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[00:00:38] Temple World to get rid of the champs. Don't bring fear into a fact fight. He is Mr. Logic.
[00:00:51] And while we giving him his props, we ain't gonna act like I ain't say Dallas and six.
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[00:01:33] So Mr. Logic, you know, saying I wanted to talk about it.
[00:01:43] You know, unfortunately, Kendrick Perkins beat me to the punch.
[00:01:47] I was thinking about this when I woke up this morning and then I was sitting at my desk
[00:01:52] and I got on Twitter and he said not verbatim but he said a lot of where I wanted to go.
[00:01:59] So over the last couple of years, I can't deny there has been a lot of anonymity in the NBA draft.
[00:02:11] You know, a lot of players that we have no background on. Even myself as the college guy.
[00:02:19] I know names. I know who Ron Holland is. But I ain't seen him play. You know, saying I know
[00:02:28] the name Alexander Saar. I know Zachary Rosace. You know, I know these names. I know that
[00:02:36] the two Frenchmen are going to go one and two in the draft more than likely.
[00:02:41] But a lot of people don't have that knowledge. So part of why we don't have that knowledge
[00:02:48] that we talked about last year is because we grew up watching people like Jamal Mashburn,
[00:02:53] Grant Hill playing multiple years in college. We got to grow up with them so when they came
[00:02:59] to the NBA we were all aboard. Now you got these players coming in after one year
[00:03:06] non-descript. So to fill in those gaps, a lot of people rely on entities like ESPN,
[00:03:16] Fox, CBS to give us background on these players. But they just want to talk about
[00:03:25] LeBron James Jr., the dude that nicknamed himself after a paper towel because he didn't
[00:03:33] want to have his daddy's name. And we don't even know if he's going to get drafted or
[00:03:40] not. Scouts are saying that he didn't look ready. He had flashes. You know, he hit 19 out
[00:03:46] of 25 from three with nobody in his face. You know, he jumped 40 and a half inches,
[00:03:53] which was second or third best in the combine. But I saw Hakeem Wark and Stroll Mile Swift
[00:03:59] jump a lot too. You know what I mean? But we're focusing on is Team X going to draft him
[00:04:08] so they could get his daddy. And we're not talking about Kai Simpson. We're not talking
[00:04:13] about Cody Williams. You know what I'm saying? We're not talking about some of these basketball
[00:04:20] players that even went to universities like Duke. We're not talking about McCain because it's
[00:04:26] all about Bronte. And then people are going to sit up here. These guys are going to get
[00:04:33] drafted in the top 15. Nobody's going to know who they are. And we're just going to be
[00:04:40] sitting there draft night to see if Paper Towel got drafted or not.
[00:04:49] They keep calling this young man Paper Towel though. That's hilarious.
[00:04:52] You know what I'm saying? I don't know what people want because like people like me,
[00:05:00] we say what we say because we feel what we feel. Other people say the same things that I
[00:05:05] say. But they still watch the nonstop coverage while complaining about it. The difference is,
[00:05:15] is that I stand on my square and I'll watch that shit.
[00:05:21] Started on show.
[00:05:22] I go research about these other players.
[00:05:26] Literally started on the show because of it. Yeah.
[00:05:28] You know, just like, just like Donovan Klingon, right? From Yukon. You remember the big man
[00:05:32] from Yukon. Everybody was talking about how athletic he is, how he's going to change the
[00:05:37] game defensively. You know what happened at the combine? Zach Eady performed better athletically,
[00:05:45] but Donovan Klingon is a top five, top seven pick. And they say is that he might be a
[00:05:50] second rounder. That could be a conversation. Yeah. We talked, we had this conversation before.
[00:05:59] Like, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, Zach Eady only won back to back.
[00:06:04] National player of the year, you know? Yeah. He swept most of the player of the year awards
[00:06:08] for two years. Right. But we're talking about whether the Atlanta Hawks are going to take
[00:06:12] paper towel at number one so they can try to get his daddy when we know that ain't going
[00:06:17] to happen. Wait, hold on. Someone actually said on a TV show that someone's Atlantic should
[00:06:22] take Bronnie number one to get LeBron. Yes. They've been talking about how the Utah Jazz
[00:06:28] might throw their hat into the paper towel sweet states so that they can try to get LeBron.
[00:06:34] LeBron is not going to any of these. He's not leaving LA. Like there's no,
[00:06:42] for someone who is over 40, I'm not moving unless I get a really, really, really, really good job.
[00:06:53] But I'm not moving just so I can work with Mike. I'm not moving to San Antonio just so
[00:06:58] me and Mike could work in the same office because what if he gets another job? It's like
[00:07:03] that's not how it works. And I don't think that they really think they could just do something
[00:07:09] as simple as drafting Bronnie and LeBron is going to come running. Like when is he going
[00:07:14] to come? He's about to sign like a three-year extension in LA. So you're going to get him at
[00:07:19] 42 or maybe at 41. I'm pretty sure he's going to have a no trade clause. Even if he doesn't
[00:07:27] now, I'm pretty sure he'll put one in or he'll have the leverage to say,
[00:07:30] I'm not going to go here. Or if you try to trade me, I'm a retired, he doesn't want to
[00:07:35] go out unceremoniously and you wouldn't want to be the organization that made him do it.
[00:07:40] But all it is is another guy's so we can talk about his dad because his dad ain't in the
[00:07:48] playoffs anymore. And like a lot of this is centered on that because Scottie Pippen got
[00:07:55] a son in the league that averaged 12.9 points this season on an NBA roster. And I ain't heard
[00:08:02] nothing about him. He averaged 20 points in college, whereas no knock to Bronnie because
[00:08:09] he had the condition. So much respect to him for even stepping on the court this year.
[00:08:15] But in the end we're talking about a guy that barely averaged five points and that's me
[00:08:19] rounding up. You know what I mean? So like, what are we doing? The reason why people don't,
[00:08:26] one of the reasons that people don't know who a lot of these players are
[00:08:32] is because the media is fixated to talk about this one person.
[00:08:37] Yeah, that's because the media is selling you something. Exactly. We're like,
[00:08:43] we can have these conversations in group chats. We can have them on the show. You
[00:08:47] can have them on other podcasts where guys like us have their own personal podcast with
[00:08:52] their group of friends. You can kind of talk about whatever you want, but for some reason
[00:08:57] television seems to be short sighted to the point where they want click beat. So they'll
[00:09:04] talk about like the whole NFL NBA player thing that's been on like multiple shows and multiple
[00:09:11] clips. And I think Austin Rivers went live a couple of times to go after someone who said,
[00:09:18] and like this is a conversation. It's not even a real conversation. There's no merit to it.
[00:09:23] There's no barren. There's no bounce. There's no logic to the conversation.
[00:09:27] It's just random banter. Well, because it moved the needle for 72 hours, that's the
[00:09:35] conversation. Klingon is Zach Edie's athleticism doesn't move the TV needle. You and I will talk
[00:09:42] about it. I'll talk about why can't the guy who was the best player in college basketball,
[00:09:47] which is the essentially the minor league to the NBA, the pipeline to the NBA. So the
[00:09:53] best guy in your pipeline for two years can't get a job and the league doesn't make any
[00:09:59] sense. If there was a guy on a minor league hitting 50 home runs a year, but he wasn't
[00:10:04] fast. He's like, yeah, but he's hitting 50 home runs. You don't need to be fast. If you hit
[00:10:08] 50 home runs, come over here and hit 35. Like I don't need you to steal bases. I need you to
[00:10:14] hit Zach Edie. I don't need you to defend a D on the perimeter. You'll just defend the other
[00:10:20] guy on the block. You can defend Rody Gobert. You could be Rude Gobert. You know, like
[00:10:24] there's the, you have to figure out other ways, but that conversation is doesn't move
[00:10:28] the needle the way a Bronte conversation does. Because like you said, you could just,
[00:10:32] you can lump in LeBron, you can lump in LA, you can lump in championships. You can lump in Jordan.
[00:10:38] You can lump in, you know, just all the, the, the popular headline names of the sport.
[00:10:45] Whereas if you talk about Reed Shepherd out of Kentucky, you only can talk about him
[00:10:52] and maybe you could talk about Calipari or you can talk about the fact that they have two guys
[00:10:57] that are projected to go in the top four and they lost in the first round. That's
[00:11:01] conversation you and I would have, but I don't know a perk and Stephen A Smith
[00:11:05] and Shannon Sharpe are having that conversation if Perk is invited on first take because it just
[00:11:10] doesn't, it just doesn't move the needle. Like you said, Perk beat you to this point
[00:11:15] because that conversation moves the needle even though there is an NBA playoff going
[00:11:19] on right now. That's dope. It's probably one of the best playoff runs we've seen
[00:11:24] in recent history where we don't know who's going to win it. Yeah. One of these new stars
[00:11:30] about to get a title. Yeah. One of these teams are, you know, Boston might get their 18th ring,
[00:11:36] but this group of stars about to get their first one, you know, so that, that conversation
[00:11:43] requires a little bit more research, a little bit more intrinsic buy-in to the conversation.
[00:11:49] Whereas a conversation about Bronte is just all you're seeing. You guys kind of say,
[00:11:53] well, I just figure ESPN has a significant college basketball contract. So I would figure
[00:12:02] that will give you a chance to focus on one of your entities,
[00:12:07] you know, as they, as these players move on to the NBA. I mean, you know, like, so,
[00:12:13] you know, just like we talk about how the WNBA and women's basketball in general is
[00:12:18] deserving of more attention, you know, like it behooves you potentially,
[00:12:24] you know, to talk about some of this stuff because you own those contracts too.
[00:12:29] Yeah. But the WNBA, they already do it properly. The women's national championship game
[00:12:35] was April. The NBA draft was, I think that the WNBA draft was like that Friday.
[00:12:42] They started pre-season games two weeks later and they're already playing regular season games.
[00:12:49] So they capitalize on like the buzz in a positive way. They didn't, they didn't have
[00:12:54] to generate it was like Caitlin Clark is as iconic, Angel Reese national championship, iconic
[00:13:00] Cameron Brink with the Stanford, a big school Cardoza out of South Carolina won a national
[00:13:05] championship. So it was like, they are capitalized on this. They're moving games
[00:13:10] from 4,000 seat arenas to 17,000 seats and they're selling them out. They outsold the
[00:13:14] Indiana Fever, outsold the Pacers and a playoff run against the Knicks. So they're properly
[00:13:20] capitalizing on it. But the conversation, the ESPNB can have conversations about that.
[00:13:28] We're kind of getting this information through memes and the fact that we're having these
[00:13:31] conversations in our groups, but I don't see many segments on a lot of these shows that
[00:13:36] talk about strictly the impact of having this new wave of popular player. Whereas I think
[00:13:43] Brownie is, they're trying to mold him into that. They're trying to mold the conversation
[00:13:47] around him into this Caitlin Clark as kind of Angel Reese as kind of impact. And it might
[00:13:56] not be the case. So they're just kind of going vicariously through Brownie to get
[00:14:00] to LeBron to generate this conversation. Ultimately, I think he should be on an NBA roster
[00:14:05] considering that if you look at some of the guys who are getting minutes and there's 15 dudes on
[00:14:12] most of these benches any given night, so many guys are injured. There's no reason why he can't
[00:14:17] fill in and use athleticism. And if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.
[00:14:23] I mean, I know Clutch and his daddy don't want to consider this, but that's what your
[00:14:29] two-way contract is for. Yeah, and whatever contract he gets on, he'll get his stumas on
[00:14:38] and he'll just stay on the roster. Whatever roster that is, he'll stay on it because
[00:14:43] you don't want to be the GM that sends Brownie down. And then maybe that's one thing that
[00:14:50] people don't want to get involved with. You send Brownie down to the G League or you cut
[00:14:54] him and now you can't get any Clutch athletes, you or any of your friends.
[00:15:03] Pay for play, baby. Pay for play. A lot of people have been using that leverage
[00:15:08] for a long time. I'm glad that there's potential and opportunity, but like I said, give them a
[00:15:13] shot. Right. So as I mentioned in the intro, Mr. Logical said that the Timberwolves was
[00:15:20] going to pull this off. I was a little late to the party. I held on to Denver and Seven,
[00:15:26] felt pretty good as they were up by 20 last night. And then Minnesota said, no mas.
[00:15:40] It was a strength. I know we talk about gambling and everything else.
[00:15:46] I don't know. It looked like Denver forgot how much time was left in the game.
[00:15:52] Like they thought it was like they thought when it went up 20, it was like that point
[00:15:56] threshold from an all star game. Like, yo, when we get to 80 points, whoever got the most
[00:16:01] points combined 80 because it just seemed like Jamal Murray just disappeared. I don't think he
[00:16:07] went to the bench. I know Yoki said they kept mentioning it over and over and over. Reggie
[00:16:11] Miller kept saying over and over in the podcast that he only rested for one minute
[00:16:15] and he played the whole second half. I don't know why they didn't get him a break.
[00:16:20] Like I text you once they got up 20, I'm sitting them down because unless you're really
[00:16:27] trying to blow them out because it looked like Minnesota was in that way because they had 38
[00:16:31] points in the second half. Like this was like early in the third, the score was 58 38. It was
[00:16:36] like that's that's what Indiana had in the first quarter. I guess the mix so it was like
[00:16:42] maybe he thought he could stretch it to 30, 24, 26, maybe 30 and then start kind of pulling guys
[00:16:51] and then they got the 15 and then cat hit a three, got it to 12 and when he got down
[00:16:56] to 12, it was too late. You couldn't take your kids out and get them a breather
[00:17:00] and then they just kept trapping them and then Yoke started playing a little bit more
[00:17:04] aggressive, especially in the fourth and I was noticing like certain possessions like
[00:17:10] when Rudy Gobert hit that fall away. Yeah, you knew it was over. When that went in,
[00:17:15] I was like, it reminded me of that three that Yoke chid over AD last year. Oh yeah,
[00:17:21] when he was at the end of the quarter. Yeah, like what am I going to do? So when
[00:17:25] that went in, I put my Pinot Grigio down, I stood up and applauded. I was like these dudes
[00:17:29] really just came back. But yeah, Yoke is looking gassed. Yeah, I knew it was over.
[00:17:36] Once Minnesota, I think Anthony Edwards hit a three. Made it 67, 66. No, no, no before that.
[00:17:44] It was still third quarter. I want to say the three made it 61 to 57. It was nearing
[00:17:50] the end of the third and I was just like, oh this is over because like you said,
[00:17:56] Yoke has just had that look because it's not even about being tired as far as like
[00:18:01] he's out of shape or he's fatigued or it but him and Jamal Murray were doing a lot of lifting
[00:18:07] last night. So there's 70 points, but I think that's 69 or 70. Yeah, so they had 69.
[00:18:14] Denver scored 90 points. Jamal Murray, Yoke chid had 69 of that. They took 55 shots.
[00:18:23] The rest of the nuggets combined took 28 shots. Aaron Gordon only took five shots.
[00:18:30] So I don't know if the game plan was just y'all are you guys are stars bring it home,
[00:18:39] but there came a point where Michael Porter can you hit a shot?
[00:18:45] He was I was calling his shot off all night. Like every time he put one up,
[00:18:50] I was watching on TV and I was like, like if this doesn't go in because he had some old
[00:18:55] wide open looks and when those didn't drop, I was like, okay, Minnesota has a chance,
[00:19:01] but this is early in the game, you know, 12, 10, 13, you know, early in the game,
[00:19:06] but his shot wasn't falling like, okay, well Minnesota going to run and then and his
[00:19:11] shot wasn't falling. And then when the lead started expanding, I was like, these dudes
[00:19:15] really blew a two oh series lead. They bought the lose and seven and then like I said,
[00:19:22] no one else could do anything. Like I said, you mentioned it before like you had concerns about
[00:19:30] their bench and my concern was from the Lakers series was that they were behind
[00:19:38] Ford's seven out of 10, you know, yeah. And I think that plays into the fatigue because
[00:19:43] they were coming back from 20 down multiple times. They had to play a shorter rotation.
[00:19:50] They couldn't get anybody in and they were just winning games off Jamal Murray. Like he won two
[00:19:55] games at the buzzer, but they played the whole game. And like I said, in game seven, like I
[00:20:04] said, I don't think he was like gas because he was out of shape is just that they put
[00:20:10] when they had go bear defending them, even though he was killing them, it's still a big
[00:20:16] body. You got to push around a go bear. Go bears like people make it seem like these NBA
[00:20:20] players, like I said, I talk about all the time. I've never been NBA quality level athleticism
[00:20:25] whatsoever, but this dude's seven foot two, 200 something pounds. And now Yokes has to lug
[00:20:31] his six 11 seven foot frame up and down the court and then run it into multiple guys who
[00:20:37] were six 10 to seven foot one seven two that weighs on you. Even if he's making the shots,
[00:20:44] it's like they're running right back at him. So he can't even like, and then like I said,
[00:20:48] then he wasn't getting any breaks. There was way less challenges in this game. So I like that.
[00:20:52] So it wasn't a lot of those intermittent breaks where you guys would get in a two,
[00:20:56] three minute break because they were challenged and stuff a lot. So I think he just was out
[00:21:00] there gas. I don't know if Jamal Murray, I'm trying to think if he made any kind of
[00:21:07] impact plays in the third and fourth, and I don't recall he made negative impact plays
[00:21:12] because off the top of my head, I can think of three plays where he just straight up got stripped.
[00:21:18] Yeah, he got stripped. He got stripped because I think he went six for 24. He did three
[00:21:25] right. We didn't play off game is go six to 24. Shout out the Kobe being Brian game seven
[00:21:30] against the Celtics pass about our test. Cat was playing like it just it felt as if
[00:21:38] the depth and the rotations that Minnesota was putting on the floor. Those guys just felt like,
[00:21:46] yo, the ball in my hand is my moment. Nas read was getting that pass on the corner.
[00:21:51] This is my moment. He's open at the top of the key. This is my moment.
[00:21:57] What's the what's the other guy McDaniels McDaniels McDaniels like he was taking it to
[00:22:02] Jamal Murray because I think Jamal Murray is like six to 63.
[00:22:08] I don't need 64 but I don't believe it.
[00:22:10] Yeah, so I think if you are a 6465 guy and you know you got a little bit of size on him
[00:22:16] because I noticed that happened back in the bubble in the Utah series.
[00:22:20] Like they started kind of just going at it just he still has a great score but
[00:22:24] he might not be that big and kind of wear him down. I don't know how much the calf
[00:22:28] effect them. He still was playing with the sleeve but he scored big in the first half.
[00:22:33] Minnesota I don't know if they did anything different defensively in a second. It just
[00:22:36] felt as if the ball was just going through Jokic and then as they were getting closer
[00:22:43] like you said that 6157. Yeah, I was thinking like if they get a stop
[00:22:49] and they can get this to two if they can get this to one possession. I kept thinking
[00:22:53] like if they get this one possession game is like I was watching like I didn't leave my TV.
[00:22:57] I was sitting at the whole time. I'm like am I missing something? Like how did this happen?
[00:23:02] I don't remember a barrage of threes. I don't remember a bunch of turnovers.
[00:23:08] That's what it was they were stripping Jamal Murray. They stripped Jamal Murray.
[00:23:11] They stripped Jokic at the top. I think that was more than a fourth.
[00:23:15] It would got me about it was Jokic took literally 10 three-pointers.
[00:23:22] So chalk that up to fatigue probably you know or just not wanting to bang
[00:23:28] like I think we were trying to do he I felt like he started taking those threes
[00:23:35] when the lead got cut because I saw one possession because Jokic like I said you
[00:23:40] can't speed him up. That's one of the things we talked about like why he's so great at what
[00:23:43] he does like you can't speed him up right that that when it was like 60 I think cat
[00:23:49] like cat went and hit the three to make it 67 66 and I believe early in a fourth
[00:23:55] when it was going back and forth Jokic got the ball on like the right wing
[00:24:02] and immediately went into like a hard power dribble shoulder in the cat like he just
[00:24:10] he just got really aggressive for like four or five possessions in a row and I'm like okay
[00:24:15] he's he's feeling I gotta press not necessarily press recklessly but I gotta be more aggressive
[00:24:22] like you know so like like Luca when there's a certain pressure that comes with being the
[00:24:26] champion as well game seven was on your home floor it just it looked it looked like he was
[00:24:32] like I he's like it looked you know like that last lap or your PT test yeah like you get the
[00:24:38] time and you know you probably could have been running this hard the whole time but like
[00:24:42] this your last lap you just you you you extend it you just run a little harder it felt
[00:24:48] like he did that early in the fourth but Minnesota's defense they let them be a little
[00:24:55] handsy they were getting a lot of strips they would get a lot of steals I think at one point
[00:24:59] Denver had like 10 possessions in a row with like missed shots or either turnovers or missed
[00:25:06] shots like 10 in a row at one point in the third quarter they were three for 14 you know
[00:25:12] um not only that but I think that Minnesota just they just had more legs they just like you said
[00:25:21] they played more players so therefore Denver had to work extra hard and then Jokic is already a
[00:25:28] lumbering dude to begin with he's not some athletic freak so you know those miles add up
[00:25:34] I think you know what I mean but that's no excuse Minnesota just flat out beat them
[00:25:39] you know and but what I was concerned about or what I was thinking about was coming into the
[00:25:45] playoffs or a little bit earlier this season Denver was talking about Peyton Watson and how
[00:25:52] Bruce Brown wasn't going to be as big a loss as everybody thought he was going to be because
[00:25:57] of Peyton Watson and I'm like at the very least Peyton Watson gives you something different
[00:26:04] because Minnesota's one of Minnesota's advantages was their athleticism they don't have anybody
[00:26:10] outside Denver doesn't have anybody outside of Aaron Gordon and Christian Brown that play
[00:26:15] regularly that have some form of athleticism you know everybody else are a mismatch strictly
[00:26:22] because of the athleticism right everybody else is either a good shooter they come off screens
[00:26:27] they get handoffs from Jokic they create angles you know but none of them blow you
[00:26:32] away with their speed or anything like that so Peyton Watson is the one dude on the roster
[00:26:37] that can actually jump out the gym I think they don't have just Justin Holiday one of
[00:26:42] the holiday brothers yeah they got just a holiday yeah I don't like listen I've never
[00:26:47] claimed to be a great coach I mean I do talk a lot saying I would be a coach I think at some
[00:26:52] point you gotta just you gotta roster trust them exactly like the owners like I'm cutting
[00:27:00] checks for all of these dudes you put them out there game one you put them out there game two
[00:27:05] you put them out there game four why who I'm trying to think like who do they put on the
[00:27:12] floor for Jokic I'm like I'm really they usually just move Aaron Gordon over because
[00:27:19] the backup is Deandre Jordan yeah you're not gonna put him out there yeah I mean but you
[00:27:23] could you don't say he's he's got 18 fouls and that was the other problem was Denver put
[00:27:29] Minnesota in the bonus with eight and a half minutes left in the game because I think
[00:27:34] guys were tired they were tired yeah you're tired you make you don't slide your feet Jokic
[00:27:39] had a couple of bad files he was like yeah like I said he was defending I think he was
[00:27:44] defending Go Bear 30 feet from the rim why and then Go Bear went around him and he grabbed
[00:27:52] them I'm like let him go to the hoop I'd rather him go to the hoop and try to float it or dunk it
[00:28:00] versus you grab it because he grabbed Jokic Jokic reached for him and grabbed him at like
[00:28:06] outside the three-point line like Rudy had a couple of dribbles so I'm like man let him
[00:28:11] go to the paint and see if he can get over Aaron Gordon or control the ball in the air
[00:28:18] somebody over and try to strip him or something at the very end like two guys jumped into the
[00:28:22] paint I can't remember which two guys that were but I'm pretty sure it was like Aaron Gordon
[00:28:26] and maybe like KCP but there were guys that were gonna meet him in the paint not at the
[00:28:31] rim but like they would have met him at the free throw line because he was at the three
[00:28:35] point line dribbling ball like you don't want Rudy Go Bear dribbling the ball from the three
[00:28:38] point let him go and it just was like that tired I blew this defense because he ran out so
[00:28:44] aggressively that he just reached out and grabbed him but yeah Minnesota took it like they
[00:28:49] wouldn't do it and I want to give credit I want to give credit to Tim Connolly you know the
[00:28:54] GM for the timber wolves because if we remember he's the one that put the nuggets together in
[00:29:00] the first place and now he put together Voltron to take the nuggets out and here we are
[00:29:08] shout out to Mike Conley though like yeah Mike Conley hit a three he hit one of those
[00:29:14] the Flater threes it was very it was akin to the Go Bear fatal when because he's left-handed
[00:29:23] so he pump faked and like it's kind of wiggled to the side and like shot a like little left-handed
[00:29:30] three and that went in and you could just feel you can see like some of the air that comes
[00:29:35] the arena yeah it felt it looked like that uh it felt like dirt fisher 0.4 yeah you know
[00:29:42] that's what it felt like you know saying but then on Saturday night you know I told everybody
[00:29:52] okay see was going down in six it should have been five but you know saying I'll take what I
[00:29:58] can get you know the math's come through and this was my takeaway let me know how you feel
[00:30:03] about this all right I think we saw the difference between Luca and SGA so SGA had
[00:30:11] the better series like just looking at numbers you know how many points he scored all that good
[00:30:16] stuff but I think the difference is I saw SGA can always get SGA going but the team wasn't
[00:30:29] necessarily feeding off of his action whereas the Mavericks sometimes just fed off of Lucas
[00:30:36] presence but I think that's how you have to play when you play with Luca I think that's
[00:30:42] I think that's the difference when you're okay see they were so young they were playing fast
[00:30:47] they were playing deep I think those guys were just so used to the ball moving around
[00:30:53] and getting them shots not necessarily getting their energy vicariously through SGA I think they
[00:31:00] were just getting their energy through good basketball they just weren't like it just was
[00:31:06] a couple of games where they weren't knocking down shots like the game game four that they
[00:31:11] won they started off it was like one for ten or something like that I think they missed like
[00:31:17] eight or nine in a row but I think their 10th three they made so game two is the same way game
[00:31:23] one okay see when they routed Dallas it was because that ball was moving and everybody
[00:31:30] was in Isaiah Joe both Jalen Williams and their Dort was hitting threes Chet was hitting
[00:31:35] threes Gidey was on the floor doing his thing obviously SGA was getting points so
[00:31:40] everybody was just kind of feeling it was their home game but then game two when the shot wasn't
[00:31:45] falling I don't think their game plan is let's work the offense through Shay versus Shay B in
[00:31:54] the office where Dallas the offense always works through Luca whether they score 90 points or 119
[00:32:02] points it goes through Luca even Kyrie kind of plays that role like if Luca's having an off
[00:32:09] night like he was having an LA series a couple times then Kyrie knows to do he does the same
[00:32:15] thing as Luca where he's not a traditional point guard he just draws attention you got to be
[00:32:21] ready to shoot so they're just two versions of the same player just different sizes so if
[00:32:26] Luca's on the floor and he's not effective Kyrie can do the same thing so PJ Washington
[00:32:33] can stand in that same corner when Kyrie has the ball as when Luca has the ball I think that's
[00:32:38] the difference so you know I've got to ask right if you're a referee you making that call
[00:32:46] I was out because I was like out all weekend just kind of just doing family stuff so I missed
[00:32:50] it but I saw the replay and as soon as I saw it I thought about what you would say
[00:32:56] if I said you can't make that call but if it was the reverse where I think just just to
[00:33:07] keep it simple just just to stay true to my logic you got to make the call SGA you can't go for the
[00:33:16] block you can't risk it just jump like the the boy you should do for Boston uh Cornett when he
[00:33:22] just jumped both arms straight in the air so he didn't foul he just you just got you you
[00:33:27] you can't you can't risk a foul if he hits that shot let him hit it get your hands in his
[00:33:34] face scream at him yell something at him make a buzzer sound like it's a shot clock whatever you
[00:33:42] got to do don't land in his space don't hit his arm like it just you sometimes you gotta
[00:33:50] you gotta live and die with it I don't like referees making those kind of calls but if I
[00:33:57] was if I was a fan of either team and it was either way if somebody foul SGA on the other end
[00:34:04] I'd want it called so if he filed PJ Washington then I want to call all the same I know I'm
[00:34:12] hoping referees don't want to be a part of the game but sometimes it's like that like my son had
[00:34:19] a youth basketball like a their freshman basketball game their last game the score was
[00:34:25] they were up two other team got the ball shot at three missed it scrambled for the rebound
[00:34:32] their big man got the rebound puts it up whistle buzzer was simultaneous so our kids think the
[00:34:42] game is over they go high five in the ref is like no he got a foul so now he puts this young
[00:34:48] man on the free throw line by himself he got knocked down he's two free throws he just missed
[00:34:52] like two in a row before and he missed the first one so obviously the game's over because
[00:34:58] you know you can't get any more points but it's like in that scramble session you call a foul
[00:35:04] with as the buzzer is going off that's a little whack but that's youth basketball that's freshman
[00:35:10] basketball in the eba you you can't put yourself in position where the rest can
[00:35:16] impact the game like that so where does okay see go from here you know because I was
[00:35:20] looking at it and you know uh Gordon Hayward you know played 15 minutes the whole series
[00:35:28] so you know uh Cameron Williams same thing um Gordon Hayward's a free agent though so
[00:35:35] nothing to worry about there but I know but I know at the trade deadline there were some
[00:35:40] people thinking I wasn't one of those people but there were some people thinking that okay
[00:35:45] see should have went out and got lorry marketing now while I do think that he's a perfect fit for
[00:35:50] okay see I think that okay see had to see what was going on check the temperature
[00:35:57] I don't think you need to overreact yeah I don't think they need to do much uh I think
[00:36:03] one player that might be tantalizing on open market I don't know his contract situation I
[00:36:09] think Josh Giddy I think he kind of showed in this series that he might be a bit expendable
[00:36:17] not because I think he played poorly I just think that other guys can do what he does
[00:36:27] and I'm not sure how much better he gets I know he had a he had a rough
[00:36:30] shooting too while doing it yeah he I know you had a rough year a lot of personal things
[00:36:35] going on but I mean if you if there is a team if there's a team that's willing to make a move
[00:36:44] with you I think that's probably the only piece obviously gonna let Gordon Hayward go
[00:36:48] that was a good little midseason acquisition yeah let them come off the books yeah he's gonna go
[00:36:54] um but yeah Josh Gage probably the only guy I could think if you ran it back with the same
[00:36:59] squad I wouldn't be like appalled I don't think teams need to just dismantle because you lose
[00:37:06] like I think Denver Denver might be one of those teams that just never might need to get some
[00:37:10] players for the bench might need a Gordon Hayward a Gordon Hayward might be a good guy for them
[00:37:16] unless I don't know how much his age has impacted him uh but a guy like that or even
[00:37:20] like a Laurie Markner if they can make a move like that but I think okay see he can just
[00:37:25] do what Minnesota did take your loss regroup come back a meter number one seed you just ran into
[00:37:34] a matchup problem you know and that's just like I said it's the same thing happened with
[00:37:39] Denver's it's like yeah you had the 20 point collapse and some guys didn't perform and there's
[00:37:44] reasons for like you said we talk about the bench but sometimes it's just a matter of like
[00:37:49] you just ran up against a team that you know for two games to get up to get up to one
[00:37:57] yeah that was just like they had like two very good back-to-back games and they figured
[00:38:02] something out and then the rest of the series was a battle that you just came on short I mean
[00:38:06] by a point yeah here's here's my moment I've always wanted to say this
[00:38:12] Denver just ran into a buzzsaw oh god yes I've always wanted to say that but but
[00:38:17] something that I felt interested about this okay see Dallas series right
[00:38:22] total points in the series Dallas 636 okay see 636 it was that close yeah it was that close so
[00:38:32] okay see has no reason to hang their head they have no reason to overreact you know they have
[00:38:38] the coach I think you know they have the star you got the coach you got the MVP you have you
[00:38:45] have a like your support your role that you wrote your support you got the supporting cast
[00:38:54] you got the defender just don't go do anything crazy like bringing in somebody like Kevin
[00:39:00] Durant or trying to bring Russ back or trying to bring like like Paul or like Pat Bev or
[00:39:09] something like that like right now keep your team young let them grow together
[00:39:13] and take your lumps like we see what it's like it's not to get it this far in the playoffs like
[00:39:20] I said they were the youngest team in NBA history to win a second round playoff game
[00:39:26] and they were they were a few possessions realistically from the momentum shifting in
[00:39:31] game more game two because I think they they they clawed their way back in game two even
[00:39:36] they were still shooting poorly and then Luca kind of caught fire and Kyrie started giving
[00:39:40] a little bit of points but they could have easily gone into Dallas up two oh you know so there'd
[00:39:46] have been a different position let's see if they were like like I said we talked about this last
[00:39:50] week I don't think their youth came out via mistakes I think it just I think it just
[00:39:59] their youthful team that lost I don't think they were a youthful team it wasn't like silly
[00:40:04] technical files it wasn't uh flagrants it wasn't uh just bad they didn't get blown out they didn't
[00:40:12] get blown off the floor in every loss so I think they were just a young team that lost to a
[00:40:19] little a team with a little bit more experience I don't think their youth was the reason that
[00:40:23] they lost so pushing it forward Western Conference Finals who you got I got Minnesota in six
[00:40:33] okay uh I would I don't say I'm tempted to say five but it just it just when teams are this good
[00:40:43] especially those two teams I think they're evenly matched uh and already talked about Kyrie
[00:40:50] was going to be his matchup he said in the post-game interview I like them for the same
[00:40:56] reason I like them against Dallas for the same reason I like them against Denver just death
[00:41:03] athleticism tenacity and then size Nas read cat and go bear if you wanted to I'm not sure
[00:41:13] if they would do this but you can play all three of those guys at the same time because
[00:41:20] of what your two shooting big man give you like you can go Mike Conley and Nas read
[00:41:29] the go bear cat if you wanted to because they give you like you have two shooting big man you still
[00:41:36] got the defense you still got the the perimeter defense I'm not sure if Nas read can really guard
[00:41:42] Luca but I think the size and making them play over that length maybe maybe that's an
[00:41:48] attribute but you know granted I'm saying you don't have to put that lineup out there
[00:41:51] right right right but the fact that they they had that available to them even in game seven
[00:41:57] he's finished we're still getting ant on the bench getting him a rest you know and I
[00:42:04] and he was on the bench you know and they talk about it and he was on the critical point
[00:42:10] he was he was on the bench getting his rest keeping it because they knew he plays a lot of
[00:42:14] energy then he came back in he locked him all Murray now like you said he had him in handcuffs
[00:42:18] he said it said it's somebody in the hallway like I had him in handcuffs all fourth quarter
[00:42:22] but he was selling like McDaniels and uh what's the other guy by having the name I keep forgetting
[00:42:31] Nikhil Alexander Walker he was telling him like listen they don't keep doubling SGA cousin like
[00:42:37] that yeah they got a lot of names he's like they will keep doubling me you got to keep
[00:42:43] shooting you got to be ready to shoot and this is while like he was on the bench getting his
[00:42:47] rest you know sometimes stars in game seven we've seen older stars not talk on the bench
[00:42:53] we've seen it with LeBron a lot of times like he'll go to the bench and he's kind of
[00:42:55] and he'll kind of like lock in um and we've seen guys that just really go to the bench and
[00:43:02] don't really you know move the needle for their team well he was talking this guy like
[00:43:06] listen they're gonna keep doubling me you got to keep shooting and guys started knocking
[00:43:10] down threes I think people believe in them and that like I said the youth is maybe they're so
[00:43:15] naive to the fact that they shouldn't be here like one of the reporters asked him a question like
[00:43:20] do you think you guys should have gotten this much success without yeah that was Vinny Goodwill
[00:43:25] yeah and he was like yeah we lost last year he was like how many last year before that how
[00:43:30] much y'all want us to lose god damn Cassie should we be losing for 20 years like what
[00:43:35] much you want us to do and that's like I think they've they've gotten to the point where
[00:43:40] we can win uh I'm not sure if gonna be able to stop Luca but if these other guys can harass
[00:43:48] the role players we see Tim Hardaway jr has really made an appearance in the playoffs as
[00:43:53] a point so if you can if you can harass these guys these spot-up shooters then you know
[00:44:04] sky's the limit yeah I got Minnesota six I actually want to say five
[00:44:09] um me too I really I do want to say five but I gotta watch the game I gotta see how it matches
[00:44:13] up yeah uh Luca did average 37 and 11 against Minnesota this year but a couple of things that
[00:44:20] I don't know if Dallas can count on this series is that I think Minnesota still went
[00:44:25] three and one though yeah but I think uh Kyrie missed two of those games and there was
[00:44:31] it was before the trade that was this is a whole new team so you can't take that in
[00:44:35] account right but what what I'm not counting on is PJ Washington shooting 47 from three in
[00:44:42] this series I'm not counting on that you know uh Derek Jones I'm not counting on
[00:44:49] Derek Jones to keep the hot hand that he had the last three games against OKC
[00:44:55] the best games of his career uh Kyrie's gonna have to step it up and be more of the Kyrie that
[00:45:02] we know um for the Dallas to win this series um Maxie Cleaver was his status you know that
[00:45:10] gives Dallas another big body to combat Minnesota's giants you know I do like Gafford
[00:45:18] and Lively they have very specific jobs in this series grab rebounds don't get in foul
[00:45:23] trouble that's their job and that's their assignment for this series how can can cat
[00:45:29] get them in foul trouble or does cat or exactly it's all trouble right um well luckily for cat he
[00:45:35] won't have to guard anyone who's trying to score right and then not going to go
[00:45:42] guard Luca Gaffer is not going to get the ball with the intent score Lively's going to
[00:45:46] get the ball with the intense scoring so if he's guarding any one of those guys he he should
[00:45:50] be two fouls per half at the most if that's if that's his defensive assignment and what's
[00:45:58] the status of Luca's knee how many days they get well they get Saturday some days they don't
[00:46:05] play until Wednesday Wednesday so Saturday was his last game yeah so Sunday Monday Tuesday so
[00:46:11] four days rest you know so it could be the Jamal Barry thing where they had the long break
[00:46:17] in between games two and three maybe Luca comes out refreshed but it goes every other day for
[00:46:23] the rest of the series so so that's where it's going to be remember I brought up the Knicks
[00:46:29] which will just go there I brought up the Knicks and what I had said was when we were
[00:46:36] talking last time was the Knicks better win this in five you know because the longest
[00:46:42] series goes Indiana's gonna have a great chance to win this series because the Knicks are just
[00:46:48] gonna run out of bodies and lo and behold they get down by six Jalen Brunson fractures his hand
[00:46:57] Adan Obey tried to give it a go he hit his two shots but only played five minutes
[00:47:01] he probably shouldn't have been out there anyway the Knicks have no reason to hang their heads
[00:47:08] you know Indiana just is a fast team the question that I have because I know we got into like to
[00:47:14] think about is Tibbado playing his players too much all that kind of stuff like that but
[00:47:19] scrapping that part of it scrapping that part of it the Knicks didn't have to try to play
[00:47:26] helter skelter with the Pacers they didn't have to let Indiana dictate the pace
[00:47:32] Well I think they felt that the lack of defense for Indiana they could exploit but we talk about
[00:47:41] this all the time if you give NBA team if you give these guys open looks and they start knocking
[00:47:48] them down then when you start contesting it it's irrelevant like when guys go for 50 60 70
[00:47:57] points they're not shooting 25 open shots they're shooting contested shots they're
[00:48:04] shooting the Rudy Gobert fall away it's just tonight is their night and for some reason
[00:48:10] in the garden Indiana it was their night like I said when I said just screenshot they were
[00:48:15] shooting 80 percent they finished 60 percent 67 they were shooting 76 percent in the first half
[00:48:23] like that's seven and a half out of ten shots a guy you could win I think Zion Williamson shoots
[00:48:34] like 61 percent but he shoots pretty much at the rim I think Shaq was one of those guys that
[00:48:39] was like 61 62 around the rim but that's around the rim you have a whole team of guys shooting
[00:48:46] they shot how many they shot like I think they made like 57 percent of their threes
[00:48:53] it's just when that that the shots start falling and when the star gets going the role player
[00:49:00] knows that oh siakam's on one Halliburton's on one when this ball comes to me I'm gonna fire
[00:49:08] it off because if we get the offensive rebound now we're working back through them whereas
[00:49:13] when the score is like tight and it's 48 to 48 early in the third because it's a tight game
[00:49:20] I don't know if you get TJ McConnell taking shots in the land or taking that three he might
[00:49:26] have to move the ball get it to siakam get it to Halliburton looks like they went 13 of 24
[00:49:32] from 30 yeah 57 yeah yeah and not only that but but to your point back to the SGA thing
[00:49:41] for a second you know Halliburton wants to set you up you know to be like he just can shoot
[00:49:48] but he wants to be the facilitator he wants to be that cp3 you know kind of guy but he just
[00:49:55] can shoot it very well from three whereas SGA isn't necessarily a point guard in that way
[00:50:04] so like I said he's gonna get his and it's dependent on you
[00:50:11] getting good looks from the defense collapsing on him whereas Halliburton is setting out to set
[00:50:16] you up and that's what he did to the Knicks you know shot out to Ben Shepard you know shot
[00:50:21] 46 from three in this series he didn't play very much but he made use of the minutes that
[00:50:27] he got you know Aaron Neesmith you know I think it was eight for eight yesterday
[00:50:33] against the you know so three points or something like that yeah yeah so so the Knicks
[00:50:38] you know same thing that we said about okay see I don't think the Knicks need to overreact
[00:50:44] they don't need to do anything drastic you know you can't depend on Julius Randall but
[00:50:48] that's a whole nother conversation you know Julius Randall oh oh G out of no visa free
[00:50:54] agent you know so that so now I'm going into my Mr. Logical bag for a second
[00:51:01] to read that yeah I gotta go to my Mr. Logical bag see see this is the thing about sports
[00:51:06] reports is ordered right I wouldn't even have had this thought if I didn't talk to you so
[00:51:10] much but I was thinking to myself so OG out of no visa free agent they were something like
[00:51:18] five coming into the playoff or coming into the series when he played did he want to play
[00:51:27] yesterday like did he you know he came out he played the five minutes his two shots I don't
[00:51:34] know if that was he felt pressured to play is there something at play here to where
[00:51:40] him stepping onto the court yesterday hurts the Knicks chances of keeping him in the off
[00:51:45] season uh interesting question I think because it's game seven
[00:51:55] because this game seven you gotta try people were giving Donovan Mitchell some heat
[00:52:05] because he had a fight but if we think back to Kevin Durant and that finals against Toronto
[00:52:13] he was getting a lot of heat for not playing because I think it was like
[00:52:16] it was like four weeks from the time he got injured to the time it was like was his game
[00:52:23] three or four of the NBA finals by Tommy King back yeah and then he comes back and he plays
[00:52:30] what I think was like less than 15 minutes before he blows his Achilles out and he
[00:52:33] misses all of next year so guys have to weigh that you know sometimes you gotta protect
[00:52:39] yourself from the organization if the organization is not looking out for you like hey you know we
[00:52:45] know it's game seven but you were hobbled yesterday how much better did your hamstring
[00:52:51] get in the last 19 hours probably not that much better but as a guy who plays in that
[00:52:57] environment and like I say everyone loved the Knicks so him being in that team fighting for
[00:53:05] potential to get to the Eastern Conference finals if he felt like he could go he'd go
[00:53:11] same thing AD did a couple years ago I believe against Phoenix when he had the groin issue
[00:53:15] and he went and said he's moving well and then he went for one block and rebound and it was
[00:53:21] like yeah all over I'm done like what you I think you'd rather go out there and I
[00:53:27] won't say hurt yourself worse but you'd rather go out there and be like yeah I can't go
[00:53:33] versus watching them lose 130 to 109 and then the next morning you wake up and you think to
[00:53:40] myself I probably could have went yesterday right so you know so I don't think it hurts I think
[00:53:45] they have a great chance of keeping them like I said I don't know the Julius Randall
[00:53:49] contract I don't know what his market looks like like I said some I think this playoff run
[00:53:56] might have like allowed teams to see this is what our future looks like and it's the guys in this
[00:54:04] locker room or one or two guys don't need to be in his locker room like if you think about
[00:54:11] the whole game pretty sure they're gonna get rid of Pat Bev they're probably get rid of
[00:54:15] they'll probably get rid of some of those guys because like this playoff run let us know
[00:54:19] like all these guys can't come back next year yeah so Julius Randall signed a four-year 117
[00:54:28] million dollar contract he's a free agent in 2026 that's a tradable contract it is 117 was
[00:54:35] at like 29 and a half yeah and if you want a tank he's your guy is that a Charlotte move
[00:54:44] Charlotte move I don't know I doubt you move them now that not with the new head coach you know but
[00:54:50] is it like a is it a Miami move does Miami bringing a guy that can stretch the floor big
[00:54:57] plate you know rebound can fit in the heat culture maybe maybe I think the heat might
[00:55:02] try to make a play for Donovan Mitchell though I don't know why Donovan Mitchell's not happy
[00:55:07] in Cleveland and I don't know why he's not happy with Vickerstad he said publicly because
[00:55:13] you don't want to ruin your trade value well the problem is that a lot of these dudes are messing
[00:55:18] up our perception of him because they usually sign the contract and then within that next year
[00:55:26] they're like get me out of here so like I don't know if this is one of those situations
[00:55:30] because I heard I was listening to a podcast earlier and they asked the question like you
[00:55:35] know if you're Cleveland would you rather max Donovan Mitchell or would you rather trade
[00:55:42] Mitchell and keep Garland that depends on who who's your trade partner yeah because I know
[00:55:52] come out and said that he's not trading with the lakers yeah he won't do anything to help
[00:55:56] LeBron you know that Benedict Arnold stuff there you go we just solved it he might draft
[00:56:02] Bronnie just to send him to the g-league he's probably only yeah that that would be tough
[00:56:09] it'd be silly it'd be a terrible thing to do but we've seen him do something terrible
[00:56:15] holiday too late to go back to college if I'm trading Donovan Mitchell I want a bigger combo
[00:56:21] guard in return and I don't know if there's many guys on the market that you can get like
[00:56:28] maybe you maybe a Brooklyn deal maybe McHale, Brizzes and Camp Johnson get traded together
[00:56:35] again like they got traded from Phoenix to Brooklyn maybe that's the deal I don't know how
[00:56:38] the money works out but if I'm gonna run with Garland who's six one six foot maybe maybe
[00:56:47] you know I gotta get I you got I gotta get a bigger guard back like you can't I can't
[00:56:52] trade in Miami for Tyler Hero and Duncan Robinson like I can't like I'm not gonna have
[00:56:58] this you know well something that I saw was college-sized basketball team in NBA I gotta
[00:57:04] get a bigger guard or something I saw was hero, Hawkeyes and there was another piece with a pick
[00:57:15] well but you gotta play Garland and Hero at the same time yeah you don't want to do that
[00:57:21] yeah unless you want to put Hero in that Jamal profit role that's picking that's picking
[00:57:27] role all day but with that out with all that being said Mr Lodge tomorrow night
[00:57:35] from the TD Bank Garden game one of the Eastern Conference finals what say you?
[00:57:45] Boston wins game one 117 90 okay like I said it's hard to go sweep so out like I said
[00:57:56] I heard you say it earlier my whole adage of Boston's gonna give you one Boston gonna
[00:58:04] give you one of those games where like I said they went eight for 35 against Cleveland that
[00:58:08] one game they had the game against Miami where they knocked down 23 threes it's just that is
[00:58:14] that gonna be game three or game two definitely it won't be game one right I think they're
[00:58:20] gonna come out ready to play we talked about and then people talk about Port Zingis not being
[00:58:25] able to come back I'm not sure Port Zingis they don't need them is is needed for Indiana
[00:58:32] because I don't right they don't need them there's and we talked about Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum
[00:58:40] Richard Jefferson said it when their last game against Cleveland is like
[00:58:44] don't take don't settle for these shots because I feel like Jason Tatum settles for a lot of
[00:58:49] shots Jalen Brown does a little bit better job of shot selection but you're you're bigger
[00:58:58] than everybody who guards you I don't think there's a guy that maybe Paul George might be
[00:59:05] bigger than Tatum but I don't believe that's the case they can guard him I know Kawhi smaller
[00:59:11] uh Jalen Brown I mean maybe who do you have that can guard him in the east
[00:59:16] maybe if he's guarded by Giannis there's one of the only a few guys in the league that
[00:59:22] can guard those two guys that are that have a size advantage right a decisive one that that
[00:59:30] that gives them that gives them an advantage because some guys can be bigger like you can
[00:59:34] put Portis on Jalen Brown and he's bigger but that size doesn't give him advantage he's just
[00:59:41] bigger he can't keep up laterally okay he can't keep up laterally so it's like it's not many
[00:59:45] guys in the league other than Jalen Garden Jason like that's it those are the only like
[00:59:53] I think there's only two guys that match up with that skill set and that in that size
[00:59:57] combination so if they stick to the fact that if I get to this 15 foot area and let everybody
[01:00:05] else shoot threes if that's the gameplay like listen you two are going to attack the paint
[01:00:11] and get to the free throw line and you're going to get us two points
[01:00:15] every single time you get foul on one of your layup attempts or one of your
[01:00:19] close jump shots then the defense is going to have to adjust whatever defense Indiana decides
[01:00:24] to play and then that's when Hauser Pritchard Horford White Holiday all these guys they're
[01:00:33] going to shoot the threes you two attack Miles Turner's chest make him defend you at the rim
[01:00:42] get to the free throw line everybody else the seven other dudes that can shoot threes
[01:00:47] you two attack the rim you think white America is excited for this T.J. McConnell
[01:00:54] Peyton Pritchard matchup you talking about two of the whitest areas on earth Indianapolis
[01:01:00] and Boston absolutely yeah so I got on top of that all American dudes yeah I'm all American
[01:01:09] homegrown T.J. McConnell I mean can you get white in coal house
[01:01:16] so yeah I'm taking Boston in six um I think Indiana gets one at home and I think Indiana
[01:01:23] gets another one off of your lackadaisical Boston attitude I just don't know where it's
[01:01:29] going to happen at I also think that this is going to be known as the dark white series
[01:01:37] this is the series where he's going to make his imprint on offense and defense especially
[01:01:42] coming off the bad not bad but he didn't have the best series against Cleveland
[01:01:47] this should be a sweep this absolutely it should be but like you said it wouldn't surprise me if
[01:01:55] they swept them though just but of course but of course the problem is you know all their matchups
[01:02:01] were way back in November and December you know so the last time I believe they played was
[01:02:09] the end season tournament and it knocked them out yeah they knocked them out to get to the
[01:02:13] championship and all though you know so uh or to get to the semi-final so you know Indiana
[01:02:19] I think has confidence against Boston Aaron D. Smith played for Boston Rick Carlisle played
[01:02:26] for Boston you know it's the Larry Bird bowl so you know there's definitely reasons that Indiana
[01:02:35] will not roll over um I just don't think that their defense is up to par they aren't good
[01:02:41] enough I know this is back in the bubble so you know they'll take with it what you will
[01:02:47] but Pascal Siakam had his worst series against Boston in the bubble where he only averaged 14
[01:02:54] points on 37% so you know and he and they still have like you mentioned Tatum and Brown long
[01:03:02] arms that are going to bother him so it's going to be dependent and he's going to have
[01:03:07] to defend one of them yeah it's going to be dependent on Indiana to knock down shots
[01:03:11] the problem is because I mentioned how these previous games were earlier in the season
[01:03:17] one of the reasons that Indiana had such success against Boston earlier in the season was
[01:03:21] because they had a guy by the name of Buddy Hield he ain't there anymore so yeah Boston
[01:03:28] should sweep this series I'm gonna call it six I've got Minnesota and Boston in the finals
[01:03:34] I'm going Minnesota in the finals in seven with Anthony Edwards as your final MVP
[01:03:44] uh I'll see how this plays out but I've already been on record I still reserve the right to
[01:03:50] change it but I think that Jalen Brown if Boston makes NBA finals like I'm predicting
[01:03:57] I think Jalen Brown will be your MVP because I think Tatum is going to be in some scrutiny
[01:04:03] and he's going to give you a 15 point game all right well here's the question because he's
[01:04:08] going to shoot he's going to shoot six step back threes and Jalen Brown is going to just
[01:04:13] keep attacking the paint and shooting open threes because in those games if we look at these
[01:04:17] playoff runs and the games where Tatum because Tatum will have a good game with everybody else
[01:04:24] everybody will have a good game Derek White might have a better game than Tatum but when
[01:04:30] Boston's having a bad game Jalen Brown still has the good game Tatum doesn't have the good game
[01:04:39] and as Kenny Smith says sometimes you got to pull your leader through the hole
[01:04:45] you know I think in those games Tatum doesn't have the game I still think he's uber
[01:04:52] talented but just I just noticed in this playoff run and those couple of games only
[01:04:57] only those two games and even in the games where like other guys are just shining it's a team
[01:05:03] collective effort but I think Jalen Brown because I think he takes advantage of his size
[01:05:09] I think he's a little bulky a little bigger so I think he's more apt to go into the paint
[01:05:15] draw the contact and get the get his points that way whereas I think Tatum has such a
[01:05:20] great handle on the ball and he does have that you know he's six nine six ten six eight
[01:05:25] six nine six ten somewhere in that range so I think he uses his size to shoot over his defenders
[01:05:33] whereas I think Jalen Brown has is more apt to drive into his defenders and shoot
[01:05:40] closer two point shots versus turn around three point three point shots so then with
[01:05:45] that being said who wins the eastern conference finals MVP oh I forgot about that I forgot
[01:05:52] about that see that's that's gonna be tough because like I said I think I think Boston's
[01:05:58] gonna have I think they're gonna have their way with Indiana I don't think there's gonna
[01:06:03] be any pressure yeah it might be one of those series where Derek Wright has three
[01:06:08] games where he has 27 points yeah you know yeah because remember a lot of people thought
[01:06:13] that Caleb Martin was the eastern conference MVP or should have got it over Jimmy Butler
[01:06:19] last season but that that was a bit of a a little bit of a stretch because I think it was before
[01:06:25] the series that ended and it was kind of like neck and neck and then in the closeout game
[01:06:32] Jimmy kind of proved like yo this is why I'm I'm it uh but yeah like I said it could be a
[01:06:38] situation where like I said Derek White can just you know he like I said all these guys
[01:06:45] have green lights to shoot threes so if he is knocking 93 consistently and you know say there's
[01:06:54] blowouts say they win these first two games at home by 15 to 20 points well you're probably
[01:07:01] going to get Tatum a lot more rest you're going to get Derek White so Derek White's
[01:07:06] going to get you 22 to 24 points yeah they do own a 55 point win over Indiana this year
[01:07:11] yeah so you know you you sit Tatum and Brown and now you have Derek White out there just
[01:07:17] running the offense getting points getting layups and free throws so at the five games
[01:07:24] he's averaging 22 and a half six or seven assists you know Andy and he plays good defense
[01:07:33] and Tatum was just like part along for the ride because it was such a
[01:07:37] a brief series I can see you know somebody else sneaking in Andre Goudalas style and
[01:07:43] and getting the getting the Eastern Conference MVP I like it I like it all right well ladies
[01:07:50] and gentlemen you know saying it is that time unfortunately where we must bid you adieu
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