The Jig Is Up

[00:00:02] Hello, Sports Reports As Ordered is here. Mr. Logical and I'm 2-5. Yes, you are now listening to the sounds of Sports Reports As Ordered. So tonight we got some business to tend to. You know, we're going to get it started with a little get it off my chest.

[00:00:29] Mr. Logical wants to talk some boxing and I got another coach in my crosshairs. Then we're going to talk about the NFL, what's going on in the league. We got our first hand coach firing and it was not Todd Bowles. So both of us got that one wrong, but this guy deserved it. He deserved it. Then, you know, we're going to talk about a little bit of association.

[00:00:56] And guess what, y'all? The Jig Is Up! Harbaugh, you're done in this town. You're out of here. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. You're about to get $200 million. You know what I'm saying? Sports Reports As Ordered here on a Wednesday night. Let's get it started. So, Mr. Logical, you know, like there's a lot going on in the sports world. You know, like we've talked about. It's a lot. It's exciting.

[00:01:26] We got the World Series going on right now. You know, we could crown a champion tonight. You know, still 0-0 going into the top of the seventh. Zach Gallin with the no-hitter so far. First start in the World Series history with zero innings to the first zero hits to the first six innings. That's what just popped up. Yeah. So, you know, I picked Arizona to win this series. So, you know, I'm pulling for them. But, you know, we may crown a champion tonight.

[00:01:52] You know, but first, I guess it's about that time, ladies and gentlemen. Get it off my chest. Talk about some other champions. We'll talk about the other champions, the other fight, the boxing champions. We all saw the reaction. Maybe a lot of people didn't see the actual fight between Nagano and Tyson Fury. I started watching around with the six when Mike texted me saying that he had gotten knocked down. Oh, he just gave up a hit. I jinxed it.

[00:02:22] The commentator jinxed happens. So, uh... That's how you know we made it. You know you get to do the commentator jinx. When you start affecting the universe. You know what I mean? When you start affecting the universe, that's how you know you made it. So, hopefully I can affect the universe in this way. Tyson Fury had the fight with Francis Nagano. It looked... I mean, it looked... If it was two genuine heavyweights, the fight wouldn't have been that exciting. The excitement aspect of it was...

[00:02:52] Nagano is this MMA guy. He's not a big talker. He's not a big, you know, outspoken guy like Acon McGregor. The McGregor-Mayweather thing was crazy. But it looked like he just was methodical. Tracked him down. Cut off the ring. Took some shots. Delivered some shots. And really had Tyson Fury, like, off balance. I don't know how one judge scored it 96-93 with a knockdown. But that's neither here nor there. So, I'm on Facebook at one of our sports groups.

[00:03:21] I have a conversation with a guy. And Eddie Hearn, Anthony Joshua's promoter, said that, you know... Came out and said, listen, Anthony has no interest in fighting Nagano. He was like, he wants to fight for belts and belts only. So, I'm going back and forth with this guy. So, all we really know is what his promoter said. So, I'm having a conversation with this guy. And he was like, man, he should do it. I'm like, what's the upside? Like, there's no reason to fight Nagano. Like, what's the upside? He was like, money?

[00:03:51] I'm like, Anthony Joshua's net worth is $50 million. I think it might have been 50 million pounds or $50 million. I wasn't sure. But either way, it's 50 million. Yeah, so he'll get a little money. But what's worth it? If you want to fight for belts and championships in the heavyweight division, fighting an MMA guy in an exhibition fight is not going to get you there. He was like, how do we know he feels that way? I was like, literally the article said from his promoter, Anthony told me I don't want to do this.

[00:04:21] Like, I have no interest in doing this. I want to fight for belts. He was like, the promoter don't speak for him. I'm like, that's literally what his job is. His job is to, you know, represent his client. His client is Anthony Joshua. Like, that's all we know. All we know is that he said that he talked to Joshua and this is what he said. He's like, man, you steal the money. I'm like, listen, I get it. If they make an offer, you can't refuse. And you want to go for the money, go for the money.

[00:04:48] But if you want a belt, you can't just keep running to this Jake Paul, Logan Paul realm of boxing, where it's just purely entertainment and there's not any cachet to it. And he has way more to lose than Nagano. Nagano lost and got more respect from the public than everybody else. And just like that, Texas is up. He got more respect. Texan Fury looks like he's about to retire again. But does Joshua want to put himself in that position where he's fighting this unorthodox, strong man?

[00:05:18] Because, like, Nagano is not like McGregor. McGregor is probably a strong dude for regular people. Like, he can get in the ring with a regular-sized dude that's 170, 175 pounds. And it's like, oh, this dude's really strong. Nagano is, like, he's carved out of concrete. Like, that's a different kind of African Cameroon. Like, that's a different kind of beast. He's just not the same as McGregor and Mayweather. The two of them together, they were 296 pounds.

[00:05:49] They walk around 296. Nagano is, like, 250. So that's not the same kind of fight. So when we get in these groups, it's like, listen, I get that you want this to happen. But we got to think logically. What makes the most sense for the fighter? What makes the most sense in this conversation? It's like, well, his promoter said that he didn't want to do it. I don't know anything else other than that. So if you don't want to do it, you shouldn't have to do it. It makes sense.

[00:06:17] Tyson Fury kind of let people know, like, this might not be a good idea. So I'm going to run it with that. So Facebook fans, I get it, man. But, like, come on. It's not going to happen. The best case scenario you should ask for is Wilder versus Nagano. Because I don't know if Wilder really has a cachet left to fight for a belt. Because of the way he was dominated by Tyson Fury.

[00:06:43] The way he got dominated, even in the fight that was a draw, we all expected it to be a win for him. So he can do these side case fights. He could fight Logan Paul or Jake Paul if they want to, like, go on heavyweights and make a lot of money off his name. Because I don't think anyone's going to believe that he's going to win a heavyweight championship bout. But Joshua, I think people still got a little faith in him. I would say, you know, stick to your guns.

[00:07:13] And try to get another title shot. Because it looks like Tyson Fury might give his belt up through retirement. So someone's got to fight for it. Well, I need Anthony Joshua to take it back to, like, 2016 or 17. Because him and Wilder still owe me a fight, you know. Like, those two need to get together. That was supposed to be the big heavyweight fight that was going to be the generational fight. And we never got it. So it's time. And they're younger than Pacquiao and Mayweather were. So, you know, give it to us.

[00:07:42] But speaking of Pacquiao, I saw today that Mr. Pacquiao, Senator Pacquiao, might be willing to fight Tank. I'm going to advise Pacquiao to stay up in your office with your suit on. I wouldn't watch that fight if he invited me to Vegas. I love Vegas. Vegas is one of my favorite cities on Earth. I wouldn't watch that fight if Pacquiao invited me to sit in his corner and Vegas.

[00:08:14] All right. We don't want that fight. Like, we don't want that fight. Get the boxing fans what they want. Y'all haven't given us what we wanted in years. Yeah. All right. So get it off my chest. You know, y'all know I had some words for Coach Prime. I had some words for Mr. Sweeney. And, you know, he's still at it, too. You know, he's got people calling into the show. I think it was a plant.

[00:08:39] You know, the dude called the show and was like, Dabo went on about, you know, appreciation. And like, no, appreciation is that $11 million contract you got. That $11 million a year, that's appreciation. You know, you don't get to come out here and go four and four and tell people that they don't appreciate you. You know, like, come on now. But that ain't the coach that I got my eye on this week. I got my eye on Mr. Pat Narduzzi of Pittsburgh fame. And I know what y'all thinking.

[00:09:08] I'm not going at him just because they play Florida State this week. You know, this is legit. But he said the same thing about the Oilers jersey he put on. So. Yeah, yeah. Warren Moon, baby. I was not trying to rub salt in the wounds. I was trying to find something to wear and it just came, you know. Anyway, let me get on with this. So Pat Narduzzi went to South Bend and got bent over. 58-7.

[00:09:38] 58-7, I said. This is a Power 5 team playing against Notre Dame and lost by 51 points. Never mind the fact that Pitt and Notre Dame is basically a rivalry, too. And Pitt has been known to spoil Notre Dame seasons and all this kind of stuff. Forget all that. Let's go to after the game. You know, because Pat Narduzzi always talking about everybody but himself.

[00:10:02] Because Mr. Logical brought it up before where, you know, he was calling out Coach Prime for the NIL and the transfers and all this kind of stuff. You know, and he lost Jordan Addison to USC. So I get why he was upset. But anyway, this is what he said. I don't know if you heard this or not. But this is what he said after the game, after the loss to Notre Dame. Quote, as a football coach, you lose a lot of good players from a year ago and you think as a coach you're going to replace them.

[00:10:30] And obviously we haven't. Again, end quote. So hold on. So last time I checked, this ain't the NFL. Like in the NFL, your GM goes and brings in Jimmy Garoppolo whether you want him or not. You know, like your GM, Kirk Cousins gets hurt, go get Josh Dobbs. You know, whatever. Like this is what your GM does. We'll talk about that too. Yeah, this is what your GM does.

[00:10:58] As a college coach, you are 100% responsible for who is on your roster. These players that are not good enough, you thought they were good enough at one point or another. They were good enough a couple of weeks ago when y'all beat Louisville and gave Louisville their only loss of the season. You know, I guess they weren't good enough when y'all lost to West Virginia in the backyard brawl. So, of course, the players, a couple of players got on Twitter, you know, and they're like, oh, that's crazy. Like, huh?

[00:11:27] Like he said, what? Huh? And so then he comes back after the fact, cleans it up and says, quote, again, it starts with me. I didn't do a good enough job coaching today. Put it on me. We've got to make plays. End quote. That's what you should have said in the first place. Because you know why? You're not Coach Prime. Coach Prime can get out here and criticize his offensive linemen even though I wouldn't do that because they got to protect my son. But I wouldn't do that.

[00:11:56] But, you know, Coach Prime did that. But the difference is Coach Prime has the charisma. He has the personality that can get these guys back on track. You done lost this team now. You know, y'all lost by 51 points, which was already bad enough. And you come out here saying that basically you wish you had the players that you had last year. Now, you should have been in line for that Michigan State job, you know, being that you were the defensive coordinator there before you came to Pitt. But now that's probably gone.

[00:12:27] You know, granted, you know, y'all going to get Molly walked by Florida State this week. You know, during the early season, this was supposed to be an upset alert. It's not. But next week, you know, Syracuse and Pitt at Yankee Stadium.

[00:13:10] I want to see him. The guy called the show. And he talking about, you know, I won two national titles in seven years. And the only other teams that can say that is Georgia and Bama. What did Clemson do for the first 150 years before I came along? And I'm like, hell yeah, Dabo. You know, somehow I was against Dabo. But he said that. And I was like, there you go. Grab your nuts. You know what I'm saying? The problem is, though, is that you're still a whiny brat.

[00:13:38] Because it can't just be, hey, this is what I've done for Clemson. You know, X, Y, Z. End of story. You're like, damn. Versus, y'all don't appreciate me. You know, you're getting $11 million to not go 4-4, to not lose to Miami with a freshman quarterback starting his first game in overtime. You know, to not lose to Duke on opening night.

[00:14:05] You know, like, and you still got North Carolina left, even though, I mean, they ain't looking so good right now. But still, you know what I'm saying? You still got South Carolina in the rivalry game. And oh, by the way, South Carolina pulled down your pants last year. So, you know, like, just get it together, man. And oh, by the way, they get Notre Dame this week. Yeah, you got to check your ego, man. So, you know, but real quick. Leave your ego at the door. Like, come do your job. Yep.

[00:14:35] But real quick, while we on the subject of college football, it just wouldn't be right if we didn't talk about the playoff rankings. Because I feel like, you know, I ain't even set up a banner for this one. Because this is just a get it off my chest continuation. You know what I'm saying? But I want to get Mr. Logical's thoughts first. You know, was there anything that stood out to you? I did. Some of that did stand out.

[00:15:01] That kind of I do kind of appreciate from the committee. We got six SEC schools. We got six Pac-12 schools. Three Pac-3 Big Ten. Five Big 12 schools. I like that. I like that Ohio State's won. Because you're going to talk. You're going to get more in depth with that. You know OKC about to lose this game that I turned off, right? OKC? Yeah, they're about to lose.

[00:15:30] They were up by like 15 when I turned the channel to watch some action. And now they're down by two with 19 seconds left. But, you know, I'm waiting for Lakers and Clippers to get started here. It's a game of runs. You know, but yeah. I think just sports in general, like I said, we spent this whole summer just having a lot of conversations in between filming. Because it was like it wasn't that much going on with sports. It wasn't a lot of big free agents in the summer.

[00:15:59] It was rumored trades. It was like potential injuries. It wasn't a lot of firing. It didn't seem like a lot of like drastic movement that kind of just carried the sports talk through the summer. So we were doing a lot. Since college football and the NFL, now the NBA is back. Now you're wrapping up baseball. And then we have these fights. Boxing is kind of like I've been banging on boxing all year because I'm like, you guys got the momentum. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going.

[00:16:29] Don't slow down. Don't start doing what boxing does. So we've been kind of building this sports momentum all year. I've watched. I got sports on iPad. I have it on the phone. I talk to you about it. My dad's texting me about it. Like we've always talked a lot about sports. But just seeing and watching a lot of it. So college football has been exciting. You got the coaches out there who normally used to just win all the time crying because the transfer portal is starting to like take shape.

[00:16:57] I think the people who have a good grip on how to use the portal. Where to reach. Where to reach. What time to reach. What kind of players are getting. Are they tracking players that like, okay. For instance, Dion. Is that Colorado? Is he tracking players that he might think he can get, be able to pull from Michigan State? Does someone on his staff. I don't know. I don't know how legal it is.

[00:17:26] I know we got the hard ball with the stock signs telling. Are they watching their social media? Are they, if they have NIL deals, did they get their NIL deal through like some kind of agency? Are they building a relationship with that agency? So it's like the people who know how to use these things. That was one of those guys that says, hey, I'm not going to use the transfer portal. He's a fool because he has so much money back with the Nike school and the championships.

[00:17:54] That he really didn't have to really work hard in the portal. So that's what you got coordinators for. You could just put it out there like, hey, K. Klubnik is either not holding his weight or he is, but you know that he has one more year. So he's already, you know, he sat out, you know, he had last year. I started this year. So if you're a quarterback, you're like, you know what? I got three years off eligibility. They don't seem to be pulling in any top recruits.

[00:18:23] Let me take my five-star talent, you know, out to Death Valley. So I think that the coaches are using the portal properly. I think Lincoln Riley uses it. He uses the fact that he's in California. Dion talked about how he got Travis Hunter to sign at Jackson State. He's like, I brought him down for homecoming. He's like, that's all. He's like, that was it. He came down homecoming weekend. He's like, I had him.

[00:18:50] He's like, as soon as he got out to campus and it was homecoming weekend, he looked around. He said, I looked at him and I was like, I knew I had him right then. You know, whatever advantage you have to use legally, of course. So I think sometimes like these coaches that aren't really charismatic, a lot of these coordinators, these X and O's guys, you might not be able to do it. But I see a guy like Cliff Kingsbury getting a job and being able to use, like, you know, he's a tall, handsome, former quarterback, still in good shape.

[00:19:20] You know, like just he could be, you could just put him on TV and your mom might not know anything about football. But she's like, who's this coach? Like, oh, that's the coach that Michigan State and I. They sent me a recruiting letter. So, oh, really? I like him. He seems very charismatic. Now you're having a conversation with him. Dion, the same way. So, you know, Nick Saban has that old preacher kind of swag to him, that Southern, I bring you chicken and macaroni and cheese to the meeting kind of like swag. Yeah.

[00:19:49] And a nat on a dog's ass. Yeah. So, like, exactly. I mean, he messed it up at first. But he was, because when he said that, I was like, I don't know, he might be trying to slide that Arkansas quarterback over. I'm like, come on, man. Come east a little bit. I got you. But, yeah, so I think college football is in a good position. I think these rankings we're going to talk about, I'm pretty sure they're going to talk about it between now and the weekend. Why isn't Georgia number one?

[00:20:18] Why is Oklahoma not above Texas? But they have so many more games to play out. That's the best part. The BCS was crazy because it seemed like no one really knew the formula. And all we knew was, like, the top two teams were going to get it, and it was going to be very generic. Like, now it has to play out. Like, I know Alabama is eight. They're going to play LSU.

[00:20:45] And the winner that someone's going to have to, the loser that's going to drop. Well, you know, that's the funny thing that people always tell me. They say, bring back the BCS. The BCS wasn't biased. The humans still came up with the formula. Like, the humans still decided what they wanted to track. They came up with the formula, and the simple way was, like, what was it? Strength of schedule? Yeah. Well, the strength of schedule is based off the AP poll, which is human, which is almost, it almost felt like that was exclusively.

[00:21:16] I don't know what the formula was, but that felt like it was 65% of the pie. Well, I know that, like, there was one year the BCS pissed me off because TCU and Boise both finished undefeated, and they made them play each other in the bowl, you know, instead of playing somebody else because, you know, can't, you know, can't have that happen. And Boise, can a team from Idaho be the national champion? Yeah. But, you know, looking back at these rankings, though,

[00:21:45] so, Mr. Logical is correct. I have no problem with Ohio State being number one because I looked at the schedule. Because everybody talks about this. Who has the best win in college football? So, is it Texas' win over Alabama? You know, is it Oklahoma's win over Texas? Is it Washington's win over Oregon? Who has the best win? And Ohio State said, we got two of them. We got Notre Dame and Penn State. Holla at your boy. You know what I'm saying?

[00:22:15] Y'all are arguing about the best win. We got multiples. So, I'm fine with Ohio State being number one, even though I will, full disclosure, admit that I don't think Ohio State is the best team in the country. You know, but that's not what the rankings are. The rankings are not two fives opinion. You know, we take what happens on the field and we apply it. So, Ohio State... Yeah, but I thought the college football playoff was the whole,

[00:22:43] if you put these two teams on a neutral field, do you think Alabama's better than Ohio State? Because that's what it boils down to. I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that. It gets close. When it gets tight, that's the kind of... Well, you know why? Because every year, every year the committee changes. So, you know, it's just like when we were going up for these master sergeant boards and all this stuff, and the one year, they're like, we want the whole airman concept. And then the next year, they're like, where's the education?

[00:23:11] Man, one year, I went up, I got my board score, and then somebody sent me a PowerPoint slide breaking down all the point system and everything else, which you had to have, so I worked towards that based off of that. Then I got my board score the next year. Luckily, I still made it, but my board score was 15 points lower than it was the year before. Because they changed people that valued different stuff. Yeah. That was life. So that's why every year... Good thing I scored well.

[00:23:41] So that's why every year, the conversation becomes, you know, on the playoff show, the conversation becomes, is it the four best teams or is it the four most deserving teams? You know, and that's where you get into the window of subjectivity because I can tell you, even if I say who the most deserving teams are, it's still biased by whatever I value. If I say who the four best teams are,

[00:24:08] it's biased by who I watched and thought was the best. So like we talk about Michigan, how they played nobody. You know, Michigan has had 61% of their snaps this season with at least a 14-point lead. That's good enough for being number one. I mean, even though they haven't... That's the argument. That's the piece you can say, you know what? We are so good that almost two-thirds of the game we're up.

[00:24:38] So you get to eight minutes in the first quarter, we're already up 14 points. Right. Like, that's crazy. But the problem is, is that you play that game, right? What's Michigan's best win? Then you're like, Rutgers, maybe Nebraska, maybe UNLV, who's 6-2 because they lost to Fresno State the other day. You know, so you can have that argument. Georgia, do you put them at number one just because they are the defending national champion two times over? You know, I say no.

[00:25:08] A lot of people say yes. They feel like the champ is the champ until they're not the champ. Only problem is, it's a different team. You know, that's the only thing. If Stetson Bennett was back, maybe that's a conversation because we've seen it before. But we got a whole different... We got a whole lot of defensive players. You know, Florida State had the win over LSU. And I feel like people are holding the BC game against Florida State, even though that was like five weeks ago. You know, people are still holding that game against Florida State saying...

[00:25:37] But I think they're properly positioned. No, I think so too. Because you have... But I would probably put them in front of Michigan. But you have Michigan's dominance. Right, right, right. And Michigan's... Like that stat you just mentioned, Matt. Mike always comes through with the stats. I'm going to start calling you Matt with stats. But yeah, Mike always comes through with the stats. So being essentially dominant in your performances, because every team has played a team,

[00:26:06] every top team has played a team that's a couple of tiers below them, because they are so much better than the rest. You know, Georgia's that much better than the rest of the field. Michigan, Ohio State. And they've all played teams where it could have been close. It could have been tough. Michigan's like, nah, we're not even... We're not even entertaining that idea of a close game. They didn't have their head coach for the first three games. And they didn't miss a beat. That's how good of a team they are. And they were switching to head coach. Coach, like,

[00:26:35] this week it's you. This week it's you. Yeah. I think that, ironically, their legal transgressions, which caused them to lose their coach and his availability, and they still come out and dominate, that's a testament to how good of a team they are. Florida State has LSU, and I think people feel like LSU's the darling. And I think people are wishing that LSU only had one loss. That because... See, and that's the other part of the argument.

[00:27:05] They got two losses. One of them was the us. But he's having the best season as a Heisman candidate with one loss. Caleb Williams, two weeks ago, would have been behind Michael Phoenix Jr. and Caleb Williams. Both would have been behind Jay Daniels because of the season that he's having and the team that he's playing and his projected schedule of playing SEC schools. So I think that would have been

[00:27:35] probably perfect because that would have just moved Ole Miss out. I don't really think people really want Ole Miss in and probably at the end of the year, Ole Miss is going to play three, maybe four losses. Well, they got A&M this weekend at home. They go to Athens next week to get some of the Bulldogs. Yeah. They still got the Egg Bowl. They're like the type of team that will stumble and lose a game and just play poorly and just lose a game to Texas A&M or play poorly and get dominated by Georgia, something along those lines. So the old,

[00:28:05] like LSU, just, their defense is just, was not on par in the Ole Miss game. And against, you know, Florida State, like I said, you got a 22, 23-year-old quarterback that's kind of understanding thing. It was the first game, you know, early game, early season game. So I don't think people hold it against them because Florida State is a top four, potentially top three in your opinion team. It's just unfortunate that the losses have to count. Right.

[00:28:34] They have to count. They have to be rated accordingly. Got them. Have to be rated accordingly and we have to just accept the fact that the college football, no matter what the format is, if you are a power five school and you are perennially a top team, if you go undefeated, you're in. If you have one loss, you better hope four other schools have one loss. But,

[00:29:04] simple, you gotta go undefeated. No matter what the format, the score sheet, the voting, you gotta go undefeated in order to solidify your position. If you're outside of that, Air Force, Cincinnati, Tulane, Houston, one of these other teams, yeah, it's gonna be, you might get invited or you might get a real nice bowl game. Well, USC's got a, well, USC's got a chance to flip all this upside down because they got Washington

[00:29:34] coming into the Coliseum this weekend and then next week they go out to Autzen to play the Ducks. So, USC, win one of those two games, they shake up the whole top five. You know, if they beat Washington, now we have that conversation of Oregon and Washington because Washington beat them head to head a couple of weeks ago in Seattle. No, that means the Pac-12 starts at 10. That's all I mean. Look, legit, like, I think, because we talked about this before with the TCU, Ohio State,

[00:30:04] and Baylor when the first iteration came out. And it seemed to follow that same path. They keep everybody in there initially. A lot of SEC schools are up there so that, you know, the head-to-head matchup and the strength of schedule argument is like, oh, you mean to tell me that Georgia can't get in what they have? They only have one loss and that was a number six ranked Alabama. You know, that argument

[00:30:33] or Alabama lost to this team but they came back, you know, like that back and forth antiquated argument. so I think they set up that way but if you're like a Pac-12 team or Big 12 team and you, you're near the five, six, seven range and you have a slip up, you're going to nine. Mm-hmm. And if you're, and if you're another team and you're like eight and you already have one loss at eight

[00:31:02] and you lose, you're going to 12 to 13. and that's going to elevate all those other schools. It's just, it's just, it's just the way that it works. I don't know if it's a region, if it's the regional part of it. I don't know if it's the matter of what team, which teams travel better, which teams are hotter, which teams generate more money as far as television because if we had a hypothetically, they just would say, hey, all right, undefeated teams are in the top four

[00:31:31] and you got number one, Ohio State versus number four, Air Force, because Air Force is undefeated. Like, Air Force doesn't even fill their own stadium in Colorado Springs. They're not filling a stadium in Arizona. Jerry World. They're not so Jerry World. You know, so it's like, we got to be realistic to, yes. Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, it's a business. It's a business. It's a business. That's why we're going to 12 teams next year.

[00:32:01] That's why we're going to 12 teams next year so we can get more money. You know what I mean? so. Because you're not going to, the 12th seed is not going to win it all next year. Right. It just, just is not the kind of, college football is not the kind of sport with a, where the, Cinderella wins it all. So I was trying to look down the list, look down the rankings and try to find, is there a one loss team that's out there that's not in the top

[00:32:31] four or five right now that can crash the party? You know, and, you know, before the season started, I said Louisville was going to be the closest thing to TCU that we have, but I don't think Louisville is going to get high enough to do it, you know, but, so the only team that I can really see down here is Penn State, you know, because Penn State still has Michigan and Ohio State, or I'm sorry, they already played Ohio State. They still have Michigan in front of them. So Penn State, you know, gets by Maryland this weekend,

[00:33:01] you know, I think, and then they set up the match with Michigan next weekend in Happy Valley. Penn State as your potential, they can crash it? Yeah, I mean, I don't think they will, but I'm just saying, like, they just have the schedule to do it because they play, you know, Michigan. And then of course, let me check out Ole Miss real quick, see who they can disrupt real quick. Ole Miss got Georgia next week, so I'm eliminating Ole Miss just off of that. I mean, yeah. I mean,

[00:33:31] they could beat Georgia, don't get me wrong, they got the talent. They won't disrupt it. Right. They won't disrupt it because Georgia will just go to five. Right. And then Ole Miss would probably just lose somewhere else down the line. Yeah. You know, they already beat LSU, they already lost to Bama. So like I said, they got A&M this weekend, they got Georgia next weekend. So, you know, you'll just have to go from there. You know, looking at Oregon, everybody seems to think that we're going to get this Oregon-Washington rematch in the Pac-12 title game,

[00:34:01] you know, but all it takes is for Caleb Williams to get hot next week and all that's done. You know, but you look at Texas and Oklahoma, you know, they got that head-to-head situation. Is Caleb Williams' heart still in it though? Well, this was, this is my thought. This is my thought. We'll find out this weekend. And the reason that I say that is because he's got Penix coming in there who is either a Heisman front runner or number two or number three.

[00:34:31] So, as a Heisman guy, you know, or as the Heisman, or still a guy who has Heisman aspirations. Yeah. Yeah. Do you take that personal? You know, like, do you take it personal or you can be a number one quarterback? Number one pick overall though? You know, maybe Penix take, maybe that's Penix's, you know, like, that's Penix's take personal. Yeah. But Caleb Williams, I mean, I'm pretty sure he's going out there and playing hard because you can't, you can't survive

[00:35:00] in this game without playing hard. Right. The only way you can survive without playing hard if you are on the bench. Right. If you're on the field, you have to go 100%. That's why, like, I tell, like, I tell the moms when they want their sons to play football in our youth league, I'm like, I get that you're worried about your little baby. But I'm like, yeah, he's probably going to get rocked. He's probably going to get run over. But I'm like, but if he's meeting that aggression that's required to play the sport,

[00:35:31] it won't be catastrophic. It won't be fearful. The kids that run backwards or the kid that doesn't pay attention or the kid that's afraid to get tackled and they're like, they're doing this. It's like, you're only going to get yourself hurt. So you got to play. You got to play hard. So I think he's going to play hard. Well, the other part of this is that USC is not out of the Pac-12 race yet. You know, they lost to Utah. Their other loss was to Notre Dame. That wasn't a conference loss.

[00:36:00] Is he going to play? If they, at this point, if you're not, if you win the Pac-12 championship and you're not Washington or Oregon and you're out of one loss, one loss max, if you win the Pac-12 with two losses, you're going to the Rose Bowl and you're probably going to play. You don't play the Rose Bowl. You just don't play the Rose Bowl. But that's the thing. Like the whole

[00:36:29] allure of the Rose Bowl is that the Pac-12 or Pac-10, Pac-12 championship. No, that's old school. That was, that was the 90s. We don't do that no more. So then if you're not, if you're not, if you're, if your goal is to win the Pac-12 but not play the Rose Bowl, I don't know how you have the goal of playing hard to win the Pac-12 if you don't care about playing the Rose Bowl. I don't know. We've heard reports of like the influence that his father has as far as in these conversations, which is rightfully so. Well, remember they played for the Pac-12 title last year, you know,

[00:36:59] and you know, he got hurt. Yeah, but he got hurt and then you talk about him. They would have been in the, they would have been in the college football playoffs. That's the difference when they're already sitting on two. That is, but, but you know, we'll see, you know, I like the whole, that, that competition takes over. You know, that's my hope, but you know, now let's take a journey around the NFL because there is some news going down in that league. We got Mr. Josh McDaniels back in the

[00:37:29] unemployment line, probably going to find his way back to Foxboro somehow, some way, but, uh, he gone, you know, Antonio Pierce as the interim coach, you know, Champ Kelly is the GM. Mark Davis doing his best to honor our shell. Jimmy Garoppolo on the bench for Aiden O'Connell. They got the Giants this weekend. Antonio Pierce against his former team. Like, I, you know what? Like, it's not rigged. It's not rigged. Yeah,

[00:37:59] it's not rigged, right? But, but I always tell, I always tell Lindsey all the time. Sports is so poetic at times. Like, like, what are the chances that when, you know, you get on the Raiders staff, the coach is going to get fired and your first game coaching is going to be against your former team. Like, what are the chances of that? The, so, Jeff Saturday, his first game was against the Raiders. Yeah, go figure, right? See what I'm saying?

[00:38:29] Like, you can't even make that up. It's just, I don't, like I said, I've never been an advocate for people getting fired 1-0 still in Arizona. I've never been an advocate of people getting fired, but, like I said, I probably beat this word to death and I'm going to keep doing it because my mom used to call me Mr. Logical. Josh McDaniels

[00:38:58] probably should have never gotten hired by the Raiders in the first place. He shouldn't have got hired by anybody after what he did to the Colts. Exactly. You, you, and I get, like, we'll talk about, you know, Byron Lefkowitz. He told the, he told him, like, listen, I don't think the GM's doing a good job, so bring in another GM and I'll take the job. And they were like, nah, I was going to go with Doug Peterson. And it worked out for them right now as we,

[00:39:28] as it currently sits. But what I'm, what I'm learning about NFL and these conversations and what I've noticed is that there has to be a three-tiered marriage, for lack of a better word. Not really the owner. I think the owner gets their money from whatever. The GM, the head coach, and the quarterback. Either they have to be all hired together

[00:39:58] or they have to, two of the three have to sign off on the one. Because it has to work that way. Because a lot of times we talk about Justin Fields as being part of the trade block. They're like, he didn't get drafted by this staff and GM group. Mm-hmm. like he, so because he's the odd man out and he's in that quarterback position,

[00:40:27] it makes it tough. If you get a new GM in, you keep the head coach and then that GM drafts a quarterback, it's like, okay, well, the coach is the odd man out. And it becomes a part where it's like, okay, someone's gonna have to go. One of those three people is adversely affecting the success of your team. I'm saying, I'm not saying offensive line doesn't matter. Offensive line coaches doesn't matter. But as far as like,

[00:40:57] when I'm breaking down, who can I get rid of to make the most immediate impact, whether to get rid of the piece that's not working or maybe bringing a piece to improve it, the head coach, the GM, or the quarterback. They fired the GM to fight the head coach in Las Vegas and they benched the starting quarterback. You're gonna have to start all over. So, I don't know how much you gotta buy Jimmy Garoppolo out for, but you might as well just go ahead and call it

[00:41:28] and let this young rookie quarterback play it out and then see if the new coach and GM that you paired together, do they believe in the quarterback or do you take your, what we're gonna call it, your 4-13 record, your 5-12 record and some other assets and go get Drake May? Because as of right now, firing a head coach and a GM

[00:41:58] and benching your starting quarterback, you're positioning yourself to be a top five draft pick kind of team anyway. So, do you play this year and see what you have? Do you move Devontae Adams? Because you're gonna move Devontae Adams in all season. You're gonna move Max Crosby because you're gonna have to either move one of them to move up to move up in the draft or you're gonna have to move one or two of them to get the picks to then move up. Something's gonna have to give and granted, you probably can't do it

[00:42:27] and you couldn't do it now because of the money. Which is wild in the first place because like, you know, people said they were calling for Devontae Adams and they just didn't even get an answer, you know. So, you know, I just don't get the point. Like, you know, just like when I look at Washington, you know, for example, like trading Chase Young and Montez Sweat. So, I understand it from the standpoint of, I guess, procuring extra picks.

[00:42:57] Because they both were gonna walk. Well, I don't. Chase Young was gonna walk. Well, I don't think Chase was gonna walk. I think they weren't gonna offer Chase anything. Yeah, same thing. So, like, yeah, I mean, they got a third round pick for him, you know, for a team that probably didn't even need him. And this team just got Randy Gregory a couple of weeks ago. You know, so, San Francisco. I think they're gonna run the ball a lot in San Francisco with Brock Purdy. Oh, they're definitely gonna run the ball a lot. Brock Purdy will be,

[00:43:27] he should be in concussion protocol. I saw how he grabbed his head when he got sacked on that one play. I think it was a rough in the passer call, but he grabbed his head. You see who first in the West, right? What? The Clippers? No, no, I'm talking about the NFC West. Seattle? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Right here, this guy right here. You know, so Leonard Williams, Leonard Williams pick up, you know, and they picked up Frank Clark

[00:43:56] a couple of days ago. So I think Seattle's trying to go all in for lack of, I mean, obviously they don't have the quarterback still, but for the most part, I think they're just trying to go all in. They paid the quarterback over a hundred million dollars. I think they think they got the guy. Maybe. You know, maybe they think they got Russell Wilson Jr., you know, like, but like the younger Russell Wilson that don't make mistake Russell Wilson, you know, or do you have a more athletic Trent Dilfer? Oh, no. Is that, if you bolster your defense enough, can you get the pass rush

[00:44:26] and you have a more athletic? It's just weird because I feel like they have the receivers. You know, I like the running backs, you know, but G knows my question mark. It might just be the scheme. It might just be that their offensive scheme is so vanilla. That's why that whole let Russ cook situation. it reminds me of Nick Wright when we were talking about, remember he said, would I be surprised if the 49ers lose a playoff game and Brock Hurd was the reason? Like,

[00:44:55] that's how I feel about Gino. Like, if Seattle loses in a playoff situation, am I really going to be shocked that the offense put up 10 points? Yeah, but I think that might be that might be more on Pete Carroll and the lack of his offensive creativity, you know, just imagination. What Kyle Shanahan has been doing every year

[00:45:25] after year is he's gotten more athletes and he's putting them in these different positions. He does, I think, Mike McDaniels, because they're from the same coaching tree, McDaniels, they seem to run a lot of single back, a lot of play action, a lot of tight end stuff, so I think he, they all kind of got their influence from the same place. I think McDaniels just kind of took a lot more of what Shanahan did. So Shanahan has a lot of good route runners and he has running backs,

[00:45:55] wide receiver combos. McCaffrey is a running back that can do wide receiver stuff. Debo is a wide receiver that can do running back stuff. He tried to get the quarterback with Trey Lance that can do running back quarterback stuff. Like he's, he's trying to create these hybrid guys where you got Kittle. Trying to play positionalist football. George Kittle. I keep messing, I've messed it up a few weeks ago, my bad, Kittle, 85, where he can do, when he can block on the end next to Trent Williams. I know, I know. He can play

[00:46:25] like wide receiver. What's up? I know, you know, we don't got to worry about the 325 points no more because apparently Brian Ferentz is out of there. Yeah, I mean, if you have, if you got that kind of stipulation going into the season, they don't want you. Like, yeah, so it's like when you text, if you're texting a girl and you're asking what her plans for the weekend are and she's telling you how busy she was at work all week, she don't want to see you that weekend. Yeah. What you doing, Ricky? You know, I'm really busy.

[00:46:54] Daddy going to be out of there too. But back to the NFL. Here's a question for you. Are we going to see Kyler Murray at some point? I doubt it. As you know, as you know, Josh Dobbs is in Minnesota now and the only other quarterback on the roster at this point before we recorded, I looked it up like two hours ago. You know, the only other quarterback on the roster is the rookie fifth round draft pick Clayton Toon. So it's like, okay, like play the rookie, lose a bunch of games, you know, all that stuff, you know, but I'm like,

[00:47:24] you could have just did that in the first place. Yeah, that that's that's a peculiar move. I didn't I remember seeing but I'm not sure exactly what they got for Josh Dobbs. They got I'll tell you right now. I will tell you right now. They got so they sent Dobbs and a seventh round pick and got back a sixth round pick. What?

[00:47:55] What? They traded a starting quarterback and a pick. Yes. I got a sixth round pick back. Yes. How many picks does Arizona made to trade with Houston, correct? Correct. So they have Houston's first round pick for 2024. So this next upcoming draft and the 2025 draft. You maybe you had me doubting myself. I had to check myself. That is correct. Dobbs and

[00:48:25] a seventh round pick in next year's draft. To Minnesota. Or a sixth round pick in next year's draft. Okay. So they moved up around and got rid of a quarterback. And then what do they have? So as of right now, Carolina has another one pick. Arizona has two.

[00:48:54] Houston's probably three. Chicago, maybe? Chicago's mixed in there. I think Chicago's only win is Washington. Chicago has Carolina's pick. That's what it is. So Chicago probably has two picks. Yeah, because everybody was saying that they could get Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison. So they got one. Marvin Harrison. I'm going to say that name around here. So they got one and potentially three or four. So they have two of the top four picks.

[00:49:26] Arizona has Houston's picks as right now. I think that's looking at number two. Going to the top of the ninth. Vegas is trying to get in there to get around five. So if you can't get Caleb Williams, will you go on Drake May? I would think so. How do you tell? Like, how do you tell? If I'm a I'm a I'm a new coach. I got this football team. I got a bunch of guys that what's the

[00:49:55] percentage? There's like 35% of NFL rosters turn over every year. How do you tell a group of guys that I need you to play hard while management is publicly throwing in a towel on this season? You just tell them like, hey, the best thing I can tell you. You're not hard on special teams. I need you to show up for practice. I need you. No, no, this is what you tell them. This is what you tell them. Hey, son, how bad you want to be in the NFL? And they say

[00:50:25] whatever they say. And then you say, well, it's time for you to start auditioning. You know, that's the conversation. It's time for you to get to get on film and show some team. All those good teams that whooped our ass this year, they're going to need new players too. So anytime you play the Chiefs, make sure you try to pick Patrick Mahomes off or you get a good hit on Pacheco or you beat their safety on a deep route. So next year when they need a player, they're like, remember that game that guy had

[00:50:55] 120 yards achievement on us? This is more incentive for somebody like Josh Jacobs to go out there and run for 800 yards for the rest of the season or whatever. You know what I mean? this is that chance now because now you're in that Chase Young window if you're somebody like him where we knew he wasn't coming back to Washington next year. I just realized guys like, I know you said

[00:51:24] Chase Young and I was like, so you mean to tell me you have Eric Armstead, Drew Greenlaw, Bosa, Bosa, Chase Young, Chase Young, Randy Gregory, Fred Warner, Randy Gregory, Ward, the scheme. He's going to just run those dudes out there and it's like, hey, let's play a fair game of football against the Cardinals

[00:51:54] that just get away and start going back for peanuts and a ball of Gatorade. Yeah, that's why I told somebody, I told one of my 49er fans today, he said, what are your thoughts on the trade? Are you upset? And I said, I'm just going to pray for Trevor Lawrence because you know that's what San Francisco got when they come off the buy. If they lose that game. Oh, that's going to be all hell going to break loose then. But, but, but, you know, Donner against Cincinnati. Is Joe Burrow back? Is that calf good? Yeah.

[00:52:24] He completed, he completed, he completed 82% of his passes against the 49ers this past weekend. So we're not doing prediction now, but we got Buffalo Cincinnati who needs it more. Buffalo needs it more. You know, I think Buffalo put him under 500. No, I think Buffalo needs it from a mental standpoint, you know, because like we talked about, like they think that they're on that level with Kansas city and Cincinnati. Like we're right there with them. But you got to beat them, but you got to implode.

[00:52:54] You think they're going to implode if that, I think it's a possibility. I think it's a plus remember that's the same field that the DeMar Hamlin thing happened last year. So it's going to be emotional too. Yeah. So like, I think Buffalo needs this like Cincinnati. They do this every year. You know, like we talked about it like last year. Burrow played the first four games like he was suspended. Yeah. He threw four picks against the Steelers opening week last year. They started 0 and 2 and boom, boom, boom. You know, this year,

[00:53:24] you know, like they started 0 and 2. Now they're 3 and 1 in their last four games. So this is what Cincinnati does. So if they lose, Cincinnati's like, yo, we just got to take care of our division. If Buffalo loses, they got to keep pace with Miami and oh, by the way, the Jets got a tiebreaker over you, you know, and the Jets are 4 and 3 now. They're probably going to make the playoffs, aren't they? I mean, the fact that, I mean, like I said, over half the league makes the playoffs.

[00:53:54] Well, close to half. Close to half. Think about it. If Miami, if Miami goes into Kansas City this weekend and wins. Oh, Germany. I'm sorry. If they go into Germany and beat Kansas City. Oh, no. Sorry. Oh, I know. I know. Are you watching the baseball game? Yeah, I'm watching it. Oh, man. I got a pop quiz for you to see if you were watching the baseball game in a little bit. But, but yeah, so yeah, I was paying

[00:54:24] attention. I'm multitasking over here. My bad. I looked over it when the ball went under his glove. So he got a little ground ball to center field center fielder looked up ready to make a throw thing is glove all the way down ball because underneath his glove. Yep. Three zero the wall. Oh, goes right past his glove. But, uh, but if Miami goes knocks off Kansas City and then you lose the Cincinnati and when we look at the

[00:54:54] standings on Monday morning about the pull it up right now actually because I forgot the records. I know the Jets are four and three. Miami would leave that game. Yeah. So Miami six and two right now, Miami six and two Buffalo's four five and three and the Jets are four and three. So, so this is the thing. So Miami wins that game against Kansas City. They're seven and two. If the Jets beat the Chargers, which I'm not saying they should, but you just never know what

[00:55:24] Stanley going to do. But if the Jets knock off the Chargers and they have the tiebreaker over you and you're tied with them in the lost column right now and you go lose that game next week, you're basically two games behind the Jets. Two games behind the Jets. AFC West is only going to get your one team in. Uh-huh. So that's, that's a bonus. So somebody's getting three teams in. It's either going to be the East or the North.

[00:55:53] Because the North is going to eat them. Well, because you got Baltimore and Cincinnati and then maybe Cleveland, maybe Cleveland or Cleveland, Cleveland, I guess. I don't know. I don't know. Watch this out indefinitely. Yeah. Yeah. So they're done. So his contract's guaranteed. So they're done. We got Pittsburgh tomorrow night, you know, against, you know, these guys. And then AFC South, you're going to get one. You're going to get one, which is probably Jacksonville right now.

[00:56:24] Jacksonville. Maybe in the end, but Indy's not going to have a vibe. Like, they're not going to have the starting quarterback they need, so they won't get any wins. Houston. They just lost Carolina. Maybe Levis is the answer. We'll find out tomorrow night. We'll find out tomorrow night. A lot of his throws were off his back foot and he was using arm. Well, this is the thing. People are excited about it because I watched those touchdown throws. A lot of it was

[00:56:53] like the last touchdown he threw off his back foot. Oh, 50-yard flick of the wrist. Yeah, it was off his back foot and it was no other defender over there. Well, this is the thing. Atlanta plays good defense, but you play good defense, but they don't get the quarterback. Yeah, that's what I was about to say. That's exactly what I was going to say. Atlanta plays good defense, but they don't get pressure. You know, he's got to deal with J.J. Watt. And oh, by the way, I blinked and saw that Cam Hayward's coming back tomorrow. So, you know, and the Steelers

[00:57:23] already lead the league in turnovers, you know, for the most or I think they're top two. But, you know, but the point being like tomorrow could be his rookie game. He's going to get his wake-up call. He's going to get his wake-up call. So, the AFC East could get three teams in theoretically because I think I think the Buffalo is going to, if they lose, they're going to have to call their way out. The Jets play such a simple game with Zach Wilson and they play solid defense. And I think they

[00:57:53] believe. But you know what the funny thing is? So, the Ravens are six and two. Everybody else in that division is four and three. And, oh, shit. Texas is about to explode. Yeah. You got a two-run homer. You know it's bad. That's your MVP, right? Got to be. You know, but yeah.

[00:58:23] You know, so all the teams are four and three. So, that's the problem is that Pittsburgh can beat anybody, but they can lose to anybody too because they get the turnovers, but otherwise, they're near the bottom of the league in defense. If you came to a game under some new NFL rules and it started in third quarter and the other team playing against Pittsburgh had 20 points and you gave Pittsburgh the ball for the rest of the half.

[00:58:53] They might not score. They might not score 21. And do we know if Kenny Pickett's playing tomorrow? Do we know if Kenny Pickett's playing tomorrow? After the hit, which should have been a personal foul, it should have been a roughing passer because he did throw the body weight on him. We don't know if he, did he not even throw it? Clippers are roughing up the Lakers again. Yeah, so. 39 to 28 with 10 14 left in the second quarter.

[00:59:22] 39 to 28. They'll blow it. But yeah. Yeah. I dig it. I like, I like, I like what I'm seeing. I'm not, once again, I'm still not a big fan of the MVP shatter. The quarterback award. The quarterback award. Cause like guys like AJ Brown, Tyreek Hill, Tyreek Hill are like ninth. Chris McCaffrey's like ninth,

[00:59:52] 10th in the odds. I think Brock Purdy still might be ahead of them. Trevor Lawrence is ahead of a couple of these guys. Trevor Lawrence didn't have 10 touchdowns. I think Lamar's ahead of a couple of these guys. They're really, they're really going to have to evaluate like my God golf. Huh? I think Jerry golf might, but I get it. Cause he's having, he's having a year where you would want to consider him for

[01:00:20] MVP because the, the ward is most valuable player. And I like the, the player with the best stats. I know you need splashes for it, right? His value to the Detroit lions. He allows Dan Campbell to be gritty with everything else because Jerry's so smooth. Like Kenny Pickett fits the type of personality that Dan Campbell

[01:00:50] has for his team tough, you know, just in there, just grinding away slinger. Yeah. One slinger grinder, everything else, but it doesn't leave the points. Jerry golf gives you the ability to be a power run team, hit the tight end, but he also has an element of hitting Amara State Brown on the crossing route from one hash to the other accurately. He has that. I can hit the

[01:01:19] Titan in the scene versus like just checking it down to the flat. Like, you know, some did you see they made a trade too? They got what they went, got a people's Jones from people's Jones. Yeah. Cause cause a young boy Jameson he's not, he's not consistent right now. He's not consistent. He's young, but you know, you make the move, but that's what Dan Campbell. That's what Jerry golf allows you to do is like, Hey,

[01:01:51] we could bolster the defense, but what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna give you another weapon that way we can fly around defensively. Uh, so that's, that's, that's the difference. See, Kenny pick it. Mike Tomlin needs a let me think of the available quarterbacks. I will say Jimmy Garoppolo, but it seems like Jimmy just doesn't really don't really function. Jimmy throws some balls into danger, man.

[01:02:20] Like for no reason. Uh, even if, even if Mike Tomlin has Zach Wilson, nah, I think he'd be in the same position. I think like what I'm trying to play. Oh, if he had Lamar, like, you know, trying to stay right, right, right. What if he had Josh Dobbs? If he had Tyler Heineke. Okay. Taylor Heineke. Taylor Heineke in Pittsburgh would allow Pittsburgh defense to fly around because they know like you mean starting quarterback

[01:02:50] Taylor Heineke. Absolutely. Which in, I'm not a big fan of doing it simply because Atlanta's not going to lose enough games to be in a position to get a new one of these top flight top three not even three because I think there's two top quarterbacks in the draft next year. as far as what we see right now Caleb Williams Drake made those are projected to anybody that's third

[01:03:20] I don't think they're first round of top 10 and top 15 versus all the other needs you can fill with college football. I think if you're in a position where you need a quarterback and get Drake made Caleb Williams you do it. Chicago is going to be in that position. Now if Atlanta is willing to be aggressive and say hey Chicago give me Justin Fields we'll give you our second round pick which would be probably a

[01:03:50] mid second round pick. So we'll keep our because Atlanta is probably going to finish the season be realistic 8-9 7-10 somewhere like last couple years they've been 7-10 the last two years but not the second round pick and Drake London right? No last week they said that Chicago wouldn't budge on the deal unless Carolina gave up DJ Moore so that's different than them saying hey we're also throwing

[01:04:19] DJ Moore and they're like nah but it was like hey they wouldn't give up they wouldn't give up the number one pick without DJ Moore so if you can if Atlanta can make that kind of move I'm with it but if you're because you can't keep Heineke because I don't know if he's a long term answer I mean you still need a backup but you can't keep I don't know if you've had Ritter long enough to really get rid of him so that's the thing so

[01:04:49] if you're in that meeting and you're the same GM that drafted him you're the same coach staff that groomed them it's like you're not going to give up on him because you know him personally drafted him you brought him here you brought his family there so you're not going to give up on him so going to Heineke just to be mediocre is like well you better off just leave Ritter in there that's that's the thing is like you're damned if you're damned if you don't I would have left Ritter in there

[01:05:19] and then made like tangible philosophy adjustments to how I play like listen throw the ball down here I don't give a damn what happens I need you to throw that scene route I need you to throw it the pits when he's open just do it it still looks the same that's in the season

[01:05:42] so that's where like for me it's like why now though I admit you know the offense did look quicker it did look something when Heineke was in there the other day it did look different you know what I mean but I don't know how much of that was Heineke or if it was just Tennessee wasn't playing

[01:06:11] on him playing and they were just out and Ritter that you know that and I mean I can't really tell like if they were calling like the same type of plays that they called when Ritters in there I was trying to figure that out too because Ritter got benched but he went 8 for 12 for 79 yards in the first half but it looked like when Heineke was in there it looked like for real like this is probably how they want the offense to look that was my takeaway was like look at look at look how quick the ball is coming out look

[01:06:41] at you know what I mean it just looked like it flowed yeah that's and that's and if I had if I was in a position to ask Arthur Smith like what was the real difference in him to give me a real answer you'd be like yo I pulled him because this is the third week in a row where I called X over Y slant Z post and he threw the check down before he even looked to see if the post was open and it was like

[01:07:11] this is the third week in a row I've called that play and it's been open and he threw the check down anyway and it's like what are you seeing because I've seen this three weeks in a row I'm thinking maybe it had to be something like that because the offense isn't moving is what it is but especially against a bad pass defense like Tennessee's you know who's in the bottom 10 of the league you know like let that thing go yeah like the same thing I said about the Washington game like when I talked about it before the Washington game sometimes I feel like I should

[01:07:40] be coaching myself Chicago came out first drive it might have been the first maybe second play and they got what looked like either a one-on-one matchup or a single high safety matchup and it was like we're about to get DJ Moore one-on-one on the outside you're looking at baseball don't react we're about look at that basketball one-on-one on the outside oh we're throwing this yeah hey

[01:08:10] check it we're throwing this to DJ well you know like and we have a world series champion ladies and gentlemen there you go the Texas Rangers for the first time in franchise history got them looking got them look you ended the world series looking it was and it was close the ball and the little box was red so all right so now that we're here I can ask you my pop quiz question there was a there was

[01:08:40] a thing that they put up on the screen because I know I can multitask I don't know if you were checking it out but okay now that the Rangers have won the world series who are the other five teams that have not won the world series ooh think about this for minutes I don't know we'll get to the next topic I'll set it up but go ahead um

[01:09:14] the oh no because the Expos are now the Nationals Tampa Bay Rays correct Padres correct two for two for two Mariners correct oh man I really feel we just got one Cincinnati's got one Cleveland Guardians no they have one

[01:09:45] exactly one gotta be somebody in the Midwest Mets got one White Sox Cubs got one at least Boston's got one Orioles got one I'm out I'll take those three that's all I got the Rockies

[01:10:15] and the Brewers that was that's why I said Midwest I was like Midwest yeah so those are the five teams that haven't won the World Series you know like I wish I wish we could play which one is going to win one first but been out here on their New England Patriot tip but they took it to the next level because

[01:10:45] like with the Patriots we were told that they were watching the walkthrough you know and I know there was another team I want to say it was the Chargers or the Vikings that got in trouble for doing it too but it wasn't as publicized because they weren't the Patriots the Patriots were filming the walkthrough right right and rumor has it that the the St. Louis Rams felt as if in that Super Bowl that someone granted this comes

[01:11:15] out after the fact that their walkthrough was either filmed or watched because the Patriots did things in that Super Bowl that you wouldn't they made adjustments in on the fly that you were just like how do you know to do that and I remember like I was like under Joshua Daniels because it kind of ties back into it I was watching

[01:11:45] the pivot I forgot who the linebacker was but he was a linebacker in Denver I forgot it might have been Woodyard I could be wrong but he was on a pivot and he was talking about how in practice Josh McDaniels the coach's staff were telling him like listen when you see this formation just drop back 15 yards and turn around the ball will be somewhere here like this is where the route's going and he was like oh man this guy's

[01:12:15] a good coach man I thought we were doing good like oh man this guy's making adjustments he know what is going on yada yada yada yada he's like come to find out man so when he went 6-0 and then he got caught and then he had to stop doing it he was like so they were 6-0 because he was like man how do they know that if you drop back here if you just run back to this spot 20 yards and turn around you'll get interception he's like oh man these coaches are great coaches that it's a patriot way come to find out they were cheating

[01:12:45] so the rumor is or the feeling post super bowl was that that's that was that event that super bowl was one of the events that were was compromised because it was the greatest show on turf but he but to argue the counterpoint that if I'm a Bill Belichick guy is like well he did the same thing to the Rams a few years ago when he held them to three points and they were the

[01:13:15] new so he definitely didn't pull the same card twice and cheat the same exact way and that's my problem with this situation because even if Jim Harbaugh was the mastermind behind this there's no way it would have gotten done like it has been done like this dude was out here allegedly Connor stallions he was out here buying tickets to all these games in his own name

[01:13:46] and like his family members names and all this kind of stuff like that like I doubt Jim Harbaugh would be like yo make yourself traceable or like like like like buy these tickets and just we're just

[01:14:17] not not bright people this is the thing you and I grew up in the era and people our age we grew up in

[01:15:17] like like don't need to know like you went trick or tree last night I don't need to block you to know that but why are you sharing that information with me so right I think people are so used to just everything being readily available and his cameras everywhere so this guy going in it might have been a situation where he just wanted to put himself in position where he could create an edge for himself in the hiring process and the hierarchy of

[01:15:47] assistant coaches the hierarchy of like people who get to stay around because the college coach we talked about early he is king if you can impress dabble Sweeney you there hell they got pullback coaches the coaches that pull you back off the sideline that dude the head coach has to trust you enough that he allows you to touch him unexpectedly and like people it was a dude he was he I seen him tucking his khakis up he was ready to

[01:16:18] pull Nick Saban back to the sideline so to get to that level and you're in there you're in the coach's fraternity you gave more information you I don't know if Mangini and Bill Belichick are having dinner anytime soon but I bet you Josh McGann Joe Judge uh Matt Romeo Cornell Bill O'Brien they all went right back to New England and got jobs after they were completely unsuccessful he would not have hired those guys based

[01:16:48] off their performances as head coaches they wouldn't have been able to walk into his office if he weren't Bill Belichick disciples on their way out to get a job and then to come back like based off their performance but he they have a bit of cachet it might be a situation with that but Harbaugh is an old school guy you gotta be smarter than that like listen though you don't need tickets you yeah so

[01:17:18] you know but there's allegedly you know a video of him on the central Michigan sideline when they were playing against Michigan State in the opening game this season so not even like he was in saying how

[01:17:48] the rest of the coaches had their badge somewhere else up here and his was down on his pants pocket or something it was odd little things like that is he a part of this even if nobody knew who he was everybody else is hope and pray to God that guy really

[01:18:18] wasn't on his sideline and he didn't know about it some of this AI photoshopping stuff yeah exactly that's why I said allegedly it's chaos but but yeah then he had tickets to Ohio State and Penn State like one seat on each side of the stadium or from what I was reading he

[01:18:48] makes about $55,000 a year so he ain't buying those type of tickets on his own unless he's a rich kid that got some kind of trust or something like that we don't know about so that's where you would think the university could be involved but at this point I have no reason to think that Jim Harbaugh is involved I know TCU's coach Sonny Dykes came out

[01:19:17] and said that when they played Michigan in the playoff game last year they had dummy signals because it was kind coaches used to come to our games and we had a couple of like I won't say over

[01:19:47] zealous parents excuse me a couple of team above my son's level so it's like

[01:20:17] you still gotta stop it yeah I know that you're gonna run because like I you don't get reweight so yeah he could be a running back and you think he's

[01:20:46] 135 because that's the range but now he's probably like blowing back up to 155 so I can tell you hey they're gonna run this sweep to the right your defensive your outside linebackers the cornerbacks and safety still have to be willing to come downhill and make a tackle on this guy even if you know the play is coming yeah and they still gotta have the discipline to stay in

[01:21:31] people like seven passes last week and they won by 17 points my son's 14 he plays in a basketball league and the coach is calling out a play I'm sitting on the bench and he called out to play I think it was called Carolina and I heard my son telling his teammates hey they're running this they're gonna scream me they're gonna scream me here you gotta get here because even in the course of the game they didn't study film on this other

[01:22:01] basketball team he just recognized that the play call this happens you gotta get here and he's 14 he doesn't have advanced film studies you know what you're doing so I don't know why Jim Harbaugh with all the five stars coming off a college football playoff appearance two years in a row would need to steal signs to beat Iowa or Wisconsin like you know what Wisconsin is gonna do they gonna

[01:22:30] run by fine there is 1500 1800 pounds of offensive linemen they're gonna throw it to the tight end and then they might take a NFL does and I think that reason is because everybody does what Jim Harbaugh is being accused of I think that they you know

[01:23:00] this Connor Stallions guy whether he did it on his own or he was empowered they took it to another level you know but I'm sure everybody tries to get any advantage and intel that they can on their opponent you know Matt Rule said it he was like he's like high school to have microphones in the helmets we got these big dumb signs on the sideline like he's like everyone does it everyone steals signs like yeah you have to like you without that communication you know you

[01:23:30] have to you know I know this means all linebackers go and I see they're going to butch the linebackers yeah and you know so like when I look at this what I wanted to ask you

[01:24:12] and get some kind of punishment from the NCAA and then leave for the NFL the NFL I guess would be allowed to punish him as well what do you think about that I think it's stupid I think it's dumb I think it's like if I'm late for work and my last job and I quit and you hire me with you

[01:24:42] like you hired me it's all about they want they want to you are not an admirable organization all the time no organization is so stop acting as if you are you don't have to sell me on your morality you don't have to sell me on your integrity you don't have to when it comes to money I know anyone dealing with

[01:25:11] money you gotta make concessions to your integrity it is what it is you don't have to oversell me on it because you don't give a damn if Jim Harbaugh gets hired by the Las Vegas Raiders the NCAA doesn't give a damn if he gets punished when he's in the NFL you don't give a shit you don't care it has nothing to do with you it doesn't have a coach

[01:25:41] but him getting doc paid for two games and the NFL I think is hired by the Las Vegas Raiders does what does that show that you have integrity over your sport that just started paying players two years ago when players are boosters I mean

[01:26:11] like let's keep it real anybody sitting courtside at any game any event or sitting ringside courtside front row at a concert they didn't get that because they just looked good that's not how they got somebody paid for and if that's illegal whatever the case may be boosters should not know the players personally you know what the boosters are there for they're there to boost the

[01:26:41] economy of the team they should not have any direct contact with the players but yet it was perfectly fine they

[01:27:11] the can't took that team and he took the Samson 49ers that had Mike Singletary making quotes at the podium about not being able to win Can't win with him. Can't play with him. Can't play with him. Can't win with him. He took that same team to the Super Bowl, and he made Alex Smith literally damn near MVP candidate,

[01:27:37] and he had Colin Kaepernick probably pass an interference call away from being Super Bowl MVP. It went all Michael Vick up in Lambeau. I mean, literally, it's no one. I don't say no one cares, but don't act like you care. We don't care. We don't care. We don't. So, you know, now we get to the association, and right now we got 61-48 Clippers at halftime over the Lakers.

[01:28:06] Kawhi Leonard with 22 first-half points. Russell Westbrook with 13 points, 11 of those coming in the second quarter. For the Lakers, Anthony Davis, 8 points, 3 rebounds, 3 of 6 shooting. 3 rebounds, 24 minutes. And 20 minutes. And then LeBron James, 17 points, 3 boards, and an assist on 6 of 9 shooting. So, how many points? 17. So, Anthony Davis played 20 minutes? Yes. And he's got 3 rebounds? 8 points and 3 rebounds. Yes.

[01:28:38] Listen. Can't win with him. Can't play with him. I'm not. Listen. I'm not anti-Anthony Davis. But I did not think you could rely on him. I won't say rely. There was.

[01:28:58] I didn't see any evidence to say he was going to rise above the 2020 championship player that he was. I think that was like, that was the best he probably was going to be. I mean, he's had a lot of injuries, you know. Like, you have to think that. Not even injuries. Like, when he's healthy.

[01:29:26] Like, when he's out there healthy, Anthony Davis doesn't do anything offensively or defensively that makes you game plan for him. But when he's healthy, is he healthy? I don't know. Like, for instance, if Luka has the ball in his hand and he dribbles from one side of the wing or one side of the elbow to the other side,

[01:29:53] you got a plan for whoever's guarding him to go from right to left, left to right. If Giannis is coming to the paint, you have a whole defensive strategy for him. I think LeBron now, he might have a little bit. They might have to send less help because he doesn't exert himself all the way to the cup like he used to. Because, I mean, let's keep it a bean. He was almost 40.

[01:30:21] But, like, that Miami Heat, LeBron, like, you tried to do stuff. You just couldn't do anything with it. Steph, you run guys at him or you get your most athletic guy that can just run with him. Or you switch everything. So, like, he's essentially running against fresh guys as he's moving around. Anthony Davis, you can play him straight up with other guys guarding him. You don't send any help. You don't have to do anything. You just play him straight up. And that's the thing.

[01:30:49] People were treating him like he was one of these ultra impactful guys. And he wasn't. He just was a really good guy. He was. He is. Miles Turner with opportunity. I haven't heard that one before. Okay. I like it. I like it. Because people want to throw him into the same realm of Embiid. Embiid, you have to game plan for Embiid.

[01:31:17] Because Embiid is going to show up. And he's going to make sure you adjust to how great he is playing that day. See, you did it again. I was just about to say. How the hell did Philly get that trade without Terrence Mann being included? And why did it? Why did we wait till now to make this trade? Because sometimes, man, the divorce is bitter. It's bitter. And you may say, you know what? I want.

[01:31:46] I want the summer house here. And I want the lake house. You can get the beach house. And you're like, you know what? Just fine. Leave. Just give me. Give me the lake house. You get whatever you want. Just take that and go. And I think they were going to get to that point with James Harden. Because it was like, there's no reason for him. There's no reason for him to come back to Philly. He already said he wasn't going to do it. No one else was going to give you anything.

[01:32:12] And the Clippers probably have the most eccentric, expectation-based money owner. I think he might be the richest owner in the NBA. Maybe someone has more. But I think his net worth was somewhere in the $40, $50 billion when he bought the team. So, he's probably in the position to risk more. Even though it's not that much in the grand scheme of it.

[01:32:42] For a billionaire to risk $35 million on a player, it's probably not that much. Considering that the licensing deal that he's going to get for his new stadium is going to be fucking 10 times that per year for the next X amount of years. Whatever the case may be. You know how the math works out. One thing we know about James Harden, though. He is a loyal dude, bro. He is loyal. Wherever he go. To himself.

[01:33:12] He's going to make sure. No, wherever he go. He's going to try his damage to get P.J. Tucker with him. He's going to try. Yeah, I mean. Philly definitely. It might be one of those things you win for losing. You lose. James Harden. Who is. When he's on, he's on. Can you get.

[01:33:42] Houston James Harden now. I don't know how many years have passed. Can you get. You know that the Brooklyn James Harden when they had Brooke. When they had KD, Kyrie and him. If you can get 23 and 11. Or. We'll just be. That's the crazy thing. You don't even need that. Because Paul George is playing lights out right now. You know. Like Kawhi just put up 22 in the first half. So like. Do you bring Russ off the bench? Do you bring James off the bench? Do you bring Harden off the bench? That's what I was going to say. Do you. Like.

[01:34:13] Because Paul George and Russell Westbrook seem to have something. Does Kawhi have. You know. A thigh bruise. He needs a couple of games off. You know. Do you. You use. Is James Harden your leverage piece against the new. Low management rules. Does he give you that. You know. Additional ace and a hole. Because. You know. It's just. These guys are older. That's the only thing. Basketball is a young man's game.

[01:34:46] Except. There's a few exceptions to the rule. And the way the NBA is. Just allow that to just be. The standard. The Warriors getting whatever they want. The Lakers are making all these trades every single year. Wherever LeBron goes. They make a bunch of trades. Especially the last few years. James Harden getting whatever he wants. Kyrie's going wherever he kind of wants. KD's getting what he wants. So the league is kind of like.

[01:35:14] Like hitch their wagon to like six or seven guys. And it's like. You guys. We'll go six to eight. Maybe nine guys. We're going to put you guys on opening night. We're going to put you on Christmas. You're going to be on the billboards. We're going to put you in the commercials that we play during the game. We need you to carry us. Problem is. Three or four of these guys want to be on the same team all the time. So now I can't. Like I can't pull Orlando Detroit. Primetime Christmas.

[01:35:45] What do you think about what Philly got back? Honestly. I didn't really look at it. Because I didn't hear a single name that was like worth having back. Yeah. That's how I feel. They got Marcus Morris. Robert Covington. Nick Batum. They got Little Kenyon Martin. Our age. They got Little Kenyon Martin. And then they got a 2028 unprotected first round pick. Two second round picks. 2028.

[01:36:15] Yeah. A 2029 swap. We'll be 46 when that draft happens. And a first round pick by way of OKC. 46. We'll be 46 when that draft happens. We'll be 46 year old man when that draft happens. That's nuts. Our children will be double digits. All of our children will be double digits in age by the time that draft happens. Think about that. That's nuts. That's nuts. Our kids are toddlers. I'll have two of them in college. But it felt like my grandkid would be seven.

[01:36:45] Like I mean like let's be real. Like that doesn't make any sense. Like that deal is just basically take the beach house and leave me alone. That's all it is. But it's there's no I don't I imagine that Morris. It's probably gonna work a buyout. Yeah. I think Covington will be where he fits. I think he'll be a good piece. Coming back to Philly. Yeah.

[01:37:16] Does he want to come back? Did they shaft him on the way out? Does he does he take a buyout and go down to Miami and play for two and a half million? Nick Batum is the ghost of Nick Batum. And will be number man number 11 on the bench. He gets no rhyme. And he got a little Kenyon. So maybe he gives them a little bit of athleticism because that's one of the things. Maybe he gives you something. Yeah. That was one of the things that I feel like Philly is missing.

[01:37:42] You know when you're going up against Boston, Milwaukee, Cleveland, you know with Donovan Mitchell and Mobley now. You know and Garland. You know you go up against the Knicks. You know like you got RJ Barrett. You know so I feel like. You know what I mean? You got guys in New York that can play good basketball. The point that I was trying to make which Julius Randle does not fit was that they have athleticism. You know like Philly is real stiff.

[01:38:12] Like like Maxie is fast. But Tobias Harris is not dynamic. Philly is like the Eastern Conference Lakers. Yeah. Yeah. That actually makes sense. You have. You have. What. What resembles talented players. And if you look at talent. To wins. Like oh. This makes sense because Tobias Harris can do this. This makes sense because Maxie can do this.

[01:38:41] This makes sense because Embiid is this much better than XYZ. It's the same thing you get when you talk about LA. AD can do this. Austin Reeves is up and coming. He can do this. LeBron is this much better. But then when you try to put it all together. All together. They're constantly putting just pieces together. And hoping it works. Just because. Yeah. Just because you have this. So instead of looking at the players. They're looking at characteristics.

[01:39:11] And. But not putting the age factor into it. Age. How quickly can you move? Are. Can we run. San Antonio last night versus Phoenix. I'm. I'm willing to guess. Guess. If we did the math. If we pulled it out right now. The average age of San Antonio's team is. I'm going to say 24 and a half. All right. I'll look that up. You'll look that up.

[01:39:41] So I'm going to say about 24 and a half. 24. 24 to 25. And oh by the way. The Suns and the Spurs play tomorrow too. So. So. What they're able to do is. They can put one B on the bench. And then just kind of run. Try and think of the word I want to use. 23.52 years old. That's what I said. I was going to go with 23 and a half at first. I said 23 and a half.

[01:40:10] I said 24 and a half. 24 and a half. So what you have. What you're allowed to do is just run your defensive sets with energy. And then you can run your offense. A lot of ball movement. Because. Every one of your players. They're very young. They can move. Wimby. Wimby was just cutting through the lane. And you got to respect it. But he's so young. He's moving so quick. And then you got guys like Johnson.

[01:40:39] I was the guy that just got the. I want to mess his name up. Let's go. Vassell. I haven't Vassell yet. He got. He just got the extension. So it was. You know what I heard the other day. Somebody said that he is on a Devin Booker like trajectory. I can respect that. But the problem is you got to put them on TV. You got to keep them together. You got to allow it to work.

[01:41:09] So the trap on Kevin Durant. You. I would have thought they would have had Wimby out there when he caught the pass. Wimby was in the middle of the floor. They had a couple other guys. Trap him. Keenan Johnson pulled out of his hand. But Wimby was right there. But Wimby was there for the putback. So. The Lakers are probably averaging about 28 and a half. 29. 29.9. And just for comparison.

[01:41:40] Golden State is 27.8. And then you got Philly. What's Philly? Philly is. 27.1. Just like the Lakers. Lakers are 29. But that's. That's skewed. Because you have LeBron. So that. That kind of bumps it up a little bit. And then you got AD. Who's. You know. 30. Oh hold on. Time out. My bad. I was looking at the wrong season. My bad. My bad. Lakers are 28.1. Still old.

[01:42:09] The Warriors are 28.8. So. Okay. Here's. Pop quiz. Who's the oldest team in the league? The Golden State Warriors. The Clippers. Oh. That's. That was easy. 29.6. And this is pre-hardened. Or post-hardened. This is pre-hardened. So they're by far the oldest team in the league. You know. I'm trying to find. Hold on real quick. Keep going. Trying to find something.

[01:42:39] Let's see. And I. I want to bring up something that I heard Amon Shumper say. And this is why I feel like. The NBA. And. And. And fans. You got to be honest with yourself. He was doing. I might have brought this up last week. When he was talking about. Oh yeah. How high. Can you play right now? Yeah. Can you play right now? He was like. Well yeah. But. That's because I don't have to guard. Luca. And Dame. He says that.

[01:43:08] Because he's like. Jordan talked about. He only wore his shoes. One game. Because he played so hard. He would like play through his shoes. Yeah. And then. You saw in the last dance. Where he wore the Jordan ones. And his feet were bleeding. And it's a different level of athleticism. I remember my father was telling me. He went to a Georgetown game. Back in the early. Probably the early 90s. When my dad was. We were stationed in Northern Virginia. Him and his friend. They snuck down. Close to the Georgetown bench. He was like.

[01:43:39] It's a waste of money. To sit courtside. He was like. Man. These dudes are moving so fast. I couldn't tell what was going on. He was like. I look one way. He was like. It was like a tennis match. He was like. The guys are moving so fast. And that was a college game. So at the NBA level. It was like. You need. I need. 22 to 25 year old guys. That can play every night. I don't know what I'm going to do with. James Harden. Russ. Kawhi. Paul George. I don't know what I can do with.

[01:44:09] LeBron and AD. Even though they are ultra talented. Historically in the sport. I'm not saying they're past their prime. But just. In a sheer numbers game. The Spurs are going to be able to outrun. You off of every rebound. If they decide. Coach Carter. OKC. I taught you to run. OKC. Rebound and run. Beat. We can get. If we can get. Because. What's the game? If you get a game. 30. If you get 30 fast break points in the game.

[01:44:38] That is outrageous. But you can get that. When you are. 23 year old. San Antonio. Playing against. 29.9. 30 year old. Essentially. When you. Yeah. We had. James Harden to start line up. Over the case. To how that works out. I mean. You don't have to be. Great defensive scheme. But they shoot a lot of threes. Right. Turn along. Turn along rebounds. So. If. Check Holmgren. Sees a three go up. And he's defending. Russ.

[01:45:08] And it's probably going to be off. Because he's seven foot two. It's going to be off. He comes down. He defends it. His feet touch the floor. He just runs up the floor. Giddy gets the rebound. Turns. Holmgren's at the rim. Throw it up there. Get a quick. And don't. And don't let Holmgren develop that Kevin Love outlet either. Giddy. And Giddy's a willing passer. And he's six eight. So he's got. He's got all that energy. You know. You know. He's my favorite virgin. You know. You got.

[01:45:38] How many people let this information out. But. I know. Like. Well. I think it was Chris Leak. Where. When he was at Florida. He said he wasn't going to. Lose his virginity. Until they won the national title. And then. Telling people. Well. They said. He's just. Show him like little. Naked pictures. And he would go running high. In the locker room. Crazy stuff like that. But. Yeah. So you know. That's a young man's game. Ask Tom Pidor. In his latest standup. When he talked about. He tore his patella. And broke his arm. At the same time. And the doctor asked him.

[01:46:08] What happened. Car accident. He goes. Dunk contest. Because. Well. At a certain age man. Is like. You're superior athlete. But you're also going against. Other. I know. That's going to be me. Trying to do this. That's going to be me. Trying to do this. Tough Mudder next week. Take your time. You know what I'm saying. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. They signed us up. For the 15k. Better get a bike. It's going to be rough. It's going to be rough. You know what I'm saying. So that Tuesday after. It's on Saturday. That Tuesday after.

[01:46:38] I still might be recovering. Yeah. You got. You got. Great eyelashes. Yeah. The trade. The trade was. The trade. The trade was. Inevitable. I guess. I think both sides. Ruin a trade value. By just not. Get in the room. I say. Listen. I'm not going to say shit publicly. You don't say anything publicly. Because. James Harden could have been in Milwaukee.

[01:47:08] Oh you know. I see people putting money on the Clippers. Now to win the title. That's because people don't understand. How you know. Clocks work. And how. There's no reason to believe. That a Clipper is going to win a championship. There's no evidence of support. Correct. Not one. Correct. You know. I mean I guess like. Whenever. Unless your argument is. They got James. Yeah. They got a bunch. They don't have 2014. Paul George. Whenever Kawhi takes his. Whenever Kawhi takes his sabbatical. You know.

[01:47:37] They got an extra fill in now. But. Even with that. It's like. I don't. I think you can win. If they play. 20 games. Between now. And the end of this. Calendar year. Between now. On Christmas. Yeah. You probably can go. 13 and 7. 14 and 6. But. Are you going to be able. To sustain that. Through. March. To lock yourself. In position. Of where.

[01:48:08] You're. In position. To be a number one seed. Avoid the play in. Avoid the play in. Or. Either. Being a number one. Number two seed. Because. Denver seemed to be very complete. They have. Like their. Their core players. Work together. Together. Dame Lillard. And. Giannis. That seems like it could work. But it's still new. It's early right now. But Denver's second. Denver's second in points. Giving up. You know.

[01:48:38] Defensive points. Giving up per game. So. You know. Denver got a defense. If. You know. Can they hold that up? Can they maintain that? Especially if you. If you're. Your best defender. Is going to have to guard. Jamal Murray. Your. Biggest. Your biggest defender. Is going to have to guard. Jokic. So hopefully. Your biggest defender. Is good. If not. Jokic. Is going to just. Oh that was.

[01:49:07] Well see. Well see. That's why I thought. That Denver got lucky. Last year. In the fact that. Not lucky. But you know what I mean. They. That they avoided the Warriors. Yeah. That they avoided the Warriors. Because I think the Warriors. Could have still. Gave them a matchup problem. Like. I don't think so. No. I think. No. I think you would have put Draymond on him. On Jokic. Yeah. Yeah. But I think. I think. Remember. At one point. Remember. At one point.

[01:49:36] Hachimura was the Jokic stopper. Didn't he average. Like. Almost a triple double. In that series. No one's a stopper. Of great players. It's a matter of like. The role players. Can you. Who's going to hit the threes. Is what it comes down to. Like. Like. Like. In the NBA finals. It came down to. Struis. And Vincent. Weren't hitting their shots.

[01:50:06] You know. Like. I do that. Because. I think Struis. Game one. He went like. Oh for nine. Or something like that. So. Oh for nine. Oh for ten. Or something like that. But it came like. Game two. Which. I think that game two. Is a game that they won. I think it was just. It was a. My. Physicality. They were just too big. They were just too big. They were too big. Gary Paydream was in the paint. And didn't even look at the rim. They didn't. They didn't have. What's the word I'm looking for. They were big and skilled.

[01:50:36] You know. Like. Looney's big. But he's like. An ogre. You know what I mean. Like. There's highlights from him from high school. He was. He was a beast. But most of you guys were beasts in high school. But Jokic and Aaron Gordon. Like. Aaron Gordon's that like. Prototypical guy. That you want in today's league. He was your guy. That was like. Yo. This is my role. Watch how me. Watch how I. Dominate this position. Watch how.

[01:51:05] I defend hard. And they know he loves to dunk. Like. I can guard. I can guard LeBron. LeBron. And I can switch over to AD. And our defense doesn't suffer. Yeah. And I can beat LeBron. On a fast break. And I can beat AD. So I can beat. The other team's best players. Off the rebound. On a break. And defend them. In the half court. Right. And my team respects me. And they'll give me the rock.

[01:51:34] Right. Like they'll give me the ball. They'll look for me on a fast break. Like. So that's. That's the piece. Is like. Like JaVale McGee. Threw up this aggressive ass hook shot. I can't believe he's still in the league. I like him though. I didn't think he still would be in the league. Stacked in the fool. Yeah. I guess his mom had to call him. But yeah. So. The NBA. It was good. It was good to have a trade. We talked about the NFL. NFL. Just seemed like. Washington.

[01:52:04] Dumped their players off. And. We probably. I think that Devontae Adams trade. Probably would have been. Probably the most impactful trade. I think the only team. That would have really made. A real offer. At this point in the season. That really needed them. Would be Kansas City. And. They weren't going to do that. They weren't. They weren't going to do that in division. Yeah. I couldn't. I couldn't see them doing that. But I did notice. McCole Hartman. Didn't get 17. When he came back.

[01:52:33] To Kansas City. So I was thinking. Maybe. 17 is on a roster right now. In Kansas City. I was like. Maybe they were like. Holding out. Hoping that they could get Devontae Adams. And kept 17 available. But that's just. Well. Even with San Francisco. A non-research conspiracy theorist. Even with San Francisco. Like. What are the chances. That they bring Chase Young back next year. You know. They just paid. Hargrave. And. You know. I'm sure they paid Bosa. Not too long ago.

[01:53:03] I think. Bosa's still trying to get paid. Oh yeah. He held out. Oh yeah. Yeah. Because he was going to hold out. Yeah. Yeah. There was somebody else. Hold on. I had it in my notes. There was somebody else that they paid. Besides Hargrave. No. I think they did. I think they did pay Bosa. Like. He held out. But I think they paid him. Like. I think he held out. And he came in. Yeah. I think. But I think they paid him. When he came in. Like. Who do you think should have made a move? Like. NBA wise.

[01:53:33] Yeah. They gave him. They gave him five years. 170. With 122. Oh yeah. We talked about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like. Yeah. So he came back and got paid. So. They can't really have the money to. Pay Young too. No. Chicago's going to pay Chase Young next year. And put him back with sweat.

[01:54:02] Because. When I watched the game the other night. They kept talking about how much. Cap money. Chicago had. And that's another thing that hurt. James Harden in this deal is that. Most teams weren't. Most teams didn't have the assets. Or the cache available. To trade for you. Without hurting their team. Right. The Clippers. Doesn't hurt their team.

[01:54:31] To give up those. Those pieces that they gave up. And like. The picks or whatever. In the future. And. Who knows. What the state of college basketball. Or even amateur basketball. Is going to be in five years. I love these stats. Turn. Eight. Eight. No. Against LeBron James. Yeah. I saw that. Somebody posted it. Went on some kind of like. He's not even playing tonight. You know. He's not even playing tonight. There's still. Who's the home game? Is it home for the Lakers? Or home for the Clippers? What color is the floor?

[01:55:02] It's the Lakers. It's the Lakers. So they got the banners up. Yeah. I'm watching. I got the Golden State Warriors. I got the. Kings game on. I got the. Graeping urine on the floor. You know. You know. Yeah. So the play in starts Friday. You know. We talked about that briefly. And you know. I just want to say. You know. I am not for the play in. But I am here. For Denver. For Denver versus Dallas. Yeah. That's what I meant to say. Yeah. Denver versus Dallas.

[01:55:32] I am here for that Friday night. So you know. I'll be watching that. But not because it's the play in tournament. Just because it's Luka and Jokic. In season tournament. Listen. If we're going to be. World famous podcast. Dude. That's. Yeah. You. Yeah. You're not. You're not a big fan of it. And honestly. Like. My thing is. They're doing it. They're doing something. Baseball tried it with the clock. NFL tried it with.

[01:56:02] What did the NFL do? To kind of like. Bullshit things. Made it more. NFL just let the offensive. Yeah. They just let the offense. Do whatever they want. And then that's how you know. A defensive player is really. Really good. That's how you know. Sauce Gardner. As good as advertised. Considering. Like his rookie year. And what he didn't give up. And receptions and touchdowns. And things of that nature. Considering the. The way the game's molded. So. Like. My thing is like. The NBA.

[01:56:32] You're trying. The owners are trying to take the power back. Of the governors. Is that the word? The vernacular. Yeah. The governors. Yeah. We don't use that word no more. They're trying to take the power back. From the players. And I respect it. But. The only reason they're doing it. And they're. And it makes sense. Is because. Even the fan bases are like. Yeah. We're good with you not giving these old dudes. 45 million dollars a year. But.

[01:57:01] If you get a guy like De'Aaron Fox. Who else? Cha Morant. Zion Williamson. SGA. Holmgren. When these guys start becoming the marquee players. And you. You know. You get LeBron. Who's. I mean. Realistically. Best case scenario. He has to retire at the end of next season. Can't go longer than that. Right? I mean. Healthy. Like healthy through this year. Healthy through next year.

[01:57:31] But I mean. How many years you want to go 37 or 45? No. I wouldn't be opposed to leaving after this season. That's from. But I doubt it because. He. He's going to want his fell world tour. Yeah. He's going to want his Kobe. Like the way out. Dream on green toe Paul appears. Like you're not Kobe. They don't love you like that. So I imagine that he's going to make the announcement. So whatever. Bronny ends up next year. But. At some point. It's. You're going to get back to where.

[01:58:01] The players. Have a little bit more leverage. Right now. The guys that. Want leverage. Are just old. So it makes it look like the owners are really. Doing their thing. We're really. They're just making smart business decisions. Like I'm not giving you. Four years. 40 million dollars a year. When you're 37 years old. You know what did the Lakers. What did the Lakers get back when they gave up Zubac. Heartache. They gave him up for nothing.

[01:58:31] Whoever. Whoever they gave him up for. Because I feel like they. I feel like he kills the Lakers every time. Like they play. They play each other. Like. It was. I remember Skip Bayless. Talked about that a lot. Either Skip Bayless or Nick Ray. One of the people on Fox Sports 1. Talked about how they basically gave up Zubac for nothing. Because. I remember the deal. When a trade happened. And Zubac was in it. I don't know who the trade was for. But I remember thinking like.

[01:59:00] Why'd they give him up? Because he was young. Big body. Michael Beasley and Mike Muscala. And Michael Beasley's out here. Making Instagram basketball videos. Yeah. I think he might be in the big three. Mike Muscala's on the Wizards now. Mike Muscala. Wasn't he on the. He was on the Thunder for a minute. I thought he was on the Celtics. Last year.

[01:59:30] He might have been. He's on the Wizards now though. It's only like 12 American born white basketball players. Yeah. He was on Boston last year. But. Yeah. He left Oklahoma. Like he was with Oklahoma City. Then Boston. And now he's with the Wizards. So yeah. Like. Yeah. I don't. I don't think. I don't think the. James Harden trade. Changes the landscape. Of. The hierarchy. Of the Western Conference. Maybe it helps.

[01:59:59] Maybe it helps the Clippers win a series. You know. Maybe that's the difference. But they were going to win a series. Maybe. I just. I'm. Not. It's not. This is not an indictment on James Harden's talent. I just don't think that. He. Has the same level of impact. As an individual. That people think. Yeah.

[02:00:29] It's like. That name. And the James Harden you're thinking about. Is from 2018. That's the. That's the last. Like. Definitive. Best. Player. In the league. Conversation. And then. After that. He just kind of stopped. Why ain't D'Angelo Russell better? Because. You don't want to.

[02:00:59] You don't want to be better. Yeah. I think he wants to be D'Lo. He wants to be. And that's it. Because I saw a video. James. It was like. LeBron James. In the timeout. Or like. In the huddle. On the sideline. Was like. Hey. When I come here. And I scream. You know. I'm the pick and roll. I can pop here. It'll be open. He was like. I know what they gonna do.

[02:01:29] This is what I do. This is what I do. I know things. You know. Type of thing. They came out. And D'Angelo Russell. Came. The screen came. He called for the screen. And then D'Angelo Russell. Shot a three point off the dribble. But. It was explaining to him. Give me the ball here. You'll be open here. And he just. Shot it. There's like so many teams. That I look back at. You know. Then we'll wrap this up. But like.

[02:01:59] I'd be. I'd be sitting there. I'd be like. Yo. The Warriors. I mean. Not the Warriors. The Wolves. The T-Wolves. They had Wiggins. And Levine. And then. Got Cat. And it was just like. Y'all couldn't make that work. Like. Not even. Like. Y'all. They had Jimmy Butler and Cat. At the same time. Right? They did. They did. You know. Because that. Yeah. That was the whole thing. He. When he took the. Third shooters. And beat everybody. Yeah. And. He was going at Cat. Jeff King says that story. It's so funny. He's like.

[02:02:29] Jimmy Butler didn't shoot the ball. But like. The whole thing is like. Obviously. Not everybody can win a title. You know. Not everybody can be a contender. But it's like. With the three of them. How did that not at least like. Could you. They put fear in somebody. How could you not build around. Yeah. Why couldn't they have been. The new OKC. Like. Orlando is going to do the same thing. Market. What's today?

[02:02:59] Right now. I'm in. Okay. So we're still November 1st. Yeah. November 1st. For Orlando. Orlando is going to do it. Detroit's going to do it. OKC is going to do it. They're going to have. A young core. Of three. And they're going to have. An opportunity. To say. You know what. Let's build. Around this core. Let's pay. What we got to pay. For rookie extensions. Veteran exemptions.

[02:03:28] Whatever it is. We got to do. Let's keep the coach. Let's keep the core. And they're not going to do it. Orlando won't do it. Detroit won't do it. OKC won't do it. Houston won't do it. All these young teams. Are going to look. And think that. I can bring in a guy like Kyrie. Or I can bring in James Harden. I can bring in Kawhi. I can bring in Paul George. When he's done with his contract. And. And they're going to move.

[02:03:58] Their young talent. And they're going to bring in a guy. Not everybody could do. What LaMelo. And Brandon Miller doing. Huh. And I botch it. It just. 43.8% from three. It's the. It's the nature of the NBA. They. They do not. Like Harrison Barnes is still playing basketball. Yep. And still playing the exact same way too.

[02:04:28] Yeah. But. Golden State didn't break up their big three. They probably had a couple of years. Where they were down. And then Russ. And that Russ. Wardell broke his hand. And they were like. Well. Let's charge this year. Let's charge it. It is what it is. Let's get some development. Let's see what we got. But it's over though. It's over now. It's over now. No more titles for them. It's over.

[02:04:58] I mean. You're probably right. But. You're not like you're really out on the ledge. No. This is. This is my Max Kelly. This is my Max Kelly. Off the cliff. When. Steph's going to come back. And average 36 in the finals. And win another finals MVP. It would be chaos. If that's the case. I'm so sick of these teams. Kicking everything out to the three point line. There you go. So bonus. What are you getting there? I know it. But yeah. So. You know. But yeah. Like I. I don't know man. Like.

[02:05:29] You know. It's still real early in the season. So we'll see how the season develops. But. So far. So good. You know. I'm enjoying what I'm seeing so far. You know. Like. Like. I'm deliberately looking out. Like. Granted. Yes. I want to see the Warriors. I think they moved the needle. But. I'm not going to not watch basketball until the game is Warriors Lakers. Yeah. Like. I'll watch Warriors. OKC. Whenever that game is. Yeah. We travel on the island of relevancy around here. Yeah. You know. I want to see Houston.

[02:05:58] I want to see. Orlando and Detroit. So I can see the brothers play against each other. Hey. Detroit's been looking good so far. You know. I'm impressed. You know. The twins. Both of them. Like. You know. It's going to be a long season. You know. As they get it together. Because. You know. By my statistical tracking. Let me find my paper. By my statistical paper. Yo. Clay Thompson has no drip. What up?

[02:06:26] Asar is shooting 32.4% from the field. That's not good. And 14% from three. Amen coming in tonight. Was better at 42% and 20 from three. You know. Brandon Miller we talked about before we came on. You know. School Henderson. I mean School Henderson. That's what I meant to say. 5.6% from three. Yeah. 33% from the floor. 8.3 points. Four assists. You know. Remember this is the guy they gave up Dame for. You know. But.

[02:06:56] How about Wimby. 2.3 blocks. And Chet with 2.8 blocks a game. So. You know. Brandon Miller is the leading rookie scorer right now. 17.3 points per game. The only person that confidently shoots over Wimby is Kevin Durant. Nobody else will have that same level of confidence. And I will be watching it tomorrow night. You know. Flipping in between Steelers and Titans. With a little bit of Duke Wake Forest and TCU Texas Tech.

[02:07:25] Because I'm a sicko. Yo. The man's obsessed. You know what I'm saying. Watching it all. So. You know. But on that note y'all. You know what I'm saying. It's midnight for Mr. Logical. You know what I'm saying. I got to get up in like six hours. So. We going to bid you adieu. You know what I'm saying. But not without saying. Oh. Wrong one. Wrong one. Without saying that we love you. Hit y'all with that 2.5 daily. You know what I'm saying. We'll be back.

[02:07:55] Later this week. Peace. Neter. Nero. Fuck.