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[00:00:52] We gonna start things off with Get It Off My Chest. And Mr. Logical, you're up the bat.
[00:00:58] Here we go. So, shout out to Raece once again for the merch. Me, Mr. Logical 2-5. Don't bring feelings to a fact fight.
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[00:01:28] And once again, this part right here means a lot to me. Don't bring feelings to a fact fight. I'm talking to all you dudes that keep posting.
[00:01:37] Anytime Kansas City gets a missed call and they have a good play afterwards, stop posting that shit.
[00:01:43] Just stop. Unless you're gonna post it for all 16 games. Because it happens all the time.
[00:01:49] The Rams got a bogus holding call in their last drive against Seattle.
[00:01:54] Luckily, they were able to overcome it in overtime with the beautiful pass from Stafford to Robinson for the one-handed catch for the touchdown.
[00:02:05] The Houston Texans got a bogus call against the Jets.
[00:02:09] But they still had him in third and 19.
[00:02:13] And Garrett Wilson made the great catch in the end zone.
[00:02:17] Atlanta got a few calls.
[00:02:19] We talked about the San Francisco-Dallas playoff game where that couldn't spike the ball after the quarterback draw because the ref didn't set it.
[00:02:29] Well, I'm guessing that maybe they had a conversation because the ref ran into the Tampa Bay Atlanta game.
[00:02:36] He touched the ball.
[00:02:37] He got it away.
[00:02:38] They snapped it, spiked it.
[00:02:40] One second, game time, field goal.
[00:02:41] They went in overtime.
[00:02:43] Every team gets perks.
[00:02:47] Every team gets good calls or bad calls.
[00:02:51] It's all about did you execute?
[00:02:53] We could talk about the overtime play where the, you know, was it Juwan?
[00:03:00] Juwan Taylor.
[00:03:01] Juwan Taylor.
[00:03:02] He does that a lot.
[00:03:03] I'm not going to front like he doesn't do it a lot.
[00:03:05] He does.
[00:03:06] But with 27 seconds left or 33 seconds left, Todd Bowles caught a timeout when he got the ball down to the one.
[00:03:13] Don't do that.
[00:03:15] Run the clock down.
[00:03:17] You know what your plays are.
[00:03:18] It's four plays you run from the goal line.
[00:03:21] It's either handoff behind the big uglies, a play action bootleg.
[00:03:25] You're throwing it to one of the big uglies.
[00:03:27] Or it's a fade to the wide receiver on the other side and maybe a quarterback sneak.
[00:03:33] Those are your four options in varying degrees, varying angles.
[00:03:37] But those are your four options essentially from there.
[00:03:41] You call one of those.
[00:03:42] As the clock's running, you get up to the line.
[00:03:44] Don't burn the timeout because when you scored on the next play, there's only 27 seconds left.
[00:03:48] So now you're worried about if we go for two and we're up one, they should have gone for two, went up one, played defense.
[00:03:56] Because on that drive from Kansas City, Winfield got his hands on two bad Mahomes passes.
[00:04:04] If you're up one, that ends your game.
[00:04:07] And even with that, two incompletions, they had 12 seconds.
[00:04:10] They're on like the 38-yard line.
[00:04:12] They would need one hell of a pass to get it off.
[00:04:17] But I get it.
[00:04:18] Everybody wants to post their feelings on the internet all the time.
[00:04:21] They want to put the camera up and they want to cry.
[00:04:23] You know, they want to hold their dead birds and cry.
[00:04:27] Or they want to cry about the relationship that they're not in.
[00:04:30] They just want to hold the phone up and cry.
[00:04:32] And they want everybody else to cry for them.
[00:04:35] I'm sick of this shit.
[00:04:36] Stop fucking crying all the goddamn time.
[00:04:38] Root for a team that wins.
[00:04:41] And when they lose, you deal with it.
[00:04:43] Don't try to dim somebody else's light so your team can shine.
[00:04:47] You sound soft.
[00:04:48] It's obnoxious.
[00:04:49] Cut it out.
[00:04:50] The NFL is not rigged.
[00:04:52] They do not care enough about you to try to trick you.
[00:04:55] They're literally going to give you these products.
[00:04:57] You're going to buy the Bud Light.
[00:04:58] You're going to go on a vacation.
[00:05:00] You're going to buy your tickets from Priceline.
[00:05:02] You're going to buy the Hennessy and the commercials that they advertise.
[00:05:05] You're going to pay $700 to see the Cowboys win.
[00:05:08] Or lose.
[00:05:09] You're going to pay $50 for parking.
[00:05:12] You're going to do all the things.
[00:05:15] There's no need from the rig.
[00:05:16] You're going to put in your $20 parlay.
[00:05:18] Hope it hits for $990,000.
[00:05:21] Shut up.
[00:05:22] Cut it out.
[00:05:23] Stop posting these goddamn videos.
[00:05:26] It goes on even all the free things.
[00:05:29] You know?
[00:05:30] But it's crazy, right?
[00:05:32] Because speaking of which, real quick, James Franklin, for example.
[00:05:38] You know, Saturday.
[00:05:40] Ohio State.
[00:05:41] You haven't beat them since 2016.
[00:05:43] Got to be on your P's and Q's.
[00:05:45] Your fans are depending on you, right?
[00:05:47] So second quarter, you know, you're down.
[00:05:52] Going into halftime.
[00:05:53] You get the ball near midfield.
[00:05:56] They ran a play.
[00:05:57] It got up.
[00:05:58] They ran a few plays.
[00:05:59] It got up to fourth and one.
[00:06:01] Are you going to go for it or not?
[00:06:04] They wasted, I count it.
[00:06:06] They wasted 27 seconds.
[00:06:09] Then called the timeout.
[00:06:12] So now you're rushing down the field and end up throwing a pick in the end zone.
[00:06:16] You know?
[00:06:17] Like, you lost the game right there.
[00:06:19] Like, forget the second half.
[00:06:21] You lost the game right there.
[00:06:22] You know, you had a 10-0 lead anyway.
[00:06:24] But anyway, you know, like, oh, these coaches.
[00:06:28] You know, don't even get me started on Dabo.
[00:06:29] I'll talk about him later.
[00:06:31] But get it off my chest.
[00:06:33] So I just want to let America know.
[00:06:36] There might be times, even if you're not a fighter, you might have to whoop somebody ass.
[00:06:44] You know what I'm saying?
[00:06:45] Like, look, I'm not a fighter.
[00:06:47] I'm not going to sit up here in front like I be out in these streets or I be putting hands on people.
[00:06:52] You know what I'm saying?
[00:06:53] Those days are gone.
[00:06:54] And I wasn't even out there like that.
[00:06:56] But the point being is that when you talk behind these microphones, when you write reports, you have to be cognizant of what you say.
[00:07:06] So, for example, the running sports reports disordered joke is, you got Julius Randall on your team?
[00:07:14] But I ain't sitting up here talking about, yeah, what kind of son did his mama raise?
[00:07:20] You know what I'm saying?
[00:07:21] Or anything like that.
[00:07:22] We're talking about stuff that's actually happening on the court.
[00:07:25] You need to pass the ball.
[00:07:27] You're taking too many threes.
[00:07:28] If he get mad at that, he's just sensitive.
[00:07:32] You know what I'm saying?
[00:07:33] But if I say those things like I just said, he got all the reason in the world to want to put hands on me.
[00:07:38] So when this reporter talks, and I'm not going to say his name because I don't even want to legitimize him, but he comes out here talking about, oh, Joel O.B., his brother.
[00:07:48] And, oh, his son.
[00:07:50] First of all, first of all, anything familial, keep it out your mouth.
[00:07:57] You know, because you, first of all, Joel Embiid is fucking seven foot two or something.
[00:08:02] And he's like an ogre.
[00:08:05] He's like a damn oak wood, stick of more tree or something.
[00:08:09] So first of all, watch your mouth because if he puts hands on you, it's going to hurt.
[00:08:14] So you were lucky and fortunate to get away with a shove.
[00:08:18] Now Joel Embiid has since gotten a three-game suspension.
[00:08:22] I don't want to hear nothing about it.
[00:08:24] I don't want to hear how it was wrong.
[00:08:26] I don't want to hear how it's okay, how it was right.
[00:08:29] Joel Embiid did the right thing.
[00:08:32] When people try you that way and talk about your family, you got to stand up for yourself.
[00:08:37] Just like a couple of months ago, we talked about Prime and how he called out that reporter.
[00:08:42] Like, you know, I don't want you here.
[00:08:43] I ain't answering no questions from you.
[00:08:46] You don't get to throw rocks and hide your hands.
[00:08:49] But if you throw rocks, you're going to get these hands.
[00:08:55] That's it.
[00:08:58] That's what it boils down to.
[00:09:00] You just got to – I remember a great line from one of my favorite movies, 300.
[00:09:06] Leonidas would talk to the emissary.
[00:09:09] He was like, listen, every man in Sparta is accountable for his words, even though you're just, you know, emissary.
[00:09:17] Like, you say it, you might get kicked in the chest down his hole.
[00:09:23] And he said it anyway, and he got kicked in the chest down the hole.
[00:09:27] He was like, listen, I gave you the warning.
[00:09:29] I told you, every man in Sparta is accountable for his words.
[00:09:33] And I think now with this whole – this desire to go viral, I think even the reporters kind of get wrapped in that because that conversation with Trayvon Diggs on the play where, you know, the interaction he had, the reporter was awfully smug because all the cameras were around and it was a little bit of a barrier.
[00:09:58] I don't know if you want these NFL hands.
[00:10:01] And I get it.
[00:10:01] Everybody can't fight.
[00:10:03] It's not a skill that everybody has being able to move, bob, and weave.
[00:10:08] But these dudes lift weight and tackle 200-plus-pound people for a living who also lift weights.
[00:10:15] Well, even if he can't fight, he can grab.
[00:10:17] He can grab.
[00:10:18] And he's wearing shoulder pads.
[00:10:20] He's padded up.
[00:10:20] So if he gets you in your blazer, it's a wrap.
[00:10:26] Somebody can help you.
[00:10:27] But most people are like, listen, I'm trying to get this footage.
[00:10:29] It's not a cameraman in that little circle that was going to put his camera down to get Diggs off of you.
[00:10:35] He's going to be like this.
[00:10:38] Hoping that somebody else helped you when you're going to get this footage for TV7 News in Dallas or whoever the hell he's recording for.
[00:10:46] So you got to watch your mouth because, listen, people can – you can play down and charge.
[00:10:51] Like I used to tell my troops, like, listen, you're more likely to be like – like you're going to get in more trouble not using a TO, a tech dad on the flight line on the airplane,
[00:11:02] than you are getting in a fight at a bar after work.
[00:11:05] Because a fight at the bar, you're like, listen, I lost my cool.
[00:11:09] This person said this to me, like, all right, cool.
[00:11:13] We'll get you, you know, some time off, counseling, whatever we need to get you.
[00:11:18] You don't use tech data while working on an airplane.
[00:11:20] You can't rationalize it.
[00:11:22] So, like, you can justify punching somebody in the face and be like, I'm sorry.
[00:11:27] You know, when I first joined, I know we had a club that, you know, people used to go put on gloves.
[00:11:33] Like on a Thursday night, you know, you just literally go to the club and get your frustrations out.
[00:11:38] So, you know, I mean, they put a stop to it, you know, because somebody had to give somebody a black eye.
[00:11:43] But, you know, besides that.
[00:11:45] You were stationed somewhere in the middle of nowhere.
[00:11:47] I was down in Goldsboro, North Carolina.
[00:11:49] Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[00:11:51] You were stationed somewhere in the middle of nowhere, you know, obligation right there.
[00:11:55] All right.
[00:11:56] So, taking it over to the Shield.
[00:11:59] You know, we had some action these last couple of days.
[00:12:02] For example, New Orleans fired their coach.
[00:12:07] Throwing in the towel.
[00:12:09] We knew it was going to happen.
[00:12:10] He should have been fired after last season.
[00:12:12] Iberfluss should have been right along with him.
[00:12:15] Absolutely.
[00:12:16] Iberfluss, I agree with.
[00:12:17] Dennis Allen, because you were bringing the same gang back.
[00:12:21] It made more sense to just keep the same coach.
[00:12:24] In my opinion.
[00:12:25] Well, right now.
[00:12:26] In a division that wasn't that tough.
[00:12:28] So, remember, at the start of the season, you was talking all this shit to me.
[00:12:33] Because I said.
[00:12:34] You said New Orleans was going to be the worst team in the division.
[00:12:37] I was like, how?
[00:12:38] I said in the league.
[00:12:39] I said in the league.
[00:12:40] And then they went out here and lost to Carolina the other day.
[00:12:43] They got the same record as Carolina.
[00:12:44] I'm not saying at this point that they're going to finish worse than Carolina.
[00:12:48] But I'm just saying it's on the table.
[00:12:49] So, I ain't that crazy.
[00:12:50] Granted, Derek Carr missed a few games.
[00:12:52] But Carolina switched out quarterbacks too.
[00:12:54] But anyway, when I look at the Saints, I don't know what the problem is.
[00:12:59] Because, you know, you talked about it in the offseason because I was down on their defense.
[00:13:03] And you talked about how they had a young talent.
[00:13:06] You know, they're a better defense than I was giving them credit for.
[00:13:10] And that's his specialty is defense.
[00:13:12] You know, Alvin Kamara on offense, of course, is a weapon.
[00:13:16] But then you got your number one receiver who I am going to step back because I was talking a whole lot of stuff about Tua and how I thought he needed to retire.
[00:13:26] Chris Olave, the one that needed to retire.
[00:13:29] I saw the videos that's probably posted now.
[00:13:35] I didn't realize how many games he has been taken off the field due to concussion.
[00:13:41] Yeah, he's got like five of them or so.
[00:13:43] I think he's got five.
[00:13:44] I saw the one I saw.
[00:13:46] So, he had a hit against Detroit.
[00:13:48] He got hit by Tampa Bay.
[00:13:50] He had a game against Atlanta.
[00:13:51] He had a game against Seattle.
[00:13:52] He had this recent game against Carolina.
[00:13:55] Carolina.
[00:13:57] He's only been in the league three years.
[00:13:59] This is his third season.
[00:14:01] So, the video that I saw, I'm going to recall, I believe it was six to seven different video clips of him leaving the game after hitting his head.
[00:14:10] So, that's not even counting the ones where he just made it to the sideline and got back in the game.
[00:14:15] Right.
[00:14:15] Or practice.
[00:14:16] But that was like seven, six or seven that I saw where he was out.
[00:14:20] He looks slight.
[00:14:22] He is.
[00:14:22] He looks like small.
[00:14:24] Like, he's, I don't know if he's quite Devontae Smith small.
[00:14:29] No.
[00:14:29] But I don't see Devontae taking those kind of hits.
[00:14:32] And maybe just the routes that they run.
[00:14:33] But yeah, he took a lot, like I said.
[00:14:35] So, now I think it's time, you know, it was time for regime change.
[00:14:41] Because Derek Carr ain't the answer.
[00:14:43] He's not going to be there beyond this season.
[00:14:46] So, you might as well bring in, in my opinion, you might as well bring in an offensive-minded coach.
[00:14:52] Pair him up with a quarterback from the draft.
[00:14:55] Unless you believe Spencer Rattler can take over as the starting quarterback.
[00:14:59] And I got a few names for you, Mr. Logical.
[00:15:02] Here we go.
[00:15:03] Got a few names for you.
[00:15:04] So, of course, of course, I'm being half serious with this first one.
[00:15:09] Mike McCarthy!
[00:15:11] You know, he's...
[00:15:13] Oh, you got coach names.
[00:15:14] I thought you could go QB names.
[00:15:16] Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
[00:15:17] Mike McCarthy, you know, because right now, he's trolling Dallas with his play calling.
[00:15:22] You know, those fake punts.
[00:15:24] Dak out here tanking.
[00:15:26] You know, like, Dallas is a mess.
[00:15:28] They're falling apart.
[00:15:29] It's the end of his contract anyway.
[00:15:31] So, that could be a smooth transition.
[00:15:33] At the very end of his contract.
[00:15:35] He literally doesn't even have to...
[00:15:36] He doesn't have to stay in Dallas if he doesn't want to.
[00:15:39] Right.
[00:15:39] Here's my name that's going to piss everybody off.
[00:15:41] And I don't even want him to become a head coach.
[00:15:44] But I'm just saying this because he's liked in these circles.
[00:15:47] Kellen Moore.
[00:15:49] He's been liked in all these circles.
[00:15:51] We've been told for years he's going to be a head coach.
[00:15:53] I think Ben Johnson is going to take a better job.
[00:15:56] Like, he's going to take a job that's already established.
[00:15:59] Because he's out here already commanding 15, 20 million dollars.
[00:16:02] So, he's not going to settle for New Orleans.
[00:16:04] That's why I didn't throw his name out there.
[00:16:06] You know, but my last name...
[00:16:07] That's the Lions OC.
[00:16:09] Yes.
[00:16:09] Yes.
[00:16:10] And the last name, the one that I actually am serious about.
[00:16:14] Todd Munkin.
[00:16:16] Offensive coordinator for the Ravens.
[00:16:19] You know, offensive coordinator during a national title run for Georgia a couple years ago with Stetson Bennett.
[00:16:26] You know, like, you see, like, what he's...
[00:16:28] I don't want to say he's turning Lamar Jackson into something.
[00:16:31] But he's simplified that offense and has them humming and efficient.
[00:16:35] But is he a byproduct of...
[00:16:41] I don't want to say anybody can coach.
[00:16:43] I'm going to say any intelligent, above-average football mind at a coaching position with exceptional athleticism and talent can look like a great coach.
[00:16:56] Are you...
[00:16:57] Are we in a situation where, like, who?
[00:17:00] Like, the Philly defensive and offensive coordinators.
[00:17:04] Gannon and Steichen.
[00:17:07] They look like geniuses with the Philadelphia staff and the Philadelphia players.
[00:17:15] They look average.
[00:17:17] Hey.
[00:17:18] They look good, but it's like...
[00:17:19] Yeah, Gannon's in first place right now.
[00:17:21] And Steichen had the Colts one play away from making the playoffs with Garden Mishu last year.
[00:17:27] True.
[00:17:27] And, you know, it was very pedestrian-like.
[00:17:30] It didn't look like it looked in Philly.
[00:17:32] It didn't look like a Super Bowl.
[00:17:33] You don't got A.J. Brown either.
[00:17:35] When you don't have these players, look at Mike McCarthy.
[00:17:38] Mike McCarthy, three years in a row, 36 total wins.
[00:17:42] A couple of dudes twist ankles.
[00:17:44] Now everything looks like it's falling apart.
[00:17:47] So sometimes you kind of got to be wary of, did this guy groom the talent?
[00:17:52] Did this guy make the offense what it is?
[00:17:55] Or did he inherit an all-world greatest running quarterback ever?
[00:18:00] Well, to some degree, you could say that about Mike McDonald.
[00:18:03] You know, when he came to Baltimore, you know, from Michigan, you could say the same type of thing.
[00:18:07] You know, like, you know, he went to a team with Roquan Smith and their secondary was a lot better last year than it is this year.
[00:18:15] You know, so like, I don't know.
[00:18:17] Like, you know, I guess that's where the interviews come in.
[00:18:20] You have people like Eric Bien and me who, you know, get the interviews but can't get the job.
[00:18:24] If I'm New Orleans, I'm making one phone call to Mike Rabel.
[00:18:31] Come down here, bring structure, bring toughness.
[00:18:35] I think his presence, not only as a football coach but just as a big physical presence,
[00:18:43] I think he's going to be like how Dan Campbell came in.
[00:18:47] We all kind of laughed at Detroit.
[00:18:48] But having like that big physical presence, look at Mike McDaniel down in Miami.
[00:18:54] They're already ready to run him off.
[00:18:56] He's like, let's get the ball boy out of here.
[00:18:57] He just doesn't command the room.
[00:19:00] Sometimes you need, like, Bill Belichick had a six-foot demeanor.
[00:19:04] He's probably only about 5'8", but he had like a big demeanor.
[00:19:08] Like, he dominated the room with his personality.
[00:19:12] I think Vrabel in New Orleans, I think that would work because I know for a fact he would hire a good offensive coordinator.
[00:19:21] He's not going to have his fingerprints on that at all.
[00:19:26] Very similar to how Robert Sala in the Jets, he took offensive coordinator that the quarterback wanted,
[00:19:32] and now he gets run out of town.
[00:19:34] I think Vrabel will be the guy that will come in and bring, like, real stability to, I mean,
[00:19:40] an organization that Sean Payton-Drew Brees kind of built back up.
[00:19:44] So let me ask you this, and I'm not – you know I like Mike Vrabel, but I'm just asking.
[00:19:49] I wanted Atlanta to get him.
[00:19:50] I like what Raheem Morris is doing, but, like, my thing was, like, that was a no-brainer
[00:19:54] because I didn't know Raheem Morris was, like, a candidate.
[00:19:56] When Vrabel got fired, I was like, that's a no-brainer, bringing this guy with some toughness
[00:20:00] because I didn't like Arthur Smith.
[00:20:01] I thought he was too soft.
[00:20:03] I thought the team was soft.
[00:20:04] But the question I was going to ask, though, is do you want Mike Vrabel on a team that has
[00:20:11] to start over at quarterback?
[00:20:14] I don't think – the quarterback selection wasn't him.
[00:20:19] No, I know.
[00:20:19] I think he was told to draft these guys because he had Tannehill looking like a pro bowler
[00:20:25] with Derrick Henry in the office of line because that's the toughness piece.
[00:20:31] I need a game manager at quarterback because you got to keep in mind his first few years
[00:20:35] to Tom Brady.
[00:20:36] Tom Brady wasn't out there slinging it.
[00:20:38] Tom Brady was above average intelligence-wise, but he wasn't out there with Peyton Manning
[00:20:43] level stats.
[00:20:43] He was out there, tough defensive line, big linebackers, nothing cute, nothing fancy.
[00:20:50] Oh, we got a 6'4", 220-pound, 230-pound runner back available in the draft?
[00:20:55] Yeah, we're going to take him and we're going to give him the ball 299 times,
[00:21:00] and we'll just see what happens.
[00:21:01] Oh, yeah, he ran for 2,000 yards.
[00:21:03] I think that's what Vrabel will do.
[00:21:05] Because if you gave Bryce Young a good running game, if you gave, like, you can see what
[00:21:10] Jaden Daniels doing.
[00:21:11] Jaden Daniels only has like nine passing touchdowns, but their ability to control the line of scrimmage,
[00:21:16] get on the edge, do the tough things, helps them win.
[00:21:20] And speaking of the Saints, speaking of the Commanders, hail to the Redskins!
[00:21:28] Hail victory!
[00:21:29] Larry Marshawn Lattimore!
[00:21:32] Boy, did my dreams come true, Paul.
[00:21:35] That was a big dream.
[00:21:36] Yeah, because I wanted a corner.
[00:21:38] I didn't necessarily want him, because at the beginning of the season, I didn't know he was available.
[00:21:41] But, you know, but I wanted a corner because, you know, stay with me for a second.
[00:21:47] I'm not doing the thing, but just stay with me for a second.
[00:21:49] You know, so Philly is shaky.
[00:21:52] You know, Nick Sirianni is going to lose Philly games they shouldn't lose.
[00:21:57] They almost lost that game to Jacksonville the other day, for example.
[00:22:00] You know, you got Minnesota, we don't trust Sam Darnold.
[00:22:04] Correct.
[00:22:05] You know, Green Bay, Jordan Love can't stop giving the ball to the other team.
[00:22:10] He's thrown an interception in every game he's played this year.
[00:22:13] Like goddamn Toys for Tots.
[00:22:14] Yeah, Chicago, we're going to throw Chicago to the side.
[00:22:18] You know, Kurt Cousins is playing like an MVP.
[00:22:23] He is the MVP.
[00:22:25] He's not.
[00:22:25] But from a perception standpoint, from a perception standpoint, people disrespect the NFC South.
[00:22:32] You know, people don't want, they're not on the table.
[00:22:33] You know, San Francisco's down.
[00:22:36] You know, the Rams are coming from behind.
[00:22:38] Seattle sucks.
[00:22:39] And then you got what?
[00:22:42] Arizona's in first place right now.
[00:22:43] But, I mean, why can't we make the NFC Championship game against Detroit?
[00:22:50] Because your quarterback has to throw the ball.
[00:22:53] He can throw it.
[00:22:54] He doesn't throw it for touchdowns.
[00:22:55] And I did want another wide receiver, too.
[00:22:58] I was hoping we'd get another wide receiver.
[00:22:59] But it is not all about Washington.
[00:23:02] You know, other teams made some trades, too.
[00:23:05] So, you know, I'm not going to take up all the time to talk about my team.
[00:23:08] I will talk about Mike Williams going to Pittsburgh.
[00:23:14] And this is another one of those things that pisses me off.
[00:23:18] Because I have, you know, before the season started, I wasn't big on the Steelers.
[00:23:23] You know, I said that the Steelers, this was going to be the end of Mike Tomlin's winning season streak.
[00:23:28] The reason that I said that is because Pittsburgh always gives Mike Tomlin spit, bubble gum, and a paper clip.
[00:23:40] And they say, go make the playoffs.
[00:23:43] And he doesn't.
[00:23:44] So, you know what they do?
[00:23:46] They go get trashed because they know he can coach them up.
[00:23:49] So, they went out and got a wide receiver who gets hurt all the time, who has missed seasons.
[00:23:57] You know, now that Keenan Allen's in the NFC with the Bears, he's the AFC Keenan Allen.
[00:24:03] You know, he just came from the Jets where he wasn't doing anything in their offense.
[00:24:07] And you can blame that on Aaron Rodgers.
[00:24:09] Maybe Aaron Rodgers wasn't including him or whatever.
[00:24:12] But Mike Williams has this.
[00:24:13] He was trying to include him.
[00:24:14] He has a desirable size, pause.
[00:24:16] You know what I mean?
[00:24:17] But he can't stay on the field.
[00:24:20] You know, so you integrate him in.
[00:24:24] And you just say, Mike Tomlin, make it happen when they could have got in some of these other receivers business.
[00:24:30] You know, if DeAndre Hopkins was out there, they could have called.
[00:24:33] I don't know.
[00:24:33] But I'm just saying, you could do better than Mike Williams is my point.
[00:24:38] My thing is, I think they just need another body across from Pickens.
[00:24:47] That's going to take some attention.
[00:24:48] Because you can't ignore him.
[00:24:51] Right.
[00:24:51] Like he's too big.
[00:24:52] If he's there.
[00:24:53] If he's there.
[00:24:54] If he's available, then you'll be fine.
[00:24:57] So, like, that's the only piece.
[00:25:00] It's like, I'll give Pittsburgh credit for making the move.
[00:25:04] Yeah, they probably could have gotten Mingo from Carolina.
[00:25:06] But, you know, you got to figure out, okay, who's desperate?
[00:25:09] Who's going to give up a player that could fit in our system with us only giving up very little for him?
[00:25:15] I think it was like a seven-round pick or something.
[00:25:17] Something like that.
[00:25:18] Yeah.
[00:25:20] So then also, and the move that everybody seemed to know was going to happen,
[00:25:29] Z'Darrius Smith traded from the Cleveland Browns to the Detroit Lions.
[00:25:34] Z'Darrius Smith.
[00:25:35] So, no Aiden Hutchinson?
[00:25:37] No problem.
[00:25:39] So, you didn't want to go with the Mike Tannenbaum train where they give Javir Gibbs three first-round picks for Miles Garrett?
[00:25:46] I think Bart, like, we've seen me that clip of Mike Tannenbaum.
[00:25:49] I think he's trolling us at this point because it's like.
[00:25:53] It's just a thing, right?
[00:25:55] I don't think I've ever seen, short of the Ricky Williams trade, where.
[00:26:02] Maybe RG3?
[00:26:04] Or not, was it RG3?
[00:26:05] No, it might have been Carson Wentz.
[00:26:08] Yeah, we've seen, like, these pre-draft trades where you're trying to get from 17 to 1.
[00:26:13] And I think Trey Lance at San Francisco deal was like that.
[00:26:16] But they just gave up picks.
[00:26:18] They didn't give up a player that's currently helping your offense be dynamic.
[00:26:25] Right.
[00:26:25] That's not the same.
[00:26:26] Like, they didn't trade.
[00:26:28] Like, New England didn't trade Randy Moss and three first-round picks for, like, the best defensive end that was out there midseason.
[00:26:35] So, when he even proposed it was Pabashers.
[00:26:37] But Bart Scott was like, yo, you can get Z'Darrius Smith right there on the other side.
[00:26:41] I can get you exactly what you think you can get from Miles Garrett.
[00:26:43] Like, granted, Miles Garrett had three sacks and three plays last week against the Chargers.
[00:26:50] And he is, like, top-notch special.
[00:26:53] But if you could get another guy that gives you eight sacks on the year versus 16, you could take the eight.
[00:27:01] If he can mix in six or seven tackles for loss, that's about the same.
[00:27:06] Yeah.
[00:27:07] You know, as far as the sack yards and, you know, stopping plays in the backfield.
[00:27:11] So, if you can get that from him for $400,000 because Cleveland, the way they write these contracts is basically a bunch of uploaded, front-loaded money.
[00:27:20] And then throughout the season, you're getting paid, like, 80 grand a week because they give you $12 million.
[00:27:25] They get $13 million.
[00:27:26] And you get signed in bonus to keep their salary cap.
[00:27:30] So, when they trade him, I think Detroit's paying them $480,000 for the rest of the season.
[00:27:34] Yeah.
[00:27:35] Because Cleveland paid them $13 million already.
[00:27:37] And this is where, you know, because, like, you know, power ranking style, right?
[00:27:43] I don't care.
[00:27:44] I'm saying Detroit better than Kansas City.
[00:27:47] So what?
[00:27:48] Sue me.
[00:27:49] You know, but, you know, they solidified we're trying to go to the Super Bowl.
[00:27:58] We're here.
[00:27:59] This is our year.
[00:28:00] And I think it might be.
[00:28:01] So, you know, we'll – to be determined.
[00:28:03] You know, but then, keeping it going, you brought up Jonathan Mingo.
[00:28:07] You know, he is a cowboy now.
[00:28:10] It doesn't make any sense.
[00:28:11] It doesn't make any sense.
[00:28:12] But –
[00:28:13] They should be selling.
[00:28:15] They should be selling, selling, selling.
[00:28:17] Like Dan Aykroyd and Eddie Murphy in trading places.
[00:28:21] That'll be after the season.
[00:28:23] I mean, they put Dak on IR.
[00:28:24] You know, even though we saw the game, he was looking at his hand.
[00:28:27] They said it was a hamstring.
[00:28:28] But then I went back and I saw where the injury happened or where it might have happened.
[00:28:32] Yeah.
[00:28:33] That ball came like he – he tweaked something when he threw the ball.
[00:28:37] He tried to pull that pass back.
[00:28:38] You know what I'm saying?
[00:28:39] Like he was throwing the pass to the tight end and tried to pull it back.
[00:28:43] And I think he just kind of, you know, caught himself, if you will.
[00:28:46] So, but, you know, you look at it, this guy is in his third year in the league.
[00:28:51] He's a second-round draft pick out of Ole Miss.
[00:28:54] You know, I don't think of him as a game changer.
[00:28:57] I don't think he's going to go to Dallas, you know, even if Dak is there,
[00:29:01] and make them back to what people thought they were going to be.
[00:29:05] Especially when you know you're playing with the backup quarterback.
[00:29:08] Like why are you training?
[00:29:09] Why are you training for a wide receiver is that you need him to prove something to you
[00:29:14] in order for you to keep him, but you provide him with the backup quarterback
[00:29:18] in a very limited playbook.
[00:29:20] Yeah.
[00:29:21] Even if you go Trey Lance.
[00:29:23] Trey Lance isn't throwing more than 22 to 24 passes a game
[00:29:26] and seven or eight design runs, and he's probably going to go 13 for 24
[00:29:31] and it's 28, 24 passes and 140 yards.
[00:29:36] And I don't know how people feel about fourth-round draft picks, you know,
[00:29:40] but they gave up a fourth-round draft pick for a dude, to my point,
[00:29:44] to Mike's point, has 500 career catching, you know,
[00:29:47] 500 career receiving yards, you know.
[00:29:51] So I don't know what Dallas is doing.
[00:29:53] Maybe they're trying to load the roster or, you know,
[00:29:56] have something to evaluate to go into it.
[00:29:59] The guy wearing two hats and both of them, when he puts them on,
[00:30:07] he says, I'm smarter than everybody else in the room.
[00:30:11] They gave up – they gave up – like, okay, they gave up like a second –
[00:30:24] though they got a fifth-round pick for Amari Cooper like three or four years ago,
[00:30:29] and then Amari went for like a third this year.
[00:30:33] So they got –
[00:30:35] They probably could have traded Amari Cooper for a second or a third
[00:30:39] a few years back.
[00:30:40] But the ego of the owner and the arrogance of the GM being mixed into one person
[00:30:47] caused him to make these moves.
[00:30:49] There's no need for them to go get –
[00:30:51] they could have signed a wide receiver up their practice squad
[00:30:54] with the same amount of years in the league
[00:30:57] and saved their draft picks and tank.
[00:31:00] Like, not necessarily tank, but see what you got.
[00:31:02] You said it's an all-in year, and I think people kind of got that confused
[00:31:05] because I like to play Texas Hold'em.
[00:31:07] And when I say all-in, that means I had to push everything I had
[00:31:12] to the middle of the table.
[00:31:13] Jerry pushed everything he had.
[00:31:15] He gave Dak the money.
[00:31:17] He has no contracts he has to worry about.
[00:31:20] Like, we're all-in.
[00:31:22] And if it doesn't work, I'm getting up from the table.
[00:31:25] I'm going home.
[00:31:26] Like, or if it wins, you get it back.
[00:31:30] But I don't think it's like I'm going all-in.
[00:31:32] I'm going to do everything.
[00:31:34] No, I'm going to go ahead and gamble this year
[00:31:37] and see can I have a lame duck defensive coordinator,
[00:31:40] lame duck offensive coach as far as our contract,
[00:31:43] a quarterback that literally didn't give me any kind of a hometown discount
[00:31:49] because for the last six years, dealing with him in contracts,
[00:31:52] I've been jerking him around,
[00:31:54] a wide receiver that they could have signed in March.
[00:31:57] Whatever the new league year opened, before Amirat St. Braun got his deal,
[00:32:02] C.D. could have had that deal.
[00:32:04] Right.
[00:32:05] And he didn't, and he didn't do it, and it ended up costing him more money.
[00:32:09] So now you're paying $90 million to two guys.
[00:32:12] C.D. Lamb looked like he hurt himself on one of the plays.
[00:32:16] I don't know how long this will keep him out.
[00:32:17] Yeah, he's getting an MRI last night.
[00:32:20] They'll play through anything if you allow them to.
[00:32:23] Well, that's the thing.
[00:32:23] That's $90 million that's not being used.
[00:32:25] They're 3-5.
[00:32:26] They got Philly this week.
[00:32:30] I don't want to say the season's over because we've seen Cooper Rush come in
[00:32:36] and win some games in the league.
[00:32:39] So it's not like they're starting Skylar Thompson or somebody like that.
[00:32:44] I mean, him, Cooper Rush coming in,
[00:32:50] that works if you're trying to win a game 17-14,
[00:32:53] but you do the defense that keeps the other team at the 14 points.
[00:33:00] Philly, you're not beating Philly.
[00:33:03] It's no way to allow you to beat Philly.
[00:33:04] Well, they might be determining when,
[00:33:06] depending on when Sirianni decides to go for two.
[00:33:09] Sirianni can say, yo, for the whole first quarter,
[00:33:12] we're just going to punt every time we get the ball.
[00:33:14] We're not even going to possess the ball, and they will still be.
[00:33:17] Because there's no pass rush.
[00:33:21] There's no pass protection.
[00:33:22] Atlanta was last in the league in sacks.
[00:33:25] They had like six sacks going through.
[00:33:26] Yeah, speaking of which,
[00:33:27] why did Atlanta let Kansas City get Josh Uche?
[00:33:31] Why did Atlanta let Preston Smith go to Pittsburgh?
[00:33:37] We got nothing to do with that.
[00:33:39] Y'all need something.
[00:33:41] Listen, we got the safeties on the back end.
[00:33:48] What up, coach?
[00:33:50] I appreciate the opinion.
[00:33:52] But the only reason he was a solid backup is because the defense kept them in games.
[00:33:58] They could run the ball.
[00:34:00] They had Tony Pollard running the ball.
[00:34:02] They had a stable of wide receivers.
[00:34:05] They had assets for a backup quarterback to work with.
[00:34:10] The team that they have now requires a force multiplier at QB to mask it.
[00:34:16] We'll talk about like, we'll think about this, like Kyler Murray.
[00:34:20] Kyler Murray is a force multiplier because they don't have that much on the outside.
[00:34:24] They have Conner.
[00:34:25] They got the backup running back.
[00:34:27] Marvin Harrison Jr. is a threat.
[00:34:29] The Titans are coming along.
[00:34:31] But he is the offense.
[00:34:32] As he goes, the offense goes.
[00:34:35] Look at a team like the Raiders.
[00:34:37] As soon as they, without Devontae Adams, their quarterback play is, that's why they keep
[00:34:42] yanking guys in and out of line.
[00:34:44] Because you're expecting a quarterback.
[00:34:46] Every team expects their quarterback to be the force multiplier because we have this guy.
[00:34:51] He's going to mask these mistakes.
[00:34:54] Dallas has too much going on as far as injuries, which you can't avoid.
[00:34:58] You can't avoid the fact that your starting defensive linemen aren't there and the backups
[00:35:03] aren't as good.
[00:35:05] It's a reason that one group of guys are starters and the other guys are backups.
[00:35:10] Cooper Rush is a backup, but he's also going into the game full of backups.
[00:35:16] It's a high likelihood that CeeDee Lamb doesn't play this week.
[00:35:19] Even if the guy you draft in Carolina, how much does he know about the offense between
[00:35:26] today being Tuesday?
[00:35:28] With the backup quarterback.
[00:35:29] With the backup quarterback.
[00:35:31] How expanded is this playbook going to be?
[00:35:33] It just seems, okay, cool.
[00:35:35] Let's keep the calm.
[00:35:36] They don't run the ball well.
[00:35:38] So that's the thing.
[00:35:39] All the things that you need Dallas to do or any good team to do to stay above water when
[00:35:47] you have a backup quarterback.
[00:35:50] Dallas hasn't shown that they can do that this year.
[00:35:53] And Mike McCarthy hasn't shown that he can call the right plays.
[00:35:57] That game against Atlanta was just awful.
[00:36:00] That was probably the worst coaching game of his career.
[00:36:04] Honestly, like I said, if you're going to the game plan, you know they don't run the
[00:36:09] ball well.
[00:36:09] And they still have some good plays.
[00:36:11] It just, they don't run it consistently.
[00:36:13] So they rely a lot on Dak.
[00:36:15] Dak was running around a lot more.
[00:36:17] He hadn't had, like the team hadn't had a 15-yard rush all year.
[00:36:21] Right.
[00:36:22] I'm not saying Dallas is bad.
[00:36:24] I'm just saying the available players aren't as good as the guys that are injured.
[00:36:29] So like not having your top players on a team like that when you're putting in a backup
[00:36:35] quarterback, that is the problem.
[00:36:36] If Dallas beats Philly this weekend, they're going to tie Sirianni up to some of those greased
[00:36:42] poles.
[00:36:42] That's what's going to happen.
[00:36:44] But that's the thing.
[00:36:45] Like where, where do you get, if you're Dallas right now with the team that potentially could
[00:36:49] go out there, where do you get, where do you get 14 points?
[00:36:54] Where do you get, where do you get two scoring drives from?
[00:36:58] Jalen Hurts interception.
[00:37:00] I mean, say that nobody touched them.
[00:37:03] Yeah.
[00:37:04] Like, I mean, this offensively in special teams, but that's, that's what happens in the league.
[00:37:09] We talked about New Orleans.
[00:37:10] You missed their car.
[00:37:12] You remember back in Denver.
[00:37:13] You remember back in Denver, Kyle Orton was out there every week putting up 24 to 31 points.
[00:37:18] They weren't winning.
[00:37:19] Tim Tebow came in.
[00:37:20] They were winning game seven to three.
[00:37:22] Maybe the defense will step up.
[00:37:25] I doubt it, but I'm just saying it could happen.
[00:37:29] Angels in the outfield.
[00:37:30] But so I was saying Preston Smith went to Pittsburgh, you know, the Packers sixth all time sack leader,
[00:37:36] you know, so Pittsburgh is just solidifying their defense, I guess.
[00:37:39] You know, Baltimore went out and got a corner today, you know, which is what they needed.
[00:37:47] So, you know, I think teams, I think some of these teams that have made trades besides Washington,
[00:37:53] they show why they are the teams that they are and why they're successful.
[00:37:59] You know, they went and got Trey White from the Rams.
[00:38:02] So, you know, he's coming off an injury.
[00:38:04] You know, obviously it wasn't going so well.
[00:38:07] He's been in and out the lineup, not really playing a lot the last few weeks, but maybe going to a team like Baltimore,
[00:38:13] who's situated might turn them around.
[00:38:17] We'll see.
[00:38:17] And like I said, if you're going to Baltimore, you know, you're going to get opportunities to make plays in the run game and plays on the ball.
[00:38:27] Like you're not going to just be out there on the island doing some vanilla stuff.
[00:38:30] You're going to be able to you're going to be in the box.
[00:38:33] You're going to be able to move around a lot like how Marcus Peters was moving around.
[00:38:36] And that's what I was just about to say.
[00:38:38] People thought you're going to you're going to get an opportunity to show like this is why I'm out here.
[00:38:44] I think some teams that probably should have made a couple of moves, maybe Miami.
[00:38:49] I think Jalen Ramsey might have got a haul from some.
[00:38:52] I think they might have been able to pluck.
[00:38:54] But I don't think Miami is over yet.
[00:38:57] I mean, because they still think about it.
[00:39:00] They still haven't played the Jets yet.
[00:39:02] You know, I'm talking about division wise.
[00:39:03] Obviously, they still haven't played the Jets yet.
[00:39:05] They're already done with Buffalo.
[00:39:07] They played them twice already.
[00:39:08] They don't have to play Buffalo anymore.
[00:39:10] They still got a game with the with the Patriots left over.
[00:39:13] They got the Rams this weekend.
[00:39:16] You know, saying that's the ultimate or Monday Night Football.
[00:39:18] That's the ultimate toss up game.
[00:39:20] You win that game and you start building some momentum over the next few weeks because we talked about it.
[00:39:26] Right.
[00:39:26] We picked them to win the division at the start of the season.
[00:39:28] Both of us did.
[00:39:29] Yeah, I did because I was expecting healthy to a plan in warm weather for 13 out of 17 games.
[00:39:38] And I was going to give him a shot.
[00:39:40] I just don't think this.
[00:39:41] I think the I think the concussion, I think the time off because you got to think about it.
[00:39:46] A guy misses that much time.
[00:39:49] He's rusty.
[00:39:50] So he says he missed four and a half games.
[00:39:54] We look at.
[00:39:54] No, I do think I do think the Rams are on the rise, but they ain't going to win out.
[00:39:58] You know what I'm saying?
[00:39:59] So, like, for example, like, let's just stay with me for a second.
[00:40:02] So Miami, right over the next few weeks.
[00:40:05] Right.
[00:40:06] They're at L.A. for Monday Night Football.
[00:40:08] They play the Raiders.
[00:40:09] They play New England.
[00:40:11] They can't go three and oh or two and one in that stretch.
[00:40:14] Yeah, I picked the Dolphins.
[00:40:15] What's up?
[00:40:15] What you got?
[00:40:17] Who you got?
[00:40:17] I said before the season, you know, but anyway.
[00:40:21] Yeah.
[00:40:21] As a fact, Shane, so that's my opinion.
[00:40:23] Yeah.
[00:40:23] But anyway.
[00:40:24] The Rams are four and four and they have an adult at quarterback and they got a daughter head coach.
[00:40:28] They have playmakers on the outside.
[00:40:30] They have a quarterback that can get him the ball.
[00:40:32] They have a division that seems to be who wants to be in first place this week, who wants to be in first place this week, who was.
[00:40:39] And it seems like, hey, like Seattle had that game one.
[00:40:43] For instance, the overtime fourth and one call.
[00:40:46] I'm I'll argue this the blue in the face.
[00:40:50] I know you only need one yard.
[00:40:53] But you can spread it out.
[00:40:55] You don't have.
[00:40:56] We all know you only need one yard.
[00:40:58] Right.
[00:40:59] Spread it out.
[00:41:00] Use the field as your defense.
[00:41:02] Create gaps.
[00:41:03] You know, you want to run it with Kenneth Walker.
[00:41:06] He can get a yard from shotgun or you spread it out and you get Gino on the center.
[00:41:11] These coaches outspart themselves.
[00:41:13] Dallas did that against y'all.
[00:41:14] They ran the reversal or the end of round on fourth and one.
[00:41:18] Yeah.
[00:41:18] For what?
[00:41:19] Just one yard.
[00:41:21] You don't need to trick me.
[00:41:22] You just need to win.
[00:41:24] You need to win that.
[00:41:25] You just need to push me for one play.
[00:41:27] Three feet.
[00:41:28] You hear that?
[00:41:29] One play.
[00:41:31] Everybody out there is six feet tall.
[00:41:33] You need to do the stand up and push him back on his ass.
[00:41:35] That's that's two yards right there as soon as you hit the ground.
[00:41:38] So if you can push one guy backwards and you're and you fall on top of him and you're running back runs through that hole.
[00:41:45] That's the first down on fourth and one.
[00:41:46] Like I don't know why it's that complicated, but don't bring everybody in because now you have eight dudes in the box for what spread them out.
[00:41:54] Make them move us to safeties back or at least one and get your one yard or quick pass in the flat.
[00:42:01] None of this.
[00:42:01] All of this motion stuff like Cooper, the gene caught Jamar Chase last week for what?
[00:42:06] It is one.
[00:42:07] What are you doing all this?
[00:42:09] If you did all that decoy him because I like I like how we did.
[00:42:12] I like how we didn't rehearse this, but you you keep on feeding me the segue.
[00:42:16] So yeah, Jamar Chase Cincinnati Bengals made a trade.
[00:42:20] They went out and got Khalil Herbert from the Chicago Bears another injured player, but they needed him because that Moss is out for the season.
[00:42:27] Go Utes.
[00:42:28] And you know, but Cincinnati's 27th in rushing.
[00:42:32] You know, so they need help anyway.
[00:42:34] I mean, Chase Brown's been coming on.
[00:42:36] I thought he should have been the starter from day one.
[00:42:37] He is now, but now you just got some depth and another piece that at the very least to catch passes out of the backfield.
[00:42:44] I mean, if you look at Baltimore on Thursday, by the way, I'm picking the Ravens.
[00:42:48] Go ahead.
[00:42:49] If you look at your practice squad players, there's probably a handful of guys on these practice squads that could have just come up and you could have saved your draft picks.
[00:42:59] Well, like why are you trading for an injured guy and another team's injured problem when I can just bring up a running back from like a couple.
[00:43:07] We'll be right back.
[00:43:08] Get a practice squad guys more carries because you're looking like, you know, we're kind of thin here or T Higgins hasn't been healthy for weeks.
[00:43:20] It's like do things preemptively.
[00:43:23] And that's why, like when we make when they see these trades like Mike, the Mike Williams said you talk about Pittsburgh is like, yeah, he's been injured a lot.
[00:43:29] What do you have in the building?
[00:43:31] Like you guys have scouted these guys are on your practice squad.
[00:43:34] You scouted guys that you brought in cut.
[00:43:37] Keep tracking these guys.
[00:43:38] Tell these guys to stay in shape and bring them in instead of wasting draft picks on guys.
[00:43:42] Then you create expectations for them because you waste their draft pick on them versus a guy you called up.
[00:43:49] Right.
[00:43:49] And to your point, you know, girth, the Bengals, you know, couldn't have kept Andy Dalton.
[00:43:58] Well, they could have kept Andy Dalton.
[00:44:02] But the point is, if they would have kept Andy Dalton, they would have been paying him too much that when it came time, you know, they'd be in this position where they got to pay Chase.
[00:44:10] They got to pay Higgins.
[00:44:12] Mike, you're just hoping, man.
[00:44:14] Like there's no evidence to support that that's the case.
[00:44:17] I'm not saying he's not bad.
[00:44:18] I'm not saying that Dallas is a bad team.
[00:44:23] I just think we collectively as fans of the sport and fans of the team, you can't point to any game this year where it looked like they were playing winning football.
[00:44:37] Because even the Cleveland game where they scored 32 points, Dak was like 17 for 32 for like 170 yards.
[00:44:45] It wasn't like he was out there really dueling, dueling it out.
[00:44:48] Yeah, Dak and CD weren't on the same page.
[00:44:51] We're on the same page.
[00:44:52] I don't think he – I don't know how many 100-yard games.
[00:44:56] You can be better if you have the available players.
[00:44:59] Don't forget, you know, Micah Parsons is hurt.
[00:45:02] You know, Blanton gone all year.
[00:45:04] There is nothing wrong with being like, yo, we don't have – like the talent that's on the roster is not all on the field.
[00:45:15] Mm-hmm.
[00:45:17] Yeah, yeah.
[00:45:17] Like I said, they had a lot of good runs against Atlanta.
[00:45:21] They had some big runs, but they couldn't put it together.
[00:45:25] They had four drives where they went to 4-0 fourth line and didn't get it.
[00:45:29] Yeah.
[00:45:29] Then you had the fake punt.
[00:45:30] I mean, it's like –
[00:45:31] Hey, just to let y'all know, Mike is – you know, one Mike podcast, Mike is taking bets.
[00:45:36] Yeah.
[00:45:38] You know, he's taking bets, you know what I'm saying?
[00:45:41] So if you got the smoke, holla at him.
[00:45:44] You know, but no.
[00:45:46] You know, and finally, you know, San Francisco picked up Khalil Davis from Houston.
[00:45:52] You know, he hasn't played a lot.
[00:45:54] Defensive tackle, they needed the depth there.
[00:45:57] A.J.
[00:45:57] Brown is hurt, but the Reaper's there.
[00:45:59] Saquon's there.
[00:46:01] Hurts is there.
[00:46:02] You know, not that Hurts is like this great quarterback or anything.
[00:46:04] Goddard is there.
[00:46:06] Goddard is there.
[00:46:07] You know, the defense is there.
[00:46:08] Nekobe Dean picking off in the end zone to close the game.
[00:46:11] You know, so we'll see.
[00:46:13] We'll see.
[00:46:14] That's why we – you know, that's why we play the games, though.
[00:46:16] You know, like we can say what we think, but shit happens.
[00:46:21] Yeah, it got filled with double digits.
[00:46:23] Speaking of which, we got the first college football rankings of the season.
[00:46:29] Listen, tonight is the night.
[00:46:32] Not only do we have an election, but we got the first rankings of the season.
[00:46:37] And you know I got beef.
[00:46:42] But more than I got beef, I got questions.
[00:46:45] I got questions.
[00:46:46] I agree with you, Mike.
[00:46:47] I agree with you.
[00:46:48] I think the Ravens are going to the Super Bowl as well.
[00:46:51] You know, but as we go, as we look at this, I'm looking at these rankings, 1 through 25, right?
[00:46:59] And I know that this stuff is going to play out.
[00:47:01] But I got to talk about it today.
[00:47:03] I'm not going to wait until December to talk about it.
[00:47:06] We're here right now.
[00:47:08] So let me start off from the top, Mr. Logical.
[00:47:14] Why is Ohio State ahead of Georgia?
[00:47:18] Even though that was my national title pick, I'm just saying, why are they ahead of Georgia?
[00:47:25] Because they only lost by a point to Oregon.
[00:47:28] They only lost by a point to the number one team in the country.
[00:47:31] And they just came back and beat the number three team last week.
[00:47:34] Your transitive property argument.
[00:47:37] Well, so, okay.
[00:47:38] So, all right, let me ask you this.
[00:47:40] And, you know, I hate doing this, but I got to ask it just because we're here.
[00:47:43] Okay.
[00:47:44] Do you think Penn State is better than Texas?
[00:47:48] Yes.
[00:47:49] Okay.
[00:47:50] I don't.
[00:47:51] But, anyway, point being, the reason that I asked that question is because Georgia went into Austin
[00:47:58] and smacked Texas around.
[00:48:01] Ohio State, yeah, they beat Penn State.
[00:48:03] Okay.
[00:48:03] I give them credit for that.
[00:48:05] Before that, they struggled with Nebraska.
[00:48:07] But I can't even go there because Georgia struggled with Florida.
[00:48:12] And if Florida's quarterback didn't get hurt the other day, Florida probably wins that game.
[00:48:17] Georgia also struggled with Kentucky and they lost to Alabama.
[00:48:21] They did.
[00:48:21] But the difference is that I think I value wins more than losses, as dumb as that might sound.
[00:48:28] Because these teams seem to get credit for good losses.
[00:48:32] And your good losses outweigh my good wins.
[00:48:36] I was loaded up the cannon to kind of retort that.
[00:48:40] But it's like, no, that makes a lot of sense.
[00:48:41] Because that was literally that smart.
[00:48:43] Because I think the wins, because everybody isn't.
[00:48:49] Because everyone doesn't.
[00:48:50] It's so many games.
[00:48:51] There's so many teams.
[00:48:52] There's so many dynamics.
[00:48:53] I mean, you got Vanderbilt.
[00:48:54] Vanderbilt throwing a monkey wrench into everybody's plans about beating Alabama.
[00:48:58] And Alabama beating Georgia.
[00:48:59] And then Texas dominating Michigan because we thought Michigan was going to be better.
[00:49:03] And then BYU being undefeated.
[00:49:06] And then you have all these things.
[00:49:08] People thought Colorado was going to be terrible.
[00:49:10] They're looking good.
[00:49:11] Iowa State is looking way better.
[00:49:13] So there's so much going on with the college football landscape that you kind of have to say, well, Ohio State just beat the number three team in the country.
[00:49:22] And their only loss is the number one team in the country.
[00:49:25] They're at two.
[00:49:26] Okay.
[00:49:26] Question number two.
[00:49:30] Is there a possibility that SMU and Indiana could get screwed because of their names?
[00:49:35] So follow me through this.
[00:49:36] Follow me through this.
[00:49:37] So you remember a couple of years ago, you brought it up earlier in our pre-meeting.
[00:49:40] Nick Saban, I think it was two years ago?
[00:49:44] Three years ago maybe?
[00:49:45] No.
[00:49:45] Grace Young's last year.
[00:49:47] Yeah.
[00:49:47] Grace Young's last year, yeah.
[00:49:48] They lost both games on the last play of the game, you know, to Tennessee and to LSU.
[00:49:55] You know, they lost both those games at the buzzer basically.
[00:49:58] And he was like, yo, why can't we get in?
[00:50:01] You would favor us over these teams.
[00:50:03] So when I look at SMU, for example, you know who their only loss to is right now?
[00:50:09] Not Florida State.
[00:50:10] It's BYU.
[00:50:11] It's not Florida State.
[00:50:12] It's BYU.
[00:50:12] They lost to Brigham Young on basically the last play of the game.
[00:50:18] Now, if they go to the ACC championship game, because right now there's three teams with one ACC loss, Clemson, SMU, Pitt.
[00:50:29] SMU just beat Pitt this past weekend.
[00:50:31] I'm sorry, SMU's undefeated.
[00:50:33] I'm sorry.
[00:50:33] SMU's undefeated, yeah.
[00:50:34] Yeah, Clemson and Pitt.
[00:50:35] SMU's undefeated in conference.
[00:50:37] So if they go to the ACC championship game.
[00:50:40] Against Miami.
[00:50:41] Against Miami.
[00:50:44] I got to say, you can't get into playoffs because you lost two games to teams that I have in the playoffs.
[00:50:52] And two teams that might be undefeated.
[00:50:57] If their name was Bama, we wouldn't be having that conversation.
[00:51:01] Yes, we would.
[00:51:02] Because Bama didn't get in.
[00:51:03] Bama wouldn't be in.
[00:51:05] But that's what I'm saying.
[00:51:07] Did they get in?
[00:51:08] They had two losses.
[00:51:09] That Nick Saban.
[00:51:11] If they had one loss, they would have been in.
[00:51:13] If they had one, they would have been in.
[00:51:14] Yeah.
[00:51:15] We know that.
[00:51:16] We know that.
[00:51:17] But the second loss tanked them.
[00:51:19] Of course.
[00:51:20] Because it was only four teams.
[00:51:21] It was only four teams then.
[00:51:22] Yeah, but the second loss should tank you.
[00:51:25] And the committee didn't cave to the whims of Nick Saban literally on TV.
[00:51:33] He was at another game.
[00:51:34] I think he was at the SEC championship game doing his commentary saying,
[00:51:39] we basically lost two games on last second field goals.
[00:51:43] Are you saying we're not one of the top four teams in the country?
[00:51:47] And you very well might be.
[00:51:49] You might.
[00:51:50] But when I'm a chef and I'm making ingredients and you order filet mignon and lobster,
[00:51:56] you can't bring me sirloin and shrimp and say, hey, I want filet mignon and lobster cooked.
[00:52:03] It's like, no, you got to bring me the ingredients.
[00:52:05] So you can't bring me two losses and say you're better than somebody else with one or zero.
[00:52:10] Even though we can look at all the rankings and everything else.
[00:52:12] And I get it.
[00:52:13] Like as a team, they may be better.
[00:52:15] But as a voting entity, last year, we'll use a prime example.
[00:52:21] The ingredients that the committee needed was provided by Florida State's injured quarterback.
[00:52:26] Florida State not having their number one quarterback allowed them to go to the podium and say,
[00:52:31] they're not one of the four best teams in America because they're not playing their starting quarterback.
[00:52:36] They're not a whole team.
[00:52:38] These are the four teams that we selected, Michigan, Alabama, Washington, and Texas.
[00:52:44] These teams are your best four teams in the country.
[00:52:47] With 12 teams, it's going to span out.
[00:52:50] All right.
[00:52:51] We said earlier, like I think it's going to probably be three SEC schools if they can get three.
[00:52:57] If they can rationalize three, it'll probably be three.
[00:53:00] You're probably going to get three Big Ten schools.
[00:53:02] I say four.
[00:53:05] So that gives you six between the two of them.
[00:53:08] And then the other six spots go for it.
[00:53:10] I think the Big Ten and the SEC are both.
[00:53:11] Well, hold on.
[00:53:12] Stay there.
[00:53:13] Stay there.
[00:53:13] So that's where the other team that I told you I was thinking about is Indiana.
[00:53:21] So when you look at Indiana, 9-0 right now, first time in school history, right?
[00:53:26] They play Michigan this weekend, get a bye week, go to Columbus.
[00:53:34] And then they finish with Purdue.
[00:53:36] Here's the question.
[00:53:39] If Indiana loses to Ohio State.
[00:53:43] And finishes third in the Big Ten, and I'm playing the Big Ten championship, do they get in?
[00:53:47] Right.
[00:53:48] Because I would imagine, I would imagine.
[00:53:51] That's probably going to be the best seat in the house for most of these teams.
[00:53:55] And especially –
[00:53:56] If you can have one loss in your third in your conference, and you don't have to risk your loss in the conference championship game, that's probably –
[00:54:04] Ironically, it's probably –
[00:54:05] But see, the problem is if they beat Ohio – if they lose to Ohio State, they can't jump Penn State.
[00:54:14] In these rankings I'm talking about, they can't jump Penn State here.
[00:54:17] Both would have one conference loss, you know, in that scenario.
[00:54:21] But let's reverse it a little bit.
[00:54:25] If Indiana loses to Michigan this weekend and then beats Ohio State –
[00:54:32] They're back.
[00:54:33] They're back in because you've got to let them in.
[00:54:35] They beat Ohio State.
[00:54:36] But if they lose to Ohio State, do we do the – they play the easy schedule, they're not as good, they're not in because they're in.
[00:54:44] This is how I'll take it.
[00:54:48] Pause.
[00:54:49] Pause, yeah.
[00:54:51] If – I'll use the people like I know personally.
[00:54:59] Me, my son.
[00:55:01] We'll go our high school versions of ourselves.
[00:55:04] My son is a sophomore, starting on varsity football, 6'2 1⁄2", 6'3", handsome, tall, curly hair, personable, class president, super popular kid.
[00:55:18] Me, in the 10th grade, I was a smart guy.
[00:55:22] I wasn't very big.
[00:55:23] I didn't stand out.
[00:55:24] I didn't play sports.
[00:55:25] So we're looking for homecoming dates.
[00:55:28] Everybody can buy tickets.
[00:55:30] Everybody can get their outfit.
[00:55:33] He looks like the guy you want to take to, like, the high school guy.
[00:55:37] Like, he fits the whole mold.
[00:55:39] He has everything.
[00:55:40] I can have the same level of intelligence.
[00:55:42] I can be just as smart.
[00:55:43] You can say we're equally as handsome.
[00:55:45] But he has all the other accolades that go along with the high school aura.
[00:55:52] Certain colleges have that homecoming king look, and we want to take them or go with them to the dance.
[00:56:00] Ohio State has it.
[00:56:01] Penn State has it when they're good.
[00:56:04] Miami's going to have it because Miami is the U.
[00:56:07] It's the whole swagger there.
[00:56:10] Alabama with the two losses, they look like, you know, they might not be able to get in.
[00:56:15] Georgia with the one loss.
[00:56:17] Certain schools are just going to get more of a look because they fit the mold that is what they want in the Coswell playoff.
[00:56:26] It doesn't diminish your season.
[00:56:29] It's just like, hey, when it boils down to it, Oregon with the flashy helmets is a better look than Indiana with the doll helmets.
[00:56:40] Boise State, as you're at large, probably rings more bells than Army.
[00:56:45] You know, it's just the blue turf versus the service academy.
[00:56:50] Can they really compete?
[00:56:51] All of these things factor into it.
[00:56:53] Is it fair?
[00:56:54] No.
[00:56:55] Life isn't fair.
[00:56:56] Life isn't fair.
[00:56:58] So question number three.
[00:57:00] As long as you're not getting cheated out of it.
[00:57:02] Like, if they don't get cheated, if they put a ref in there that makes sure that they don't get it or somehow the playing field where they actually play the games is being levied towards one team versus the other, then that's messed up.
[00:57:17] But the voting part, the voting part is, listen, the six foot two and a half handsome football player is probably going to be homecoming king over the dude that's just smart who was in business leaders of America.
[00:57:27] Well, like, so that's where, like I said, I'll get back to this point that I'm about to say, but that's when you get into the whole, like, deserved versus best.
[00:57:38] But we'll come back to that.
[00:57:39] Because, well, actually, we'll get to it right now because here's the next question, third question.
[00:57:44] Why, besides name, why are Penn State and Texas ahead of BYU?
[00:57:54] You can go shrink the schedule.
[00:57:59] Uh-uh.
[00:58:01] You can go name.
[00:58:03] I'm not even going to.
[00:58:04] Like, why would I put this in your pocket?
[00:58:06] It's the name.
[00:58:08] Well, no, because when I look at this, right, because when I look at this, right.
[00:58:11] What's Texas' best win?
[00:58:15] Maybe Vanderbilt?
[00:58:18] Because, I mean, they beat Michigan, but.
[00:58:22] Michigan's kind of a dud.
[00:58:24] They lost to Georgia.
[00:58:26] Yeah, they lost to Georgia, so it's not like you have a Georgia win in your pocket.
[00:58:30] You know, they lost.
[00:58:32] Now, granted, look.
[00:58:33] So, Texas caught the, had the football world, college football world on a string early in the year.
[00:58:40] They got up to number one.
[00:58:43] No one's going to reverse and be like, oh, we had them at number one, but really.
[00:58:47] But no, these are new rankings, though.
[00:58:49] This, you know, this is new rankings.
[00:58:50] But they got up to that level, so they're not going to fall that far.
[00:58:54] Because the rankings are still based on the actual eight people.
[00:58:57] It's not like it's that.
[00:58:58] Right, right.
[00:58:59] So, what I'm looking at, though, is.
[00:59:01] I'm looking at.
[00:59:02] That's why you never got up to.
[00:59:03] Like, we all, like, we played the video games.
[00:59:06] Even when the game was out in 2008, 2009, I played with Utah.
[00:59:09] I would start unranked.
[00:59:11] I create my player.
[00:59:12] I get all the way up to third.
[00:59:14] I simulate the game.
[00:59:15] I was in the National Championship game every year.
[00:59:18] It's just even on the video game where my guy was the Heisman, the Maxwell.
[00:59:23] He won every award.
[00:59:25] When it came down to it, it was simulated.
[00:59:28] And two of your Blue Blood organizations played for the National Championship.
[00:59:32] And my season got simulated starting next year.
[00:59:35] It's just.
[00:59:35] So, in this top 25.
[00:59:36] It's a flawed protocol of college football, yes.
[00:59:39] In this top 25 that I have in my hand, Texas ain't beat nobody on this list.
[00:59:46] Penn State, I'm going down it, ain't beat nobody on this list.
[00:59:53] BYU beat two of them.
[00:59:55] Who they beat.
[00:59:56] SMU and Kansas State.
[00:59:59] They should get more respect.
[01:00:03] Just saying.
[01:00:04] I think they'll get a coin flip opportunities.
[01:00:09] There you go.
[01:00:11] And they'll still be it.
[01:00:12] But it's because of the name.
[01:00:16] That you have to do a little more when you are somewhat the underdog.
[01:00:21] All right.
[01:00:22] It's just a byproduct of so many elements.
[01:00:25] The social ecosystem of our society is like, if you are not the popular,
[01:00:32] sought after entity, you're going to have to do more to be impressive.
[01:00:39] And then someone else is going to have to bring you along.
[01:00:42] Like, somebody in the committee is going to have to argue and advocate for BYU.
[01:00:46] Is it fair?
[01:00:47] No.
[01:00:48] But will these Mormon fans fill these stadiums if they have it?
[01:00:52] They'll get it.
[01:00:54] If it's about money, the Mormons are the second richest.
[01:00:57] Like, Mormonism is the second richest religion in the world.
[01:01:01] So, the money will get there.
[01:01:02] They'll fill the stadium.
[01:01:03] Just for right now, you've got to keep your core blue blood organizations from 1 through 8.
[01:01:12] And then you sprinkle these other guys from 8 through 12.
[01:01:15] Well, BYU got to get through the holy war first.
[01:01:19] Question number four.
[01:01:20] Isaac Wilson.
[01:01:21] Question number four.
[01:01:25] Looking at these rankings.
[01:01:27] If Boise State wins out, nobody's going to jump them.
[01:01:35] Yeah, they're going to be at 12.
[01:01:36] Now, hold up.
[01:01:37] Wait.
[01:01:37] Here's the question, though.
[01:01:39] You know what I mean?
[01:01:40] So, when you look at Boise, good loss, right?
[01:01:44] They lost to Oregon.
[01:01:46] You know, by three points in a game that went back and forth, kickoff returns.
[01:01:51] Oregon needed special teams touchdowns to win this game, right?
[01:01:54] You got number 25 down here, Army, November 23rd.
[01:02:02] Army goes to South Bend, Indiana.
[01:02:06] If Army walks out of that stadium with a win and wins out, can they jump Boise?
[01:02:17] If not, if the answer is no.
[01:02:19] It'll be between, it'll be a conversation between the committee and they're going to say, can the Service Academy compete with the other 11 teams if we put them in?
[01:02:39] And I'm not sure that they are going to want it.
[01:02:43] TCU getting bolly whopped a couple years ago is kind of ended it for the they deserve to be.
[01:02:51] Which is stupid, though, but they want a game in between that.
[01:02:55] But how many people turn the game off?
[01:02:57] I know, but they want a game in between that.
[01:02:59] But I also want to sell these.
[01:03:01] I can't say that they don't.
[01:03:02] I can't say they don't.
[01:03:03] See, this is the thing, right?
[01:03:04] If they would have played, if the year Cincinnati got in.
[01:03:08] If TCU and Hawaii got in.
[01:03:10] Remember back in the day?
[01:03:10] What else did BCS?
[01:03:11] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:03:12] They put Hawaii in.
[01:03:13] They got smacked by Georgia.
[01:03:15] Yeah, like we're never doing this again.
[01:03:17] But they won the game against Oklahoma.
[01:03:19] Right, right.
[01:03:19] Which bought them the Hawaii ticket.
[01:03:23] Hawaii, okay, cool.
[01:03:24] Boise State beat Oklahoma.
[01:03:26] We'll try it again.
[01:03:28] Because Boise State beat Oklahoma.
[01:03:30] Utah beat Alabama.
[01:03:32] And they was like, okay, you know what?
[01:03:33] But let's keep trying this.
[01:03:35] And then whenever the year was Hawaii got mollywhopped.
[01:03:39] They were like, all right, cool.
[01:03:40] Now we proved our point.
[01:03:41] We're going to go back to the traditional.
[01:03:42] And then that one year they pissed me off because they put Boise against TCU.
[01:03:48] Because TCU wasn't in the Big 12 yet.
[01:03:50] They were in the Mountain West.
[01:03:52] Boise was in the WAC at the time.
[01:03:54] And then it was like, let's make them two play each other.
[01:03:57] They won't beat none of us.
[01:04:00] But here we are now.
[01:04:02] But that's where, for me, I look at some of these teams.
[01:04:07] And I'm trying to figure out, where is the line?
[01:04:11] This is question number five.
[01:04:12] This is the last question.
[01:04:13] Looking at this top 25.
[01:04:17] Where is the last line, which is the last number, that you look at a team and say they can get in?
[01:04:25] Before you go, none of these teams are getting in.
[01:04:29] 20.
[01:04:31] Colorado?
[01:04:32] Colorado because their next four games are winnable.
[01:04:42] And then they will get into the Big 12 championship.
[01:04:47] I don't think any of these other teams can leapfrog another team.
[01:04:52] It's going to be tough.
[01:04:53] I do.
[01:04:56] And it starts this weekend.
[01:04:58] Iowa State or Kansas State?
[01:05:00] No.
[01:05:00] It starts this weekend.
[01:05:02] It starts this weekend.
[01:05:03] You got Bama going to Baton Rouge.
[01:05:06] You got Georgia going to Oxford, Mississippi for all intents and purposes.
[01:05:12] Those are elimination games.
[01:05:14] Because for Ole Miss, if they lose, that's their third loss.
[01:05:18] The loser of LSU and Bama, that's their third loss.
[01:05:21] Now you got Georgia and Tennessee in a few weeks.
[01:05:26] That might be another elimination game.
[01:05:29] Because Tennessee, they both only have one loss right now.
[01:05:34] But, you know, if you're going to keep Texas there, the winner of Bama and LSU, you might see some friction.
[01:05:44] Yeah, but that's what you're going to need.
[01:05:46] But as we look at it right now, yeah, so Bama, LSU, one of them is going to cancel themselves out.
[01:05:53] They're going to be either 11, 15, or 25.
[01:05:58] Because whoever loses is dropping.
[01:06:00] All right.
[01:06:01] Well, let's play a quick game then.
[01:06:04] All right.
[01:06:04] LSU beats Bama this weekend.
[01:06:07] Bama drops to about 22 where Louisville is right now.
[01:06:13] Okay.
[01:06:14] I don't think they drop that far.
[01:06:16] They have to.
[01:06:17] There's no – you can't even justify it.
[01:06:19] You can't rationalize it in your –
[01:06:22] If they lose this game to LSU, I think they fall to 16 or 17.
[01:06:26] If they lose this game, they drop to 22.
[01:06:30] Because you can't – how am I going to put Alabama at 6-3?
[01:06:37] Because they still rank on who's the best.
[01:06:42] So they're going to say that Alabama is better than Pitt or whatever.
[01:06:46] You know what I mean?
[01:06:47] Pitt got Clemson in a couple of weeks.
[01:06:49] At home.
[01:06:50] Alabama and Louisville will be side by side either at 20 or 20.
[01:06:55] Okay.
[01:06:55] Or between 20 and 22.
[01:06:57] Because they're out.
[01:06:59] For all intents and purposes, there's no reason to have them at 16
[01:07:02] because they can't get back into 12.
[01:07:04] That's what I'm saying.
[01:07:04] They're out.
[01:07:05] If they – like, I'll give you a team like Notre Dame.
[01:07:09] Notre Dame loses.
[01:07:11] They'll go to 16 because maybe they can get back in.
[01:07:15] But Alabama with three losses, they're not going to waste one of these.
[01:07:17] They're going to go to Florida State.
[01:07:19] They better lose.
[01:07:19] They better lose.
[01:07:20] They're not going to waste one of these team spots.
[01:07:23] They're not going to waste 13 and 19 on Alabama because they can't get back in.
[01:07:26] All right.
[01:07:27] So now Ole Miss beats Georgia this weekend.
[01:07:30] They're at 16.
[01:07:31] Where do they go?
[01:07:33] Ole Miss would be 8-2, 16.
[01:07:40] They would go –
[01:07:41] Do they just take Bama's spot?
[01:07:43] Or, you know, if Bama –
[01:07:44] No, LSU would also be 7-2.
[01:07:50] And Ole Miss would be 8-2.
[01:07:51] And LSU beat Ole Miss.
[01:07:54] So I think you'd probably move them both up to 13 and 14.
[01:07:58] Well, I think Ole Miss is going to – I think they would move higher than that
[01:08:01] just because it's Georgia.
[01:08:02] You know, I think they would move into 11 if LSU beats Bama or whatever.
[01:08:08] Like –
[01:08:09] It's going to take a lot for a two-loss team.
[01:08:13] Like, it's – at some point, it has to be some level of integrity.
[01:08:18] Well, that's why I brought up Indiana.
[01:08:20] We can't just move the SEC teams up to eight because they play each other.
[01:08:23] We get it.
[01:08:24] Every year they play each other.
[01:08:26] That doesn't mean that every single year one team has a fluke victory.
[01:08:30] They need to move –
[01:08:31] And that's why I brought up Indiana because –
[01:08:33] And that's why I brought up Indiana because if they win this weekend,
[01:08:37] Michigan might be their best win of the season because their schedule is so weak.
[01:08:42] So, like, yeah, you would like to honor the undefeated record.
[01:08:45] And they're in the Big Ten.
[01:08:47] So even though they had an easier schedule, it's still a power conference schedule.
[01:08:52] But when I look at Indiana in that context –
[01:08:55] I mean, they're sitting – they're in the top –
[01:08:58] They're in a sweet spot.
[01:08:59] They're in a good spot.
[01:09:01] If they're on the outside, like we look at –
[01:09:05] I mean, Pitt just lost.
[01:09:07] Like A&M.
[01:09:09] A&M has two losses, though.
[01:09:11] You're out –
[01:09:12] Like, at two –
[01:09:12] Okay, okay.
[01:09:13] So Iowa State then.
[01:09:14] Iowa State.
[01:09:14] Iowa State at 7-1.
[01:09:17] They don't play Colorado.
[01:09:19] They don't play BYU.
[01:09:21] But they do, the last game of the season, play Kansas State.
[01:09:25] Yeah.
[01:09:26] So, like, these – they'll eliminate themselves.
[01:09:28] But we all know, like, if the first round, they're all home games.
[01:09:36] They're not stadium games.
[01:09:40] You've got to fill an NFL stadium.
[01:09:43] I mean, it boils down to the – we talked about the money.
[01:09:46] And it's going to be a competitive thing.
[01:09:48] Like, you're not – they're not going to ignore a one-loss BYU
[01:09:52] and try to put in a three-loss LSU team.
[01:09:55] It's just like – the integrity of the sport will be called in the question
[01:09:59] if that's the answer.
[01:10:00] But I do see –
[01:10:01] Will someone be at 14 that might have one loss or a case for – yes.
[01:10:06] Will someone go into their championship game undefeated
[01:10:10] and lose to a two-loss team and be out on the outside of 12?
[01:10:14] Yes.
[01:10:15] It will happen.
[01:10:16] Will it happen to a team like Oregon?
[01:10:19] Probably not.
[01:10:21] Will it happen to a team like BYU?
[01:10:25] Possibly.
[01:10:27] So, the SEC –
[01:10:27] They do SEC bias over here.
[01:10:29] We're talking about the committee.
[01:10:30] Yeah.
[01:10:31] I'm talking about what the committee is going to do.
[01:10:32] I don't think the SEC should just be given –
[01:10:35] Yeah.
[01:10:36] If it were me, Bama would be a lot lower.
[01:10:39] Like, I mean, they beat Georgia, yes.
[01:10:41] But they got two losses.
[01:10:43] One of them is to Vanderbilt.
[01:10:45] The likelihood that they're going to play in the SEC championship is –
[01:10:48] Is zero.
[01:10:49] Just about – you know what I mean?
[01:10:50] Yeah.
[01:10:51] So, them at 11 is –
[01:10:53] Them at 11 is out of respect for them as a team.
[01:10:57] But, ultimately, they're not going to stay at 11.
[01:11:00] Potentially the winner of the Texas-Texas A&M game at the end of the season.
[01:11:05] Potentially.
[01:11:06] The winner of that game is in the SEC title game.
[01:11:09] Because they both have easy schedules going the rest of the way.
[01:11:13] Even though A&M lost to South Carolina this weekend,
[01:11:17] so you could argue that no game is a sure thing.
[01:11:20] You know, but as it stands right now,
[01:11:22] the winner of that game is probably in the SEC championship game.
[01:11:26] The winner of the Georgia-Tennessee game is probably in the SEC championship game.
[01:11:31] You know, because Tennessee's already beat Bama.
[01:11:33] The SEC is going to have –
[01:11:36] They're going to have probably five teams at the end of the year
[01:11:39] that you can articulate an argument for them.
[01:11:44] But they're only – they should be –
[01:11:46] I don't say they should be capped, like it should be a rule.
[01:11:49] But three –
[01:11:50] Because right now, if they had a bunch of undefeated teams,
[01:11:54] I can give you three and a possible.
[01:11:57] Well, that's where the Big Ten comes in.
[01:11:58] Well, that's where the Big Ten comes in because Oregon's undefeated.
[01:12:01] They're probably going to win out.
[01:12:02] You know, they got Maryland, Washington, and I believe Wisconsin.
[01:12:07] They're going to win out.
[01:12:08] You know what I mean?
[01:12:09] You got Ohio State.
[01:12:10] You know, they got Indiana.
[01:12:12] They got Purdue this weekend.
[01:12:14] Indiana in two weeks.
[01:12:15] They got Michigan at the end of the season.
[01:12:17] You know, you got Penn State, you know, who still has Maryland,
[01:12:23] Washington this weekend.
[01:12:25] And you got Miami undefeated.
[01:12:27] Yeah, Miami undefeated.
[01:12:28] And it looks like –
[01:12:29] Hold on, hold on.
[01:12:30] I don't want to count Miami.
[01:12:31] I don't want to count Miami yet.
[01:12:32] I'm just talking about Big Ten right now.
[01:12:34] Then you got Indiana, who's undefeated.
[01:12:38] And that's the thing.
[01:12:39] Indiana doesn't play Oregon or Penn State.
[01:12:42] Penn State doesn't play Oregon or Indiana.
[01:12:46] You know, Ohio State plays Oregon.
[01:12:49] I'm just counting real quick, but I'm listening.
[01:12:51] Ohio State plays Oregon, Penn State, and Indiana.
[01:12:54] So that's where you get into these things, right?
[01:12:57] So do you get to a point in a playoff situation where you're arguing about
[01:13:02] teams getting in?
[01:13:03] Do you go, yeah, but this team had to play this schedule versus –
[01:13:08] like, you know what I mean?
[01:13:09] Like if it's a one-loss, I don't know, Indiana and a one-loss Penn State.
[01:13:13] It kind of washes out.
[01:13:15] Their schedules are the same.
[01:13:17] You know, like Penn State has Illinois on their schedule, so that helps them.
[01:13:20] And Notre Dame still consider themselves independent, correct?
[01:13:23] Correct.
[01:13:23] And they're riding off of the A&M win.
[01:13:26] They beat Louisville as well.
[01:13:28] So Notre Dame has two top 25 wins looking at these rankings.
[01:13:32] Okay.
[01:13:33] As of right now, the Big Ten has four teams in the top 12.
[01:13:41] Yep.
[01:13:41] The SEC does too.
[01:13:42] SEC has four.
[01:13:45] ACC has one.
[01:13:48] Big 12 has one.
[01:13:50] Big 12 has one.
[01:13:52] Independent, and then you have the G5.
[01:13:59] What you're going to get is Big Ten, three is the max.
[01:14:09] SEC, I'm going to say three is the max.
[01:14:12] I'm going to go two and a possible because I think there's going to be scenarios where the ACC championship game could potentially be Miami undefeated,
[01:14:22] one loss SMU.
[01:14:24] One loss SMU beats Miami.
[01:14:27] One loss Miami also gets into the 12.
[01:14:29] So that's going to bump out here.
[01:14:31] That's probably the only, yeah.
[01:14:32] That doesn't play in the championship.
[01:14:34] So if you have three sitting in the top 12, the team that doesn't play in a championship, if we'll say Georgia goes on to win and they end up with the one loss Georgia and they're playing Tennessee, then Tennessee will be the two loss.
[01:14:49] That team will be out and then you're going to move in an ACC school.
[01:14:54] So I think it'll play out right now.
[01:14:56] Right.
[01:14:56] Right now is just a matter of play the games on your schedule.
[01:15:02] Don't look at this because the SEC just, just off, but just by proxy, somebody is going to get, someone's going to get eliminated in the head to head matchups.
[01:15:11] Right.
[01:15:11] And then someone's going to get eliminated when the championship game comes around because you want to be, depends on what conference you're in.
[01:15:18] You want to be third with the one loss, but you don't want it be like you said, you, you value the wins.
[01:15:24] I understand the committee goes with the losses.
[01:15:27] You don't want to be Indiana with a bad loss to Michigan or like, or you can be Indiana third with that Ohio state loss and Ohio state say they run it and they win it.
[01:15:37] But if they beat the undefeated Oregon, both of them are getting in.
[01:15:40] You might not be able to sneak your way in.
[01:15:42] Right.
[01:15:43] And, and, and, and, you know, and if you're Colorado, you're kind of sitting in a bird's eye seat right now.
[01:15:48] You're not going to get it as an at large, obviously, but you know, you got at Texas tech this weekend, you got Utah.
[01:15:57] You know, next week at home, you go to Kansas, who wasn't what people expected to be this year.
[01:16:02] And then you close with Oklahoma state, who basically is, I'd say they're tanking.
[01:16:07] Wrapping up the season.
[01:16:09] Yeah.
[01:16:09] So, so, so like you could possibly go four and O in that stretch.
[01:16:12] And if you do, you're probably in the big 12 championship game.
[01:16:15] You're, you're, you as a, as a, now you, the proverbial sense of you, like the, the, the teams that want to ensure that they get themselves in the top 12.
[01:16:25] If you have two losses right now, but you can win out and play in your conference championship.
[01:16:30] You're probably less, you're probably more relaxed than the undefeated teams who have undefeated teams ahead of them.
[01:16:40] Cause if I'm Colorado, I'm like, listen, if I went out, I play in the big 12 championship.
[01:16:45] That's it.
[01:16:46] That's why I know.
[01:16:47] So, you know, every week we got to win.
[01:16:50] So if you lose, you know, boom, we got three losses.
[01:16:55] We did this to ourselves.
[01:16:55] If you're BYU or Pitt or Iowa state right now, and you're sitting with the one loss and you get another one, it's going to eat at you.
[01:17:05] Cause you're like, you know what?
[01:17:06] If we just would have not lost this game, we would have executed after this timeout.
[01:17:10] If we didn't give up this big play, it's going to crush you to miss it by a game.
[01:17:16] And that's where the big 12 gets interesting.
[01:17:18] That's where the big 12 gets interesting.
[01:17:19] Cause there's a scenario where BYU does lose a game, but they don't play Iowa state or Colorado.
[01:17:28] Colorado plays neither one.
[01:17:29] Iowa state plays neither one.
[01:17:31] So you end up with three, one loss in conference, three, one loss teams.
[01:17:36] You got to figure out who makes the big 12 title game in that scenario.
[01:17:40] You got to figure whatever their tiebreakers are.
[01:17:42] Maybe they go to the losers are out.
[01:17:44] That's how you go to overall record.
[01:17:46] Maybe like whatever, whatever the parameters of the tiebreakers are.
[01:17:48] Well, and that's where, but that's where you figure out that you in that scenario, if BYU does lose, that's where you only get one team in, you know, because you're going to give that other two laws.
[01:18:02] Colorado wins the big 12 championship.
[01:18:04] Yeah.
[01:18:05] So here you go.
[01:18:05] So in the second loss, they're going to, they're going to drop that team right out.
[01:18:09] So it's just like what we talked about with the big 10, the first step head to head, nobody plays each other.
[01:18:15] But, you know, number two, you know, win percentage against all common opponents.
[01:18:21] It would be the same, you know, three, the tie teams will be compared based on win percentage against the next placed common opponent in the standings.
[01:18:32] You know, then you go to, if that doesn't work, you go to combined winning percentage in the conference games of their opponents.
[01:18:39] So that's where you look at the opponent conference schedule to see who beat the best teams, I guess, is the translation there.
[01:18:47] Then if that doesn't work out, you know, they get compared and I don't even know what this means.
[01:18:52] They get compared based on a total number of wins in a 12 game season.
[01:18:56] So I guess whoever has the most wins would win the tiebreaker.
[01:19:00] Why is that not the first one?
[01:19:03] If you don't, if you can't get through that.
[01:19:06] Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.
[01:19:08] So, end of the season, you'll have 11-1 BYU, 11-1 Iowa State.
[01:19:17] And then Colorado would be eliminated.
[01:19:19] And, no, no, no.
[01:19:21] Because they would have 10 wins.
[01:19:23] But that's what I'm saying.
[01:19:24] Why not the first thing?
[01:19:27] Well, the second thing, because I guess head-to-head has to be first.
[01:19:30] We don't need any of this other stuff.
[01:19:32] Well, head-to-head probably has to be first.
[01:19:34] And then you get that.
[01:19:36] It's the overall record.
[01:19:37] Hold up, but wait, let me read this real quick, though.
[01:19:40] So after that, the representative will be chosen based on the highest ranking by sports source analytics
[01:19:49] following the last weekend of the regular season games.
[01:19:52] And then the last one, coin toss.
[01:19:56] Jesus Christ, they're just winging it.
[01:19:58] But it's the same across the board.
[01:19:59] The Big Ten, the ACC.
[01:20:02] See, in the Big Ten, you get this scenario if Ohio State beats Indiana.
[01:20:09] Never mind.
[01:20:10] Because they would have beat Penn State, too, so they would just go.
[01:20:13] So you can't get that scenario.
[01:20:14] If the NFL, if the Cowboys finish the season 11-6 and they're 2-4 in the NFC East and the Eagles finish 10-7 and they're 4-2 in the conference,
[01:20:31] it doesn't matter because the Cowboys got 11 wins.
[01:20:34] Right.
[01:20:35] I don't know why that's not the first thing.
[01:20:40] Well, because we're talking about conference record here, you know what I mean?
[01:20:44] So the overall doesn't matter.
[01:20:45] You could go 6-6 and finish 6-0 in your conference and make the conference title game.
[01:20:52] You know what I'm saying?
[01:20:55] This will never be the case.
[01:20:56] I mean, obviously, that probably would never happen, but I'm just saying.
[01:20:59] That's the extreme thing, but I think if we had some staffers here that could dig into it,
[01:21:03] they could probably find the scenario to wear a 7-5 team.
[01:21:07] Well, I know back in – I don't know what year it was, but it was when the Big East was still a conference.
[01:21:14] Connecticut, UConn, they won the conference at 8-4, and then they went to the Fiesta Bowl and got blown out by Oklahoma.
[01:21:21] You know, that was pre-playoff, but, you know, Big East had a BCS.
[01:21:27] I remember when Florida State beat Virginia Tech in the ACC championship when it was Coastal versus Atlantic.
[01:21:36] But that's the difference.
[01:21:37] That was –
[01:21:39] And they went to the BCS.
[01:21:40] They were the best team in their division of the conference.
[01:21:46] Right.
[01:21:47] So, that made sense to me.
[01:21:50] And they played the head-to-head to determine who was going to go to the BCS Bowl.
[01:21:57] Right.
[01:21:57] And shout out to Q, who's been kind of MIA.
[01:22:00] He tried to argue that Florida State was better than Virginia Tech.
[01:22:05] I'm like, that was one game.
[01:22:06] He's like, nah, they're better, they're better.
[01:22:08] But he's a Colts fan the same year that the San Diego Chargers beat the 14-0 Colts.
[01:22:12] I was like, so, the 8-5 San Diego Chargers beat the 14-0 Colts.
[01:22:19] Yeah.
[01:22:19] Who was – so, that means the Chargers are better than the Colts.
[01:22:22] He goes – he paused.
[01:22:23] He goes, on that day they were – I'm like, get out.
[01:22:26] I think I kicked them out of the shop.
[01:22:27] I made them go stand in the hallway.
[01:22:29] Get out.
[01:22:30] I'm like, get out.
[01:22:30] You see, a lot of this will resolve itself because, like I said, SMU already beat Pitt last week.
[01:22:35] Pitt gets Clemson in, I want to say, two weeks they get Clemson at home.
[01:22:40] So, one of them is going to eliminate the other one if they don't lose before then.
[01:22:45] You know –
[01:22:46] There's going to be two teams on the outside looking in.
[01:22:50] It's probably going to be one head-scratcher and one, eh, we get it.
[01:22:55] So, last question.
[01:22:56] We are used to it as college football fans.
[01:22:59] We're going to be used to – somebody's going to be 13 that should have been 11.
[01:23:04] And someone's going to be 11 that should have been 14.
[01:23:06] Last question.
[01:23:10] How many two-loss teams could you see making the playoff?
[01:23:15] And –
[01:23:16] Two –
[01:23:17] Is that going to be bad?
[01:23:19] 12 games or 13 games?
[01:23:21] Like, champions –
[01:23:21] Either or.
[01:23:22] Either or.
[01:23:23] You know what I'm saying?
[01:23:23] Any way you want to cut it, you know.
[01:23:25] And is there a number that's too bad – or, I'm sorry,
[01:23:30] is there a number that makes the playoff look bad?
[01:23:35] Four of them?
[01:23:38] Four is the number that would make you bad?
[01:23:40] Four, I think four because you would have –
[01:23:46] Well, maybe it would make it seem like college football is more competitive
[01:23:49] because I know, like, the NIL deal,
[01:23:51] they've been kind of trying to shape this argument that it made the –
[01:23:54] made college football less competitive.
[01:23:56] And I'm like, the big schools, they were already putting their money out there.
[01:24:00] They might not have been giving it directly to players,
[01:24:01] but when Oregon can put out four or five PS5s and 85-inch TVs in the locker room,
[01:24:09] you get a high school kid in, that's the same as the NIL money.
[01:24:14] So, the money was always going to be the favorite in the big school.
[01:24:16] Damn, Mike does have to play off.
[01:24:20] That's six for – to look back.
[01:24:22] I don't think six two-loss teams would get in because I don't think there's a lot of –
[01:24:28] Well, Oregon's not going to get two losses.
[01:24:30] Oregon, Ohio State, Georgia, Miami.
[01:24:35] Oregon's not going to end up with two losses.
[01:24:37] I think those four will end up with one, zero or one,
[01:24:41] as they currently stand with their one loss or zero losses.
[01:24:45] Miami, though, they're a team to keep an eye on because they keep starting slow.
[01:24:49] Georgia usually starts slow, but Georgia starts slow when the score is like 6-0,
[01:24:55] you know, 3-0.
[01:24:56] Miami starts slow and falls behind 28-17 and stuff like that,
[01:25:00] like against Duke this weekend.
[01:25:02] And then they have to turn it on in the second half.
[01:25:04] Obviously, they can do it, but you play with fire playing like that.
[01:25:07] You get burned.
[01:25:08] They become live to get upset, you know what I mean?
[01:25:11] But – so, as I look at this –
[01:25:13] But they have a Heisman candidate who's very entertaining.
[01:25:16] He's getting in.
[01:25:17] He's getting in.
[01:25:18] As long as they only lose –
[01:25:20] One game.
[01:25:21] Which ones?
[01:25:22] Which ones?
[01:25:24] So, like – so, as I look at this, Oregon's going to finish with a maximum of one loss.
[01:25:29] And if they do lose, it'll probably be – okay, Miami and Georgia.
[01:25:33] It'll be the Big Ten title game if they lose again.
[01:25:37] Ohio State could lose to Indiana or they could lose in the Big Ten championship game.
[01:25:43] Rivalry.
[01:25:44] Could Michigan beat them up some more?
[01:25:46] Maybe not this year, but –
[01:25:47] A two loss, Miami's not getting in because that –
[01:25:50] I agree.
[01:25:50] I agree.
[01:25:51] Losses would occur after.
[01:25:53] So, essentially, they have four games left.
[01:25:56] They have three regular season games.
[01:25:58] And if they win out, which we're expecting, they get the one –
[01:26:02] They can't lose two of their next four games and then compete for the championship.
[01:26:07] It just wouldn't be a good look.
[01:26:08] I don't think Miami can take a loss unless it's in the ACC championship game.
[01:26:13] Because when you look at their schedule over the next couple of weeks, they have Georgia Tech this weekend.
[01:26:20] That's a road game.
[01:26:22] You know, they have Wake Forest.
[01:26:26] And they close at Syracuse.
[01:26:28] So, if they lose any of those games, they're in trouble.
[01:26:33] Yeah, and they have to –
[01:26:34] Like, they just have to win.
[01:26:36] To your point, the only thing they have –
[01:26:37] To your point, the only thing they would have in that scenario is a Heisman candidate.
[01:26:41] Because when you look at Miami's schedule –
[01:26:42] And the helmet.
[01:26:44] And the helmet.
[01:26:44] But when you look at Miami's schedule, who is it?
[01:26:49] You know, they beat Florida.
[01:26:50] They beat Florida State.
[01:26:52] You know, like, they beat USF.
[01:26:55] They just look like college football.
[01:26:58] They look like the show that you want on TV.
[01:27:03] Every year isn't going to be the same.
[01:27:05] Georgia was dominant in their run.
[01:27:08] And still currently, they're just a dominant team.
[01:27:11] Carson Beck does not look like a superstar.
[01:27:14] No, he doesn't look like it.
[01:27:15] Georgia just looks like man for man, 83 players on the roster.
[01:27:20] They can beat you in a football game, a street fight, an MMA match, rock, paper, scissors,
[01:27:28] whatever you need them to beat you at.
[01:27:30] Carson Beck looked like if they had anything on the bench, he would be on the bench.
[01:27:34] Ohio State is just popular.
[01:27:37] They don't look dominant at all recently.
[01:27:42] They won against Penn State, but they don't look like the way Miami looks in games.
[01:27:48] They don't look spectacular.
[01:27:49] They don't have the swagger that Miami brings.
[01:27:54] Oregon is Oregon.
[01:27:55] They're always going to look great on TV.
[01:27:58] They play well.
[01:27:59] They play fast.
[01:28:01] Their uniforms are always great.
[01:28:02] And I know this might not factor in the sports.
[01:28:05] People are like, oh, this is a sports podcast.
[01:28:06] Why are you talking about those other things?
[01:28:07] All of that factors in.
[01:28:09] To go back to football, the reason that the Dallas Cowboys play in the NFC East and they
[01:28:14] wear the colors that they wear because the owner before Jerry Jones did test runs with different
[01:28:20] color uniforms to see what uniforms popped on TV.
[01:28:23] And he kept them in the NFC East so they can be popular, so they can be seen a lot.
[01:28:28] But college football does that same thing when they pick these teams for these playoffs and
[01:28:32] they pick the matchups that the games that come on at noon.
[01:28:36] They always Alabama's big games are at noon because they want they want people locked into
[01:28:41] Alabama games.
[01:28:42] They want people already starting their day off with Alabama versus whatever big game
[01:28:47] that week.
[01:28:48] You get the ball rolling for the day.
[01:28:50] We'll get the 730 kickoff for Ohio State versus Indiana.
[01:28:55] The kind of and then we'll throw a Boise State and Colorado State on at 1030 so you can finish
[01:29:01] your day out.
[01:29:02] They set this game up like a showcase.
[01:29:04] And as long as the teams that do what they're supposed to do, Georgia dominates, Miami looks
[01:29:10] spectacular, BYU stays sound and stay undefeated, you'll do it.
[01:29:15] You can't try to do what these other teams are doing.
[01:29:17] You got to stick to what you do well.
[01:29:19] And I think what all these teams do well has gotten to this point.
[01:29:23] That's it.
[01:29:24] Alabama had their opportunity and they didn't stick to what they do well.
[01:29:27] You're a powerful team up front, both sides of the ball.
[01:29:30] And at no point this year did you really exploit that capability.
[01:29:34] And that got them on the outside.
[01:29:36] So long as you can stay stay consistent there, you'll be fine.
[01:29:40] But to your point, Mike, they played that game in Eugene.
[01:29:45] Oregon won by one with Ohio State about 10 yards away from field goal range and just ran
[01:29:50] out of time when their quarterback slid.
[01:29:52] And they did look a little herky-jerky rule that got changed.
[01:29:56] Yeah.
[01:29:57] With the 12 men on the field.
[01:29:58] With the 12 men on the field.
[01:30:00] Yeah.
[01:30:00] So like I think Ohio State could beat Oregon on a neutral field.
[01:30:04] I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility.
[01:30:06] Where's the Big Ten championship game?
[01:30:08] Is it in?
[01:30:09] Lucas Oil.
[01:30:10] Oh, yeah.
[01:30:11] So it's a dome.
[01:30:12] Yeah.
[01:30:12] Yeah.
[01:30:13] You get Ohio State on that.
[01:30:15] You know, that's going to be a fast game.
[01:30:17] And they're only in the games in Indiana?
[01:30:19] Yeah.
[01:30:20] That's tough.
[01:30:21] That's going to basically be an Ohio State home game.
[01:30:23] I figure you get 60,000 people in Indianapolis.
[01:30:28] 70,000?
[01:30:29] Let's see.
[01:30:30] I mean, what's the capacity?
[01:30:31] Because I know the MetLife Stadium here is an ultra one.
[01:30:34] You get about 70,000 there.
[01:30:36] I imagine.
[01:30:38] Lucas Oil Stadium, 63,000.
[01:30:41] 63,000?
[01:30:42] So you're probably looking at 37,000 Ohio State fans?
[01:30:46] Yeah.
[01:30:46] And that still might be low.
[01:30:49] Yeah, that might be low.
[01:30:50] Because it's literally one state over.
[01:30:51] Yeah.
[01:30:52] And I don't know how many Oregon fans there are to begin with.
[01:30:55] And I don't know what the Indianapolis.
[01:30:56] The whole state of Oregon can't carry them.
[01:30:58] You know what I mean?
[01:30:59] And I don't know what the infrastructure of the airport in Indianapolis looks like either.
[01:31:05] So if you're the Big Ten, though, that's definitely the conference title game you want.
[01:31:10] You want that Ohio State-Oregon rematch.
[01:31:13] You want Ohio State to win so you can get Oregon and Ohio State into your basketball playoffs.
[01:31:19] Yeah.
[01:31:19] If you're the ACC, you want Miami and Clemson.
[01:31:23] That's what you want if you're the ACC.
[01:31:26] I don't know if Clemson going to get there, though, because they played two good teams this year.
[01:31:29] They lost.
[01:31:30] Clemson's only win over a team with a winning record to date is NC State.
[01:31:35] And that was with NC State's backup quarterback.
[01:31:37] And y'all tried to tell me that Clemson is a national title contender.
[01:31:42] You're really on by Clemson.
[01:31:43] Like, they're at 23, Mike.
[01:31:45] They're not moving up too far.
[01:31:46] No, but they can, though.
[01:31:48] It's not like your Julius Randle take.
[01:31:50] Yes, Julius Randle is good at basketball.
[01:31:52] But Clemson is not moving up.
[01:31:53] You're good.
[01:31:54] You're good.
[01:31:55] They're not going to move up.
[01:32:00] That's football this season.
[01:32:02] You know, but.
[01:32:03] But, yeah, with the ACC, I think what you low-key might want this.
[01:32:10] I don't like.
[01:32:11] So we got to look at the schedule.
[01:32:13] You might want SMU to beat Miami in the ACC championship game.
[01:32:18] Yeah, that's what you want because that scenario gets you two teams.
[01:32:21] That scenario gets you two teams.
[01:32:22] I think every conference should want two teams.
[01:32:26] If you have an opportunity, you want two teams.
[01:32:32] You don't want the committee to be able to pick because you know they're going to squeeze in an SEC school if they can.
[01:32:40] Are they going to squeeze in?
[01:32:43] Well, this is an odd year where you don't have, like, your traditional Pac-12 teams that are good.
[01:32:50] Like a USC, you know, like those.
[01:32:54] USC beat LSU, by the way.
[01:32:56] Like the West Coast teams.
[01:32:57] You don't have that.
[01:32:59] So I think it's a battle of how do we get these SEC schools in and the Big Ten.
[01:33:07] Like I said, ACC, Big 12, which you want.
[01:33:11] I would love to see Deion in the college football playoff.
[01:33:13] I think that would be great.
[01:33:15] Yeah.
[01:33:16] But it just seems like a lot has to go in their favor.
[01:33:19] Right.
[01:33:20] Besides just winning out and controlling their own destiny.
[01:33:23] Yeah.
[01:33:23] And, you know, if you're the Big 12, I guess you want BYU Colorado.
[01:33:28] You know, you don't want BYU Iowa State.
[01:33:31] You don't want BYU Iowa State because you want an undefeated BYU and a one-loss or the two – well, one conference loss, Colorado playing.
[01:33:42] Colorado beats them, but BYU is 12-1.
[01:33:48] They'll get them in at 10 or 11.
[01:33:51] Yeah.
[01:33:52] Yeah.
[01:33:52] And then I guess if you're the SEC, you don't care.
[01:33:55] Like –
[01:33:56] SEC, you just want to play a game.
[01:33:58] Maybe you don't want Ole Miss.
[01:33:59] Maybe you want Georgia-Texas, you know, or if you can find a way to get another Bama-Georgia rematch, I doubt it's going to happen.
[01:34:07] You might want that.
[01:34:08] But I think the SEC wants Georgia and Texas.
[01:34:11] In the SEC, it's going to be – it's going to be very similar to last year with – they're going to have the record and they're going to have the argument.
[01:34:23] But what – I think it happened before.
[01:34:26] I'm trying to think what – like, it's going to be like this.
[01:34:29] You know how the NCAA tournament, you have a school like – like, let's see, like Iona.
[01:34:39] You know, one of these mid-major schools and they're ranked.
[01:34:43] Shout out the new Rochelle.
[01:34:45] Like, they're ranked like 23 or 24, but they play in their – they play in their conference tournament and they lose a championship.
[01:34:56] So, Siena, somebody gets in and now you're Iona.
[01:35:00] Like, yo, we were ranked all year long.
[01:35:02] They're like, well, you really want to get this 18 and 14 Texas team in.
[01:35:05] You don't get the Gonzaga package.
[01:35:07] Yeah.
[01:35:08] So, then you get this 18 and 14 Texas team in or you get, you know, when Kentucky had, you know, a couple of down years, 19 and 13 team in.
[01:35:18] It's like, oh, their VPI, whatever some acronym they come up with that year says it's higher than Iona's, even though they'll be ranked all year long.
[01:35:27] So, like, that's the kind of thing that happens with these smaller schools where the large schools don't have that problem.
[01:35:32] I think we're going to have something very similar to that this year when you get Colorado beating BYU in the Big 12 championship.
[01:35:41] I need chaos.
[01:35:42] I need Boise to lose another game too, you know, just so I can see what we do about this G5 and so you won't be right.
[01:35:50] Oh, so I won't be right?
[01:35:51] Listen, that would be the only thing I'd be right about.
[01:35:55] Everything else I was wrong.
[01:35:56] I think I threw that paper away.
[01:35:57] I was so wrong.
[01:35:57] I was wrong on everything.
[01:35:58] I think I'm probably wrong on every single one of my predictions.
[01:36:02] I'm going to check my F and Duel.
[01:36:03] Oh, yeah.
[01:36:04] So I got my eyes on Indiana and SMU, you know, November 23rd, if Georgia and Tennessee can stay clean until then, you know, Army at Notre Dame on that same day.
[01:36:18] And let the good times roll.
[01:36:20] Yeah.
[01:36:20] Everything else will fall into place.
[01:36:22] Those are the, you know, because like, as you got, as you got Ole Miss, you know, you know, like I said, Ole Miss has a chance this weekend.
[01:36:30] They beat Georgia.
[01:36:31] They might just knock Georgia out of the playoff race.
[01:36:35] You know, so.
[01:36:37] The Falcons are pretty solid.
[01:36:39] I think I still picked them.
[01:36:40] Yeah, you picked them.
[01:36:41] No, that's what he's saying.
[01:36:42] Like, because you said all you had, right?
[01:36:44] Oh, yeah.
[01:36:45] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:36:45] I mean, that was a hard pick.
[01:36:47] I know.
[01:36:50] That's a hard pick.
[01:37:06] Do all the good things.
[01:37:10] See you on Friday.
[01:37:15] Love you.
[01:37:18] Peace.
[01:37:18] Peace.