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[00:01:05] Do all the good things. You know what I'm saying? What's up? We got the number one fan. First fan, Chris in the building. What's happening? You know what I'm saying? He been dropping some gems on us. Something is cooking. Just to let you know. But tonight we're going to talk about some NBA. Lots of NBA. We're going to talk about some Nico. We're going to talk about some NFL drafts. So Mr. Logical, let's start this off.

[00:01:34] We just looked at the West and all the possibilities of the teams and the spots that they could fall in. For example, the Lakers anywhere from three to five. You know, the Nuggets from anywhere from three to eight. Not seven. Eight. The Clippers anywhere from four to eight. So on and so forth. You know, we got Denver and Memphis right now. You know, Ja Moran is probably getting that rocket launcher ready. But before we get to all of that.

[00:02:04] Before we get to all of that. Before we get to all of that. The one that hit you with the fists. Give me a second here. Give me a second here, Mr. Logical. So let me talk to the cuck-ass fans of the Dallas Mavericks real quick. All y'all did was get your team sent to Vegas. What the hell was that display the other night? So look, you played the tribute video. Cool. Made Luka cry. Cool.

[00:02:31] By the time he dropped 31 in the first half, get off his dick. You know what I'm saying? It's time to boo now. Like, Luka doesn't play for your team anymore. I know that you love him. But he's the enemy now. You know what I'm saying? Now, with that being said. Nico Harrison. Fire Nico Harrison. Cool. But how about the owner that gave him the ability to make that decision? Or that approved the decision?

[00:02:58] Listen, everybody know Americans are infatuated with billionaires. Billionaires can do no wrong. So you blame the dude that's making millions of dollars. Fuck that. Because what I know did not happen. There's a lot of things. There's a lot of space across the street from Mandalay Bay. Just throwing it out there. It's a lot of space for a basketball arena. I don't care what they came to do, residency. Mandalay Bay.

[00:03:24] You can do that for the first half or, you know, the first quarter or something like that. When the man, you know, is putting 45 on you, you got to switch it up to something. You do it during the video tribute. And then after the tip-off is booing him every time you get the ball. No, you ain't got to boo him every time you get the ball because he didn't put this in motion. I don't think you really need to boo him at all. No, you don't even need to boo him. No, what they were doing, what they were doing. I think they know it's over. I think they know it's a wrap.

[00:03:49] What they were doing was he would hit a shot and the jumbotron would do the thing, make some noise. That's a little much. Because they know it's over. Let's unpack this trade now. We got a couple of months on it. You have Kyrie who has to rehab. NFL players tend to go. So I think Adrian Peterson had his surgery on New Year's Day. Now, he was ready for opening day in the NFL. But he's also a freak genetic athlete.

[00:04:19] His mother was a college track star. His father was a linebacker. That's a different breed of human being. So he was ready to go in nine months. RG3, I think he got his in January in the playoffs. He tried to come back early. Wasn't the same. So that's nine months. So if Kyrie goes cautiously and goes 10 months, that's still January.

[00:04:48] And then they're talking about potentially getting Kevin Durant. And then it's like, so you got to move a lot of pieces to get KD. So you're going to move enough pieces to get KD. And you got KD and AD. Cool. But you're going to be missing. PJ Washington is definitely going to be gone. One of your bigs is going to be in that deal. They can't make another bad deal where they don't get to push the other team. Here's a question for you. Did Nico even ask for Austin Reeves?

[00:05:18] He had to. Did he? You had to. You had to mention it. That's what I'm talking about, Residente. He would hit a shot and the joint would be like, make noise. Because he, like, like he said at the postgame interview, tonight I get to sleep in my bed. You know, like Dallas is still home. It is not the fans fault that he doesn't play there anymore. No.

[00:05:44] And I think the people in the building, I think it's really, I think it's like ingrained in the fans and the people who work there who aren't in millionaire leadership status. That they thought this was a bad move. Maybe they needed closure. And I think there's like, they're going to do whatever they can do. Excuse me. To stick it to the man. Because it's like, no matter how you. They can wave bye bye to Vegas while they at it.

[00:06:13] Some, like, you know, if I was in the NBA, I'd get another team in Vegas before they could do it. Just to make themselves. Wave high to Seattle. Let me check the Washington gambling rules. You know, but. I have a casino and a basketball arena and say, like, that would, it would be dope. So I'm a Vegas guy. I like, I like what Vegas does when they put stuff together. But the four, if, if the rumors are true, the four should way out of Dallas this way.

[00:06:42] I guess because in Vegas, you really don't need a marquee player because it's Vegas. Oh, you'll get the A's are going there. The A's are going. One. Yeah, you'll get one. But it's like, just because it's Vegas. Like I said, we talked about it before with the Raiders. It's like, you can just build in your weekend trip to go to a Raiders game. It's crazy expensive. But you're like, you know what? It's Vegas. It's my birthday. Let's go to Vegas for my birthday and see a Raiders versus Packers game or whatever the game is going to be that weekend. You decide to go out there.

[00:07:12] And last thing before I move on from this Dallas thing, Anthony Davis. This is why the Lakers traded you. 13 points, 5 of 13 from the floor. Like, why can't you just show up when you need to? Why? It's strange when, as much as NBA players love to shoot the basketball and you're a player with the ultimate green light. And now, like, they had a big that was guarding you.

[00:07:41] I think most times you might have got to switch with LeBron on you. Like, I don't think there's another guy on the Lakers roster that's over 6'9 that was guarding him. Maybe. Like, why? He might be 6'10". Yeah, but he's 6'10", 2'10". You might as well be 6'5". If he's going to be 6'10", 2'10". We know, Chris. You know what I'm saying? Give me the details. Stop talking in crypt like this, man. You know, it's crypto or whatever. You know what I'm trying to say. We got breaking news.

[00:08:11] He just wanted to break it himself. I ain't trying to offend the bloods out there. You know what I'm trying to say. He can't give us a moment, but he want to do it himself. Shout out solutions over excuses. All right. So, Mr. Logical, here you go. You ready for this? Let's get it. So, as we were talking about the West playoffs, the Lakers have the tiebreaker, you know, over the Nuggets, Clippers, Warriors, and Grizzlies. The Nuggets have the head-to-head over the Warriors. The Clippers have the head-to-head over the Warriors and the Grizzlies. The Grizzlies have the head-to-head against Minnesota.

[00:08:40] The Warriors have the head-to-head against Minnesota and Memphis. And then Minnesota has the head-to-head over Denver and the Clippers. So, beyond a mess. Beyond a mess. And, you know, right now you've got Memphis with a nine-point lead in the second quarter against Denver. You know, so to close it out, you know, like Memphis, you know, they lost to Minnesota last night by 16.

[00:09:08] Anthony Edwards with 44 points. You know, Jha put up a 30 spot. You know, so I don't know what to do with this, man. So, I was just going to ask you, if it were up to you, what first-round matchups would you get out of this? All right. So, as the standings are currently cemented, metaphorically, because I think one through eight right now in the West, I don't believe the Kings or Mavericks are going to get in.

[00:09:39] I mean, we're going to talk about the different potential scenarios where the Lakers could be anywhere from three to five. The, I think, what is it? The Timberwolves could be anywhere from three to eight. I think it's four to eight, yeah. Four to eight. Let me pull up. Clippers from four to eight. Denver from three to eight. So, Denver could still catch the Lakers. So, yeah.

[00:10:06] So, as it currently looks right now, let me see what matchup I would like. Western Conference. So, we go West first. I think Rockets, Timberwolves. No. Yeah, I'm assuming. Rockets, Grizzlies would be cool.

[00:10:29] I think Timberwolves, Thunder could be Thunder nuggets from last year. Whereas, I believe a lot of people thought it was like a foregone conclusion that Denver was going to win that series. I know it was. I know it was from Minnesota, yeah. So, I like the Thunder and Timberwolves.

[00:10:53] I like Anthony Edwards' personality, gamesmanship, season to moment, going up against Shea, who's having a Jordan-esque kind of season. And pretty much, I think the team collectively in Oklahoma City gets very little respect for a team that's currently 52 games over 500. 66 wins. 66 wins.

[00:11:20] So, they're 52 games over 500. The Rockets have 52 total wins and in the second seed. So, like, that type of gap in spacing between one and two, and people are still, not people, a lot of pundits are talking and their subject lines are, who's the greatest threat to the Lakers in the West? It's like, there's two teams ahead of the Lakers. And I get it.

[00:11:49] Like, that's a greater story. But realistically, it's like, is anybody a threat to OKC? And I think OKC and Minnesota, first round, that's... I like that matchup because I think, like you said last night, Anthony Edwards was going for over 40. I think he's a backpack guy. I think he's like, listen, I'm going here. I'm going to try to put up 48 points.

[00:12:19] I just need to knock down his corner threes. When they defend me at the rim and I got to kick it out to you, just knock down the three. We can beat this team. If I'm OKC, I would want Memphis just because I think they'll fall apart a little bit more because they... I think a lot of guys, when you fire the coach and you got a star player that people believe is antics or deliberate and trying to get traded, I think that dissension in the locker room can happen after one game.

[00:12:45] OKC comes out, beats Memphis 113-88 in the first game, and it's easy street. You beat Minnesota 113-88 in game one, Ant going to be like, listen, man, we got these dudes. All we got to do is stop this, this, and this. And people will believe it. And they'll come back and win game two. Memphis is going to be like, nah, I'm good. My calf tightened up. I'm not playing. Well, for me, first and foremost, I need the revenge of E-May. I want Rockets Warriors. You know what I'm saying?

[00:13:14] Especially after that game I saw last weekend where the Rockets got up in that ass. Pause. You know what I'm saying? What up? What up? What up, Fleazy? You know what I'm saying? I think that I'm here for our men Thompson chasing around Steph Curry. You know, I'm here to see Jalen Green with the bright lights taken against the Empire, the evil Empire that's at the end of the line.

[00:13:37] You know, I'm here to see E-May just go up against the team that he lost to in the finals so he can unleash, you know, what he's learned about the Warriors in that time. So that's first and foremost. So you want them at 2-7? I want that at 2-7. 2-7. So you want the Warriors to drop. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I want that 3-6. I need that battle of L.A.

[00:14:01] I've been waiting for it for two or three years now, you know, saying I can't get it, so I need it. You know what I'm saying? Kawhi going back, you always bring up the commercial where Kawhi's like, I'm the king of L.A. now. I need that series, man, because I think it'll be a good series. I think it might go seven. And this is the problem with the Clippers.

[00:14:22] They are very counterintuitive because the longer the playoffs go, the worse it is for them because somebody's going to get hurt or Harden's going to start playing, you know, like Harden in the playoffs. Ben Simmons ain't going to show up. If Harden has a 4-for-13 game. Just waiting. It just is on deck. It's like one of those, like we talk about Boston. It's going to be a game where somebody's going to hit 19 threes against Boston in the playoffs. It just happens every year. 4-for-13. Ben Simmons.

[00:14:52] I mean, do you just sag off of him the entire game? I don't know. I remember back in the day they used to do the thing where they played behind him, you know, where he would just kind of take off and you would chase him down versus being in front of him. Yeah. I remember they tried that. Utah tried that with James Harden playing off. I'm like, he can still float it left-handed. That's fine. I live with that, you know, because he's going to miss him. But he was going to say.

[00:15:20] If he could get a foul call, then he would get the three anyway. I want – give me Denver and Memphis, you know, because, you know, we're at that point. Both of them fired their coach. Like, who's going to give up first? Yeah. Yeah, which one is going to tap out, you know what I mean? Right now, Memphis has a 57-44 lead with about three minutes left in the second quarter at Denver. So, you know, but give me that. And then the last one, of course, will leave us with Minnesota and OKC for a lot of the reasons that you said. Yeah. I like the matchup.

[00:15:49] And I'm at the point – and real quick, I'm at the point where no excuses. I don't want to hear nothing about youth. I don't want to hear anything about playoff experience. You won 66 games. Go win the title. But the reason that I would like to see them play Minnesota, because I think that if they play most other teams in the West, so not LA, the Lakers I'm talking about, not the Warriors, and not Minnesota, but I think OKC would beat everybody else in a minimum or a maximum of five games.

[00:16:15] So I would like to see Minnesota, because that gives us an opportunity to look at OKC and say, what happens if this goes six? Like, where's your psyche? Where's your mental now if it's 3-2? Just – that's just something I'm interested in. And I think Minnesota – Minnesota, cold soda, baking soda. OKC in five. Don't you? That's just what I'm saying. OKC.

[00:16:40] No, like, I think – I think OKC – and I guess I'm just – I just – I just want to keep it simple. I just feel they have – and I said the same thing about Boston, and I said when I want a team to win, this is the same thing I say about them. They have guys who are exceptional in their roles, and they have every role filled.

[00:17:05] There's not a – there's not a basketball strategy, tactic aspect that they don't have covered to make a championship run. You got your score, who's your best player, MVP talent. You have an anomaly at – on offense or, like, just on the court at a 7'2 guy.

[00:17:28] Graney's not very big, but he does – you have to guard him with someone athletic enough to stay in front of him, even though he's not very big, but he can shoot over him. So the guy has to be big enough and athletic enough. There's not a lot of guys in the league that strictly play defense like that on Shett. But Hardenstein, rebounding. I think you have your J. Lee's, your wing defenders. I think Dort, your on-ball defender. I think you guys have come off the bench.

[00:17:56] I think the – all the Siege Caruso. I mean, it's a plethora of riches with OKC Thunder. You know what's crazy? All you have to do is play to what you normally do. If you are an 8.3 rebound guy and you play 17 minutes, just do that. And I think those guys are so cemented in those roles, it's going to be hard to stop. You know what's crazy? And, you know, obviously, you know, SGA is second in steals behind Dyson Daniels this year.

[00:18:26] Did you know that SGA has more blocks this season than Giannis and Jared Allen? Giannis would make sense. Jared Allen doesn't. Do you see what – you would think, like, Jared Allen would just – they would rotate the shooter to him just so he could get blocks. Maybe they're just shooting it over his hand and he just – Maybe, but SGA, you know, so the Thunder, like, have three or four dudes that could be NBA all defense.

[00:18:54] You know, SGA, Lou Dort, you know, Chet, you know, Hardenstein could play some defense. You got Caruso, J-Dub, you know. So I think that that's the thing that makes me feel different about OKC than most other teams with their lack of experience because defense travels. And that's why I think that Houston could be – because I think a lot of these pundits are out here saying, oh, you want to get Houston. Even if you got to play in the play-in, you want to get Houston. You don't want to play the Lakers. You don't want to play OKC.

[00:19:22] You don't want to play Houston because they're going to beat you up even if you win the series. But even beyond that, defense travels. So normally you talk about, you know, the role players, right? Like, you know, at home, they're going to let it fly. On the road, they're going to be a little more hesitant. But they don't have to worry about that on defense. They're going to get in. Defense, you're going to play the way you play. You're not going to shy away from a defensive opportunity at home or on the road.

[00:19:47] You might not pull up from three, you know, late in the third and the score is, you know, 81 to 80. You might not blow a possession. But you'll step up and play defense anywhere. And what happens is you force a bad shot. Aaron's shot. Shagoon gets the rebound. Outlet. Thompson gets the easy layup, you know. And I keep saying it. Dylan Brooks will hump you. Defense turns the offense so quickly, especially when you have guys that's like, listen, I'm not here to play defense.

[00:20:17] And if I get a put back, if I get an offensive rebound, I'm putting it back up. That's my role. And I think guys knowing, like, everything that they do is for team success. Sometimes, like, we talk about the Lakers. I think a lot of times the Lakers players default back to whatever the offensive strategy is for that time on the court. Like, if J.J. Reddick's like, hey, we're going to work the pick and roll so we can get Luka and a big on him.

[00:20:47] Rui would get a rebound. Well, maybe he might be able to take two dribbles and shoot a pull-up. But they have to defer back to the offensive strategy for that time. So it's like you kick it back out to Austin Reeves. He gets it over to Luka. You reset the pick and roll. So, whereas, if Steven Adams gets an offensive rebound, just put it back up. Right. And we'll go with it. Yeah. I got another question for you. I got another question for you.

[00:21:16] This doesn't have anything to do with the playoffs. So the other night, the one and only Kyle Filipowski put up 30-18 with five assists. And on that same game, on the same team, my guy, Oscar Shibwe, put up 17-10. Does that speak to the skilled NBA or what? It's the end of the year.

[00:21:43] It's some guys that – because these guys all have talent. You know, we talk about a scouting reading statement all the time. Like, I'm closer than LeBron than you are to me. These guys are elite talents. And, you know, a few shots go in. They give you the green light. Maybe pregame, like, listen, man, we're going to let you play tonight. We're going to let you play your game. Because, I mean, everyone knows they tank it for Cooper Flag anyway. So it's like, might as well give these guys an opportunity to get 12, 15, 16 shots.

[00:22:12] Shout out to Drew Timmy, you know, who's been killing it for the Nets since he got called up from the G League. Shout out to my guy, Justin Edwards from UK, who was supposed to be the number one overall pick last year. But then, you know, not so much. He went undrafted. So realistically speaking, what chance do the Lakers have to get to the finals? Sure.

[00:22:39] The lack of rim protection and the lack of a dedicated big to do dedicated big stuff is going to hurt him. It's just because you can't keep playing games outside in. Like, it's just not a feasible thing. LeBron, all-time great talent. Luka's going to do his thing. But just a simple pick and roll, lob, dunk over the top. Jackson Hayes can't stop that.

[00:23:09] Rui can't always be there because he's defending a guy on the wing a lot of times. Austin Reeves is probably defending your point guard. Maybe your two-guard depends on, like, the setup. So it's just your best defenders, your best defensive concept is all five guys making the right read and being directed by LeBron or whoever is kind of anchoring the defense. That is – that's going to get people – that's going to get missed.

[00:23:36] Like, where you're directing guys and you're trying to get a guy in the corner and then, like, Rui doesn't – Rui doesn't know the switch is coming. You know, just something like that. Every few possessions are going to happen where now you get a guy, like – so they're playing 3-6. So you got the Clippers. He wants to get the switch where he's pressing hard and out to the top. Rui doesn't hear it or Rui doesn't move. And now Kawhi is pulling up at the free throw line and getting an easy, you know, easy look at the basket.

[00:24:05] And that's going to happen because these guys are offensive professionals. But the fact that there's no one there that can just clean up that mess, because it's going to happen. A guy's got to take a bad angle or get, you know, caught with a hezy dribble. There's no one at the rim that tells the opposing player, you can't come in here. Like, I'm getting all the way to the rim. Or the rotation, rotation, the ball comes to the corner, gets swung around, swung around.

[00:24:33] Now James Harden's shooting the open three at the top of the key because, you know, you had to rotate the defense and everyone's scrambling. So I think that's going to be the ultimate thing that hurts somebody. Just because I don't think that they had a guy like Hartenstein, I'm like, all right, maybe. Are the Knicks a threat to either Boston or Cleveland?

[00:24:53] I don't believe so because the Cleveland and Boston both score from 25 feet consistently with eight guys. Like, both teams have – I think Boston's probably running eight guys with green lights, maybe about nine. So you have the whole starting five. They all have the green light from three.

[00:25:21] Then you bring in Pritchard, Hauser. So that's seven. Porzingis comes off the bench, so that's eight. Yeah. So you have eight guys off the top of my head right now that have green lights from three. They're pretty consistent, probably 34% to 36%, somewhere in that range. But they're going to shoot 40.

[00:25:50] So, like, that's – I think that's the difference. I believe that's the same thing with Cleveland. I still don't know how Mikael Bridges gets his shot off. I still don't know how that works. I know he's working on it. But I think that's going to be the part. That's going to be the part that hurts the Knicks because I know Carl Anthony Towns is there to score. Jalen Brunson, when he's in scoring mode, he dribbles the ball a lot.

[00:26:16] It's a lot of, like, creating contact at the free throw line, keeping his dribble alive. And I think sometimes they can kind of stand around and watch. And a guy like Cat needs to get the ball consistently. But I think sometimes when Jalen's trying to get his shot off, he tends to dribble the ball. I think that it helps that they have Mitchell Robinson back. But I agree with you. But I think I'm going to just go ahead and say it because I said it before. I'm taking Indiana over Cleveland in the second round.

[00:26:45] So I'm taking Indiana to get to the Eastern Conference Finals now. I just like the way that they're playing. Halliburton's back. He looks more closer to his form that he started before the All-Star game last year, before the injury. And remember, last year they took Boston to the wire in all four of those games in the Eastern Conference Finals. And he missed half those games. So, you know, I think Indiana is a sleeper to watch out for. I think Boston's going to win the East.

[00:27:12] You know, I ain't going to say easily, but I just don't see who can beat them four times. Yeah, and as you said, Cleveland, you got Cleveland losing in the second round. I am not 100% sold on that. But I do agree with you as far as someone beating Boston four times. I just think that what Cleveland does is very similar to what Boston does.

[00:27:39] I just think Boston has a couple of more years of doing it, and their two top wing offensive players are just bigger. Tatum and Brown at 6'7", 6'8", you know, 6'8", 6'9", somewhere in that range. Between Garland and Donovan Mitchell, both of them under 6'4", would be generous. Yeah.

[00:28:05] I think that's the piece because, like I said, you've got to beat this team four times in 11 days with a couple of travel days in the middle. It's going to be very tough considering that they're going to be able to – I think they're going to be able to slow Garland down with Drew Holiday on him aggressively and then all the bigs that they could just run him.

[00:28:34] I just think Boston is just too – they're too well constructed. So on top of the things that we were talking about in our pregame, if you will, and I'll let you get to that in a second, you know, as far as the teams in the West who's kicking themselves because of games that they lost this year. Is it possible that from a poetic standpoint, Harrison Barnes is going to be the reason that the Warriors are in the play-in?

[00:29:04] I watched like that – his 2016 game 5 through 7, he shot 15%. And he was wide open. It felt as if – If he just shot 30%, they win the title. If he shot 23%, if he would have made two open jumpers in game 7, they win. Because I think if he hits a couple of shots, they get to 100 points. Because he was wide open.

[00:29:33] And it felt like watching the clip and thinking back to that game 7 because I watched while I was deployed, it felt like they was like, you know what, we're going to go 5 on 4 and just kind of rotate to him if someone's close. It felt like what the Spurs did to LeBron with Boris Diaz. Wow. Yeah. Just like we're going to just put extra bodies on him. Have that pretty cool jumper. Yeah. Yeah, you can have it. If you can make it, you can make it. But other than that, we're going to miss our defensive strategy.

[00:30:03] You know what it is. And we don't think you can overcome it. But it is pretty poetic. Like, I mean, you got Denver has other things that are going to be the, you know, because they're the architects that are on demise by firing their coach. By getting swept by Washington. But they did get, they got swept by Washington. So now, once again, they're in that same conundrum when they could be anywhere from 4 to 8. Then you have Hornets beat the Lakers.

[00:30:31] But the Lakers are lucky because the furthest they can go down is 5. But, you know, some of these other calculations, everything else, you know, they're probably firm at 3. Utah has wins over Golden State, Los Angeles, the Lakers, and Minnesota. The Nets beat Golden State. And the Raptors beat Golden State. So Golden State has, granted, I get it, you're going to have some losses. They just have like five bad losses.

[00:31:00] And they had a bad one at a bad time, you know, this week. I love what Steph is doing, but he is proof that between him and Draymond is like, yeah, you can build. You can build with a couple of players. But the sustainability is going to be tough. And you have to make the right moves. I think sometimes you make these draft picks. We talk about the NFL draft coming up. You can make a couple of these moves and just get lucky. I saw a clip earlier. You know, I won't go for a tangent.

[00:31:30] But the Bucs got Derrick Brooks and Warren Sapp in the same round that year. Two Hall of Famers. That's luck. Even if you scouted it and everything else, you still got to get lucky to get whoever is on the phone. You got to get to them before somebody else does. The Warriors got Klay, Steph. Steph had those bad ankles. And then they ended up being able to sign him to like a lower contract because they felt he was injury prone. And then NASA made him some ankle braces.

[00:32:00] And all the Silicon Valley guys got with MIT guys to make sure his ankles. He hadn't rolled an ankle in nine years. Nine to ten years at least. Because that was a big deal before he signed his deal. So that was able to keep the money open for Kevin Durant. So, like, it was sustained for a very long time. Now it's just you have Draymond and Steph and you're trying to fill in all these other pieces.

[00:32:25] And you want these other pieces to operate like your old 2014, 2015, 2016 teams. And it's like, that's tough. And you can see it in their record, you know, being, you know, 47 and 33. And that's a grind for them. Where they were easily, they were bringing out 60 wins back to back to back to back. Right. So it looks like we got Knicks Pistons and Pacers Bucs, you know, because the Bucs knocked off the Pistons tonight.

[00:32:54] So they opened the game up or they're three games with one game left. The Pacers got smoked by Orlando tonight. So, you know, it looks like the Knicks are going to be locked into the three. So, you know, I'm here for it. You know, Knicks and Pistons, you know, Jaden Ivey got cleared for basketball activities today. So, you know, we'll see what happens. But I'm here for all of the playoffs.

[00:33:21] This is Tibbs making a rookie year. And honestly, I don't know. Eastern Conference Finals maybe saves them. Oh, yeah. That's what we were going to talk about. Yeah, yeah. Let me go back to that. Yeah. So you got to beat Boston to make that happen. Yeah. I think Tibbs is on hot ice because they haven't beaten Boston, Cleveland, or OKC this year. So I think he's on hot ice already just because of that.

[00:33:49] I wonder, you know, if Dame's injury may have given Doc Rivers a little more time because I think that he might have been looking down the barrel of the hot seat. But with that, you know, you can't really hold that. I think Milwaukee could potentially be on the verge of blowing up. Yeah, because Giannis probably wants out. Because if you keep Giannis, the money's going to – if you keep Giannis for one more year, he's another year older.

[00:34:17] And he's either closer to not being tradable or not being payable because if he still feels he's good enough and he's physically capable of putting up. And if he comes out next year and he puts up 29, 10, and 8 and they want to do a contract extension or move some money around, man, that's $65 million. It's going to cost you. Yeah. So it's like a three-year.

[00:34:44] It'll be like a two-year 140 deal or something crazy like that with an opt-out clause, which no one's going to opt out of $70 million. I think that Nick Nurse – But it's going to be there due a year. I think that Nick Nurse might be semi-safe, but I think Daryl Morey might be out. In Philly? Yeah. I think short of like – I know I'm saying blow it up, blow it up, blow it up.

[00:35:13] These guys on the team as their president constructed, healthy, you're viable. But if they come back healthy next year, they're competing with however Cleveland's season ended. They're still a 60-plus win team. 2024-25 season. Boston, we're all – they're a 61 team.

[00:35:40] A lot of people are projecting them to represent the East and NBA Finals again. So the Knicks, 50 wins, third in the East again. Philly, you're looking at Detroit's coming on. Indiana. Indiana's coming on. Even if you're perfectly constructed next year in Philly, you're battling between four and seven. Because I don't think you're touching the top three teams.

[00:36:09] Because your stars – your two of your stars have this propensity to be healthy for the whole season. So you're going to miss them for some stretches. There's going to be either injuries or rest. So you can't even – say you bank on them for 65 games. And they play 65 together. You're probably looking at what? 40 and 25 is a good option in those 65 games. Yeah.

[00:36:38] They still got 17 other games. It's like – you know, they can go either way. And that's the problem with Philly because they're going to all get back together. They're going to get all this money. And they're going to start at four. I think they're still – And that's still being generous considering everything that they're going through. You know, and then you got – Yeah, they're playing for fourth place. Like Larry Bird was saying in the three-point, like who's here for second place? Yeah, I wonder – They're showing up for fourth place.

[00:37:04] I wonder if Billy Donovan finally gets the can, you know, as the Bulls are sitting in 10 right now. Still getting the play in, but you're six games under 500 still. You know, you already traded Levine. You got rid of DeRozan. So at some point you're starting over anyway. You know, so you might as well get – because he probably should have been fired two years ago. But then as I look – Do you get the former Memphis coach or does he ride out the rest of his paychecks for his contract?

[00:37:34] I think that would be a good pickup for them, you know. Or Mike Budenhoser might be available. They would get rid of another coach? That's the word on the street. Ever since the All-Star break, that's been on the street. Like, these billionaires is like – I mean, I guess a billion dollars is one million a thousand times.

[00:38:01] So it's like, okay, I'll pay this guy $18 million to walk away. Yeah. Because I'm going to make $18 million when I bump the ticket prices and the beer prices to $19 next season anyway. Right. So I think – Yeah. Yeah, I think he's on his way out, you know, as they start over again. You know, obviously Denver and Memphis are already open. You know, I wonder if going into next year –

[00:38:30] so not this year, but I got two coaches. I wonder if Quinn Snyder down in Atlanta could be on the hot seat. And that's only if they keep Trey Young. You know, if they trade Trey Young, I think the clock might start a little bit over in some ways. But if they keep Trey Young, I think your clock starts. I think that, you know, Sacramento is going to be looking for a coach because, you know, they fired Mike Brown already. Doug Christie has the interim.

[00:39:00] So I was going to ask you, and I know all this shit is going on, Luca, all this – is Jason Kidd out? So, like I mentioned that the other day, I think he might want out. Just like, just hear me out because – Make sure to pay roof, right? Yeah, because if you think about it, they made the ownership, management,

[00:39:30] made the deal, Luca. Like, yo, you're good. We got three bigs. One of them is AD. He has a ring. Kyrie, one of the most respected players in the league. Dynamic talent. Great role players. We're going to gel this. This team's going to gel. We're going to excel. Well, now he doesn't have Kyrie going into next year.

[00:40:01] AD has been available a lot for the last few years in LA. I know people make it seem like he's, like, just fragile. Guy's always hurt. The last few years, it's something like 89, 90% of the games he's available to play. But he doesn't take over the game. He doesn't – he doesn't Giannis in these kind of moments. So, I don't know if you can ride out. Maybe January, like I said, before Kyrie comes back.

[00:40:30] You know, best case scenario. I don't know if AD is going to be a guy that's going to be like, you know what? I'm going to go 29, 10, and 8 to carry us over the hump. Clay another year older. Clay another year older. So, it's going to be a situation where they're going to look at the team that they think should be better. Expectation management. Especially if they get KD. And if you get KD, you got to give up something.

[00:40:58] And whatever you give him for KD, he can't replace by himself singularly. Yeah, he's going to give you 26, 27 points. He's going to give you the threat anywhere on the floor. He's going to give you consistency. But he can't give you lockdown defense on the guy rotating to the corner. Like, he doesn't do that. And also score the ball and also pass the ball and also, you know, is six extra fouls when you have to defend a guy like Steph.

[00:41:24] Or he just doesn't give you all the things for all the pieces you're going to have to move to get him. Considering that, a guy like Embiid might be available. I know that's not good for Dallas. But there's going to be movement. I think you talk about Trey Young potentially being available. Ja might be available because of his antics. And I think after seeing the Luka trade, GM's like, listen, as long as we get back more than what Dallas got for Luka, that could be the new floor.

[00:41:54] Like, yo, like that's the new floor. Like, yeah, as long as we got a better deal than that, then I can move Trey Young for, you know, a few guys from Detroit. Yeah, GM's are going to be – you miss every shot you don't take now. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of GMs calling like, yo, I'm Detroit. Hey, can I pair up Trey Young with Kay Cunningham? But I got to give up maybe Thompson, maybe Ivy, maybe a couple of picks. Yeah, I would hang up on Atlanta.

[00:42:21] But what I'm saying is that I think that those calls are going to be made now because we have, like I said, criminal justice. We have the precedent. The precedent is this. Like, okay, so we can all use this as our talking point when we go in these offices and talk to the owners. Like, listen, this is all they got for Luka. I think Milwaukee would give – I think Brooklyn would give up this much for, you know, to go get – for Giannis.

[00:42:51] And the Spurs need a new coach. I think Willie Green might be out in New Orleans. Not all his fault, but it just is what it is. And then lastly, Portland still hasn't given Chauncey Billups a contract. That's a Mike Malone spot. You know, I mean, they won 35 games this year, and, I mean, who would have thought that? Had a 10-game winning streak at one point this season. So, you know, but this is the last year of his contract.

[00:43:21] He still hasn't gotten extension. Both of those guys getting fired just basically sealed Chauncey's fate. That's probably correct, sad, but true. So, you know, speaking of fate, we got holdouts coming to college football. Nico not practicing today. The orange-white game is tomorrow. His dad came out and said, you know, said, no, I don't know nothing about these negotiations. Like, yeah, you don't know nothing about them, but why your son ain't at practice? I'm torn.

[00:43:51] I'm torn. I look at it like this is a new process. I'm not torn. It's a new process. It's what was needed. Because if we think about all the money that was generated by these players and for them not to get any of it. Like, for me, we talk about, I've heard pundits, like, people who were against it,

[00:44:20] saying, like, oh, if you pay them, they're professionals, and, you know, Ohio State's going to be able to pay more for their players. Yeah, they earned that. Yeah, I got some big deals for you there, too. They have hundreds of years of legacy in football. But that's the case anyway, because Toledo can't pay, can't provide the same education as far as, like, scholarships. I know.

[00:44:48] And the money and the stipends as Ohio State could anyway. Nor could they get the same amount of cleats. Nor could they hire the amount of coaches. Nor could they get the bigger weight room. So all these big schools were already using money as leverage and an advantage. So now that Tennessee can give their starting quarterback $8 million, they still have to have the facilities to keep them there. They still have to have the coaches to help them be good.

[00:45:16] Because I'm pretty sure there's boosters who went to some small school in Texas that are now landman, oil money, millionaires or billionaires. And they will love to see Texas State, you know, get a top five guy. But you've still got to be able to fill the stands. You've still got to be able to give that person who's a five-star quarterback, a five-star linebacker, the big college experience.

[00:45:45] These other schools were going to do that anyway. Hey, don't be hating on Sam Marcos. So it sounds like, you know, Nico's deal is around $2.4 million right now. You know, but then what happened was Carson Beck and Darian Mensah both got $4 million. You know, one from Miami, one from Duke. You know, and Tennessee's like, hey, we got more money than them.

[00:46:10] You know, but the other side piece of this, Mr. Logical, is that the transfer portal opens on Wednesday. So this is the absolute wrong time to be having this conversation with Nico. Wrong for Tennessee or wrong for Nico? Yeah, wrong for Tennessee. They should have been having this. Especially when they know if Oregon knows a number is $4 million and he can enter the transfer portal in two days. He's a West Coast kid.

[00:46:39] He's a West Coast kid and Oregon knows. Like, yo, we'll give you $4.5 million. I think Oregon's fine with Dante, though. But what if he goes to USC with Lincoln Riley? What if Lincoln Riley starts poking around? You know what I'm saying? Pause. I mean, he's a Cali kid. He should be worried about anyone besides Cal or Stanford. But, I mean, Stanford gives you that college experience. It might be a little tough education-wise. But I say USC, UCLA.

[00:47:07] It's a lot of people. And I get it. It sucks that you could potentially lose your player. But you had a quote you want or a tweet you wanted to read. Well, I'm going to get to that. I'm going to get to that. But let me fill some of these gaps that you brought up. Okay. So we've been talking about the House case against the NCAA. You know, the swimmer, Grant House, suing the NCAA.

[00:47:37] And this is where a lot of this stuff that I'm about to say is coming from. So the NCAA has agreed to pay about $2.8 billion in damages to past and current athletes, you know, in violation of antitrust laws. Okay. Now, you brought up, hey, Toledo can't do this. They don't have the facilities. They don't have this. They don't have that. Okay.

[00:48:01] So a part of this is that the NCAA has made a proposal to limit the scholarships some of these bigger schools can give. So that's probably going to be a problem because Alabama is going to give the NCAA the middle finger. You know, like this is a part of the stuff that I always talk about, breaking away from the NCAA because the NCAA is going to say, you know what? Toledo can have 85 scholarships. You can have 65. And Alabama is going to say, screw you.

[00:48:31] I'm going home. Okay. Now, that's that. Ted Cruz. Yes, that Ted Cruz. That man has his hand in everything. Yeah, he's drafting a bill that can provide limited antitrust protections for school, which includes identifying the players as students and not employees. We've heard that before. So what's coming down the pipe now? There's going to be a revenue sharing formula.

[00:48:58] So far, what they're thinking is that the way this is going to work formaleically, I think that's a word. We'll see. Formaleically, 75% of the revenue sharing is going to be shared with the football players, 15% to the men's basketball, 5% to women's basketball, and then 5% combined for all the remaining sports.

[00:49:21] Now, obviously, each school is going to have their own formula, but that's the general gist of how they think it will be set up. But the problem is, and this is me talking now, the problem is, is Title IX, you know what I'm saying? Because if you've got an athlete like Olivia Dunn, for example, coming through, you can't just give her all the 5% that you set aside to the other sports either. You know, so it gets a little, you know what I'm saying? It gets a little.

[00:49:46] So I think the revenue, from what I read about NIL, the NIL money is money raised. From Bob Boosters. Outside sources for the school. And the revenue sharing is coming from the school. Yeah, the revenue sharing would impact NIL. You know, like I'm not an economics guy, but I figured that. You can still do both.

[00:50:12] You take the revenue sharing, and that goes to the team. So the pool needs to be upgraded, and the swim team gets their cut at 5%. They fix the pool, or they get new uniforms, or they use it to get whatever transportation upgrades. Right. And the same thing for the basketball team. So you use that revenue money.

[00:50:38] So if you get a million dollars for Toledo, $750,000 goes to the football team, and then the $250,000 goes to everybody else. You use that money for what you could do for the team. And then when you have Libby done, you get the LSU alum boosters. They break her off for $1.8 million, or she gets sponsored by Body Armor, Under Armour, or something like that. Right. So then you got, so this goes into effect, the revenue sharing.

[00:51:08] Goes into effect starting July 1st. And initially, it's going to start at $20.5 million. And then it'll go up each year, because so far, this is a 10-year agreement. So annually, it'll get a little higher as time goes on. So now, with all that being said, NIL deals have to meet fair market value. So the only problem is, how do you determine what the fair market value is?

[00:51:37] What analytics or metrics are you using to say that this is fair value? So there you go. So now, the tweet that Mr. Logical referenced that I wanted to read. So I just wanted to clean, yeah, do some housekeeping right there real quick. So yeah, so here we go. This is the tweet. And this is from former NFL quarterback that goes by the name of Sean Salisbury. I'm sure people remember him. He's been in a couple of movies. Yeah, Super Bowl quarterback. You know he went to the Super Bowl.

[00:52:04] All right, so quote, and this is in response to the story about Nico. If this is how we're going to go, this is how we are going to do college football, then they should be able to cut players at any time they want, attach buyout numbers to every player, and put a salary cap on the money available in the portal. He didn't stop there. Time to give these players a taste of reality.

[00:52:28] Also, need to tie academic progress and performance with their ability to get any money. We no longer have college sports, end quote. What say you? First of all, I try to get people's point of view, and I think he's referencing how it used to be. Uh-huh, the good old days. The good old days, the good part of the good old days.

[00:52:58] Not understanding that a lot of people think these athletes were getting four-year scholarships when they got put on scholarship. They weren't. They were getting annual renewed scholarships based on performance. Don't break your leg. Then you rehab for six months. If you're not ready to go, then you don't get your scholarship renewed. You transfer.

[00:53:26] If the coach gets a better job, and they're going to bring in – if they fire a coach, and they hire a new coach, that coach is going to bring in whoever he or she recruited to go to their previous school to come to this new school. It happened when Calipari went from Memphis to Kentucky. Some guys were on the Kentucky roster. Was it Tubby Smith that got fired? No. No.

[00:53:55] Tubby – it was Tubby, then Billy Gillespie, because he got a DUI and got fired, and then I believe it was Cal after that. So Cal came. He sat down with all the guys that were on the roster the year before and said, hey, I think you're a good basketball player, but I'm going to bring in my guys. Yes. So now it was on the transfer portal. He took like eight players off Kentucky's team this year when he went to Arkansas. But that was before the transfer portal.

[00:54:24] So a lot of those guys end up transferring to your small either HBCUs or like Division II schools because if you had to go to another Division I school, you had to sit out for a year. So that was the old way. This is the new way. The realistic way is simply this. You're selling video games, merchandise with Florida Gators and a 15 on it. We know who that is. Currently it was Anthony Richardson a couple years ago. It was T-Bow before that. We know who that is.

[00:54:53] Number one was Percy Harvin. You know, we knew who 12 was at Michigan, but these guys weren't getting a dime, but yet 100,000 people in the stands are wearing all this Michigan gear, paying for these tickets, buying these $12 beers and $8 hot dogs, and the people playing on the field are out there on hope, hope and wishes. I hope I don't get hurt. I hope they bring me back. I hope the coaching staff comes back because I didn't get to showcase myself this year,

[00:55:22] and if I get a new coaching staff that comes in, I don't have anything on film, I'm out of here. Now I got to pick up my life and move and have no money, and I'm not even allowed to get money. I'm not even allowed to work. I'm not allowed to do anything but play football, but yet if I don't get on the field, I'm just out here. So it still might be the case for some guys, but if I'm not one of those guys, if I'm a guy that's like, hey, I'm out here to get this money, do it.

[00:55:47] But the case of life is going to pop with Nico where they say, listen, man, we're not going to pay you more than $2.4 million, and you decide, you know what? I'm going to transfer. Now you're leaving Tennessee, SEC country. They love football. You might go to another place. They don't love football that much. I think USC likes being USC. I'm not sure if they put more into their football program than Tennessee does.

[00:56:16] The facilities, the vehicles, the coaches, the plane, whatever it is, I'm pretty sure Tennessee probably puts a few more shekels into that football pot than USC does. The talent level. So it's like you'll get your rude awakening. I don't think it needs to be legislated that they get buyouts. Because you can leave college if you want to leave college.

[00:56:41] Just because I'm playing sports, it doesn't mean I'm beholden to this university. I could leave. But you would send me away if you got another five-star recruit. This is true. This is true. So first of all, let me go back to the start of this conversation. Because I said that I, because you said that you were kind of torn. Yeah. And I said that I'm not, Nico, take your ass to practice. You're making $2.4 million.

[00:57:10] You're jealous that some dudes that are better than you so far, or at least have played better than you, are making more money than you. So that's first and foremost. Second of all, you know, Tennessee may just have to bite the bullet. Because like I said, the transfer portal opens on Wednesday. And I don't know who's jumping in the portal that is going to be better than what you thought you had when you recruited Nico in the first place. So don't lose Nico over pride. That's the second thing.

[00:57:38] You know, third of all, you know, and I don't mean it disrespectfully to Nico. I just mean that first it was, hey, we're not getting paid. We're being slaves and all this kind of stuff. Now you're getting paid, and now you just want to get greedy too. Because if you wanted more than 2.4, you know, before Carson Beck or Mensah got their money, you could have negotiated higher than 2.4 in the first place. You know what I mean?

[00:58:07] So I think that this does set a precedent that may turn ugly. It might not be Nico, but next year there might be three or four quarterbacks that pull this same type of thing. Yeah, but if you think about if we go top 35 teams, you know, maybe a team that's 35 could do the SMU run and get to the top. There's so many players coming and going.

[00:58:35] The likelihood of you getting this many holdouts because the school still has leverage. I talk about this all the time with youth sports. You can go to any town in America. They have a youth football program. And somehow the shoulder pads and the helmets, hell, sometimes even the practice pants are available from this organization. I don't know where the money comes from or where the equipment comes from.

[00:59:03] But there's a plethora of football players that started out at six, seven, eight years old, and they're going to be at the doorstep of your campus. So when you're out here trying to negotiate, you're replaceable. And even Nico, like there's a quarterback out there that they can get. There's a guy that knows a guy from another school that that's currently on Tennessee that can hit up a friend of his that he went to high school with.

[00:59:32] One might be a backup at LSU. And it's like, yo, dog, Nico was out here a while and he don't want to take 2.4 million. 100%. He's like, yo, dog, give me 1.7. I come up there. And then transfer portal happens. So, like, you can be replaced. So it's a specific slope. 100%, but this is the problem. I would agree with you fully if this was January's transfer portal. We're talking about April now. We're talking about spring football happening. And, you know, Nico knows the system. Nico was there last year.

[01:00:01] So he's not a guy that they just brought in versus a guy that I got three months to try to whip into shape. And I got Bama on my schedule. I got Georgia on my schedule. You know, I lost my best wide receiver already as well. You know, I lost my running back to the NFL draft. And I'm trying to bring in another quarterback to fine-tune and speed up in three months. I don't know if that's worth it. Yeah, because it's a double-edged sword playing a leverage game.

[01:00:29] I just believe that this isn't going to be the standard. Because it's not a winning point. Not standard. But it could happen enough that it becomes a yearly occurrence. It'll be yearly, but it'll be one guy. And then when it goes poorly, it'll be a cautionary tale.

[01:00:53] Because the NFL, before guys were holding out, then the owner's like, cool, we're going to fine you $50,000 a day. But you just said it yourself. If Oregon calls him up, you know what I mean, or whatever, or somebody of that ilk that has that type of money, it may not go poorly. Yeah, so what I'm saying is that if you're Tennessee, you have to understand that the way you know you have a good business deal

[01:01:23] is if each side walks away from the table and they don't get something that they wanted. That's how you know it's a good deal. Because you're going to want $4 million. They're going to want to give you $2.4 million. You're going to have to compromise on $3.6 million. Cool. You didn't get the $4 million. You didn't get the $2 million. You're going to get the $2.4 million.

[01:01:47] You're going to have to understand you're not going to get everything you want because this person has options. Tennessee has options. Nico has options. So you guys are going to have to figure out how to break bread because he could go somewhere else. Maybe it'll work. Maybe it won't. But if he goes somewhere else and he gets his $4 million and he shows enough promise and enough talent that maybe, you know, if he has to transfer again, Florida State calls and says, hey, man, we'll give you that.

[01:02:15] We'll give you $4.2 million to leave Oregon. Come down here. It's going to happen. When you're talent, like it's talent versus tolerance. So Tennessee has to understand, like, listen, you rarely – I don't think they've pulled a lot of five-star quarterbacks out of California in their recruiting history. I don't think that's a common thing for the Tennessee volunteers. So you have to understand that piece. You can look at it like, you know what, we can do it again.

[01:02:43] Or let's get this resolved because if you think about it long term, it's not that much money. Regardless of where he's from. Yeah. So it's like it won't affect you long term. Like I said, that million dollars can be recouped. 100,000 people come to the stadium. Charge them an extra dollar. Well, they already were going up on the ticket prices, remember? Yeah. And they were the first school to do that. The 5%. Yep. So, you know.

[01:03:10] But, you know, as we're talking about football, it's starting to get a little chilly in here. So I'm feeling the draft. You know. So the NFL draft is coming up in a few weeks. And first, let's just take it from the top, Mr. Logical. Let's just take it from the top. Now, you always talk about how, oh, everybody's blowing smoke. Like, don't trust anything that anybody says. So look. Look.

[01:03:38] I think Cam Ward's a good player, right? He ain't Andrew Luck. You know, he ain't Peyton Manning. So are we really convinced that Tennessee is taking him at number one, no questions asked about it? I'm not. Okay.

[01:03:56] I'm not convinced simply because I don't know what the gap is from Shador to Cam in the eyes of the scouts and the GMs. But my eye test, it's not that far off. Okay. You know, Shador has multiple levels of success. He had a down year. He bounced back.

[01:04:24] He's shown, like, Deion was talking about his arm strength. He was like, oh, I know he threw a 50-yard game when it touched down, rolling to his left, and he's right-handed. So I don't know if his arm strength. He did it two plays in a row on top of that because the other guy dropped it. The first, Shepard dropped the first one. Then he rolled out, did it again, rolled to his left, threw a right-handed touchdown. Handling the pressure, handling the scrutiny. I think he does that well.

[01:04:51] I did read a report that people feel like he's too honest in his interviews. I didn't see that. Like, how Deion told the Giants they had all their recruits to take a test. And he was like, what number y'all picking at? They're like 10. He's like, oh, I'm not going to be on the board. I'm going to take this test. And he walked out of the room. Granted, it's probably, like, the fish story that, you know, he just keeps telling every year and it's different. You know. But I'm not sold that Tennessee's taking Canmore.

[01:05:20] Because, honestly, I don't know if Tennessee is a quarterback away from being successful. I'm not sure if somebody else doesn't call and give them an order they can't refuse or a trade offer they can't refuse. And they trade out of one. You know. So, like, there's so many things going on. We looked at it. We talked about it the other day. Shador, you know, sliding. We talked about New Orleans. And we saw the tweet today from Lou Riddick and then Deion put his eye emoji.

[01:05:51] But I think there's a lot of smoke and mirrors. I remember Chicago was trying to do it last year for no reason. It was like, yo, dog, we all know your trade. Like, they could have just traded Justin Field early and then drafted Kayla Williams and didn't smart. But they went to the smoke and mirrors thing and missed out on opportunities to get them other draft picks. So this is the thing. I agree with you that Tennessee's not a quarterback away. I think that Tennessee thinks that they're a quarterback away. Because you've got to remember, last offseason, they went and got LeJarrius Sneed. You know, they brought in Tony Pollard.

[01:06:21] They brought in Calvin Ridley. They brought in Tyler Boyd to play in the slot and be the third down guy. You know, they went and got the linebacker from the Rams and then traded him midseason for another linebacker. So I think that Tennessee thinks that they're right there. Because if you look at their division, for example, right? Like, you got Houston. And, you know, they've been having injuries. You know, Tankdale's been hurt. They lost Stephon Diggs in free agency. You know, they picked up Christian Kirk.

[01:06:51] You know, their running game was nondescript because Joe Mixon was hurt half the year last year. And the way that the NFL works, there's always teams that we see in the playoffs one year that don't appear the next year. So now you ask yourself, do I fear Indianapolis? Because they went out and got Traverius Ward. You know, they still got Anthony Richardson at quarterback. So I feel pretty good. That's 55%, 52% maybe.

[01:07:20] Yeah, and then their backup is Daniel Jones, who you're hoping wasn't damaged with whatever happened in New York. I don't think he even knows anything was wrong. I think he's like, oh, well, you know, it's all over. And then you got Jacksonville, who's still trying to figure out this Trevor Lawrence thing, with a new head coach as well. So I think that— Duval. Duval. So I think Tennessee thinks that they're on the brink of winning this division.

[01:07:47] They're on the brink, yeah, because I think 9 and 8 could win this division. They're basically the—I mean, the AFC South and the NFC South is, you know, second cousins. Like I said, if I'm going to go—I haven't heard anything about Deion saying no to Tennessee and pulling the Archie Manning. Like, hey, we didn't want to go to Tennessee. And he's trying to pick their spots. Cleveland signed Joe Flacco again.

[01:08:16] So that makes it even more complicated. Like, why would you bring in Shador with Kenny Pickett, who was very sour when Russell Wilson came in? So I can't imagine him being very helpful to Shador. So I think Cleveland is probably out of the Shador quarterback market, now that I think of it, with having those two guys in there. Because it's like, Joe Flacco still thinks he can start. Kenny Pickett thinks he can start. And Shador would be better than both of them. But the three of them wouldn't help each other get better.

[01:08:48] Is Travis Hunter really going top three? I think so. I think because if you draft him, right, and he wants to play both sides of the ball, cool. You're going to play primarily defense because we think you're a better corner. And we're going to have you rotate in, slot wide receiver when we – because, you know, New England runs – like, say he goes to New England. New England runs a lot of two tight ends. That's very true.

[01:09:18] He is delusional. But he was a big man on campus at Pitt. And I think that never – you know, when he went – then he got drafted. He got drafted there, yeah. Then he got drafted there. So it was like, oh, I got all these shots. And he's like, nah, dog, like, you're an average quarterback. No, you got one of the goals, dog. And the gloves – like, I think wearing a glove, I think that hurt Teddy Bridgewater too. It was like, yo, take the damn gloves off. But at least put it on your offhand.

[01:09:45] But, yeah, so I think if you're New England and you run – because, I mean, they've been terrible at picking wide receiver playmakers. Like, I think Jalen Polk, like, he had, like, a game's worth of catches all season. It was like 11 catches for 85 yards or something. It's like, don't – you can't – y'all can't call a drag route for him. Including one that would have been a game winner if he could have kept his damn foot. And inbounds. Like, just like, give him the – like, listen, the guy only has five catches in how many weeks? Oh, okay, cool. First down, first possession. Let's call a simple drag route.

[01:10:14] Maybe a little pick play with a tight end. Maybe push a tight end up the field so the linebacker has to carry him up the field a little bit. And let's get the ball in his hands early. Like, I don't know how hard that is as an offense. Like, yo, we drafted a guy. Let's get him some early quick touches. Maybe some outs. Maybe a slant. Something simple. Not that when you got to read all these defenders, like, listen, man, get to the spot. I'm going to hit my back foot and get you the ball. I think Travis Hunter is going to be one of those guys that you could play at corner

[01:10:43] and you put him in wide receiver, especially in New England, and then he could get open to the point where it's like, all right, check me, ask me to throw in the ball. Well, I was shocked because you know how much I love Mina Kimes. And she went on the record and said that Travis is the best wide receiver in the draft. She didn't say he was the best corner in the draft. She said he was the best wide receiver in the draft. That's a little much. I think he's a dynamic playmaker. I think all eyes being on Colorado for two years.

[01:11:14] And he's prudent. So it's like he played a lot of steps. And people are trying to knock that for the Heisman. Like, oh, we're giving this award because he played a lot of snaps. I'm like, yo, he's top five. He didn't just play a lot of snaps. He was top five in two positions. And he played the entire game. Like, that's very difficult to do. If you were playing guard and, like, offensive tackle and defensive tackle, if you were playing both of those and you were the best,

[01:11:42] you were the buckets of war for offensive tackle, and you were All-American and defensive tackle, like, that's very tough. That's a lot of work. Right. That's essentially what he did. So I just think that because he's made – we saw his plays live. It weren't replays because we were watching – most of the country were watching Colorado games, and you saw the forced fumble. You saw the crazy catches. You saw the one-handed catches with a dude face-masking him.

[01:12:10] You saw, you know, him take a screen – take a little bubble screen to the house often. You know, I think that is intriguing. And if I'm New England, I'm pulling the trigger. He's best player on the board at four especially. Well, I was going to say – so let's walk this out for a second. We're not doing our mock draft right now. This is just conversation. So let's go with Tennessee takes Cam Ward. The Browns take Travis Hunter at two. Let's say that. Okay. What do the Giants do at three?

[01:12:40] Do they trade it? Do they – You – Because they got Russ and Jameis, right? So obviously neither one of them are the quarterback of the future though. Correct. So do you trade back and think that you can get Shador later? Or do you just go somewhere else as far as position? If you think – if you think you want Shador, I wouldn't roll the dice with it.

[01:13:06] Because you don't want a team like – The Saints. The Saints. Like, so New England, if you're at four, you played a terrible year. You went 4-13. You probably lose a couple games. You would have the number ones. I think if they went 3-14, it would have been the number one overall pick, right? Like the percentages, something like that. Yeah. So you won an extra game for no reason. It moves you at a number one pick. Now you're 4.

[01:13:35] You wouldn't want to trade past eight. And I don't think Carolina, the Jets, Vegas, or Jacksonville loves, what, Abdul Carter that much to move up to four. To give up whatever they have to give up to four. Yeah, see, that was going to be my next question. I wonder how far he's going to fall with the foot injury that he had that he couldn't do to combine and everything. So – I imagine that we got – right now we're in April.

[01:14:05] Whatever injury he has, he's young. So even if he can't – you don't get him to start the season, you keep him healthy. You're playing 17 games. So as long as you get him with – you get 12 games out of him, if you let him rest for five weeks, you get him in your building, you get him with your doctors. Before you draft him, obviously, you make sure he's going to be able to play this year. I would like Travis Hunter in Jacksonville myself.

[01:14:33] But if you're going to play him at receiver every so often, you know, maybe you could put him with the Giants and have him across from elite neighbors every so often. I don't know. I think Tennessee might pull a whoop-whoop and take a number one overall. Well, if that happens, like, I don't know. I might have to give you some kind of award. They're running back. I might have to give you some kind of award if that happens. So, you know, Ashton Jenty, you know, I'm hearing that the Raiders are interested. The Bears are interested.

[01:15:03] Maybe they play a little tug of war. But I don't know. You know, I think that Omarion Hampton from North Carolina is going to be the best running back in this draft. But I understand the buzz about Ashton Jenty. So with the way that the league is going right now. And how the running back has been devalued. Saquon's bringing it back. Correct. Could you see the Raiders taking him as high as six? Well, I think the Raiders are locked in with their quarterback.

[01:15:31] I think they locked up their two best defensive linemen with getting Christian Wilkins from Miami last year, signing Max Crosby this offseason. I can see them going for a playmaker like Jenty. Because you look at it like, oh, you overdrafted him. I got one pick in the first round. So if I want this guy, then that's the guy I'm going to get.

[01:15:58] Because if you trade out a six, say you're the Raiders, right? Right. Dallas calls you. So they want to move up to six. They want to give you 12. They want to give you 12. They want to give you a second this year and a first and a third next year. Because to get from 12 to six, you got to give up a little bit more. And you're like, oh, no one's going to draft a running back that high. Dallas must want one of these top flight wide receivers still on the board.

[01:16:26] Maybe for whatever reason, Travis Hunter is still potentially on the board. And they call. And you move down. And then Dallas takes them at six. Oh, Lord. You know what I mean? I'm not saying like that's the case. No, I'm just saying that's a nightmare. Like the way they talk about the Lakers, if Dallas gets Travis Hunter, oh, my Lord, don't watch TV for a week. Yeah. Or if they move up to get Gentry. So like you're just kind of hoping that.

[01:16:55] You're hoping that the GMs and the coaches and the scouts believe this. This new narrative that the running back doesn't have value. And when you look at the last couple of Super Bowls, Christian McCaffrey was in there before. Then Saquon. Isaiah Pacheco was a big key to Kansas City's offense. Jersey. Big Jersey.

[01:17:22] You know, so it was like the last few Super Bowl champs ran the ball effectively. They didn't have just some average running back behind them. They had a guy that ran aggressively behind his pads or, you know, a guy that ran well in that offense. So B. John Robinson going eight to Atlanta. He's been the probably the brightest spot. Third meeting record last year. So Andy was getting a lot of touches. Eric Henry with 1,900 yards last year. Tyron Williams.

[01:17:50] And he had 2,000 or yeah, 1,900. Then he had 18. Something like that. Yeah, and then Kyron Williams from the Rams. You know, James Cook. So like these guys are – Right, Reds. That's right. I don't think that really fits. So if I'm Vegas and Ashton Gentry is on the board and I'm looking for a running back, I'm taking him at six. I don't care what Mel Kuyper says about value. This isn't, you know, this isn't go fish.

[01:18:21] I mean, like if he's there and I need a running back and he has great balance and you saw, you know, him in big games with a, you know, a team that essentially is, you know, undersized for lack of a better word. And let's jump around a little bit because news came out today that Derek Carr may not be available in 2025. So as Deion sent out the tweet, you know, number nine just got interesting. So he's not available injury-wise? He may not be.

[01:18:50] Like, yeah, injury-wise. He's got a shoulder injury going on and may not be able to play this year. Sounds like I'm taking my check and they're sending me home. But see, but now you've got to play around because before you could presume, you know, we were presuming that New Orleans would be looking at quarterbacks. But if that's true and he doesn't play and he's not on track to play, now we know that New Orleans is going to quarterbacks.

[01:19:16] So now who tries to play the phone game to jump in front of New Orleans? No one. Nobody? Nobody. I don't see. Nobody? Because Arizona won't do it because they have Kyler Murray. Atlanta won't do it. They just draft a guy. Indianapolis is not going to do it because they got a young guy already

[01:19:46] that they have to figure out. Miami won't do it. Dallas won't do it. Dallas just brought in Joe Milton. Chicago's not going to do it. Seattle just signed Sam Donald, correct? Correct. They're not going to do it. Tampa Bay's not going to do it. Denver's not going to do it. Pittsburgh. That's a long jump, though. That's a long jump. And if I'm New Orleans, I need – if I'm New Orleans and I'm willing to go

[01:20:15] into the season with any other quarterback that's not a rookie, like any quarterback that's available right now, either on my roster or a guy I can call to come to New Orleans and be our starting quarterback, if I'm willing to do that, then that means I got to get the best player available at nine that's not a quarterback. So to trade with Pittsburgh wouldn't make sense because I'm missing out on, you know, 12 talented players.

[01:20:44] Not to mention if I move back that far, maybe somebody else jumps ahead of me and they take a guy we need. Because they need so much. Their defense is old. They don't have any playmakers. I think Taysom Hill was their utility guy. You can't keep relying on that. Yeah, he was always hurt. Alvin Kamara hasn't had a 1,000-yard season. You know, so they have so many holes that if you want to just get your quarterback

[01:21:09] now and then hope that some other rookies you draft, undrafted free agents and some of the free agent signings can fill your team out, you're in a winnable division, so that helps. You're in a position to host a playoff game because your division does have its shortcomings. But if I'm Pittsburgh, I don't know how I get the nine. And if I'm New Orleans, I don't know if I want to go to 21. Yeah, because, like, the market is dried up. So this is the thing, though.

[01:21:37] So now with this dirt car news, could New Orleans jump into the Aaron Rodgers sweepstakes as a stopgap, like a quarterback to just hold it down for a year? I would not do that because they're already old. I know. I know. If you were, let's see, let me see, Pittsburgh. Because there's not much out here. Like, there's Carson Wentz. There's Easton Stick, Teddy Bridgewater.

[01:22:03] There's Pro Bowl Huntley, CJ Beathard, Brett Riffin, Desmond Ritter. Yeah. You're not getting any of those guys. If you need a quarterback, you're going to draft a guy and say, hey, we're going to develop you in our system and hope it works. Or you start Spencer Rattler, I guess, and then bring in one of those dudes that I just said as the backup.

[01:22:29] Unless you know that you are in rebuild mode fully and you're going to dump a bunch of guys. I think they have to be. You know, they lost Lattimore as well. You know what I mean? Like, if you plan on, if they plan on playing out the season and then October 6th for the trade deadline, just unloading all these guys and just. I wonder if they're going to lose Olave. Like, if somebody's going to come for Olave.

[01:22:57] Or do they run it back with Spencer Rattler? You get the best player available at nine. And you wait for number 16 from Austin, Texas to come back and play. Come play at home. Come play at home when your grandfather made his legacy. That wouldn't surprise me either. So. It's not rigged though. It's not rigged though. I mean, it's like they're just going to.

[01:23:26] Like, New Orleans, if they run it back with Spencer Rattler, at nine, you're probably going to go. I imagine at nine, you're probably willing to go to 12 or 13 if you're not going to get a quarterback. If you get a receiver, like to help Spencer Rattler out? Nah, you get an offensive lineman to help Arch Manning out next year. Okay. You build your team to just play out this year and then you're in the sweepstakes for Arch.

[01:23:56] I know we talk about tanking and how it's very tough in the NFL because these guys, every day they put stuff on tape. It's an audition for either. Your next team or. Your award consideration. Because like, you can be an all pro player on a team that's just poor. Right. You can be a linebacker that, you know, has 100, you know, 145 tackles, a couple of forced fumbles on a pick. Even if your offense is being led by a guy who is like Nathan Peterman level bad.

[01:24:25] You can still do your thing. You're talking about Anthony Richardson. I thought we moved on. I said Nathan Peterman. I heard Anthony Richardson. Oh, no. That's it. But yeah. Yeah. So you can, you can still, you can still put good stuff on film. Maybe even get a mid season trade. If you're, you know, six games in and you're already at 62, 65 tackles. So it's hard for NFL teams to just, because it's such a physical game.

[01:24:53] So to tell an offensive guard who has to just block his ass off every down and office of tackle every down, I got to stop Khalil Mack. I got to stop. Why? I got to stop miles scary on all these possessions. And you're like, you're cool with just this below average quarterback losing this game. So we can get another guy next year. That's going to, that's not going to rain well in the locker room.

[01:25:19] And Buffalo, please do not make a trade that helps the Kansas city chiefs. Please don't do that again. I don't think they'll take any call from that state. I've, I've, I've been if a player on a player gets drafted to Buffalo and he has a Kansas city area code, they're going to make him like, nah, you got to get a Buffalo number. I think Denver, we got that area code blocked on everybody's phone when they come in the building.

[01:25:47] I think that, um, Denver, you know, jumping around a little bit. I think Denver may have to get a Marion Hampton. If Ashton Gentry is already gone, because right now coming into next season, they don't have any running back on their roster. That's run for more than 600 yards. So that might be a chance to fill a hole there. You know, maybe you grab another receiver, you know, like, uh, might be a little high

[01:26:13] for Ibuka still from what I've been reading, but Luther burden has quite the range, but let's talk about Ted Arroa McMillan for a second. You know, um, that's the guy, you know, like he's the receiver, the big receiver in his draft that, you know, kills everybody. But I guess he does the Mike Vick thing and doesn't watch film either. Yeah. You guys got to stop talking so much.

[01:26:40] Like, I don't know if I need to just open a PR firm. I might have to because some of these guys and the way they answer questions is ridiculous. I saw a video today. Uh, it was like, they were like some relationship camp or something. And this woman in the audience referred to her husband as like a 50 year old man child or something. And the guy on stage is like, listen, if that's how you see him, then that's means how you approach him.

[01:27:10] And that's how he's going to behave. You're going to react that way because that's how you see him. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So you're like, your words matter. Like you have to speak life into whomever you're communicating with. So when you're a wide receiver, like Gronk said it after he won some Super Bowls, but he was playing with Tom Brady. He did it in his post career interview. Mike Vick did it in his post Atlanta time. Like, let's see, I didn't watch any film in Atlanta. It was super dynamic.

[01:27:39] And then he was like, oh yeah, I didn't watch any film. I just relied on X, Y, and Z. But he talked about it. Like it was a bad thing that I didn't watch film. So for this guy to be a rookie and I watched some of the highlights before the season last year. And I was like, I was like, yo, he is. He is. I mean, he's just a big wide receiver.

[01:28:04] I think he just runs to spots and just figures I'm 6'4", you're 5'11". I'm just going to jump you. Ain't that what Mike Evans does? No, Mike Evans. Mike Evans has a lot of touchdowns in his career and he has consecutive years, a thousand yards. It's not just, I'm going to win this jump ball. Like it's working on route combinations. Ain't what I heard. Yeah.

[01:28:29] I just feel like, like I said, I watched some of his, like his one-on-one highlights or whatever. And this is before the season. I just thought like, yeah, I don't know if that's going to work in the NFL because he just basically just runs up and just gets to a spot and says, throw it up high. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, but a good corner is going to wait for you to get your hands up and it's going to stick it in and just rip it out when you're coming back down on the ground. Yeah. Steve Smith doesn't like him. You know, I did see that video of him like ripping Ted apart.

[01:28:59] I'm a Luther Burden guy. You know, I like him a lot. You know, I just think, what up, Mike? I just, I just think that at this point. What, Mike podcast? It's coaching now. You know, this is the NFL. NFL, you know, you go to the right team, you go to the right coach and teams are either going to make you get with the program or you're going to be out the program. So, you know, I'm not too worried about that. I just hope you don't turn out like Chase Claypool because I thought Chase Claypool was going to be a really good wide receiver because I thought he was that, like that David Boston,

[01:29:30] like that Vincent Jackson, like that, just that, you know what? He can end up being, maybe if he doesn't work out at wide receiver, you're moving to tight end or something like that. I just thought like he had like the frame to be successful. But, you know, you just, if your mental is not unlocked in, then it won't work. But saying stuff like I don't watch film. And I think he was like at an in and out doing this interview. Yeah.

[01:29:55] You know, so it's like even, even that is like, yo, present yourself upright, sit in a chair, sit in the hotel room, get a nice backdrop. And I get that you're doing all this stuff, but you have to understand this is a job interview. Like the NFL doesn't need you. When it was when like Tom Brady said, like, listen, when I got injured and they carried me off the field and they blew the whistle to start the next play. It was like, I'm, I just tore my ACL walk.

[01:30:22] I'm being carried to the locker room and the game just moved on. So I think sometimes talent, man, it gets in your way of common sense. Like I would say talent versus tolerance. If you can't even be bothered to have a professional interview. That was either scheduled by you or your, or your people. Like that's, that's a red flag. That's a red flag for me. Yeah. So, so Mike, he said basically a long story short, Steve Smith said that tech leaves a lot

[01:30:52] on the field and he thinks while he is the number one ranked receiver in this draft, he's not the number one receiver in this draft. So that's a summary of what he said. You know, he said a lot. I felt, I felt that off of his tape before last season started. Yeah. So, so, you know, so we'll see, you know I think Ted is going to be a guy like for real.

[01:31:15] Like I think it's an interview, like everything you say out loud when you are in a. A job interview. When you're in a job interview, like it matters. Like your presentation matters. That's why I like, I get, you don't want, you don't have to do the song and dance and give all these same generic answers. I don't watch film. You can't say I don't watch film while not paying it. Like why not? You know, you're not even like attentive to the people doing it. I get it. You got to eat.

[01:31:45] Then do the, do the interview quickly. I think, I think one of those dudes that the game just comes easy to. So, you know, we'll see, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll see what happens. I mean, ask Travis Hunter about him. I'll just leave it at that. Um, you know, so as, so as we continue on, um, is there anybody that stands out to you? Like, um, maybe a player that isn't being talked about or isn't being talked about a lot, at least. Uh, I got a player I think is making a mistake.

[01:32:14] And I don't know if I mentioned it before, but I was talking about it. I think Quinn yours is making a mistake by entering the draft. I think he should have, he should have looked around and, um, Hey, I got one message for Quinn yours. UPS is hiring. Cause I think he's probably a third round QB. Maybe he's going to be good. Like I thought he was good, but like I said, I think he made a mistake going on how to stay early going to Texas. Um, the defensive end from Tennessee, all the reports came out.

[01:32:44] James Pierce is pretty much unculturable. No, not golden over Tet. Golden is the golden boy. No pun intended though. In this draft. Yeah. Uh, who's the guy that just turned himself in for Isaiah bond, Isaiah bond, which is ironic that his last name is bond. You know, uh, as well. Yeah. Texas guy. Um, like I said, I like, Oh, I like that.

[01:33:13] I think the Raiders though, you don't deserve them. I think Pittsburgh has got to be one of those teams that gets pierced. I think they're going to like, Hey Mike, can you get this guy in line? Six, five to 65. He's like, listen, he just basically, he's basically, it's a tall Antonio Brown. I'm trying to handle that. I'm trying to get Pierce over to land over Maryland. Yeah. But you need the structure. I think Dan Quinn is a, he's a, he's established coach. I think he needs structure.

[01:33:41] As Rob Parker would say, we got the bones. We got the structure. Sure. Listen, uh, I heard a rumor that Philly's going to be making a lot of moves. Don't let him be available where Philly is. Cause they just lost sweat. Um, but they just going to retool. Yeah. So I think Philly, I think, and if you said second round grade, I get it. But Philly is like, listen, we have, we are a first round talented. We're a fucking machine. Yeah.

[01:34:10] So like we can put, we can get anybody in any position we want. If we like them, it was like, cool. We're 32. We don't even need to trade up. We'll take, we'll take this. It's going to be a second round pick. Like we'll take this guy. Uh, the other defensive end from Texas A&M. I liked him. Uh, I know Atlanta. Scorton or are you talking about, uh, Stewart? Stewart. Okay. Yeah. Um, I know Atlanta's like, we always talked about, they're going to get a defensive end. Like I said, I, I prefer to get.

[01:34:38] We had Atlanta thinking, um, I had Atlanta taking Georgia and my little draft I was playing with. If the player goes to Georgia, Atlanta won't draft them. They'll sign them in seven years after he's been on two teams, they'll sign them and give them money. But like, they won't just go down to Athens and be like, yo dog, who you got? Philly will, for some reason, Philly is flying from Philly. Got the pipeline. The Hartsfield airport driving out to Athens and just picking like, yo, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me,

[01:35:07] let me, let me, let me, let me, let me. Georgia still remembers what the Falcons did to DJ Shockley. They ain't forgave y'all yet. But Shaft is a good, you know, he does like behind the scenes, all 22 work for Atlanta. But yeah, like I said, if he goes to Georgia, Atlanta's not going to draft him. So I was thinking about, um, Walter Nolan, you know, from Ole Miss, formerly of Texas A&M. He was the big prize recruit in Jimbo's, that Jimbo class that him and Saban were beefing about. That's God how he does his business.

[01:35:37] Yeah. Him and Emmanuel Stewart at wide receiver. But, um, Walter Nolan is a guy who I think is not getting a lot of talk that I think is going to be a force in the NFL. Like I'm not saying he's going to be Bruce Smith or something along those lines, but I think he's going to be a factor. Um, I brought up a Marion Hampton already. Um, Maxwell Harrison, the corner out of Kentucky. Love him. Love him. Love him. Love him. Love him. Love him. The quarter.

[01:36:03] So the problem with the corners in this draft though, all, most of the corners that I like are coming off of some kind of injury, you know, will Johnson coming off the toe, you know, but he's also small. He also only ran a four or five. So I think teams are going to hold that against him maybe. So he might go a little lower than I think he should. Um, you got Benjamin Morrison from Notre Dame. Is a four or five slow though? Like when you're like, when you're like five, nine, five, 10, I feel like they expect you to be a burner.

[01:36:33] You know what I'm saying? Like if Travis Hunter ran like a four or five, you could live with that. Cause he's listed at six, one. If he's really six, one, you could live with that. But I think, but it's like, remember we were talking about the NBA the other day. We were talking about, um, how the little guard is gone. Like, uh, we were talking about Pettiford from Auburn. So, so it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, you're a good basketball player, but you're going to be fooled on defense and you're not exceptionally fast. You don't jump exceptionally high.

[01:37:02] So, so I think, so I think that if you're a certain metric, they're looking for freak, you know what I'm saying? If you, if you will, um, Benjamin Morrison out of Notre Dame coming off the ACL, but I also love Xavier Watts at safety. Um, and then, um, Siobhan Revell. I, I, he, he told me how to pronounce his name. I watched the video today and it's, it looks like, it looks like Siobhan Revell to me, but it's not Siobhan Revell. He's out of East Carolina.

[01:37:30] He's coming off the ACL as well. If he wasn't coming off that ACL, I think he would be a top 12 pick top 12 to 15 pick, but coming off of that ACL, he's probably going at the end of the first round. So knock, knock. That means you Buffalo. I like, uh, I watched a couple of South Carolina games. I like Kyle canard. Oh, I love Kyle canard. Yeah. Cause I, I watched games through the lens of, man, I think Atlanta could get that guy in the second round, get this guy here,

[01:38:00] get this guy here. Like that guy looks explosive. Uh, Emmanuel worry. Yes. The safety. Yep. From South Carolina. I liked, I liked him. They compared him a lot to Derwin James. As long as he can keep his helmet up and not get penalties like Derwin James. Yeah. He's be racking up. I think he has like an allotment in his check that just goes to fines. Uh, yeah. So like, I like, I like those two players. I like, I like SEC defensive linemen.

[01:38:29] I think they translate well to NFL. Um, because they're, they're the one, they get the least amount of help. Like I think a lot of blind backers and corners benefit from the guys in the front. That's a good name, Mike. Yeah. So I, I like, so like SEC defensive linemen, I think they're working up against either these, the guys they're working up against aren't the most skilled. We talked about George's line last year to average three 50 across the front. Right. Like six, six, three 50.

[01:38:59] So a guy like Kinar battling them, a guy like Pierce battling those guys. I like the trench players. Cause I think a lot of these guys benefit from the pressure that's created up front by the defensive linemen. And we, we know a lot of these guys were just, you know, they're superior athletes. We talked about, I've shared the Patrick Peterson high school highlights. He looked like a man amongst boys and some college athletes are the same way. Like miles Garrett, when he was in college. But like I said,

[01:39:28] I think that's why it just baffles me that Atlanta doesn't seem to end up drafting more SEC guys, considering that you have to see the high school highlights in that area. Because Georgia is probably like top four, top five high school football in the state. I think Florida right there. We got Florida right there. So it's like, how are you not getting these SEC guys? The big, the dude that weighs like 464 pounds from Florida.

[01:39:58] Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think he'll get drafted. Cause like we looked at his production. He had like one and a half sacks and like four tackles for loss in his career. If Bill Belichick was around, he'd be getting drafted. If he could get to three 90 with some technique, maybe, I mean three, like if he's lit, if he's played and lived that, you know, 400 plus pounds for all these years, if you can drop 65 pounds, 70 pounds off of him, because I'm pretty sure NFL could figure out a way to work on his diet.

[01:40:27] So if I'm just wanting to get his strength up, that could be a, that could be a viable, like a fifth, sixth round flyer. I think that's something Philly would do. Yeah. You know what? We got an extra six round pick for this. Let's grab this guy and see if we can just have them next to chilling Carter. Or, or have men on a tush push. Like, I don't know. And just real quick, you know, Denver did pull it out, you know, against Memphis one 17 to one Oh nine, you know, the Joker, you know, he does what the Joker does, you know, 28,

[01:40:57] 16 and 12, you know, 26, 16 and 12, you know, but yeah, so I'm interested in a lot of receivers in this draft, you know, me and Mike, you know, we've been talking about Jaden Higgins out of Iowa state, you know, love him. He's going to be a great receiver for years. But there's a couple of wide receivers that I think are going to go later in the draft that I'm really interested in. You know, I like Kyle Williams out of Washington state, you know, he lost cam Ward, obviously, because cam Ward tuck tail and went to Miami,

[01:41:27] but you know, he still had 70 receptions, 1198 yards and 14 touchdowns. He was one of four wide receivers that had those numbers, you know, along with Jeremiah Smith, Travis Hunter, and the other guy that I'm interested in, Nick Nash, who led FBS and all receiving categories, but he went to San Diego state. So he's going to be a tall slot receiver. I believe. And I just want to see how his career pans out.

[01:41:56] But one guy that I have my eye on, or actually two guys, sorry, two guys that I have my eye on as far as curiosity killed the cat is I like Rashard Smith out of SMU running back. You know, I like him a lot. 1332 yards, 14 touchdowns in their first year in the ACC. And then cover your ears, Mike, you know, saying like, I don't know what it is, but I really like Curtis work out of Indiana quarterback. You know, he, he came from Ohio, you know,

[01:42:26] he has a little injury history, but so does Tyler Shuck, who the drafts are, you know, the draft people are in love with, you know, so I don't know. We'll see. Those are guys that I'm interested in. I like, I want to see where Scadaboo goes. Pause. Is that what you're waiting for? Uh, I like Scadaboo. Um, I think, I think being like, I think for him, I think being a white running back,

[01:42:55] I think being the dog, I think, you know, the fact that he was most outstanding player in the game they lost, which he was, he was, he was the most outstanding player. Um, and if they just play that fourth down better, like, everything's different. Uh, I like, I like his, I don't know, marketability, I guess. I think, I think that's something that you could track. I think that's a, probably a Dallas kind of pick. I think it's a Dallas kind of pick. I don't know. The name's Scadaboo. He is like, you know,

[01:43:25] scat, you know, he's like, it looks like, you know, like, so I like that in, I, I'd like that. He's somewhat an underdog. Um, obviously Henderson and Judkins from Ohio state. I don't know why they're not getting more love. Cause the camera couldn't keep you up, keep up with Henderson against Oregon. There's just so many running backs in this draft. You still got the running back from Virginia tech. There's a lot of that. He was so, and I get it. The Ohio state line,

[01:43:54] they open up, you know, they open up, you know, lanes like, uh, like the red seat. But when he hit that sideline and like the camera can keep up with him, I was like, this is different. This is a different kind of back. And it's like, I think sometimes these backs, they do get kind of downgraded because they, they do play behind great offensive lines, but so did Josh Jacobs. So did Derek Henry. So did Mark Ingram.

[01:44:24] Like you still got to be able to hit the hole because everybody on the team isn't taken into the house. Like those two guys were. And you, and you know what, Mike, I ain't going to let Mr. Logical get away with that either. Cause we ain't going to talk about no running backs and not bring up Kalel Mullins, you know, who, you know, was supposed to take over, you know, uh, he took over for Donovan Edwards, who was supposed to take over for Blake Corum. And, you know, like he just took the job. He was like, this is mine.

[01:44:52] I gave him the ball six times on that game winning drive against USC. It only went 90 yards. You know what I mean? But I haven't heard his name much in this draft process, but that's, and that's just how deep the running back position is. Yeah. Like, you know, like Devin Neal, uh, I think that game, a lot of Kansas game, the game against Colorado. Um, because like I said, when NCAA, when the game came out, you know, like that's some, that's kind of like your introductions, a lot of these guys. And then I'm like, I mean,

[01:45:21] watch some of these games and some, the re the running back position, isn't going to get drafted crazy. I don't think we're going to see a situation where there's a run on running backs where 13, 16, 18, 19, 20, first round, these teams are all grabbing running backs, but they have to recognize like, yo, there's, there's some dynamic talent there at this position. And we saw the Saquon highlights.

[01:45:51] He's a home run hitter. B. John Robinson's a really, really good running back. He's not. I think as long as running ahead of the year, it's probably like maybe 23, 24 yards. If that. So some guys are just really good. Some guys are exceptional. And I just hope that they look and see these guys are as exceptional at their position at the running back positions as the Abdul Carter's, the canards, the technical villains, the cams should doors like,

[01:46:21] and, and, and draft them accordingly. Give them an opportunity. Oh, go ahead. Yeah. We, yeah. We saw it. Like I said, I mean, I keep using Saquon, but even before then Christian McCaffrey, the year before, if they block up front a little better, or both the state's home, he's a super bowl champ as well. And don't, and don't forget, you know, there's still Dylan Sampson, my guy from Tennessee that I was talking all about last year, who could have got some Heisman votes, you know,

[01:46:50] Caleb Johnson out of Iowa, you know, he's got that dark Henry type frame, you know, there's, there's running back Jaden blue, Ali Gordon, there's running backs all over this draft, you know? But last question before we get out of here, Mr. Logical, I just got to ask this because you said what you said earlier. So if you were a team in the NFL draft and you were looking for a quarterback to take on as a project, you draft in Quinn yours this year,

[01:47:19] or you draft in Carson Beck next year. If I'm taking a project, I'm taking Quinn. I didn't, I didn't see when everyone was picking, when the people who were picking Georgia preseason to win the national championship beginning of this year, I was like, I'm not seeing Carson Beck leading them. The people,

[01:47:48] the people, you took Georgia to win the national title. No, I didn't. Yes, you did. I took Ohio state over Georgia. You took Georgia over Ohio state. It wasn't because of Carson Beck. That's what it was. I think it was in spite of Carson Beck. I think I even mentioned it. He's trying to lie to me, bro. The boy. Hold on. I don't. No, don't be lying to the America public. No,

[01:48:20] that's really how it was. I picked Ohio state over Georgia and you got the exact opposite. You picked the exact opposite. I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, okay. I think when we, when we picked our 12 teams, this was like, as the matchups kind of played out as like, I don't see this team. It wasn't like, cause I, like I said, we didn't really believe in Bama. The preseason. So it just was like,

[01:48:47] I just thought that's what I thought they were going to be consistently able to run the ball and control the line of scrimmage and not rely on Carson Beck. Which they were not able to do. Yeah. And that's, and that's when it's, I'm like, no, they can't run the ball. They got, they got, uh, Travis ETN brother. Brother. Yeah. There's going to control a lot of scrimmage with yet with the, the big offensive line. Yeah. So I do remember that, but like,

[01:49:12] I didn't think it was because Carson Beck was going to be the guy that was the reason they won a national championship. Okay. Uh, I thought Quinn, you're was going to be better in Texas. I thought, but I also felt that having arch Manning there was going to be tough. That's what me, you had that argument back and forth about, uh, I feel like, listen, it was a long time ago. I'm an old man. It's like a lot of pills. You know what I mean? So this is evident that, you know,

[01:49:43] I take a lot of medication. I got to take it here. And that's why I'm here. Somebody got to keep you in check. That's why you have checks and balances, man. We could use that in politics. We'll, we'll see that to the side. Uh, yeah. So yeah, I would say, I would take, uh, I'd say Quinn yours. I just think he was a more polished quarterback. Carson Beck just seemed like he just kind of threw the ball into space. And kind of hope. I will say. Georgia player there.

[01:50:11] He didn't have the talent that receiver that Quinn yours had though. I'm pretty sure the Georgia talent and the Texas talent was on par. Georgia's receivers legislation in drops last year. Okay. Well, that's a problem. That's a problem. You know, um, no, I think, I think that I would take Quinn yours as well. Um, the only question I have about him, cause I think he works hard, but you know, I think that he's just injury prone is the big,

[01:50:41] is the big thing for me. Um, so, but then again, Carson Beck just got hurt too. So, you know, who knows, but I'm in the team, a team that's currently in the lead. If they were to draft him, um, I can't imagine him getting before the third round. I can't imagine like a team. Cause we, like, so we look at the draft order, like it's not a lot of teams with aging quarterbacks and it's not a lot of

[01:51:08] teams that need to replace short of maybe Arizona. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe Arizona takes a flyer on them in the third round. They did just get Jacoby Brissett too. But that's what I'm saying. So Jacoby Brissett is not going to be your starter. And if Colin Murray doesn't, you know, perform, you have Quinn yours, your third back, you know, your third quarterback, and maybe you bring him along next year.

[01:51:36] But I mean, maybe Las Vegas in the third or fourth round. Cause you can groom him with time. Tom Brady's too delicious as much as he can be available with his, his day job. But I don't see a lot of teams that would take him because a lot of teams have young quarterbacks, maybe the giants. Well, the other day when we were talking, we were talking about next year being the quarterback draft,

[01:52:06] maybe because, you know, next year you got Arch, Nico, Drew Aller, Lenore Sellers is eligible next year. Garrett Nussmeyer, Cade Clubnick, Sam Levitt, John Mateer, Miller Moss, Carson Beck, you know, so like, at least one or two guys that step up and show you, I think getting a lot of like, was it Tyler shut or from, from Louisville. Yeah. Yeah. So he's getting, so a lot of these transfer guys are like 24 years old and they're going to get their shot. They were like, you know what? He's seasoned.

[01:52:37] He's, he's in his adult body. Maybe we can work with that. Excuse me. Yeah. So, so yeah, like I'm, so I'm looking forward to that too, but this draft is deep everywhere, you know, corner running back, wide receiver, maybe not quarterback so much. Um, but you know, there's not a big, I don't think there's a lot of offensive linemen in this draft, you know, but there's a lot of defensive line talent, linebacker. So I think this is going to be a fun draft. I'm here for it. And more importantly,

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