CHANGE OF COMMAND

[00:00:08] Yes, you are now listening to the sound of Sports Reports As Ordered. And it is championship weekend coming up. The 3P is still alive, unfortunately. But we got a new beast in the east. We got college football championship reaction. The Ohio State Buckeyes finally come through. The Big Ten back-to-back champions?

[00:00:39] Woo! So we're going to break it down for you. Myself and the one and only. World famous. World renowned. Born in Texas. Raised in VA. Representing everything New Jerusalem. And he wants all you losers out there that don't get swiped the correct way. New Jersey is the diner capital of the world. More capitals. More diners than any state in the United States.

[00:01:08] So come on, have a seat, and actually talk to a woman in person. Do that. He is Mr. Logic. Great food at all of them. Do not bring feelings to a fact fight. Don't do it. So, like, review, subscribe, share, rate, do all the free things. Do all the good things. All right, Mr. Logical. Lots of football to talk about.

[00:01:34] So out of all the things that have happened this week, there is one thing that stood out to me more than anything else. The ACC has decided. Well, they haven't decided. They're talking about changing the format on how they select their champion. So this year, you know, they were just like everybody else. You know, you play your regular season. Whoever has the best two records, play in a championship game.

[00:02:02] The winner of that game gets an automatic playoff spot. Well, I guess the ACC got tired of all the SEC complaining. And they decided, well, hey, like, what would it be like if we had a mini ACC tournament? So how does that look? So, for example, this season, SMU would have got the championship and, you know, buy in the playoffs. Miami and Clemson would have played.

[00:02:32] Hopefully the winner of that game would have got a playoff. Because the ACC ended up with two teams. So, you know, but going forward, that's not the only idea that ACC had, Mr. Logical. Their other idea was let's do a mini tournament, one through four tournament style. So you would have had, in that scenario, you would have had SMU against Syracuse. Sorry for mentioning them Miami fans. And then we would have got that Miami-Clemson game as the 2-3 matchup. Winners play.

[00:03:02] Winner gets the playoff spot. What do you think, Mr. Logical? First of all, shout out to Syracuse. Malachi James met him in a barbershop. Met his father a couple weeks ago. Outstanding young man. Has the record for the fastest 100th time in state of New Jersey high school history. So shout out to Syracuse. But I hate that idea from the beginning, from its inception, from the concept to the logic behind it.

[00:03:31] The reason I hate every single thing about it. I don't like any aspect of this idea at all. The problem that I have with it mainly is they allow the SEC and the Big Ten to bully them into taking 60 or 58% of the pot in like the next couple of years. That's the problem.

[00:04:00] I think everybody else is going to get like 11%. And I think the SEC and the Big Ten are splitting. I think they're getting 29% each. So instead of addressing the fact that you got little bro'd by these bigger conferences, you come up with something else that makes you look more like a little bro. Like, well, you know what? We're going to. It's dumb. Just do what SEC does.

[00:04:30] You make sure you highlight your best schools. You funnel. You ensure that the people in place at these universities follow the mold that's set by the SEC. The SEC, the only thing they do is they get talent and they turn their school into football culture.

[00:04:51] Everything goes to football because the swim team probably got some nice hoodies because of the Nike deal that Alabama football team really drives. Same thing with LSU. Like, you just have to understand the hierarchy of things at your university. Getting into the college football playoffs by holding out can still get you voted out.

[00:05:19] Because the committee can be like, well, you didn't even play in your conference tournament to avoid the potential that you were going to lose that game and not get in. For that, we don't feel that you're championship, national championship contenders because you're not even willing to battle your own conference. Right. How am I going to put you in the battle against 11 other teams? So it's just, I mean, everyone's grasping at straws because it's new.

[00:05:48] In my opinion, like I said, we'll get into it. I think it works, you know, with some tweaks. I don't think it needs to be this drastic. Like, you ever been on like a, you know, we've done the military, you know, for combined over 40 years. Mm-hmm. We used to have down days at Hill Air Force Base, right? We would have like, you had knock it off and then we have those down days with different levels of leadership. We'd talk to the wing commander and the chief and you could say whatever you want.

[00:06:18] It was very candid. And a lot of things came out of that was very simple. Like, listen, we're flying too much for the amount of people we have. You had an idea that's not sustainable for the people we have. We've had this meeting. Let's go for it. We didn't sit in this meeting and say, you know what? I think we need to fly from 3 to 6 a.m. and then from 9 to noon. And no, it's like, listen, we're flying too much.

[00:06:47] We don't have the people. That's our problem. Let's start there. The ACC is like, you guys don't play, you don't have enough good teams compared to the other conferences. Let these other conferences build up their teams as much as they can. Encourage a transfer portal, workshops, whatever kind of meetings you need to have on Zoom or in place or your little private meetings.

[00:07:12] Get your teams better to where now the SEC is basically living off of the success of three schools. We can go back and forth and anyone can get in my comments and at me, whatever the case may be. The SEC is living off the success of a good Alabama program, LSU, and Georgia. The rest of them are just as up and down as any other conference.

[00:07:40] The Big Ten, you give me a good Michigan area once in a while. You give me a steady Penn State. And you give me a pretty outstanding Ohio State consistently. Everyone's living off of that. Everyone's eating off of that. Like back in the day when everyone in the Pac-10 was eating off of USC and Oregon. Or the Pac-10, Pac-12, whatever the case may be. So ACC just has to prop up Miami. Prop up maybe Clemson. Florida State, Clemson, yeah. Florida State.

[00:08:09] Get those three schools going. And that way Duke, when Duke goes 9-3 one year, we can be arguing for them like Ole Miss was trying to lie to get themselves in. Strictly off the strength of Georgia and everybody else. Well, you know, so like the biggest problem with a situation like this for me, just going off of the things that college football fans say. So let's go to last year, for example. Florida State finished 13-0.

[00:08:36] You know, and granted, you know, Jordan Travis got injured. But let's say he didn't. You know, so they're 13-0. They go into this tournament, play Georgia Tech. And then you would have had Louisville and NC State in the other game. I mean, what if Florida State would have lost one of those games? You know what I mean? And you know what I mean? Like we know, like now fast forward and give Jordan Travis that injury in the ACC title game. You got a one-loss Florida State team that wouldn't have got in still probably.

[00:09:06] You know, so from that standpoint, you only stand to screw yourself because the SEC and the Big Ten right now are the only conferences that can actually suffer losses and not be eliminated early. So, like, if you're Virginia Tech and you come out and lose a game to NC State week five, because of perception, NC State is thought of to be weak. So that's a bad loss for you no matter how you spin it.

[00:09:32] So you're going to have to win out automatically, get that ACC title spot because I can't guarantee you are at large. I mean, Ohio State were in the same boat and Ohio State just stayed in the playoff. Right. Ohio State stayed in because probably, I mean, granted, who they lost to probably mattered, but also you can't even say that because Syracuse finished third in the ACC. So it just depends on your conference perception. It just depends on the perception of your conference. And that's the problem within itself.

[00:10:01] Basically, what hood you live in. What hood determines how hard you are. And that's the problem within this. If you get somebody from Brooklyn, you're good to go. We're like, I'm from Albany. Like, you're from Albany? But, well, if you're from Albany, you might have to punch somebody in the face. So you're like, yeah, cool. Do some Brooklyn. They're doing their thing. But we're getting busy. People from Omaha get down. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying like Bud Crawford got to go out there. He has to really prove to people. Like, yo, yeah, don't get a twist. Omaha is getting a crack in too. So it's like. Yeah. So, so, so, so, you know, when I.

[00:10:29] So when you look at it, that's the problem within itself. Because we're still having the same conversation about most deserving and, you know, best. And you can't define best because that's subjective. So I know it's easy to see Ohio State versus Miami. And you think, I got to say Ohio State. But if those two teams played this year, I'm not sure Ohio State wins that game. But we'll never know.

[00:10:55] And that's the problem with college football is that even though we settle it on the field, we don't. So to your point, I do think that the 12-team playoff worked. But it depends on what you were looking for. Because if you were just looking for, I need a team other than the top, let's say four, you know, just for practical conversation. The top four win the national title. No.

[00:11:23] So where it didn't make sense was what happened to Oregon that we talked about. Where you're the number one seed. You played Ohio State in the eighth seed. The second round. So we ended up with the national title being the seventh and eighth seed. So that sounds awesome because you can't say the one seed automatically won. The two seed automatically won. But at the same time, if we had a proper playoff structure, Oregon just got to go win the game.

[00:11:52] But for the way that it was set up, yeah, Oregon should have probably been playing. I don't even know. I got to think about it. I can't even think right now. But, you know, but that's the thing. They probably would have played. They would have been playing Arizona State, right? No, because Arizona State had a bye. But weren't they 12? They would have been 12. No, they were 12 in the ranking. They were four in the playoff seeding. So 12 was Boise. Oh, I'm sorry. 12 was Clemson. I'm sorry. 12 was Clemson. Okay.

[00:12:22] So whoever won out in that first round, they should have reseeded one through whatever. One plays the... It's always weird. Lowest or highest. We'll go with lowest ranking team. So if there was a 10 available, one would play 10, whatever case may be. Right. So that's an easy fix. I think people are kind of clamoring like, oh my God, I can't... Once again, we had the meeting. We all sat down. And it's like, hey, what's going on in the flight line?

[00:12:52] We're flying too much. You need to slow down. Cool. The 12-team playoff. What's going on? How can we fix it? Simple. I think you keep the buys because that's an incentive for people to play their championship game. There's also a way for teams to play themselves in, i.e. Clemson. And you get the buy. Just leave the buy the way it is. Very similar to the NFL where Tampa Bay got a home playoff game, even though Washington and Minnesota both had... And Green Bay.

[00:13:21] And Green Bay had better records. Just keep it simple. Like, hey, you win these conferences, you get the buy. That's... Just leave it... Even if it's the... Whatever the Pac-12 turns into, whatever it is, leave that way. Then you set it up the same way you had it this year, except after the first round, you reseed. Maybe you don't have these gaps in between and you can play...

[00:13:50] Like, Ohio State got a home game versus Tennessee. Maybe you play... I guess you would have to play that bowl game anyway. Well, see, I was going to go reverse. Well, like I said, I just think you reseed. You have the teams. I like the buys. You reseed after the first round of games.

[00:14:14] That way, if you're the top-ranked team, theoretically, you should get the worst team of the available... At that point, it'd be eight teams. And then you go... And you play it out. And then the next round, you do the same thing. As long as the winner plays at a certain location. As long as the location standard, then it doesn't matter who the two teams are.

[00:14:38] So if the winner of the Rose Bowl played their next game and it was going to be at State Farm Arena in Phoenix, Arizona... Then that's where it is. So as long as people know where to buy their plane tickets and what games to purchase, that's fine. But, yeah, don't give the number one team... Arguably the best team in the country in the second round on a neutral field.

[00:15:06] That seems a little unfair as far as, like... You know, you go through this entire season. You go undefeated. You win your conference. And then you get rewarded by playing the second team in your conference... Or the third team in your conference based off of, like, I guess... I think they were closer to four because they had two losses. But we all understood that Ohio State was one of the best teams in the country. Yeah, I picked them to win the national title preseason.

[00:15:36] Second year in a row. I got that right, by the way. But, you know, it's one of those things where, for me, maybe you just need to figure out... Like, you got to pick something and stick to it. You know, one way or the other. You can make additions. You can take things away. But you don't need to re-change the whole thing. But what I was going to say was, just establish a criteria. Conference champion. And automatic buy. If that's your structure, that's your structure.

[00:16:06] The one thing that I think I would like to add, potentially, is a second home game. And not have the bowl... That's what I was trying to figure that out. But, once again, you don't have... You don't have enough games to cover the bowl games. I don't think. Well, it depends on what you want to do with that. It depends on what you want to do with that. Unless you want to make, like, the... You would just probably have to... Or you could just add bowls to the playoffs if you wanted to.

[00:16:36] Or you make the... So, the original New Year's Six, right? You got Orange Bowl... The Orange, Cotton... Cotton... Peach... Peach. Fiesta... Peach. Rose Bowl. And the other one that I can't think of... Was it the Cotton Bowl? Did you say Cotton Bowl? Orange, Fiesta... Orange, Fiesta... Rose. Peach. Cotton. We'll call it... Yeah. The other bowl.

[00:17:02] you make those six games six very intriguing high-level matchups 10 and 2 teams your or your 9 and 3 Syracuse versus 9-3 Ole Miss to ACC versus SEC you just make those six bowl games marquee matchups out of the other 12 teams that are kind of around the 12 teams that could have

[00:17:31] been in the playoffs because like I said you get that pot of 16 teams instead of having like automatically hey army's gonna play in this bowl end up playing a five and seven martial team just really step back and say okay the new year six we don't want neutral sites for our college football playoff games so we're gonna put the best other 12 teams or other six and three yeah it's

[00:17:58] almost like a nit without a trophy or like a without a tournament so you'll get you'll get miami versus south carolina miami south carolina in the probably a bowl down south so you can sell it out that's the original problem in the first place is that due to crowds and fan bases and so on so forth the bowl games are tied into certain conferences you know what i mean like like the liberty bowl down

[00:18:25] at memphis the ac plays in that bowl and it's usually memphis so you know you so so i get what you're saying um i just think that way oregon oregon should have got a home game in this yeah right and yeah i was going to bring that up and that's the other part of it is that these fans when you look at the fans trying to plan to get to these games you know so you were ohio state right you had a home

[00:18:52] game then you went to the rose bowl then you played texas down here in the cotton bowl to go to the compressor so you know so as a fan having that second home game might matter you know let me go to these two home games and the ohio state fans that live in miami can go to a game in miami or whatever the case may be so on so forth you know or you you know you always got destinations

[00:19:19] but the reason that i say that is to back up your point because oregon's first game in the playoff was the rose bowl and then they would have had to turn around play ohio state in the just the way that the bracket played out and you you know this happens but they would have played texas in dallas is the one seed so you would have had the big the best eight seed apparently because ohio state won the title anyway and then you would have played back to back

[00:19:46] the second place sec team on their turf in their state well you can't buy a product of college football and just college sports in general because they they sell the location and the the game is somewhat secondary to the location because the incident we talk about the basketball

[00:20:13] tournament the location is wherever it is it could be next year it could be in minnesota but they're going to be playing inside of the you know whatever i think the usa bank stadium is what it's called or you know whatever so that's nothing to do with where the best basketball is going to come from because ncaa sells a location i just feel like if you're going to give it if a team earned the number

[00:20:36] one spot you have to figure out a way to get them a home game just for the fans and the advantage you want to give the number one team the advantage in the nfl kansas city had a bye detroit had a bye and their first playoff game was on their home turf there has to be a way to figure it out either get rid of

[00:20:58] the bye in or or play it earlier or don't have like the two-week break like just figure out a way to where you can get them a home game if they're gonna if they're gonna get a bye you got to figure out a way to get a home game especially with boise boise has the blue turf it'll been a great home game and then the last thing real quick before we skip over to the national title game i saw the funniest

[00:21:25] headline i did read the story but the headline itself was hilarious is unlv ucla football game in las vegas part of an initiative to get unlv to the big 10 the big 10 has 18 teams already they want to get the 20 i'm sure but it ain't it ain't unlv

[00:21:53] i mean it's a decent size it's a popular market i give them that i don't know how big the vegas market is i don't think vegas as a city is that large as far as population it's a popular market honestly they could do no wrong they're they're the proverbial cat mercy the sec can bring in tulane they can bring in they can steal smu from the acc the sec could do whatever they want because

[00:22:19] they're kind of established as these these pillars of the sport they can't they could do no wrong their their their best programs are blue blood traditional legacy historic frank like programs so they're never gonna fall off whereas the acc what's their powerhouse their powerhouse is based in basketball so they have to revamp their image every year they got

[00:22:48] to come back and resubscribe and pay that initial fee again every single year whereas sec walks right in the restaurants they whip out a table form the big 10 walks right in they whip out a table form they are locked in the rest of these people are have to clamor for it the pack 12 should not be the pack two or whatever it is now but because i guess they weren't viewed as these blue bloods

[00:23:15] in this region of of america that's football is religion damn near hey they're back up to seven schools now they're like the pack seven or the pack eight now but they ain't gonna have the stature nowhere near the stature that they exactly or you know um so yeah so so overall to close this up yeah i think that the playoff worked for the most part there's a few tweaks that we would like to see

[00:23:40] made but i'm satisfied with it yeah i think it works um if boise was the number eight c and ran the table i think people want to change it but since it was ohio state i believe the only it's probably going to be more changes people are probably going to want more teams because they feel like teams got left out that's not a valid enough reason for me as far as like that product going from two

[00:24:07] with the bcs to four with the college football playoff and now 12 i'm like i think 12 is is deep enough you don't want the 32nd ranked team playing against the number one ranked team in the first round because that's score 64 to 2 and you know what's funny we were we were on here talking about yo they gonna get indiana man i don't know if indiana is safe and then we fast forward and both of the

[00:24:37] teams that beat indiana played in the compressor for the national title last night so mr logical i'm gonna start with you because you picked notre dame to win yep where did it all go wrong uh it went wrong because i picked notre dame to win not based off what i thought ohio state was capable of is what i thought i brought feelings to a fact fight which i shouldn't have done i just thought that

[00:25:06] they would play tight i thought ryan day would play tight call it tight i thought i just thought that it would be a lot i thought it'd be more reminiscent of the michigan game because notre dame is built a lot like michigan big strong players control the clock run the ball not a lot of explosive playmakers on the outside quarterback isn't like this blue chip i'm gonna get drafted guys one of those just like

[00:25:35] you know just like a gamer like just a guy a gritty gamer and i thought that they would get into this this this this fight back and forth to where the gritty gamer would make the third and seven rpo get eight yards but it was ohio state who was like yeah well howard carry us to the promised

[00:25:57] land and it looked they looked like the team that had the most talent in the playoffs and they put it on display what four games in a row so i mean you gotta tip your cap to them it's like i said it wasn't a

[00:26:19] slight to ohio state i just thought that at some point the momentum had to slow down and now being on this big stage i thought the coach had a huge target on his back and his face and his forehead and the side of his head and his chest from everyone the ad the fans the media i thought everybody was ready to just you know fire bullet off in a ryan day and i thought he would approach the game that way where he would be

[00:26:48] tight and not have a good game plan but he's like yo chip man let's run up the score so i can get so i can get this contract extension and beat michigan next year hopefully well see initially when i turned on this game you know notre dame literally literally walked down the field you know 10 plays it was i mean 15 plays it was like 10 minutes long you know but there was

[00:27:15] something that happened on that drive even though notre dame scored and got a touchdown there was something that told me the game was over remember the other night when we were previewing the game true i made this point about how with a quarterback like riley leonard notre dame or they organize and construct a lot of runs design runs for him but you want to be able to call them when you want to call

[00:27:43] them and not be dictated on when to call them and like i brought up the left tackle being out now you got people in riley leonard's face so now he's running even more than you intend him to so on that first drive they called nine rush plays for him so that told me that julian love was really banged up i'm sorry jeremiah love is really banged up so then you know said riley leonard had the

[00:28:11] willie beeman moment and i said this ain't donovan mcnab like donovan mcnab is more nerves like this guy is beat up and like he's not used to that output so quickly it's like the first time i tried to drink 12 ice houses you know before i went to the club you know it's about like that drink ice house again it ruined my night oh it ruined my night in zurich switzerland oh rob the mexican

[00:28:40] can tell you oh yeah my night drinking those goddamn ice houses but keep going i definitely yeah i definitely got an off camera i definitely got an off camera ice house story uh so riley leonard on the night 17 rushes total none of those was on that first drive but when you look at it the notre

[00:29:02] dame running backs two of them combined only had seven carries so once ohio state got the ball they just said that's what you got watch this and they just ohio stated for about 15 minutes got out to a big lead and then something that you talked about happened because because you made the

[00:29:27] comment of you know is ohio state going to get up take that foot off the gas you know and then like before you could blink notre dame gets a touchdown like okay yeah but they still got to get the two they got the two they got the two 16 of a deal yeah and then marcus freeman made the rookie mistake

[00:29:50] you know nine minutes and some change left 31 to 15 in field goal range but fourth and two so i said nine minutes left in the fourth quarter so you're going to need to score twice get two point conversions so you essentially got a score can't take the kick there you can't take the kick there i almost was nick right of first things first like i said it's a show i watch a lot

[00:30:16] i know we go beef about this no he he had an argument that would have swayed me if if i'm in if it's three coaches on the sideline and i had a five minute tv timeout let's hypothetically say that like for whatever reason the lights go out in the compressor they get a few minutes to talk

[00:30:44] about it right before this play call i'm blocked in to your point it's it's not two touchdowns it's two possessions i think if i'm ever if i've ever got the opportunity to be an offensive coach or a football coach my goal would be to go up a possession every time i have the ball if i'm in scoring range so if

[00:31:07] i'm up 14 points and it's fourth and one from the six i'm gonna kick the field goal just to go up another possession so at a minimum you have to get the ball three times i just gotta stop you one and that's like i just i now we're back and forth so that's my leverage there it's like okay cool i'm up another possession so if you're freeman you're now 16 i gotta get a touchdown and a two-point conversion

[00:31:36] i'm inside the 10 worst case scenario you give the ball back to ohio state and you're in the same boat you're still down two possessions i know it's still two touchdowns and two two-point conversions ain't the worst case scenario the worst case scenario they go get another touchdown well they get that field goal you're talking about if you kick the field goal and you're down 13

[00:31:59] and they go get another touchdown you're in the same boat so it's like your your your circumstances aren't really improved by being down 13 no i'm talking about the other team though like if you're down 14 or 16 they go down there and get a field goal and make it 19 then that adds a possession going for you that as a possession so like to me kicking the field goal is kicking the field goal

[00:32:28] there is a 14 minute decision under 10 minutes you gotta go for the touchdown and two-point conversion because like i said you're in the same boat you gotta get the ball i told you i told you did you know what this is this is baltimore buffalo again the john harbaugh when he went for two because i'm gonna say the exact same thing that i said in

[00:32:56] that scenario because what because back then you know lamar jackson threw a pass on fourth and one we talked about that we talked for like three four hours just about that yeah this is a free podcast yeah and and i my whole point about it was if you just look at the tenor of the game the teams were moving the ball up and down the court or the field so you got to get points in my opinion but there was only two minutes left when he made that decision so you get the two point or you get the touchdown on

[00:33:25] fourth down now they got to go get a touchdown versus they just need a field goal so they they this is the fourth down buffalo gets the ball at the one and then they go down get the game winning field goal mr logical says they should have just took the points no that's what it was lamar threw a pick in the end zone oh it was a pick but it was still down though yeah yeah it was

[00:33:48] fourth and goal from the one yeah a field goal would have put them up six john yeah because it was 23 20 it was 23 20 john harbaugh said he was concerned that they were going to get a touchdown i'm like well at least put your defense in the position of where they only have to guard the end zone everything else is free reign stay calm stay in your shell everything's all good guard end zone

[00:34:17] what freeman did last night he put the deep he put the onus on the defense well with the fuel goal like yo i need two more stops from you in the next nine minutes whereas they already they you get the touchdown there in the two-point conversion they only need one stop right if you don't get it you need to

[00:34:43] but kicking a field goal and i still got to get you two stops people talk about the points because people care about the offense the defense like yo i still got to get two stops on a team that ran and that's why when we had this conversation and that's why when we had this conversation i made the point of like the the way that the way i think the reason that we were missing each other in that

[00:35:10] argument and the same reason we're going to miss each other right now is because to some degree we're arguing from two different not just philosophies but just but you know because from the state because from your standpoint you're taking you would basically take the field goal 99 out of 100 times i would take the field goal if i would take the field goal if i was putting myself up points because

[00:35:37] i can control that and i give my defense one we're talking from the notre dame perspective they were the ones down by 16 the notre dame perspective i'm going for the touchdown okay and the two-point conversion okay okay my defensive piece is i need a stop with right nine like nine and like because basically it was fourth and two so you figure say they scored that next play that next play

[00:36:07] takes eight to nine eight to ten seconds so it's 9 27 when you kick the ball back to ohio state i can gather my defense around and say one stop we get the ball back we're gonna tie this game but if i kick a field goal and we're now we're down 13 i gotta go to my defense and say

[00:36:30] i need two stops in the next nine and a half minutes on a team that ran up 31 consecutive points on you tonight not like a different game it's not like it's like tonight this team with those five stars have been like you see this is live i need two more stops from you i would rather i won't say die on my shield but i would have go i would have gone for the touchdown there because

[00:36:59] no matter what you need to stop okay that's what i was gonna say yeah people talk about the offensive side of it was like defensively that defense wins championships and i think sometimes people have to like be the voice of the defense you're sending your defense back out there they were getting pummeled all night long and they came up with a couple stops here and there but for the most part

[00:37:22] they were handled and then you get them to third and 11 the defense did their job and the defense coordinator's like okay cool we're gonna go single coverage no safety help on the guy who would be the number one pick in the nfl draft in 90 days in the most crucial moment down eight third and 11

[00:37:47] because that passes if that passes defended properly or if that coverage is called properly ohio state's like okay cool we'll kick it deep and we'll put our defense on the field but to just like even if you're trying to sell out for the run i can stop the run and still double

[00:38:08] so so third and 11 right third and 11 you know how many yards that play got 44 or something like that 56 they went over half the field yards yeah they went over half the field on third and 11 that's crazy to think about the play the route the route was the db played it as best as he could

[00:38:35] because you don't he looked like he was running like he was running the post and he just ran him to the hash and then just faded back out to the sideline i would have put i would have put him in a better position i wouldn't have him out there on an island in that moment but i agree it's hindsight 2020 but i don't know and now the defensive coordinator is being interviewed by the cincinnati bengals

[00:39:05] but you know and and you know but the reason the reason now well no he got the he got the interview today but but you know but that's the but that's the thing like so i thought we were going to disagree because you would but you were going off of the perspective of them being somebody being in the lead and having a decision to be you know so with marcus freeman so much control you have in the game

[00:39:27] and i think you he he with the ball in your hand you have control you have to dictate the game from that from that perspective you can't you can't put it up to chance because getting two stops was putting it up to chance right putting up one stop was like a little bit more hopeful see and that's the and that's the other thing i was going to bring up because like usually when i have those decisions the game script matters all that matters you know is this a defensive game is this an offensive game

[00:39:57] that might change the way i think about it so when i was looking at last night the reason that i felt marcus freeman should have went for it is if you're playing the cincinnati bengals and joe barrow throws it for 320 yards and there's still six minutes left in the game you're pretty sure that you got to stay in some kind of dime or nickel set you know what i mean when you're playing against those old

[00:40:22] school jacksonville jaguars maurice jones drew and fred taylor you know if they ran for 200 yards on you you go stack the box you go do all this stuff so the reason that i bring all that up to tie it up they go for the field goal they miss it at that point in the game there were nine minutes and some change left yeah like 9 30 after after the missed kick is about 9 31 9 32 something like

[00:40:52] yeah so so with that being said and with that thought in mind it was the run game that was gashing you up so when i looked at it you got to go for the points because this team ran for 214 yards on you it's nine minutes left in the game so when they get the ball back and oh by the way half minutes right and oh by the way their offensive coordinator loves to run the

[00:41:19] football he pulled the seat though you know saying when my boss catches going chop your head off like a rabbit whatever that's saying you know what i'm talking about scarface that's it a rabbit gets fucked you know but uh so so that's what it is ohio state deserved the national title you know they were from the standpoint of the two teams playing last night and when you go back and look at their season you're like yo they lost to michigan notar dame lost to northern illinois so we so the

[00:41:47] national champion would have won we would have complained about that but with ohio state i saw somebody in one of the sports group that said notar dame didn't belong and it's like oh my god like why are y'all like this why you like this and i like i chimed in i was like listen yeah they were getting dominated true but they were down one possession with a stop on third down to get the ball back to potentially tie the game up like right i mean you don't you don't ask to be down in the

[00:42:16] game but if you were like hey if a coach is like listen you're getting blown out and you got your jv squad in the game and the end of the four minutes up in the fourth quarter or you have you're starting you know defensive defense out there and if they get this stop you have an opportunity to score a touchdown to go for two and tie the game go to overtime i think you would take that in a game

[00:42:44] where you probably were outmatched talent for talent in your key areas on on the field right all right all right so yeah so congratulations to the buck guys let's see who two five picks in august so that brings us over to the sunday sport that sometimes plays on saturday you know i got through it right now got some to piss off all the it's rich shut the fuck up shut sorry

[00:43:13] please yeah so so look i'm saying it's rigged it's not rigged it is not rigged it's not rigged it's happening every game but if you if you go into a game it's called confirmation bias people look it up google it wikipedia if you look at something like if you wake up and you say today's gonna be a bad day and your hot water isn't as hot as it normally is when you go take a shower that confirms

[00:43:39] your bias that you're gonna have a bad day well if you look at every call may in a chiefs game that goes the chiefs way it's going to be that way i'll go back to cincinnati and i'll let mike do his thing because i had this conversation i had this loaded and i'm not even like a kansas city homer i'm just a homer for logic oh kansas city against kansas city against cincinnati in the game where the

[00:44:02] pass interference was called on fourth and 16 converted on fourth and six and had a very weak hands to the face call on fourth down after they converted their fourth down called against them and then the very next play cincinnati had to pass interference i had a conversation with my pops he's like they're always getting those calls i'm like

[00:44:28] what about the call right before where they got the conversion they were moving the ball and the rest like nope that's the flag they got calls on them too the thing that kansas city has that other teams don't have is poise and we'll get into it from there keep going so yeah like you see

[00:44:53] this in this ain't a football thing you know i say this when you know i watch college basketball and i'm watching a duke game or i'm watching a kansas game you know when i look at college football i'm like alabama really didn't commit holding all season you know so on and so forth but when i say all of those names and throwing it a pie when you pick it out it makes sense because those are the established

[00:45:18] blue blood programs or teams of their sport so kansas city's gonna get these calls that's first and foremost nothing you could do about it and you know so when you look at the numbers because you know stat guy when you look at the numbers the chiefs are right in line with the rest of the league when it comes to total penalties you know what i mean so they don't get penalized any less than

[00:45:44] anybody but with these championship teams with these they win championships so their skill there's talent there's coaching there's luck and every now and again there's a call so you know so from that stand tuck rule right so real quick real quick i don't want to get ahead of us but i want i want you to think about this real quick and give me a quick answer yeah yeah there was a call that i feel was a

[00:46:09] bad call in the buffalo game how many videos or tiktoks or anything you've been has been shared to you of the call i think is bad probably you don't know do you know what call i'm talking about i don't the end of the second quarter pass interference when keon coleman shoved derriott's white to the ground and they called a pass interference on the corner that allowed buffalo to get the touchdown

[00:46:36] i gotta look at that again cause i think it was pass interference if you look even in slow motion it wasn't pass interference because keon coleman literally two hands shoved him like a bouncer trying to kick him out the club but what i'm saying is that that call benefited buffalo right and i know a lot of a lot of those pass interference calls very subjective i know i don't want to derail it but

[00:46:59] it's like right i think that call was not as egregious as the kansas city calls which i can admit are they were a bit egregious but there's no tiktok clips of that there's no facebook videos of that there's there's no instagram videos of that there's no i don't know if there's a baltimore player sound

[00:47:24] bite of them talking about that play whereas everybody else once again confirmation bias is like oh because i fell short of my responsibilities there's a built-in excuse and it's the stuff that everybody else sees and it's like sam donald got his head ripped off in the end zone against the rams it wasn't called which then put them behind detroit ultimately forcing

[00:47:54] them to go on the road for their home their real playoff game no one talks about that right yeah so so the thing is though kansas city and this is the first time i've really thought about it during a season usually this pops up during the playoffs like for example i know that i spent plenty of time

[00:48:18] talking about how the chiefs got away with two very blatant holds in that super bowl against the fortnight you know what i mean and that's the kind of stuff that it happens so people can it's such a high leverage moment that people can go back and remember it you know what i mean they don't remember a call that happened in week two unless it was super egregious you know like for example i used to argue

[00:48:43] about that golden take touchdown on monday night football with the replacement refs yeah because they they once said touchdown one way timeout yeah one way uh touchback but unless but unless there's outside of that being monday night football if that was just a regular week whatever game that was seattle fans might remember it green bay fans might remember it but we ain't gonna talk about it

[00:49:11] probably like like just day to day so so so when you look at kansas that wasn't a face mask they did no one no one no one sent out a video about that yeah you know and that's the thing you know because the chiefs just seem keyword operative word they seem to get away with it more than everybody else does i would argue they and like i said i remember that the example i brought up the other night

[00:49:40] was baylor against duke 2010 elite eight you know this is the john shire championship team you know like every time it was just like that warriors calves game i always talk about where duke just led wire to wire they would go up 12 baylor cut it down to six oh that's a charge like get it down to seven again oh that's a charge it was like so some teams do have a preponderance

[00:50:08] preponderance to get these type of calls the difference is those are the teams that would beat you anyway when you play with skill good luck what happened um but that's what it boils down to a lot of times when it when it comes down to because like i said the bangles i'll choose the bangles games as a prime example the play before when kansas city converted their fourth down

[00:50:34] they got called back most teams would not be able to regroup in the 40 seconds it takes for the ball to be marked off in the penalty a new play call comes in and now we got to regroup and get another play call in most teams would just crumble make a coach you make a bad the sunday night game against y'all you know people talk about the pass interference or whatever it was in the end zone but like

[00:51:01] atlanta had the ball back and on fourth and one they overloaded the left side and tossed the ball behind it's like we all know where the ball was going yeah so you know over there but real quick you know sorry texans this is the same team that lost a game where they secured five interceptions

[00:51:22] they out gained the chiefs in this game 336 to 212 149 to 50 yards rushing 187 to 162 in passing yards they still lost because the chiefs got eight sacks and they decided to go oh yeah that travis kelsey yeah number 87 the dude that we talk about all the time let's single cover him it was

[00:51:49] some plays where travis kelsey was catching the ball and the closest person there and was the umpire in millsfield that's it was like on that long run when i think uh uh sharif tried to like punch the ball out at that point he's got it up here it's five two six it's a big dude you're not gonna get your arm in here to just tackle yeah but instead you punch and he gets like 18 to 20 more

[00:52:15] yards out of it so yeah i'm not saying listen i get that the calls were bad but the system in place has not helped you in that moment there's no review for 15 yard penalties i heard on rich eisen show he was like listen any 15 yard penalty should be reviewed by someone the issue is pass interference a call like that in slow motion it looks like pass interference

[00:52:44] right uh any kind of helmet they would have got that baltimore call right if they would have looked at it like i mean if they would have considered that you know what i mean consider it and looked at it they would have seen they would have seen even uh what's the uh romo no the the rep that they have gene oh oh gene yeah territory yeah he said i would have liked to see the no call there

[00:53:07] right because he's like they're both locked up and on top of the fact that the wide receiver was the only one on his two feet when the ball hit the ground it's like right i would like no call there um with the texans i think you like i said if you wake up in the morning thinking your day is going to be bad and the water and the shower isn't hot enough i think it interrupted their entire flow they never

[00:53:34] laws of attraction the the the penalty when mahomes was sliding in slow motion in a replay would have been yep both of you hit them in the head one hit them with a forum was it as aggressive as we think it is probably not but on a replay which which you don't really want because replays show all kinds of stuff you hit them in the head you probably hit people in the head on every single replay if you if

[00:54:03] they slowed it down so let's just say it was like pause yeah you would have had pause they would have got that penalty anyway but when they got is when they get the ball back they gave up a couple of sacks bad sacks um they didn't get any touchdowns the opening kickoff was like a 70 yard return penalty you got the guy pushing his coach and it's like i didn't get the game on before that i still

[00:54:32] don't know what the hell happened yeah he was the one that got the penalty on the on the kickoff so he he made the tackle and pulled the helmet yeah knocked the ball out so when he knocked the ball out he celebrated thinking they recovered it took his helmet off uh-huh and they got the penalty afterwards yeah and then and i don't know i don't know i don't know what how that led to the push

[00:54:59] though that's that's the that's the thing i thought he was celebrating i did too maybe they yelled at him and he just was upset thinking he didn't commit the penalty that they called him for because like you said everybody hello everybody in the uh everyone who did a post-game interview mentioned the fact that it was going to be them versus the rest so to come out the opening play once again my showers

[00:55:28] as high as i think it should be the opening play you commit a penalty you get flagged and now all the stuff you heard all week all the videos you consumed all week all this information you took in all week that made you feel like you were going to be behind the eight ball is coming to fruition and we are 11 seconds into this football game and they played the game that way

[00:55:57] yeah so i was going to go somewhere else but since we've been talking about it a little bit where did it go wrong for the ravens the ravens just i said it for multiple weeks with the ravens we know what your rundowns look like we know what your passing down situations look like

[00:56:26] right so when henry was getting stopped on first and second down i think like that kind of that feeling just kind of like resonated with the sideline like oh buffalo's selling out for the run i would have liked some first down lamar runs to the right he's right-handed he likes doing it to the tight ends

[00:56:55] tight ends coming from the back side of the formation across the formation like on the um on the two point conversion we'll get into these but like that two point conversion was like a designed rollout i like getting a ball in the left hash with derrick henry and you play action stretch to the left with lamar you get the defense leading to their right and then you bootleg with lamar

[00:57:17] you leak a tight end out or you let him keep it right you put the fear of henry andrews likely lamar all in that play it could get four yards you pull a guard out maybe maybe you got a guard out there that's potentially blocking for lamar just off of that action i could i could have given it to henry

[00:57:43] okay we got to worry about that likely came across from the back side and he's dragging across he's on like a 10 yard route andrews is kind of in the flat and you got a guard that pulled out he's front of lamar lamar can keep everything's legal all the linemen are out you know well it's never one yard now the defensive coordinator has to be like what do i do if i can't guard all four of these things

[00:58:11] and they can do it from any kind of action they set up because how dynamic lamar is and how much he likes looking for the tight end it's i just felt like they didn't exploit that enough you didn't have zay flowers just keep running bateman on those routes because they even got open so so i was right the other day it was that but you're todd munkin shots

[00:58:36] it's it's just but i was that's what i said before i said don't get tight like they did in the aft championship game get lamar on the edge because they have the ultimate threat at quarterback i think lamar is a bigger threat than any other quarterback in the league because one he doesn't run to the middle of the field and get himself hit he runs down the sideline and he

[00:59:00] gets out of bounds and he gets out quick and you can't catch him so now as soon as he does that if you'd have done that riley leonard in the um championship game ran the ball nine times yep one drive can you imagine if they would have called a couple like bootlegs with lamar and we talk about the tomorrow handling when he blitzed off the edge we've seen plenty of times where

[00:59:25] that corner misses lamar and it's just chaos on top of chaos on top of chaos behind it and it's like right now you got bateman just standing in the end zone waving his arms wide open waiting on the ball it's happened multiple times this year where even in this game where he threw back across his body i just feel like sometimes i talk about this for my son's basketball teams like sometimes

[00:59:53] don't call the play give direction hey go make a play don't be like yo we got it we got to get this kind of play like lamar what do you see well listen i think i can get on the edge on these guys hell call five in a row i'll run all five or let's run this ball eight times or like dig like they did against pittsburgh they remember like 12 times in a row something like that on one drive but i don't

[01:00:19] think they've ever established that they got they got away from it because derrick henry was going to stop on first and second down and they just they scrapped their game plan their 15 play script they didn't go through they stopped using yeah yeah and this is the type of playoff football that josh allen needs to play and you know this is when he plays the best is when they go with that we talked about justin herbert game plan where don't make the mistake tuck it if you got to toss

[01:00:48] it away if you you know so you can hold a team like baltimore at bay if you force three turnovers you know because now you're making them chase the possessions even though it's a close game they're chasing the possessions which causes things like lamar's fumble where you know we were talking about this off air you know so i was making the point of like as a coach

[01:01:13] i have to tell you like hey there we're down one we need to foul you know off the inbound with you know four seconds left but i shouldn't have to say that that should be known you know like it should be known we're down one we got a foul we got to stop the clock but you got but as a coach that's your job whereas john harbaugh's job to some degree and mr logical pointed out to me it's an unrealistic

[01:01:38] demand but i'm gonna demand it anyway you don't say like you might just got to tell lamar hey we're in field goal range right now because they were you know if it's not there you know i ain't necessarily telling you to take the sack but just be smart you know what i mean and then throw the ball away if you can but lamar they do tell him that and i think he just can't turn it off

[01:02:02] no what i think like i said i think they tell him things that aren't i think what they tell him don't align with his instincts right right that's what i'm saying he can't control it the problem is when i'm out there and that and when i'm out there in that war and that battle i'm storming normandy i need my instincts yes you have training yes you have protocols

[01:02:27] but his instincts got him this far he's probably on his third mvp he like i said that the mar hamlin blitz maybe if the field is a little warmer he gets out of that tonight you know last you know this last game it was unfortunate he couldn't get out of it

[01:02:54] i believe he tried to put both hands on the ball so he can wiggle his way out of it he's like i can't wiggle with both like you know ball waving around so let me get both hands on it wiggle my way out i just think the sequence was off because i think he tried to get his foot out knocked the ball out of his hand it was like shit and then von miller picked it up flashback to you know 2000 whenever he was in the combine running a 40 that he was looking at i saw his head was up like because

[01:03:23] i thought i thought just hill was going to be able to once again having justice hill in the game just basically lets the defense know you're going to pass just throwing it out there both i don't know i'm just a dude who who watches football he had 50 run yards on six carries the other day every in every single time it's like we know what you're doing with him in the game that's why the one time he popped like a 20 some yard run i'm like okay cool but every other time he's in there

[01:03:49] pretty much no like it's especially if it's a passing down you're not running the keeper or anything with lamar you're you're trying to get the ball to him because if you're gonna have a pass blocking back in there i don't have the six four 250 pound guy in there to pass block all right so stay there so stay there give it all the things that we talked about earlier this season when baltimore was struggling how many carries you think derrick henry had in that game uh i know that

[01:04:17] number is less than 20 and we know the 20 they're not to know when it's less than 20 they lose there you go yeah unfortunately 16 times the three turnovers does it speeds you up but the game was always with you know they didn't have to get out of their playbook inside the five yard line um but they were getting they were getting stopped on first down like from the first play because he

[01:04:41] popped 80 something yards on the first play in the 30 right the first game yeah and i think when that didn't work it's like ivan drago in the rocky movies when he was killing people with that right hand it was like bet but then when he couldn't knock rocky out what he was like it's like this is a different match like y'all just keep hitting him with the fucking the right hand still knock other people

[01:05:10] out it's killed some people right it's still you're saying right hand like derrick henry is still your killer punch hear that deontay just run a different play maybe instead of running that same play pop a counter on there pop something to wear if because we'll talk about the the philadelphia game what do we say right talk to your brother because who did something like saquon

[01:05:39] because you know i'll go in the bounce front but we'll get to it but just real quick there was a play orlowski broke it down on esp and he was like people talk about jaylen hurst performance but jaylen hurst checked to a run play he was like it was supposed to go to the left he looked up and was like it's a lot of linebackers on this side and he looked to his right was like it's only a safety on this side hey check that come over here and i might have i think he had like lane johnson

[01:06:09] out blocking the safety it's like this is a no brainer because they had he and oloski broke it down simply he was like it was a bunch of big guys over here and smaller guys here so jaylen said i'm gonna send my big guys over here with saquon touchdown this baltimore has to lock that in because derrick

[01:06:34] henry is always he's literally i mean one guy out of place on it for a big run two guys kind of in the way but if they're safeties or not matt milano that's still a 12 yard run that's still down you know matt milano who didn't play the first time they played baltimore he just and when he was like okay

[01:07:00] milano spying lamar cool we all saw it um quarterback design run run a guard right at the linebacker make the make the linebacker have to be shifty on a guard and then regroup and tackle your the shiftiest running back of all time right just throwing it out there i mean it seems like a simple thing like it's great i play dudes on madden and they they'll play with baltimore and i'm like

[01:07:27] with lamar you should win every game because some shit i can't i can't you can't guard right like if he rolls out deep enough it's like no defensive lineman's gonna get there just don't try to just run right at my guy like i got the spy on just wait this one dude just standing that's one dude who's not in coverage he's not guarding any space he is literally just one guy out there so now you're

[01:07:53] playing you have he's just standing there like milano is just like he's moving but he's not guarding anybody else if you run across her there drags there anything right behind him right he's he's only focused on lamar and i just feel like you you could have exploited that better considering every passing down it felt like that's what he was doing yeah so you know um we'll come back

[01:08:22] we know we were going to talk about harbaugh a little bit but we'll save that you know but you brought up the rams and eagles you know and the rams fans and people on tv been killing me all week or i guess it's tuesday but you know they're like besides those two big plays the rams held saquon to 50 yards it's like look he ran for 255 the first time you played he broke these big touchdowns on you

[01:08:48] and finished this game with 205 so that means in two games this season he ran for 450 yards against you you know then you didn't you you know thousand yard season is a benchmark for a running back yeah he ran 455 in two games yeah and that's the thing right so quinnon mitchell went down early you know shoulder injury we'll see if he's back i think he will be back but we'll see but that changes

[01:09:18] your formula if you're matt stafford especially if you're the type of quarterback that has struggled in the weather i struggled in the snow maybe having a quinnon mitchell out will help you and guess what he threw for 324 yards but that was kind of the problem is that it always felt like the rams were playing catch up even when they weren't i when i was watching the game what i was thinking is that

[01:09:46] it felt like like i said like did i say that this is what they were going to do because it felt like what philly was doing is exactly what i had laid out in my predictions that they were going to run jalen for five or six yards get down give the ball saquon run jalen again get to the tush push get the third and two get the second and one throw a few passes i think aj brown is probably already

[01:10:16] packing his bags no matter what level of success they achieve the season well maybe we'll find out this weekend yeah i think yeah i mean if if this is wrapped up after this weekend i could definitely see i don't know what his contract is looking like but i imagine that a team that needs like a dynamic wide receiver and they're like all around a lot i think they'll be calling philly because i believe he's done because he says something like i wouldn't wish they they won the game in the snow and i read a quote like granted i didn't see a video i just read a quote it said yeah it was just my worst enemy

[01:10:46] it's like you're not having any fun there everybody else is like yo i was having fun it's like playing it so i was like being a kid i don't i don't think he's having an amount of fun there that he probably used to have i don't know if the relationships are that tenuous um but i do remember like watching the game thinking like they're doing exactly what i said i would do if i was calling the game plan i'll throw 20 something passes but i'm gonna run jalen on first or second

[01:11:13] down get it second and six second and four i don't know why when they were up 28 22 and saquon ran the ball for about three yards or so and they were like second to seven maybe second to eight why you would call the bootleg and then take that big sack and end up being like third and 17 i'm like just just keep it simple like and i get that you you wanted to ice the game there

[01:11:39] you get that ball to goddard you get that ball to uh chair whatever the other uh titan's name is i don't know who was running that flag route but you get that roll out but you had your right-handed quarterback in the snow bootlegging to his left right you know and then he had to take the sack because he you know i don't care how many cleats you put in those georgie like he won he wasn't going to be able to shift in fresh slushy

[01:12:05] east coast yeah that stuff was coming if you if you roll if you run into the right like for some reason these offensive coordinators want to be so creative it's like dog this isn't a painting this is football like it doesn't need to be artsy and pretty and just like oh my god i want to hang this play in a museum it's like cool i got this 230 pound quarterback smart squat 600 pounds

[01:12:32] i got a a running back that makes men google over his quads just give him the ball up the middle behind this offensive line who all receive all pro votes like why am i doing anything cute these titans right cool put three of them in there have them block for one of these 200 pound runners i have like i don't know like i don't know why you needed to throw the ball like why'd you only do that just to look like

[01:13:00] you're being a more vent of like no i want to run the ball because when if jaylen carter doesn't swim the the center they lose that game staff was getting that ball in the end zone right and puka nicole were killing them on those last two drives and that's why the rams have no reason to hang their heads i was actually going to finish on that because you look at their roster you see a puka

[01:13:23] kairon williams jared verse braden fisk kobe turner you know they got omar spates at linebacker quentin lake cam kitchens and then you go they all under 25 yeah but do you have your 38 39 year old coach coming back with your well that's what i was about to bring up 738 that's what i was about to bring up that's the only thing you got to get the next quarterback right that's the that's the caveat

[01:13:50] to what i was saying but she's not gonna be there another what i give stafford like literally one more year i give stafford this week to make a decision i can like losing might make him want to keep going yeah but maybe he got to see how his body feels in the way yeah because he's had some

[01:14:17] injuries the last he's wearing that he's wearing that sleeve for he's been wearing that sleeve for last couple of years last off season going into the 2023 2024 season he was throwing a nerf ball because of his rehabbing from search so he's at practice throwing a nerf ball so it's like is he gonna andrew luck and be like listen i'm sick of doing this rehab stuff or is he gonna be like

[01:14:42] aaron rogers like listen i'm gonna die my shield i'm coming back uh but that also just probably also predicated on the coach like who who influences who does stafford go to mcveigh and say hey man i'm with i'm waiting for one more year if you are or if mcveigh's like listen man i'm waiting for one more year if you are you know and i know that you've brought that up is that mcveigh could be a surprise out of there you know just on his own accord because you know we know that he tried to do that

[01:15:09] one day when they won the school bowl all right chris okay you wilded out already i love it you know but of course taking it back to saturday night mr logical was out here on these social

[01:15:32] medias talking about and see my partner apologized for not picking his team to win i seen that shit yeah i ain't apologizing for nothing i ain't apologize yeah i ain't apologizing for nothing because look at the end of the day i was way too ecstatic to feel so somber you know because when i

[01:15:56] look at the detroit lions it was one of those things where it just ain't feel right you know like and you know there is something to be said for all the defensive injuries that they have but there was something to that right because we go back and we look at these teams in nfl history and you're like hey no way that 49er team from last year doesn't make the playoffs you know obviously

[01:16:23] injuries happen that's a whole nother story but here we are you know like because i was having a conversation with people earlier where they said john harbaugh get the ravers back to the super bowl and i said maybe maybe this ain't guaranteed you know they made it to the afc championship game last year the way they went out you know it ain't guaranteed you know we've seen teams all hit andrews in both hands going backwards and remember that you know yeah like you know that like these things happen

[01:16:53] these things happen over the course of a season and over a course of a career so these teams that were used to being here this could be the last year that we see this you know because are you predicting that this is this is the the beginning of detroit's demise i am not predicting that just yet okay but i heard it a couple times but but but i think we could see the i think we could see the rumblings of it

[01:17:18] you know like like with the nba right before the timberwolves made that dumbass trade you know we saw anthony edwards even though they lost last year he got humbled last year but it was one of those things if you are the type of person that believes you got to go through that and pay your dues and come back two years ago when he threw the chair and somebody tried to sue him for like 150 000 when he lost to the nuggets in the first round they came back but then his team boxed it by making

[01:17:47] this silly ass trade this year so detroit's in a unique position because they had so many injuries that there's probably not a lot of guys that can really leverage i don't know what everyone's contract situation was but i think i talked about this the other day too like we talked about the 49ers when they lost super bowl last year and we needed all the way through the super bowl

[01:18:14] so now all these contract negotiations these talks can run yeah like like just just as free agents they got uh tim patrick marcus davenport their right guard a defensive uh i can't say his name it was the work day or it was a rickay um dark barns carlton davis like all of them are free agents guys were

[01:18:36] already on ir right yeah carl davis so that's what i mean is like so you can look to well this guy went out week 12 and his replacement gave us this so like you know i know like in the baby they call it war like wins above replacement something like that so if they're looking at okay cardon davis was a free agent he went out week 12 or something like that and for the last six games you know we

[01:19:06] inserted this corner second year guy at a chattanooga state or something and he was able to give us pretty much what we got out of carl davis and we're paying him 712 000 so we'll keep him and not re-sign guys so it could be a situation where you found out that your replacements that you had on defense can take the next step but they can take that next step for less than you know less than a

[01:19:35] few million dollars each right and then you can bolster that offense so if your guard goes you can just grab a guard from another team but you know so i think they they have that because they have the coach in place they got the wide receiver in place they got the skill position guys are young i like the quarterback jerry golf just had a bad game was a couple throws he kind of forced but i believe he forced it because he feels like we can score with the best of them i just don't think

[01:20:01] they thought that washington was going to go for fourth downs that many times and be that effective like even i was watching because i was complaining about the fourth down against tampa i was uh i was watching the game and the stat came up they were they were 20 or 23 on the season and i was watching the game and ava was like every time they converted once she was like

[01:20:24] 20 of 24 21 24 she was like 22 or 25 she just kept repeating the stats right it was like i'm like it is crazy that those are like madden numbers and i think jared golf's mistakes were coming see how he gave me y'all i gave y'all that stat two weeks ago and he giving it to somebody else no it popped up on the screen during the game so when it popped up on it popped up on the screen during the game and she just kind of went with it but i was like looking at it like that's a crazy

[01:20:51] looking stat considering you know you watch so much football you know this is your right i watch my team i don't think atlanta's gone for 23 or 4 000 two years and they definitely haven't converted 20 out of 23 to be honest like it just doesn't it's not a thing that they right that they do um but yeah so i think that was the thing that surprised him was like how effective he was

[01:21:16] gonna be the one throw he threw to brown with like the defender's hand was over his face like over his face mask yeah and he caught it it was like this is like when that happened i was like okay this is a rat and then the interceptions and then ben johnson with the reverse to jameson williams like hey and remember like you saw that's what i put in the chat too i told you it was gonna be jameson williams soon as you said as soon as i saw the trick plays i was like i your voice popped in my head

[01:21:46] was like well it's dan campbell and the detroit lions they don't call those trick plays i'm like as long as they don't call trick plays like oh but that that option play was ill when when they kind of faked like a pitch or they gave it to the running back and then he gave it to jameson williams it was just like bro yeah how like yeah that's just creativity beyond all measures that's just speed on speed because like i gotta respect jameer gibbs

[01:22:15] going to the right as a linebacker so i'm i'm going hard to my left and then the ball gets another guy who's just as fast and just as diabolical in open field and then he did the the celebration was like bro you know it's like they grabbed him like he got two humps before they yeah but yeah i didn't

[01:22:40] like the being down 38 28 and calling that play because i was talking about it today at work i was like that's one of those situations where you have to tell the player if it's not their run that way because i think sometimes when you call a play the players want to make the play work so it's like we call this play if it's not there just take off because i think once he gets that ball

[01:23:08] the first thing he's thinking is it's not there and i'm gonna just take off i think i think that would come into his mind versus he's gonna be here throw it this way yeah yeah that was that was a terrible decision that's the first quarter call yeah and and that's why like i got into an argument earlier because i didn't blame ben johnson for the loss you know but what i wanted to ask you

[01:23:37] was even though they scored 31 points even though they had five over 500 total yards do you feel that ben johnson has some culpability in this loss no um i think eventually the was it the the roost the hands would have come home to roost or whatever they're saying um yeah the chickens come home to roost chickens come home to roost uh it's just too many you got the injuries and like i said

[01:24:07] you had you had a team playing with house money once washington started going for it on fourth down and i think jane dams probably was going to the sideline like listen this is what i'm seeing and then him and office coordinator dan quinn they were probably communicating like i'm seeing the same thing i'm seeing that we can't get they can't stop these routes because they ran they ran the one to brown

[01:24:36] was cross to the right then the other they ran another one from the right to left then there was the screen the scary terry and then the screen the scary terry and i and then they started hitting eckler out of the backfield like we're hitting all these deep shots so now let's hit this short stuff and it just it just was a like a perfect like combination it was like jab jab body blow

[01:25:04] right hook right it was like they were just you you the trait they're trained they were trained to do what they're doing but washington was just hitting them in spots that they weren't protecting every drive and then you come out your season's on the line you have 15 wins on the year number one seed you were up three possessions last year your coach is just probably he probably was going ape in

[01:25:29] the locker room um and then you come out and now you're and then jerry golf like a couple that interception where he got blocked i know people are saying that was a penalty i get it if he threw the pick and someone turned and and and they were like seeking him out to hit him but he was coming to make the tackle yeah i don't know how you're i don't know how the nfl and i understand the the the

[01:25:58] construct of he's defenseless but he's he's the last sign of defense if you don't block him granted i'm pretty sure he still scores but he's come like he's coming to make the tackle he's no different in my mind than the tight end coming to make the tackle and that right you know because like i said if he was on the other hash and the guy just blocked him into the ground drove him to the ground i can see i can understand like the letter of the law but once you're coming to make the tackle

[01:26:27] then i can just block you any kind of way i want granted that he put a little bit more ass into it because he knew it's jerry golf i mean i'm not trying to be like if a guy that if the other team doesn't have their most effective player then that increases our odds of winning right i'm not saying it was a dirty hit but i guarantee you it was like he didn't hold back no not at all and

[01:26:51] i don't want to hurt this guy yeah i'm trying to make the block all i saw was a blue jersey and i made the hit yeah and i saw washington just take advantage they did what some teams can't do which is take advantage of your mismatches they knew that the secondary was going to be the achilles heel attack it you know and then on the other side the reason i brought up ben johnson is because you know

[01:27:19] they still ran for 200 yards in this game so even if you take that you know um jameson williams touchdown out that was 62 yards they still had a pretty healthy rushing game you know so that's where sometimes you look at this and you're like hey look maybe we have to invert ourselves like we're the team that used to jump out nobody can stop us we play pinball now we're playing against this team

[01:27:45] that is doing that and we have the ability to run the ball maybe we need to put some other skin on for a second you know but these offensive coordinators want to get cute i don't think he called a bad game i think that james i think that the pass that trick play was just one too many the trick play that got him to touchdown i literally would have just ran that again just to see because i think that would

[01:28:14] have been more effective than the throw i would have run that same play going opposite direction because teams don't do that i also heard like maybe like rich eisen it was like maybe you don't use all your trick plays throughout the year because i said like i said that in a few games i'm like you guys are calling trick plays up 17. somebody watching that somewhere yeah save that like save these things

[01:28:40] where you got tight tackles coming in eligible and stuff like that so i don't think they think they can hold the rest of their head on it's just a matter of they blitz sam darnel in the minnesota game and it was effective right they they blitz cj stroud and forced him into a few mistakes as well they just couldn't get jayden into the mistake that they wanted because i just feel like they were

[01:29:09] they being the commanders they were just a step ahead on what they wanted to do like everything was quick it was this route okay this is what this is my one-on-one matchup i'm taking it oh this is my check down i'm a little texas route with the running back out of the backfield to austin eckler great you know great pass receiver i'm running the ball brian robinson you know many men wanting you know

[01:29:33] which step upon me um or just getting the ball to scary terry's like we talked about like we just talked about with philly aj brown just doesn't look happy it's like carlos carlos green pass for right call call a pass to where you're one you're one missed tackle one bad angle angle away from a touchdown because that should have been wrapped up because both both defenders that were getting

[01:29:58] blocked he jumped in between the two commanders players and the the trait players that were getting blocked so they read it properly is it they all took bad angles and one missed tackle and it was right so you know i just i just think that they were just on that i think they were on it they were comfortable even with the uh the fell fourth down attempt with marcus mariotta because robinson

[01:30:24] he went to go do the tush push and mariotta was looking to flip the ball back that didn't rattle them like james was on the side like oh yeah next time what you do cool art right yeah and that's the biggest thing like i remember right i had a girlfriend one time and she was so swagged out

[01:30:52] and like she made me feel like i was a different person like i was on top of the world like nothing could bring me down i was the coolest dude in the world that's the energy that jayden walks around with is like you know what it don't even matter like like we're gonna move on we're gonna do this because he has something but his comes intrinsically you know what i mean where it's inside of him and

[01:31:19] this is about that video that arizona state yeah locker room video i talked about it all through the draft process last year that video is if i'm a college coach or a high school coach i'm playing that video and then i'm showing what jane daniels did after that video to every one of my leaders of

[01:31:45] my football team maybe the whole team but definitely the leaders of the football team the guys who are going to carry the mantle for whatever my organization is i'm like look how this young man handled this i he probably was like 21 maybe yeah maybe maybe yeah if that you know like young i think it might have been around covet time so it's like very young man and to have like from what i

[01:32:10] can recall like at least four to five people in his space while he's trying to clean out his locker telling him he sucks yeah he goes i hear and wins the heisman second overall draft pick and now he's now he's a good game away from being his role he gave them that jolt i guess you know i don't want to you know do the hyperbole thing but i would imagine it's sort of similar to irvin magic johnson going into

[01:32:38] la and just that charm that personality that we will almost like deon in a lot of ways like that not like we strive to or you we're gonna try our best it's like you know what this is the goal we're gonna do it so jay daniel randy moss in new england new england was a successful organization randy moss changed how they operated going for how randy moss changed how tom brady played football

[01:33:05] after that tom brady never played football the same way after he had randy moss in the locker room for those those two or three years yeah right and his numbers went he's i think it's like 100 000 passing yards now he probably was on pace 60 65 like if you if you look at some of tom brady's old numbers those years they were in super bowls i think he was he was throwing like 26 27 touchdowns

[01:33:30] nine picks 28 and 11 like and then he gets randy moss and it's 50 touchdowns he was like oh this is how it feels great but having this guy in the room is like oh now i can this guy here i could put some five eight guys over here and get them open and still do it over here and he never looked back he never looked back he constantly looked for guys who are that dynamic gronk aaron hernandez it's like

[01:33:59] something about having these kind of guys in the locker room and dan quinn i think dan quinn going the ups and downs you know we're going to talk about the 28 to 3 um how it fell apart essentially his last game in dallas but if you look at it the totality of his if his coaching career as a defensive coordinator it wasn't great defensively watching for like this past season right but something about what he does and what he instills and i and i remember as you know as obviously as a falcons fan

[01:34:28] i remember the game with the super bowl around like week 10 i think they there was reports that he basically kind of like just dumbed down and scrapped most defensive playbook and simply said go do what you do you're fast you tackle run to the ball all of you you hit hard you run to the ball you hold them up you try and knock it out and you hit them hard that's why they called they look

[01:34:55] jared blunt doesn't fumble ripped it right out of his hand in the super bowl because he was like all of this other stuff is cool you run fast you're a fast linebacker you're undersized but you run you tackle well get to the ball when we run nickel all right keanu you come down in the box i want you hitting people hard rico you control the back end right got it good and then they would they were up 20

[01:35:18] 28 to 3. alfred on that interception came off of his route that he was covering instinctively like yo that's when the coach tells you just go play ball he was looking he came off his route picked that picked six they go up 21 to 3 but i think that's what dan quinn does i'm you know like i said i it's gonna be hard making my decision for who's gonna win uh this game this weekend but

[01:35:45] honestly i'm liking short of like just sirianni which like i said he's probably a good coach i'm what he's probably on my sean payton level like i don't really fuck with you but i gotta admit that you're good at what you do so someone's showing me the signal i guess i'll show this signal yeah dean quinn decision ain't hard for me but we'll get to that on friday ladies and gentlemen

[01:36:12] he is mr logical do not bring feelings to where he brought notre dame in ohio state last night gotta say true to my logic we will have picks for you we will have around the association college football really over i saw it already 214 days until the first game

[01:36:40] oh real quick just illogical did you see who the uh favorite to win the national title is next year ohio state did you see who number two is georgia archie yes it's time for the next edition of the overrated manny we love you see you in a few days peace