#sportsreportsasordered - IS IT OVER?

[00:00:05] Yes, you are now listening to the sounds of Sports Reports' order. In checking in, live from New Drews, he said the Nets were better than any point of the time that they've been in Brooklyn.

[00:00:23] Facts.

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[00:00:32] He is Mr. Logical. And it's me, your unorthodox statistician, born left so much I thought I was Southpaw.

[00:00:41] Seeing all the things that's coming at Jake Paul this week.

[00:00:46] 2-5.

[00:00:48] We gonna start this thing off with Get It Off My Chest.

[00:00:50] We gonna talk some college football rankings, some NBA cup thoughts, and of course, The Shield.

[00:00:58] But let's get this started. Get It Off My Chest begins.

[00:01:02] Right now.

[00:01:05] So, for the last couple of years, I've been sitting around saying, hey, the NCAA can't survive.

[00:01:15] You know, they got all these antiquated rules. You know, Jim Harbaugh got in trouble for buying somebody a cheeseburger and lying about it.

[00:01:23] You know, you got Lincoln Riley who just got a slap on, or USC, I should say, that just got a slap on the wrist for some recruiting violations.

[00:01:31] That has Michigan fans scratching their heads.

[00:01:34] You know, how did North Carolina get away with being stupid and having stupid players?

[00:01:39] I think it was Julius Peppers with a 1.9 GPA, you know, but, you know.

[00:01:45] They would teach some of those guys how to recite the alphabet when you're playing football in North Carolina.

[00:01:50] Straight up basket weaving.

[00:01:52] But now, you know, we got an interesting case in my opinion.

[00:01:56] You know, our guy, Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia, suing the NCAA because he wants more eligibility.

[00:02:04] So, what's he doing? What's going on?

[00:02:07] So, he went to junior college before he went to New Mexico State for two ways spent two years there.

[00:02:15] Of course, they won 10 games there last year.

[00:02:18] He's at Vanderbilt this year, bowl eligible.

[00:02:20] So, his question is, why is my JUCO time counting against my NCAA eligibility time when the two entities aren't, they're not collaborators?

[00:02:35] You know, JUCO's over here.

[00:02:38] NCAA's over here.

[00:02:39] So, why does this do this?

[00:02:42] Why does it matter?

[00:02:42] Why is the right hand talking to the left hand in this situation?

[00:02:45] So, this guy came from just nothing.

[00:02:50] He had no offers coming out of high school.

[00:02:54] And that's how he ended up at junior college.

[00:02:57] You know, so, now you tie that along with the House versus NCAA case where ex-players are trying to get back pay NIL and money that they feel they were owed at a time they weren't getting it.

[00:03:12] You combine these two things together.

[00:03:15] We're talking about the college football playoff and how the SEC and Big Ten are kind of over here doing their own little thing.

[00:03:23] And everybody else is over here just waiting for the news to come down.

[00:03:27] So, I said it once.

[00:03:29] I'll say it again.

[00:03:30] NCAA, your days are numbered.

[00:03:34] You know, you better hope that March Madness keeps on popping or they might take that away from you too.

[00:03:43] It is stressful, but they are a multi-billion dollar nonprofit organization.

[00:03:48] I'm pretty sure they'll figure out a way to keep their financial.

[00:03:52] Yeah, they'll just deal with the FCS.

[00:03:54] Yeah, of course.

[00:03:55] They'll deal with the FCS.

[00:03:56] I think they'll figure out a way to do it.

[00:03:58] They'll lock in.

[00:03:59] They'll have these conferences lock in with different contracts and NDAs and different leverage.

[00:04:06] They'll leverage their piece enough to where they'll stick around because you need a governing body anyway.

[00:04:13] Because as we've seen currently, like it's kind of like the wild, wild west in regards to, you know, you have California teams and the ACC.

[00:04:22] Hey, Greg Sankey and Petiti said, we are the governing body.

[00:04:29] Yeah.

[00:04:30] So they'll figure out how to maximize the funds.

[00:04:35] It won't be fair to everybody, but life isn't fair.

[00:04:37] But yeah, they'll figure out a way to stick around.

[00:04:39] But like you said, if they don't figure out a way, some other entity is going to come through with another plan, a revenue sharing plan.

[00:04:47] Well, remember, we were talking a couple of months ago.

[00:04:49] That's going to tweak a few, you know, a few people are going to be really interested in how do we maximize this Southeastern Conference athleticism.

[00:05:01] Well, you remember a couple of months ago, we were talking about companies trying to take over or not take over.

[00:05:06] I shouldn't say take over, but the conferences that were talking to companies for conference naming rights, you know, where like the big club was talking to all state or whoever it was.

[00:05:15] And it was going to be the all state 12 or whatever. We talked about the Buckees 12.

[00:05:20] So, you know, little things like that are chipping away and it's going to happen sooner than later.

[00:05:25] The Nabisco Southeastern Conference. It is getting crackers and Oreos.

[00:05:30] There you go. That'd be crazy.

[00:05:34] Yeah. So my get off my chest is a story oldest time.

[00:05:42] And the thing is, like, I know a lot of a lot of conversations are hindsight 2020.

[00:05:48] You can see clearly after you get more facts.

[00:05:51] But the buildup, you know, whether it's a job you like, a place you want to move, a person you want to date, a car you want to buy, everything on the buildup looks like it's all positive.

[00:06:03] Like, oh, this car is all will drive is eight airbags.

[00:06:07] It's only going to cost me as much a month.

[00:06:09] And, you know, you rationalize it.

[00:06:11] Then you get the first maintenance bill.

[00:06:13] And it's like, oh, my gosh, two thousand dollars for headlights and the oil change.

[00:06:17] Now everything was different.

[00:06:20] Chicago was presented with that problem last offseason when Lovie Smith, a couple years ago, gifted them the number one pick.

[00:06:29] They traded to Carolina and they ended up getting more picks and just worked in their favor.

[00:06:34] And they botched every single opportunity that they had.

[00:06:37] So I have to look with that.

[00:06:40] So now they have Caleb Williams.

[00:06:43] When they drafted Caleb Williams, they knew for sure, definitively, without a doubt, what I shatter without Matt Eberflus was not good at developing young quarterbacks that weren't definitely they weren't traditional drop back quarterbacks.

[00:07:00] Justin Fields was more of a runner with a big arm, big quarterback, very athletic, moved around a lot in college, still had a big arm.

[00:07:08] And then you get Caleb Williams, a little smaller, but he's still like probably like six one or six to two to three.

[00:07:14] So stocky guy, big quarterback.

[00:07:16] He's not like Bryce Young in comparison.

[00:07:20] Same effect moves around, like to make plays outside the pocket, like to take the deep shot.

[00:07:26] You paired them with a quarterback and a coach combination and the coaches has zero idea how to get guys open.

[00:07:33] And it's not part of his game plan.

[00:07:36] It seems like he is completely disconnected from it other than firing off from some coordinator and then bringing in the guy Thomas Brown, who was the reason they got the number one pick this year.

[00:07:48] Anyway, Carolina last year.

[00:07:52] So.

[00:07:54] It just seems like par for the course to just keep making the same mistakes over and over again, instead of just realizing, all right, I bought this car.

[00:08:04] The maintenance is high.

[00:08:07] How much is the preventative maintenance?

[00:08:09] OK, let me make sure I stay on top of that.

[00:08:12] Let me make sure I do these things in the meantime to ensure that I don't have $2,000 maintenance bills every few months.

[00:08:20] They aren't doing that.

[00:08:21] They're just winging it.

[00:08:23] They're pushing it to the limit and hope that something works out.

[00:08:26] Matt Eberfoo should not have a job at the end of this season.

[00:08:31] Pardon me.

[00:08:32] Still under the weather.

[00:08:33] Because he has shown you over the last few years that he is not wired or built for primetime and making primetime decisions and making sure that the offense moves forward.

[00:08:48] Brian Paul's GM.

[00:08:50] He can go with him.

[00:08:53] Cut it out.

[00:08:55] Start over.

[00:08:57] Pay wherever you got to pay.

[00:08:59] You're a four or five, six billion dollar organization.

[00:09:04] Whatever you owe Matt Eberfoo is.

[00:09:08] Vizine drops of water in the ocean compared to what your net worth is as an organization.

[00:09:14] Go get an offensive centric package of coaches to ensure that this number one pick you have doesn't turn into another guy.

[00:09:24] You can't trade away on top of that.

[00:09:26] They could have traded Justin Fields pre draft and probably got a better deal than whatever they got from Pittsburgh, but they want to make it seem mysterious like, oh, we don't get straight them.

[00:09:37] You knew in March, you knew when the season ended for sure.

[00:09:41] When the new year started, you could have traded them.

[00:09:43] You could have probably traded them to Atlanta and probably got a third or fourth.

[00:09:47] Maybe excuse me.

[00:09:50] You could have done more.

[00:09:52] But this arrogance to think that because you have back to back number one picks or back to back top picks, you're going to do great things with it.

[00:10:01] It's proof you have no idea what you're doing.

[00:10:03] So I'm telling you, get rid of your current coaching staff.

[00:10:07] Bring in an offensive minded coaching staff.

[00:10:10] Whoever is a Mark Mike March disciple, a North Turner disciple, a Schottenheimer disciple, Andy Reid disciple.

[00:10:18] Do not bring back Matt Nagy.

[00:10:21] Somebody that's going to put points on the board, receivers and great route combinations.

[00:10:27] Whoever that person is, bring them in.

[00:10:30] And no matter whatever the cost, because if you don't, you'll be wondering just like Carolina is right now.

[00:10:38] Did we waste our number one draft pick from 18 months ago?

[00:10:45] Well, you know what's funny right now?

[00:10:48] Is that, you know, you got a Schottenheimer as the offensive coordinator in Dallas.

[00:10:53] You got a North Turner consulting with the Raiders.

[00:10:56] You know, I guess his son Scott is probably going to end up there.

[00:11:00] But first of all, Mr.

[00:11:01] Lodge, I got to take you to task.

[00:11:04] Let's hear it.

[00:11:05] Why you got to talk about former Falcons that way.

[00:11:08] Thomas Brown is OK.

[00:11:10] Never mind.

[00:11:12] So, you know, but hey, he's one of those guys that you were talking about.

[00:11:16] I'm proud of this guy getting his job.

[00:11:19] But I'm just saying as far as like, as it pertains to the Bears.

[00:11:23] It's like, I know, like that, that shouldn't be your move.

[00:11:27] Well, he's one of those guys.

[00:11:29] He's one of those guys you were talking about, you know, that he had a conversation with Sean

[00:11:33] McVay.

[00:11:34] And, you know, saying he was the running back coach when they won the Super Bowl.

[00:11:38] And they were like, yo, here you go.

[00:11:40] But then when you look at it as well, Shane Waldron, the offensive coordinator that got fired, you know, he just came from Seattle coaching

[00:11:48] Gino Smith with DK Metcalf.

[00:11:50] Seattle is not known for like, like really?

[00:11:54] No, but you know, but you know, Smith has had the best years of he had the best year of his career.

[00:11:59] Nine years in the league, though.

[00:12:01] I know.

[00:12:02] And he was and he and when Gino got to Seattle and he was starting a lot of us was like, why is he starting?

[00:12:09] No, I felt like Gino.

[00:12:12] This was his shot.

[00:12:13] But he has been through the ringer for seven years.

[00:12:16] And so came on the other side.

[00:12:18] Same thing with Sam Darnold.

[00:12:20] Like, I like a guy like Gardner Mitchell, a guy that's been through something.

[00:12:24] But when you bring in a young player, you need a coach that's going to actually maximize that.

[00:12:29] There's nothing that says Matt Eberflus knows how to do that.

[00:12:34] Justin Fields was running for his life.

[00:12:36] And people say, oh, he's holding on to the ball too long.

[00:12:37] Well, maybe because 60% of the game, he's not comfortable behind the line of scrimmage.

[00:12:42] So it's like Tom Brady could slide in the pocket in New England.

[00:12:46] He could slide in Tampa Bay because he knew.

[00:12:48] I told these guys built up this offensive line because they know I'm not going anywhere.

[00:12:55] I'm not getting out of this pocket.

[00:12:56] I'm not scrambling.

[00:12:57] I'm not using an ounce of athleticism.

[00:13:00] It's all head, shoulders, arm.

[00:13:03] That's all I'm using.

[00:13:04] So you need to make sure there's a wall here.

[00:13:07] It was all right there.

[00:13:09] It was all right there.

[00:13:10] It was all right there.

[00:13:11] They could have got the guy that's in Washington.

[00:13:15] I don't know if they got along at USC.

[00:13:17] It was rumors last year that only, what's the bull name, the head coach at USC?

[00:13:24] Lincoln Riley.

[00:13:24] Lincoln Riley.

[00:13:25] Lincoln Riley.

[00:13:26] There was rumors that, you know, sources as they were leading up to the draft was that

[00:13:31] the only person that could talk directly to Caleb about his play was Lincoln Riley.

[00:13:37] Hmm.

[00:13:38] That's interesting.

[00:13:39] You know, but I don't know, like, you know, a couple of weeks ago, it was all good.

[00:13:43] Caleb Williams looked like he was starting to string some things together.

[00:13:47] It was never all good.

[00:13:49] It was never all good.

[00:13:50] He had like two good games.

[00:13:51] And then everybody, then there was all this talk about is that is the NFC North going to be the first division to have all four teams make the playoffs.

[00:14:00] That was, that was talk.

[00:14:02] That was talk.

[00:14:03] Just I watched Caleb Williams throws.

[00:14:06] DJ Moore would be wide open and that ball wouldn't be on time.

[00:14:12] It would be on time.

[00:14:13] If he was going to have more tree, it was a lot of passes.

[00:14:16] We'll get lofted to him.

[00:14:18] Some passes seem to get through by luck.

[00:14:21] It was a, it was those throws like a lot of his throws that he misses.

[00:14:25] I don't think, I don't know if he's as accurate as people projected him to be, or if he just was throwing the wide open guys at UNC.

[00:14:33] But the way he throws the ball, just see, is he's looking more like he's looking more like he's going to be his career is going to kind of shape up more like Mac Jones.

[00:14:45] Well, I was going to ask you.

[00:14:47] Well, I was going to ask you.

[00:14:47] It's just like, it's, you just might have been in a, you might have been in a position where your talent, your height versus your talent puts you in a position where you don't look like as you're good as, as you think you are.

[00:15:01] Well, I was going to ask you, do you think that this is an example of a guy who was always the best, you know, won a lot of games everywhere he went?

[00:15:13] Like they never won the Pac-12, but you know, but they were winning games.

[00:15:16] They were a game away from the college football playoff at one point.

[00:15:19] Do you think this is an example of one of those guys that got to the league, got humbled, and now his confidence might be shaking a little bit?

[00:15:27] Or do you think he just, he was just overrated to begin with?

[00:15:30] I think, I think his, his playing style in college in the nineties, because Tim Hasselbeck said this on Colin Carver show earlier.

[00:15:40] And he was talking about when he got drafted, it was like the league was looking at quarterbacks.

[00:15:47] Like basically if you weren't six, four, they, they weren't entertaining you as a quarterback.

[00:15:53] Right.

[00:15:53] Well, if you were Charlie Ward, even Mike Vick to, but Mike Vick has such an arm.

[00:15:58] People know it was going to be a project.

[00:16:00] You had to take a chance.

[00:16:01] You had to take a chance.

[00:16:03] I think now they're ignoring somebody's red flags because it worked for my homes.

[00:16:10] It worked for a while with Deshaun Watson.

[00:16:13] I think people are evaluating these guys who move around a lot in the pocket and just for, you know, decisions like worst case scenario, best case scenario, most likely scenario.

[00:16:30] I think people are leaning more towards best case scenario.

[00:16:33] This guy could be Aaron Rogers outside of the pocket.

[00:16:37] And it's like, that's not a realistic standard to bestow on a guy who's 21, who's been playing against college guys for the last few years.

[00:16:46] Right.

[00:16:46] I think that's what happened.

[00:16:47] I think people looked at the way he moved around and you could clip it to what my home is doing.

[00:16:53] But if you see now, like my home is without like a guarantee.

[00:16:56] Why are we see we're throwing the outside that can get the spots and get open?

[00:17:00] He looks kind of average because you still need like you, you need, you need playmakers to play the style that Kayla Williams is playing.

[00:17:08] Right.

[00:17:09] The same thing with my homes.

[00:17:10] Yeah.

[00:17:11] So, so what about, you know, there was the report that came out today saying that there was a bunch of veterans on the team that want him to be benched.

[00:17:21] Yeah.

[00:17:22] Bench for who?

[00:17:24] Your guy, Tyson Bajin.

[00:17:26] For what?

[00:17:29] I guess they just like him.

[00:17:30] I mean, so Tyson Bajin.

[00:17:32] So you can lose games and he just throws the ball on time.

[00:17:34] I mean, he was one of those dudes that the numbers might not show it, but you know, he was, he was playing well, considering that he's a division three dude that was starting his first NFL games.

[00:17:47] It almost had like a kind of feel to it.

[00:17:52] You're down 23 to 17 fourth quarter.

[00:17:56] You need a touchdown to win the game.

[00:17:57] He saw throwing a pick.

[00:18:00] I mean, like it is.

[00:18:01] Hey, don't treat him like you defeat a man or something.

[00:18:03] Like I said, like an episode of entourage.

[00:18:07] I had a very interesting statement.

[00:18:08] It was like a guy Vince.

[00:18:10] He said he want to be, you know, they were talking about buying a house.

[00:18:13] That's what they buy in a house.

[00:18:14] He's like, oh, this is a house fit for a prince.

[00:18:17] He's like, when you want to be the king, he was like, no, everybody wants to kill the king.

[00:18:21] But if the prince, I can walk around saying, hey, one day I will be king.

[00:18:25] And I think backup quarterbacks and the audience and the crowd and the fans, they look at the backup quarterback like that is the prince.

[00:18:35] The king is terrible.

[00:18:36] But it's like the reason that the king is in a position that he is in is because the hierarchy is he is higher than the prince.

[00:18:42] You're not good.

[00:18:43] It's not college where he's going to have a five star guy backing up another five star guy like the guy you have is not as good as your starter.

[00:18:53] Your offensive line is no good and your offensive scheme is no good.

[00:18:58] You could put anyone behind that offensive line and it's going to be a tragedy.

[00:19:02] But they also pick those guys on offensive line.

[00:19:06] They also paid those guys.

[00:19:07] So that's the problem.

[00:19:09] That's a problem that they're having in Chicago and Caleb, you know, he's emotional guys that he had like this very, I won't say hubris, very confident personality and people like, yo, you're going to get humbled.

[00:19:22] And I don't know if like if it's a matter of him like having the games of humility or just being honest, like he's not a team that's not that good.

[00:19:31] They stumbled away to seven wins because Justin field ran for his life for a couple of victories, you know?

[00:19:38] So it was like, it wasn't as if they run a team that was really good and the quarterback and injured and you know, no, you were on the team that scrambled their way and scratch and claw to seven wins.

[00:19:49] Right. And the one is here, you know, the one Mike podcast, make sure you checking that out.

[00:19:55] Mike was dead on. Mike was calling them Johnny football all before the draft.

[00:20:00] I tried. I'm like, nah, I think he'll be better than that. I think it's, it looks a lot like that.

[00:20:06] I think it should be good because I think, you know, the standard pocket passing quarterback is just, he needs an offense that allows him.

[00:20:14] Well, here's one for you. It only because you said his name. I wasn't even going to say this, but just because you brought up his name.

[00:20:20] Speaking of McCorkle, Matt Jones. Yeah. Did you see what he did this weekend?

[00:20:26] Yeah. The thing is not even the lowest pass rating of his career.

[00:20:30] Matter of fact, did you see what the team did? 138 total yards.

[00:20:39] That's three. That's three. That's three drives.

[00:20:44] When you punt, you should get that many yards.

[00:20:47] 138 total yards in an NFL game.

[00:20:52] Just, I don't know. Like, you know what I mean? And you're, you're a hot seat guys.

[00:20:57] Is out here like a hot comb on a stove.

[00:20:59] I know. And then they lost the game on a penalty too.

[00:21:02] Like, so, you know, it was just one of those things where I can't save you.

[00:21:06] I can't save you. So Mr. Logical.

[00:21:10] I got to ask you the question.

[00:21:12] I got to ask you the question.

[00:21:15] Because Patrick Mahomes has been walking around with a leprechaun on his shoulder and a shamrock in his pocket.

[00:21:22] Are the Chiefs going to repeat?

[00:21:24] Are the Chiefs going to repeat?

[00:21:27] I picked them.

[00:21:29] I picked Casey over Detroit.

[00:21:33] We're post trade that line.

[00:21:37] Rasheed Rice, from what they were talking about is the injury.

[00:21:42] I haven't heard it was season ending.

[00:21:44] But it hasn't been a lot of conversation about him coming back.

[00:21:47] Sort of disactivated.

[00:21:53] Millville's own.

[00:21:54] I was there for checkoff IR.

[00:21:57] I just don't, I don't see the touchdown drive when you need a touchdown.

[00:22:03] To put the game away.

[00:22:04] That you're used to seeing from Kansas City.

[00:22:09] Like, Kansas City, Andy Reid, Mahomes, Matt Nagy.

[00:22:14] It just seems over the last, wait, so he's got four Super Bowl appearances.

[00:22:20] Six, this is the seventh season of the starter, correct?

[00:22:23] Yes.

[00:22:25] Three, two league MVPs.

[00:22:28] Three Super Bowl MVPs.

[00:22:31] And every one of these other years, there was the pivotal drive where they needed a touchdown or they needed a big play.

[00:22:42] And they just made it.

[00:22:45] Every single time.

[00:22:46] The 13 seconds against Buffalo.

[00:22:49] Being down 24-0 to Houston in the first half.

[00:22:53] And going into halftime up 28-24.

[00:22:56] Being down to Tennessee where he scrambled on the sideline and got the touchdown.

[00:23:00] Even being up 21-3 on the Bengals ended up having a bad second half.

[00:23:07] But that was, to that point, was his only bad half of football in his career.

[00:23:12] Even from that point we had it.

[00:23:14] The next season, you know, the next couple seasons where they got Super Bowl.

[00:23:17] So it was like, he had one bad half against Cincinnati and then came back with two back-to-back Super Bowl MVP years.

[00:23:24] So there's like so much going on.

[00:23:26] But this year, it just seems as if...

[00:23:29] I'm going to give a shout-out to defenses.

[00:23:31] I think defenses have gotten better.

[00:23:33] I think defensive coordinators, because they're not as sought after for head coaching positions.

[00:23:39] I think they just lock in to being defensive coordinators.

[00:23:42] And I think they get ultra creative.

[00:23:44] Like, I think what Spagnuolo is doing, if he was thinking about being a head coach somewhere,

[00:23:48] I don't know if he's in the lab as much as he is drawing up the stuff.

[00:23:53] Brian Flores drawing up the stuff.

[00:23:55] We talked about Jacksonville being on the hot seat.

[00:23:57] They only gave up 12 points and lost because the offense wasn't doing anything because the other defense on the other side.

[00:24:04] You look at New England.

[00:24:06] New England gave up three points to Chicago.

[00:24:07] Now, we're not saying Chicago's a world-beater, but Arizona shutting down the Jets.

[00:24:12] So I think defenses are getting better.

[00:24:15] I think they're getting crafter.

[00:24:16] I think they're getting smarter because you're getting a lot of small wide receivers trying to run these quick routes and defenses are jamming these guys up.

[00:24:25] Cornerbacks are getting more and more physical.

[00:24:27] If you look at Seattle's cornerback, I think they all run like 6'1", 6'2".

[00:24:32] So I think teams defensively are starting to put more dynamic athletes on that side of the ball.

[00:24:39] So now you can't just run.

[00:24:41] Yeah, you can run all these tight ends out there.

[00:24:42] It was cool.

[00:24:43] I got a linebacker that can run with your tight end.

[00:24:47] And you can also carry your slot receiver up the scene.

[00:24:52] So I think that's part of it.

[00:24:54] And Casey not having the guy that can make the play.

[00:24:59] Kelsey's going to get you 13 catches, but it'd be 13 catches for 98 yards.

[00:25:04] You know, they thought Worthy was going to be the piece.

[00:25:07] I think Keon Coleman probably would have been a better pick considering they needed an outside guy.

[00:25:11] I don't think they needed that deep threat.

[00:25:13] I think they need like a dynamic receiver on the outside and Worthy's not that guy.

[00:25:18] Well, you know, they went Tyreek Hill shopping.

[00:25:22] You know, they were trying to find the next cheetah.

[00:25:26] And the only thing that we've seen him be effective on is little tosses, little sweeps,

[00:25:32] you know, not necessarily in the passing game, you know, and I think that, you know,

[00:25:37] getting DeAndre Hopkins gives them a little more shelf life because before that move,

[00:25:44] you know, in my mind, I was like, hey, could Kansas City actually lose their first playoff game?

[00:25:49] But now that they got picked against some last year and I said I won't do it again.

[00:25:53] But the thing with DeAndre Hopkins, DeAndre Hopkins, he is just a, the routes, I think his, his most dangerous route combinations are just a slight extension of what Kelsey gives you.

[00:26:05] So it's effective.

[00:26:07] So it's effective.

[00:26:07] But I can still, I can, I can cover Worthy the same way with any of your wide receivers on the field.

[00:26:15] Like I don't have to alter how I, and that's why I'm thinking that.

[00:26:19] And that's why I'm thinking that.

[00:26:19] Worthy is an over the top threat.

[00:26:20] Like, like I'll give you this underneath stuff.

[00:26:23] I'll give you that all day long because I can defend that because like I said, I'm running, I'm running a linebacker at Kelsey that matches up with him physically, athletically.

[00:26:33] And then DeAndre Hopkins is a possession receiver.

[00:26:36] He's not going to blow by you.

[00:26:37] He's going to, yeah, he'll get open and he still has speed.

[00:26:41] Like I'm not saying he's slow, but he's not, he's not taking the top off on the other side to where the safety in the middle of the field has to worry about DeAndre Hopkins going to the sideline.

[00:26:51] That's why I think they missed Hollywood Brown.

[00:26:53] We just doubled.

[00:26:53] That's why I think they missed the presence of Hollywood Brown.

[00:26:56] Like he didn't get to play with them, but you know, he would have been that deep threat that would allow what that would allow Xavier worthy to be more of that.

[00:27:05] So he, so Xavier worthy could have been the jail and waddle to Hollywood's Tyreek.

[00:27:11] You know, so without him there, and it doesn't look like he's going to play, you know, he's, he had the surgery.

[00:27:17] He's out for the season for about four months from the surgery would be about January 16th.

[00:27:22] So that's, you know, that's probably wild card weekend or somewhere around there.

[00:27:27] So it's not like he's going to come back, you know, their defense hasn't missed a step.

[00:27:32] You know, I thought that losing Snead would hurt them, but you know, they've been able to find these DBs.

[00:27:39] Long as your past, long as your, your front seven, long as you can rush for.

[00:27:45] And then when you do blitz five and get a home with a linebacker, then I think your, your, your cornerbacks just have literally a second and a half less of coverage because you can't hold onto the ball.

[00:27:56] Like you can't sit back there and pat the ball for four seconds with the cheese.

[00:28:00] Cause they are born down.

[00:28:03] Buffalo can put up 30 points.

[00:28:05] I haven't seen Kansas city.

[00:28:07] I don't know.

[00:28:10] I can't recall a quarter this year where they got the ball at the beginning of the quarter, got a touchdown, got the ball back and got another touchdown.

[00:28:20] Maybe the Raiders game.

[00:28:21] That's the only game that really stands out in my mind.

[00:28:24] Even with that, I think it still was like, they needed a fumble at the end to really lock that game away.

[00:28:28] Yeah.

[00:28:30] Yeah.

[00:28:30] They're playing, they're playing with fire.

[00:28:32] It's the same thing that we talked about college football.

[00:28:34] It's the same thing that we talked about with Miami.

[00:28:37] It's like you getting off to these slow starts, you falling behind, you know, you gotta have heroic plays just to get out of there.

[00:28:45] And it came back to bite you in the ass.

[00:28:47] So I think that's where Kansas city is right now.

[00:28:49] And I can't be cussing cause they won't let me promote the video, but you know, but they won't, but they won't, you know, but, um, so I was going to ask you as well, you know, so I was going to ask you as well, you know,

[00:28:58] I was looking at the playoff picture, obviously, you know, we just crossed the halfway point last week.

[00:29:04] So this probably will change, but let's just talk about it.

[00:29:11] So I went out and I picked out the teams that are in the playoffs as of today.

[00:29:18] And I want to know, I want to know who you believe in and who you don't believe in.

[00:29:25] Believe not believe.

[00:29:26] All right.

[00:29:27] So in the NFC, Washington, Atlanta, Arizona, and I'm going to throw one by one.

[00:29:36] Well, I'm just, I'm just going to name them, you know, and then, and then I'm gonna go green Bay.

[00:29:40] I'm gonna just add them in because Jordan love keep giving the ball away.

[00:29:44] Like, you know, and then in the AFC chargers and Broncos.

[00:29:50] So out of those, out of that group of teams, who's real and who's fake.

[00:29:57] So we got Washington, green Bay, Atlanta, and who else was Arizona, Arizona.

[00:30:03] Yeah.

[00:30:03] All right.

[00:30:04] So, believe in that, I'll start with the AFC because only two teams.

[00:30:09] I'm gonna say, I don't believe in the chargers or the Broncos.

[00:30:15] Okay.

[00:30:17] Mainly because the only reason people will believe in them is the coaches.

[00:30:25] Okay.

[00:30:26] The coaches aren't on the field crunch time in the playoffs.

[00:30:30] They make all the calls.

[00:30:32] They could do everything, but Bo Nix has to stand up there, look at the defense and make the play.

[00:30:39] When it's tough and you've run 17 games, 17 games of film.

[00:30:45] They looked at your tendencies.

[00:30:47] We talked, we're going to talk about the punt, the field goal that they got blocked.

[00:30:52] That was seven or eight games of tendencies that Kansas City picked up on even throughout that game.

[00:30:57] Like the guy was kind of jumpy on like three or four kick attempts.

[00:31:01] The chargers.

[00:31:02] I just don't believe in Justin Herbert as a playmaker when it's, when it's crunch time.

[00:31:08] Case in point, his playoff game against Jacksonville where they had the 27 point lead.

[00:31:13] It was like, how do you get a 27 point lead and then clam up?

[00:31:17] And I think he's been kind of riding that ever since then.

[00:31:21] So like that's, those are the two guys I don't believe because like I said, I think people will believe in those teams.

[00:31:27] It's strictly because of the coaches and like, listen, I get it.

[00:31:29] It's X's and O's and Jimmy's and Joe's and playoff time at the end of the game.

[00:31:34] It's not about your game plan.

[00:31:35] It's about the guys executing the game plan.

[00:31:38] And I don't think that I know Denver's defense is like top five and.

[00:31:44] Yeah.

[00:31:44] So, so, so, so, so, um, Kansas City is for Denver's five charges or six in total defense.

[00:31:51] But, but so, so that's where I was going to go to push back against what you're saying, you know, so, so I agree with you on Denver.

[00:31:58] You know, um, I think Denver is.

[00:32:03] We, I think when Denver plays elite teams, it's going to look a lot more like the Baltimore game than the Kansas City game.

[00:32:11] Getting down 14 zero to NFL game is not a, it's not, it's not crazy for an NFL offense in the playoffs to be able to get 14 points in the first couple of possessions.

[00:32:25] It's just, you know, you got your first scripted 15 plays.

[00:32:27] So you take a team like Baltimore with Lamar or who else would they end up matching like Buffalo.

[00:32:35] So you have a young quarterback and Bo Nix.

[00:32:39] Baltimore gets the ball first.

[00:32:41] They come out, get their touchdown.

[00:32:42] Derek Henry gets his touchdown effectively running the ball because you can neutralize the defense by effectively running the ball.

[00:32:48] Because the most scoring defense is from teams because you get a nice little lead and they're just playing the pack.

[00:32:54] Well, you can mix in the run effectively with Lamar and Derek Henry.

[00:32:59] And then the wide receivers that are in Baltimore.

[00:33:02] They just kind of know Lamar is going to give me the ball.

[00:33:04] If I get in the space, just getting the space.

[00:33:07] I might run this curl and he might be scrambling, but if I just come across his face, pause, he'll, he'll throw the pass to me.

[00:33:15] Well, in reference to the Chargers.

[00:33:17] I think, and then with the Chargers, I think that I don't know if Justin Herbert, I don't know if Justin Herbert down 10-0 is as effective as he is.

[00:33:26] Well, this is the thing for me.

[00:33:27] So with the Chargers, right?

[00:33:28] I, um, the Chargers last, the last few years have been a bunch of knuckleheads, you know, untimely penalties, dumb penalties, Derwin James at the front of the line.

[00:33:39] You know, both is always hurt.

[00:33:41] So you can't depend on him.

[00:33:43] Um, but when I look at the Chargers this year, and this is where, you know, it's one of those things, right?

[00:33:48] I don't know if the Chargers can make the playoffs, but if the Chargers make the playoffs, I think their defense is enough to rattle some teams or to keep them within games.

[00:34:02] So to your point about Justin Herbert, right?

[00:34:04] For the most of the season so far, he's been a game manager, you know, and when I think about teams that have good defense game manager, I think of like your Trent Dilfers and your Ryan Fitzpatrick.

[00:34:17] Ryan Fitzpatrick.

[00:34:19] And that wasn't the name I was thinking.

[00:34:20] Tannehill.

[00:34:21] There you go.

[00:34:21] That's the name I was thinking about Ryan Tannehill from Carolina.

[00:34:24] I mean, Tennessee.

[00:34:26] So when I look at those type of quarterbacks and think about what they achieved once they had a good defense, I look at Justin Herbert.

[00:34:34] And I'm like, that's a hell of a game manager, because hardball is not asking him to do a lot.

[00:34:40] Hardball is not saying, hey, you know what, Justin Herbert, like when Staley was the coach, it was Herbert go out there and get us three 50.

[00:34:47] You know, we got to go win this game and then he would get you three 15 with just one touchdown pass, you know, but this year, Harbaugh is saying, you know what?

[00:34:57] I'll call on you when I need you, you know, from now on.

[00:35:00] Exactly.

[00:35:01] One 11 touchdowns, one interception so far.

[00:35:03] So he's protecting the ball and you're giving your defense opportunities to not fall behind.

[00:35:09] So this weekend, hold up.

[00:35:11] Real quick.

[00:35:12] For this weekend.

[00:35:13] Cause like you're going to.

[00:35:14] That's what I'm about to say.

[00:35:15] If you let me finish.

[00:35:16] I'm trying to get there.

[00:35:17] I'm trying to get there.

[00:35:18] So, so they play Cincinnati on Sunday night.

[00:35:23] So this is, I want to see this game, you know, cause they're like, they can truly evaluate

[00:35:28] this and say, well, he likes up everybody.

[00:35:31] That doesn't say anything, but, but they have something that Justin Herbert's going

[00:35:35] to have to throw him back in the games.

[00:35:37] We have zero evidence of Justin Herbert being good in the NFL and crunch time.

[00:35:42] And I'll remind you and I'll remind you what my dad, Josh Kate always says, you know, saying

[00:35:48] like, yeah, you don't have the evidence right now.

[00:35:50] It hasn't happened yet.

[00:35:51] It doesn't mean that it won't happen.

[00:35:53] He's already signed an extension on his deal.

[00:35:55] He signed a 250.

[00:35:57] He had a shitty head coach.

[00:35:59] Oh, I don't care.

[00:36:00] Here we go.

[00:36:01] My bad.

[00:36:02] Cussing YouTube.

[00:36:02] My bad.

[00:36:03] I'm talking about, there's no evidence of Justin Herbert being elite when you needed

[00:36:10] him.

[00:36:10] He had a great rookie year.

[00:36:12] We threw 31 touchdowns.

[00:36:14] Rookie record.

[00:36:15] He's done nothing close to that since.

[00:36:17] That's just a fact.

[00:36:19] So yeah, now he's a game manager and he's 11 touchdowns in one pick.

[00:36:23] That's dope.

[00:36:24] Jamar chase.

[00:36:25] You miss one.

[00:36:26] You're supposed to be in cover three and you think it's covered too.

[00:36:30] And Jamar chase runs right by you.

[00:36:32] And it's a touchdown and a Herbert gets the ball back and you think it dunked a lot

[00:36:37] McConkey and you can get his hands off and you punt and you get a ball back to Joe Burrow

[00:36:42] and you're down 14-0.

[00:36:43] And don't blink because Quentin Johnson's been emerging too.

[00:36:46] You know, so that, so that receiving core is playing a lot better than advertised.

[00:36:51] And you know, Harbaugh is going to play tough football in the trenches.

[00:36:54] So that's why I like the charges.

[00:36:57] Because of the trenches.

[00:36:57] Everybody's going to pick the charges based off the coaches.

[00:37:01] I'm not even picking the charges to do anything.

[00:37:04] I'm just telling you why.

[00:37:05] Like, the reason that I don't believe in them is because just what you just said.

[00:37:10] Harbaugh plays tough.

[00:37:11] Harbaugh doesn't play football.

[00:37:13] Harbaugh calls games.

[00:37:14] The guy on the field that gets the most money has not shown us that he is.

[00:37:20] Yes.

[00:37:20] And they build through the trenches, which is the way to win football games.

[00:37:24] And that's great.

[00:37:26] September through January, early January.

[00:37:30] But when it comes down.

[00:37:30] That plays in February too.

[00:37:31] You think Kansas City wasn't winning on the trenches?

[00:37:34] But they also have a guy that can make plays from the quarterback position when they need it.

[00:37:41] They do.

[00:37:41] They do.

[00:37:42] And I'm not saying that the Chargers are a Super Bowl contender.

[00:37:45] I'm just saying that when they get to the playoffs, I think that they'll be a tough team to beat.

[00:37:50] That's all I said.

[00:37:50] You're turning this into.

[00:37:53] I said that the Chargers are going to dethrone the Chiefs.

[00:37:56] They're going to go to the Super Bowl and dismantle the Lions.

[00:37:59] I didn't say any of that.

[00:38:00] Remember all the conversations around Staley was he went for it on fourth down too much.

[00:38:06] That's very true.

[00:38:08] He called the plays.

[00:38:10] Did Justin Herbert convert those fourth and twos and fourth and fours and fourth and no matter where they were on the field?

[00:38:17] Did he convert them?

[00:38:18] No.

[00:38:20] I get that he had a coach that was a coach.

[00:38:23] What was that?

[00:38:23] Two years ago?

[00:38:25] Last year.

[00:38:26] That was two years ago because last year they weren't even close to the playoffs.

[00:38:29] No, I'm talking about.

[00:38:30] No, no, no.

[00:38:31] No, last year he got hurt.

[00:38:32] No.

[00:38:32] I'm talking about when they called these fourth down plays.

[00:38:36] Well, that's every year.

[00:38:37] I'm talking about just in general.

[00:38:39] Yeah.

[00:38:39] So the argument was that he called too many fourth down plays.

[00:38:44] I get it.

[00:38:44] He did call too many fourth down plays, but Justin Herbert also did not convert them when they were called because if he converted them.

[00:38:52] But see, but that goes back to my point though.

[00:38:55] Like I think that this whole.

[00:38:56] It's more than two.

[00:38:58] All this conversation is, is the whole Joe Burrow spoiled us, Matt Ryan spoiled us.

[00:39:05] So we, so, so if you're a young quarterback and you don't come in right away and gangbusters, then all of a sudden you're just not good at all.

[00:39:13] As once again, you're not going to have a rest of your career.

[00:39:16] No, that's not, that's not the case at all.

[00:39:18] That is the case.

[00:39:19] I said he's played in one playoff game and you're already writing them off.

[00:39:22] I didn't say playoffs.

[00:39:24] I said his entirety.

[00:39:25] I'm just saying in general, I'm just saying in general, the point of this conversation is, do you believe they can make the playoffs or not?

[00:39:32] I don't believe in him because when he had the, he had a great rookie year.

[00:39:40] He hasn't been anywhere close to it since we're calling him a game manager this year after he signed a $250 million.

[00:39:48] He's obviously better than a game manager.

[00:39:50] I'm just talking about the role in the offense that they're playing this year due to the head coach that they have.

[00:39:56] They didn't demote him and say, you know what?

[00:39:59] You suck.

[00:40:00] You're going to throw 13 passes a game.

[00:40:02] Real quick, real quick.

[00:40:04] This I know hypotheticals are like that.

[00:40:05] We hate them.

[00:40:08] But if they would have fired the Cincinnati coach, Zach Taylor, if he would have got fired his offseason.

[00:40:15] And the hardball got hired in Cincinnati.

[00:40:18] Do you think he would have the same offense for Joe Burrow that he does for Justin Herbert?

[00:40:24] They play.

[00:40:25] He doesn't have the offensive line that they have in Cincinnati, but he would try, but he would try, but he would try.

[00:40:31] You think he would have more chase out there.

[00:40:33] You think at this point in the season.

[00:40:36] So what I'm talking about pause right there.

[00:40:38] Pause right there.

[00:40:39] That's part of the problem that you're talking about right there.

[00:40:41] What's the problem?

[00:40:42] They've been in the league.

[00:40:43] Who's the receivers?

[00:40:44] Who's the receivers?

[00:40:47] You said Quinn Johnson was coming on.

[00:40:49] He's emerging.

[00:40:50] He ain't there yet.

[00:40:52] I understand.

[00:40:52] You're comparing Jamar Chase to like the best receiver in the NFL.

[00:40:57] No, I'm talking about the, I'm talking about, I'm talking about the same things that you're talking about.

[00:41:02] You talked about Caleb Williams earlier, and it was about, you know, hey, you got to get this offensive coordinator that'll set them up and do this and blah, blah.

[00:41:11] You know, all that stuff that you said.

[00:41:12] Right.

[00:41:12] And it's absolutely correct.

[00:41:14] You don't say what I'm saying though, is that when you're looking at the best wide receiver in the NFL and you got T Higgins on the other side, you're going to play a little bit.

[00:41:25] You're going to play differently than having Matt McComkey.

[00:41:28] As soon as T Higgins signed that franchise tag, his hands free was never going to be healthy.

[00:41:32] Yeah, you did say that.

[00:41:34] He was not going to play at all.

[00:41:36] Ain't nobody worried about Notre Dame.

[00:41:38] We'll get there in a second though.

[00:41:39] Ain't nobody worried about them.

[00:41:41] I got you, Bushy.

[00:41:42] But it's a belief or not.

[00:41:46] Like the reason I don't believe in the Chargers is I think at, I think that you as a quarterback who's going to command this much of the salary cap, I need to see evidence that says you can carry a team.

[00:42:04] Like you have to be a force multiplier.

[00:42:06] The reason that he is a game manager now isn't because they don't have the wide receivers.

[00:42:11] It's because they know you.

[00:42:14] There's evidence that shows that he needed to be a game manager.

[00:42:17] It's because of the coach.

[00:42:19] Even with the 49ers, they won a playoff game running for 230 yards.

[00:42:23] That's what Harbaugh does.

[00:42:24] Kaepernick was still winging that ball.

[00:42:27] Kaepernick was running that ball.

[00:42:29] That's what he was doing.

[00:42:30] Kaepernick's got a great throw.

[00:42:31] Kaepernick was running that ball all over Lambeau Field.

[00:42:34] That's what he was doing.

[00:42:35] Alex Smith wasn't a great throw.

[00:42:37] You saw what happened when he threw that ball to Michael Crabtree?

[00:42:40] J.J.

[00:42:40] McCarthy was throwing that ball.

[00:42:42] Don't be trying Richard Sherman with those weak-ass receivers.

[00:42:44] You saw that.

[00:42:45] Listen, I get it that Harbaugh is a conservative, smash-mouth coach.

[00:42:50] I'm not.

[00:42:50] Just like J.J. McCarthy.

[00:42:51] We were saying the same things about the same things that we're saying about Justin Herbert

[00:42:55] right now is the same stuff we were saying about J.J. McCarthy last year.

[00:42:59] And last time I checked, that led to a trophy.

[00:43:03] No, but I'm just making the point of J.J. McCarthy is viewed as one of the best quarterbacks

[00:43:08] in this draft.

[00:43:10] I think that got hyped up so they can get drafted.

[00:43:12] I don't think people felt that way about him.

[00:43:14] I think the narrative around quarterbacks is all hyperbole anyway.

[00:43:19] I don't believe most of it isn't really rooted in fact.

[00:43:21] It's mostly rooted in just hype and everything else.

[00:43:25] I like Justin Herbert.

[00:43:26] I think he's good for the Chargers.

[00:43:28] I just don't believe in them as a team because I don't think he has shown the NFL community

[00:43:37] enough that, hey, in crunch time, i.e., all those times that Staley was calling those bad

[00:43:45] fourth and going forward on fourth down.

[00:43:47] I get that going forward on fourth down is bad.

[00:43:49] But the reason it was a big deal is because they weren't getting converted by the quarterback.

[00:43:56] The reason that it was a big deal is because they weren't going for fourth and two at the opponent's 38.

[00:44:03] They were going for fourth and two at their own 25.

[00:44:07] They were going for, they were going that game against the Browns.

[00:44:12] They went forward the fourth down in the Browns got the ball.

[00:44:16] They were already in field goal range.

[00:44:18] No, they were at midfield and the defense stopped.

[00:44:21] I'm like, get it.

[00:44:21] That's field goal range.

[00:44:23] They were on the other side.

[00:44:24] You could have hit 60 yard field goals nowadays.

[00:44:27] That's field goal range.

[00:44:28] He was like 12 to 15 yards.

[00:44:29] I get that.

[00:44:30] I understand that the circumstance around the coach being reckless was detrimental.

[00:44:36] The only reason it was detrimental is because the quarterback wasn't coming through when those

[00:44:41] plays were being called.

[00:44:42] Yeah.

[00:44:42] I understand it.

[00:44:43] I agree with that.

[00:44:44] But I'm just saying that this is a new year.

[00:44:46] You know, this is a new year, a new team.

[00:44:49] That's fine.

[00:44:49] All we have is the past to go off of.

[00:44:52] But I'm just saying that just because I didn't see something happen doesn't mean that it can't or won't.

[00:44:59] I'm not saying it won't.

[00:45:01] You are saying it won't.

[00:45:02] Anyway, let's move on.

[00:45:03] We got other things.

[00:45:04] We got other teams to talk about.

[00:45:06] What about these NFC teams?

[00:45:07] Kurt Cousins in Atlanta.

[00:45:09] Yeah.

[00:45:09] Let's talk about Kurt Cousins.

[00:45:12] I don't believe in him because when it's the same thing.

[00:45:16] When it's crunch time, we have enough evidence to show that during the regular season.

[00:45:21] Yeah.

[00:45:21] You're talking about a dude that's been in the league like 12 years versus a dude that's on year four or five.

[00:45:27] Five.

[00:45:27] Five.

[00:45:28] And this is 2020.

[00:45:29] Kurt Cousins been in here a whole damn near decade longer.

[00:45:32] You made staff five years.

[00:45:33] So, yeah, we really don't believe in Kurt Cousins.

[00:45:35] We ain't got reason to.

[00:45:37] Mike, you're 50 in the Air Force.

[00:45:38] You made staff, right?

[00:45:39] You already had staff on.

[00:45:41] Of course.

[00:45:42] People had already saw you.

[00:45:43] So five years of you going from Maryland to San Antonio and five years of you know what?

[00:45:49] This guy's ready to be a leader.

[00:45:51] He's shown us that over the last four years.

[00:45:53] It's not saying that your responsibility isn't the responsibility of the Masters.

[00:45:57] Hold on.

[00:45:57] Time out.

[00:45:58] As you built up.

[00:45:59] Hold on.

[00:46:00] Time out.

[00:46:00] Time out.

[00:46:01] Let's not go back to the Chargers.

[00:46:02] Just go back to Atlanta.

[00:46:03] Go ahead.

[00:46:03] No, no, no.

[00:46:04] No.

[00:46:04] I'm just saying like Kirk Cousins, the knock on him is that at the five year mark, the seven

[00:46:11] year mark, the eight year mark, he was not getting prime time in big games.

[00:46:14] It didn't change.

[00:46:16] He's a good quarterback, but you would not base.

[00:46:20] You would not take your last $50 and bet it on Kirk Cousins.

[00:46:24] Not at all.

[00:46:25] And that's my guy.

[00:46:26] Not at all.

[00:46:27] And that's my team.

[00:46:28] But it's like I don't have any evidence that says like this last week against the ones.

[00:46:32] I get it.

[00:46:33] It's a rivalry game.

[00:46:34] But I need I have to be honest and like we don't have information.

[00:46:39] What we do have is information says that this guy isn't clutch in these moments.

[00:46:44] But you got a guy like I mean this off topic.

[00:46:47] Daniel Jones.

[00:46:48] Just not a good playmaker.

[00:46:50] Probably bench for the rest of the year.

[00:46:52] If you go to green, if we go to Green Bay, Jordan Love turns the ball over too much.

[00:46:59] Even on even in two years, it's not a knock on him.

[00:47:02] It's just that's what we have.

[00:47:03] It's just the truth.

[00:47:05] It's just the truth.

[00:47:06] So it's not about like a it's just like these are like I have to be if I'm banking on a player.

[00:47:12] Right.

[00:47:14] Jordan Love gives the ball away too much.

[00:47:16] If we go to Washington.

[00:47:18] I like the Latimore acquisition because you talked about their secondary.

[00:47:24] They gave up a lot.

[00:47:26] The right if it were up to me, I would package up Benjamin St.

[00:47:29] Juice in one of those boxes like Garfield used to do.

[00:47:32] Oh, if it was up to me, the valuable force will be somewhere with his thumb out waiting for a bus.

[00:47:37] So that's that's the trust factor there, because your teams are going to find you because you're going to play 17 regular season games.

[00:47:45] That's 17 current games of film.

[00:47:49] Then if you go to what's your Arizona?

[00:47:53] Yeah, I was going to bring them up because that's the Justin Herbert argument.

[00:47:57] Right.

[00:47:57] What is Kyler Murray proved?

[00:47:59] Well, that's the thing.

[00:48:01] Kyler Murray proved that all schedule he can make plays, but it's not a lot of extensive playoff runs.

[00:48:07] Yeah, I was going to say, what do you do in that playoff game?

[00:48:10] This is one thing he has proven.

[00:48:11] He's proven that he doesn't because the knock the people worried about him taking a lot of unnecessary hits because he's so small.

[00:48:20] So look at his career.

[00:48:21] He doesn't take a lot of it.

[00:48:22] He had his no contact injury when he got his ACL and then granted last weekend to do bliss off the edge.

[00:48:27] He didn't see it.

[00:48:28] But for the most part, he's not getting blown up.

[00:48:30] He's not getting hit crazy.

[00:48:32] He's not, you know, he's not like to what diving in the legs and getting concussions.

[00:48:36] So you saw he got kneed in the head last night, too.

[00:48:39] I was like, oh, here we go.

[00:48:41] Here we go.

[00:48:42] I saw him dive.

[00:48:43] Yeah, that's the yeah.

[00:48:45] Yeah, he was going to tackle on the interception.

[00:48:47] Like last week.

[00:48:48] I'm like, yo, you just do you remember this jersey?

[00:48:51] This is right.

[00:48:52] But once again, to you can look at two and say, well, I know he has a history of putting himself position where he gets concussions.

[00:48:59] It's not a knock on these guys.

[00:49:01] It's like that's just the history that comes.

[00:49:03] Yeah. Like I said, a lot of you need to go take it to the crib.

[00:49:05] You know, but the 16 that you mentioned, I don't.

[00:49:10] Well, other than my heart being a Falcons fan, but I don't believe based off of like, like I said with the Chargers and Broncos, I think people are going to believe in them because of the coaches.

[00:49:20] And I get it. The coaches are dope.

[00:49:22] But at the end of the day, Jimmy and Joe have to make plays that has has to have they got to make plays.

[00:49:29] I mean, he's turned the team around and I don't like his ego.

[00:49:32] And I didn't like I mean, I don't like him.

[00:49:36] I don't think I will like him personally.

[00:49:38] But as far as like him putting his stamp on Denver this year, I'll give you that.

[00:49:44] But I even with those years in New Orleans, he didn't have a bunch of great runs in New Orleans.

[00:49:49] Right. Right. Right.

[00:49:50] So we got to we got to look at that history.

[00:49:53] So so out of the NFC teams, you know, I'll start with Green Bay.

[00:49:57] I'm going to try to get this through real quick.

[00:49:59] You know, Green Bay, like we talked about turning the ball over, but they get a lot of turnovers.

[00:50:05] Xavier McKinney's everywhere that the ball is.

[00:50:07] But the problem is, is that you can't rely on force and three turnovers every week.

[00:50:13] So that's why I don't believe in them.

[00:50:14] You know, Atlanta, you know, you already talked about Kirk Cousins.

[00:50:18] We saw what MVS did to them last week, this past weekend.

[00:50:22] So they don't get any pressure on the quarterback either.

[00:50:25] That's been a problem in Atlanta for the last four or five years.

[00:50:28] There's no like even with Judon.

[00:50:31] They can double them and that's the end of the pass rush.

[00:50:33] And I like Arizona on the whole.

[00:50:36] They're too dumb to know that they're not supposed to be here.

[00:50:40] They're too dumb.

[00:50:41] Like, like, you know, their, their, their courage in their heart stands out more than their skill.

[00:50:47] I think about Washington, like, we're not supposed to be here.

[00:50:50] We're playing with house money.

[00:50:51] Yeah.

[00:50:52] You're going to run into, you're going to run into San Francisco that simply knows how to hard count your own force.

[00:50:57] And that's why I like not to be the homer.

[00:50:59] I do not, not to be the homer.

[00:51:01] I do believe in Washington.

[00:51:02] But like you said, like, I just, I'm iffy about rookie quarterbacks, you know, especially as the stages get bigger and the lights get a little bit brighter.

[00:51:12] And that secondary that I just talked about when you got to go up potentially against jerk golf, brought pretty and people like that.

[00:51:19] But, um, what I will do real quick to close this out, you know, saying Thursday night, Washington at Philadelphia, who you got at Philly.

[00:51:33] I'm going to take Philly.

[00:51:35] I mean, they're hot.

[00:51:36] They're seven to two.

[00:51:37] I know we people talk about them and are kind of apprehensive about them as if they're like five and four, but they're seven to two.

[00:51:44] And all of their playmakers are available.

[00:51:48] That's that's that means like we talked about Sirianni is immaturity.

[00:51:52] All the playmakers for Philadelphia are available in every week.

[00:51:58] They show up.

[00:51:59] The Kobe deemed interception, not this past game, but like the week is Jacksonville.

[00:52:04] Yeah, you got Devontae Smith with the one handed catch in the back and end zone.

[00:52:08] We also say Quan what he could do with the ball in his hand.

[00:52:11] Jalen Hurts had four total touchdowns.

[00:52:14] A.J. Brown, like all all of their playmakers are there and they make plays every week.

[00:52:21] Yeah, I'm gonna take Philly as well for most of the same reasons.

[00:52:24] So I'm not going to repeat it.

[00:52:25] But one last question.

[00:52:29] Zach hurts first down or not.

[00:52:35] I didn't even like I was so busy.

[00:52:37] I didn't get to see all the.

[00:52:40] Yeah.

[00:52:42] Oh, there it is.

[00:52:44] You know, say what up lethal nap town in the building.

[00:52:46] You know, I'm saying, but, you know, I, you know, all right.

[00:52:50] I think it wasn't a first down, but it was really close.

[00:52:53] But all right.

[00:52:54] We got that out of the way.

[00:52:55] So let's move on.

[00:52:57] Is it over?

[00:52:58] So, Mr. Logical, I was sitting up here last week having a conversation with you.

[00:53:04] And I said the same thing kind of that I said about Justin Herbert a few minutes ago.

[00:53:08] Right.

[00:53:09] I said, just because Lane Kiffin ain't do it.

[00:53:12] It just means it hasn't happened yet.

[00:53:16] You know, say it.

[00:53:17] And boy, I like how you keep putting the, that extra cheese on your point.

[00:53:23] You know what I'm saying?

[00:53:24] But.

[00:53:24] A little gray hair on top of it, you know what I mean?

[00:53:27] But Georgia ran into a lot of the problems that I thought they would run into.

[00:53:31] They couldn't run the ball consistently.

[00:53:33] Carson Beck, ineffective and turning the ball.

[00:53:35] He only threw one pick.

[00:53:37] But, but if I would have told you, if I would have called you up Saturday.

[00:53:41] And I would have been like, yo, they done hit Jackson Dart on the first two plays of this game.

[00:53:49] On the third play, they hit him.

[00:53:52] He threw a pick.

[00:53:53] He got injured.

[00:53:55] They put in a freshman quarterback to replace him.

[00:53:59] You would have said Georgia 48 to nothing.

[00:54:02] Correct.

[00:54:02] This freshman came in and took Ole Miss down the field and tied the game up.

[00:54:07] That's when I knew it was over because I was like, that's not the Georgia I know.

[00:54:13] That is definitely not the Georgia I know.

[00:54:15] Because I saw what they did to Quinn Ewers had us yelling in here.

[00:54:19] You know what I'm saying?

[00:54:21] Yeah.

[00:54:21] You know what I'm saying?

[00:54:22] I saw what they did to Jalen Milrow in the second half, by the way.

[00:54:26] Shout out to Jalen Milrow top five running back in the country.

[00:54:30] You know, but.

[00:54:31] Poor guy.

[00:54:33] But you know, but when I look at Georgia, it makes me wonder, you know, is it over?

[00:54:43] Because right Nick Saban's gone.

[00:54:45] Now you supposed to be the big bad bully of the block.

[00:54:48] What is the it?

[00:54:49] You talking about their run?

[00:54:51] Like their run being over or this current season being like.

[00:54:54] Their run.

[00:54:57] Well, I mean, when you have a team, when you.

[00:55:00] You can't say their run is over as long as they keep the staff.

[00:55:04] If they keep the staff and they keep the recruits and the money still flowing.

[00:55:08] They're going to be a problem.

[00:55:10] That's the problem.

[00:55:10] The staff, Dan Lanning is coaching the number one team in the country right now.

[00:55:15] Yeah.

[00:55:15] Your staff's going to get vultured.

[00:55:17] And it happened with Alabama too.

[00:55:18] And that's when Nick Saban.

[00:55:19] Well, that's the.

[00:55:20] That's the test.

[00:55:20] Now can you keep it going?

[00:55:22] Yeah.

[00:55:23] Nick Saban switched it up.

[00:55:24] He was a very power run oriented offense.

[00:55:28] You guys got like Ingram.

[00:55:30] You had TJ yelled in.

[00:55:32] Alan Kamara was in the running back room, ended up transferring.

[00:55:35] Derek Henry.

[00:55:36] So it was very run centric with Alabama.

[00:55:39] So a lot of his defensive coordinators and old line guys were being recruited also.

[00:55:44] He's like, cool.

[00:55:44] Let me go get some of these former coaches.

[00:55:48] Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkeesian guys who can really change over my offense.

[00:55:53] It just Kirby Smart has to find a way.

[00:55:56] Okay.

[00:55:56] Do I have the players?

[00:55:58] Do I have the coaches to make another run because you're keeping like they're running

[00:56:03] for the last three years has been legendary.

[00:56:05] It has.

[00:56:06] It's been a one of the lessons.

[00:56:07] Oh, that's that's a class.

[00:56:10] That's a recruiting class that matured sprinkling with some guys that had a couple of rough years.

[00:56:17] And then, you know, that's your Jordan Davis, Carter's, the Kobe Dean's, Swift, you know, all these guys that were there for a while, who didn't have they had their exposure.

[00:56:28] So they had their run.

[00:56:29] I think they're fine, mainly because their recruiting base isn't going to get any.

[00:56:33] They're not going to be devoid of talent in just their state like they can just stop thinking recruit.

[00:56:39] The state of Georgia, South Carolina and Florida and still feel the team that can compete with any team in the country.

[00:56:46] So it's not like USC when USC run was over.

[00:56:50] It's a it's a long way back because so many schools are recruiting California and they're just pulling their talent.

[00:56:57] Yeah, it's not a lot of people.

[00:56:59] Yeah, it's not a lot of people going into Georgia taking prime Georgia talent out of state.

[00:57:07] So as long as they have that, that that.

[00:57:10] But you know what we saw this coming, though, right?

[00:57:12] You know, they had the game against Kentucky every year.

[00:57:15] Like I saw.

[00:57:15] I'm just talking about this season individually.

[00:57:17] Like, you know, they had the 13.

[00:57:19] This is a comfortable playoff opportunities.

[00:57:22] I don't see it.

[00:57:23] And I'm going to ask you to run down your SEC conundrum here in a second as we get to this.

[00:57:29] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:57:30] So so, of course, that running back I was talking about, you know, jail and Milrow, 12 rushes, 185 yards.

[00:57:36] He said, what the hell is a Tiger Stadium?

[00:57:39] That's my house.

[00:57:40] The other night.

[00:57:42] I don't know why Nesma was in the game with 17 seconds.

[00:57:46] I don't know why Brian Kelly was throwing the damn ball so much when Hurricane Raphael was coming through the right shop, you know, but this is what Brian Kelly does.

[00:57:56] And this is the stuff that's going to get him in trouble at LSU.

[00:57:59] I'm not saying he's getting fired or anything like that.

[00:58:01] History is history of primetime performances.

[00:58:04] Some people, it's just, it's really a thing.

[00:58:06] Tom Brady in his NFL career just always seemed to make plays.

[00:58:11] Even sometimes it was luck.

[00:58:13] Sometimes it was cheating.

[00:58:14] A lot of times it was still skill.

[00:58:16] He just see he was just able to make the play.

[00:58:18] Some guys just have it.

[00:58:20] The it factor that they talk about is not bestowed upon everybody who plays or everyone who coaches.

[00:58:26] A lot of people are good.

[00:58:28] Only a handful of people can be great and only a handful of those people can be legendary.

[00:58:32] He's just good.

[00:58:34] Right.

[00:58:34] Good where he goes.

[00:58:36] Right.

[00:58:37] And, and you know, so like, so I've gone through this topsy-turmsy path with Alabama this year.

[00:58:43] You know, they hired Kaelin DeBoer.

[00:58:46] I was on board.

[00:58:47] Hey, they got a great coach.

[00:58:49] This guy's going to win games.

[00:58:50] They start out and get the two losses.

[00:58:53] And, you know, before the season started, I was like, Alabama's not making the playoff.

[00:58:57] You had an eight and four.

[00:58:58] You know what I'm saying?

[00:58:59] I had them at eight and four.

[00:59:00] That's not going to happen now, you know, but, you know, I look at it and I don't see the big trouble that everybody else saw when they lost to Vanderbilt.

[00:59:12] They, they got wrecked that game, but they had the ball 17 minutes to score 35 points.

[00:59:17] Yeah.

[00:59:17] Time of possession.

[00:59:18] That's why I said you run the ball.

[00:59:19] So even with Jalen Miller, just run the ball, control the line of scrimmage.

[00:59:23] And I wonder, but to your point, to your point about the time of possession, I wonder if that's where and why part of the reason we're going to see a lot of these upsets because, you know, now that college football has adopted the running clock in the first half, you know, in third quarter,

[00:59:41] where it only stops the last two minutes of the first half after a first down, but the rest of the time it just runs.

[00:59:50] So I wonder if we're going to see these teams hold on to the ball and just run the ball, eat clock.

[00:59:57] And now this super ranked team, number one, number two or whatever.

[01:00:01] Every time they get the ball, you got to score.

[01:00:04] Like, you know, it adds a different pressure because some of these teams can do it.

[01:00:08] Alabama can do it.

[01:00:09] Ohio State can do it.

[01:00:10] Bama can do it.

[01:00:11] I mean, I had another school in mind, you know, but yeah, Oregon.

[01:00:16] There you go.

[01:00:17] Like Oregon got their 34 year old quarterback.

[01:00:20] So, you know, so you can.

[01:00:22] I think some teams just, I think offensive coordinators, they are enamored with the big play, not the right one.

[01:00:31] And I think a lot of teams are just like, I want to.

[01:00:34] That's what got Miami in trouble the other day because Cam Ward was trying to put on the cape, you know, even when it wasn't necessary.

[01:00:42] Just make a play.

[01:00:43] Just get a first down, build momentum, keep the clock moving.

[01:00:47] Easy play.

[01:00:47] But no, you got to run around, you know, 13 yards side to side, you know, round trip, you know, and then you come back to the pocket, pump fake.

[01:00:56] You don't even take off and run, which is what you can do.

[01:01:00] And then you just throw an interception or throw it out of bounds.

[01:01:03] And it's just like, dude, you just wasted a whole lot of time to do a whole lot of nothing.

[01:01:08] But real quick.

[01:01:09] I mean, 25 for 39, three T's.

[01:01:12] I also, I think this is, I think this is a factor you got to think about as well.

[01:01:19] These guys are 18, 19, 20, 21 years old.

[01:01:24] Oh, good pass.

[01:01:25] Yeah.

[01:01:26] They might have, they might get one or two years to start.

[01:01:30] Some guys might not get that much playing time at all.

[01:01:34] And some guys can be looking ahead, not to like next week, but they can be looking to the future.

[01:01:38] You know, a lot of quarterbacks might try to show, you know what?

[01:01:41] I'm a pocket passer.

[01:01:42] I'm not a runner.

[01:01:44] So I'm going to use this game to showcase my ability to throw from the pocket.

[01:01:49] Some guys you talk about, is it over?

[01:01:51] If you lose a bunch of guys to the transfer quarter, cause you're not willing to cut the check.

[01:01:56] Or if the check, if the price of the brick keeps going up and you're like, you know what?

[01:02:00] I can't keep doing it.

[01:02:01] And then coaches are saying, you know what?

[01:02:03] I'm done.

[01:02:04] You know, just, just like guess who?

[01:02:07] Jay Wright at Villanova and Nick Saban at Alabama.

[01:02:09] It's like, you know what?

[01:02:09] I don't want to deal with this NIL stuff.

[01:02:11] Then I think it could fall apart because guys are still looking out for themselves.

[01:02:15] Cause they're looking around.

[01:02:16] They know Cam Ward's leaving after this year.

[01:02:18] If you're a quarterback, if you're a quarterback at USC, you're not getting any run.

[01:02:22] And you know, Cam Ward's leaving.

[01:02:24] Do you go out?

[01:02:25] You say, you know, I'm putting on a red shirt so I don't get injured.

[01:02:27] Apparently Miller Moss might be on his way to Michigan, you know, by the end of this episode.

[01:02:32] But you know, but as, but you know, looking around the country, you know, Mr. Norville, you know, the fired his coordinators.

[01:02:41] It's like, you're about four weeks too late on that one, Mike, but you know, whatever.

[01:02:45] If you fire the coordinators, if you fire them too early, then if nothing changes, the next course of action is the coach.

[01:02:56] Well, the thing that helps him out.

[01:02:57] Game eight, game nine.

[01:02:59] Well, the thing that helps Mike Norvell out, the thing that helps Mike Norvell out is that Florida State's broke.

[01:03:06] And his buyout is right under 64 million.

[01:03:09] So that might keep them around another year or two.

[01:03:12] They don't got that Texas A&M oil money.

[01:03:14] They got, they got 64 million.

[01:03:17] They got, they got 65.

[01:03:18] They might.

[01:03:20] They're not walking around with a bank account.

[01:03:21] But that's the problem, Raph.

[01:03:23] It's not just the 64 million.

[01:03:24] You got to pay the next coach too.

[01:03:26] Yeah.

[01:03:26] The next coach only getting three and a half million a year.

[01:03:29] Take it.

[01:03:29] No, he ain't not to come there.

[01:03:31] It's your first job.

[01:03:32] You know what I'm saying?

[01:03:32] Because you know, they're going to want the big fish because Mike Norvell came from Memphis.

[01:03:36] They go on a big fish.

[01:03:37] They, they not going to go back to the beyond, you go get one of these coordinators from Georgia.

[01:03:43] Somebody that's charismatic, maybe in their mid thirties, and you can pay him for 4.5, 4.25, four years.

[01:03:50] Yeah.

[01:03:51] And shout out to the UConn.

[01:03:54] Sean Huskies, you know, seven and three on the season.

[01:03:57] Shout out to the Sean Foster.

[01:04:00] I was about to say, what?

[01:04:02] The Sean Foster.

[01:04:03] I saw it in your face when you're about to say, what?

[01:04:06] Three in a row.

[01:04:07] They beat Iowa the other day.

[01:04:09] They're, they might be making a bowl game.

[01:04:11] You know, it didn't look good.

[01:04:12] But as I said earlier, you know, a couple of episodes ago, when you look at UCLA schedule, they already played Penn State, Oregon, and they went to LSU out of conference.

[01:04:24] So we didn't really have a fair gauge on how good or bad they were, because they had to take their lumps against that schedule.

[01:04:32] And now we're starting to see the fruits of the labor, if you will.

[01:04:35] So, you know, but, but yeah, but now let's get to it.

[01:04:39] It's that time of the week, y'all.

[01:04:41] I got it right here in my hand.

[01:04:43] I got it right here in my hand.

[01:04:46] So, Mr. Logical, let me give you, we're going to do, we're going to do it backwards, so to speak.

[01:04:51] All right.

[01:04:52] You know what I'm saying?

[01:04:52] So we're going to start with the bracket first, and then we'll get to the thoughts.

[01:04:58] So, if the playoff were today, here are your matchups.

[01:05:05] The 5-12 matchup would be Ohio State against Boise.

[01:05:11] The winner of that game would play the Hurricanes.

[01:05:15] Okay, hold on.

[01:05:16] I'm trying to get my bracket, but my screen won't load up.

[01:05:19] Yeah.

[01:05:19] I'm listening.

[01:05:20] And you're 8-9.

[01:05:22] You got Tennessee and Notre Dame.

[01:05:24] You know, Notre Dame, shout out, brought up earlier.

[01:05:27] Shout out to Bushy.

[01:05:28] He said that they are the best damn team in the country.

[01:05:32] And you know what, Bushy?

[01:05:33] You are a damn liar.

[01:05:36] You know what I'm saying?

[01:05:37] They are the best damn school in the country.

[01:05:39] I told him I shot him out on the show.

[01:05:42] Best damn school in the country.

[01:05:43] The winner of that game, maybe lethal, maybe.

[01:05:46] We'll get there.

[01:05:47] That's hard to retire Brent Bushy.

[01:05:48] We'll get there.

[01:05:49] You know, the winner of that Tennessee-Notre Dame game would play Oregon.

[01:05:55] So, Notre Dame, even if they got past Tennessee, it ain't lasting very much longer.

[01:05:59] Then you got my favorite of the bunch, the 7-10 matchup.

[01:06:05] Indiana and Alabama?

[01:06:07] It's disgusting.

[01:06:08] I love it.

[01:06:09] The winner gets Texas?

[01:06:11] Give me Texas and Bama in the playoff.

[01:06:14] You know, it just wouldn't be right.

[01:06:16] You know?

[01:06:17] And then, finally, 6-11 Ole Miss is the 11 Penn State.

[01:06:22] The sixth, the winner gets the coons of BYU.

[01:06:27] Those goddamn powered cats from Provo, huh?

[01:06:30] Yep.

[01:06:31] All right.

[01:06:31] So, you ready for the good news?

[01:06:33] Here you go, lethal.

[01:06:35] You know what I'm saying?

[01:06:36] Since Iowa State lost their second straight game last week, it means Colorado is in sole

[01:06:46] possession of second place in the Big 12.

[01:06:50] So, handle your business.

[01:06:52] You'll be up in Jerry World playing for the conference title.

[01:06:57] Probably against BYU.

[01:06:58] They got Utah this week coming in.

[01:07:02] Go Utes.

[01:07:03] You know?

[01:07:04] They go play Kansas at Arrowhead.

[01:07:07] And they close the season with an Oklahoma State team that doesn't want to play football

[01:07:11] anymore.

[01:07:12] Yeah, half that team probably already in the transfer portal.

[01:07:15] It's right on the table for Colorado to get to the Big 12 championship game.

[01:07:20] And that gets them...

[01:07:23] So, they win the Big 12.

[01:07:24] Three field goals though, Bushy?

[01:07:26] Yeah.

[01:07:28] Yeah.

[01:07:29] This is a hypothetical matchup, sir.

[01:07:32] He's a good point.

[01:07:34] 22 to nine.

[01:07:35] And it's hypothetical.

[01:07:36] You know, but...

[01:07:37] But yeah, so Colorado, you know, is on their way potentially as long as they don't slip

[01:07:42] up.

[01:07:43] And they were somewhere in that middle...

[01:07:46] They'd be...

[01:07:46] As the Big 12 champ, are they automatically one through four or are they five?

[01:07:50] Well, that's what I was going to ask you.

[01:07:51] That's actually one of the questions I was going to ask you.

[01:07:53] Is it possible that Boise, even as a G5 conference champion, is it possible that they could get the

[01:08:01] four seed?

[01:08:05] I think the answer is yes, but it just depends on...

[01:08:08] That's madly possible or the committee making a decision to make a four?

[01:08:12] No, I think things have to happen.

[01:08:13] So, let's go with it.

[01:08:14] Colorado, you know, they...

[01:08:16] Right now, they're number 17.

[01:08:19] You know, they come through and beat BYU in the Big 12 title game, but they're a two-loss team.

[01:08:26] Right?

[01:08:27] So, like, yeah, they're the conference champion, but they're a two-loss team.

[01:08:30] You know, and conspiracy brain, check me out, Mike.

[01:08:35] Conspiracy brain, you know what I'm saying?

[01:08:37] You know what I'm saying?

[01:08:37] If Colorado gets the four seed, they get a first round bye.

[01:08:42] But I want to milk that cow.

[01:08:44] You know what I'm saying?

[01:08:45] You're playing in the first round, just so we can get these...

[01:08:48] Oh, you think you put him at five just to get him in the first round?

[01:08:50] Well, no, Notre Dame's going to probably be five, but yeah.

[01:08:53] Or I should say the highest Notre Dame can go is five.

[01:08:56] I'll say that.

[01:08:57] I think that five is probably going to be the loser of one of the championship games.

[01:09:04] So, either the SEC or the Big 10, probably the Big 10, just based on records.

[01:09:11] I can't see Boise State getting in the top four because the committee...

[01:09:16] Like I said, the committee...

[01:09:18] What you give the committee is ingredients.

[01:09:21] Mm-hmm.

[01:09:22] You can give ingredients to how do you make a great ribeye, sauteed mushrooms, and mashed potatoes.

[01:09:29] And everybody's going to give their particular recipe.

[01:09:33] All these pundits are going to say, I think this team should be here.

[01:09:36] And these pundits, CBS is going to say this, and Fox is going to say this.

[01:09:40] And the committee is going to go, all right, who do we want to see play football this week?

[01:09:45] Who do we want to give a bye to?

[01:09:47] I don't see Boise State getting that level of respect.

[01:09:50] Well, so like I said, chaos, right?

[01:09:54] So, there's your Colorado scenario.

[01:09:57] But, hypothetically, what if Colorado loses a game in between now and then?

[01:10:04] You know, they don't make the Big 12 championship game.

[01:10:06] Your Big 12 championship game is BYU against T-Loss.

[01:10:09] I still see a way...

[01:10:11] I still...

[01:10:12] I can almost bank.

[01:10:14] I'm willing to bet on the committee finding a way to get any other four teams one through four before they put Boise State.

[01:10:23] And, and, or, you know, you got the ACC out there, right?

[01:10:29] You know, Miami just lost this weekend.

[01:10:31] You know, so now that ACC championship game, if it happens, is Miami against SMU.

[01:10:38] You know, both one-loss teams.

[01:10:40] And, hold on, and you still got Clemson.

[01:10:43] You still got Clemson out there with one conference loss.

[01:10:46] They play Pitt this weekend.

[01:10:48] So, hypothetically, Clemson gets through.

[01:10:53] SMU loses a game.

[01:10:55] They don't make the title game.

[01:10:56] We're back to Miami versus Clemson in the ACC title game.

[01:11:00] But, here's the wrench.

[01:11:04] Clemson loses to South Carolina before the ACC championship game.

[01:11:10] So, they win the ACC with three losses.

[01:11:15] I still think that the committee will find a way to argue that the ACC run and losing to an SEC school that beat whomever on the road that was ranked this makes it more difficult than Boise State.

[01:11:31] Whatever it is, Boise State...

[01:11:33] I just figured not asking.

[01:11:35] Not from a talent perspective, not from a record.

[01:11:38] I just think that, like I said, the committee will take all the available teams.

[01:11:42] Okay.

[01:11:43] Probably at the end, we'll probably be around 16 teams.

[01:11:46] I think if you're lucky, we're on 16.

[01:11:49] Not necessarily the top 16, but I think there's going to be 16 total teams vying for the 12 spots.

[01:11:56] And they're going to be able to articulate a way to where these four teams didn't make the cut.

[01:12:03] Either Clemson...

[01:12:04] Say SMU and Miami play in the ACC championship, and Clemson is sitting out there with the one loss.

[01:12:11] But because of tiebreakers, they don't play in the ACC championship.

[01:12:16] I still think there's a way where they don't get in.

[01:12:20] And the argument is, well, they didn't play in their conference championship.

[01:12:26] Okay.

[01:12:26] So like each...

[01:12:28] We'll go back to the prime example last year.

[01:12:31] Florida State...

[01:12:31] There's no reason Florida State at 13-0 as a power five conference champion should not have been in the 14th playoff.

[01:12:37] But they're like, yeah, you're not your starting quarterback.

[01:12:39] They're like, well, we got this guy that started the last few games and we won those.

[01:12:44] Yeah, but that guy doesn't play as well on TV as the other ones.

[01:12:48] We don't think he matches up the way.

[01:12:50] We don't want another Georgia TCU team.

[01:12:52] Right.

[01:12:53] All right.

[01:12:54] So with that being said, you know, now if Washington State...

[01:12:58] I'm going to take an ugly detour for a second.

[01:13:01] If Washington State can win out, now we put the committee on the spot.

[01:13:05] You know, because right now in front of Washington State, you got Colorado, Kansas State, A&M, SMU, Boise, and Georgia.

[01:13:14] So that's your 17 through 12, Washington State's at 18.

[01:13:18] You know, if Washington State wins out and some of these teams falter, could Washington State get in as an at-large?

[01:13:25] I'm going to say no.

[01:13:27] Is it Washington State?

[01:13:29] Yeah.

[01:13:30] I'm going to say no, but you're looking at an 11-1 team.

[01:13:34] They lost to Boise.

[01:13:36] Their best win is Texas Tech.

[01:13:38] What's your 10-2 SEC school in that set?

[01:13:40] All of them!

[01:13:42] Then one of them gets...

[01:13:43] There's our segue.

[01:13:45] All of them.

[01:13:46] Yeah.

[01:13:46] So like you're 11-1 every other conference.

[01:13:50] Okay, Big Ten, SEC, let's go ahead and write off a committee exemption.

[01:13:57] We already know it.

[01:13:59] Let's save our outrage.

[01:14:01] We know it's going to be some skullduggery.

[01:14:06] We're all going to be gobsmacked when the results come out.

[01:14:09] Save our outrage.

[01:14:11] The SEC and the Big Ten will seem to have some kind of waiver that we don't know about that the other conferences won't get.

[01:14:20] Okay.

[01:14:21] So a 10-2 Big Ten school or a 10-2 SEC school will get in over 11-1 Washington State.

[01:14:30] Hell, an 11-2 WAC champion.

[01:14:35] It's all these other like little caveats.

[01:14:38] You know the WAC don't exist no more.

[01:14:40] Don't be opening those old wounds.

[01:14:43] You know your Army, Navy, we're going to want it.

[01:14:46] We're going to think it's patriotic.

[01:14:48] But like I said, we're going to go back.

[01:14:49] We can look at the last couple of years.

[01:14:52] Georgia TCU, that blowout, that didn't look good when people were changing the channel.

[01:14:57] And Florida State not having their starting quarterback last year.

[01:15:00] So 11-1 and other conferences, you're going to need some help.

[01:15:05] 10-2 Big Ten, 10-2 SEC.

[01:15:09] One of each is going to get one.

[01:15:12] Okay.

[01:15:13] All right.

[01:15:13] Don't look now, Mike, but we got a tie game in the Champions Classic.

[01:15:17] You know, but here we go.

[01:15:19] So this is the doomsday scenario.

[01:15:22] So, you know what I'm saying?

[01:15:23] I'm going to try to walk this through.

[01:15:24] If I make a mistake, I'm sorry, but I'm going to walk this through.

[01:15:28] I'm going to answer your question after, Lethal.

[01:15:30] Here we go.

[01:15:31] Here we go.

[01:15:33] So, this is what you're saying.

[01:15:35] Like Mike is setting this up.

[01:15:36] There is a scenario to where every top SEC school finishes the SEC schedule of two losses, right?

[01:15:44] Correct.

[01:15:45] That's just okay.

[01:15:46] This is...

[01:15:47] All right.

[01:15:47] All right.

[01:15:48] So, here we go.

[01:15:49] And then I got you, Lethal.

[01:15:50] You know, all right.

[01:15:51] So, right now, as we sit here today, Tennessee and A&M are 5-1 in the SEC.

[01:15:57] Texas is 4-1.

[01:15:59] Georgia is 5-2.

[01:16:01] Ole Miss, Alabama, Missouri, and LSU are all 3-2.

[01:16:08] Right?

[01:16:08] So, let's walk with it.

[01:16:10] So, Georgia beats Tennessee this weekend.

[01:16:13] Again, this is all hypothetical.

[01:16:15] I'm not making picks.

[01:16:16] Georgia beats Tennessee this weekend.

[01:16:19] That gives Tennessee their second SEC loss.

[01:16:22] Okay?

[01:16:24] A&M falters along the way.

[01:16:26] Let's call it Auburn.

[01:16:28] You know, they already lost to South Carolina, so let's not make it seem like they're a juggernaut.

[01:16:32] All right?

[01:16:33] So, A&M gets their second SEC loss.

[01:16:36] But then they turn around Thanksgiving weekend and beat Texas.

[01:16:41] So, that's your Texas with two losses.

[01:16:44] Alabama's already played Missouri and LSU.

[01:16:48] Missouri doesn't play any of the teams that I just named.

[01:16:52] Right?

[01:16:53] They played A&M already, but they don't play anybody else that I've named in this scenario yet.

[01:16:58] But, LSU beat Ole Miss.

[01:17:01] So, Ole Miss beat Georgia.

[01:17:04] You know?

[01:17:05] So, then you come back down and you look at it.

[01:17:08] Tennessee doesn't play any of these teams left.

[01:17:12] They beat Alabama already.

[01:17:14] Alabama beat Georgia.

[01:17:16] Who the hell wins the tiebreaker?

[01:17:21] Just flip the coin.

[01:17:22] You know what I'm saying?

[01:17:23] But, to answer your question, Lethal.

[01:17:25] Right.

[01:17:25] And I'll put it on the screen so Mr. Logical can see it.

[01:17:28] So, at the beginning of the season, my national title game was Ohio State over Georgia.

[01:17:34] And Mr. Logical had the reverse, if I remember correctly.

[01:17:37] Georgia over Ohio State.

[01:17:38] Yeah.

[01:17:39] So, as we sit here in this moment, if it was up to 2-5, the national title game that I would have,

[01:17:45] and this is where I'm nasty, y'all.

[01:17:47] I get real nasty with it.

[01:17:49] My national title game that I would love to see would be Indiana against Colorado.

[01:17:56] That's the national title game I want to see.

[01:17:59] You know what I'm saying?

[01:18:00] I want to see the crazy chaos scenario.

[01:18:04] Oh, my God.

[01:18:05] The transfer portal is awful.

[01:18:07] It broke the sport.

[01:18:10] Or, if I could find a way to do it, and this is for you, Bushy, if I could find a way to do it,

[01:18:17] if I could get Miami and Notre Dame in the national title game, Catholics against Convicts.

[01:18:24] Give me that.

[01:18:26] I was going to go Catholics versus Mormons in the religious bowl.

[01:18:32] No, I don't want BYU to do a damn thing.

[01:18:34] But just lose.

[01:18:37] Just lose.

[01:18:38] It's a lot of tattooed players on BYU.

[01:18:40] That shocked me.

[01:18:44] I didn't think you guys were with that, but I guess, you know, football and rules are, you know, fluid.

[01:18:49] Yeah.

[01:18:50] I think if we go chalk a situation where you get Texas and Ohio State, I think that would ring bells.

[01:18:59] I think people would love to see that.

[01:19:02] The chaos element.

[01:19:07] I don't think Notre Dame has enough to get to the national championship, especially if they have to play multiple games leading up to it.

[01:19:15] Watching my Wildcats, y'all.

[01:19:16] Yeah.

[01:19:18] But this current bracket, I'd take a, this would be dreadfully boring.

[01:19:27] Out of the bracket that we're going to.

[01:19:30] Oregon to Indiana, I think would be boring.

[01:19:33] But I'd take, you know what, I just keep it simple.

[01:19:35] I'd go one, two.

[01:19:36] I'd go Texas versus Oregon.

[01:19:38] I think that's a likely scenario.

[01:19:41] Out of the bracket we have right now.

[01:19:44] And I think that was both teams that have been number one this year.

[01:19:48] Just looking at this bracket as is, I think I might like Oregon and Ole Miss.

[01:19:55] You know, so looking at the playoff rankings, SMU is the first, or Georgia is the first team out.

[01:20:02] SMU is the second team out.

[01:20:04] So it's all in front of SMU.

[01:20:06] They got a favorable schedule to get to the ACC title game.

[01:20:09] You know, maybe beat Miami or Clemson to get there, you know, to get to the playoff.

[01:20:14] So, there we go.

[01:20:16] You know what I'm saying?

[01:20:17] It's so late.

[01:20:19] I don't, I guess I will see at the end of this year.

[01:20:22] That's a lot of football games for college football players.

[01:20:28] It's a lot.

[01:20:29] And I get that they're young and they have opportunities, but you're playing 13.

[01:20:36] Like that's why I said it's probably great to be a big 10, third in the big 10, third in the SEC, and maybe a one loss third in the ACC.

[01:20:49] Because that way you only play 12 games.

[01:20:54] You get, you get a buy.

[01:20:57] The championship games happen and then you get the potential of being in the college football playoffs, which gets you, because you got one, two, three, four, four board games.

[01:21:12] So, you get that minute, you get your second buy.

[01:21:15] You let these other teams, but you let SMU battle out with Miami and your Clemson sitting there just waiting.

[01:21:22] But see.

[01:21:23] When they battle out, you get just, you get your spot because, you know, like, you don't have, like this year you got like Notre Dame that's doing probably better than people expected.

[01:21:33] I don't, if they keep this format out, I don't think that's going to be the case every year where like they're going to kind of play themselves out.

[01:21:40] Yeah.

[01:21:41] In my perfect world, and I'm sure, and I'm sure lethal, and I'm sure lethal will agree with this.

[01:21:48] Two weeks from now or yeah, two weeks from now, because Indiana's got a buy this week.

[01:21:53] So next week they go to the big house or not.

[01:21:56] I'm sorry.

[01:21:57] I done fucked up.

[01:21:58] My bad.

[01:21:59] Y'all don't kill me.

[01:21:59] Y'all they go to Columbus.

[01:22:01] They go to the horseshoe.

[01:22:02] There you go.

[01:22:03] I had to get my nickname right.

[01:22:04] They go to the horseshoe and they play Ohio State.

[01:22:07] If Indiana wins that game, you ain't never seen a coach as successful as Ryan Day get escorted out of town.

[01:22:18] He's on the bus that day.

[01:22:20] They don't have to sneak them under the stadium.

[01:22:22] Because with that loss, if that happens, they don't even get the big 10 championship game.

[01:22:27] So, you know, so like, I'm just saying, like, I ain't trying to put the juju out there.

[01:22:31] I'm just saying.

[01:22:33] You just, you know, you got to win that game.

[01:22:37] And then you got Penn State creeping, you know, waiting for Ohio State to lose a game.

[01:22:42] Like I said, Penn State's going to be in the proverbial catbird seat because I think they might sit around and end up third.

[01:22:48] Like they might be that situation.

[01:22:49] I'm talking about.

[01:22:50] They might end up the five seed.

[01:22:52] They might end up the five seed.

[01:22:56] But like I said, you still get that mini by because as it plays out, if Oregon.

[01:23:02] No, here we go.

[01:23:06] Ole Miss, they play a grueling SEC schedule.

[01:23:10] They're in at 11.

[01:23:11] That means they're going to play in order to stay.

[01:23:14] They're probably going to have to play in the SEC championship.

[01:23:19] Maybe Tennessee's probably going to end up playing as far as this bracket is kind of set up.

[01:23:22] Well, hold on.

[01:23:23] Before you say that, I will have you know that Niko.

[01:23:28] Or Texas or Tennessee might end up playing an SEC championship game.

[01:23:32] That's 13 games.

[01:23:33] And then you make the playoffs.

[01:23:34] It's four more games in the championship.

[01:23:37] I will have you know that Niko, or if you talk the cups, Niko, leave your mama.

[01:23:45] You know, he's in concussion protocol right now.

[01:23:48] And Chris Felica, a.k.a.

[01:23:51] The Bear, if you remember him from college game day, he's on Fox now.

[01:23:56] According to him, sounds like Niko's out for this Georgia game this weekend.

[01:24:00] So we at least potentially if that happens.

[01:24:03] In the way in the hell, somebody will give him the answers to that test.

[01:24:06] Yeah, but if he doesn't play.

[01:24:10] If he doesn't play, we get the first leg of that doomsday scenario for the SEC.

[01:24:18] But you know, yeah.

[01:24:19] So I'm excited.

[01:24:20] You know, 12 team playoff.

[01:24:22] Let's go.

[01:24:23] All right.

[01:24:23] So before we get out of here, we got a couple more things we want to get to.

[01:24:26] So I was going to talk about some coaches that I believe are in trouble.

[01:24:32] You know, I was listening to.

[01:24:33] Yeah, I was listening to Ari and Andy Staples on on three today.

[01:24:40] And they may or Andy Staples made the comment that he thinks that the over under for coaches getting fired this year.

[01:24:48] In the power for should be two.

[01:24:51] And I was like, I don't know, though.

[01:24:54] There's a lot of coaches out here.

[01:24:56] In the power?

[01:24:57] In the power conferences.

[01:24:58] Yeah.

[01:24:58] I'm like, there's a lot of coaches out here.

[01:25:01] The SEC, Big 12, Big 10.

[01:25:02] Yeah.

[01:25:02] Yeah.

[01:25:03] Yeah.

[01:25:04] I'll take that bet.

[01:25:05] Yeah.

[01:25:05] He said two would be the over under.

[01:25:07] So when I look at this, I'm going to just take it from the top alphabetical order.

[01:25:11] This is not an order of who should get fired when or whatever.

[01:25:14] This is just alphabetical order.

[01:25:15] So I'm going to start with the ACC.

[01:25:17] Obviously, we talked about Mike Norvell earlier.

[01:25:20] You know what I mean?

[01:25:21] But they got 64 million reasons not to fire Mike Norvell.

[01:25:25] You know, so we're going to take it to Virginia Tech and Brent Prye.

[01:25:29] Last year, you know, they went six and seven.

[01:25:34] They had all the talent coming back.

[01:25:35] We talked about it.

[01:25:36] 22 returning players and everything.

[01:25:39] And people had them as a contender.

[01:25:42] People had them as a contender in the ACC.

[01:25:45] So losing season the first year.

[01:25:49] Just because of the expectation, I'm going to put them on the hot seat.

[01:25:52] You know, just because of the expectation this year.

[01:25:55] Because like there were people, there were people that he doesn't have a big buyout.

[01:25:59] But there was people that had Virginia Tech in the playoff.

[01:26:04] They were predicting that.

[01:26:05] So, you know, so you got to pay for that.

[01:26:08] Justin Wilcox.

[01:26:09] But next year, not this year, next year.

[01:26:11] He's the head coach at Cal.

[01:26:13] We talked about him as well in the offseason where he just gets the defense.

[01:26:17] He's playing.

[01:26:18] But Cal's sitting here one and four in the ACC.

[01:26:21] They lost, you know, their four ACC games by a combined nine points.

[01:26:26] You know, but he's been there.

[01:26:28] He should be good then.

[01:26:30] All right.

[01:26:31] It's time for change.

[01:26:32] No, no, no.

[01:26:33] I said next year though.

[01:26:34] Not right now.

[01:26:35] Yeah.

[01:26:35] I'm just saying next year, I think he starts on the hot seat.

[01:26:38] If he can keep his talent, those guys kind of remember the losses from this year.

[01:26:41] They can grow.

[01:26:42] I think, I think he, I think they can play his way off the hot seat.

[01:26:45] Like if I, when you said four points, you said nine.

[01:26:49] I thought you were going to say like 90.

[01:26:52] No, no, no, no, no.

[01:26:54] We said nine.

[01:26:55] I'm like, I should be good to go.

[01:26:56] But you know how it is.

[01:26:57] You said day and age.

[01:26:58] And then I think Matt Brown is going to step down at North Carolina.

[01:27:02] You know, like after the James Madison game where they gave up 70, you know, Virginia for you.

[01:27:08] You know, they gave up 70 to James Madison.

[01:27:10] He gave the speech like y'all don't want me to be here.

[01:27:13] Like, you know, is that like he already got a foot out the door anyway.

[01:27:16] You know what I'm saying?

[01:27:17] So Mike Gundy going to keep them.

[01:27:22] That's actually my next coach.

[01:27:24] You know what I'm saying?

[01:27:25] So we're going to go to the big 12.

[01:27:27] Mike Gundy in year 20.

[01:27:30] So he's the second highest tenured coach in the country.

[01:27:34] And I got number one on my list too.

[01:27:36] But, uh, so Mike Gundy, 20 years at Oklahoma State.

[01:27:39] You would think he played there.

[01:27:41] He was the quarterback of the Barry Sanders team when they, when Barry Sanders broke the single season record.

[01:27:46] So you would think that he would be in a position of you can leave when you want to leave.

[01:27:51] You know, you leave like almost Bobby Bowden status, but without the championships, of course.

[01:27:57] But they went to the big 12 championship game last year.

[01:28:00] They came into, had Ollie Gordon, the leading rusher, 1732 yards.

[01:28:04] And guess what?

[01:28:05] Ashton Gentry as of right now has 1734.

[01:28:08] Just throwing that out there.

[01:28:09] But anyway, so Ollie Gordon has been a shell of himself this year.

[01:28:13] Allen Bowman, who we talked about 15 touchdowns, 14 interceptions last year.

[01:28:18] Looks like that again.

[01:28:20] Looks worse.

[01:28:21] Been benched a few times.

[01:28:22] So at this point, is it time?

[01:28:25] You know, maybe they give him another year just because of his stature, but 20 years.

[01:28:30] But I say they might get some boosters to raise some money and get them up out of there this year.

[01:28:36] Oh, yeah.

[01:28:36] Well, money was just to do the stadium named after.

[01:28:39] Yeah. Boom Pickens.

[01:28:40] Boom Pickens.

[01:28:41] Yeah.

[01:28:42] Rest in peace, you know, but Neil Brown at West Virginia, you know, he's got two straight wins.

[01:28:47] That might save him, but he comes into every year on the hot seat.

[01:28:51] He's 35 and 33 in six years at West Virginia, five and four this year.

[01:28:56] You know, I got my eye on that.

[01:28:59] Kyle Whittingham, you know, Utah.

[01:29:01] Obviously, he's not going to get fired, but I think he steps down.

[01:29:04] He said that he wasn't going to coach past 65.

[01:29:07] I believe he's 65 right now.

[01:29:09] And they've already named the head coach and waiting defensive coordinator, Morgan Scali.

[01:29:15] And then one more for the big 12, probably next year, though, Gus Malzahn.

[01:29:21] You know, the former Auburn coach that's from Arkansas.

[01:29:24] But there's the drama because of Sam Pittman gets fired at Arkansas.

[01:29:29] Gus Malzahn is an Arkansas boy.

[01:29:31] He might come in there.

[01:29:32] He might come in there.

[01:29:34] And if West Virginia fires Neil Brown, he was a high school coach.

[01:29:38] Yeah.

[01:29:39] Yep. Yep.

[01:29:40] And if you, it's a documentary on Netflix about that.

[01:29:42] Yeah.

[01:29:43] And if you pay attention to Neil Brown, like I brought up and they do fire him.

[01:29:49] We might have the return of Jimbo.

[01:29:53] And West Virginia.

[01:29:54] Hey, he's a West Virginia kid.

[01:29:56] But he made the comment when we remember, we talked about that.

[01:30:00] Does the Texas A&M check stop if he gets another job?

[01:30:03] Because I think that's how it works in the NBA.

[01:30:05] Like they'll pay you.

[01:30:06] But once you take on a new coaching job, I think the obligation to pay.

[01:30:10] I don't think that's a thing.

[01:30:12] You can't have like, it's like a conflict of interest being paid by two organizations.

[01:30:16] Maybe that could be a thing, but I'll have to research that.

[01:30:20] I don't know if that was a thing or not.

[01:30:21] But he's a West Virginia kid.

[01:30:24] Right?

[01:30:25] Yeah.

[01:30:25] Something like that.

[01:30:26] He's a West Virginia kid.

[01:30:28] And when he was still the active coach of Texas A&M, he made the comment about,

[01:30:33] you always want a coach at home.

[01:30:35] So I'm just throwing that out there.

[01:30:37] You know what I'm saying?

[01:30:38] Just throwing it out there.

[01:30:39] You know what I'm saying?

[01:30:40] Big 10.

[01:30:42] You know, Ryan Walters at Purdue.

[01:30:44] Get him out of here.

[01:30:45] You know, five and 15.

[01:30:47] Only been two seasons.

[01:30:48] But you look across the state to Bloomington and see what's going on at Indiana.

[01:30:53] Then you turn around and you go, you lost to Notre Dame 66 to seven.

[01:30:57] Who the hell let Notre Dame score 66?

[01:31:00] But then again, Florida State gave up 52 the other day.

[01:31:03] So, you know, I ain't going to go too far with that one.

[01:31:07] But you know, they beat Indiana State.

[01:31:10] And then they pretty much lost out since then.

[01:31:13] They got shut out by Oregon.

[01:31:15] Shut out by Ohio State last week, 45 to nothing.

[01:31:18] And oh, by the way, Penn State is coming into West Lafayette this weekend.

[01:31:22] And you close the season with Indiana.

[01:31:24] Get them out of here.

[01:31:25] You know, Mike Loxley, one of those Nick Saban tree guys that never get mentioned

[01:31:30] because all we talk about is Sark and Lane Kiffin and all these guys like that.

[01:31:35] But Mike Loxley is a part of that tree as well.

[01:31:38] You know, he's 33 and 38 at Maryland.

[01:31:41] 15 and 32 in the Big Ten.

[01:31:45] 15 and 32.

[01:31:46] You got Michigan State this year hired a new coach.

[01:31:49] They're in the dumps, if you will.

[01:31:51] Indiana then Rose.

[01:31:53] Rutgers came up a little bit.

[01:31:55] Maryland can't rise.

[01:31:56] And I'm the armor university.

[01:31:59] You know, Michigan State is paying a hell of a buyout to their guy.

[01:32:02] Cause I think he's a male Tucker.

[01:32:04] Yeah.

[01:32:05] No, talk.

[01:32:05] Yeah.

[01:32:05] I think he signed a hundred million dollar deal.

[01:32:08] Everyone when he, when I saw it, I was like, yeah, his was five years.

[01:32:11] 95. Yeah.

[01:32:12] Yeah. I was like, that's, that's a bad deal.

[01:32:15] Yeah.

[01:32:15] And done anything.

[01:32:16] It's that point.

[01:32:16] He didn't, he, he hadn't done 95 million dollars with the work yet.

[01:32:21] In my opinion.

[01:32:23] You see this.

[01:32:25] Lethal wallet.

[01:32:27] Um, so, so the MO for Maryland is usually, usually they start out with a very soft schedule,

[01:32:35] you know, so they start off five and one six and oh, and then they go six and six or seven

[01:32:41] and five, eight and four.

[01:32:42] Everything's good.

[01:32:43] Cause they get the big 10 schedule.

[01:32:45] Right.

[01:32:46] On the back end.

[01:32:46] So, so get them out of here.

[01:32:48] Um, Kirk Ferentz.

[01:32:50] I wonder, this is not a thing, you know, he might not be on the hot seat, but I'm just

[01:32:54] wondering, you know, he took over in 1999.

[01:32:58] It was in the year that I graduated high school.

[01:33:00] He took over then.

[01:33:02] And remember last year we had the, we had to keep track.

[01:33:05] Can his son 20 point.

[01:33:07] Yeah.

[01:33:08] Yeah.

[01:33:08] As the office of coordinator, they called it the drive to three 25.

[01:33:12] If they could score 325 points in that season, his son would keep the job as offensive coordinator.

[01:33:18] They didn't he's gone.

[01:33:20] So now that the sun is gone.

[01:33:21] That I literally, if I'm sitting in that meeting, I'm not even agreeing to that.

[01:33:28] I'm like, no, but I wonder if he's gone.

[01:33:31] Like that's, that's a childish thing to do to a romantic.

[01:33:34] Listen, if you don't like not either fire me or let me do my job.

[01:33:40] Or Hey, kind of parameters that don't exist in any other, any other facet in, in anybody's contract.

[01:33:46] Does the defensive coordinator have that kind of stipulation?

[01:33:49] And then of course there's, there's Ohio state, right?

[01:33:53] You know, if Ohio state loses their first playoff game is Ryan day out of there.

[01:34:00] I just don't know what the expectation is of Ohio state.

[01:34:04] The expectation is we need to hoist trophies like we in the sec.

[01:34:08] No, I get that part. I get that part.

[01:34:10] I get the expectation to want to win.

[01:34:14] Who is your replacement?

[01:34:18] Reuben Meyer ain't coming back.

[01:34:20] We ain't getting Nick Saban.

[01:34:21] You're not getting the guy from Indiana.

[01:34:23] You're not getting Dan Lanning from Oregon.

[01:34:26] You're not getting, uh,

[01:34:31] Hey, you, you, you, you, you know what Bushy?

[01:34:33] I'm gonna tell you like this.

[01:34:35] Notre Dame is talented.

[01:34:37] I love Marcus Freeman and I, and I wish him well, even though I hate Notre Dame with every fiber in my being, but, but I'll give you this.

[01:34:46] You know, they, they probably have a top five defense in the country, so they can stay in playoff games.

[01:34:53] Riley Leonard is a giraffe, but don't come in here talking about a team that lost the Northern Illinois at home.

[01:35:01] Listen, everybody, every team lose.

[01:35:04] They lost, but I thought they were gonna lose the Navy.

[01:35:08] That was my thing.

[01:35:09] I thought they were gonna lose the Navy.

[01:35:10] Uh, and they gutted it out.

[01:35:12] They might lose the Army.

[01:35:13] Cause I told you when they played each other, I told you, I thought Army had the better chance, but hey, Kentucky Wildcats broke the curse.

[01:35:21] Finally beat Duke again.

[01:35:23] All right.

[01:35:24] So back to this real quick.

[01:35:26] Yeah.

[01:35:26] The Ryan, the Ryan Ohio State fans want to get rid of Ryan.

[01:35:29] Dave blows my mind.

[01:35:30] I just want him to stop dying his hair and his beard.

[01:35:33] Just stop.

[01:35:34] I thought about it.

[01:35:36] Don't do it.

[01:35:37] I thought about it, man.

[01:35:38] Listen, let it go.

[01:35:39] Just let it go.

[01:35:40] I was like, I can go from, I can go from Fred Sanford to LL real quick.

[01:35:45] You know what I'm saying?

[01:35:45] You saw in too deep.

[01:35:46] I could be God.

[01:35:48] You know what I'm saying?

[01:35:48] But anyway, anyway,

[01:35:54] Luke Fickle over at Wisconsin, you know what I'm saying?

[01:35:58] They did.

[01:35:58] They did.

[01:35:59] All that is true.

[01:36:00] All that is true.

[01:36:01] But I'll take losing the Vandy and UK over losing the Northern Illinois.

[01:36:06] I'll take that over losing to a Mac team on my home field where I scored 14 points.

[01:36:10] I'll take that, you know, but Luke Fickle, you know, over at Wisconsin, he came in from Cincinnati,

[01:36:18] first G5 team to make the 14 playoff only one.

[01:36:21] He came into Wisconsin, and then he did the dumbest thing that you could possibly do.

[01:36:26] He went and got North Carolina at the time, their offensive coordinator.

[01:36:30] And he said, you know what?

[01:36:32] Let's go run and shoot at Wisconsin.

[01:36:36] It don't work like that.

[01:36:38] You got to recruit it.

[01:36:40] It don't work like that.

[01:36:41] Who are you recruiting to Wisconsin?

[01:36:43] Who are you recruiting to Madison, Wisconsin?

[01:36:45] You definitely ain't getting a bunch of 280-pound offensive linemen that can pull and rent screen.

[01:36:50] You ain't going into Georgia and Florida to get them.

[01:36:53] You know, Notre Dame and Ohio State and Michigan going to block you in Chicago.

[01:36:58] You know what I'm saying?

[01:36:59] I mean, I guess Milwaukee better have some talent.

[01:37:03] You better go get some 330s from the farms of Nebraska and Iowa and Wisconsin, some of these dairy farmers kids, and get you some big backs from Milwaukee that used to run the track.

[01:37:16] And just say, we're going to open up this hole, you're going to run through it.

[01:37:19] Got it.

[01:37:19] Well, Luke Fickle has a chance this weekend to get off of my hot seat.

[01:37:27] They got Oregon coming into Camp Randall.

[01:37:31] You know, they played Penn State tough a couple of weeks ago.

[01:37:34] Oregon coming in with their 34-year-old Heisman candidate quarterback.

[01:37:39] Let's see what happens.

[01:37:41] Let's see what happens.

[01:37:41] And then finally, in the SEC, I'm not putting Lincoln Riley on there just yet.

[01:37:46] Maybe next year if it starts off bad next year.

[01:37:50] But, oh, speaking of which, by the way, USC Nebraska this weekend in the how far have they fallen bowl game.

[01:38:00] You know, Nebraska, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago.

[01:38:04] Matt Rule brought in Dana Holgerson to be an offensive analyst.

[01:38:10] He's been promoted to offensive coordinator.

[01:38:13] So, there you go.

[01:38:15] So, now I ain't putting him on the list yet, Lethal.

[01:38:17] You know, because he, I'm sure he has a hell of a buyout as well.

[01:38:21] You know, so we'll see.

[01:38:22] Matt Rule, Matt Rule.

[01:38:24] No, no, Lincoln Riley.

[01:38:26] Lincoln Riley?

[01:38:27] Yeah, he ain't going nowhere.

[01:38:29] You know what I'm saying?

[01:38:29] Because if nothing else, Lincoln Riley is going to get you a quarterback.

[01:38:33] So, like, he ain't going nowhere unless he takes an NFL job.

[01:38:37] Unless they fire Ryan Day and that's the phase for the Ohio State.

[01:38:42] Hey, there you go.

[01:38:43] Like, that's the only, like.

[01:38:45] He's a bigger choker than Ryan Day is.

[01:38:48] At least Ryan Day saved the playoffs.

[01:38:50] Yeah, but he said, King Prince.

[01:38:54] They don't want the King off with his head.

[01:38:57] Let's go to Southern California and grab the Prince.

[01:38:59] Yeah.

[01:39:00] All right, then finally the SEC.

[01:39:02] Sam Pittman, 28 and 29.

[01:39:05] You know, in five seasons, this is the death knell.

[01:39:08] They went out and they got Bobby Petrino to come back as offensive coordinator.

[01:39:13] You know who had Bobby Petrino as their offensive coordinator last year?

[01:39:21] Jimbo Fisher.

[01:39:22] So is it the curse of Petrino?

[01:39:26] I mean, he's a terrible, terrible coach.

[01:39:28] So Pittman did, to his credit, they gave Tennessee their only loss so far this year.

[01:39:36] So you got to give them credit for that.

[01:39:38] But in their last couple of home games, they lost by 24 to LSU.

[01:39:42] They gave up 63 to Ole Miss.

[01:39:47] And oh, by the way, you got the Longhorns coming in this weekend.

[01:39:52] You know what I'm saying?

[01:39:53] But I'm going to put some money on Arkansas to cover the 16 and a half.

[01:39:57] That's an early one for you.

[01:39:58] Just because like we talked about, right?

[01:40:00] Like Arkansas wants to beat Texas more than they want to win.

[01:40:04] So going into Vietnam, it's going to be rough for a few quarters for Texas.

[01:40:09] It's going to be a slow start.

[01:40:10] But you got that right there.

[01:40:12] You got Billy Napier.

[01:40:13] I know they came out and gave him the vote of confidence the other day.

[01:40:17] But then he turned around and lost by 32.

[01:40:20] Now, granted, I know your quarterback was hurt.

[01:40:24] So I don't want to blame you for that.

[01:40:26] But this is the thing.

[01:40:27] You got LSU coming up.

[01:40:29] You got Ole Miss.

[01:40:31] You better not lose the Florida State.

[01:40:33] You better not.

[01:40:34] You have four games next year.

[01:40:36] Okay.

[01:40:37] I can roll with that.

[01:40:38] I can roll with that.

[01:40:39] I think the vote of confidence is kind of predicated on whatever class they got going in,

[01:40:44] whatever funds they have allocated for NIL.

[01:40:47] Oh, Ryan Day.

[01:40:49] My bad.

[01:40:50] I had it written down.

[01:40:51] I forgot to say.

[01:40:52] You asked it.

[01:40:53] I forgot.

[01:40:53] Ryan Day's buyout is 37 million.

[01:40:56] Oh, that's doable.

[01:40:57] Yeah, that's doable.

[01:40:59] Yeah.

[01:40:59] I wrote a couple of these now, but I just didn't say them.

[01:41:02] Yeah.

[01:41:02] I don't know why they want him out of town so bad.

[01:41:06] I don't know.

[01:41:07] But so Billy Napier's buyout is 26 million.

[01:41:11] Kirk Ferentz's is 31.

[01:41:14] A couple of guys that I ain't get to yet.

[01:41:17] We'll get there though.

[01:41:18] So, Hugh Freeze over at Auburn.

[01:41:22] You know, this is year two.

[01:41:24] He was supposed to turn it around.

[01:41:26] Auburn has a quick trigger.

[01:41:27] We remember that.

[01:41:29] Yeah.

[01:41:29] I was going to mention that.

[01:41:31] I was like, why?

[01:41:33] Why they they're in that position because you keep firing coaches.

[01:41:38] Yeah, they're they're right now.

[01:41:39] In addition to Hugh Freeze, they're paying.

[01:41:41] They were paying Malzahn.

[01:41:44] They were paying Brian Harsin, who was the coach from Boise that they just fired.

[01:41:50] And they were paying on a third one.

[01:41:54] I can't think of his name, but they were paying three different head coaches, you know, so.

[01:41:59] Right.

[01:42:00] So Hugh Freeze.

[01:42:01] I can't.

[01:42:01] Oh, that name is going to bother me for the rest of the night.

[01:42:03] So Hugh Freeze, you know, his bio is only 20 million, which is what Malzahn's was.

[01:42:09] It was 21.

[01:42:10] And that at the time.

[01:42:11] Think about this rap that at the time.

[01:42:13] That was the highest buyout that a school had ever paid.

[01:42:17] 21.

[01:42:18] 21.

[01:42:19] You know what I mean?

[01:42:20] Brent Venables over at Oklahoma.

[01:42:24] You know, if he had their first losing season since 1998.

[01:42:29] They won 10 games last year.

[01:42:31] You know, you remember all offseason I was talking about.

[01:42:35] I just don't see it in Jackson Arnold.

[01:42:37] I just don't see what they see in Jackson Arnold.

[01:42:39] He got benched.

[01:42:40] He's back.

[01:42:42] So they are four and five.

[01:42:47] Let me double check that.

[01:42:49] Let me double check that.

[01:42:51] So so so basically what I'm trying to get at is.

[01:42:55] They're five and five.

[01:42:57] So here we go.

[01:42:59] Tommy Tuberville.

[01:43:00] Yeah, that might be up.

[01:43:02] Tommy Tuberville.

[01:43:02] Yep, that's it.

[01:43:03] All right.

[01:43:04] So so here we go.

[01:43:05] So Oklahoma.

[01:43:06] This is why I bring this up because he had the first losing season they had since 1998.

[01:43:12] Right now they are five and five.

[01:43:14] They closed the season at LSU in Holston, Alabama.

[01:43:20] They gonna make a bowl game.

[01:43:22] No, no.

[01:43:23] So I think he's gone, you know, but if he is gone, his buyout is 44 million.

[01:43:29] Because for some reason, when he won the 10 games last year, they decided to give him an extension.

[01:43:37] You know, Notre Dame did that with Charlie Weiss back in the day, you know, the Bush push game.

[01:43:42] And they gave him like a 10 year extension after that.

[01:43:46] For a game that they lost.

[01:43:47] Cause they thought it was a.

[01:43:50] Notre Dame Bushy.

[01:43:53] You know what I'm saying?

[01:43:54] Um, then you got, uh, to keep the SEC going, Mark Stoops, Kentucky.

[01:43:59] Normally I would not have him on this list because he's a pretty good coach.

[01:44:05] You know, he's brought Kentucky from the doldrums, you know, at least to the middle.

[01:44:11] But remember, he took that A&M job last year.

[01:44:17] And then the fans revolted and A&M pulled out and when it got Paul's and when it got Mike Elko.

[01:44:24] So Mark Stoops, you know, sitting at Kentucky right now, they played the close game against Georgia, but they lost the Vandy.

[01:44:33] They're three and six right now to include one and six in the SEC.

[01:44:39] So if you're going to take another job, you got to come back and win some games, baby.

[01:44:44] Yeah, you should have taken that job.

[01:44:45] You got to come back and win some games.

[01:44:46] You know what I mean?

[01:44:47] So his buyout is 44 million as well.

[01:44:50] You know what I'm saying?

[01:44:51] And then, so those are my power coaches and just real quick, a couple of G5 names for you.

[01:44:56] You know, Kenny Burns at Kent State, worst job in the country.

[01:44:59] You can't win there.

[01:45:01] You know, once LeBron start dumping that NIL into Akron, they going to take off way past Kent State.

[01:45:07] You know, Trent Dilfer at UAB.

[01:45:10] You know, we talked about him a few times this season and how he was shitting all over the school.

[01:45:15] Yeah, his ego is doesn't match his performance.

[01:45:20] Yeah, Mike New at Ball State over in Muncie, Indiana.

[01:45:25] Shout out to Mike Wilson.

[01:45:26] You know, his baby girl go there.

[01:45:28] You know, Stan Drayton at Temple.

[01:45:31] And you already got Will Hall out at Southern Miss, Mike Houston at East Carolina, Mike Bloomgren at Rice,

[01:45:36] and Brian Bohannon at Kennesaw State.

[01:45:39] They can't fire all these guys.

[01:45:41] No, I'm not saying that.

[01:45:43] No, no, all those dudes I just named all are fired already.

[01:45:46] You know what I mean?

[01:45:47] Like the last one, two, three, four, the last four are fired already.

[01:45:52] You know what I'm saying?

[01:45:53] So there you go.

[01:45:54] So then real quick, before we get out of here, before we get out of here, you know what I'm saying?

[01:45:59] And we just wanted to take a few seconds because tonight is the beginning of an event that is going to electrify the world.

[01:46:07] The most electrifying thing that we've seen since The Rock.

[01:46:12] I present to you the NBA Cup.

[01:46:16] NBA Cup.

[01:46:18] Where the ugly courts are reigning supreme.

[01:46:21] I like the courts.

[01:46:23] And teams are wearing colors that ain't even a part of their uniforms.

[01:46:27] I like the court.

[01:46:28] I like the uniforms.

[01:46:29] I like the uniforms.

[01:46:30] I don't like the courts.

[01:46:31] I like the court the most.

[01:46:34] Like, I think that was the thing that caught my eye the most last year.

[01:46:37] I like the idea of the NBA Cup.

[01:46:39] Like I said, it's just something else to keep it interesting because you got to keep in mind.

[01:46:43] We're in the throes of college and NFL football right now.

[01:46:49] NBA needs something to kind of still be a factor as we transition to January.

[01:46:56] We're looking at these bowl games.

[01:46:58] The championship game is going to be sometime in January.

[01:47:01] And then the NBA is going to have that to the all-star game.

[01:47:05] And then the playoff run.

[01:47:07] So you figure, you know what?

[01:47:08] We'll sprinkle in something new.

[01:47:10] Something different.

[01:47:12] Something that you could talk about on the tail end of your football conversations.

[01:47:16] Very similar to what we're doing here.

[01:47:17] So if you're thinking about podcasts that kind of talk about multiple sports.

[01:47:21] It's a good conversation to have.

[01:47:23] Or if you actually have NBA podcasts.

[01:47:25] Instead of talking about what trade this ex-championship team needs to make.

[01:47:30] Secure this guy's legacy.

[01:47:33] You could talk about who do you think is going to win the cup.

[01:47:39] I think it's going to be one of these young teams that's bringing some veterans a team like a Detroit.

[01:47:44] I will say.

[01:47:45] Or something like that.

[01:47:46] This is my problem with the NBA and the NBA Cup.

[01:47:51] Draymond's trying to bring back brawls.

[01:47:53] You know what I mean?

[01:47:53] But this is my problem with the NBA Cup.

[01:47:56] You've got to advertise it better.

[01:47:58] So I know we've seen commercials.

[01:48:00] We knew it was happening.

[01:48:01] Probably didn't know the dates really.

[01:48:03] But we knew it was happening.

[01:48:06] The reason that I said what I just said.

[01:48:10] Is because you got Klay Thompson going back to the bay tonight.

[01:48:16] Currently in progress.

[01:48:18] Golden State 72-66 over the Mavericks.

[01:48:20] But you know like.

[01:48:22] Why was that game not front and center of the NBA Cup?

[01:48:25] Like why was that game not pushed in that way?

[01:48:29] But we'll get back to that.

[01:48:31] The NBA Cup in my opinion.

[01:48:34] Should be a launch pad for new stars to appear.

[01:48:37] Last year we saw Tyrese Halliburton.

[01:48:40] Announce himself to the world before he got injured.

[01:48:43] And he hasn't been the same since.

[01:48:45] You know, but it gave us a preview because they were walking all over the Milwaukee Bucks.

[01:48:51] During that NBA Cup last year.

[01:48:53] So this is what I was thinking.

[01:48:56] You know saying.

[01:48:57] And I know we're talking about pool play.

[01:49:00] But I think I would like to see it.

[01:49:02] Mr. Logical.

[01:49:03] I think I would like to see it.

[01:49:05] Mixed where like the pool is contains East and West teams from the standpoint of.

[01:49:12] The East and West teams only play each other twice in the regular season.

[01:49:16] So you figure this is another opportunity to get some West teams to play in the East.

[01:49:21] Yeah.

[01:49:22] Get a star somewhere.

[01:49:23] Get LeBron to Chicago or something.

[01:49:26] You know, like.

[01:49:27] More games.

[01:49:28] You know, an additional game in Orlando.

[01:49:30] Yeah.

[01:49:30] Something along those lines.

[01:49:32] You know what I mean?

[01:49:32] And I know maybe there's a travel thing that we're considering here.

[01:49:36] I doubt it.

[01:49:36] But there might be.

[01:49:38] Because.

[01:49:39] Because you're.

[01:49:39] You're.

[01:49:40] You're somewhat extending.

[01:49:42] You know, I guess you're not really extending the season.

[01:49:44] You just kind of.

[01:49:45] You're throwing like a.

[01:49:46] Another.

[01:49:50] You're asking the players for this participation.

[01:49:54] So you figure.

[01:49:56] Let's keep it.

[01:49:57] As simple as possible.

[01:49:59] To where.

[01:50:00] You're only playing.

[01:50:01] In your time zone.

[01:50:03] You know what I mean?

[01:50:03] Right.

[01:50:03] So it's like.

[01:50:04] We're asking you to put extra effort in this.

[01:50:06] Because we were begging you to put effort in the all-star game.

[01:50:10] And you haven't.

[01:50:11] Right.

[01:50:11] Well, at least.

[01:50:12] Let's dangle a trophy out there.

[01:50:14] Let's give you a championship night in Vegas.

[01:50:16] Let's.

[01:50:16] Let's give you something.

[01:50:18] But we'll keep it as simple as possible.

[01:50:20] That way.

[01:50:21] It's in the confines of the season.

[01:50:23] It's not in addition to the season.

[01:50:25] Yeah.

[01:50:26] And you know.

[01:50:27] But.

[01:50:27] But that was.

[01:50:28] The reason that I brought that up.

[01:50:30] Is because like.

[01:50:30] This does count as a part of the regular season.

[01:50:33] Minus the championship game.

[01:50:35] You know.

[01:50:35] But the.

[01:50:36] But the thought behind it was.

[01:50:38] You know.

[01:50:39] Take.

[01:50:46] They played five times last year.

[01:50:48] So.

[01:50:49] They're already going to play five times.

[01:50:51] You know.

[01:50:52] It also sets up the actual playoffs too.

[01:50:54] Because if.

[01:50:55] If.

[01:50:56] The Clippers drop the game to Orlando.

[01:50:59] There's no tiebreaker implications to it.

[01:51:01] Or at least not the initial level.

[01:51:04] But if the Clippers drop a game to the Nuggets.

[01:51:07] Then that can matter in the Western playoffs.

[01:51:10] Right.

[01:51:11] So it's like.

[01:51:11] You want to.

[01:51:12] You want to put as much emphasis on.

[01:51:15] Future expectations as well.

[01:51:16] Like listen.

[01:51:17] We don't want you to throw this game away.

[01:51:18] Because.

[01:51:19] Memphis doesn't care about the game against.

[01:51:23] Chicago.

[01:51:23] Because it doesn't affect their playoff seeding.

[01:51:25] So you can rest John Morant.

[01:51:27] Right.

[01:51:27] Where if you're playing New Orleans.

[01:51:29] It's like.

[01:51:29] You guys tend to be around that six, seven, eight range.

[01:51:32] Do you want to be in the.

[01:51:34] You want to play hard for this tournament.

[01:51:36] Or you want to be in the play in.

[01:51:38] In April.

[01:51:38] When you got to play a couple extra games.

[01:51:41] Right.

[01:51:41] I think that's probably.

[01:51:42] That probably ties into it.

[01:51:44] So then you got the money.

[01:51:45] Right.

[01:51:46] The winner gets $500,000 per player.

[01:51:50] The runner up gets 200,000.

[01:51:53] If you get to the semifinal.

[01:51:55] A hundred thousand per player.

[01:51:57] And then the quarterfinal 50,000 per player.

[01:52:00] You know.

[01:52:01] And.

[01:52:02] The chips in Vegas.

[01:52:03] Right.

[01:52:03] So.

[01:52:03] Yes.

[01:52:04] So.

[01:52:04] So when you look at it.

[01:52:06] You know.

[01:52:07] Last year we ended up with Lakers.

[01:52:09] And Pacers.

[01:52:10] This year I'm going to go Warriors and Knicks.

[01:52:12] You know.

[01:52:13] But I look at it.

[01:52:15] And I ask myself.

[01:52:17] Can we add something to this tournament.

[01:52:20] That.

[01:52:22] Might make it a little bit more.

[01:52:26] I don't want to say competitive.

[01:52:28] But you know.

[01:52:29] But just have that extra sauce to it.

[01:52:31] You know.

[01:52:31] I think the money in a trophy.

[01:52:34] In the middle of the season.

[01:52:35] I don't know what else.

[01:52:36] Like.

[01:52:37] Well.

[01:52:37] I think.

[01:52:37] Well I think the money.

[01:52:40] You know.

[01:52:40] Matters.

[01:52:40] As far as like.

[01:52:42] Say you're a team like the Pistons.

[01:52:44] Hypothetically.

[01:52:45] And you go on a run.

[01:52:46] You know.

[01:52:47] You know.

[01:52:47] You're Jaden Ives.

[01:52:48] You know.

[01:52:49] You're.

[01:52:50] A sword Thompson.

[01:52:51] Who hasn't played.

[01:52:52] You know.

[01:52:52] A lot this season.

[01:52:53] Because of the blood clots.

[01:52:54] But.

[01:52:55] That 500,000.

[01:52:57] Could mean everything to them.

[01:52:58] But I don't know if.

[01:53:00] Anthony Davis is really.

[01:53:01] Splitting.

[01:53:02] I mean.

[01:53:02] 500,000.

[01:53:03] I mean.

[01:53:03] You want.

[01:53:04] As far as like.

[01:53:05] If you're the NBA.

[01:53:06] Like what else would you.

[01:53:07] Like what else could you.

[01:53:08] I was thinking.

[01:53:09] I was thinking.

[01:53:10] And I don't like it.

[01:53:11] I don't like it.

[01:53:13] I don't.

[01:53:14] I don't like the idea that I came up with.

[01:53:16] But it was the only thing that I could really think of.

[01:53:18] Because I didn't want to do the whole.

[01:53:21] Thing baseball used to do.

[01:53:22] Where like.

[01:53:23] You know.

[01:53:23] I hate it though.

[01:53:25] Yeah.

[01:53:25] I don't want to do that.

[01:53:26] I'm in a world series.

[01:53:27] Home field advantage.

[01:53:28] I'm like.

[01:53:28] That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[01:53:30] I can't believe they signed off on it.

[01:53:31] For the amount of years that they did.

[01:53:33] So what if I.

[01:53:35] Gave the winner.

[01:53:39] A randomized draft pick.

[01:53:45] What do you mean.

[01:53:47] So either.

[01:53:48] So when I originally thought about this.

[01:53:50] I thought.

[01:53:51] Like yo.

[01:53:52] You can have the number 31.

[01:53:54] You know there's 30 teams.

[01:53:55] You can have the number.

[01:53:56] Add a pick at the end of the first round.

[01:53:58] But then I was like.

[01:53:58] Like that doesn't really incentivize.

[01:54:00] That's not going to.

[01:54:01] You know.

[01:54:01] What player you will get at number 31.

[01:54:04] That makes it worth it.

[01:54:05] So.

[01:54:06] Just a lottery ball.

[01:54:08] Like.

[01:54:08] Put the.

[01:54:08] One through 30.

[01:54:10] Shake it up.

[01:54:11] So you just.

[01:54:12] You figure they get a couple of lottery balls in with the other 14 teams.

[01:54:16] Yeah.

[01:54:17] But what if they end up in the lottery.

[01:54:19] But I don't think.

[01:54:20] But see.

[01:54:20] The only problem is the players wouldn't care about that.

[01:54:25] I'd say you give them like a 2% bump in their salary cap.

[01:54:31] I mean that could be a thing.

[01:54:33] You know what I mean.

[01:54:33] You give them.

[01:54:34] You give them like.

[01:54:35] An exemption to.

[01:54:37] To like cut a player.

[01:54:38] Oh I don't know.

[01:54:39] I just.

[01:54:40] I just.

[01:54:40] Like.

[01:54:41] Without given.

[01:54:42] Without given.

[01:54:43] An unfair advantage.

[01:54:45] To the winner.

[01:54:48] Any.

[01:54:48] Like.

[01:54:48] Like.

[01:54:48] I can't imagine anything that you could really.

[01:54:52] It's like.

[01:54:53] No time off.

[01:54:54] Because.

[01:54:55] You still need them to play games.

[01:54:58] No.

[01:54:59] Like.

[01:54:59] Votes.

[01:55:00] Like no.

[01:55:00] You get a couple extra.

[01:55:02] All NBA votes for your star player.

[01:55:05] So that wouldn't work.

[01:55:06] But hey.

[01:55:07] The NBA Cup got off to a hot start tonight.

[01:55:10] You know.

[01:55:10] You had the Hawks beat the Celtics.

[01:55:12] You had the Pistons beat the Heat.

[01:55:15] You know.

[01:55:15] You had the Magic beat Charlotte with no bad Carol.

[01:55:19] You know.

[01:55:20] Like.

[01:55:20] You got Clay against Golden State right now.

[01:55:23] Portland is up 15 on the Timberwolves right now.

[01:55:26] These teams have come to play.

[01:55:29] I think it's just basketball.

[01:55:31] Yeah.

[01:55:31] It's just basketball.

[01:55:32] Yeah.

[01:55:35] Like.

[01:55:36] My thing is like.

[01:55:36] I'm glad it's not separate from the regular season.

[01:55:39] I'm glad.

[01:55:40] Right.

[01:55:40] And that's what I thought it was going to be when he originally announced.

[01:55:43] 90 total games.

[01:55:44] Right.

[01:55:45] Two games count.

[01:55:46] Because the eight would have been throwaways.

[01:55:48] I think.

[01:55:48] I think as far as generating interest.

[01:55:52] And generating something new.

[01:55:54] This is probably.

[01:55:56] A lot of sports new stuff that I don't like.

[01:55:59] Like I don't like the new NFL kickoff.

[01:56:01] I don't care what they say about it.

[01:56:03] I don't.

[01:56:03] I don't like that either.

[01:56:04] I don't like it.

[01:56:05] I don't think it's as a.

[01:56:06] I hope Polish doesn't adopt it.

[01:56:08] I hope they don't either.

[01:56:11] I.

[01:56:12] I.

[01:56:12] I.

[01:56:12] Like I said.

[01:56:13] I didn't like the.

[01:56:14] The MLB all-star game.

[01:56:16] Right.

[01:56:16] This was a while ago.

[01:56:17] I'm really still not a big fan of the pitch clock and throwing the ball.

[01:56:21] Like.

[01:56:21] The game takes how long the game takes.

[01:56:24] Like.

[01:56:24] I like the pitch clock.

[01:56:27] I like the bigger bases.

[01:56:28] You know.

[01:56:29] Encouraging people to steal more bases.

[01:56:31] I like that.

[01:56:31] But.

[01:56:33] But the baseball was in a different position because the NBA is popular and it's international.

[01:56:38] Whereas baseball, I think, was trying to find ways to get.

[01:56:42] I think baseball was trying to find ways to entertain their current fan base because the pitch clock didn't draw.

[01:56:50] Then bring people in.

[01:56:52] I think it was a piece like the.

[01:56:53] The hundred thousand people that they surveyed were a hundred thousand baseball fans that go to games all year long.

[01:57:00] This is what they wanted.

[01:57:01] I don't think they cared about the million people who might want to watch a baseball game.

[01:57:06] Okay.

[01:57:06] That's fair.

[01:57:07] Like.

[01:57:08] We'll take these hundred thousand people that are going to buy tickets coming to the game.

[01:57:11] This is what they want to see.

[01:57:11] The NBA is constantly trying to come up with new ways to get new fans.

[01:57:16] I'm like.

[01:57:16] You're a global brand.

[01:57:18] Well, that's why I.

[01:57:19] What you gonna be able to do.

[01:57:20] You're going to showcase your current players and help these teams that are always at the bottom.

[01:57:27] Well, I think.

[01:57:28] Well, I think after this year, you know, we're going to get the announcement on Seattle and Vegas, you know, joining the NBA again, or at least they are Seattle joining again in Vegas.

[01:57:38] You gonna move New Orleans and Memphis to the east?

[01:57:41] I don't know.

[01:57:42] You know what I'm saying?

[01:57:42] Probably.

[01:57:43] Probably.

[01:57:44] Maybe Minnesota.

[01:57:45] It makes the most sense.

[01:57:46] Yeah.

[01:57:46] Maybe even.

[01:57:47] Yeah.

[01:57:48] I mean, but but but but I hope that it expands not the league as far as teams.

[01:57:53] I don't want that.

[01:57:54] But as far as this tournament, you know, he's been talking about potentially going to Europe and having teams in Europe.

[01:58:01] I don't know how that's going to work.

[01:58:02] But at all.

[01:58:03] But this is an American sports state.

[01:58:06] And I don't know.

[01:58:06] And I don't know as far as you to go.

[01:58:07] Don't go to Mexico either.

[01:58:08] And I don't know what rules exist and how this would work.

[01:58:12] But, you know, I would like to see, you know, the cup to include other teams, but then that would take away from the regular season.

[01:58:21] Like if you went out and got me real Madrid or, you know, some other team across seas that that champions of what that could be your summer league.

[01:58:32] That's a great idea.

[01:58:33] But see what I'm saying?

[01:58:34] Like you call me Adam.

[01:58:36] Call Mr. logical Adam.

[01:58:37] You do your summer league with the draft with the your top 10 draft picks.

[01:58:43] And then you have them as a team.

[01:58:46] Maybe throw a couple of college players like a Cooper flag and then you get one of the flag down tonight.

[01:58:53] Yeah.

[01:58:54] Well, yeah, I like I said, I think the NBA is like, I believe they're sitting around thinking they have a problem that they don't.

[01:59:01] Right.

[01:59:02] And they're there.

[01:59:04] Or this is based off a problem.

[01:59:06] Like, I don't know.

[01:59:06] They're just they just want to have a problem.

[01:59:09] You have is a branding problem.

[01:59:12] Because as all the channels that play your games, they only talk about the teams that are going to be popular no matter what.

[01:59:21] Like the Lakers are in L.A.

[01:59:23] They have probably one of the most recognizable people on earth playing on the team.

[01:59:30] They have some of his most historical players.

[01:59:33] But you have Jordan, your global icon for so many years.

[01:59:39] They don't talk about Chicago.

[01:59:41] They don't put Chicago on TV enough.

[01:59:43] It's not highlighted enough.

[01:59:44] Orlando's up and coming team.

[01:59:46] You got Charlotte with, you know, you got the middle balls.

[01:59:49] One of the most polarizing young number five score in the league right now.

[01:59:52] It's like, that's the part they need to have these meetings about.

[01:59:56] Like, yeah, how do we get how do we get the conversation around the Lakers conversations always going to be up here?

[02:00:04] It's always going to be on everybody's mind.

[02:00:06] Even the Clippers can't compete with the Lakers.

[02:00:10] But Steve Ballmer is like, you know, I'm going to spend enough money to where these Lakers Clippers matchups.

[02:00:16] The crowd is 50 50.

[02:00:18] It's not 80 percent Laker fans, 20 different Clipper fans.

[02:00:22] And then I'm like, you know what?

[02:00:22] I'm a buy my own stadium.

[02:00:24] So he took the model of I'm going to highlight my team.

[02:00:28] I think the NBA needs to find a way to highlight their other teams in that same.

[02:00:34] Right. And right now, like just right now. Right.

[02:00:36] You know, we got the Cavs undefeated.

[02:00:39] You know, tonight, Boston, you know, last year they went, what, 64 and 18, 64 and 18, something like that.

[02:00:46] They're not in three right now.

[02:00:47] They've already lost three games.

[02:00:50] You know what I mean?

[02:00:51] Like you got teams like the Pistons in the nets who were supposed to be at the bottom of the league.

[02:00:57] Yeah, they're under 500, five and six and five and seven, you know, but if the playoffs started today, I mean,

[02:01:04] I know it's early, but they would be in, you know, talk about how teams are improving, you know, and then, you know, you look at the West, you know, the Suns are would be the number one seed right now.

[02:01:16] You know what I mean?

[02:01:17] Even though Kevin Durant is.

[02:01:18] Yeah.

[02:01:18] So if you look at the Christmas Day schedule, they're trying to highlight it.

[02:01:23] But once again, but the season is already two months old at that point.

[02:01:28] You got San Antonio versus New York.

[02:01:30] So that's attempting to get would be on the big stage.

[02:01:35] Minnesota, Dallas.

[02:01:37] That's a good matchup.

[02:01:38] You have a lot of personality there between Kyrie, Luca, rematch of the Western Conference Finals,

[02:01:42] the Western Conference Finals, Ant-Man, the stifling defense, Sixers, Celtics.

[02:01:49] That's not really shaping up to be a great game considering the injuries.

[02:01:53] And like I said, you and I talked about it.

[02:01:55] The Sixers might be around 12 and 18, 13 and 17 at the 30 game mark.

[02:02:02] Then you got Lakers, Warriors, Nuggets, Suns.

[02:02:05] So like these are already teams that we're going to see anyway.

[02:02:08] Right.

[02:02:09] They need another day like NBA Saturday where you have Charlotte, Orlando, Detroit versus Chicago.

[02:02:18] Just just have it deliberately.

[02:02:20] Like I know the NBA Christmas Day schedule.

[02:02:23] Most people are off all day, but just throw it up there on a Saturday.

[02:02:27] Everyone's not watching college football.

[02:02:29] So you got to like have this other like the other guys like, you know, we'll start the welfare.

[02:02:34] And, you know, Mark Wahlberg, you got to have the other guys showcase them.

[02:02:37] And that way, when these Christmas games come around, you don't have to just hope that this small market team gets a generational talent like Wimby to put on TV.

[02:02:48] 100 percent.

[02:02:50] You know what I'm saying?

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