, I thought – There's never any trades. You know what I'm saying? If you think about it, a lot of these guys are – because of the – we talk about the dogs and, like, these – you're not getting any – you're not getting Amari Stoudemires. You're not getting Greg Oldens in the draft anymore. You're not getting Strowmouse, Swift. You're not getting these super just, like, I got to have this guy after five in the last four or five drafts. Like, we haven't seen the guys, like, who went six or 12 or 17

[01:35:27] and were like, yo, I cannot believe he fell to 17. It's just been a lot of guys that they draft. They try to fit in a position. And now with the NIL and the transfer portal, you're getting a lot of guys who are just going to play four or five years of college, and if I could rack up six or seven million dollars in these years of school, I don't even really need to go to the NBA. So this is just – it's just a testament to, like, a lot of these – they're just – teams are trying to fill out their rosters

[01:35:56] with this new wave of players. None of them look, play, feel, or have the same level of excitement as guys that – if you think about Jalen Brown, none of these guys even give you that level of, like, oh, look at the size, Tatum, look at the explosiveness to the charisma. You know, it's like it's just – these guys are just – they're just guys. They're just, like, really good, talented basketball players, and it's like there's no need to jump for anybody

[01:36:24] because if you got number one through five, then you're gold. And other than that, you try to get the best guy available that can help you thin out your contract situations. All right, you ready for a quick game of 2-5? Bob, what the hell are you talking about? Let's hear it. Who says no? Jalen Brown for De'Aaron Fox, Carter Bryant,

[01:36:53] and maybe Champagny if you need another player to sweeten the pie. Of course there would be picks involved. Boston does? Okay. I think Boston says no. I'm just not sure what De'Aaron Fox's value is to Boston. Okay.

[01:37:19] I mean, because it's like he's not, like, really a perimeter guy. He's not really an off-ball guy. He also is not really a creator at the point. He's more like a combo guard that shoots a lot. You know, like, it's just not – it just doesn't seem like it would work. And like I said, what is his stock right now with the blame that's been, you know, assessed to him for the NBA finals,

[01:37:48] even though, like, everyone just kind of faltered? I just can't imagine Boston looking at that as, like, a good deal. All right. Jalen Brown for Jamal Murray. No. No. Yeah, I'll say no. I'll say no emphatically. I don't think – I don't even think Boston takes that text message seriously if you sent it, let alone – Not even a phone call, but a text message.

[01:38:17] If you text me, I think you might get blocked. So, Jalen Brown – all right, let's see. How can I do this? Jalen Brown for – Remind me of his age, 28, 27, 28. Let's see. He is 29, born in October, so this is his year 30 season.

[01:38:47] Okay. All right. So, all right. I don't feel like playing no more trading games, so I'll just name teams. Jalen Brown to Houston. Obviously, for that one, that would probably be Durant. Boston says no. Portland. Yeah. Scoot and Dame Lillard. Klingon, maybe. Klingon.

[01:39:18] No, I don't think they would trade Dame again. I don't think they would trade Dame again. That's what I'm saying. Maybe Shaden Sharp. Nada from Boston. Or Denny Abia. He got the complexion for protection in Boston. I mean, that's – Oh, how does Steinbach to the Hornets? Oh, go ahead. Yeah. I think that's interesting.

[01:39:45] If you – if the relationship has soured, then I will go get a guy because Denny Abia is trying to get it to the bucket. He's not going to shoot the three, so everybody else is going to shoot the three. That allows Jason Tatum to not be forced to shoot twos, even though he hates doing it. He wants to shoot threes all the time anyway. Then he's like, I'll take care of that. Like, give me the midi. Give me the paint. I'll take care of that. The other four of you standing around here, shoot these threes.

[01:40:12] I don't know if that – I don't think that comes to fruition, but I would – if I'm Boston, I'm doing something like that. Like, I'm sending – not to be vindictive, but it's like I don't owe you any favors. I get it. You got the championship, but our relationship has soured. I don't owe you any favors, so I'm getting the best that I can get if that's a good deal.

[01:40:33] Well, apparently on all these podcasts and mock drafts and all these people talking, you know, Trey Murphy is the gem of the NBA right now. But, you know, Charlotte went and got the guy that led college basketball in rebounds last year. You know, Bulls are on the clock. You know, Hannah Steinbach. So I think this was a good pick for Charlotte because they got enough scoring. You know, you got LaMelo. You got Brandon Miller. Concanipple led the league in threes.

[01:41:03] You know, you're pretty good. They got Kobe White off the bench. I think he's a free agent though. But you got enough scoring. You know what I mean? Now let's get some guys that can do the other things because, you know, the Hornets, if the season would have started January 1st, you know, the Hornets might have beat the Knicks. And, you know, they – The Knicks, Hornets, and the Dodgers finals, yeah. Oh, here you go, Rez. Here you go.

[01:41:37] Who they giving up? Who's the trade? Who's leaving? Are you giving up LaMelo? You giving up LaMelo? Or are you giving up Brandon Miller and – I don't know. You might have to give up Connipple. You know, that's a tough one. You know, Bulls are on the clock. Who you want, Mike? You know what I'm saying? So the Bulls probably got to go guard here, I'm thinking. You know, maybe a wing.

[01:42:03] You know, because the Nick Claxton deal, I think, kind of threw off the calculus, you know, for everything else. And getting Caleb Wilson earlier, I think sets the stage. Oh, that's a good one, Mike. I like that. I like the way you're thinking.

[01:42:22] But if the Bulls don't get him, if the Bulls don't get him, then if he goes to Detroit, I am absolutely loving that fit. You know, Cameron Carr out of Baylor, you know, so we talked about him the other night. He was the guy that had the awesome combine, the 30-point game. You know, it would, but it would be must-see TV because it would be like, there's no way they shoot another one.

[01:42:53] They might go Houston 0 for 29, right? They would get 40 nationally televised games because, like, this is going to be a show. Yeah. Mellow and Boston with the crazy Boston, especially if it works. If that – Mellow and Tatum, and if it's working, can you imagine LaMellow because we only have LaMellow. LaMellow. We're not going to race Carmelo in. I'm here for LaMellow.

[01:43:23] I'm here for LaMellow ball against Darius Acuff first to 45. Eight turnovers each. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm waiting for. You know what I mean? But I don't know, man. Like, you know, so, like, nothing has been so shocking so far in the draft. I think Mares Johnson going as early as he did was a little shocking. But to his former coach. Right, right. That makes sense. That kind of dilutes the shock value. It does.

[01:43:53] It does. I want my guy. Yeah. So – You know what I mean? So, you got that. You know, I think everything – I won't call it chalk. You know what I mean? Because Atlanta, they didn't shock me. I mean, I think it's a little interesting. Everything else I think just fits. They just got rid of – they just got rid of Trey Young because they didn't really like the lack of defense from the small guard.

[01:44:19] Unless he's willing – unless he really is an upgrade defensive here from Trey Young, which I think most players are. Nothing's really shocking. Like I said, I think teams are just really – I'm shocked by Trey Young's contract more than I'm shocked about anything that happened tonight. Like I said, I didn't think guys were going to take the Jalen Brunson route and take less money.

[01:44:49] But maybe – No, I'm just shocked. I'm just shocked that Washington gave it to them considering, you know – Like I said, unless they just believe that he's the veteran to help them move forward. Like I just can't see – Are they keeping AD? That's to be determined because he wants a max too. And you can't max both of them, I think, because you've got – I mean, you do have all this young talent that you can kind of pick and choose who you want to keep and who you don't.

[01:45:19] Like they better not let Keyshawn George go, for example. But, you know, they have enough pieces to where it can work for this year. But I just don't know what the benefit is next year, the year after, because he's just going to get older. You know what I mean? No, Trey Young's a good player, Mike. Like I just – But giving him $212 million when you're out here winning less than 20 games is a choice.

[01:45:48] Like I don't think Trey Young's – What is it? Wins above replacement or whatever. Like his win shares. I don't think he's like top five in the league in win shares. They ain't going to go from 19 wins to 45 just because they kept Trey Young. You know, but that's just me. I could be wrong. I'm willing to be wrong. You know, they got Trey Johnson last year in the draft.

[01:46:14] $212 million is a lot of money, like you said, for a team that's consistently, you know, poor. Well, especially for the NBA that we're talking about, like kind of phasing out these smaller guards. And, I mean, obviously – See, that's the thing, right? Like what becomes an outlier and what becomes a pattern? Because Jalen Brunson just won the title. But y'all ain't Jalen Brunson. Yeah. Jalen Brunson plays different style, left-handed.

[01:46:43] He plays – he generates and looks for contact. He went at Wimby. Yeah, it's like – Crunch time moments. It's like he plays a little different. It's like when everybody tried to run and gun with the Warriors and you ain't got no damn shooters. Yeah, you don't have Draymond that said – you know, you don't have a 6'7 point forward that is rebounding and leading the fast break. Don't tell me yet, Mike.

[01:47:13] I'm a little bit behind you. You know, it's Pride Month, so I can't say the word, but you know what I mean. You know, it says, are we going to see Bulls on the clock here? Don't spoil it for me. I got Silver talking right now. I got him just waiting on you. Oh, Mike. Oh, I like that. Okay. Well, I don't know if I like it for the Bulls. I like the player.

[01:47:43] You know what I'm saying? He was one of my sleepers from the other night, Daylon Swain. You know, I think this guy has J-Dub potential. You know, I think that once he develops a jumper, if he develops a jumper, but I think he will because he seems like he's a hard worker. You know, he's – you know, he cares. Like, I think he's one of these guys that – How you a guard, you get to the draft, you're not already a shooter. I get it.

[01:48:13] Guys aren't like 45% from three. Because he's like 6'6", 6'7". It was probably just dunking on everybody in high school. You know what I mean? But I think this guy, like, has potential. Like, last year, Cedric Cowart was that guy for me. And Rashear Fleming, those were the two for me that I felt this way about. I just think that this guy is a complete player. He's just raw, like, as they say.

[01:48:42] You know what I mean? But, yeah. Yeah. The NBA being such a win-now kind of league, it's like, why these guys only really get, like, a fair shake? As a rookie, if you draft me in the first round, like, you got to get me out there. Like, I mean, granted, you got to earn that spot. But in the same sense, it's like, my value goes down if you don't – you know, if I don't get my shot.

[01:49:05] I just felt like a lot of times they have these guys, they either draft them too high or they don't give them, like, enough of an opportunity when they get in the league. Well, like I said, I think also there's, like, a bit of a carryover from the old guard of players. Like, the guys, like – like, even guys like Malik Beasley. Ant's probably a guy that plays a lot like the old guard where it's a little bit more size and a little bit more aggressive.

[01:49:35] A lot of these guys are playing kind of like Trey Young. Trey Young is not like a – like I said, he doesn't create contact the way Jalen Brunson does. You know, like guys who play like Josh Hart and Adenobi. There's a lot of guys that are kind of playing real, you know, finesse basketball. A lot of moves, you know, space in the step backs, the way LaMelo plays.

[01:49:57] And there's – those guys, I think, sometimes because LaMelo is a special scorer, some of these other guys, because they play that finesse way, they're easy to defend. Because, like, yeah, we know what you're trying to get to. We can push you around. You've always been taller than all your competition. Your path has been kind of cultivated. And then you can't – you can't get off the defense of a guy like even Derrick White. Derrick White's, like, defending the hell out of these guys because it's like this is NBA. It's a different level to it.

[01:50:26] Yeah, so a lot of these draft picks, I think, end up in that kind of G League purgatory because it's like – So I think that – You're not ready for the old guys because they're still here. My old heads are still here playing basketball. I still wouldn't classify it as shock just because I like Daly Swain. But I am a little surprised that he went this high, you know. But I wouldn't classify it as shock still.

[01:50:54] So Memphis is on the clock now. You know, I like this five-minute clock, you know, keeping it flowing and everything. You know, then we got OKC and then Charlotte, and that will be the end of our fun run. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, the Bulls doing all right, man. But like I said, Mike, remember, like, they going big. You know what I'm saying? This small ball stuff is over in Chicago. You know what I'm saying? Chicago trying to be the revolutionaries, the visionaries.

[01:51:24] Yeah, I think teams are probably so looking at the Spurs like, yeah, we need to get 6'4.5", point guard, 6'5". Like, you know, we need our Dylan Harper. We need our Champanys. See, I got to trigger Mike again real quick. You know, he's going to be, you know, saying what the people that drafted thought P. Will was going to be. You know what I mean? That he never developed into. You know what I mean?

[01:51:51] But this is who that guy is. You know, so I think this is a good pick for the Bulls. We'll see how the rest of the team fills out. You know what I mean? They still got Giddy, like I said. Nick Claxton. Caleb Wilson now. You know, so Jalen Smith is still on the roster. So now I think you bring Collin Sexton back to get that scoring punch off the bench. You know, so, yeah, the Bulls are doing something here. You know, and Tiago is going to make them play defense.

[01:52:22] You know, because you can't understate what he did in Portland this year. You know, I thought that Portland was going to be a surprise playoff team this year coming into the year. But once Chauncey went away, you know, it was – I didn't know what to expect. You know, and I don't think anybody did. But Tiago came in there and was like, no, we have a mission. We have goals.

[01:52:49] Yeah, and he was like, listen, I learned all this stuff from Greg Popovich. We're just going to do what he did. Uh-oh, don't trigger Mike. Don't get Mike triggered. You know what I'm saying? Good coach. Memphis waiting for the pick. You know, so Memphis, you know, Ja Morant, right? You know, what's going to happen with Ja Morant? You know, is he going to survive the offseason? One, because nobody wants him.

[01:53:15] Two, because that could theoretically – you know, this is where you get into all that stuff. Like, you probably can't make the money work to get him to Miami. You know what I mean? But you could probably get him somewhere like Minnesota. You know, but you just gave DeSumo that 112, so maybe not. Yeah, you're not – I'm not sure if Ja Morant has the trade value that we all –

[01:53:40] I think his stardom and his excitability that comes with the way he plays basketball, I think you want him to go somewhere where you see him all the time. But if he's never available because the way he plays, he gets himself hurt, falling on the ground trying to dunk on everyone. And it starts from Iowa. Remember, he had the pass against Florida. I think – Mike.

[01:54:09] I think that – I don't know. This is going to be interesting. You know, so Ja Morant, it wouldn't surprise me if Ja Morant ended up in one of these two places. The first, Orlando, because they've been another team that has needed a point guard since I needed hair. You know what I mean?

[01:54:37] And, you know, Jalen Suggs ain't the answer. He's good to keep around for defensive purposes, but not running your offense. You know, and then the other team, how crazy would it be to see Ja Morant on the same team with the guy that went number one over him in the draft, the New Orleans Pelicans?

[01:55:05] I say no just because they drafted Fears last year. You know what I mean? But, hey. I say I would hate to be the New Orleans coach and have guys that went one and two on my team and still not make the playoffs because both of them can't stay healthy enough to play 65 to 70 games combined.

[01:55:35] Like, it would just piss me off. Like, yo, really? This is my – because it seems like no matter what happens, those guys just aren't available for large chunks of the season in, like, prime moments. We saw in that play-in game a couple years ago against the Lakers, a Zion guy hurt. After he had, like – I think he just put in his 44th or 41st point. I don't know if Miami got the money to get it done. I don't know if Miami got the money to get it done, Mike. They're already $43 million below the cap or over the cap.

[01:56:05] Yeah. You know what I mean? Wiggins just – you know, he opted out, but they got to pay him still if they want to bring Noel Powell back. You know what I mean? That's a lot of money, man. That's a lot of money. You know what I mean? I mean, I think, you know, like – I don't know. What about John Morant to Chicago then? Nah, man.

[01:56:28] Like, John Morant will end up somewhere like – maybe Sacramento or something like that, some kind of basketball purgatory. Orlando might work, but I think you got to probably move a lot of your pieces to make that happen. Washington, not Washington, not Minnesota, not Chicago, not Dallas. Well, Chicago's got a few things.

[01:56:57] They could finally get rid of Patrick Will. You know what I'm saying? They could get rid of – well, not get rid of, but he's been – Maybe Brooklyn. Get rid of Dillingham. You know what I mean? So, I mean – Maybe Brooklyn. Brooklyn – oh, no, you don't want to go to Utah because you could buy a gun in Walmart in Utah. Nah, Utah. He would have a real day buying guns in Utah. Nah. Like, they have gun shows all the time.

[01:57:26] I bet you right now if you Google Gun Show Utah, there's one this weekend and next weekend where you could just walk in and buy a gun. No, I think Utah's good. Yeah. You know, I think Utah's good because they got Keontae George and they're going to have to extend him next year. But they also have Isaiah Collier, you know, off the bench as well, you know. So, I don't know. I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, I'm trying to think. And that's what I'm saying. John might have to be a buyout unless Minnesota bites the bullet.

[01:57:56] But I just don't know what the – I got to go check the money because, you know, since they gave Desumu all that money, you know. Yeah, I can't imagine you're going to pay two guys who pretty much play the same position. That's a good question. But I think Ace has come around on Utah, though. Like, I've heard nothing but Greek things, you know, like during this year. So, you know.

[01:58:26] Just shooting to the side of the mountain. There you go. What about Ja – so, you brought this team up earlier for a different reason. But what about Ja for Jalen Green and get him back with Dylan Brooks? Devin Booker? I don't know. I don't know if that moves the needle.

[01:58:54] Like, I just think his availability is just he's going to – they're going to have to do some kind of trickeration to get Ja somewhere. But you see the trade? So, yeah, there's a trade. Finally. Bennett Sturks to OKC. Another ball handler. You know what I mean? So, now it makes me wonder – well, now it makes me wonder if they're going to bring A.J. Mitchell back. You know, and then, you know, Memphis is on the clock again.

[01:59:24] But this looks like – yeah. Yeah. So, now Memphis is on the clock because OKC just traded their pick to them. So, it's going to be one of those they drafted. Yeah. And whoever they got is probably going to still come up there with the OKC hat too. They better be changing that out. But, yeah. So, like – I don't know.

[01:59:45] I imagine that Ja, if you're looking at – like maybe if they do somewhat of a pseudo house cleaning in Sacramento, maybe you could fill him in with the DeMar DeRozan spot. But I don't know how that works with Acuff. So, that's – so, that's – I think that's off the table. Golden State's probably not on the table. L.A. is not on the table. Either one of those L.A. teams. Phoenix, you already have Jalen Green.

[02:00:13] So, it's like why – why create a new experiment instead of just kind of fine-tuning, you know, a player you already have. Dallas, no, because you already have Kyrie. And if you get rid of Kyrie because you want to get Cooper Flagg as experience and bring in John Moran and stifles that. San Antonio, no, because you already have the Aaron Fox for another $200 million.

[02:00:37] New Orleans, maybe because it just sounds like they're probably the only team that's willing to make like a desperate move. Ja for Scootin' Hubbard. Yeah, it would have to be something like that. But, yes, it just would have to be one of those teams that they're nowhere near contending. Hey! And they want to just move Ja off the spot.

[02:01:03] So, Memphis is getting my Tyrese Maxey impersonator, Ibuka and Corey, you know, out of Stanford. I talked about him the other day. Average 23 and a half at Stanford. Questions about how short he is, you know, in stature, of course. And then you got his – there were questions about his playmaking where I think that he was an okay playmaker, but he played for Stanford. What do you want from him?

[02:01:33] You know, that's the way I kind of look at him. But I think he could be a Tyrese Maxey clone if everything comes to be for him. Good pickup for the Memphis Grizzlies. You know, speaking of supplemental drafts, you know, real quick, I know this is NBA draft night, but the NFL said, no, Brendan Soresby. You will have to file in 2027. Yeah, I knew what you meant, Brendan, but you said it, so I had to roll with it.

[02:02:01] Yeah, dude, you got to face some kind of, like, resolution to the problem that you're currently – like, we need something. You can't just be like, oh, I did this thing, but I'm good now. And then the NCAA – Someone has to judge your behavior. Yeah, he's not getting – And then the NCAA finished the – or made the five-for-five a rule now. So, you know, you got five years to play, basically.

[02:02:30] They passed it today, so – I like it. So we'll see what happens. Oh, I don't know about that, Rez. That's nuts. That's ugly. Like, so your point about Fox and Tatum, duly noted about how disgusting that would look. But Ja and Paulo, I don't know, man. That's ugly for the other reasons. You know what I mean? It's just not a lot of shooting.

[02:03:00] Yeah, it's just – yeah, I don't know. Like, I think Orlando – they got the coach out of the San Antonio assistant coach. They should be – they should have – they should be better off. I would strike while the iron's hot and try to move one of my, you know, Wagner or Wagner or Apollo in this time.

[02:03:26] I just feel like it's – I don't think that team is going to be able to get far. So I would try to get – you know, I would try to get, you know, find somebody that's looking to – This is Orlando that we're talking about. This is Orlando we're talking about. Now, granted – They never get any shooters. You know, Sean Sweeney – Yeah.

[02:03:47] Sean Sweeney was the defensive coordinator, if you will, of the Spurs while he was here. So, you know, like, they also – when they got Devin – Desmond Bain last year. And, of course, you know, it was the – they got the – they sent the four picks to Memphis.

[02:04:12] So, you know, you kind of, like, mess up your own supply when you play those kind of games. Like, I think I would have – I think I would have rather kept those picks and got somebody more dynamic. Kept those picks according to the Knicks. Yeah, that's the Knicks. He did play great, but, you know, but – but until they needed him. You know what I mean? But it just depends on –

[02:04:41] 24 in the second half. Yeah. In a closeout game. Blew it. And it blew the series. That was crazy. They were up 24 in the second half of a closeout game and couldn't get it done. Scored 19 points in the second half. Yeah. Dusted in the second half. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah, remember, we were talking about that. They didn't score for something like 20 minutes of real time.

[02:05:12] Like – Like, real life clock time. Yeah. They didn't score for like 20 minutes. It was like, bro, you scored 60 first half points. Yeah. Like, how do you only come out here at night? Like, how do you get that cold in the locker room? You know what I mean? I don't even know. You know? But, yeah. So, I don't know, man. Waiting to see who Charlotte's going to take care.

[02:05:41] You know, Toronto, I think, might go LeBaron Phylon. You know, we'll see. Because I think they need a point guard. You know, they beat Cleveland probably if they had Emmanuel quickly. But I know Jamal Shedd is a free agent. You know? So, we'll see if they want to pay him. I think they should. But we'll see. You know, Toronto's got the big guys. You know, they might have been to this big party before Chicago, actually.

[02:06:09] You know, with Scotty Barnes, Brandon Ingram, Jakob. You know, RJ Burt's not necessarily a small dude. Yeah, but he just has almost no shot creating. Like, he's not a shot maker threat at all. He thinks he is. His form is still terrible. It's like, you got to be able to. You have to be able to stress the defense.

[02:06:36] And Toronto just has a bunch of guys that just don't really. Like I said, I think it's just a matter of roles and expectations. And I feel like a lot of teams stack their team with guys who try to all do the same thing. You know, you need a couple of specialists here and there. You need a guy that's clearly, this is our bucket guy. Yeah, it's great that you can get a bucket. But right now, either it's Ingram or it's Barnes or however it's going to work.

[02:07:04] But it's like, we need someone who can. Who's willing to go from 20 shots a game to 16. But go from four assists to seven assists. Like, you need those kind of guys. Especially when you have that talent. Because what happens is you have this collection of talent. And it doesn't work. And then you ship the guy off. And it's like, yeah, you probably could have been better off. But you didn't. You didn't like cultivate your team to where like, okay, this is his team.

[02:07:33] He's the man. We talked about it. We talk about the heat all the time. It's like, once the way he was like, yo, LeBron, you got this. Yeah, I had a chip here before you got here. But like, you got this. Now we're all going to settle into our roles. So Charlotte went and got the best shooter in the draft. You know, Christian Anderson out of Texas Tech. We'll see if there's a trade there. If not, then that might mean that Kobe White is on his way out.

[02:08:03] You know what I mean? That would be a good pickup for somebody that needs some scoring punch coming off the bench. If Kobe White becomes available. So you go. So the Raptors are about to be on the clock now. Followed by the Spurs. Followed by the Pistons. Let's go. You know what I'm saying? Cameron Carr. You might be hearing your name called in the next couple of picks.

[02:08:31] But yeah, I really like this Christian Anderson guy. Like, I really like him. I say shades of Steph Curry and CP3 in his game. I don't know about the CP3 part. But he is a shooter to that level. I just don't know. Like, obviously, the NBA is different, like you were saying earlier.

[02:08:57] And obviously, he has to put some more, a couple of more pounds on him. I think I saw him at like 175 or something like that at 6'3". Really don't believe he's 6'3". So he's another kind of one of those guys. Yeah. Oh, that would be a good move, Mike. I would hate it, but that would be a good move. You know, the Lakers need all the punch they can get. But the question is, you know, if the Lakers max LeBron and then they give Reed this contract,

[02:09:27] Reeves, what are they going to have left to get somebody like a Kobe White? They got him 6'1", 180. They're going to have a, all right, LeBron, I'm willing to pay this tax this year. But you better deliver. Yeah, Kobe White is a free agent. Yeah, he is a free agent. And that's the problem with the Lakers, you know what I mean?

[02:09:51] Like, you know, is that there's this hope or I guess they feel like, hey, we got to squeeze everything out of the proverbial LeBron juice that we can. You know, we got Luka. Like, all you're doing is hampering yourself because, you know.

[02:10:15] They, I think the Luka trade was just so appealing and they just thought it would just work. And it's like, I still think it's a dumb trade for Dallas to have made the trade. But I knew it just, the expectation were going to be too high in L.A. And that it just wasn't going to, it wasn't going to work.

[02:10:43] Because the problem with L.A. is like their role players don't play free. They play based off the energy kind of established by J.J. Reddick, Luka, or LeBron. He was like, those guys aren't catching and shooting. You know, Marcus Smart's going to do whatever he wants when he gets the ball in his hand. Because he's like, listen, I'm out here balling.

[02:11:05] But the Lakers are just, they seem to be beholden to like this perfect basketball versus the best shot available. They're like, I think they want every play that they call. Because I've seen J.J. Reddick just go, hey, he calls a play and the guy's standing in the wrong spot. And he calls a timeout and he's screaming. He's like, you're supposed to be over here. It's like, yo, don't just go pick and roll. Go pick and roll, kick into Dalton Connect in the corner. Freeze Dalton Connect.

[02:11:35] So, yeah. Like, yeah, that's the. No, that's all it is, Rez. That's all it is. But, like, you know, I mean, if you want to throw away another year of Luka, then go for it. But we talk about certain teams and we talked about it, you know, in football terms. Like the Dallas Cowboys, yeah, they put talent on the field.

[02:12:04] But I think Jerry Jones is just as content with them being the talk of the town as he is with them. Well, they've got new ownership now, right? But it's still the Lakers. But they're not like the bus family should have been like, oh, this is our family team. But they were on that same thing. Like, listen, we seem to get we need to sell these court size seats for forty five to fifty thousand dollars a pop.

[02:12:28] I think they just got because if not, you would have got rid of Rob Palenka a long time ago because the only thing he did was be there when LeBron had already gotten there after Magic Johnson. He traded away or let the championship team just go. Didn't refill it with the same type of players. And then his buddy called him and said, hey, I'll give you Luca. I really hate when you ask me this question, Rez.

[02:12:58] I really hate when you ask me this question. Nobody don't have to. You don't you don't have to get somebody better than LeBron. You get two to three players that will help you out. You know what I mean? Like LeBron is a liability come June, you know, or come May, I guess. You know what I mean? Because I don't think he's a liability. I think he will be. He will be a liability at some point. Like like it is what it is. He's as old as he is. You saw.

[02:13:26] Remember that first half against Denver a couple of years ago? No, I know. But yeah, that. Yeah. And then in the second half, it was just like that was the last hurrah. Like enough of you. So so you don't like conversation people have with Cristiano Ronaldo right now. Like he's not that impactful of a player anymore. Bro, he is 41. It's 17 year old. All right. Let me look at these three agents. I'll get back to you. Let me look at these three agents real quick.

[02:13:51] But with LeBron, I think you as an organization, because even though this is a game, they're playing a kid's game for a King's ransom is also still a business and having the Kobe retirement game and having a LeBron retirement game and retirement season is probably on their minds as well. And I think that is something that they think about as well.

[02:14:20] And on top of the fact, like LeBron was there in the playoffs. It's just they were outgunned against OKC. I think that they could. I think that they could. I think that they could let LeBron go. I think that they could bring in. John Collins, Landry Schammett and a Dean Wade. And they could be OK.

[02:14:46] Because I mean, because even going back to the Mavericks team that he made the finals with, you know, looking back at that team, he had Kyrie Irving. They traded for P.J. Washington midseason. You know what I mean? Gafford and Lively. Here we go. Alan Graves to Toronto. How about that? Santa Clara stand up. The school that gave us Steve Nash and J. Will. You know what I mean? So it's not like I think like we're looking at this too much in a vacuum.

[02:15:16] Like, yeah, you're not going to get a guy that's going to come in and say. Have the basketball IQ that LeBron has or makes the passes that LeBron. Yeah, but they weren't going to do nothing like the Lakers weren't going to be OKC regardless of how healthy they were. You know what I mean? That's not worth. That's not worth me putting another year. Because like I said, me and Raph had this argument a couple of weeks ago.

[02:15:43] You know, Luka's about to enter like year nine or ten. Like, this ain't year five for Luka where we can piss off this year because, you know, we want this LeBron money or we owe LeBron something. And then we got to figure it out and we got time on our hands. You know what I mean? And Luka, you know, with the type of style that he plays, like he could be one of these guys that's prone to get hurt throughout his career. So, you know what I mean?

[02:16:11] Like, I don't know if that's I mean, like I said, I've never been fast enough to pull a hamstring or any other kind of muscle. So, like, I've been fortunate in that regard to that my athleticism has a cap. But with Luka. It doesn't. It doesn't. Luka. Hold on real quick. It doesn't, though, because Luka is a Luka. Luka would be a liability just because, you know, of Luka.

[02:16:34] But LeBron, if the Lakers were to make it to the finals or the Western Conference finals, which they're not going to do, I just don't know what you're going to get out of him. But the problem is, so Austin Reeves was hurt, right? Luka was hurt. But you were, depending on Luke Kennard, who's done nothing, you know, say he hits shots every so often, but he's done nothing.

[02:16:58] DeAndre Ayton, you know, who's impersonating Pursuit of Happiness, you know, then you got, like, what? Marcus Smart is a good piece, you know, good defense and everything. But if you had guys that could spot up, because Rui is a free agent now, so you could get a guy where I mentioned John Collins. He could play that Rui role and give you a little shot blocking and give you defense.

[02:17:22] You know, Dean Wade gives you another 6'9", 6'10", guy that can step out and spread the defense. You know what I mean? And then you got Landry Schammett. We saw what he did. You know what I mean? I think you're just hung up on the word liability. The point is, the Lakers don't need LeBron. Forget that I said the word liability. The Lakers don't need LeBron.

[02:17:46] You're saying it because you think the Lakers are building, you know, are attempting to build a championship contender, and you feel like they should because they have Luka. And Luka's, you know, he's getting older by the months like everybody else is. Why bring him if you're not trying to? Because I don't think every team is trying to win a championship. I think some teams just kind of recognize, like, listen, being popular is enough. Bro, we're talking about the Lakers, man.

[02:18:09] Like, if there's a team that's always, like, we've seen many years where the Lakers had a lot of smush Parker and Larry Nash Jr. And they, you know, like, they're not always just this. Well, no, no team is. But they also have. They got the second most titles in NBA history. Of course. And if they were really serious about winning basketball, they would have gotten rid of Rob Palenka. They wouldn't hire all these one-off coaches.

[02:18:37] They would have offered a real contract to Tyronn Lue. I think they would have done real basketball things. To include maybe moving LeBron a couple years ago or saying, hey, we're not. But they aren't. And you know they aren't. And I'm not saying LeBron is the greatest player. Well, that's why I told you. You don't want to be the guy that's known for trading LeBron. You don't want to be the guy. That's a thing. LeBron. You don't want it. But you also don't want it. Because if you don't. If you don't have. But he's a free agent.

[02:19:06] You can just let him walk. You can. You can let him walk. But I think it's enticing to have LeBron and Luka on the same team. And the injuries to Austin Reeves and Luka in the playoffs. And just the battles. And like, you know, we talk about the fouls and everything. And with OKC and the disparity, whatever. But they still were like. Those games were like 130 to 114. Like, they still were like, you know, pretty much getting handled.

[02:19:35] Because OKC's team is built with guys who all know their role. And they know it effectively. The same way as the Knicks do. I don't think the players for the Lakers, the role players do execute their role at an A level. Like I talked about the Knicks. I think the role players for the Lakers play at a C, a B level at best. In the course of a week of basketball.

[02:20:05] So that Luke Kennard 27-point game, I don't think he probably had 27 total points. I think he scored like one the game after that. Like, it was just one point. So that's the problem. It's like when you get Rui. Like, Rui had all those. Rui hit like five or six threes. But yet, JJ put Kleber in the game at the end. It's like, you just don't have.

[02:20:31] Like, Mike Brown knew who to put into the Knicks games in these playoff runs. Like, the entire playoffs. Landry Sham is 10 for 12 in the Eastern Conference Finals. He knew what buttons to pull, what triggers to pull, so forth and so on. JJ Redick just doesn't have. Like, I don't think he has all the assets. I think he's also kind of handcuffed into playing Bronny. Who's a good role player. But there should be a guy on your rotation that comes off the bench before Bronny. But we're also.

[02:21:00] If you're thinking about winning basketball. Like, that's what I mean. I don't think they're like doing winning basketball. I'm not even doing revisionist history. I'm just saying, like, before you put Bronny in the game, there should be another guy on your bench that comes in before him. But because you are beholden to LeBron, which I understand that piece of it. But you just have to be honest. We're also doing the Matt Ryan Flacco thing. Like, this was only his second year as the head coach. So, you know what I mean?

[02:21:29] Like, obviously, like, there's flaws there. You know what I mean? But I'm sure a lot of these dudes. But he behaves like he is, you know, Phil Jackson 2.0. The way he's cussing out Luka. The way he's cussing out the draft. Phil Jackson acted like that before he was Phil Jackson? Phil Jackson was a little. He wasn't that demonstrative. But I think a lot of the coaches in the 80s were a little. They were a little. Yeah, they were a little. They had a little flash to him. They had a little pizzazz. They had a little too. You know, a little cocaine in the locker room. They had a little something going on.

[02:21:58] JJ Redick is just like. It's just. I think L.A. is so based on star power that the conversation that you and I are having to include Rez is about basketball. Rez is like, who are you going to get this better? You have an idea it's getting better. There's I'm the third guy in the room saying, hey, I don't think we're trying to win a championship, but I'm trying to sell these seats to the Kardashians for $45,000 a pop. I'm trying to get Jack Lickness on the sideline.

[02:22:25] I'm trying to have Spider-Man, Batman, Wonder Woman. Hey, those people were there with Swish Parker and them was there. Yeah, but I don't think they were paying. They were paying six grand. I saw an episode of Entourage. He was like, I paid two grand for these seats. Yeah, that was two grand. Now it's 40 grand. Here we go to Spurs. Here we go. Here we go with the pick for the San Antonio Spurs. Let's see who's coming to the Alamo. Jaden Quaint. Hey, I said that the other night. Yeah, we both said it.

[02:22:55] Yeah. Yeah. Get that. Get you a center or a big man that allows Wimby. So Wimby can go play shooting guard. Yeah. He could go play the two, three. He could be a combo guard at seven, four. Now the only problem is, the only problem is, of course, you know, he's coming off of this ACL situation. You know, he got hurt at Arizona State two seasons ago. Came to Kentucky last year. Didn't start the season.

[02:23:24] Came back about midway through. You just saw the highlight against St. John's. You know, he only played two or three games. The St. John's game was his final game. And then he didn't play the rest of the season. So you're talking about a guy who came out with a lot of hype. You know, that was supposed to be one of the best players in college basketball. Here we are. So I'd like to pick pending.

[02:23:52] He can actually get on the court and stay on the court, obviously. But Detroit's on the clock now. Let's see if Cameron. Oh, hold on. We got a trade. Looks like we got a trade, actually. So is Memphis on the clock now instead of Detroit? But so Memphis, you know, they've had a decent night. You know, they went and got Carlos Boozer, you know, with their first pick.

[02:24:21] You know, that's a great pick. Put him next to Edie. You know, you got a big playmaker. Especially if you are going to lose John Morant. You have somebody that the offense isn't going to fall apart with. But, you know, with their second pick, they went and got Ibuka Okorri, who could be the other piece of that. You know, and like I said, that Tyrese Maxey kind of speedy guy, you know, get to the cup. You know, like he's a scorer. You know, at that size, he's a scorer.

[02:24:49] And Memphis is a few years away anyway. You know, so it's not as if you're looking for somebody to come in right away and get Memphis back to where they were three, four years ago when they were the two seed. Oh, how the mighty have fallen. I thought that was going to be there. I thought it was going to be okay. Memphis is back. I was thinking the Marc Gasol, Zeebo days. And then they'd say, you know what, we don't need none of these players no more.

[02:25:19] It just started letting dudes go. Like it just, I don't know. I just think, I think teams take the playoff losses as an indictment on the entire construction of their team versus like, okay, how do we retool? And I just felt like. Or this is just a step in the process. Like, yeah, you got to, you got to learn how to win. That's hilarious.

[02:25:47] But that's, that's unfortunate because they had, they had like, when they let Dillon Brooks go, I was like, why? Like he was obnoxious. But sometimes you, you like Charles Buck said, you need a crazy guy. You need a guy to play defense. You need a guy to get his own bucket. That's your start line. And it has to have one of each. Dillon Brooks was your crazy guy. And maybe he could have toned it down. Maybe it was a little too excessive. Like how he went to, what was it?

[02:26:15] Game four against LA and OKC. He was. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it was like, it's a little goofy, but like if that's his persona, let him rock with it. Well, remember like when the playoffs started, he was the one talking about like, hey, yo, we're the team nobody wants to see. You know, even though they were in the play in. Nobody wants. And it's crazy. I mean, they did get out the play in. But it's crazy.

[02:26:43] The crazy part about it is because they were five and five in their last 10 games of the regular season. And he said that. It wasn't like they went seven and three. And it was like, oh yeah, like we got a groove going right now. They were legit. 11 out of 12. It's like, yo, you guys are ass. Yeah. Like. I love the confidence. No, but that's it. That's exactly it. You know what I mean? Everybody's in win now mode. You know what I mean?

[02:27:11] Trying to do their impersonation of something that doesn't work. Because Raph talks about this all the time. How many of these teams that go out, make the big splashy move, you know, as far, especially if it's a trade. Which one of these teams besides say the Pistons maybe back in 04. And that wasn't even like a superstar. Rasheed Wallace, you know, is pretty good. But he wasn't like a Tim Duncan level dude that way, at least. You know what I mean?

[02:27:39] But that worked out for them. But like, I don't know. Like, what other teams. It doesn't work. That's a good point, Riz. Yeah. But like, who's the other teams that have made these splashy trades that it's paid off for? Well, when you. Kawhi for one year. The Celtics, the KG and Ray Allen deal.

[02:28:07] Because that was all GM driven. You know, it was like conversations between, you know, former teammates that made these deals. You know, the McHales and the Danny Ainge deals and stuff like that. So, that made sense. But these player, these player, player movement and the player empowerment movement that, you know, they've kind of thrown at the feet of LeBron as this is a reason. Once a guy starts telling his agent, I only want to go here. Oh. So. The trades are almost pointless.

[02:28:36] And like, they can't be impactful. Like, Giannis. Like, we go back to the Giannis trade. I think any other team would have given Milwaukee a better deal. But guys are just kind of picking their shots like they're being roofing calling home runs. So, we got Okori is now going to Detroit.

[02:29:03] Bennett starts to OKC and Kareem Lopez to the Grizzlies. If I got that right. Yeah, that's a good one, Rez. You know, Boston with Captain Drew and Porzingis. You know, but I still wouldn't say that, like, Captain Drew is, like, or Porzingis is that level of player. You know what I mean? Yeah. As far as, like. We're talking about the four superstar trade or just trades. I think there's all.

[02:29:32] I think all kinds of trades worked. I think the AD trade to get to LA worked. I just felt like it, they, it was, he was such a talent that the GMs didn't make it happen. Like, the front office didn't make that trade happen in LA. And they didn't know what to do with that level of success and talent. Because they just, I don't think they're good. I don't think they were good front office.

[02:30:00] Because you had, like, Kurt Rambis and his wife running, like, player operations. And then Jerry Bust's son was the other guy doing it. And then Jeannie was calling the shots. And then Rob Plinger's like. So they had a bunch of people who were just listening to LeBron. And LeBron was making everything shake. And then it was working. It was all good. And then when he started saying, like, I want this and I want that. They wanted to try to take the control back. And they just drove the car into the trees.

[02:30:30] It's like, LeBron was telling you who he wanted. And they were like, nah, we want this. We don't want to do that. We want to save this 2027 and 2031 pick. It's like, you could have had Kyrie. It could have been Kyrie, AD, and LeBron. But they didn't want to make that move. Because, you know, hubris. You think you're the reason that the team is successful. It was like, no. The reason the team is successful is because the guy who won 23 and 6 decided to come to your team because he wanted to follow Kobe. He wanted to play with Magic.

[02:30:59] Don't you love how, like, they show these draft highlights. And then they're like, yo, this guy has athleticism. That's one of his strengths. And then you see him make the slowest spin in recorded history. Playing against accountants in Mexico. It was like, yeah. You know what I mean? But maybe, I don't know if this means that Tobias Harris is on the way out. Because I know, I think he's a free agent, if I remember correctly.

[02:31:28] That might have been a good pickup for San Antonio, if you could make some money work. But the Sixers are on the clock. Yeah. Yeah. I'm staying young. I'm staying young from San Antonio. Sixers are on the clock. Followed by ATL. Followed by your world champions of what? The world. World champions of the world. Because the NBA, no matter what they say, is the best league in the world.

[02:31:57] So what does Philly need here? You know, because they got a little bit of everything. You know, like, you might need to... I think healthy Philly can be a top three team in the East. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Here you go. Everybody is right. There you go. There you go. Healthy Philly or Miami? Oh, healthy Philly. I don't think Miami is moving... Look, listen. I don't think Miami is going to be above fifth after November.

[02:32:27] November, December. Like, by Christmas, it's going to be like, all right, who does Miami need by the trade deadline? Because they won't have enough to fill it out. They won't have enough to fill out the roster. The young players that they end up getting, like I said, they're not dogs. You're not getting anybody that's going to give you the same kind of dog effort that you're going to get from a guy like, hell, Kelly Oubre. Kelly Oubre plays like a dog. You know, Jimmy Butler, these guys, like... Yeah, he's a pre-agent. You're not going to get any of those guys.

[02:32:57] And that's the kind of guys you need when you're under man. Because you're going to be outgunned. Because you don't have any shooters. Like, shooters. Like, multiple shooters. Like, Giannis is a scorer and a playmaker because he's just... He's worked on his game. He's worked on his craft. And then he's like, you know, hell on the hill. Like I said, I know we got to react. I know we got to react, but it's too early right now. I'm making... I'm stamping it now.

[02:33:27] Go for it. I'm stamping it now. You're going to say, I'm going to wait until we see the rest of the roster. Exactly. Where are you getting it from? Maybe you just don't bring one of those dudes back that we were talking about. You need vets. Like, you need vets. You need vets that go and play. All I know is, you know, say Giannis Antetokounmpo is the only superstar. NBA history that got traded and went to a team with a guy that scored 83 points in the NBA game. Yep.

[02:33:57] And combined, when they score 83 and the final score is 109-96, it's like, man, Miami really needs some help. So the Sixers... Like, that would be a move, but that's the kind of move they're going to have to make. But like I said, because... Both of them, Mike? Because they're going to be in... No, you can't let... You can't let them both... You don't have four people under contract.

[02:34:26] They got like six dudes under contract right now. Yeah, they got my guy Jovic still. But they don't have that many guys under contract. Yeah. Like, going into the next season. I think I saw something today. I think they have like six or seven guys under contract. And they got a... And they got a... What is it? They got to re-sign Simone Fettichio. You know what I mean? Like, you got to have him.

[02:34:54] That just sounds like a... So I think Philly... A seven seed. I think Philly should go Zuby here or... So Zuby Ojafor out of St. John's or Chris Senac out of Houston. Well, the camera is in somebody's face. Yeah, the camera was just looking at... Yeah, that's LeBaron Phylon. That's smiling right now. But you just got...

[02:35:22] You just got Edge come last year and you still got Maxie. You got... Well, maybe they learned watching McCain in the playoffs for OKC. Like, hey, maybe we can work in a guy who happens to be the same size as our other two guards in the second unit. You know, but I think... Because I know Andre Drummond is a free agent as well. So if Philly doesn't bring him back, then they're going to need something there. I think you can get one of these bigs.

[02:35:51] But they still got Adam Bona. They still got Bona as well. Yeah, you can get one of these bigs that are at the end of the bench from Boston that probably won't get any minutes. Like some tall Eastern African dude and just have him just come in and do what Drummond was doing. Talk to me about... Oh, they did get LeBaron Phylon. There you go. He definitely had zero poker face. He better not gamble. All right, so Atlanta's on the clock now. Talk to me about Isaiah Evans, Mike. What we thinking?

[02:36:20] No, LeBaron would not do that because his ass wants the money either way. Like, so he going somewhere for some money if that's what it comes down to. Nah, he's not coming back to Miami because I don't think he fucked with Pat Riley at all. I think him taking them cookies off the plane really settled it because I think he did it. At least he waited until he got the championship. Orlando wouldn't let Tim Duncan's wife get on the plane.

[02:36:49] You could have got Tim Duncan, won the championship, then kicked his wife off the plane. It's ego, man. Like, if you check your ego at the door, like, first rule of poker is leave emotions at the door. Yeah, that's the same rule for fact fights, right? Yeah, they negotiate and they negotiate with, you know, we talk about Jerry Jones. Like, dog, you don't have to witness negotiations with a player you drafted. Like, he's on your team. He wants to stay.

[02:37:19] Oh, this dude got the Roman Reigns team. Like, yeah, we're going to see, man. Like, you know, I like LeBaron Phylon as a prospect. He could end up, you know, being that guy that, you know, Darius Aikup is probably the best point guard in this draft, but LeBaron might end up second. You know what I mean? We'll see. I like an athletic point guard that gets down a hill, plays tough.

[02:37:46] I think Philly, like, I like healthy Philly. I just didn't believe that they. Yeah, but that's the problem. You got as good a chance to see a healthy Philly as I got to see a Bigfoot when I go to work tomorrow. Like, that's where we are with that. Yeah, but like I said, I think they're guys that come off the bench. I think they have, like, they have the type of guys that are used to coming off the bench.

[02:38:16] They're either instant offense or instant impact defensively, defensive rebounds, on-ball defenders. So anything you can add to that core players, like I said, I know it takes a lot. I know the low management costs teams money, but I don't know. Maybe you get in the pool this summer and help them, like, I mean, I don't know. I don't know exactly what you could do, but. Yeah.

[02:38:44] Yeah, so the Hawks are on the clock. So this could be a snack spot. You know, because Atlanta has to address the front court. You know, I know they were in talks for Anthony Davis at the trade deadline. Maybe that's still a thing if the Wizards don't max him like he wants, or if Atlanta doesn't get Jalen Brown like the rumors are saying. Go get you a 22 or 23-year-old and stop recycling these same guys where you got the report.

[02:39:14] Like I said, the healthy Philly thing is, like, those guys are already on a contract. I would not suggest if I'm a GM or I'm a president of player personnel on another team, like, you know, let's call Philly and see if any, if Embiid or Paul George is available. I wouldn't do that because, like, I understand the health is a problem. Don't tell RJ that. But being on my team is like, listen, I'm hoping that we can make this work. I understand that.

[02:39:40] So when guys, when teams are calling about AD, I'm like, I'm not understanding the why behind that. It's like you clearly see that he does have an injury history. He's a big guy. He's getting older. And he probably is like, listen. You know why? I'm already big. And offensively, that helps him. You know why? He's bigger because everybody else is small. Wimby's small. Lively, all these other defenders are small. So, like, it helps him to keep the weight on.

[02:40:07] But it also hinders him because, like, it gets him injured. So, like, I wouldn't even make that call. But if I'm the Wizards and he's here and we can make it work without maxing them out, then you make it work. But, yeah. But you know why? And Rez, I ain't shooting, you know what I'm saying, ish voice, you know what I'm saying. I don't want no smoke. But it's because people are saying, who can we get that's better than Anthony Davis? That's why.

[02:40:38] That's what's happening. Like, hey, let's get Anthony Davis. Well, can't we get, is he better than Anthony Davis? No. Well, then, no. Listen, just bring in the Moneyball DVD or pull it up on Netflix and say, hey, I can't get one guy that's hitting 44 on runs. But I can get two guys that can hit 18 but also steal bases. So, like, can we do that? We can play one guy first and one guy third.

[02:41:06] And we're not spending $40 million a year for one guy. We get both of these guys for $18 million. You know, like, you've got to be creative. I just don't understand, like, if I don't think these NBA GMs are that creative because we see these moves. We see the trades. We see how it worked out. Like, we're talking about this, like, the Giannis trade today. It's like, it's not making any sense. It makes sense to me. It makes sense to me. Like, you know what I'm saying?

[02:41:34] Like, obviously Milwaukee had – from the Milwaukee side, they had to trade them. They didn't control their picks until 2030. So, now they got a fresh set of picks. As far as Miami goes, you know, like, I think the general rule of thumb is if somebody of Giannis' ilk is available, you should go get them or you should try to do whatever you can to get them.

[02:42:00] Because even if you don't win the championship or any of those things, you have to try, which goes back to what me and Rez were talking about when we were doing – you know, when we were arguing about tanking. Like, you still have to try. Like, anything can happen. You know what I mean? So, from that standpoint – and then, like I said, you put him, Giannis, next to Bam. You got two guys that are perennial in the defensive player of the year race, you know, all defense and all that.

[02:42:29] You know, Giannis obviously is still playing at MVP levels when he's healthy. You know, Bam scored 83. And Miami's problem was Bam was the best player on the team. Now, that's not a thing. You move him into a more suitable slot. The problem is that you've just got to get the ball handled and you figured out. That's where the issue is. But, like I said, free agency hasn't even opened yet. So, like, we'll get there.

[02:42:56] Because just any – we saw even in the playoffs what San Antonio was able to do to OKC and SGA, what they were attempting to do to Jalen Brunson, which at certain points of these finals was effective. Yeah, remember we were keeping track of his shots? Yeah, the way they were blitzing them with these 6'5", 6'6 defenders, like Carter Bryant off the bench, the way he was attacking SGA. Granted, they were, like, extra attacks because they were, like, running through them and elbowing them.

[02:43:25] Like, the way San Antonio played against OKC, they didn't play – they didn't play the Knicks in St. Wade. Yeah, Carter Bryant gave SGA a welcome to the NFL. Welcome to the league. I think they were probably severely annoyed with all, like, the fail. Because SGA was – Well, yeah, it's like if you're going to get these calls, I'm going to earn them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[02:43:53] Like, you want to get fouls and go to the free throw line, I will gladly send you there with a bruise or two. Yeah, I would knock you into the photographers. But witness – And there's Zuby Ejiofor. Zuby Ejiofor off the clock. St. John's, you know, Biggie's player of the year. Top center in the country. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar winner, the GOAT, by the way. But, you know what I mean? But Zuby – Atlanta needed this, you know, because that first round, they were the only team that took two games off the Knicks in the playoffs.

[02:44:24] You know, now, granted, both of them were by one point. But they took two games off the Knicks. You know what I'm saying? The problem was – The Knicks lost three games in the playoffs, but a total was six points. Something like that. But Jock Landell was hurt for the playoffs, and Atlanta didn't really have anybody by six-nine that they were sending out there to deal with Cat. And, you know, that was what – actually, you know what? The Knicks are on the clock now.

[02:44:53] But that's what made the Knicks – what made Mike Brown show the kind of coach that he could be because they didn't do the same things from series to series. Like, it wasn't like, this is the way we play. And they switched it up depending on the opponent. They were killing people with the same action. I saw a breakdown of it. I don't know if me and you sent it with Chris and that group.

[02:45:19] I remember I was watching it, and it was like one series, Josh Hart would set the screen, and then Brunson would just roll off of it, and then he would shoot the jumper. And then the next series, Josh Hart would slip the screen, and he would hit him with the bounce pass for the layup. Then the next series, they would bring OG involved, and then OG would slip it, and then Josh Hart would pop out. It just was like – it was the same action.

[02:45:49] So if you're watching the film, you're like, oh, here comes that play where Cat sets the screen on the baseline. But really, it was a slip, and Cat was jumping out and getting open looks. So, yeah, it was masterful what they were doing as a team. But this is here when we talked about Co-A-P. I think that would be a good pick here. Yeah, we did talk about that the other day. Yeah, Co-A-P. Just a big body, a strong body.

[02:46:17] Well, I know that – and I also know that Shamit – I know we've been talking about him all night, but Jordan Clarkson's a free agent as well. So, you know, maybe this could be a spot for a Isaiah Evans, you know. It says reported trade, but the Knicks are doing some – I think the Knicks are doing some kind of how do we keep this same team together and not, you know, cost us any money.

[02:46:47] Well, yeah, at the parade, Dolan was like, hey, like the way I interpreted it was we got the ring. Like, don't get too comfortable. Yeah. Like, not necessarily like we're going to tear it down, but, you know. Yeah, but the thing about the Knicks and the Rangers, who Dolan owns both of them, they're like – like the teams are trading on the stock market. Oh, so the Lakers moved up a spot.

[02:47:15] So the value of the team changes his net worth drastically, especially now. So I'm pretty sure he's willing to move something and try to hide it in capital gains tax or some other kind of billionaire, how I keep my money away from the government and keep it away from the NBA and keep my team whole so I can do this all again next year. Spike Lee with the trophy. Yeah, so we got the Lakers on the clock now. You know what I mean?

[02:47:44] With the Knicks following them, they traded the pick. So we're going to see. You're going to see. You know, but, yeah, I like the Lakers here to get, you know, another big man, you know, maybe Senac here because I don't imagine they could, but I don't imagine they'd bring DeAndre Ayton back. Not the way he was pissing everybody off. You know what I mean? Just the way he wouldn't rebound.

[02:48:13] Like, just rebound. Like, it's just, to me, getting the ball, like, as a basketball player, you're on the floor. Whatever you could do to get the ball for your team just seems like a win. It seems like an easy win. Jose Alvarado had eight points in game four, a couple of assists, and in game five, he had one rebound. But, like, everybody remembers the eight points he had in game four because he did whatever he needed to do, when his moment was called.

[02:48:42] So, I remember him boxing out Wimby by trying to lift his leg. Yeah, I'm glad they didn't give him a flagrant on that. I respect the rest for keeping it simple. But, yeah, so it's just like DeAndre Ayton, like, you're out there, man. Just get the rebound. Start the break. Run the floor. Get the lob dunk. But it's like you're letting everybody bully you down there because you're not getting plays called for you. Like, bro, you play with Luka and LeBron. They're not calling a set for you. Yeah.

[02:49:10] Just get it off the rim. Like, Shaq, like Kobe should tell Shaq, you'll get it off the rim. Yeah. So, they keep showing Cameron Carr. You know, Jay Billis has him as the best player available. So, when I look at Cameron Carr, I think I see a little Devin Vassell. You know, maybe a little quicker, but just that type of player. So, let's see who we got here. There he is.

[02:49:40] Everyone's hugging like they don't want to mess up their makeup. Yeah. Rick Carr, you know. And this was probably the closer to the original range that people thought he was going to go in prior to the combine. Yeah. But then, but with that combine performance, you know, I think people were like, hey, could he go 15 through 20? You know, so, mostly, I think the Lakers got a good player. You know what I mean?

[02:50:10] Now, of course. You said the Lakers or the Lakers are the – because it said the Lakers are the – I thought that – yeah, I thought the Lakers traded with the Knicks. I don't know. He is all Knicks background. Because they had the – well, you know, that's what they always do. That's like they be wearing the hats and then they got to go change it. Yeah. Like, yeah, traded to L.A. Lakers on my ESP – on my tracker. But this was one of the things that we always talk about.

[02:50:40] Like, why is the NBA in 2026 and they still have the dude walk up to the state? Remember you were talking about like, yeah, all it takes is a few seconds to print another hat or, you know, like – Yeah, just bring out another hat and then change the graphic. Yeah. You know what I mean? But, yeah, I think that's a good pickup. You know what I mean? Like, I think that he provides a lot of elements that they need. You know what I mean? You know, good defender, explosive.

[02:51:10] You know, the kind of guy that if you need to sit and look out for a few minutes. That's what I was just about to say. That's what I was just about to say. You won't see what's going on. LeBron don't like young guys. LeBron don't like young guys. That's exactly what I was about to say. And there were rumors that came out earlier this week saying that Kevin Love might be liquor bound. I don't know if that was just because of the whole 2016 championship team reunion. You know what I'm saying? But Kyrie said, relax. He's going to get with those guys in a few days.

[02:51:40] So Kyrie to the Lakers? I don't know. Oh, that's his dad. I didn't know that. So, okay. Yeah. Well, then, you know, now we got the mix on the clock for real this time. So we'll see. Yeah, Kevin Love is still in the NBA. He was a member of the Utah Jazz. That's probably why you didn't know that. Yeah. They might have won out.

[02:52:09] No TV time for the team from the watch out. Yeah. Like, he got – because he was on the Heat the previous year. And then he played 37 games for Utah this year. You know, so we'll see. You know, he's still shooting 37% from three. You know, saying he ain't going to guard no damn body.

[02:52:36] Or, like, you know, it's not like he's a big body that's going to take up space or something. So that would just be one of those Channing Frye, you know what I'm saying, throw a lifeline to Richard Jefferson moments. Let me get my guy another contract. I just saw the Lakers war room. Everybody was in black Laker polos except for J.J. Redick. He was just in a gray hoodie. Yeah, I'm watching it right now. Yeah. Just not a team player. Oh, yeah. You don't like that shit, huh?

[02:53:06] No. No. I understand confidence, and I understand being elite at what you do. But at some point, you have to also be a real genuine team player. And I just feel like he operates as if he's above the grading scale of everybody else. He's like, yo, you have done nothing. You haven't – like, what was his coaching job? DeAndre Aiden still doesn't rebound.

[02:53:36] None of these guys coming off the bench know what they're doing. If it wasn't for Luka averaging 40, 12, and 15, like, you guys would be – it would be a shit show. So, yeah. Give me Mike Brown all day and twice on Sunday. You know what I mean? Yeah, so we're down to the final six picks of the first round of the NBA draft. You know, draft round two is tomorrow. We're going to see who ends up – Okay, we have a second round all day.

[02:54:06] That just seems silly to me. No, we're going to see who ends up in that coveted Bronny James Aaron Wiggins position at number 55. Somebody that we won't talk about.

[02:54:49] Yep. Boston. So let's see what Boston does after not getting Giannis Antetokounmpo. Are they showing him? See, I don't know. I don't like what they do. Brother, another one that's available. Well, yeah, I think Milwaukee let him go, Thanasis go today, so he'll probably be Miami bound soon. But I hate when they keep showing these pictures because the last couple times they've been showing –

[02:55:18] or not pictures, but the last couple picks they've been showing these guys and that's the guy that gets picked. So, like, I don't want you to keep flashing on the guy that's about to get picked. Yeah, the whole point is for us to just be as surprised as the audience. But it's like, oh, here we go. This guy just took a phone call and put the camera right in his face here. Don't look direct like the camera. Keep a straight face. Yeah. So I don't know. Like, the Knicks are going to have an interest somewhere.

[02:55:47] American – one American-born white player on the first round so far. The kid from Iowa. Yeah. And then a couple of German guys, a Mexican guy, Dominican guy, and a bunch of light-skinned dudes. A couple of Africans. It's like every year it's the same thing. It's the same thing. Yes. We are the world. We are the children.

[02:56:18] All right. See you. That's what we are right now. Here we go. Kane Steinbach, he's German. Yeah, he's German. Yeah. All right. Let's see. Here we go. Lakers. I need to do it. Really? If you know the trade is in, just trade the damn bracket. Oh, Sergio DeLarrea from Spain. Now we got a Spaniard, Mr. Logical. Going to the Knicks, so he ain't coming.

[02:56:48] So I know Kevin O'Connor has been real high on him. Like, he's been one of his sleepers. I haven't seen any film on him, so I can't say either way. But Denver's on the clock now. I think he's got deceiving. And, like, I watched the Luka film, like, not watch, but, like, when I saw the Luka film when he got drafted out of Spain, it was like, oh. He felt like, yo, he got it. This guy's moving differently.

[02:57:15] Like, he's creating, like, four or five feet of space. And the NBA probably is, like, closer to two feet, but that's still substantial. He was moving different. The rest of these guys are playing, like, what's the boy named Sar? Alex Sar? Yeah, the guy from Chicago was, like, Matzis Bazoulas. Matzis Bazoulas, yeah. Yeah. He said, yo, Alex don't want none of me. He said it, like, in a pre-draft interview. He's like, Alex don't want none of me. He knows it.

[02:57:45] And, like, I was watching his highlights. He just looked like he was just running down the lane dunking. It's like. How did you feel when you saw those Ricky Rubio videos? Ricky Rubio was so young, but he was diming people up. Like, that travels. A good bounce pass, a good no-look pass on a pick and roll or a good lob pass, that travels. That's you seeing the floor.

[02:58:10] But, like I said, the look of Tate was like, all right, this guy is definitely different if it makes sense. I just don't know how. I mean, I don't know how difficult it is to get back down to whatever that playing weight was he was playing there. I imagine it's probably pretty difficult because he's a teenager. Like, yo, can you get somewhere to, like, 220? Can you get to 225 maybe? Because I think the way you were moving at whatever, like, his first couple years in the league and that the bubble, like, the bubble against the Clippers.

[02:58:39] Like, you can get back to that. I think the sky's the limit. But if you're going to try to be LeBron-sized, like, nah, you out here, you're going to have to play more like Jay LeBronson. Just slow it down. Get your bumps. Get your little midi on because, like, you got to slow it down all the way because you can't play that big and try to do what he was doing in Spain and in the NBA right now. Yeah. Yeah. So I had Denver taking Isaiah Evans right here.

[02:59:09] I think that you're letting Tim Hardaway walk. You know, you're probably letting Bruce Brown go again. And, you know, I know for sure that they're going to try to do everything they can to sign Peyton Watson, even though he was injured during the playoff run this year. It sounds like they really like him a lot. But then, you know, you got Cam Johnson. What are you doing with him? You know, Christian Brown, you know, like, has moments.

[02:59:37] But he never really has – outside of the NBA finals. He played well in the NBA finals. You know, but Christian Brown just doesn't have that – this guy is a part of our foundation. He's going to be – unless you can turn him into, like, a Caruso kind of guy. You know what I mean? But, like, he's not – but Denver needs more dynamics, you know, because – His impact is minimal because he doesn't do one thing special.

[03:00:05] I just thought he was really good at transition points. He was always in the league in, like, transition points because he gets out on these runs. But – Well, like, you got a guy like – well, you got a guy like Jokic that's always looking to pass the ball, you know, set up his teammates and everything. You have to get him somebody that he can set up. You know what I mean? Like, so that's where, like, having Christian Brown in your starting lineup comes back to bite you because that's all you're relying on from him is that transition.

[03:00:36] Aaron Gordon's been hurt, you know. So, and – so I think that's what they need right now. Yeah, I don't know how they're going to do this second round all – like, all night draft. But – I imagine the clock has to be shorter, right? Two minutes, right? Yeah, like maybe three. Like, yeah. Two and a half, maybe.

[03:01:06] Yeah, because I think – because I think for the second round, like – like, the first round, I think, for the most part, you're still kind of reacting. Like, hey, I wanted LeBaron Phylon. But they took him. So now I got to try to figure out who was number two on my board. Is he available? In the second round, I think you just kind of know who you get. Yeah, you get the guy. You sign them two-way deals or you, you know, put them on G League contracts

[03:01:33] and maybe they turn in a, you know, something that a special player can use down the road. Denver, once again, like, they're another team that didn't play their young guys. They played the hell out of Jokic to the point where when he came up the floor, no one else had any rhythm and they had to put him back in the game. And they went and got a veteran center to keep behind him. You know, they had Jonas Valachunas behind them.

[03:02:01] So, you know, like, who's a pretty good player? I mean, obviously he doesn't bring – You just got to have another guy on the floor that can bring, you know, that can run you a second. And I think they have – did they have Tyce Jones? They had him at a point, I think. They had him at a point. He ended up in Minnesota, I want to say, or Orlando. I want to say Orlando. He ended up in Orlando. Yeah, ended up somewhere else. But, again, you got to bring in a guy that's going to supplement what Jokic can do.

[03:02:30] So you got to bring in a big that can do the rebounding part. You got to bring in another guy that can – you know, Jordan Clarkson kind of guy. Yeah, they got Pickett. Yeah, they got Pickett. They have Julian Straubler, who I liked coming out of college. But apparently they don't like him, you know. But it goes back to what you were saying about Dalton Canette. You know, these guys aren't going to get it if they're not playing. Like, you know what I mean?

[03:02:58] You can get out of practice and re-repping the rep, repping the rep. It's like sometimes you got to get these guys in a real competitive action. And Julian Straubler has a 19-point playoff game, you know, saying on his jacket. So, like, I don't even know, like, why. You know what I mean? And that might be the whole maybe there's a defense deficiency there or, you know. But, like, that's what coaching is. Yeah, that's what coaching is for. Like, you don't get – this isn't peanut butter and jelly wrapped in –

[03:03:27] Hey, what Mike Tomlin told him? You got to – I run the coaching. You run from coaching. Like, give me the guy that can't catch. Yeah, give me the guy that can't block. I'm going to teach him how to put his hands. Give me the guy that steps wrong. I'm going to tell him how to – that's what you have to do. Like, you're getting raw products. You're getting talent. Yeah. Yeah, you're getting talent that needs, you know, some fine-tuning.

[03:03:57] There's nothing wrong with that. I just feel like a lot of these coaches just bail on that, mainly because I think the money surrounding the value of the teams, that little 20 million I got to pay you for the rest of your contract is nothing. I can make that money in a day selling tickets for this arena. So, I can make up the 20 million I owe you, I can make up in a couple of home games. Oh, I forgot. And then there's still out there. And then there's still out there. And then there's still out there.

[03:04:27] Yeah, it looks like Denver got Terrace Reed, you know, out of UConn. So, another big body, you know, said that can come back these behemoths because now, you know, OKC, when they got to die Mara to put with Hartenstein and Holmgren, and now you got the Spurs. So, getting – So, you run out of J. Will, SGA, J. Will, Chet, Mara, and Hartenstein?

[03:04:57] No. You line up a death? Not the starting lineup, but like just, you know what, let's protect the paint. Yeah, I mean, at some point, yeah. Because I think you leave Jarrett McCain in that six-man role, that kind of microwave guy. You know, and like I said, they did get Bennett Sturtz. You know, not that he's going to start per se, but he could get a lot of minutes at that point if you don't bring A.J. Mitchell back.

[03:05:28] You know, and you still got to find time for Nikola Topic now that he's healthy. You know what I mean? So, like, you know, you get that long jam there. So, I think if you're OKC, because I think Topic is pretty tall, right? I believe he's one of those 6'11 guys. No, I don't think that's tall. I thought he's one of those Serbian, like, stretch guys. 6'6". Oh, OK.

[03:05:56] Well, they seem to have a pretty decent G League program, considering their head coach was their G League head coach down there with Alex Caruso. So, I imagine their version of their farm system can use some of this talent and develop it. Because if Chet plays with a little tenacity, it's not even a lot. It's a little tenacity in Game 7, I think they win. Well, Chet is like the new Harrison Barnes, right? It's like, if you just play a little average, like, you know what I mean?

[03:06:25] Like, you don't got to be good. You don't have to be exceptional. Just don't be a fuck-up. You know what I'm saying? But I think he was playing well throughout the series. It's just... Well, he had defensive moments. Yeah, it's just the way he didn't, like... I think not shooting the ball when you're a guy that, first of all, you start. Oh, OK. And you get the ball a lot.

[03:06:54] So, it's like, you should have shot more shots. So, Terrace Reed is going to San Antonio. And then the Nuggets are getting number 35 and two second-round picks. So, the Spurs got Quintons and Terrace Reed. They must have been watching the pod. I told you, boy, they're ready for war. You got to put Cornette and Plumlee in the game. Like, you know what? We got you.

[03:07:24] We're going to go get two young versions of the same player. Like, listen, stand out here and defend when these guards come down. And now we got the Celtics on the clock. Four picks left in the first round. You know, the Celtics can go a lot of different ways with this. You know, they can go point guard. They can get another big man. You know, because obviously, once Embiid came back from his injury,

[03:07:54] their chapter was done. You know, they didn't have anybody that can guard. They had Jalen Brown on them at times. You know, because Cato was too small. Vucicic was too slow. So, like, it'll be interesting. I think they went away from the Vucicic rotation too soon. I felt like just let him battle. Like, let Embiid.

[03:08:22] I'd rather Embiid have to battle with Big and at least exhaust himself versus hoping I can just get a guy to defend his jump shot. I was like, listen, if he's going to hit that jumper, Embiid is a 50-point, but he's 50 points walking if he gets on. So, he is a superstar in this league. Make it tough on him. You know, make him have to battle with Vucicic, who's like, you know, 6'11", 7'0".

[03:08:50] You know, like, make him work for his points. But Vucicic isn't capable of that. Just bang. Like, listen, man, you got six fouls. Just go down there, hit him, knock him down a couple times, make him have to get that 285-pound frame up off the ground. You know, you know he's going to flail. So, if he flails, hit him. Like, if he does a pump fake, don't try to avoid him. Just boop. Just put your body weight on him. Knock him down.

[03:09:19] Make him keep getting himself back up. And eventually, he's going to need some kind of break. I mean, it's just like, it's not dirty play. It's like, don't make it easy on him. Yeah. It's not like he's Shaq. Like, let's keep it real. It's not like he's down there like he's prime Shaquille O'Neal. So, we got Boston, Minnesota, Cleveland, and Dallas to close out the first round. Chris Sennacher's getting all the camera. Oh, actually, my bad. Let me rephrase.

[03:09:48] Minnesota is not going to be on the clock because that pick was a part of the Julius Randle trade. So, Brooklyn will be making that pick at 28. So, let's see what Brooklyn does this time around. You know, I think I like the Mikel Brown pick. All right. So, I got the Boston's pick is in. We're waiting on it right now. Yeah. You know, and like I said, they could go a bunch of different ways.

[03:10:16] Oh, they took Sennacher because they put the damn camera on him. Yep. You know what I'm saying? There you go. They tried to throw it off by putting it on Isaiah Evans. Yeah. Yeah. See, this is about right. He's a project. Sharp suit, young man. I like it. I like it. I can already tell. He's a project. You know, he's got – but he does have a 42-and-a-half-inch vertical at 6'11". You know what I mean?

[03:10:46] Like, this is the part of the draft where you get a player like this that gets to a team like Boston, and then in three years you go, only Boston – yeah, only Boston saw that. Or, you know, when 2-5 been telling them the whole time. You know, I think he's going to be good. Like, not all-star or anything like that. But, you know what I'm saying?

[03:11:15] Like, he'll be a 16-and-11 kind of guy, 16-and-9 with 2-and-a-half blocks or so. 2-and-a-half, that's a lot. Yeah. I mean, when you can jump – Wait, 6'11", 230. Well, you can jump 42-and-a-half. You know what I'm saying? You get some blocks. Let's see.

[03:11:40] That's a crazy visual for someone that tall to be able to jump like that. Yeah, they're showing him exactly 6'11", 240. Okay. Yeah, so here's some highlights of him. Like I said, I like him a lot. You know what I mean? It's going to – it might take a – oh, there's a block on the first play, right? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Offense upside.

[03:12:09] Yeah, like he'll step out. You know what I mean? So that's what I'm saying. He's a guy that he seemed to want. Yeah. Yeah. Like he's a guy that'll make the Sixers come out there. You know what I mean? Like, what you going to do with me? You know what I'm saying? Or like – I like it, man. Like I said, I think that certain players just end up in certain situations because – because as a project, you know, it's like, well, who do I meet?

[03:12:39] You want to go to a team that, you know, turns out good products. Yeah. Like a lot of A-plus production out of that. Like you don't want to be a project and go to the Lakers right now. You don't want to be a project and go to Portland. You don't want to be a project and go to Memphis. You want to be Philly. I think Philly gives you a shot, I think. Even Miami to some degree, I think they give you a shot. OKC is another one of those places where I think you'll –

[03:13:04] you could really develop and, you know, Denver doesn't play young guys. Utah doesn't seem to really get over the hump and they just kind of keep trading players and kind of getting the same. So I think they get in the way and they stifle the development of a lot of their young players. Yeah. I keep forgetting that V-SAR is still out here. That might be an interesting pick for Cleveland. You know, maybe Dallas, depending on what they do with Gaffert.

[03:13:35] But Brooklyn's on the clock right now. You know, I don't know if you – because I think they have enough point guards at the very least. You know what I mean? So maybe now you brought in – Maybe Isaiah Evans here. Maybe. Maybe a center. Maybe a center. I'm mad that they're keeping Julius Randle, though. That's what I was thinking, too. And, you know, you got – they traded Claxton. So, you know what I'm saying?

[03:14:03] I think a big man might be in order here. So V-SAR could be a good pick here, too. You know, and, you know, like that would be a good pick. That might be one of their best picks in the last couple of years. Huh? Yeah. Yeah, I was like, that would be the pick. Yeah. Like, yeah. Because, like, Brooklyn – I'm a big purport of teams going – go all the way young. 22, 23, 24-year-olds. Let them out there.

[03:14:32] Let them figure it out. Where's Cam Thomas at? Come to think of, you know, young guys. Nowhere. Nowhere. He'll probably end up in Miami. They waived him, and then he went to Milwaukee, and then they cut him after a few games. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, that could be if he had a good relationship with Giannis. Giannis, yeah. If Giannis rocks with him, he's like, yeah, go get him. I like him.

[03:15:00] But for some reason, people just didn't – I don't know. He was offered, like, a pretty good deal, like a three-year, 45 million or something along those lines. So it's like, how are you willing to give him 45 million one year that you're trading him halfway after he rejected it? So it's like – I know that he was – he felt like it was a slap in the face, you know, that they took so long to sign him. Not that – It was 45 million dollars. You know what I mean?

[03:15:26] Just take the three-year, 45 million, play for it, get you 18 million. I mean, that's all right. He's still getting either way, I guess. No, he didn't sign it. Oh, he didn't sign it. He didn't sign it, yeah. Oh, no, he was on the one-year – yeah. Yeah, Brooklyn – I think Brooklyn offered him three years, 45, or maybe 55. Yeah, I think it was 45, yeah. And then – yeah, so, like, I don't know, man. Like, he's another one of those guys that is a black hole, you know,

[03:15:55] said not efficient and he doesn't bring any defense. And he's not – he doesn't have that 3 and D size. So, you know, there's just – I don't know. He had a run a couple years ago. He was like, yeah, 40. He had like a Colby line run. Yeah, that's when John Vaughn was the coach. And then they stopped putting him in the game. Yeah, but they were – That's weird, man. But it was wild. Other than Bill Belichick, if you – if you're a running back

[03:16:23] and you got 12 touches one game and you went for 88 yards and a touchdown and then they give you the next week, you get 16 touches and they got 116 yards and another touchdown. I think the third week you might get 20 touches. Yeah. Like, this guy seems effective. But in the NBA, it's like, nah. Well, it was crazy, too, because when they benched him, it was still while he was still doing that. So, it wasn't like – He was still hot. Yeah, yeah. So, it wasn't like he started slumping and it was a fluke.

[03:16:53] Like, he was still in the midst of scoring 35. Yeah, he was 35, 35, 40, and it was like, all right, cool. You're chilling. He's like, what? Like, if anything, you could have traded him then. That's when people would have won him. But once again, you got to be managed properly. You got to be managed properly as a team to understand, like, these are the moments where we can make things happen. Yeah. But if you don't have that, that's what you end up with. Yeah. Yeah.

[03:17:24] The pick is in, even though it's going to Brooklyn, like, just change the graphic. That's what I'm saying. Like, you know what I'm saying? We're still behind like this. Like, this trade happened hours ago. All right, let's see who we got here. The Brooklyn Nets, even though it says Minnesota on the screen. Joshua Jefferson. I don't like this pick at all.

[03:17:56] I don't like this pick at all. Like, you know, like a lot of the people that do this for a living, you know, like the scouting and all that, they compare him to Kyle Anderson. Yeah. He is, I mean, at number 28, theoretically, you know,

[03:18:23] you're not looking for a franchise changer. You know what I mean? But Brooklyn is a team that just needs a little bit of everything. And I think V-SAR. You got to unbutton that bottom button play. You got to unbutton the bottom button. You know, I think V-SAR, you know, would have been a good pick here, especially after trading Claxon. I don't know. I'm just dumbfounded right now, you know.

[03:18:53] Iowa State, 6'7 and 3 quarters, 246. Yeah, he's not. The Kyle Anderson. The Kyle Anderson comp. The slow-mo. Slow, under control. Kind of looks like him. Yep. I like it. I don't know what you want him to do. That right there?

[03:19:22] I don't know if you want him to defend at 6'7 when you got rid of, you know, Claxon, what, 6'10, 6'11? Like, I don't know how. Like, I don't know if it's an apples for apples swap. Unless, like I said, let's say plan on keeping Julius Randle. But Brooklyn just, they've just been in such a bad spot. Like, Brooklyn deserved to have a number one pick just to give them an easy opportunity. I just don't feel like, I just don't feel like they have any direction. Like, I think they're just doing things.

[03:19:52] It's like, hey, tonight's the draft. We got to get somebody. We got to get some guys that used to be in college that want to play basketball and NBA. Yeah. Like, hey, I like his shoulders. Like, you know what I mean? Like, go get him. My granddaddy loves to say 6'7. So, like, let's get this guy because he's 6'7. Yeah.

[03:20:15] It does seem like they are, I don't know, they have zero star power. Yeah. And probably one of the most popular boroughs. Like, everyone knows, you know, like, if you think about, like. They'll say Kings County, bro. When they have, like, you know, like, Old Navy will have a shirt or Coles will have a shirt. It says Brooklyn. Like, you have, like, random shirts that say, like, New York and a random hat that say New York.

[03:20:44] Or other than that, it says Brooklyn. Like, there's no, like, shirts that don't say the Bronx and stuff like that. Queens. Yeah. Queens. Like, and they're all, you know, obviously they're all, like, the most popular boroughs. But, like, they just have, like, random things that just say Brooklyn. It's a very popular borough. Well, then they went black and white with the uniform, too. Like, they're not. And they kept it the same way. Like, there's, I don't know.

[03:21:08] It's just not a lot of, for a city that has a level of charisma that New York has, the Brooklyn Nets operate a lot like a very plain Jane, ordinary Midwest team. I mean, hell, they got the Spurs colors. Like, there's no gray. There's no alternate. It's, like, it's just, bleh. I don't know. It just feels, it just feels like. Hey, I did, like, the Biggie Coogee jerseys.

[03:21:39] Which is. But you gotta, you gotta buy into that. Like, you gotta, like, I mean, granted, you can't do much with Bad Boy right now with their founder out here in Fort Dix. But just when those opportunities are there, like, they just, they just didn't. They just didn't capitalize on the fact that, like, yo, you're in Brooklyn. Like, Cat even said it. He was like, yo, dudes in Brooklyn celebrating the Knicks. They got their own team. They got their own team. Yeah, that's grand coming from a Jersey guy.

[03:22:09] You know what I mean? But here comes the Cavs. You know, like, I don't know. What you think the Cavs could do? Find somebody to replace James Harden. Go ahead and let him slide. I don't think they're going to bring him back. Like you said, who the best available? You kept saying Vassar? Yeah. Armory Vassar.

[03:22:39] So, Richie Saunders has been getting a lot of love out of BYU. But he's injured. You know, I think he had Achilles. So, he's not going to be available. So, maybe if you're a team like Cleveland, you could draft a guy like that. You know what I mean? Because you're not necessarily looking for immediate help. I got to step in right now. Yeah. Yeah. So, maybe you could just get him in the building, rehab. You know what I mean?

[03:23:07] Make a free agent move or two to, like, shore something up. You know? But they got to make decisions about their front court. You know? Are they going to come back with Mobley and Allen both? You know what I mean? I still like that combination because I think they provide you the same size. Like, they're both big so that you can get rebounding. But that's effort. I like the rent protection.

[03:23:36] I like the offensive versatility of Evan Mobley. Oh! We got to trade. The Sacramento Kings are back on the clock. Oh, who does Sacramento like? So, you know, they still got some bonus. We talked about them potentially coming off of DeRozan.

[03:24:05] They drafted Acuff earlier. You know, they let Keon Ellis go to Cleveland. Or they traded Keon Ellis to Cleveland. Is Trey Young going to give up number three? I doubt it. Trey Young don't seem like that type. That means number one pick. He's got $212 million.

[03:24:32] I think you can make a concession for the number one pick. All right, here we go. Let's see who the Kings are getting. Cleveland Cavaliers trade with Sacramento Kings. Alex Carabin. How about that? How about that?

[03:25:04] The UConn hero. He got his number retired, right? I'm not sure, but he's got two national titles. I think they're hung in a rafter. They're hung in a rafters. Yeah, he was the guy. They pretty much got the same guy they have on their team already that couldn't hit a shot against the Knicks. The Kings? Oh, the Kings. No, this is the Kings.

[03:25:32] See, the Cleveland thing threw me off because I was like, you already got two guys like that. Oh, Struzan. Yeah, Struzan. Merrill. Merrill, yeah. Yeah, Sam Merrill. So, yeah. So, we're down to the final pick. The Dallas Mavericks are on the clock. We got the champs starting things off tomorrow. They'll probably trade that pick, I'm imagining.

[03:25:59] But, yeah, Dallas closing out the first round here. You know, like, what do they do? You know what I mean? Like, you got Kyrie coming back from injury. I think they're probably looking for somebody that they can play right now. Oh, they ready to go home. The pick is in already. They ready to go. Oh, yeah. All these people got to get out. This draft is in Brooklyn, too.

[03:26:25] So, it's just nothing for the Brooklyn fans to be, like, happy about. I'm probably going to check out a game in Brooklyn. Maybe I'll make a weekend of it. Well, yeah, you'd probably get in for, like, $5. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'd probably – that's definitely going to be on VetTix. Shout out to VetTix. Yeah, I remember – I could probably say courtside with VetTix at a Brooklyn game. Yeah, I remember I got $8 tickets to the Wizards

[03:26:54] and playing against the Bucs. It was Giannis year two, so he was still skinny. Yeah. But I paid $8, and I was, like, five rows behind the basket. I think the closest I've sat, I got, like, some company tickets when I was in Utah because I was – I got called.

[03:27:22] They called and was, like, hey, if you can get here, like, right now, we have box seats. And I was, like, cool. So, I got on the road, and then by the time I was, like, getting on the road, they called me, like, hey, sorry, the guy we thought that wasn't going to show up showed up. So, I had to turn around, go back home, tail to my leg, and then they reached out to me, like, the following week.

[03:27:51] Like, hey, I got a couple more tickets. And it was, like, row 12 behind the backboard. You know, so I think it was young Steph Curry, so Jazz versus Golden State. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so that was a cool game. It goes by so quick when you're in an arena. When you watch on TV, that commercial break. Hey, Mr. Logical's guy. My guy. There we go. Like, a young guy can get in there and play right now.

[03:28:18] Use your athleticism, use your size, your versatility. Yeah. I think he's basically the P.J. Washington replacement. You know, that's the way that I do that. And you get, I guess, that enforcer. You get the enforcer. And, like I say, you just got a coach from college. He's probably going to be more likely to play young guys. I think this could be a nice little setup for the, yeah, he plays very physical.

[03:28:49] You got to watch who he hits, though. Because, you know, you can't hit number one from San Antonio. You can't hit number two from OKC. Who else can you not touch? Seven. Yeah, type in Brunson. Nah, Brunson, you can hit. Because Brunson will hit you. Brunson hit. When he hit Wimby in his liver with that elbow, I was like, OK.

[03:29:16] But, yeah, it's a few players he's not going to be able to touch. How much? Last question before we get out of here. Yeah. How much? How much? What's the word? Discretion. Do you think they gave Dusty May on the picks tonight? Um, I think he probably had a lot of input.

[03:29:43] Because we talk about this with NBAs. They can't see all of these guys. He's played against them. He's probably recruited them. He's probably recruited guys they played against. Yeah, he played against Arizona in the Final Four. Yeah, so I think he saw it up close. Yeah, so he saw it up close. Yeah, he was like, get my guy, get my guy from Michigan.

[03:30:08] Because then when, uh, the, when, uh, Day got drafted, he, like, he was applauding. I don't know if he was happy that he got drafted or he was like, damn, we could have probably jumped up to this and got him too. But, uh, yes, I think he probably has a lot of insight. He's like, listen, I've seen this guy. Like, you got the scouting report right here. Like, I was sitting courtside. I saw the footwork. I saw how he was able to switch. I saw who, I saw the versatility. I saw the tenacity.

[03:30:37] I saw, you know, how he interacted with his teammates. Whatever it is, he's like, I saw it from the court level in a big time moment. So, yeah, I think he probably had a lot of, a lot of opportunity to voice his opinion and have it heard. Yeah, so, um, you know, I like, I like Sacramento getting A cuff. You know, they, they held out for their guy. I don't mind Brooklyn taking, uh, Mike L. Brown. First four was chalk.

[03:31:07] You know, um, I don't know. So, you know, we'll see how this pans out. You know, I like San Antonio getting the two, uh, behemoths, if you will, to kind of put around Wimby and just, you know, be that enforcer. You know, like they can do the Biambo and Plumlee thing while actually contributing at the same time. You know, uh, so we'll see, man.

[03:31:37] You know, Cameron Carr's a good pickup from whenever LeBron decides to leave. How is Desmond Bain the chief basketball officer for TCU? Ain't that crazy? Ain't that crazy? How's that a thing? How's that a thing? All right. We'll see. You need to be focused on that jump shot there, T-Rex. Oh, no. He got that down.

[03:32:05] So, he got that down. So, hopefully we can get some rookie impacts. Like I said, a lot of these guys, you, you, you better get some dog in you so you can survive in this NBA because there's still a lot of guys out here who are knocking you out of bounds. A lot of, it's a lot of Steph Castles. A lot of Bissells. It's a lot of, you know, Josh Hartz, Mitchell Robinson, you scrappy guys, you know, ants going to try to dunk on you.

[03:32:32] It's, it's coaches out there that might try to ruin your confidence to see if you can bounce back. It's, it's, it's a tough, congratulations, everybody that got drafted. It sucks that some of y'all are wearing hats of the team, you're not going to your, your pictures, but. That's funny. Well, you know, congratulations to everybody. I hope it works out, you know, Brooklyn. Yeah. I'm going to come check y'all out, you know, because y'all tickets are going to be definitely cheaper than the Knicks tickets. Oh, yeah.

[03:33:01] Like, I mean, yeah. I mean, that's every year though. Like, no matter what. $500 standing room only tickets. Yeah. But on that note, y'all, he is the one and only world famous, world renowned, cool, calm and collected. Born in Texas, raised in VA, representing new jerukes. He don't even want the Nets back. You know what I'm saying? He goes by the name. Enjoy. You know what I'm saying? And don't bring feelings to a pack fight.

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