#sportsreportsasordered - KING'S GAMBIT

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[00:00:21] I am your unorthodox statistician, born left so much you thought I was South Park, uh oh, too far.

[00:00:29] And I got with me the even kill. Born in Texas, raised the VA representing New Jamruz and he told me to tell the world, don't you dare compare Mariah Carey to Whitney Houston.

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[00:00:59] And we're going to have a conversation about NIL. We're going to recap Upset Bloody Saturday.

[00:01:04] We're going to recap the NFL. We're going to talk about the NBA Western Conference, because we're about uh, two and a half weeks away from the season starting.

[00:01:15] So, two weeks actually, two weeks actually, so let's get to it.

[00:01:22] So, Mr. Logical.

[00:01:23] Real quick, real quick before we start this conversation.

[00:01:25] Okay, okay. What you got?

[00:01:27] Mike has been doing an outstanding job behind the scenes.

[00:01:33] Uh, he tracks all of our data. I just kind of bring the personality to the show.

[00:01:39] Uh, so he tracks the data. He's checking everything down. We're approaching over 100,000 views here pretty soon.

[00:01:46] So I was going to mail this and then like have like this grand opening thing, but I figured I'd just do it now.

[00:01:52] So you know, I want to get him a gift, man. It's a lot of hard work, a lot of tracking, a lot of people reaching other people.

[00:01:57] So I got him a gift.

[00:01:59] Oh!

[00:02:00] Let's see, for his first place, Washington Commanders.

[00:02:04] Yes!

[00:02:04] I'm going to get this in the mail to you. That's why I asked for your address the other day. I was like, I'm going to just do it now because he's always giving my flowers every single week with the introductions.

[00:02:12] I never really felt like I pay him a proper due.

[00:02:16] That's awesome. You got him to give another day.

[00:02:19] Yeah, so it's pretty big. Like, I have a pretty big head. You can see it's pretty solid.

[00:02:25] So, hopefully, as a thing at the U.S. Post Office, I can fit it in. Other than that, I'll figure it out.

[00:02:29] But yeah, so I just want to give Mike his flowers, man. It's a lot of work behind the scenes.

[00:02:32] So, shout out to Faye for being a motivator. Shout out to people who watch the show a lot.

[00:02:38] You know, shout out to Otis. Chris hit me up. My crew, old fat-looking niggas. So, you know,

[00:02:43] see everybody doing it. My man Dre, solution of excuses. Shout out to Rach for all the merch that she's making.

[00:02:49] She's making something for you. It's coming in the mail. I know it's not a surprise, but I just want to, you know,

[00:02:53] just want to reach out to the people who put a lot of hard work into the show.

[00:02:56] For sure. He's still looking for Q, too.

[00:02:58] Yeah, Q, I know you've been silent since, you know, your teams are falling apart.

[00:03:02] But it's cool, man. Everybody can have a Kirk Cousins.

[00:03:04] You know what I'm saying? We still love you, bro. We still love you. Come on back.

[00:03:07] You know what I'm saying? But yeah, I appreciate that.

[00:03:11] You know what I'm saying? But we gonna get things started off with get it off my chest.

[00:03:15] You know, the one and only Jimbo Fisher last week had some comments.

[00:03:20] You know, I'm gonna read a couple of them real quick and then Mr. Logical and I will respond to them.

[00:03:25] So the first comment that stood out to me was, quote, I thought really when NIL came in,

[00:03:32] we thought it would be good because some of this there were teams that were doing NIL before NIL was popular.

[00:03:38] OK, I thought NIL would at least make it fair. Take the cheating out of ball. It's made it worse.

[00:03:44] And then the second statement, you know, he said that the NIL made cheating worse, unquote.

[00:03:55] You know, so let's hear it. Mr. Logical, what you thinking?

[00:03:59] Don't pitch in my pocket and tell me it's raining. Shout out to the podcast that stole my saying.

[00:04:04] It's cool. Just, you know, give me credit next time.

[00:04:07] It's crap. And we all knew that that wasn't the case.

[00:04:12] We all knew that it wasn't going to be a level playing field.

[00:04:17] What it was going to do, it would it leveled out for the upper echelon teams.

[00:04:22] So your top 30, 40 programs in America that you got a real shot because you could just offer a little bit more money.

[00:04:30] So instead of Alabama, like I use this as a case support on time.

[00:04:36] Alvin Kamara was like the fourth or fifth running back on Alabama's roster when he got to the campus.

[00:04:42] Now that fourth or fifth guy, instead of being there behind two juniors, a senior and an outstanding five star freshman,

[00:04:50] he can be like, yo, Tulane called, said they'll give me $800,000.

[00:04:56] $800,000, $18,000, $19,000, or $39,000.

[00:04:59] That's a good number to go do a job.

[00:05:03] So that's what it's really helping is it's helping a little bit of that balance.

[00:05:07] But the transfer portal is also taking guys from Tulane, Akron, Arizona, like, you know,

[00:05:16] all these schools that are popular enough and good enough to get a good money.

[00:05:20] They have great equipment, guys working out, great nutrition plan.

[00:05:24] And now schools like Tennessee are plucking them.

[00:05:28] Virginia Tech's plucking those guys.

[00:05:30] So it's like it's working.

[00:05:32] It's working the way it was going to work based off of what was happening behind the scenes.

[00:05:36] It just now is out and open.

[00:05:38] Now the curtain's open.

[00:05:39] It's the Wizard of Oz.

[00:05:41] It's still the Wizard of Oz, but now the curtain's open.

[00:05:43] You see a homeboy on the microphone making a scene and everything else.

[00:05:47] It's now just a matter of are you willing to compete with these schools financially and schematically

[00:05:55] and you're recruiting.

[00:05:57] Nick Saban stepped away, and one of the reasons was he didn't want to have to deal with it,

[00:06:01] which is fine.

[00:06:01] I get it.

[00:06:02] I get it as a coach.

[00:06:03] We talk about these guys who are red shirt and after the four games that this is a new rule.

[00:06:08] I get you have a game on Saturday.

[00:06:14] You got a big game coming up that's going to get you to potentially 6-0 and three of your starters

[00:06:20] who were promised SUVs don't get them.

[00:06:26] And they're like, you know what?

[00:06:26] I'm red shirt.

[00:06:27] I'm going to go to the school that's going to give me the SUV.

[00:06:30] That can be pretty stressful.

[00:06:32] Right.

[00:06:32] But you got to be ready.

[00:06:34] Next man up.

[00:06:36] That's your leverage.

[00:06:37] It might not be the best move, but that's their leverage.

[00:06:39] Well, we saw the transfer portal pay off this weekend.

[00:06:43] You know the name Diego Pavia.

[00:06:47] Does that mean anything to anybody?

[00:06:49] If not, let me tell you why it should.

[00:06:52] Because last year he was the starting quarterback at New Mexico State.

[00:06:56] Mr. Logico and I talked about him pissing on New Mexico's field.

[00:07:00] You know, he went into Jordan hair last year and walked out with a 21 point win over Auburn.

[00:07:08] Turn that into this year.

[00:07:11] He just beat Alabama the other day.

[00:07:15] So, you know, this guy used the transfer portal to take out his own personal vendetta on the state of Alabama.

[00:07:22] You know, so now when you look at this, you know, everybody thinks of the transfer portal as get rich quick.

[00:07:30] And we saw a school like, say, Florida State bring in a key on Coleman, bring in a Jared verse.

[00:07:37] A few others, Johnny Wilson.

[00:07:40] And they wrote it all the way to a 13 and 0 season until that Orange Bowl.

[00:07:44] And then this year they tried to do the same thing again.

[00:07:47] They went out and got DJ Weongale.

[00:07:50] Thought like, hey, let's go get this senior quarterback.

[00:07:53] Put him in our system.

[00:07:54] Even though we lost a lot of people, let's just throw this senior in there and everything's going to remain the same.

[00:08:00] You know, only problem is we learn.

[00:08:03] You still need your high school recruits.

[00:08:05] Because as Mr. Logical would say, you got to have your foundation before you can extend your driveway.

[00:08:12] You know, so Jimbo Fisher on one account, you know, played the transfer portal because he was at Florida State, won a national title, had a Heisman quarterback, James Winston.

[00:08:23] You know, he was making five and a half million a year.

[00:08:26] And then transferred before the sanctions came in.

[00:08:29] Yeah.

[00:08:29] And then some guys down in College Station with a lot of oil money said, hey, why don't you come down here and make seven and a half?

[00:08:36] Now, the problem is, and this is where it gets a little hypocritical with these guys, Jimbo left before the season ended.

[00:08:44] You know, on Wednesday night, he said, I am not going to Texas A&M.

[00:08:50] I am dedicated to this university.

[00:08:53] And then on Saturday, there was an interim coach coaching the game, you know, because he went to Texas A&M.

[00:08:59] So I don't think that we're seeing anything abnormal.

[00:09:03] The only difference is, is that everybody has access to these players now.

[00:09:09] Because back in the day, to your point, back in the day of Bear Bryant, you know, they would sign 120 players.

[00:09:16] Just keep them on the bench so they wouldn't go to Auburn or wouldn't go to Ole Miss.

[00:09:21] You know, now these guys can move.

[00:09:24] But not only that.

[00:09:25] And another thing, coaches used to be able to dictate where you could transfer to.

[00:09:29] Like, if you're an Alabama player and you want to go to Auburn because, like, I'm from Alabama.

[00:09:34] It's in state.

[00:09:35] Nick Saban can be like, nope.

[00:09:37] Nope, not about the SEC school.

[00:09:39] And, like, honestly, it wasn't like that long ago.

[00:09:41] Like, as recently as, like, this last change in the transfer portal rules before that.

[00:09:47] So we're thinking four or five years ago.

[00:09:50] Speaking of NIL, real quick.

[00:09:52] Speaking of NIL.

[00:09:53] You can't transfer.

[00:09:54] And if you go somewhere else, you got to sit out a year.

[00:09:56] Speaking of NIL, LeBron, when you going to get this Akron program popping?

[00:10:01] You know what I'm saying?

[00:10:02] But anyway, no, as I was looking at it, you know, trying to figure out this whole NIL ordeal,

[00:10:08] these players are starting to sit out now because they're saying that they're not getting their promises.

[00:10:13] Their promises, yeah.

[00:10:14] You know, so I wanted to know how you felt about that.

[00:10:16] Like, do you think that there's a thing to this?

[00:10:19] Or do you think that that's just it's easy for them to blame the school because they'll have the public on their side?

[00:10:26] I don't know if they'll have the public because the public seems to lean towards whoever is in charge.

[00:10:32] Like we talked about how people turn on players who want more money from the billionaire.

[00:10:38] So they'll be mad at the millionaire for one more money from the billionaire, but not the billionaire for not one to give the millionaire a little bit more money.

[00:10:47] It's a double edged sword.

[00:10:48] If you have viable future destinations, then maybe write shouldn't work.

[00:10:59] To me, the fact that you didn't get this initial conversation, these initial promises in writing shows a little bit of immaturity in negotiating.

[00:11:12] And like I said, we live and we learn.

[00:11:15] So if you go into negotiation and you just rest on the promises of people and not the documentation of these promises and then five games, then you're like, no, they didn't give it to me.

[00:11:25] If you learn from that and now the next school that wants to promise you the SUV or promise you the $50,000 and you get in a writing.

[00:11:35] OK, that makes sense. But if you do this twice and they didn't give you what they promised you, then like you should learn the first time.

[00:11:42] I don't think it's going to be that common because, like I said, I grew up an Air Force, an Army brat, and I was in the Air Force since I turned 18.

[00:11:50] I mean, I've moved all the time. I like relocating. I like seeing with the new base, a new area, the new people.

[00:11:58] I like seeing that stuff happen a lot, but I live my whole life doing that.

[00:12:03] I don't think everyone likes doing it. I don't know if you really want to go from Virginia Tech to Vanderbilt to Oregon like three years in a row.

[00:12:13] Your family's trying to come see you play. You're from Pennsylvania.

[00:12:16] Now your family has to figure out how to get to the six or seven home games you have out West.

[00:12:21] You know, so it's like I don't understand why people really want to do it.

[00:12:24] Well, that's why Matthew Sluka was such a supernova of a situation because throughout his college career, he played at Holy Cross, you know, up in Massachusetts, you know,

[00:12:37] and was a pretty good player there. You know, his coach went to James Madison, Bob Chesney, and then he came out to UNLV all the way out in Vegas.

[00:12:47] And he's a senior now. 43.8% completion percentage like I brought up.

[00:12:53] So not an NFL quarterback.

[00:12:55] You know what I mean?

[00:12:56] So you're looking at this as I'm trying to get paid.

[00:13:01] UNLV allegedly promised me $100,000.

[00:13:04] I haven't got it yet.

[00:13:06] Well, you know what?

[00:13:07] I know that I don't have this NFL future.

[00:13:09] So I'm going to find me another school that's willing to give me a little bit of money so I can maximize my capital before I graduate or before I run out of eligibility.

[00:13:19] Run out of eligibility, yeah.

[00:13:20] It's not going to work for everybody.

[00:13:22] And the thing is, like, I'm not going to harp on a few, a handful of players because I get it that in order to start a revolution, you need a second wave.

[00:13:33] Like, you have your initial person that stands up and says, we got to do something about this.

[00:13:37] You need a second person, and then it, like, then it snowballs.

[00:13:43] But with this, I don't think it's the same.

[00:13:47] Because if a guy has NFL prospects, if he's projected to be a first or second round pick, then he's probably going to get his money because he's going to have more suitors, more people trying to give him money.

[00:14:01] I think he's going to get more money in briefcases, money through Venmo, money through cash up.

[00:14:07] However you get your money in these NIL deals, he's going to get it because he's projected first or second round pick.

[00:14:12] Like, if you're not one of these picks, then you're going to have to maximize your leverage the best you can.

[00:14:16] I don't think that many players are going to roll the dice.

[00:14:20] Because you can't, even at a young age, you can get blackballed.

[00:14:23] Not even blackballed, you can just be flat out replaced.

[00:14:25] It's like, there's a lot of guys who are 6'4", 235, that can play linebacker.

[00:14:30] Well, you know he's going to have another problem because Hodge-Malik Williamson came in there and, you know, he's playing better than Shluka was.

[00:14:38] You know, I know they lost to Syracuse the other day, but he's playing better than Shluka was and actually throwing the ball downfield.

[00:14:43] So, you know, people might be calling for his services too.

[00:14:46] And that goes back to Jimbo's point of, you know, he brought up like maybe we need revenue sharing.

[00:14:52] We need this and we need that.

[00:14:54] And I don't necessarily agree with that because I don't want to change college football into the NFL.

[00:14:59] There's a reason that they're separate, you know.

[00:15:03] But I just want to see the schools actually on the hook to pay these kids versus having these collectives of boosters and fans.

[00:15:13] And you saw what Tennessee's doing, adding the fee to the season tickets and everything so that they can – so the fan is still footing the bill.

[00:15:21] Because they're like, hey, you're coming to the game.

[00:15:23] You want us to be successful.

[00:15:25] You want to scream Rocky Top at the top of your lungs.

[00:15:27] So you invest in this instead of me.

[00:15:31] Yeah, that's weird to me too because like one part – like I want to disagree not just for argument's sake, but it should be coming on the schools.

[00:15:43] But I don't know if they're going to pay all sports.

[00:15:49] They're not going to pay all the other athletes.

[00:15:51] So because I remember a lot of the allegations that were being dropped by, you know, Ohio State, USC, Michigan, Miami.

[00:16:02] A lot of those conversations were people outside of the school were giving these players money.

[00:16:08] Mm-hmm.

[00:16:10] So now that it's legal, give them the money.

[00:16:14] Right.

[00:16:14] Because the school is like, listen, we're obligated for your health and safety and your education.

[00:16:19] Yes, we're profiting off your plan.

[00:16:22] You didn't negotiate that deal.

[00:16:25] The deal you negotiated was to use your name and your face and your likeness to get paid.

[00:16:31] So go do that.

[00:16:33] It's not a mandate on the school.

[00:16:35] Yes, it's a double-edged sword.

[00:16:38] But that's the piece where they find themselves wrapped in right now.

[00:16:42] Well, there needs to be a compromise.

[00:16:43] So the same way that everybody's upset that these kids are making the decisions to leave, you know, we can't forget that at the end of every season, the coach doesn't have to renew your scholarship.

[00:16:54] You know, so maybe the compromise is contracts, you know, like a one- to two-year deal or something along those lines where you're on the team.

[00:17:05] Like, I can't take your scholarship.

[00:17:07] You know, you get whatever we agree to or you agree to money-wise.

[00:17:11] Because you can't even negotiate the NIL deal until you're enrolled at the university.

[00:17:20] That's my famous phrase, don't piss my pipe.

[00:17:22] Yeah.

[00:17:23] Just take that verbiage out because a lot of the conversation post players showing up in the NIL conversation is kind of shrouded in.

[00:17:34] There's not a lot of oversight to what NIL really means.

[00:17:39] And to me, I look at it like you're here.

[00:17:43] You can sell your name and image to profit.

[00:17:47] That seems simple enough.

[00:17:49] And I know they're going to probably stipulate and put more rules and more rules and more obligations.

[00:17:54] But to even have that, oh, you can negotiate.

[00:17:57] It's like, what's the point?

[00:17:59] Like, if I'm a Texas Tech coach and I'm like, listen, Lubbock, Cadillac, and Buick, they are allowing players.

[00:18:11] They're giving us 10 SUVs for our recruits.

[00:18:16] You guys have access to it.

[00:18:18] We'll get you on the insurance.

[00:18:18] Like, I should be able to say that if I want to get a kid to come to school.

[00:18:23] I shouldn't have to just be like, oh, this is a great program.

[00:18:25] I should be able to give them every single thing that they are potentially allowed to do.

[00:18:31] Like, hey, you can negotiate a deal with these people.

[00:18:33] We are in contract with these people.

[00:18:35] The same way you do any other kind of deal.

[00:18:38] Like, when an agent, when you sign with an agency, they let you know, like, hey, we have a great partnership with Nike and Puma.

[00:18:46] You negotiate your shoe deal with these guys.

[00:18:48] Because our relationship, hey, we have a relationship with Lubbock Oil and Refinery.

[00:18:54] And they pay for you to come to these events or whatever the case may be.

[00:18:59] You should be allowed to do that.

[00:19:01] You shouldn't try to low-key, fake, handcuff the schools and these guys and this fallacy of control.

[00:19:10] It's like, you don't have any.

[00:19:11] You didn't have any before.

[00:19:13] Right.

[00:19:14] And then, you know, in other news, disheartening news maybe, depending on how you feel about it and where your allegiances lie,

[00:19:23] the New York Jetropolitans have decided no mas.

[00:19:28] Robert Sala must go.

[00:19:30] Aaron Rodgers wins again.

[00:19:32] Again, you know, he has the Jets have won two games out of their five on the season.

[00:19:36] And now Aaron Rodgers has won a game off the field.

[00:19:43] I want to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[00:19:44] But it seems very clear that that relationship wasn't blossoming.

[00:19:53] Mm-hmm.

[00:19:57] So, yeah.

[00:20:01] Yeah.

[00:20:03] The schools are definitely mismanaging the leverage, you know, like you're saying.

[00:20:09] They're taking full control of their leverage.

[00:20:12] I talked about the baseball teams always being on strike and getting whatever they want.

[00:20:16] They need to take a page out of their book.

[00:20:19] But Robert Sala, I think he's sitting pretty.

[00:20:22] He's probably got a couple years left on his contract.

[00:20:25] He was in a no-win situation.

[00:20:27] Oh, yeah.

[00:20:28] I got numbers for you, too.

[00:20:29] It was a poorly – it was a – the decisions of the Jets did not make any sense.

[00:20:37] And I give a lot of credit to, you know, watching Nick Wright on First Things First.

[00:20:41] And he kind of, like, highlighted a few things that I also thought as well.

[00:20:45] But he's like, you trade for Hassan Reddick, who didn't want to stay in Philly

[00:20:50] because they wouldn't give him a contract extension that he felt was worth his, you know, his –

[00:20:57] Right.

[00:20:58] He earned.

[00:20:59] His performance that he earned.

[00:21:01] And then you figure you trade for him and not have that negotiation the way you give him what he earned.

[00:21:06] He's like, I'm not showing up there either.

[00:21:08] Like, I didn't want to go to Philly.

[00:21:09] Like, I'm not coming there either for the same issue I had there.

[00:21:14] You brought in a bunch of guys who were injury-prone to play with a quarterback who's coming off injury.

[00:21:19] And I get it.

[00:21:20] Like, these – the – when I hear about these injuries, ACLs, PCLs, MCLs, tech – you know, peck tears and all sort of stuff,

[00:21:29] I'm like, I don't know how they made it.

[00:21:30] I had to rip some wax string off a balloon earlier and, like, six of my fingers were hurting.

[00:21:36] I'm like, this is bothersome.

[00:21:38] Like, I don't know how these guys go out there and play, you know, all these injuries.

[00:21:40] Like, my son gets his knee taped up every week before the game.

[00:21:43] Like, he has to leave school, leave class, like, 30 minutes early, him and, like, five other kids to get taped up and showed it and everything just so they can play the game.

[00:21:51] So, these guys coming back from injury, I'm assuming if he's ready to go, he's ready to go.

[00:21:56] The problem was the guy calling the plays is inadequate at his job.

[00:22:01] And it's very clear.

[00:22:02] So, Robert Sala brought in your quintessential Diva quarterback who had two good years, then an average year.

[00:22:13] So, he had an average year, two great years with MVP, and then another average year, list of playoffs, comes and gets injured.

[00:22:24] And he's not the kind of guy that just makes your team better.

[00:22:28] He is just good at what he does.

[00:22:31] Right.

[00:22:32] It's a difference.

[00:22:34] Patrick Mahomes, last night, Juju Smith-Schuster had 130 yards receiving last night.

[00:22:43] He had 260 yards with New England last year.

[00:22:49] Mahomes makes guys better.

[00:22:51] Even though he's not playing great this year, he makes guys better.

[00:22:55] He's the league of interceptions, by the way.

[00:22:57] Yeah.

[00:22:57] Kelsey had nine catches last night.

[00:23:00] Kareem Hunt played five years for the Browns.

[00:23:04] Had, like, one 100-yard rushing game.

[00:23:06] He had 100 yards last night.

[00:23:07] You know, so, like, things like that.

[00:23:10] Aaron Rodgers is never going to give you that.

[00:23:12] Aaron Rodgers is not going to go to the red zone six or seven times and not get touchdowns and be able to just wash that away, come back on the field, and perform.

[00:23:23] It's just not what he does.

[00:23:25] There's no history of it.

[00:23:27] And Robert Sala basically, once he didn't hug him, the thumbnail we used a couple weeks ago, that was it.

[00:23:34] That was a kiss of death.

[00:23:35] Well, here's – this is how you spell dysfunction.

[00:23:39] So, over the next little bit here, so two years, Robert Sala from the New York Jets is going to make more than $583,000 per month, more than $134,000 per week, $19,000 per day, $799 per hour, and $13.32 per minute.

[00:24:02] I saw that.

[00:24:03] That's how you spell dysfunction, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:24:06] And when you look at the New York Jets, I'm not going to sit up here and act like Robert Sala, you know, was Bill Belichick in the making or, you know, he was running around here on Bill Walsh status or something along those lines because he wasn't.

[00:24:20] You know, there were a lot of games where his teams fell behind.

[00:24:23] They looked flat.

[00:24:24] They didn't look very prepared, you know.

[00:24:26] But you got to contextualize some of that because when you look at Robert Sala's tenure with the Jets, there was a lot of Zach Wilson mixed in with some Tim Boyle, Trevor Simeon.

[00:24:37] You know, there was some Mike White in there.

[00:24:39] So, you know, so first of all, we talk about...

[00:24:42] They looked good game last year.

[00:24:43] They looked awful.

[00:24:43] Yeah, we talk about how these quarterbacks...

[00:24:46] They looked heavy offense.

[00:24:47] We talk about how these quarterbacks like Sam Donald, for example, since he played for the Jets.

[00:24:52] You know, we talk about how, wow, look at him.

[00:24:56] He's got an offensive coach now, Kevin O'Connell, and he looks the part.

[00:25:00] He looks part of what we thought Sam Donald could be at one point.

[00:25:04] But when he was with the Jets, he looked awful.

[00:25:06] So now you look at the Jets.

[00:25:08] It's the same scenario.

[00:25:10] Like, you hired this head coach who was never a head coach before, defensive coordinator with the 49ers.

[00:25:16] You bring him in, and then you bring Zach Wilson in.

[00:25:19] You know, number two draft pick.

[00:25:21] So we'll give you a pass.

[00:25:22] You thought you drafted your future, but you didn't.

[00:25:25] And then you had Trevor Sinney and Tim Boyle and Mike White waiting in the wings.

[00:25:30] So then you fast forward.

[00:25:32] Now you make Jeff Ulbrich the interim, you know, who Mr. Logical knows well because he was the Falcons defensive coordinator, you know, for about five years.

[00:25:44] And they were great.

[00:25:44] I think he was the defensive coordinator.

[00:25:46] He was on the staff.

[00:25:47] He wasn't the defensive coordinator yet, but I think he was on the staff when you guys made the Super Bowl.

[00:25:51] And I think he was the linebackers coach.

[00:25:53] But so he's been around.

[00:25:57] Never been top five or ten in sacks, quarterback pressures, turnovers.

[00:26:03] They just the year they went to the Super Bowl, they just scored like the eighth most points all time in the history of the NFL.

[00:26:09] Right.

[00:26:09] And that's the problem.

[00:26:11] Right.

[00:26:11] Because as the interim, you would think theoretically like, hey, I just got rid of this defensive coach.

[00:26:17] My offense isn't popping right now.

[00:26:19] Let me put an offensive guy in there or whatever.

[00:26:21] Somebody from the offensive staff.

[00:26:23] And let's see if we can, you know, change this around or whatever the case may be.

[00:26:27] A rumor I read, like I couldn't confirm it, but it was Nathaniel Hackett was demoted from play calling by Robert Sala.

[00:26:39] And then after that, Sala was notified that he was fired and he was escorted from the building.

[00:26:45] Yeah.

[00:26:46] There's no video footage.

[00:26:47] He didn't get to see the players.

[00:26:48] There was no video footage.

[00:26:50] I think these are just reports.

[00:26:51] And I believe I believe a lot of times people use the media to spread misinformation, disinformation.

[00:26:58] So it might have been a situation where he was like, yo, I'm out.

[00:27:03] Or maybe he cut somebody out and they were like, you got to leave.

[00:27:06] And he walked out.

[00:27:07] But listen, as a person that's been escorted out of DMV, it happens.

[00:27:11] It's not always because you're completely out of control.

[00:27:13] It's just the person you're dealing with might not want to hear what you have to say.

[00:27:16] You might have some valid points like I did the day that the dude with the gun walked me out of DMV.

[00:27:22] But I still got my license.

[00:27:23] I didn't have to ride around this permit, you know, as a 40-year-old.

[00:27:28] But sometimes you might have to cut somebody out.

[00:27:31] And apparently Woody Johnson met with Aaron Rodgers at some point yesterday.

[00:27:36] And said he didn't mention it.

[00:27:37] Yeah, he said he didn't mention Sala at all.

[00:27:39] I'm about to change the trajectory of your season and you're 40 and I don't mention it.

[00:27:44] And you're like, you are our cash cow.

[00:27:46] And look, I'm no Aaron Rodgers fan by any stretch of the imagination.

[00:27:51] But you can't tell me that a quarterback of his stature is not going to be told this is what I'm doing.

[00:27:59] It's the equivalent of LeBron not knowing they were firing Darvin Ham.

[00:28:04] Right.

[00:28:06] Even if he wanted it or didn't want it, that conversation will be for them because that person has to make career decisions based off of, especially when it's long in the tube.

[00:28:17] Say Aaron is like, you know what?

[00:28:20] This is too much dysfunction for me.

[00:28:22] I'm shutting it down.

[00:28:24] I'm going to turn in my retirement papers.

[00:28:26] I'm going to go call games with Tony Romo and Tom Brady.

[00:28:29] You got to give him that.

[00:28:33] Jeopardy when it was on the table.

[00:28:35] That's what he should have did.

[00:28:36] You know, yeah, the Cowboys wouldn't.

[00:28:38] But hey, but down that you bring that up.

[00:28:41] This is last year.

[00:28:43] Jacksonville wouldn't fire Peterson without talking to Trevor Lawrence.

[00:28:48] Oh, that's already in the works.

[00:28:49] Don't worry about it.

[00:28:50] I'm just saying, like, hey, brace yourself.

[00:28:54] There's going to be breaking news regarding our team.

[00:28:58] Right.

[00:28:58] After a tough loss when you threw three and a second.

[00:29:00] Like, yo, just don't even turn on SportsCenter today.

[00:29:02] Like, I'm about to let you know right now.

[00:29:04] I heard a stat when I was watching the game.

[00:29:07] It said Aaron Rodgers hasn't come back from being down 17 in six years.

[00:29:15] And I guess 17 is three possessions.

[00:29:17] But they were down 17 in the first half.

[00:29:20] You get a touchdown.

[00:29:22] You get a stop.

[00:29:23] You get another touchdown.

[00:29:24] It's not out of the norm to get a couple of touchdowns in a row and then go back, back and forth.

[00:29:34] He is just not the guy.

[00:29:39] He's not the guy that you bring in when your team is partially in a rebuild.

[00:29:45] And the Jets are an organization that has they have failed consistently every single time they're in this position.

[00:29:53] You're in a rebuild.

[00:29:55] You're right.

[00:29:56] But you still don't have the future.

[00:29:57] You went and got Tyrod Taylor.

[00:29:59] You drafted Jordan Travis, who was a fifth-round pick.

[00:30:02] So you still don't even have somebody for him to mentor anyway.

[00:30:06] That's what I'm saying.

[00:30:06] They just – and people say the New York media –

[00:30:10] Yeah, that was on Get Up, by the way.

[00:30:11] Yeah.

[00:30:12] Wow.

[00:30:13] But, yeah.

[00:30:14] Jets fans love their team.

[00:30:16] They're going to come to MetLife Stadium.

[00:30:19] They're going to tailgate.

[00:30:20] They're going to watch the stadium.

[00:30:22] They're going to cheer along, whether it's cold off the – you know, breeze off the East River or the Hudson River, whatever the case may be.

[00:30:31] Whether you plan a game against the Falcons where nobody's effective in the rain.

[00:30:36] Yo, when it's just 50 hand-alls per team, they're going to be there.

[00:30:41] Yeah, where was Aaron Rodgers and Nathaniel Hackett – where were they two weeks ago when they lost to the Broncos 10-9 to a rookie?

[00:30:49] Remember, we talked about that.

[00:30:50] Like, hey, the Jets have these quarterbacks on their schedule that, you know, should set them up.

[00:30:56] Like, even though neither one of us picked them to make the playoffs, neither one of us thought they were a good team anyway.

[00:31:01] They had a few wide-open, fast-break layups with no contesting defense, and then they actively butchered that away.

[00:31:10] Right.

[00:31:11] And it's because there has to be some semblance of a hierarchy and a meritocracy in an organization.

[00:31:20] Right.

[00:31:21] I currently, like I said, I'm a contractor for the Air Force.

[00:31:25] The unit I worked in, people didn't like the commander.

[00:31:29] People didn't like the director of operations.

[00:31:31] The two of them kind of, like, bonded together.

[00:31:34] And they had their mission.

[00:31:36] And people outside of those offices, we couldn't understand the why.

[00:31:41] Right.

[00:31:42] So we got a new regime in.

[00:31:44] We understand the why.

[00:31:46] And even when we don't understand something, the new commander comes to the desk and he explains.

[00:31:51] Boom.

[00:31:52] We got this, this, this, and this.

[00:31:53] Sometimes you got to charge a hill.

[00:31:55] And we get it.

[00:31:55] Military.

[00:31:56] I did it.

[00:31:57] You see the flag.

[00:31:58] You see all retirement.

[00:31:59] Like, I understand that.

[00:32:00] But in the same sense, people still have to understand the why.

[00:32:03] Right.

[00:32:04] The Jets don't have the person that can tell Aaron, we're running the ball seven times in a row.

[00:32:11] Right.

[00:32:12] And don't check to a pass play.

[00:32:14] Right.

[00:32:15] And these are the runs we're going to run.

[00:32:17] Or you're going to throw this screen pass.

[00:32:20] No, you're not going to look for that because you think this scene where I was open and cover three and you're going to get Gary Wilson because you guys aren't on the same page.

[00:32:27] It is not working.

[00:32:29] Check it to Brito.

[00:32:31] Check it to this 20-year-old man child we have coming out of the back now.

[00:32:35] Yeah.

[00:32:36] Give it to him.

[00:32:37] Maybe some quick stuff to Gary Wilson, but everything up the seam, you guys aren't on the same page.

[00:32:43] At least remember that you have Gary Wilson on the field.

[00:32:45] You know?

[00:32:46] He went to him like 30.

[00:32:48] Yeah, he got a bunch of targets against Minnesota.

[00:32:50] Yeah.

[00:32:52] And to answer your question, Residente, Greenberg from my gathering was basically not a fan.

[00:32:59] He's a fan of Salah, but felt that you should at least have given him 12 games this year to see if they're sitting around 500 or so.

[00:33:07] I don't know why he chose 12 games, but that was his takeaway.

[00:33:12] Well, I think you can fire him whenever you feel like you need to fire him.

[00:33:15] Well, I think you let him coach out the season because, I mean, like, because for me, for me, like.

[00:33:21] I got to like being around you.

[00:33:24] If I want to fire somebody first, I have to actually realize if you are the problem or not.

[00:33:33] Because at the end of the day, they let Aaron Rodgers hijack their franchise, but they're paying him too much to tell him to take a walk.

[00:33:41] Like, Aaron Rodgers can leave, like you said, but the Jets are paying him too much to tell him to take a walk.

[00:33:47] So, Salah is just the guy left standing.

[00:33:50] I mean, I think he probably would have got fired after this season anyway.

[00:33:53] You know what I mean?

[00:33:54] But you probably, if Aaron Rodgers played out last season healthy, they'd be in the same boat.

[00:34:01] Nine and eight.

[00:34:03] Struggling to make 10 and seven at best.

[00:34:05] They probably won a bunch of games, 13 to 10.

[00:34:08] Because Aaron Rodgers didn't have a great last year in Green Bay.

[00:34:13] If you don't get him Devontae Adams, then it's going to look like, because I look at it like this.

[00:34:19] That's the only place Devontae would want to go.

[00:34:22] So, but when you fire the coach, it has to give him pause.

[00:34:26] It has to give him a little concern.

[00:34:27] Like, are you guys serious?

[00:34:29] Like, I'm already dealing with this.

[00:34:32] Derek Carr got injured, so he's out for three or four weeks potentially.

[00:34:35] So, maybe it still opens the door for the Jets.

[00:34:38] So, maybe they'll still get like a gift that they don't deserve because they haven't really worked for it.

[00:34:43] It's just going to kind of land.

[00:34:45] Very similar to how Peyton Manning just landed in Denver because they were just looking around like, oh, there's no other place to go.

[00:34:51] I'll just go to Denver.

[00:34:52] Or it could be the team that I told you that Dallas was going to walk into their stadium on Sunday night and walk out victorious.

[00:35:04] He's not going to Pittsburgh.

[00:35:06] You know, I know the Steelers made their aggressive move to try to get Brandon Ayuk in the offseason.

[00:35:10] I think he would have been a better fit than what Devontae Adams would be.

[00:35:13] But, you know, looking at the Steelers, you know, are you concerned?

[00:35:19] Yeah.

[00:35:20] I'm concerned because Justin Fields looks like a rookie and they call plays for him like he's a rookie.

[00:35:26] Like his plays look like plays you call for a rookie quarterback.

[00:35:33] Not a guy learning a system.

[00:35:35] We get it.

[00:35:35] Guys learn new systems all the time.

[00:35:37] Offensive coordinators get hired on every year.

[00:35:40] Jared Goff has a great season this year.

[00:35:42] The offense coordinator is probably gone.

[00:35:44] Caleb Williams has a good year.

[00:35:46] The offense coordinator is probably gone.

[00:35:48] The Houston's off.

[00:35:49] Like coordinators go every year.

[00:35:51] You get new systems.

[00:35:52] Kirk Cousins has thrown for 450 yards with three different teams.

[00:35:56] Sam Darnold was a terrible quarterback with the Jets and a mediocre one with the Panthers.

[00:36:01] Now he's, you know, MVP chatter with the Vikings because the guy call and plays.

[00:36:07] Justin Fields does not look like a guy that's been in the league who's second contract.

[00:36:15] That's the problem.

[00:36:17] I don't think there was.

[00:36:18] I don't think the wide receiver core.

[00:36:20] I don't think Pickens is any good.

[00:36:22] I don't think.

[00:36:22] I think Frymuth is a good tight end, but there's no threat.

[00:36:27] I think Najee Harris basically just runs into people and just doesn't see holes.

[00:36:33] It would be nice to have Jalen Warren, right?

[00:36:35] It would be nice to have a running back that, you know, make a jump cut and accelerate instead of just plowing into people like a tight end with the ball out of the backfield.

[00:36:45] Like, it just, I don't think, I don't know who calls the shots in Pittsburgh, but if we can kind of equate this to college.

[00:36:56] Nick Saban for years, even while they were winning national championships, it was big defensive linemen, big running backs, quarterbacks that weren't going to throw interceptions.

[00:37:12] It changed.

[00:37:13] He started going four wide.

[00:37:15] He brought in guys like Lane Kiffin, Bill O'Brien, Sarkeesian, guys who were looking to be offensive innovators and kind of let him do his thing because, like, I can get the players here, but if I get him here, goddammit, you better give me 40 points.

[00:37:30] Yeah, they were saying that Nick Saban would send Kiffin basically on, like, missions, like, go to Michigan State and go to this place, go to Oregon and come back with concepts.

[00:37:42] Yeah.

[00:37:43] I don't know if Mike Tomlin does that.

[00:37:45] I think they draft offensive players the way they draft defensive players, whereas we talked about, remember the old school Colts, the Peyton Manning Colts, Bob Sanders, probably like 5'8", 208.

[00:37:59] I mean, he could hit a brick wall down if he needed to, but they had a small, fast defense, and if Peyton Manning could get them up 10, 14-0, 14-3, then that defense was effective.

[00:38:14] Right.

[00:38:14] But if the other team could run the ball downhill, it was ineffective.

[00:38:17] I think Pittsburgh does a reverse.

[00:38:19] I think Pittsburgh has that vaunted, big, solid, strong defense, and then they match it with this big, solid, strong offense, and it's like, you need a fluid offense.

[00:38:30] You need an offense that can wiggle through holes because Najee Harris is not going to plow over.

[00:38:36] He's not going to plow through the guard in the tackle or the guard in the center of the middle and then get, like, that's just not how it's going to work.

[00:38:44] You got to get them on the edge.

[00:38:45] You got to put some speed in, but Justin Fields is out there looking like this is the first time he's seen cover two, cover three, man defense, zone blitz, fire.

[00:38:55] So I know that they're 3-2.

[00:38:57] You know what I mean?

[00:38:57] They started out 3-0.

[00:38:58] They've lost their last two.

[00:39:00] Are you in a place –

[00:39:01] It's very similar to that Ben Roethlisberger 11-0 for a few years.

[00:39:04] Yeah, are you in a place where you would – well, I don't want to say overreact because I don't know how you feel about it.

[00:39:12] Would you bench him or think about benching him?

[00:39:15] I wouldn't bench him.

[00:39:16] I would just – I'd make a move for a true number two wide receiver or even a number one.

[00:39:26] Like, I don't think Devontae Adams would go there simply because they look.

[00:39:31] Look, the same reason I felt with Lamar.

[00:39:33] I think Lamar is a good quarterback.

[00:39:35] I think he's a great athlete.

[00:39:37] I think he's a great player, good quarterback.

[00:39:40] And I think he makes more plays off schedule, and I think Devontae Adams wants him on schedule.

[00:39:46] I'm here.

[00:39:48] I'm at eight yards on this curl route.

[00:39:50] Give me the ball.

[00:39:51] See, I'm concerned too, but I'm concerned about Dallas.

[00:39:55] The Cowboys?

[00:39:56] Yeah, like –

[00:39:57] The Cowboys concerns – I'm not concerned about the Cowboys because we already knew what they were.

[00:40:00] They can't run the ball.

[00:40:02] They brought in Zeke.

[00:40:03] Yeah, but I mean – but Dak hasn't even looked close to decent this season.

[00:40:09] You know what I mean?

[00:40:10] Like, obviously he came through when it mattered, you know, on the last drive the other night.

[00:40:13] I think it took these guys a few games.

[00:40:15] You know.

[00:40:16] Like, remember how there was no 300-yard games for the first couple of weeks?

[00:40:20] But I feel the same way.

[00:40:22] It's not just a Dak thing, though.

[00:40:23] I mean, there's still a couple of guys out there, like Jared Goff's out there.

[00:40:26] Like, I feel that way about him.

[00:40:27] They had the bye week this week.

[00:40:29] They play each other this week.

[00:40:30] So we'll see how they come back off the line.

[00:40:32] Yeah, but he was 18 for 18 his last game.

[00:40:33] I know.

[00:40:34] I've got to score interceptions.

[00:40:35] Mahomes leading the league in interceptions.

[00:40:37] Like, some of these things, you know, are just fluid.

[00:40:40] But, you know, but back to Pittsburgh for a second.

[00:40:42] You know, I saw something that concerned me a little bit too, but it was on the other side of the ball.

[00:40:46] We know what T.J. Watt brings to the table.

[00:40:50] You know, Patrick Queen hasn't been Patrick Queen.

[00:40:54] You know, but what caught my eye was Minka Fitzpatrick.

[00:40:57] I remember when he first got to Pittsburgh.

[00:41:00] It was like that deal of the century.

[00:41:02] Like, oh, my God.

[00:41:03] They went out and got somebody for their secondary.

[00:41:05] It's very similar to how Jesse Bates' impact.

[00:41:08] Yes.

[00:41:08] Yes.

[00:41:09] But in his last 17 games, you know, no interceptions.

[00:41:14] No.

[00:41:16] He's averaging less than five tackles per game.

[00:41:19] Like, it's just I don't want to say he's declining or I don't, you know, I got to look at them more to see if it's a scheme thing.

[00:41:25] Maybe the scheme.

[00:41:25] Maybe.

[00:41:26] Yeah, maybe the scheme.

[00:41:27] How about Jamal Adams?

[00:41:28] Jamal Adams was a great safety.

[00:41:30] He's overrated anyway.

[00:41:32] Didn't have a lot of interceptions, but it was like, well, he was playing more like a deep linebacker.

[00:41:38] Right.

[00:41:38] But the difference is with Minka Fitzpatrick, that's what he was doing, though.

[00:41:43] You know, he was.

[00:41:44] Maybe he was.

[00:41:45] Maybe.

[00:41:45] That's why I got to look at it more.

[00:41:46] But it's just something that stood out to me.

[00:41:48] But in other upsets, you told me that Arizona was going to walk in and walk out with their hands up in the air.

[00:42:00] Kyler Murray first play of the game throwing up his hand like 45 yards from the end zone.

[00:42:06] He pulled a Tyree kill on the 49ers and said, I'm out of here.

[00:42:09] So I said, you know what?

[00:42:11] Okay, Kyler, you got you one.

[00:42:14] And then the 49ers came back.

[00:42:16] It was a back and forth game.

[00:42:17] Really good game.

[00:42:18] And then, you know, I got the message in the chat.

[00:42:21] You know, why did Arizona go for two?

[00:42:23] And I was just trying to explain it.

[00:42:25] I was like, so that way, if they're going to stop, they'll go down for the win instead of overtime.

[00:42:30] I didn't expect them to actually get the stop.

[00:42:33] That's the thing.

[00:42:34] I saw Arthur Smith do it last year.

[00:42:36] It was probably maybe, I'm going to say nine minutes left from the fourth.

[00:42:40] Atlanta was down 21-7.

[00:42:43] They got the touchdown.

[00:42:46] And then.

[00:42:46] Don't be like that.

[00:42:47] Number two.

[00:42:52] Callum.

[00:42:53] I like the NFL.

[00:42:55] I like what it's doing.

[00:42:56] It's not scripted.

[00:42:57] I'm going to keep saying it every week because I don't know why people keep saying it.

[00:43:00] Like, they don't give a fuck about Taylor Swift.

[00:43:02] She's been popular for 15 years and she hasn't been in any football games and the NFL has done just fine.

[00:43:10] I like what they're doing.

[00:43:11] I like what Colin Murray's doing.

[00:43:12] I like the playmaker aspect of it.

[00:43:14] I know he's undersized.

[00:43:16] He's probably, if he walked in my house, he'd be the shortest person in here and I'm not very tall.

[00:43:21] So, I like what he's doing.

[00:43:24] Like I said, I like a team that just kind of relies on their identity.

[00:43:28] Like, listen, we got a quarterback that likes to swing the ball down the field.

[00:43:33] It's all backyard football.

[00:43:37] Like drawing it on your hand.

[00:43:38] You go ahead.

[00:43:40] Like you get in a huddle and the play comes in.

[00:43:43] He just turns the headset off and be like, yo, what do you see?

[00:43:46] Like, listen, man, he's off of me like 12 yards.

[00:43:49] Did he ever waves off the coach?

[00:43:50] He's like, I got this.

[00:43:52] Absolutely.

[00:43:53] He did it before.

[00:43:54] He did it in Kingsbury.

[00:43:56] When they called a timeout, he was like yelling about it.

[00:44:00] Sometimes you got to let playmakers be playmakers.

[00:44:02] Like I said, I say the same thing about Lamar.

[00:44:04] But with that being said, the reason I think that works for Marvin Harrison Jr.

[00:44:08] Because I don't know if Marvin Harrison Jr. has that whole, I'm going to be at 12 yards because this is the route.

[00:44:15] It's more like, I'm going to be open because this guy can't cover me.

[00:44:19] And Kyle's like, cool, I'm going to slide to my left.

[00:44:21] You just keep coming across the sideline.

[00:44:22] I'm going to throw it to the boundary.

[00:44:24] You just toe tap it and we will get 18 yards and we'll press on.

[00:44:27] And of course, by Marvin Harrison, he means Harvey Merrison.

[00:44:32] Yeah, that too.

[00:44:34] Did you see this point differential stat going around?

[00:44:39] For who?

[00:44:40] So the Houston Texans, you know, point differential is minus five.

[00:44:50] And they are four and one.

[00:44:55] And the Bengals are at minus 12 and they're one and four.

[00:44:58] So.

[00:45:00] Earl is leading the league in, I believe, five major quarterback.

[00:45:06] He's top three in like five major categories, include touchdowns.

[00:45:10] And they're one and four.

[00:45:11] It's just a way to cook.

[00:45:13] It's just a way to cook.

[00:45:13] He crumbles.

[00:45:14] Well, this is where you go back.

[00:45:16] It's just sometimes.

[00:45:20] I look at it like this.

[00:45:22] When I play video games, I know it's a video game.

[00:45:24] My goal when I get the ball back, if I'm up one possession, how do I get up two?

[00:45:30] Like, how do I get up two possessions just in case something funky happens?

[00:45:35] Like, I got the ball in my hand.

[00:45:36] I can control the offense.

[00:45:37] I can control scoring opportunities.

[00:45:39] How do I go up two possessions to ensure that when the other team gets the ball back,

[00:45:45] they got to get it again no matter what?

[00:45:48] And I think in the Bengals games, they just didn't do that.

[00:45:52] No matter how great Joe Burrow was playing, they didn't get the stops that allowed them.

[00:45:57] They didn't get the stop and then a subsequent offensive drive to allow them to go up two possessions.

[00:46:02] Like, they would get stopped.

[00:46:04] And some teams are just able to do that.

[00:46:07] Houston, they are able to keep it close to where the other team just makes a mistake.

[00:46:12] I don't know why they were throwing the ball with 20 seconds left in the game tied at 20 talking about Buffalo.

[00:46:21] I know Josh Allen had a terrible day.

[00:46:24] 9 for 30.

[00:46:26] And then maybe you're thinking, like, you know what?

[00:46:28] I don't know if we can survive in overtime.

[00:46:31] He did bounce his head off the ground.

[00:46:34] Hey, I was going to bring that up, right?

[00:46:35] You know, the smell and salt.

[00:46:36] He came right back.

[00:46:37] I don't know if they knew it.

[00:46:39] They were like, listen, Josh isn't going to make it through an overtime.

[00:46:44] But we need to keep him on the field.

[00:46:46] But we got to get the hell up out of here.

[00:46:47] Can we get lucky?

[00:46:50] Very similar to how the Falcons got that pass.

[00:46:53] It was nice knowing you, Sean McDermott.

[00:46:55] It was nice knowing you.

[00:46:56] No, I think because you have Josh Allen healthy.

[00:47:04] You lost some pieces.

[00:47:06] And your division is butt.

[00:47:08] I haven't been watching TV this week.

[00:47:10] But I better hear some people calling them out about that whole banging the head off the ground.

[00:47:16] And I better hear some talk about that.

[00:47:19] Realistically, as a fan of the sport, I don't want to sound apathetic.

[00:47:24] I don't want to sound like Crash.

[00:47:26] I know I come off that way.

[00:47:29] But these guys are going to play as much football as they want.

[00:47:32] No, no.

[00:47:32] I understand that.

[00:47:33] You couldn't tell me shit at 26 about like that.

[00:47:36] I understand that.

[00:47:36] But we're talking about coming off of our conversation about Tua.

[00:47:40] If I'm talking about, no, you got to talk about it.

[00:47:43] If I'm wide awake, I'm going back on the field.

[00:47:45] No, that's fine.

[00:47:46] But I'm just saying that the outside noise needs to be on your ass.

[00:47:51] The outside noise needs to be on your ass.

[00:47:53] Outside noise is why Miami put their quarterback on IR.

[00:47:57] That ain't why.

[00:47:58] If Tua never had a concussion before, he would still be playing.

[00:48:02] No.

[00:48:03] If he had never had a concussion before, they would have handled that totally differently.

[00:48:07] I'm talking about this scene.

[00:48:08] I know.

[00:48:09] That's what I'm saying.

[00:48:10] If he had never had those other situations, he would be playing right now.

[00:48:14] But that thing, that's going to save Buffalo.

[00:48:16] Because Buffalo's like, listen, the Jets just fired their coach.

[00:48:20] Mike McDaniels is completely just in the weeds.

[00:48:24] Oh, I forgot people can't pay attention to more than one thing at a time.

[00:48:28] The Patriots, I mean, come on.

[00:48:30] Hey, Drake May starting.

[00:48:32] Drake May came into the game two weeks ago with 47 seconds left, and he got hit 17 times.

[00:48:39] And he about to get hit about 34 more times because he about to play against the Texans.

[00:48:43] He not making it through that game.

[00:48:45] I literally watched him get hit.

[00:48:47] I was like, man, you're down three possessions in the Jets game.

[00:48:51] I know we're getting off track.

[00:48:52] Yeah, the Thursday night game.

[00:48:54] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:48:54] In that Thursday night game, he came in for Jacoby Brissett.

[00:48:57] He got hit.

[00:48:58] He probably dropped back eight.

[00:49:00] I'm going to call it 10 times.

[00:49:03] He probably, I saw him getting up off of the ground five times.

[00:49:07] One of them was bad enough to where I thought he was going to be a concussion protocol.

[00:49:12] So the AFC East is so, they're so riddled with just problems that occur.

[00:49:19] Miami might still win this division.

[00:49:20] But it's all happening in that division.

[00:49:24] Right.

[00:49:25] Miami is safe.

[00:49:26] Because everybody else made a mistake.

[00:49:28] Not necessarily.

[00:49:29] Everyone else had a drastic problem.

[00:49:31] Miami lost their quarterback.

[00:49:34] The Patriots are playing their backup quarterback way too long.

[00:49:38] And they didn't draft any skill players.

[00:49:41] And now the Jets fired their coach.

[00:49:46] Yeah, Jets fired their coach.

[00:49:47] And they have a quarterback that's underperforming simultaneously with that firing.

[00:49:51] Man, I got to say real quick.

[00:49:52] Whenever the Dodgers and the Padres get together, like, they always got a classic in mind.

[00:49:58] And, oh, by the way, we have a WNBA finals set.

[00:50:02] The Minnesota Lynx and the New York Liberty, for those out there keeping track of that.

[00:50:07] But, hey, the Jaguars got their first win.

[00:50:09] You know, we saw Trevor Lawrence out here mistreating tablets, you know, yelling at his wide receivers, going back and forth.

[00:50:17] But they still got it done against Joe Flacco and the Colts.

[00:50:20] You got to cut somebody out there once in a while.

[00:50:22] Joe Flacco.

[00:50:22] Sometimes you got to pop out and show them, huh?

[00:50:25] Yeah.

[00:50:26] Aaron Rodgers, his last, like, 28 games hasn't gone over 300 yards.

[00:50:30] Joe Flacco comes off the bench.

[00:50:32] Joe Flacco can lead a crib.

[00:50:34] Joe Flacco don't need to be at the stadium.

[00:50:36] He can show up.

[00:50:38] You can call him at the end of the first quarter.

[00:50:41] He gets there by halftime and gets you 250 in the second half.

[00:50:44] Some guys just know how to play the position.

[00:50:46] Some guys just know how to really get it done when it's crunch time.

[00:50:50] You know, no regard for – because, like, he's way too old to be out there still playing.

[00:50:54] Right.

[00:50:55] Especially since he's not, like – he's not being, like, you know, sought after the way, like, some of these older quarterbacks.

[00:51:01] But, hey, back in week one, I brought up the name Tank Bigsby.

[00:51:06] You know, ETN, your job is in trouble, my friend.

[00:51:09] You know, yeah, Joe –

[00:51:10] You can't pay them both.

[00:51:11] Yeah, Joe Flacco, 33 of 44, 359 and three touchdowns.

[00:51:16] Bigsby, who I just brought up, 13 rushes, 101 yards, fire Gus Bradley.

[00:51:21] I don't know if that's you or you're speaking for lethal right there, you know.

[00:51:25] But, you know, yeah, so the Panthers, you know, got done up by DJ Moore.

[00:51:30] You know, of course, I benched them on my fantasy team because why wouldn't I do that?

[00:51:34] Not accurate.

[00:51:37] I'm going to throw –

[00:51:38] At some of those throws, DJ Moore is wide open and it's like, dog, stop trying to aim the throw.

[00:51:45] Throw the ball.

[00:51:48] Like, it's a little fool's gold.

[00:51:50] I would calm down with young Caleb.

[00:51:54] Jane Daniels, some of his deep passes, they're right on point.

[00:51:58] He got up taking hits on the run.

[00:51:59] Obviously, you can't turn the ball over.

[00:52:01] I'm interested.

[00:52:02] That's why I brought those two teams up together because the Jaguars and the Bears actually play each other in London this weekend.

[00:52:08] So, you know.

[00:52:09] That's going to be tough, man.

[00:52:10] That's going to be a tough game.

[00:52:11] That's going to be a tough game.

[00:52:11] That's going to be a tough game at home.

[00:52:12] We're going to see, you know.

[00:52:13] But, yeah, Jaden Daniels, right?

[00:52:16] Nervous fan over here, you know, going to Baltimore this weekend.

[00:52:20] But, you know, like, Jaden Daniels, I'm here to say, is going to be what everybody says that Lamar Jackson is.

[00:52:28] You know, and I don't know if I could pick Washington to beat Baltimore.

[00:52:34] But the thing that I'm enjoying about Washington right now is not just the wins, but they're beating the teams that they're supposed to beat the way that they're supposed to beat them.

[00:52:43] So that shows me that they're a little bit better of a team than I had them projected, you know, besides the record.

[00:52:51] And Dan Quinn seems like I keep seeing these videos like he's got the buy-in in the locker room.

[00:52:57] I was going to say that.

[00:52:58] I think the chemistry is legit in Washington.

[00:53:06] Yeah.

[00:53:08] Jaden Daniels only threw 25 passes.

[00:53:11] I think he ran the ball eight times.

[00:53:13] So we factor in maybe a couple of design runs and some dropbacks that turn in the run.

[00:53:18] That's my concern.

[00:53:18] Can he make it through the season?

[00:53:20] I don't think he got – he didn't get blasted.

[00:53:21] No, he didn't get beat up.

[00:53:23] He just runs a lot.

[00:53:24] Yeah, he just runs a lot.

[00:53:25] That's what I'm saying.

[00:53:26] But he only dropped back 25 times.

[00:53:28] A lot of guys get hurt in the pocket.

[00:53:30] Derek Carr got hurt in the pocket on all-out blitzes.

[00:53:32] Well, Derek Carr never met an injury he didn't want.

[00:53:35] So, you know.

[00:53:35] So as soon as he hit the run, he didn't lose out.

[00:53:38] So I just think the – I think the buy-in for Washington –

[00:53:42] but I think that comes from Dan Quinn being a head coach before,

[00:53:47] having one of the biggest collapses occur under his watch,

[00:53:51] and then having his work his way back through.

[00:53:53] Except because he was a successful coordinator in Seattle,

[00:53:56] had a very dynamic group with the Legion of Boom,

[00:53:58] gets his job as a head coach with Atlanta.

[00:54:01] They have a historic season.

[00:54:03] Then they have a historic collapse that was followed by a couple of years,

[00:54:07] like games.

[00:54:08] They were like – you know, they'd be up 16, 17 points,

[00:54:11] four or five minutes left and lose games.

[00:54:13] You know, so like I think he had that.

[00:54:14] Then he went to Dallas, you know, led the resurgence of their defense,

[00:54:19] and now he's like, okay.

[00:54:20] Right.

[00:54:20] I've been through all of this stuff.

[00:54:22] I've seen all of this.

[00:54:23] So now when he talks to Jayden, it's like, listen,

[00:54:26] I've seen all of this stuff play out.

[00:54:29] Trust me.

[00:54:29] And Cliff's been, you know, college levels, high dynamic.

[00:54:33] You know, Texas Tech.

[00:54:35] He had –

[00:54:35] Kyle Murray.

[00:54:36] Yeah, Kyle Murray in the NFL.

[00:54:38] He got fired.

[00:54:39] He got runoff.

[00:54:40] So like you have two guys that have been through something.

[00:54:43] Ibra Flew should have already been fired.

[00:54:47] But yet he still has his job.

[00:54:50] And I don't know if those guys can go to Caleb like, listen,

[00:54:53] this is all you got to do.

[00:54:54] I've been through this, blah, blah, blah, blah,

[00:54:57] because they haven't gone through it.

[00:54:59] And that's the difference.

[00:55:01] I think Jayden being a Heisman Trophy player,

[00:55:04] playing at a high level at LSU and the SEC.

[00:55:08] Like I said, I go back to his Arizona State transfer, how he was looked at there.

[00:55:13] And he's a little older.

[00:55:16] I like how they're playing.

[00:55:18] I think they're playing very, very quickly.

[00:55:20] Absolutely not.

[00:55:23] You're going to say you are, but absolutely not.

[00:55:26] I gave him a shot.

[00:55:28] I don't know how the Giants pulled it off, but they pulled it off.

[00:55:31] So, you know, Thursday night we got a big one.

[00:55:33] You know, San Francisco traveling to Seattle.

[00:55:36] You know, obviously, you know, this isn't our pick show,

[00:55:40] but since it's Thursday night, you got an early lean on that one.

[00:55:47] Can the 49ers go into Lumen Field, home of the 12th man?

[00:55:52] Shout out to Residente.

[00:55:53] I like Purdy, but I'm not sure he's a backpack guy.

[00:56:04] He's definitely a backpack guy.

[00:56:06] You don't remember those two playoff games last year?

[00:56:09] I think he's a we're all in this together guy.

[00:56:14] Well, I mean, he's single-handedly.

[00:56:15] I'm going to hold it down.

[00:56:17] I'm going to do my part.

[00:56:17] You do your part.

[00:56:19] But when it's like when the blocking isn't great,

[00:56:24] and I get no quarterback is good when the blocking is good.

[00:56:26] Well, I mean, he got his arm hit on that last pass, you know.

[00:56:29] Or if the offense isn't flowing, it's just like I don't see him.

[00:56:35] He's not quite Aaron Rodgers where he basically Aaron Rodgers just says,

[00:56:38] you know what?

[00:56:39] I'm not hurting myself.

[00:56:41] I'm going to throw this ball away.

[00:56:42] I'm not running for eight yards.

[00:56:46] I don't know.

[00:56:47] I just think the pending contract negotiation that's going to happen

[00:56:54] inevitably at the end of this year and the money and the pressure,

[00:56:58] because he knows if he gets $55 million, because Zach just got $60 million,

[00:57:03] I don't think he's going to get that.

[00:57:04] He's probably going to get over $50 million.

[00:57:06] You're not going to be able to pay all these guys.

[00:57:10] Guys are going to leave.

[00:57:11] And it's like I don't know if we're seeing this is what it's going to look

[00:57:15] like when these guys are gone.

[00:57:18] I want to lean that way.

[00:57:20] I'm taking the Niners.

[00:57:22] I've got no questions about it just because they need it.

[00:57:25] I'll take Seattle just because it's at home.

[00:57:27] When you've got two teams that need a game, I'm going to take the better team.

[00:57:32] I go with the better team because a lot of times what happens is the worst team

[00:57:37] needs the game more than the better team,

[00:57:39] and that's where your upset comes from because they're playing with their backs

[00:57:42] against the wall.

[00:57:43] But the 49ers back are against the wall too, and they've been there.

[00:57:47] They've done that.

[00:57:48] And Seattle's still relying on Geno Smith.

[00:57:50] So I'm going with the 49ers.

[00:57:53] Who leads the league in pass yards?

[00:57:55] Very cool.

[00:57:56] It's a cool story.

[00:57:57] Who lost their last two games?

[00:58:00] A lot of guys.

[00:58:01] You know, Joe Burrow.

[00:58:02] Anyway, speaking of losing games, I told y'all not to snooze on last Saturday.

[00:58:09] Did I not say don't snooze?

[00:58:11] We tried.

[00:58:13] Alabama, come to the carpet.

[00:58:15] Enjoy this lashing.

[00:58:17] Who the hell do you think you are that you can run into Nashville and think that you're

[00:58:23] going to escape with a win just because you got a big-ass A on your field,

[00:58:27] just because you got numbers on the side of your helmet?

[00:58:31] Do you not know who Diego Pavia is?

[00:58:34] Did you not see him go into Auburn, into Jordan-Hare last year,

[00:58:38] walk out with a 21-point win?

[00:58:40] You thought you were just going to come into Nashville because you beat Georgia?

[00:58:45] Now, look, obviously a little bit of that is tongue-in-cheek, right?

[00:58:49] So, look, Vanderbilt is not your brother's Vanderbilt.

[00:58:56] You know, they coming into the season with a win over Virginia Tech.

[00:58:59] They took Missouri to overtime, and we just – well, then again,

[00:59:02] we just saw what happened to Missouri the other day.

[00:59:04] But, you know, Alabama ran into some of the things that I was talking about earlier this season

[00:59:10] when I said they weren't going to make the playoff.

[00:59:12] That secondary is atrocious.

[00:59:15] Malachi Moore showed more fight as time was running out of the game

[00:59:20] than the secondary did the whole rest of the game.

[00:59:23] Yeah, shout-out to Malachi Moore for standing on his outbursts

[00:59:28] and apologizing, standing in front of the media.

[00:59:30] Cole still looked like shit.

[00:59:32] He handled the media conversation better than most of these NFL quarterbacks do

[00:59:35] when they get up to the podium and start stumbling and rumbling over their words.

[00:59:39] So, shout-out to him for owning up and accountability.

[00:59:41] But, yeah, I don't – at some point, as the favorite, even on the road,

[00:59:52] even if the other team is hot, just go back to the advantage that you have.

[00:59:58] There's no team outside of – I'm going to give you like Georgia, Texas,

[01:00:06] maybe a Wisconsin, maybe BYU, Utah, one of these teams.

[01:00:12] There's not many defensive lines that can match up with an Alabama offensive line at all.

[01:00:22] Just assert your dominance by running the ball.

[01:00:27] Just running – you've got a running quarterback who's probably 6'4", 220,

[01:00:31] been in a system – been at college for a while, been in a system this year, successful.

[01:00:36] You have dynamic wide receivers.

[01:00:38] So, it has – the pass has to be respected.

[01:00:41] And then you just dominate with the run.

[01:00:45] You shouldn't be throwing passes trying to get back in games when you are an Alabama,

[01:00:50] you know, offensive line.

[01:00:51] I just feel like sometimes you get away from it.

[01:00:54] You get away from it too early.

[01:00:56] Just literally, first three plays, we're going half-back dive.

[01:01:01] I'm bringing everybody downhill.

[01:01:03] I'm bringing in extra tight ends.

[01:01:04] I'm hitting everybody who just took their chemistry test on Friday.

[01:01:09] And now, like, listen, I'm not trying to go to the league.

[01:01:11] I'm not dealing with these big-ass behemoths.

[01:01:13] And you just slowly beat them down.

[01:01:15] But if you throw them and they get set passes for interceptions,

[01:01:18] you have bad fumbles, you have, you know, out-of-position corners,

[01:01:22] because anything can happen.

[01:01:24] But you're going to – you're going to nine times out of ten,

[01:01:30] if you are the better-ranked team, if you dominate the line of scrimmage,

[01:01:36] there's only so many big plays the other team is going to get off.

[01:01:40] But if you got the ball for six- and seven-minute drives,

[01:01:43] beating the hell out of them, you take the air out of the stadium.

[01:01:47] And just join me real quick, you know, I'm going to say a quick prayer for Coptober.

[01:01:52] You know, say a Coptober is through.

[01:01:54] You know, Ole Miss came through with the 27-3 win.

[01:01:57] And you get Bama coming off of that loss?

[01:02:01] Coptober's done.

[01:02:02] I'm sorry.

[01:02:02] But, you know, what got me about this game is because when you see an upset normally,

[01:02:07] you know, there's turnovers involved.

[01:02:09] You know, there's just like a whole lot of bad luck, it seems, for the favorite.

[01:02:14] You know, and I know Bama had the unfortunate pop-up pick six that Vanderbilt took to the house.

[01:02:20] But the thing that stood out to me about this game more than anything,

[01:02:25] Vanderbilt had the ball for 42 minutes and eight seconds.

[01:02:30] I don't know how that's possible going back to what you just said.

[01:02:34] If you don't run the ball offensively, you can't shoot a clock.

[01:02:37] No, but Bama shouldn't be able to run the ball good enough to hold the ball that long.

[01:02:42] Well, that's the thing.

[01:02:44] You – when you are a team on the field, you dictate the mood to the other team,

[01:02:52] good, bad, or indifferent.

[01:02:53] So if you're beating them and punching them in the mouth, that resonates through the entire team,

[01:03:00] into the fans, into administration that's watching.

[01:03:04] But how much –

[01:03:05] If you never assert that piece and they're feeling themselves and the crowd never gets out of the game

[01:03:11] and got – then you start to press.

[01:03:14] You start doing like we talked with Josh Allen.

[01:03:16] Josh Allen's having a terrible game against Houston.

[01:03:21] You know in that situation, run the ball three times, make Houston use their timeouts,

[01:03:27] punt the ball deep.

[01:03:28] They catch the punt with four seconds left.

[01:03:30] You go into overtime and you regroup.

[01:03:32] But you know what was happening on the field.

[01:03:35] Houston was dictating to Buffalo, this is where the ferocity is.

[01:03:39] This is where the intensity is.

[01:03:40] We're bringing it.

[01:03:41] You're not.

[01:03:42] When you run the ball effectively, you dictate to the other team,

[01:03:45] we are the intensity in this situation.

[01:03:49] Vanderbilt.

[01:03:49] Vanderbilt took that opportunity.

[01:03:50] Like, yo, we are 42 minutes out of a 60-minute football game.

[01:03:57] Like, that's a certain dominance.

[01:04:00] Yeah.

[01:04:00] Yeah.

[01:04:01] Yeah.

[01:04:01] That's like a little more than 17 minutes for Bama, by the way.

[01:04:05] You know, maybe Georgia laid something out there.

[01:04:09] And they still got 35 points in that 17 minutes.

[01:04:11] Imagine if you thought in the first half –

[01:04:14] Oh, Tatis –

[01:04:15] Go to the warning track.

[01:04:17] We're going to get –

[01:04:18] We're going to get a bunch of points because we're just flat out better

[01:04:21] and then let's dominate them.

[01:04:23] Right.

[01:04:23] Don't give them an opportunity to think that they can win.

[01:04:26] So, then you thought it was over, right?

[01:04:29] But if you listen to Sports Reports is ordered on Friday night,

[01:04:33] somebody sat in this here chair in front of this Alex English jersey,

[01:04:38] and they said, yo, beware, Tennessee.

[01:04:42] You're going down to Vietnam.

[01:04:45] Saturday night football, Arkansas is just one of those weird teams.

[01:04:50] You know, ask Texas, ask LSU.

[01:04:52] I even said that on Friday.

[01:04:53] You know, teams go to Arkansas, especially Arkansas teams that you should handle,

[01:05:01] and then you fuck up.

[01:05:02] So, Nico, right?

[01:05:03] Nico, we always crowning these guys.

[01:05:06] You know, week two, when Nico was beating up on Chattanooga and these other teams,

[01:05:11] we were saying, oh, this guy is a Heisman candidate.

[01:05:14] Oh, Nico is the truth.

[01:05:16] Nico is going to be the next Patrick Mahomes.

[01:05:18] People were saying all this crazy stuff.

[01:05:20] Nico went down to Vietnam and went 17-29, 158 yards and no touchdowns.

[01:05:27] And Mr. Logical, real quick, did you see how that game ended?

[01:05:31] Unfortunately, I was out doing, you know, family stuff.

[01:05:35] It was fourth and one, you know, as time was expiring from about the 30.

[01:05:40] Young Nico getting chased around ran out of bounds.

[01:05:45] So he never even got the throw off.

[01:05:48] You know, so that's – I'm going to give him a pass for that.

[01:05:51] You know, he's a first-year starter and all that.

[01:05:53] Everybody knows what out of bounds is.

[01:05:55] Right, but this is what I'm saying.

[01:05:56] But this is what I'm saying, like, we got to stop before we start trying to crown these people.

[01:06:01] You know, like, this is Jackson Arnold all over again potentially.

[01:06:04] I don't want to go that far, but I'm just saying it could be.

[01:06:07] And then when you thought it was over, you blinked, you looked over in Minneapolis,

[01:06:13] and you said, USC is about to lose to Minnesota?

[01:06:19] Oh, yeah, 2-5 told you that one too.

[01:06:22] You know, because, you know, USC is still the soft team that they've been the last five years.

[01:06:31] The problem is, is y'all see SEC on somebody's jersey, and you think that automatically makes them good.

[01:06:40] LSU is not a good football team.

[01:06:42] USC is still riding the wave from beating LSU.

[01:06:46] Beating LSU, yeah.

[01:06:47] You know, and then they went into Michigan, and what happened?

[01:06:50] You know, you know, Kalel Mullins said, get the hell off me Marshawn Lynch style.

[01:06:57] You know, got into the end zone, beat USC, and then Darius Taylor from Minnesota ran 444 against them.

[01:07:04] Good luck, USC.

[01:07:05] Penn State coming in this weekend.

[01:07:07] So then Michigan, our guy, Alex Orgy.

[01:07:10] Ooh, did he crack 86?

[01:07:11] He got benched.

[01:07:14] I saw that he got benched for a dude that went to high school with Chris Olave.

[01:07:18] Yeah, Jack Tuttle, you know.

[01:07:20] Yep, and, you know, and what did I say on Friday?

[01:07:23] I said, give me Washington.

[01:07:26] You know, because Washington was one of those teams that top 20 offense and defense in the nation, you know.

[01:07:35] And Michigan reminds me a lot of, and I mean, not one for one, but they remind me a lot of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the fact that you have talent, but every team you play is going to be in the game because of your style of play.

[01:07:50] You know, so, you know.

[01:07:51] How would this guy start in quarterback?

[01:07:54] I know you watch him at practice.

[01:07:56] I think Michigan should still play Orgy.

[01:07:59] But if he can't throw.

[01:08:00] I mean, look.

[01:08:01] Like, look.

[01:08:02] We're not running the Navy offense over here.

[01:08:06] Right now, Michigan doesn't have an NIL program.

[01:08:10] So it's either Orgy, Tuttle, or Davis Moore.

[01:08:13] They have a scouting department.

[01:08:15] No, they do.

[01:08:16] They do.

[01:08:17] But what I'm saying is, like, Orgy is still young.

[01:08:19] How do you have a guy out there who can't throw the ball?

[01:08:22] Orgy is still young.

[01:08:24] So you let him take his lumps.

[01:08:26] Orgy is young.

[01:08:27] You're not winning the national title.

[01:08:29] Two weeks ago.

[01:08:30] You're not winning the national title.

[01:08:32] You're probably not going to win the Big Ten.

[01:08:34] You know, just let the season play out.

[01:08:36] See if he improves.

[01:08:37] And then next year, you evaluate and bring somebody else in.

[01:08:41] How many pass plays did they call for him?

[01:08:42] I think he was, like, 10 for 18 for 86 yards a couple weeks ago.

[01:08:46] Orgy is terrible.

[01:08:47] He is terrible.

[01:08:48] But I think all three of them are terrible.

[01:08:51] That's the problem.

[01:08:52] All three quarterbacks are terrible.

[01:08:53] Who's the one that brings something dynamic to the table?

[01:08:56] Who's the least bad?

[01:08:58] Yeah.

[01:08:58] Like, who's the one that brings something dynamic to the table?

[01:09:01] Like, what does David...

[01:09:02] You're going to go 12 for 22 for 97 yards.

[01:09:04] But you might be able to break a 76-yard test.

[01:09:07] What does Davis Warren do?

[01:09:09] What does Davis Warren do that warrants you to play him?

[01:09:13] What does Jack Tuttle do that warrants you to play him?

[01:09:17] Or you can at least make a defender miss and gain some yards.

[01:09:20] Yeah.

[01:09:21] But if I'm just...

[01:09:22] I'll put eight guys in the box.

[01:09:24] And if he can't...

[01:09:26] He can't beat the man-to-man coverage with a throw, then it's...

[01:09:29] Hey, you'll play Sparty eventually.

[01:09:30] You know?

[01:09:31] It'll get right.

[01:09:32] You'll play Sparty eventually.

[01:09:34] You know?

[01:09:34] And then I guess Missouri were the frauds that I didn't think they were.

[01:09:37] That was the one I did get wrong.

[01:09:39] Because I thought they were going to beat Texas A&M.

[01:09:42] But they got Molly Watt.

[01:09:44] They had to watch the video game.

[01:09:45] Yeah.

[01:09:45] They got Molly Watt.

[01:09:46] Now, they're...

[01:09:47] They're playing into the hotel room?

[01:09:49] No.

[01:09:50] So, actually, let's talk about that for a second.

[01:09:52] Let's talk about that for a second.

[01:09:53] I like that.

[01:09:54] That was...

[01:09:54] No.

[01:09:55] No.

[01:09:55] You can't like it no more.

[01:09:57] You can't like it no more.

[01:09:58] Because now we found out that Missouri's coach did that.

[01:10:04] Because he was trying to...

[01:10:05] He was trying to motivate his receiver.

[01:10:08] So, it was cool because we thought...

[01:10:11] We thought Willie...

[01:10:12] The cornerback did it.

[01:10:13] Yeah.

[01:10:13] We thought he did it.

[01:10:14] And I was like, swag of the year award right there.

[01:10:17] Because he wore it to the game.

[01:10:19] Yeah.

[01:10:19] He wore it in pregame.

[01:10:20] Yeah.

[01:10:21] But we found out that the coach did it.

[01:10:23] You know?

[01:10:23] That's why a clip of Ocho Cinco sent the Pittsburgh secondary some Pepto Bismol.

[01:10:30] Yeah.

[01:10:30] Before the game.

[01:10:30] He said, you're going to be sick to your stomach all game.

[01:10:32] Yeah.

[01:10:33] And, you know, like, you know, for random notes, you know, real quick before we get on

[01:10:37] to this NBA Western Conference, you know...

[01:10:40] Yeah.

[01:10:40] How about this, Mr. Logical?

[01:10:43] The freaking Wahoos are 4-1.

[01:10:50] Let's talk about Army and Navy being 5-0.

[01:10:53] We're going to talk about that.

[01:10:54] Let me get through my notes.

[01:10:55] We're going to talk about it.

[01:10:57] We're going to talk about it.

[01:10:59] But, Virginia, I'm here to warn you.

[01:11:01] It's over.

[01:11:02] You know what I'm saying?

[01:11:03] You got Louisville.

[01:11:04] You got at Clemson.

[01:11:06] You know?

[01:11:06] So, chomp both of those up.

[01:11:08] UNC at Pitt, at Notre Dame.

[01:11:11] SMU, Vitek.

[01:11:12] They're 4-1 right now.

[01:11:13] They might not make a bowl.

[01:11:15] 11-1.

[01:11:18] You know...

[01:11:18] They'll go 11-1 just to prove it's wrong.

[01:11:21] Army and Navy, both 5-0, right?

[01:11:24] You know, like, come on now.

[01:11:25] Give it up for the troops.

[01:11:26] Navy looked good.

[01:11:28] And one of the commentators was talking about how normally when they play another service academy,

[01:11:36] the ability to defend the run is a little higher because that's the style that they play.

[01:11:43] Right.

[01:11:43] So, they practice against it all the time.

[01:11:45] That's the style that they play.

[01:11:47] And Navy, this quarterback, Horvath, I mean, they kept calling him Stalbath, like Roger Stalbath, because he wanted to hide in the Navy.

[01:11:56] He looked...

[01:11:57] He looked so comfortable in what they were doing, but then they said that's what he ran in high school.

[01:12:02] Brian Newberry, the new head coach.

[01:12:04] And you know what's special about Army and Navy?

[01:12:06] 46 points.

[01:12:08] What's special about Army and Navy is that...

[01:12:12] No, not Horvath.

[01:12:13] Horvath.

[01:12:14] Horvath.

[01:12:15] With a B.

[01:12:15] With a B.

[01:12:16] I heard Horvath, too.

[01:12:18] I was like, please...

[01:12:19] This ain't Amsterdam.

[01:12:21] This is Sports Reports' Order.

[01:12:22] But there is a possibility, because both teams play Notre Dame this year.

[01:12:27] So, there's a possibility that they can meet each other, you know, at 10-1, you know, last game of the season,

[01:12:35] and then meet the next week for the AAC Championship.

[01:12:40] In the Army-Navy game.

[01:12:41] Yeah.

[01:12:41] Well, they play each other in Army-Navy, but then they can play each other...

[01:12:45] They play the championship game first.

[01:12:46] Yeah, the championship game first.

[01:12:47] Or...

[01:12:48] And then Army-Navy.

[01:12:49] So, yeah.

[01:12:50] So, it could be like, if they're...

[01:12:51] Say, hypothetically, they're both undefeated in the championship game.

[01:12:55] Why don't we commit the playoffs?

[01:12:57] They could make the playoffs off of that championship victory.

[01:13:02] Right.

[01:13:02] And then the following week...

[01:13:05] Lose to the other team.

[01:13:06] Yeah.

[01:13:07] And it's like...

[01:13:08] Yeah.

[01:13:09] So, I'm here for all of that.

[01:13:10] I'm here for all of that.

[01:13:11] If that's the case, put them both in.

[01:13:13] And Mr. Logical's...

[01:13:14] I just want to say something different.

[01:13:15] Mr. Logical's most hated coach,

[01:13:17] Pat Narduzzi, you know, 5-0, the Panthers for the first time since 1991.

[01:13:23] I guess all that bitchin' and whiny did also, like NIL was paying off.

[01:13:28] UNLV, you know, they took their first loss.

[01:13:31] So, when they played Boise this year, and Dallas Mike will have you know that Boise...

[01:13:36] It's more math.

[01:13:38] Dallas Mike will have you know...

[01:13:41] VVH Victor Alphantanga Hotel.

[01:13:43] Dallas Mike will have you know that the Boise State Broncos are in bed with Las Vegas.

[01:13:48] Because Ashton Gentry came out 13 rushes, 186 yards in the first half against Utah State.

[01:13:55] Didn't play in the second half.

[01:13:57] The over-under for his yardage was 188 and a half.

[01:14:02] Ooh, talk about a bad beat.

[01:14:04] You know...

[01:14:05] So rigged.

[01:14:06] You know, Texas Tech.

[01:14:07] I brought up Texas Tech.

[01:14:08] I picked them to beat Arizona.

[01:14:09] They went out and beat Arizona.

[01:14:11] So they gone from giving up 51 points in week one to Abilene Christian and losing to Washington State.

[01:14:18] And now they're undefeated in the Big 12.

[01:14:21] So shout out to Texas Tech for overcoming the perseverance and all that.

[01:14:25] Miami out here getting saved by the refs again.

[01:14:28] You know, Berkeley.

[01:14:30] The woke had Coke on the ropes.

[01:14:31] They had Michael Irvin doggy style.

[01:14:33] And before you went to bed, there was a targeting that wasn't called.

[01:14:40] There was an illegal man downfield or the touchdown that wasn't called.

[01:14:44] So the Hurricanes are still undefeated.

[01:14:47] You know...

[01:14:48] He didn't stop.

[01:14:50] He didn't stop.

[01:14:51] I raised my son and I don't get on my hands and knees to watch his games.

[01:14:57] You know, saying like that man was out there looking like Havana ginger out there.

[01:15:01] You know, but...

[01:15:04] You know, but...

[01:15:06] That's old school for you.

[01:15:08] Go ahead and Google it.

[01:15:09] So you know...

[01:15:10] No, don't Google it, y'all.

[01:15:11] You know, but...

[01:15:12] Don't Google it on the laptop.

[01:15:13] Not the school laptop.

[01:15:14] Don't get phone.

[01:15:15] But you know, we were talking about Trent Dilfer last week.

[01:15:17] I was talking about Trent Dilfer.

[01:15:19] Way to back it up by giving up 70 points to Tulane.

[01:15:23] You know, you'll appreciate this one.

[01:15:25] This is the logical.

[01:15:26] San Jose State head coach.

[01:15:28] Ken Niamata Alu.

[01:15:30] I think I said that right.

[01:15:32] Formerly of Navy.

[01:15:33] You know, got San Jose State at 4-1.

[01:15:36] So congrats out there.

[01:15:38] It's not just a Boise and UNLV match.

[01:15:40] Michigan is the new Iowa.

[01:15:43] Houston.

[01:15:43] Big props.

[01:15:45] You know, first Big 12 win.

[01:15:47] You came into...

[01:15:47] Your first two Big 12 games.

[01:15:49] No points.

[01:15:50] You said, fuck it.

[01:15:51] We putting up 30 on TCU.

[01:15:52] And we gonna get a win.

[01:15:54] You know...

[01:15:57] Oli Gordon.

[01:15:58] You know, we talked about him.

[01:16:00] Dope Campbell Award winner.

[01:16:01] 13 rushes for 50 yards.

[01:16:03] You know, so his season total through six games now is 384 yards.

[01:16:09] So...

[01:16:09] Oli on the state.

[01:16:10] Yep.

[01:16:10] So ESPN.

[01:16:12] Kirk Morrison made the statement.

[01:16:13] I wanted to get your thoughts on this.

[01:16:15] You know, he kind of went Zion Williamson with it.

[01:16:17] Where Oli looked like maybe he banged up his ankle.

[01:16:22] And Morrison said, hey, you know what?

[01:16:24] That should be the last snap he plays for Oklahoma State this season.

[01:16:26] What'd you think about that?

[01:16:29] Seems like a stretch to get rid of a guy.

[01:16:33] I don't know if he was projected to be an early round draft pick.

[01:16:37] First and second round.

[01:16:38] Third round.

[01:16:38] I don't know if the...

[01:16:40] Whatever situation that created DUI is impacting him.

[01:16:43] Because to go from a college award winner one year.

[01:16:47] Get a year older.

[01:16:48] A year bigger.

[01:16:49] A year stronger.

[01:16:50] A year more knowledgeable in your system.

[01:16:52] And to not come back and replicate those numbers.

[01:16:54] That's a telltale sign to me.

[01:16:57] Most of these as you get older.

[01:16:59] We talk about quarterbacks that are 23, 24, 25.

[01:17:03] And how they're dominating these young defenses.

[01:17:05] It's like you should be doing the same thing.

[01:17:07] So it might be something more underlined with that situation.

[01:17:10] I definitely don't think it should be his last snap.

[01:17:12] I mean, it's college football.

[01:17:14] Well, you remember we talked about Alan Bowman.

[01:17:16] And how you got a 1,700-yard rusher.

[01:17:19] And you're out here with 15 touchdowns and 14 interceptions.

[01:17:22] So he's been benched a few times already this year as well.

[01:17:25] So, like, Oklahoma State just not having a good year.

[01:17:28] Maybe it's time to move on from Mike Gundy finally.

[01:17:31] Yeah, you might need a new voice.

[01:17:32] You might need a new voice.

[01:17:33] I'm 40.

[01:17:34] I'm a man.

[01:17:35] It was like 10 years ago.

[01:17:36] No.

[01:17:37] He's actually 57 right now.

[01:17:40] Yeah.

[01:17:40] Jesus.

[01:17:41] About that.

[01:17:42] So, you know, let's talk some NBA, right?

[01:17:45] You know, the other night we talked about the Eastern Conference.

[01:17:48] You know, not much changing over there.

[01:17:49] I know Philly and New York made their moves, but it's still all about the Celtics over there for the time being.

[01:17:54] So let's talk about the West for a second.

[01:17:57] Is there a team in the West that stands out to you that you're looking forward to see this year?

[01:18:04] OKC.

[01:18:05] OK.

[01:18:05] Tell me more.

[01:18:06] I like OKC.

[01:18:08] They were young.

[01:18:08] They added some muscle and Isaiah Hardenstein in the middle.

[01:18:12] I think check getting a year older.

[01:18:14] I think the way they play is very free flowing.

[01:18:17] I like the fact that they go 10, 11 guys deep on some nights, even in the playoffs where teams tend to tighten their rotation.

[01:18:25] They still were running out 9, 10, 11 guys.

[01:18:28] They were all effective.

[01:18:31] I think a lot of the other teams in the West got older and it lost players.

[01:18:37] I think the Lakers hiring J.J. Redick makes them like a pseudo rebuild.

[01:18:43] I think the Clippers letting Paul George go and keeping Kawhi just to open that new stadium.

[01:18:49] Same ideology, semi-rebuild.

[01:18:51] Into it, dome.

[01:18:52] Yeah.

[01:18:53] And apparently like it's supposed to have all like the cutting edge interactive aspects.

[01:18:58] Well, hopefully it got a bunch of PlayStations in there because that might be more entertaining than watching the actual team.

[01:19:02] You know what?

[01:19:03] Keep it on.

[01:19:03] It might be.

[01:19:04] I mean, it's probably Xboxes because it's Steve Ballmer.

[01:19:07] But I'm at maybe it's probably going to be a section where, hey, guess what we did?

[01:19:12] We put, you know, 500 Xboxes in this section so you can play, you know, 2K while you watch the game.

[01:19:19] Whatever they got to do to get people in that building, they have to do it because the Lakers have been king of California.

[01:19:25] Like John Morant coming back.

[01:19:26] Hopefully they can work Zach Eadie into the mix.

[01:19:30] Hey, they're working on the three-point shot as we speak.

[01:19:33] I like Houston's youth.

[01:19:36] New Orleans.

[01:19:38] I just feel like they just never really addressed their chemistry issues or if they have them.

[01:19:42] I don't know why they have them.

[01:19:47] I mean, like I like obviously Minnesota.

[01:19:50] Like I said, I'm not sure about the move.

[01:19:52] I don't know if Julius Randle and Ant work together unless they can get somebody else to kind of –

[01:19:58] Julius, you get me Kat's points that we're taking away.

[01:20:01] And Nas, you get some more of the points and then you guys can combine and get the rebound.

[01:20:07] So obviously Dallas is a good look, but I don't think Dallas –

[01:20:11] That's what I'm thinking about is Dallas because I don't think they have enough to keep running

[01:20:16] because you can't just keep riding Lucas' back like that.

[01:20:18] Well, I don't know what you get from Klay at this point.

[01:20:25] You know, like maybe you get, you know, the early season benefit from it.

[01:20:30] You know, he's motivated again.

[01:20:32] Fresh scene.

[01:20:32] Golden State, think they could just get rid of me.

[01:20:34] So maybe you come out the first 30, 40 games.

[01:20:37] But I'm sorry.

[01:20:38] Another year older, those legs start getting tired.

[01:20:42] Yeah, but these guys are – like they're not old like we're old.

[01:20:46] Like they're older.

[01:20:48] They're still – like he's still a professional.

[01:20:50] They're older.

[01:20:51] You're telling Klay to potentially go out here –

[01:20:54] You're telling Klay potentially go guard SGA or somebody?

[01:20:59] No.

[01:20:59] Why would you do that?

[01:21:00] Because who else going to guard him?

[01:21:02] One of these young-ass dudes off the bench that are –

[01:21:05] Yeah.

[01:21:07] The dudes don't play the whole game.

[01:21:09] If you can't rent a –

[01:21:11] Whole guard stuff, huh?

[01:21:13] If you can't rent a rental car without like paying an extra fee

[01:21:18] because you're under 25, then you're going to be guarding –

[01:21:20] Yes, he is.

[01:21:22] His legs are older than me.

[01:21:25] Like you're going to be guarding these guys who score and run the ball.

[01:21:30] You could probably have Klay on a guy like Azor Thompson or something like that.

[01:21:35] Like he's not going to be guarding one of these guys that dribble the hell out of the ball.

[01:21:38] Like that's what you – you got to bring in a defender.

[01:21:41] Right.

[01:21:41] But Dallas' defense is – I know we focus on Luka,

[01:21:44] but their defense is the reason why they went on the run that they went on

[01:21:48] when they picked up P.J. Washington, Daniel Gafford.

[01:21:51] Problem is, is like Klay I feel at this stage of his career takes away –

[01:21:56] It wasn't wing defenders.

[01:21:58] That was just – let's funnel everybody to lie.

[01:22:00] No, it was just defensive players.

[01:22:01] Right.

[01:22:02] You know what I mean?

[01:22:02] But now – but the difference is with Klay on the floor now,

[01:22:06] you know, saying before you already had to mask Kyrie to some degree.

[01:22:11] You know, Luka was making an effort on defense at times

[01:22:14] even though he still wasn't very good.

[01:22:16] But now you're adding another negative defender.

[01:22:19] Oh, I've never – I don't think that they're going to be top-tier defensively.

[01:22:23] I just don't think that Klay's defensive liabilities, for lack of a better word,

[01:22:28] is going to be like the thing that really impacts –

[01:22:31] because I don't think you're going to have him on the floor

[01:22:34] in highly defensive expectations and situations on the floor anyway.

[01:22:40] Like you're going to go offense for defense in the end of the game

[01:22:44] in those last couple of minutes, he's going to be the guy that comes off

[01:22:48] and they're going to put somebody else in for defense.

[01:22:50] Because if you think about it, all you have to defend in the NBA right now

[01:22:54] realistically is the three-point line and then the three-point line on this side

[01:23:01] and then the three-point line on the corner and the three-point line on top of the key.

[01:23:04] See, that's why I'm not –

[01:23:06] Kyrie's getting to the bucket.

[01:23:07] Kyrie's getting to the bucket.

[01:23:09] Luka's shooting mid-range.

[01:23:10] Josh's shooting mid-range.

[01:23:12] Kawhi's shooting mid-range.

[01:23:14] DeMar is still in the East.

[01:23:17] Yeah, we'll get to that, to him.

[01:23:19] Like I think that that's why I'm not as high on Memphis as everybody else is

[01:23:24] because I know it's easy to look back and say, well, hey, two years ago,

[01:23:28] last time Jai was healthy, they were the two seed.

[01:23:32] But they're also relying on injured dudes like Jaron Jackson.

[01:23:36] You know, they don't have the spacing, I feel.

[01:23:40] You know, so they need superhuman efforts from Jai.

[01:23:45] Jai can't.

[01:23:46] You can't hit the floor this year, player.

[01:23:49] Yeah.

[01:23:49] Let the block go.

[01:23:51] Yeah.

[01:23:52] Shoot the floater.

[01:23:53] Don't go for the dunk.

[01:23:55] Stop hitting the floor.

[01:23:57] You weigh 178.

[01:24:00] If that.

[01:24:01] Well, like, you know, as I think about Sacramento, you brought up DeMar DeRozan.

[01:24:09] So Sacramento is the definition, to me, they're the definition of two steps forward,

[01:24:13] one step back.

[01:24:14] You know, they went out and got DeMar DeRozan.

[01:24:16] So now they have the number one and number two clutch players in the league, you know,

[01:24:21] from last season, DeMar DeRozan and De'Aaron Fox, you know, you know, but.

[01:24:27] You know, you still.

[01:24:30] There's still a lot to be desired on the defensive end, and I think DeRozan just gets in the way,

[01:24:36] you know, as De'Aaron is trying to create, facilitate, as Malik Monk is trying to get loose.

[01:24:43] DeMar is just there in the way, restricting the flow that in a way that it wasn't before.

[01:24:49] It's a bonus.

[01:24:50] It's still not necessarily a big man in the sense of protecting.

[01:24:56] I don't think there's that many teams that are going to be, that are going to rest their

[01:25:00] hat on defense anyway.

[01:25:02] I think a lot of teams that rest their hat on individual defensive mismatches like

[01:25:08] Chet Holmgren and Oklahoma City just being seven foot two.

[01:25:12] Obviously, San Antonio didn't make many moves out of Chris Paul, but like having Wimby as

[01:25:17] a guy that you can just funnel guys to.

[01:25:19] Same thing with Dallas.

[01:25:20] I think a lot of teams.

[01:25:21] You're being disrespectful now.

[01:25:21] You're being disrespectful.

[01:25:23] Why are you acting like the Spurs didn't go get world champion Harrison Barnes?

[01:25:30] As a coach?

[01:25:33] Oh, are they going to play?

[01:25:34] Oh, that's cute.

[01:25:36] It's like when I let the managers play in those high school videos.

[01:25:39] Yeah.

[01:25:40] Um, yeah.

[01:25:41] So like once again, that's a bad combination of old ass dudes and young ass players, but

[01:25:46] those teams, their identity is basically funnel the guy with the ball to our big men that are

[01:25:53] defending a rim.

[01:25:54] And I think that's the essentially like the concept of both these defensive teams.

[01:25:59] Not a lot of guys who sit in the chair and just really defend top of the key.

[01:26:04] When it's Steph, you maybe you'll have a guy to chase steps around.

[01:26:08] That's all he's going to do.

[01:26:09] It's going to be five on four offensively because the guy chasing stuff around is going

[01:26:13] to save all of his energy.

[01:26:14] So when he goes back to the other end, I got to chase stuff around.

[01:26:17] I don't know if it is going to look the same without clay.

[01:26:20] But I mean, if you're getting clay 10 to 12 shots a gate from the corner of a couple of

[01:26:26] dribbles, I imagine you can get somebody else to fill in that role.

[01:26:29] All right.

[01:26:30] So, hey, I'm looking for, I'm looking for a young team.

[01:26:32] I'm looking for another young superstar to step up and really make their mark.

[01:26:36] SGA was a guy that a lot of people felt should have been MVP last year.

[01:26:40] Um, I'm looking for another guy that could potentially do that.

[01:26:43] I got another superstar because the rest of the superstars are my age.

[01:26:47] I got gray in my beard.

[01:26:48] So here's a question.

[01:26:50] I just pulled up a random sports book just now.

[01:26:52] Okay.

[01:26:54] What do you think?

[01:26:55] Cause you know, I like to ask you these questions.

[01:26:57] What do you think they have the Lakers over under set as?

[01:27:01] Over under for wins?

[01:27:02] Yeah.

[01:27:03] I saw something.

[01:27:05] I don't want to look at it now, but I saw something.

[01:27:08] I thought that number was too high.

[01:27:12] Uh, I think what I saw had them at like 46 and 36 or something.

[01:27:18] So what I'm looking at right now has them at 43 and a half.

[01:27:22] I would.

[01:27:31] The problem is I think the guy they need to play 70 games to get them.

[01:27:38] Those 43 wins is going to be 40 years old.

[01:27:41] That's the problem.

[01:27:42] He's going to have to take some days off.

[01:27:44] It's just, there's no way to play the way he plays.

[01:27:47] Even when he's kind of like letting guys do their thing.

[01:27:52] If it's 93 to 92 in the last five or six minutes, he's on the ball.

[01:27:57] Every possession.

[01:27:58] He's probably going to wrap up, wrap up defensively every possession.

[01:28:01] So what LeBron has to do for the Lakers, he's going to have to do for 80% of the season.

[01:28:09] It just doesn't seem likely that they can sit him for 12 games.

[01:28:14] Cause like I said, it's always best case scenario.

[01:28:17] He plays 68 games.

[01:28:18] That gives you 14 games off.

[01:28:20] You got a six month season.

[01:28:21] He gets one, one, one to two games off a month.

[01:28:25] Okay.

[01:28:27] Best case scenario.

[01:28:28] So, well, I mean, if you get him 70 games, it's like the best case scenario you can get.

[01:28:34] But in those 70, if he's on the floor and is close, he's not coming off.

[01:28:38] He's not taking his breaks.

[01:28:40] You have a rookie head coach who's going to listen to everything that he says.

[01:28:44] I don't know if he's going to be like, nah, you're going to take your five minute break.

[01:28:47] We're taking you out at nine minutes in the first or three minutes left in the first.

[01:28:51] You're not going back in until seven and a half in a second.

[01:28:54] And you're down.

[01:28:55] You can be down two or three when he goes out and be down 12 by the time he gets back in.

[01:29:00] I don't know how many games you go doing that.

[01:29:03] Yeah.

[01:29:03] So, so like the Lakers for me are, you know, when I think of that 43 and a half, you know,

[01:29:08] I think they can hit it.

[01:29:10] I think they can get to 44.

[01:29:13] The problem is, is as much as you talked about how they need LeBron.

[01:29:22] LeBron.

[01:29:22] I'll just say his name and break the seal, if you will.

[01:29:25] I said LeBron.

[01:29:26] Okay.

[01:29:26] My bad.

[01:29:27] And then, but, but Anthony Davis, I don't want to say it's now or never because we're way past that.

[01:29:33] But at some point you got to look to become the man.

[01:29:36] You got to look like you want to become the man, you know?

[01:29:39] So what I'm looking for Anthony Davis is.

[01:29:42] He's limited though.

[01:29:44] He is, but he's also the type of dude that needs to touch the ball on every possession.

[01:29:49] And there's way too many possessions that the Lakers have that the ball doesn't touch his hands.

[01:29:54] But the, like it's very similar to Embiid.

[01:29:58] Jokic touching the ball.

[01:30:00] He, Jokic is like a combination of AD and LeBron.

[01:30:04] Whereas if he gets it on the block, there is an opportunity for him to shoot, take it to the cup,

[01:30:11] get fouls, shoot free throws, or be a playmaker.

[01:30:15] All of these things run concurrently while he has the ball in his hand.

[01:30:19] Right.

[01:30:19] And Embiid and AD and Sabonis and some of these guys, it's a matter of like, we're going to get you,

[01:30:27] we're going to get you 18 to 20 shots.

[01:30:29] But because you don't do much else with the ball, like it's not a lot of plays you make with the ball in your hand.

[01:30:36] Like that start with Anthony Davis getting the ball.

[01:30:39] And then this is set up and this is set up.

[01:30:41] And Austin Reeves on a back cut.

[01:30:43] And then he gets to lay up off of the AD action.

[01:30:46] You got to go.

[01:30:47] You got to shoot.

[01:30:47] That's what J.J. Reddick's for, right?

[01:30:49] That's what he's for, to draw up that type of stuff.

[01:30:51] J.J. Reddick was coaching his kids last year.

[01:30:54] You don't think J.J. Reddick could call a play?

[01:30:56] Like I'm not saying that he's going to come into the league and be a top five coach or something,

[01:31:00] but he was a dude that played basketball running off of screens and curls.

[01:31:05] You don't think he could just come up with a concept?

[01:31:07] You could come up with that, but you got to turn a guy who's not a playmaker into a playmaker.

[01:31:12] Certain guys have it.

[01:31:13] LaMelo Ball's a playmaker.

[01:31:15] He has it.

[01:31:16] Jimmy Butler's a grinder.

[01:31:18] You also can't be a playmaker if I don't have you try to make plays.

[01:31:21] Yeah.

[01:31:22] Yeah, you got to be healthy.

[01:31:23] But it's like AD, it's like I said, just certain guys just do certain things with the ball.

[01:31:31] Jokic can do things with the ball.

[01:31:33] The AD, and I'm not saying he's not capable of doing it, but that's not his MO.

[01:31:37] Like Zion Williamson.

[01:31:39] He's not a playmaker with the ball in town on the block.

[01:31:41] He's a scorer when he gets the ball on the block.

[01:31:44] Even Ja Morant.

[01:31:45] Ja Morant at the top of the key is not a playmaker getting guys open.

[01:31:49] He's a playmaker as far as a score.

[01:31:52] He can make things happen that way.

[01:31:53] Well, speaking of...

[01:31:54] LeBron does more.

[01:31:55] AD doesn't do that.

[01:31:56] So it's like AD can take that next step, but it's going to be a lot like MB when you need

[01:32:01] a guy like Maxie that can do the other things that you just simply can't do.

[01:32:06] What do you tell a Laker fan or someone if they say, hey, we in there.

[01:32:13] We lost to Denver the last two years.

[01:32:17] You lost to Denver, but I don't really think people believe that you really had a chance

[01:32:21] to beat Denver.

[01:32:22] I mean, hey, to be fair, last year, each game of that series, they were up 10 points at

[01:32:29] least, and Denver walked them down a lot.

[01:32:32] So I mean, if you're the Lakers, and I mean, this is just going off of who Denver is.

[01:32:37] They have the best...

[01:32:39] No matter how people feel about LeBron, you can say whatever you want.

[01:32:43] What he does on the basketball court, even as he's getting older, in those short spurt

[01:32:50] crunch time moments.

[01:32:51] Because the man is like 22 years in the league.

[01:32:56] I forgot to say, his son is in the league.

[01:32:59] Like, that's how...

[01:32:59] Like, he's played against other people's...

[01:33:01] He's played against other people's parents.

[01:33:04] That kid eliminated some of those guys from the playoffs, and now his own kids in the league.

[01:33:08] Like, he's been in one for a while.

[01:33:09] It's only so much you can expect him to do.

[01:33:11] And I think he's one of the greatest athletes that's ever played any sport in the history of the planet.

[01:33:17] But time is time, and math is math.

[01:33:20] He can't give you 36 top-quality minutes for 82 games to the point where that's what you're going to need.

[01:33:30] I mean, like, we saw with the Olympics.

[01:33:33] He still is by far the best playmaker.

[01:33:35] He is the guy when you have players around him that, like, listen, we go to him.

[01:33:40] And then Steph, once again, woke up in Serbia and then the France game.

[01:33:44] But throughout the Olympic run, like, that's what a run does.

[01:33:48] But that was a three-and-a-half-week run in the summer when he had been off for two months.

[01:33:54] Right.

[01:33:55] Yeah.

[01:33:56] Yeah.

[01:33:56] So, you know, the Lakers are just – I don't know.

[01:34:00] Like, if they truly want to end up contending, they're going to have to try to find a move.

[01:34:04] You know?

[01:34:05] They can't make a move.

[01:34:06] There's no move.

[01:34:07] They're handcuffed because of the players.

[01:34:11] The GM is inadequate at what he does with his job, and he gave all these guys deals that –

[01:34:16] he gave guys deals with player options on player minimum deals.

[01:34:20] It's like, you don't give these guys – because they basically just took spots.

[01:34:24] Like, the guys that he brought in, like, guys like Jackson Hayes, D'Angelo Russell, I think –

[01:34:31] what's the ball name?

[01:34:33] Austin Reed's got a good deal.

[01:34:35] But a lot of these guys, Rui, they got these player option deals.

[01:34:39] Mm-hmm.

[01:34:39] So, there's no leverage for the team.

[01:34:43] They opted into – and they're opting into player minimums, like, $1,000, $2,000, $3 million.

[01:34:48] So, it's not even, like, that much money against the cap.

[01:34:51] It's just that you gave the guys at the end of your bench the opportunity to fill up the end of your bench

[01:34:57] to guarantee that they got their $1 to $3 million.

[01:35:01] And now you don't have guys on the team that are valuable trade bait.

[01:35:05] And coupled with the fact that it is kind of rumored throughout the league that no one really wants to help LeBron

[01:35:10] because it is about, like, LeBron getting the team that he needs.

[01:35:13] Like, I don't think a lot – because, you know, if you give him the – if LeBron has the pieces,

[01:35:18] and I don't know what those pieces are, but if he has the pieces where he can take

[01:35:23] offensive possessions off – imagine, like, okay, hypothetically,

[01:35:27] if Ant was on the same team with LeBron and he could just give him the ball in the offensive end

[01:35:35] and just draw attention by just sliding to the opposite block

[01:35:39] and, like, letting the guy, like, Ant do his thing.

[01:35:41] I know that's, like, an upper echelon, like, draft pick,

[01:35:43] but a guy who has that kind of skill set – because other teams have it

[01:35:47] where you have a couple of guys that can do that.

[01:35:49] Like, we go – like, you know, like Cat and Jalen Brunson.

[01:35:52] We'll go back to the East.

[01:35:54] Cat can give the ball to Jalen Brunson and step back and watch.

[01:35:57] But the defense still has to respect wherever Cat is because Cat can shoot, you know,

[01:36:03] from anywhere and he handles the ball, you know.

[01:36:04] So that's the difference.

[01:36:06] The Lakers never address that.

[01:36:08] Anthony – like I said, Anthony Davis is great near the hoop, maybe 15 feet out.

[01:36:13] He does have, you know, a better jumper.

[01:36:16] But you'll live with him shooting 12 jumpers.

[01:36:20] He will do it.

[01:36:21] And he'll shoot them.

[01:36:22] And he'll shoot those 12 because it's like I don't want to have to bang down here

[01:36:25] all day long.

[01:36:26] And if they don't drop, now LeBron can't go to the bench.

[01:36:30] Right.

[01:36:30] And there you go, folks.

[01:36:33] The hand of the title Dodgers are down to the brink of elimination.

[01:36:38] Two games to one, Padres.

[01:36:41] Yeah.

[01:36:42] Shout out to the Mets.

[01:36:43] The Mets are up too.

[01:36:44] Shout out to Chris.

[01:36:46] He keeps hitting me up.

[01:36:46] Like, we don't talk about the Mets enough.

[01:36:49] So the Metropolitan.

[01:36:50] Yeah, I told him baseball is over, bro.

[01:36:51] Like, don't even worry about it.

[01:36:53] You know what I'm saying?

[01:36:53] But, you know, but keeping it in California and maybe, matter of fact, let's just keep

[01:36:59] it in the same city.

[01:37:00] You know, Norm Powell, you know, I don't know if he was throwing some shots out there or what,

[01:37:04] but he made the comment of we're living subtraction or addition by subtraction.

[01:37:11] So, you know, so Paul's out of there.

[01:37:13] I can only take that as a shot at Paul George.

[01:37:16] The Clippers are one of the worst teams that you could ever watch play basketball because

[01:37:22] they have a lot of players that I like to watch play basketball or that I think are very good

[01:37:28] basketball players.

[01:37:29] But I just don't want them nowhere near each other.

[01:37:32] You know, Norm Powell, Terrence Mann, Amir Coffey.

[01:37:35] I think that's their expectations.

[01:37:36] I think their expectations are too high.

[01:37:38] They are because I never thought they were a contender back in Lob City.

[01:37:42] I don't think they're a contender.

[01:37:43] They weren't a contender now.

[01:37:44] I like the Lob City contender because I thought the Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan,

[01:37:53] I thought that dynamic was like enough to stress.

[01:37:55] I think this team is better than that team.

[01:37:59] But I think those teams are enough to stress another team's defense.

[01:38:04] I don't think the current Clippers.

[01:38:06] I mean, you guard Kawhi.

[01:38:07] Well, not today, but I thought that when the Clippers first got together,

[01:38:10] I took them more seriously as a contender than I ever took Lob City.

[01:38:14] Well, I didn't take them seriously as a defender because the guys just –

[01:38:21] And then I stopped because I saw they had Doc Rivers as their head coach,

[01:38:24] so I stopped taking them seriously.

[01:38:26] Like just the availability of a lot of their superstars is the part that just really –

[01:38:33] Right.

[01:38:33] And now –

[01:38:35] If they made an NBA Finals run one year, then the following year I'd probably be like,

[01:38:40] you know what?

[01:38:42] Maybe they've got it figured out.

[01:38:43] But the fact that they've never – they were never healthy enough to even compete.

[01:38:47] Like Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, you know, you guys like James Hart,

[01:38:51] these guys were never like healthy late into the playoffs collectively.

[01:38:56] Like all of them on the floor, Game 6, Western Conference Finals.

[01:39:00] Like, yo, they got a chance to go into the –

[01:39:02] Like they never even ascended to that point.

[01:39:05] So when people are picking on preseasons, like you're picking them based off of their 2K ratings

[01:39:11] or the fact that they're just like physically just the perfect basketball –

[01:39:17] drawn basketball player.

[01:39:18] Like we talked about Jason Tatum.

[01:39:19] It was like Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, James Harden at 6'5", 6'6",

[01:39:25] being able to handle the ball and score the way he does.

[01:39:27] It was like that's an advantage, but it never seemed to sync up.

[01:39:31] So that's the part why I never like – I never got when people were like,

[01:39:34] oh, it's going to be a Clippers Heat final.

[01:39:37] I was like, based off of what?

[01:39:40] Right.

[01:39:41] Yeah.

[01:39:41] Yeah, so the Clippers are just – they're going to be lucky to make the play in this year.

[01:39:48] And depending on what Kawhi offers as far as availability,

[01:39:53] they may not even get close to that.

[01:39:55] But keeping it in California, Golden State, we mentioned Klay Thompson going to Dallas.

[01:40:02] Golden State made some moves.

[01:40:03] They brought in Buddy Hill.

[01:40:05] They brought in Kyle Anderson.

[01:40:06] They brought in DeAndre – or I'm sorry, DeAnthony Melton.

[01:40:10] And so maybe the defense has improved by those additions.

[01:40:16] Buddy Hill theoretically can hit the amount of shots that Klay can hit.

[01:40:22] But what's the chemistry?

[01:40:24] What's the flow?

[01:40:26] But then the Warriors are still caught up.

[01:40:28] So we talk about the Pistons.

[01:40:29] We talked about the Rockets as far as are you young or old.

[01:40:33] And that's where Golden State, you know, it paid off

[01:40:36] because they won the championship back in 2022.

[01:40:39] But then they couldn't make up their mind on are we going to continue to go for championships

[01:40:44] or are we trying to blend in this new future because you still got Kamego that you're trying to figure out.

[01:40:49] They might have been better off instead of trying to run it back.

[01:40:54] They should have broken it up.

[01:40:55] They should have broken it up after 2020.

[01:40:57] Yeah, because you figure like you're still trying to figure out –

[01:40:59] Like these guys go out with their ring and their trophy.

[01:41:01] Fourth – was that their fourth championship in –

[01:41:04] In like eight years or something like that.

[01:41:06] Yeah.

[01:41:06] Let those guys ride that wave out.

[01:41:09] Send Klay to Orlando.

[01:41:10] Yeah, because you still got –

[01:41:11] Maybe you keep Seth in the open arena.

[01:41:13] Seth and Draymond, but I think you would –

[01:41:15] they would probably have been better off moving some pieces.

[01:41:18] Well, they're still trying to figure out what they have in Kaminga

[01:41:21] and if they're going to pay him.

[01:41:22] You still got Moody floating around there that's, you know, complaining about playing time.

[01:41:27] You got Podzmeski, you know, that you drafted.

[01:41:31] You know, you didn't want to add to the Paul George trade.

[01:41:34] So you got to keep him if you wasn't going to make the Paul George move.

[01:41:38] So they have a lot of young pieces.

[01:41:40] You still got Andrew Wiggins floating around the arena.

[01:41:43] So you're still in the same boat where, like, you might win three extra games

[01:41:49] that you won last year.

[01:41:51] You're in a mediocre boat.

[01:41:52] Yeah, you're still in the same boat.

[01:41:54] There's going to be a bunch of teams out west that are going to be –

[01:41:55] it's going to be – they're going to try to make it sound interesting.

[01:42:00] Like, you know, teams four through nine are only separated by a game and a half.

[01:42:04] Well, to be fair –

[01:42:05] They're going to be like 43 and 39, and then your top three teams are going to be 55-plus wins.

[01:42:12] Yeah, exactly.

[01:42:14] Minnesota, OKC, maybe Denver, you're going to be at 52-54 wins,

[01:42:20] and everybody else is going to be – I don't know about –

[01:42:23] Dallas had a good run at the end of the last year, so maybe I'll give Dallas four.

[01:42:27] They'll be around 47, like, towards the end of that year

[01:42:30] when they're talking about the playoff position and stuff like that.

[01:42:33] Yeah.

[01:42:34] So you're going to have OKC, Minnesota, and Denver well above 50 wins.

[01:42:38] Well, see, if you're using –

[01:42:42] Well, let's use last year as a baseline.

[01:42:46] All right.

[01:42:47] How many wins do you think the 10th seed had last year in the West?

[01:42:52] 10th seed – was that Houston?

[01:42:57] It was Golden State, the last playing spot.

[01:43:00] Yeah, last playing spot.

[01:43:01] Last playing spot.

[01:43:02] I think they had 45?

[01:43:05] 46.

[01:43:05] Yep.

[01:43:06] 46.

[01:43:07] So using that as a baseline, you know, you're asking a lot, you know,

[01:43:11] for some of these teams, in my opinion, as far as how they're constructed now.

[01:43:15] I think the Lakers getting to 46 is tough.

[01:43:18] You know, I think that Phoenix getting to 46 – we ain't even talk about them yet.

[01:43:22] Phoenix getting to 46 is tough.

[01:43:25] Clippers probably aren't getting to 46, you know.

[01:43:27] At least Phoenix has the firepower to potentially get to 46.

[01:43:31] Well, I do like the fact that Phoenix –

[01:43:33] Like, their firepower contingent on availability, I like more than the entirety availability of the Clippers.

[01:43:44] I agree.

[01:43:44] I agree.

[01:43:45] I think DeRent, Booker, Bradley Beal.

[01:43:48] I think these other role players you have can fill in guys who are like, listen, blue guys.

[01:43:54] Rebound, play tough defense, scrap for the ball.

[01:43:56] These three dudes are going to get you 75 points.

[01:43:59] You feed them and make sure they get 75 points.

[01:44:02] I think Phoenix is fine.

[01:44:03] But if you got clips where you got hamstrings and these guys are missing six games

[01:44:08] and then another guy has a knee, he's missing six.

[01:44:10] Another guy has a foot and he's missing ten.

[01:44:12] And they all overlap, then you can just –

[01:44:16] Well, that's the problem that the Suns had anyway because, you know,

[01:44:20] their big three, if you will, didn't play a lot of games together anyway.

[01:44:24] You know, I do –

[01:44:25] Very similar to Kevin DeRent in Brooklyn.

[01:44:26] So it's like you just kind of carried that same baggage.

[01:44:28] I do like the fact that they went out and got Tyus Jones.

[01:44:31] I do like that pickup because that's what Vogel was asking for, get me a point guard.

[01:44:36] You know, they fired him and then they got the point guard.

[01:44:39] Mike Boothoser taking over.

[01:44:40] So, you know, so I think Phoenix might be set up.

[01:44:44] And I think he's good at managing the minutes of his start because he was managing Giannis.

[01:44:49] And I think Giannis is playing 32 minutes.

[01:44:52] It's just availability.

[01:44:53] I think Phoenix can finish top five.

[01:44:55] Yeah.

[01:44:55] If they're all on the floor –

[01:44:57] I know defense wins championships and I understand that.

[01:45:00] But in the regular season, when you play – so you play 82 games.

[01:45:05] I imagine you play like 22 to 24 against Eastern Conference teams.

[01:45:11] That's probably how the schedule works out.

[01:45:13] So if you got a couple of games with Charlotte, a couple of games with Orlando,

[01:45:17] that doesn't really score the ball that great.

[01:45:19] I think you can run off a six or seven game.

[01:45:22] You go on an eight-game road street, you know, road.

[01:45:25] You win six out of eight.

[01:45:27] I think you can make those kind of moves.

[01:45:29] You get Brooklyn who's probably projected to get like 18 wins.

[01:45:34] But if you're available, I think you can string those wins together.

[01:45:37] And then you just battle out in the West.

[01:45:39] I don't know what to make of the Pelicans, you know, because –

[01:45:42] It's conmobulation.

[01:45:43] That's why you can't make something that makes sense.

[01:45:46] I like the DeJounte Murray pickup, you know, from the standpoint of your backcourt gets a little bit more dynamic

[01:45:54] because I thought that it was Ben Tom to get rid of C.J. McCollum anyway, you know, even though he's still there.

[01:46:02] B.I., you know, we talked about him.

[01:46:04] Like what's the deal with him?

[01:46:05] Is he going to be there post-All-Star break?

[01:46:08] You know, if not, you got – if so, you got more –

[01:46:11] You realize our problem, you're going into this season that you and I, we're just two people who are running a –

[01:46:17] you know, have a successful, you know, sports podcast, second best sports podcast in America, by the way.

[01:46:22] And we're confused on what you're doing with these guys on the floor.

[01:46:27] Because it all hinges on that one person staying healthy, right?

[01:46:30] Because like –

[01:46:31] You're adding a person too.

[01:46:32] Because Zion's health, like, yeah, here is hamstring.

[01:46:35] I think they win the Lakers playing a game if he doesn't –

[01:46:37] Yeah, he had, what, 44 points or something?

[01:46:39] I think he had 40 and 44 and they were down, I think, when he scored at last –

[01:46:44] I think they tied it up.

[01:46:45] Either they tied it up or they were down like a possession where the Lakers had just kind of stalled.

[01:46:50] Yeah.

[01:46:51] But he was injured.

[01:46:51] So, I don't know what his health resume or his stretching or Pilates or whatever he's going with.

[01:46:56] But I think they're coming into the season once again with the same questions that we have about them every year

[01:47:02] and there's never seemed to be any kind of resolution.

[01:47:06] That's –

[01:47:06] If you're bad at managing money, it's like, oh, because New Year's come around.

[01:47:09] You say, I'm going to be better with money this year.

[01:47:11] But you don't go find anyone to help you manage your money.

[01:47:14] And then October comes around, you're out of your money.

[01:47:17] Yeah, dog, I should have really on those –

[01:47:18] And then, of course, you know, Valachunas isn't there anymore.

[01:47:23] He's a wizard now.

[01:47:24] So, you know, they lost their –

[01:47:26] You don't want to win if you play for the Wizards.

[01:47:29] You know, hey, he's trade bait to get us some picks.

[01:47:32] But anyway, you know, DeJounte Murray does add a certain level of dyn –

[01:47:39] I don't even know what the word is.

[01:47:40] I think it's dynastic.

[01:47:42] Is that the word?

[01:47:42] There you go.

[01:47:43] Something.

[01:47:43] Well, I don't know.

[01:47:44] That's for a dynasty.

[01:47:45] That's for a dynasty.

[01:47:46] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:47:46] Like, he brings a different type of offense for them.

[01:47:50] I should say that.

[01:47:52] They still have –

[01:47:53] A trait of versatility.

[01:47:54] There you go.

[01:47:55] They have Trey Murphy and Herb Jones still.

[01:47:58] So the defense will be fine as well.

[01:48:00] You know, they still got Alvarado.

[01:48:03] They have zero chemistry.

[01:48:04] But they don't have chemistry.

[01:48:05] That's the point.

[01:48:05] None.

[01:48:06] Not an ounce.

[01:48:07] They have way too much talent to have the same question every year

[01:48:11] because two –

[01:48:12] I believe it was two seasons ago,

[01:48:13] CJ McCollum questioned a guy's availability to want to play through injury.

[01:48:19] And then B.I. was –

[01:48:21] I believe that was a target.

[01:48:22] I personally thought he was talking about Zion.

[01:48:25] Just from just the –

[01:48:26] You know, just a public eye.

[01:48:28] I'm like, okay, he's talking about Zion.

[01:48:30] Right.

[01:48:30] But then some reports came out that that was referenced to, you know,

[01:48:34] conversations and interactions they had with B.I., you know,

[01:48:37] from sources inside the organization.

[01:48:40] And all those same people are there,

[01:48:42] and they haven't achieved anything that can kind of squash that.

[01:48:45] Like with the Miami Heat.

[01:48:46] When the Miami Heat keep going to the NBA Finals,

[01:48:49] you can ignore, like, their, you know,

[01:48:51] their liabilities in between that because, yeah,

[01:48:53] we just went to the NBA Finals in 2020.

[01:48:55] We went back again, and it's like, you know,

[01:48:58] we took out Boston.

[01:48:59] So you have all these things you kind of rest your hat on.

[01:49:02] New Orleans doesn't have any of that.

[01:49:04] So I don't know if B.I. has a good trade bait considering that.

[01:49:07] I think he's either asking for or do, like,

[01:49:11] a $200 million deal potentially.

[01:49:15] So what you think about this one?

[01:49:18] Spurs, 35 and a half.

[01:49:21] Not if they don't get a ball to Wimby.

[01:49:24] It was so many plays where he just was like,

[01:49:27] even if that wasn't the play, he was –

[01:49:31] I saw he would cut from the wing unabated to the free throw line,

[01:49:36] and the guy would be dribbling the ball on the other side

[01:49:39] and not get him the ball.

[01:49:41] Especially if it was Devin Vassell or Sohan.

[01:49:45] Yeah, it had the white guy named Zach something.

[01:49:48] Oh, Zach Collins, yeah.

[01:49:50] Zach Collins would be in the game.

[01:49:53] I think he'd get the ball a bit more.

[01:49:55] But if they – because even if Wimby gets the ball,

[01:49:59] cutting from the wing to the free throw line,

[01:50:01] it's like you can get so much off of a guy that tall,

[01:50:08] 10 feet from – or 15 feet from the hoop,

[01:50:10] and he can make things happen from there.

[01:50:13] Like I said, he doesn't even have to be a great playmaker.

[01:50:15] Just I see over every defender you're sending at me,

[01:50:19] if you try to double me, which you're going to have to –

[01:50:21] if I got a guy that tall getting the ball,

[01:50:24] cutting through the lane at 14, 15 feet from the hoop,

[01:50:27] where he's one dribble finger roll from there,

[01:50:30] even if you try to defend it.

[01:50:32] And he's slender, so it's not like he's going to take up a lot of space.

[01:50:35] He can like George Girvin it, and they weren't giving him the ball.

[01:50:40] I couldn't understand.

[01:50:41] I started watching the Spurs games.

[01:50:43] I watched a lot of them.

[01:50:45] Jordan Johnson, I'm sorry to say because he went to Kentucky,

[01:50:48] but he's not a starter.

[01:50:50] So, you know, you need to add him to the second lineup there.

[01:50:55] You got Chris Paul there.

[01:50:56] You got Chris Paul there.

[01:50:57] You got my guy, Steph Castle, you know, number –

[01:51:01] I want to say three in the – number four in the draft.

[01:51:04] He's there – or five.

[01:51:06] Number five in the draft.

[01:51:07] Oh, number four, my bad.

[01:51:08] Number four in the draft.

[01:51:09] Anyway, you know, he's the future point guard.

[01:51:11] You know, he brings athleticism.

[01:51:13] He brings size, so by the time he becomes ready to go in that way,

[01:51:20] you know, you have him, Wimby, Sohan.

[01:51:24] You got very long arms in those passing lanes.

[01:51:28] So, you know, so the Spurs two, three years from now –

[01:51:31] You have a coach that's like energetic enough to really –

[01:51:35] Right.

[01:51:35] Yes, because Pop is buying age.

[01:51:38] I'm not buying it.

[01:51:39] I think everybody right now that I've been hearing and talking to

[01:51:43] they are just on the boat of Wimby's just going to be that much better in year two,

[01:51:49] so therefore the Spurs are a playoff contender.

[01:51:51] No, they're not.

[01:51:52] They're not a playoff contender.

[01:51:54] They're not even a play-in contender.

[01:51:56] We're still about a year away from that.

[01:51:59] You know, Minnesota –

[01:52:00] They can surprise you.

[01:52:02] They can make some smooth surprises.

[01:52:04] But like I said, that combination of young and old is tough.

[01:52:07] No, like I said –

[01:52:08] Like I said, old-ass sports, young-ass team.

[01:52:10] I know that every season is different.

[01:52:12] There's a surprise.

[01:52:14] You know, like I said, going back to that baseline, going back to that baseline,

[01:52:18] you're asking them to win 24 extra games just to get to the play-in.

[01:52:22] So even if I take five games off and say 41 games gets you to play-in,

[01:52:27] that's plus 19 from last year.

[01:52:29] I don't know if they got plus 19 in them.

[01:52:31] They might got plus seven.

[01:52:33] You know what I mean?

[01:52:34] I like that analysis, that astute analysis.

[01:52:36] Yeah, so, you know, Minnesota, you know, we brought them up shortly earlier,

[01:52:43] real quick.

[01:52:44] But, you know, looking at Minnesota, I think that their defense isn't going to go anywhere,

[01:52:49] you know, which was their strength.

[01:52:51] So I think there will still be a factor.

[01:52:53] I don't think that –

[01:52:54] I think there will still allow them to mug the offensive player.

[01:52:57] Well, that too.

[01:52:58] That too.

[01:52:59] As long as they allow –

[01:53:01] as long as the NBA and the ref allows for that physicality,

[01:53:05] then I think they'll be fine.

[01:53:07] Yeah.

[01:53:08] If that's not the case, then your defenders are going to be on the bench

[01:53:12] and you're relying on Julius Randle and Ant-Man to get you points.

[01:53:17] Well, you also got Nas Reed, who I think –

[01:53:20] I think –

[01:53:20] I'm talking about off the dribble.

[01:53:22] No, no, I know.

[01:53:23] I don't know.

[01:53:23] But I think that the idea is Nas Reed can give you offensively what Cat was giving you.

[01:53:31] Is this still going to be the sixth man, though?

[01:53:33] That's going to be the question.

[01:53:34] If they try to move to the starting lineup, that kind of changes the whole –

[01:53:38] I don't know if he can be because what do you do with –

[01:53:41] In fact.

[01:53:42] What do you do with Julius Randle at that point?

[01:53:44] You know, because –

[01:53:45] I understand.

[01:53:45] Because you got what?

[01:53:46] You got Conley.

[01:53:47] You're probably good to go.

[01:53:48] So Conley and Edwards as your guards.

[01:53:51] You know, Gobert, you know, as your big man.

[01:53:54] You got Julius Randle, and I don't know if you can play Randle and Reed together

[01:53:59] like for –

[01:54:01] You can't start him because –

[01:54:03] Yeah, you can't.

[01:54:03] You don't have a wing defender.

[01:54:06] Right, right.

[01:54:07] So he'll probably have to be the sixth man.

[01:54:09] I do like the rookies that they picked up, you know, Rob Dillingham and Terrence Shannon,

[01:54:16] you know, but of course they're rookies.

[01:54:19] So you just never know.

[01:54:19] And Dillingham is small.

[01:54:20] And a lot of these coaches don't like to play rookies apparently unless you're, you know,

[01:54:25] a top five pick in the draft.

[01:54:27] They don't play you very often.

[01:54:28] So we'll have to see.

[01:54:30] You know, both of those guys are going to be scoring dynamite at some point off the bench.

[01:54:35] What about Dillingham?

[01:54:35] Yeah, Dillingham and Shannon.

[01:54:37] Like they ain't going to give you nothing defensively.

[01:54:39] Because you got Nas Reed as your sixth man.

[01:54:41] And like I said, Dillingham is small.

[01:54:43] Like he's smaller than 31.

[01:54:44] I want to say like he's like in that Bryce Young range.

[01:54:50] Like he's probably listed at 5'11", 190, but he's probably not.

[01:54:54] Well, I think he's listed at 6'1".

[01:54:55] Okay, so he's 5'11", 170.

[01:54:58] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:54:59] So, you know, but the team in Texas to watch out for is those Rockets, you know?

[01:55:04] Like we just got to figure out who's going to.

[01:55:07] You know what?

[01:55:07] Why people always got to be so hyperbolic?

[01:55:11] You know?

[01:55:11] Let's hear it.

[01:55:12] Hold on.

[01:55:12] Let me find it again.

[01:55:13] I know what he said.

[01:55:15] I just want to make sure I'm quoting the right person.

[01:55:17] Yeah, and I'll speak on what I feel like.

[01:55:19] Here it is.

[01:55:20] Yeah, so Tom Haberstroke says that Reed Shepard is the closest thing to Steph Curry that we've seen in a long time.

[01:55:35] It says the same thing about Steph Curry.

[01:55:37] You know, I don't even think Reed Shepard is that type of player.

[01:55:42] Unnecessary.

[01:55:43] Like he's a shooter, but he's not that.

[01:55:44] No one.

[01:55:45] There's no one like Steph Curry.

[01:55:47] No one.

[01:55:49] Nobody, baby.

[01:55:51] Nobody.

[01:55:52] Son won't be like Steph Curry, and he can teach him everything.

[01:55:55] Yeah, Riley won't either.

[01:55:57] But, you know, but like, yeah.

[01:55:59] Some people are one of one on this planet.

[01:56:01] It's okay.

[01:56:02] So Houston.

[01:56:04] And where are you going to play Reed Shepard?

[01:56:06] You know, and that was what I was about to say, because he's the number three.

[01:56:11] He was the number three pick in the draft this year.

[01:56:13] But when you go back to last year, you took up in that number four.

[01:56:18] At number four.

[01:56:19] You know, you brought in Fred Van Vliet.

[01:56:22] You know, you still got Jalen Green at the two who you're trying to like figure out what you got.

[01:56:28] They were trying to trade him for Mikael.

[01:56:30] So like Dan Whitmore.

[01:56:31] Yeah, they were trying to trade him for Mikael Bridges.

[01:56:34] You know, you got Dylan Brooks.

[01:56:36] You know, Stephen Adams is back.

[01:56:38] Almost nothing.

[01:56:39] Yeah, Stephen Adams is back.

[01:56:43] You know, you got Shea Goon.

[01:56:44] You got, damn, I can't think of his name.

[01:56:47] Jabari Smith.

[01:56:49] You got Jabari Smith.

[01:56:50] You have a bunch of you have a bunch of guys that are trying to prove themselves.

[01:56:57] I'm not sure if you have a bunch of guys that are filling in the required crew compliment.

[01:57:05] You got Jeff Green.

[01:57:07] You know, so you got a bunch of old, old ass dudes, some young ass dudes.

[01:57:12] And then there's.

[01:57:16] What's what they play the same position?

[01:57:18] So like, so like, that's what I'm saying.

[01:57:19] Like, theoretically, your future is.

[01:57:23] Theoretically, Reed Shepard is your future with our man Thompson.

[01:57:26] That's your future.

[01:57:28] You know what I mean?

[01:57:29] He ain't got to shoot.

[01:57:30] He's the point guard.

[01:57:31] He's not a threat.

[01:57:32] He's not a threat to shoot the ball.

[01:57:33] So like, no, he's not.

[01:57:35] The only reason most point guards are threats because I have to worry about your ability to control the floor.

[01:57:42] Your ability to control the floor also encapsulates your ability to score.

[01:57:45] He can play.

[01:57:46] He can play.

[01:57:47] He can play great defense.

[01:57:48] I literally, you take away a third.

[01:57:51] You take away a third of my responsibilities.

[01:57:53] That's why you draft these dudes, right?

[01:57:55] Because he's only like 19 years old.

[01:57:56] This is why you draft them.

[01:57:57] Because you say, let me get my guys in here.

[01:58:00] We're going to teach them how to shoot.

[01:58:01] It doesn't always work.

[01:58:02] You have Jalen Green.

[01:58:04] You have guys that you should be teaching already.

[01:58:08] Right.

[01:58:09] And you're drafting other guys.

[01:58:12] It's like you're a kindergarten teacher.

[01:58:14] And you're like, okay, cool.

[01:58:15] I'll take on and I'll babysit the preschool kids, too.

[01:58:17] It's like, no.

[01:58:18] You already got kindergarten kids.

[01:58:19] You're trying to teach them letters.

[01:58:21] You can't.

[01:58:22] Then I'm going to take these fourth graders, too.

[01:58:24] They can come here, too.

[01:58:25] And just fuck up the feng shui between this young group that I have here and these old kids.

[01:58:30] Like, you're teaching two different ideologies, two different concepts at the same time.

[01:58:35] And they all, like, none of them, as far as I can tell, it's my, you know, I haven't done much research.

[01:58:42] But I'm not sure what any of them give you without the ball in their hand.

[01:58:45] Right.

[01:58:47] So if everyone needs a ball in their hand to prove their value, how do you match them up if you have nothing but the same size thing?

[01:58:55] Houston's a shit show.

[01:58:56] Well, I bet it might be the one that's going to blow up.

[01:58:58] Yeah.

[01:58:59] Yeah.

[01:58:59] And so we'll see.

[01:59:00] You know, we'll see.

[01:59:03] But Jazz and Blazers.

[01:59:07] 18 wins.

[01:59:08] I still don't know what the Jazz are doing.

[01:59:10] I don't know if they're tanking for Cooper flag.

[01:59:12] I don't know.

[01:59:13] They're selling 41 home games.

[01:59:15] That's what they're doing.

[01:59:16] We live in Utah.

[01:59:17] They love their sports teams.

[01:59:19] They just want to make sure they're relevant enough and competitive enough to sell out 41 home games.

[01:59:24] Yeah.

[01:59:24] And the Blazers need to make a decision.

[01:59:26] You know, they drafted Donovan Klingan.

[01:59:28] You know, they still have DeAndre Ayton.

[01:59:30] They still have Robert Williams, who's always hurt.

[01:59:33] He's hurt right now.

[01:59:34] You know, Anthony Simons is probably a better point guard right now than Scoot Henderson is.

[01:59:40] He pulled the wool over there.

[01:59:42] I said, he's...

[01:59:44] I mean, first of all, he looked too old to be that young.

[01:59:48] Gotta check the birth certificate on him.

[01:59:50] Yeah.

[01:59:51] But it's the same thing.

[01:59:52] You still got Shaden Sharp.

[01:59:53] You know what I mean?

[01:59:54] But you can't play Anthony Simons.

[01:59:55] It's not as bad as Houston.

[01:59:57] No, no.

[01:59:58] It's not as bad as Houston.

[01:59:59] Because I think you can...

[02:00:00] In that regard, I think you can move...

[02:00:04] This is what Houston's...

[02:00:05] This is how Houston's team probably would have made more sense if they waited to, like, this year.

[02:00:10] Dylan Brooks is a guy that you can bring in to be, like, your enforcer.

[02:00:17] But he has to show up knowing, like, that's his role.

[02:00:20] Like, you don't do anything else.

[02:00:21] You're not out here trying to shoot threes.

[02:00:24] You're the goal.

[02:00:24] Like, you're a light-skinned Tony Allen.

[02:00:27] Just get used to that.

[02:00:29] But when you pay him the money you paid him...

[02:00:31] He won a shoot.

[02:00:32] It comes with, like, oh, I'm one of these valued players that you guys brought in.

[02:00:38] And Portland has an opportunity to make a trade for some of their young pieces and get, like, a veteran in.

[02:00:44] Or they take it for Cooper Flagg.

[02:00:48] You know, that's probably a great market for him.

[02:00:50] Pacific Northwest.

[02:00:51] All-white basketball player.

[02:00:53] I think that fits perfectly.

[02:00:55] Yeah, I think Portland and Brooklyn are hands down the worst teams in the league.

[02:00:59] You know, I think both of them are going to struggle to get to 24 wins.

[02:01:04] You know, Utah...

[02:01:06] Like, I know we're not talking about these.

[02:01:08] You can throw Detroit back in there, too.

[02:01:09] Detroit's going to be in that same realm of 28 wins, 29.

[02:01:13] But that's an improvement for them, so they'll take that.

[02:01:16] You know what I mean?

[02:01:17] Like...

[02:01:17] The NBA, the way they set up their teams and the draft and the lottery picks and everything else and the contracts.

[02:01:27] And we talk...

[02:01:28] We have a big argument a lot of times about the market.

[02:01:31] The NBA really leaned into letting the players dictate how...

[02:01:37] What market I'm going to play in versus, like, giving these...

[02:01:42] Like, San Antonio, maybe...

[02:01:43] Maybe you let San Antonio offer 15 more million dollars.

[02:01:48] So, to keep their guy...

[02:01:50] Like, you have a guy there.

[02:01:51] I know they can...

[02:01:52] I know the deal now is, like, your current team can offer you a five-year deal at the max.

[02:01:58] The other team can only offer you four.

[02:02:00] I'm talking about just in general.

[02:02:02] Just for these teams to be able to keep their all-star players and keep the marquees lit up.

[02:02:07] Hey, if your market is this size...

[02:02:10] Because we're seeing what's happening.

[02:02:12] In the NFL, you get a player...

[02:02:14] Impact is impact.

[02:02:17] Arizona, Kyler Murray, Mars Air Jr., impact is impact.

[02:02:21] LA, a bunch of injuries.

[02:02:23] Nothing you can do about it.

[02:02:24] You won't be impactful.

[02:02:25] You know, so...

[02:02:26] But in basketball, guys tend to play a little bit better.

[02:02:30] Less injuries.

[02:02:31] And they tend to go to, like, stacked teams.

[02:02:33] So, these smaller markets...

[02:02:35] Like, listen, we can offer you X amount of additional cap space to keep your stars.

[02:02:42] Right.

[02:02:43] Then maybe that...

[02:02:44] A guy like DeJounte Murray would, like...

[02:02:46] Cool.

[02:02:46] I'll go from Atlanta...

[02:02:48] Well, you know, he was already in San Antonio.

[02:02:50] But I'll go from...

[02:02:51] We'll just say he wasn't in San Antonio.

[02:02:52] Like, all right.

[02:02:53] I can sign this big deal in Atlanta.

[02:02:54] Big market.

[02:02:56] Or...

[02:02:57] I can go join this young team in San Antonio and get a 10% bump in my annual salary because I'm going to a small market.

[02:03:07] You know.

[02:03:07] Something to kind of incentivize movement from New York to Minnesota more often.

[02:03:15] New York to OKC.

[02:03:17] New York to Milwaukee.

[02:03:20] Get Orlando involved because Orlando's...

[02:03:23] They're going to be a good team.

[02:03:25] But once again, they're going to be sellers if they don't match the same numbers they had last year around the trade deadline.

[02:03:33] Well...

[02:03:33] Because, like, we now have enough money to pay Paolo and keep all these other role players.

[02:03:37] So, it was like...

[02:03:39] Who wants Jalen Suggs?

[02:03:41] Yeah, we'll see.

[02:03:42] I mean, they got...

[02:03:43] They drafted Anthony Black last year.

[02:03:45] They drafted Tristan Da Silva this year.

[02:03:48] So, we'll see if they get minutes.

[02:03:49] You know, Anthony Black didn't play much last year for whatever reason.

[02:03:52] Just like Denver, you know, they didn't play my guy Julian Strother.

[02:03:56] You know?

[02:03:57] And, you know, they brought in Russell Westbrook now.

[02:04:00] So, you know...

[02:04:01] That's the last minutes.

[02:04:03] Yep.

[02:04:03] So, we're going to have to see how that goes, you know.

[02:04:06] But, you know, we will be back on Friday with Picks, Picks, Picks.

[02:04:11] And then, now that we've done with these NBA teams, it's time for us to talk about MVPs, Coach of the Years.

[02:04:17] You know, who's going to play in the finals?

[02:04:19] Who's going to win the finals?

[02:04:21] So on and so forth.

[02:04:22] We'll keep it updated on baseball.

[02:04:24] Yes.

[02:04:25] You know, Padres up two games to one.

[02:04:28] Mets up two games to one.

[02:04:29] So the National League is just about set.

[02:04:32] Like I said, Liberty and Lynx are...

[02:04:34] If we get a Subway Series, I'm going to the city.

[02:04:37] You know, speaking of which, you know, you've got Cleveland and Detroit over in the American League, you know, tied 1-1.

[02:04:45] You've got Kansas City and the Yankees tied at 1-1.

[02:04:48] So they pick up tomorrow.

[02:04:50] So he is the even kill.

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