#sportsreportsasordered - FALSE PRETENSES
Sports Reports As OrderedOctober 30, 2024
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#sportsreportsasordered - FALSE PRETENSES

The NBA hits Philadelphia where it hurts. (01:00) Should Anthony Richardson have been benched? Are the Bengals/Dolphins done for? (18:34) Does Ohio State's stinker give the guys reason to pause, and now there is ONE undefeated team in the SEC. (54:17) The guys share their perception on baseball and it's popularity. (122:13)

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[00:00:06] Yes, you are now listening to the sounds of Sports Reports As Ordered.

[00:00:13] You're an unorthodox statistician, 2-5, and if you look across from my name, you can see how I feel right now.

[00:00:20] You know what I'm saying? F. Aaron Rodgers, that's the anthem for 2024.

[00:00:25] And I got with me, the even-killed, born in Texas, raised in the VA, representing New Jerusalem.

[00:00:31] He said y'all can't even be friends if you ain't got no Bon Jovi in your ride.

[00:00:35] Can't do it though.

[00:00:39] Don't bring feelings to a fact fight. He is Mr. Login.

[00:00:47] Yes, sir. We're going to talk about Joel Embiid. We're going to talk some NFL. We're going to talk some college football.

[00:00:53] And of course, we're going to talk some baseball. Yes, we do that too. Let's get it started. Like, review, subscribe, share, rate.

[00:01:02] Do all the free things. Do all the good things. Yes, sir.

[00:01:08] Sure. So, Mr. Logical, as I was cruising, just sitting around absorbing some sports news, you know, something caught my attention.

[00:01:22] You know, the Philadelphia 76ers have been fined $100,000 because when Nick Nurse and Daryl Morey made statements, it contradicted what has been said about Joel Embiid's injury.

[00:01:38] What are we doing?

[00:01:40] Same thing.

[00:01:44] I think Arthur Smith did last year with B. John Wayne was sick.

[00:01:48] Thinking you giving your team a competitive advantage. You don't want to give the other team a competitive edge.

[00:01:56] Joel Embiid thinks that he can just sit back and rest until the playoffs.

[00:02:02] He's already said, I'm not going to play back-to-back for the rest of my career.

[00:02:05] And I've said this every single time someone brought up a little management.

[00:02:09] Just don't practice hard.

[00:02:12] He knows the place.

[00:02:14] Just have him come in to the facility for treatment.

[00:02:17] The massage table.

[00:02:20] The little leg things that they do.

[00:02:22] Hyperbaric chamber.

[00:02:23] Have him take naps.

[00:02:25] Bring in a yoga professor.

[00:02:26] I mean, professional.

[00:02:28] Just have him just stretch and just stay loose.

[00:02:31] Be in the building.

[00:02:33] Don't run up and down the court for practice.

[00:02:35] No unnecessary wear and tear your knees.

[00:02:37] Play the two games.

[00:02:39] Just don't practice.

[00:02:41] As long as you can keep him in shape via just whatever calisthenics that's not too bad on his knees.

[00:02:48] Treadmill, elliptical.

[00:02:50] Let me ask you this real quick.

[00:02:51] How long do you think it takes for NBA players to adjust to new players on their team?

[00:02:59] Because they had a lot of changeover.

[00:03:01] Well, a lot of those guys still have a very basic role of standing around and watch the offensive players do their thing.

[00:03:08] And you catch and shoot or you rebound.

[00:03:12] It's not as if they're working with a new point guard.

[00:03:15] Paul George.

[00:03:16] Like a Chris Paul that runs the offense.

[00:03:18] Paul George doesn't run the offense.

[00:03:20] He might.

[00:03:21] But he's going to get the ball and he's going to be able to like, yo, I'm going to pick my spots.

[00:03:25] I'm going to pick my times.

[00:03:26] I'm going to get four to six shots this quarter.

[00:03:30] Maybe 10, 12 shots and a half if I so desire because I'm Paul George.

[00:03:36] We talked about like Jeff Teague talked about this a lot in this podcast was like.

[00:03:40] You can be.

[00:03:42] You can average 30 something in high school, 20 or so in college and get to the NBA and be pick and pop guy, rebound guy, defensive guy, just a glue guy like that could be your whole role.

[00:03:58] And the only time you get to get up 12 to 15 shots is if you're hot on those pick and pops or the starter not there.

[00:04:07] So guys have their role.

[00:04:09] I just feel like a lot of these players have kind of tasted that sauce that makes them think that they're destined for more greatness than they are.

[00:04:20] I'm like, it's not.

[00:04:21] So, well, then B, your problem isn't playing back to backs.

[00:04:24] It's the fact that you just you no matter how many games you play, you get injured.

[00:04:30] So you can play 41 games and you're probably simply injured because you missed a bunch of games last year.

[00:04:37] Only played 39 games.

[00:04:39] You're just injury prone.

[00:04:41] And see, like for me, I got a couple of thoughts on this, you know, but I'll start with the basic one.

[00:04:48] So Nick Nurse is the head coach of the 76ers, of course.

[00:04:52] So he has a little bit of experience with this because, you know, he was the championship coach of the Toronto Raptors with the one and only Kawhi Leonard, you know, who needs might be worse than Todd Gurley's.

[00:05:03] But, you know, as we look at this, the thought that I have is the fans, of course.

[00:05:09] You know, we talk about this a lot.

[00:05:10] You know, people getting charged all this money.

[00:05:13] So here's here's problem number one that the NBA has.

[00:05:19] You got to market all your teams or as many teams as possible because guess what?

[00:05:25] Philadelphia has 27 national games this year.

[00:05:29] Why they on TV?

[00:05:30] You know what I mean?

[00:05:31] Like if you want to punish the team, forget the fines.

[00:05:34] You know, start chopping away some of those national TV games.

[00:05:38] You know, maybe the NBA could look into flex scheduling, if you will.

[00:05:42] So, you know, absolutely have to because if Tyrese Max, he needs a break.

[00:05:48] And Paul George isn't playing and B's not playing and they're playing against Milwaukee and name not is not playing.

[00:05:53] That's that game shouldn't be on TV.

[00:05:55] Right.

[00:05:55] You know, saying so then, you know, we talked about this a lot.

[00:05:59] We argued about this as far as you can't tell if a guy is injured or whatever the case may be.

[00:06:05] I come in here and tell you my hamstring hurt.

[00:06:06] You can't tell me it don't or there's a certain extent of how far the information goes.

[00:06:12] So so as so as we look at this, Joel Embiid played 39 games last season.

[00:06:17] He came into the playoffs last year, played on one leg and a half a face, you know, up against the Knicks, went six games.

[00:06:24] He had a lot going on.

[00:06:26] Yeah.

[00:06:26] Then he went to the Olympics.

[00:06:28] So he was healthy for the Olympics.

[00:06:29] Olympics, something happened in between the Olympics and now, I guess.

[00:06:34] But I think that's where the NBA got frustrated was this is opening night.

[00:06:39] You know, this is the new season.

[00:06:41] Everybody's excited.

[00:06:42] Fans are paying money to come see their favorite players, the best players.

[00:06:47] And here you are sitting out games.

[00:06:49] And so Nick Nurse is saying these things like, oh, hey, you know, he's looking good.

[00:06:54] He's looking good.

[00:06:54] Like, well, some things that I saw said he might not play until December.

[00:07:00] So as far as finding them one hundred thousand dollars, I don't think that's the answer either.

[00:07:05] You know, because the same guy that owns the 76ers owns the commanders.

[00:07:11] So therefore, that money means nothing.

[00:07:14] You know, if you if you want to start getting these teams to play ball, so to speak, you might have to take a draft pick or threaten it.

[00:07:25] You know, like you might know I'm not saying that's a good idea.

[00:07:28] I'm just saying if you want to get their attention and get this to stop, that's what you've got to do.

[00:07:33] But the problem is that the players put themselves in this position to begin with.

[00:07:38] Well, the teams probably had a lot more to do with it.

[00:07:40] The teams had a lot more to do with it because we saw the Golden State Warriors from 2009 when Steph got drafted, 2010.

[00:07:53] I think Clay came some years after that.

[00:07:56] They weren't getting national games until they got live.

[00:08:00] All right.

[00:08:00] And now they end up with a new arena.

[00:08:02] So I think owners will I think owners will ride with the whole like, you know what, if I got to do.

[00:08:10] If I got to do this and still get a championship out of it, that works.

[00:08:14] But what up, Mike?

[00:08:15] Hey, check this out, though.

[00:08:16] Quick question.

[00:08:17] Quick question.

[00:08:18] Check it out.

[00:08:18] Let's role play real quick.

[00:08:20] Pause.

[00:08:21] Pause.

[00:08:21] You know what I'm saying?

[00:08:22] You the owner and I'm Steph Curry.

[00:08:25] Come tell me you want me to sit tonight.

[00:08:30] I need you to sit.

[00:08:32] No.

[00:08:34] That's the end of the conversation right there.

[00:08:38] One love, Mike.

[00:08:40] You know what I'm saying?

[00:08:41] But that's the end of the...

[00:08:42] What Mike said about the load management of a pop is that that Tim Duncan load management...

[00:08:52] But he was old.

[00:08:54] Because he...

[00:08:55] And he wasn't a superstar.

[00:08:56] Case in point.

[00:08:57] I think...

[00:08:59] I'm going to invoke the name of the great one, LeBron.

[00:09:02] If the Lakers wanted to game manage or load manage LeBron, that would make sense to the Lakers and him.

[00:09:11] Because he can...

[00:09:14] He can come in and dominate the game and score points and make things happen and then take a break.

[00:09:21] With...

[00:09:21] With...

[00:09:22] But the problem is that LeBron and LeBron Laker tickets.

[00:09:27] Not just Los Angeles.

[00:09:28] The LeBron Laker ticket prices are markedly higher anywhere you go.

[00:09:35] Especially if he comes to the East Coast.

[00:09:37] Because I don't think they play...

[00:09:39] Maybe they play one game.

[00:09:41] They play once a year against the East home in a way.

[00:09:45] So you get one game against Washington.

[00:09:48] One game against Charlotte.

[00:09:49] And that's why I like when we were having this conversation.

[00:09:52] It's not like it's close.

[00:09:52] Like here I live in Jersey.

[00:09:54] So I can get...

[00:09:56] I can maybe go to the Brooklyn game.

[00:09:58] I can go to the Knicks game.

[00:10:00] I can go to the Philly game.

[00:10:01] And maybe if I'm feeling froggy, I can try to catch the Washington game.

[00:10:05] But that's because I live here.

[00:10:06] But if you live in North Carolina, maybe you go to the Hawks game.

[00:10:12] Maybe try to hit the Hornets game.

[00:10:14] If he plays...

[00:10:15] Maybe.

[00:10:16] So it's like...

[00:10:18] That's the only difference.

[00:10:19] See, with Joel Embiid...

[00:10:23] I think people want to see him.

[00:10:25] But I don't think people want to see him as much as they want to see a guy like Steph.

[00:10:30] A perimeter guy.

[00:10:32] I think people like watching Embiid.

[00:10:33] I think basketball people really like Embiid.

[00:10:35] But as far as the fan experience, I think if a young fan came to the arena, I think what you can get with Tyrese Maxey is what they like to see.

[00:10:51] It's what current fans like to see.

[00:10:54] That's the only thing.

[00:10:55] And if Embiid's actually hurt, just be like, yo, he's hurt.

[00:10:59] I'm pretty sure something on him is healing from some kind of procedure that happened in the last few months.

[00:11:04] But even if they have to embellish it...

[00:11:06] Real quick, before we get into Anthony Richardson, Rich Eisen says something like,

[00:11:10] I want my players to be honest when they come on the podium.

[00:11:13] But, you know, sometimes lie to me.

[00:11:16] Sometimes say no comment.

[00:11:18] Sometimes say, I talked to my coach about that.

[00:11:21] You know, my coach knows what it is.

[00:11:23] That's the end of it.

[00:11:24] Like, you know what I mean?

[00:11:24] We're keeping the information in-house.

[00:11:26] But see, but I think that's the problem, too, with the Sixers, is that they haven't really gone out...

[00:11:34] Not that they have to, but they haven't really gone out of their way to express,

[00:11:38] this is what's wrong with Joel Embiid.

[00:11:40] Like, we've heard, like, knee soreness.

[00:11:42] Like, he's going to have that forever.

[00:11:45] Because you can't get on TV and say he don't feel like playing yet.

[00:11:49] No, I know.

[00:11:50] But you can at least make up something.

[00:11:53] That's the thing.

[00:11:53] Like, it's probably half...

[00:11:55] Yeah, he's the one that said he wasn't doing back-to-backs.

[00:11:58] That wasn't the team that said that.

[00:11:59] That was him.

[00:12:00] So he's probably literally saying, listen, up until December, we'll be fine.

[00:12:07] We'll win these games.

[00:12:09] As long as we're 45 and 37 at the end of the year, we can make a playoff run.

[00:12:14] I don't care if we're the fifth seed.

[00:12:16] As long as we're higher than six.

[00:12:18] And I think a lot of teams look like, as long as we're higher than six and we're not in the play-in and we're playing for our playoff lives.

[00:12:25] Whoever's three, like, if you figure right now, Orlando ends up three and Philly ends up six.

[00:12:32] And Embiid has played 38 games this year.

[00:12:35] Now, he's played 38 games between...

[00:12:40] We'll say he played 50 games.

[00:12:42] Say he took 32 games off between now and whenever he starts, and then they sprinkle in some games off for the playoffs.

[00:12:50] So he gets 50 good games under his belt.

[00:12:53] They get to succeed.

[00:12:56] And they're playing Orlando.

[00:12:58] It can be competitive, but in their mind, they're thinking the investment we made in Embiid's body by allowing it to just basically simmer.

[00:13:07] Now it's time for him to come out and cook.

[00:13:10] But I also think that's dangerous.

[00:13:12] I think that's dangerous with somebody's hip size.

[00:13:14] But in the same sense, they're probably thinking, like, if we play him consecutively for the first 35 games, do we risk getting him injured to the point where when he comes back at game 60, now we got to work him back into the fold up until game 80?

[00:13:35] Well, part of the NBA's policy, though, is that if a player has injury history, you know, and I know this sounds real Air Force-like, there is an approval process.

[00:13:47] You know, so like, for example, a couple years ago, you know, street clothes, Anthony Davis, right?

[00:13:52] You know, the process is over.

[00:13:55] You know, a couple years ago, Anthony Davis kept getting hurt, street clothes, all that stuff.

[00:14:01] The Lakers put in place, like, hey, he's not going to play back-to-backs this year.

[00:14:05] That was before this participation rule came to be.

[00:14:08] But in a situation like that, if it were to present itself now, the NBA can approve a certain schedule for players.

[00:14:16] And I think that's the thing that the NBA is looking at is this is a business.

[00:14:21] It's opening night.

[00:14:23] You know, it's the start of the season.

[00:14:26] We're competing with football.

[00:14:28] World Series is going on right now.

[00:14:30] We're competing with college football.

[00:14:31] You know, you got Louisiana and Texas State on a Tuesday night, Sunbelt football stand-up.

[00:14:37] Hockey's firing up.

[00:14:38] Like, you have a lot going on, so you have a lot of eyes on sport.

[00:14:42] And it's one of your major markets.

[00:14:43] If I had to guess, Philly, Philadelphia is probably eight nationally, somewhere around there, as far as, like, they're four.

[00:14:50] I think it's five, actually.

[00:14:51] Houston passed them, so they're five.

[00:14:52] New York.

[00:14:53] New York, LA, Chicago, Houston, Philly.

[00:14:57] And then depending on what you look at, it could be Phoenix, too.

[00:15:00] Phoenix, Boston.

[00:15:01] Yeah.

[00:15:01] So you have, like, you have these markets, especially when you have, like, these nostalgia-based teams.

[00:15:07] I just, honestly, I just believe he's really telling them, like, you know how Slaton Ibrahimovic, the soccer player, just kind of had, like, this air, like, yo, when Slaton plays, Slaton wins.

[00:15:20] Yeah.

[00:15:21] He probably just has that, like, yo, when I show up, we'll win.

[00:15:25] In the meantime, I'm chilling.

[00:15:27] But they don't know how to articulate that in the interim.

[00:15:30] And see, and that's the problem.

[00:15:31] Not only was it opening night.

[00:15:33] You were playing against Milwaukee, too.

[00:15:35] You know what I mean?

[00:15:36] I don't think any of that matters.

[00:15:37] And they played Indiana.

[00:15:38] No, no.

[00:15:39] I'm just saying from a business standpoint, like, if you're sitting in the NBA front office or someone who has some skin in the game, because we don't have skin in the game.

[00:15:47] When you're in Philly, you're good, because it's Philly.

[00:15:51] Philly fans showing up.

[00:15:53] Philly, they might cuss you out on the way out of the stadium.

[00:15:55] They might cuss the team out.

[00:15:57] They might cuss the coach out.

[00:15:58] They're going to think Santa bad.

[00:16:00] They're definitely going to cuss the ref out.

[00:16:02] But Philly fans, they showing up.

[00:16:04] Like, they are going to be there in full force.

[00:16:07] Like, the arena, Wells Fargo Arena will be packed.

[00:16:11] The Lincoln Financial will be packed no matter how we feel about Sirianni.

[00:16:16] Philly fans are fanatics.

[00:16:19] They're literally the mascot of the Phillies is a fanatic.

[00:16:22] They're coming to the game.

[00:16:24] If he was in Milwaukee, if he was in Atlanta, if he was in Orlando and he was a star, if he was in Houston, maybe even Phoenix without a Kevin Durant, then it'd be a problem.

[00:16:40] But the fact that he's in Philly, the fans are going to show up.

[00:16:43] So the NBA is looking at it like, when we play Philadelphia games, we're still filming 19,000 to 20,000 people in the stands with signs and noisemakers.

[00:16:56] And they're going to be cussing out the door.

[00:16:56] So the ambiance that the NBA is selling you on TV will be fine.

[00:17:02] And Tyreek's Maxxie giving you 30 points.

[00:17:05] It's just going to be like, Embiid who?

[00:17:07] It's going to be AI all over again.

[00:17:09] Eight for 31.

[00:17:11] Yo, but that's the thing.

[00:17:12] As long as the video that the NBA cameras are recording and feeding to the masses, as long as it looks the part 21 being on the floor or not.

[00:17:28] It's like I said, Toronto without Kawhi Leonard or even right now the Clippers without Kawhi.

[00:17:34] That's a problem.

[00:17:35] But it's L.A.

[00:17:38] So L.A. might just show up and it's a new arena.

[00:17:42] Steve Ballmer is probably capable of saying, you know what?

[00:17:45] I can cut these ticket prices by 50 percent and still make a profit just to keep the arena filled.

[00:17:52] But it's L.A.

[00:17:54] And because it's L.A., everyone's going to show out in some form or fashion.

[00:17:58] But like I said, if that was an OKC or Orlando or somewhere, God forbid San Antonio.

[00:18:06] Don't you wish that evil on me, Ricky Bobby.

[00:18:09] Like if Wimby was sitting.

[00:18:12] It wouldn't it wouldn't it wouldn't hold, you know, hold water the same way.

[00:18:16] Right. Right.

[00:18:18] And good point, Mike.

[00:18:19] You know, the Clippers do got hardened as well.

[00:18:21] So, you know, and, you know, they're looking a lot like those Houston teams already.

[00:18:25] You know, so we'll see how that blends in when Kawhi comes back.

[00:18:29] So as we move on, you know, let's take it to the shield.

[00:18:34] So you brought his name up.

[00:18:36] So let's go ahead and get into it.

[00:18:37] Anthony Richardson benched Joe Flacco and should have been that call weeks ago.

[00:18:43] But whatever.

[00:18:43] We're here now.

[00:18:45] What are your thoughts?

[00:18:47] I want to like I said, I keep forgetting to give guys their credit.

[00:18:51] But it was a statement that somebody made.

[00:18:53] I believe it was.

[00:18:54] I think it was Greeny, maybe Nick Gray.

[00:18:57] I can't remember.

[00:18:58] But essentially what they were saying is that.

[00:19:01] There's two simultaneous ideas running concurrently in regards to the Colts.

[00:19:08] You want to win because you want to win.

[00:19:13] But in the same sense, you drafted a guy fourth overall.

[00:19:17] You don't want to be drafting that high again.

[00:19:20] And so you want that guy to be there when you win.

[00:19:25] So next year, you're not trying to redevelop him for the third year in a row.

[00:19:32] So you want him to be a guy this year.

[00:19:35] That's why you don't start Flacco.

[00:19:37] That was my argument against Andy Dalton starting.

[00:19:39] Because if you don't want to keep Bryce Young after this year, you got to let him play it out.

[00:19:46] And maybe he's better.

[00:19:48] Maybe he gives you some pieces you can work with going forward.

[00:19:51] Or maybe he lets you know that Shador Sanders might look good wearing a number two jersey in Carolina.

[00:19:59] Or Carson Beck or Quinn Ewers or whoever, you know.

[00:20:04] Not Carson Beck.

[00:20:05] Whatever quarterback you think is going to be your next guy that you get to pick as the head coach of this team.

[00:20:14] So I believe you start the young guy.

[00:20:17] The problem is you got to put the young guy in a position of where his flaws aren't highlighted so drastically.

[00:20:27] Run the ball more.

[00:20:29] Maybe more gadget plays.

[00:20:31] Maybe more tight ends.

[00:20:33] Just give them bigger, easier targets.

[00:20:36] Because if you got to dink and dunk down the field eight, nine yards at a time, listen, an NFL drive, most of them start at the 30.

[00:20:44] I got to get, what is it, 20, 25, 30, 30 yards, and I'm in field goal range for most NFL kickers.

[00:20:54] Can I call plays for this type of quarterback that gets us in scoring position every drive?

[00:21:01] The problem is they keep calling these deep shots because they can't hit anything underneath.

[00:21:07] You got to let them play that out.

[00:21:09] Flacco's going to come in and is going to give these guys this expectation that it's going to all work out.

[00:21:14] And then Flacco's going to have his Andy Dalton moment for a couple of weeks.

[00:21:18] And you have to go back to him.

[00:21:19] Now he's missed all of these reps that he desperately needs as the first team QB.

[00:21:26] You had to give the Flacco because you're preparing for games against Jacksonville, games against Miami, games against whomever.

[00:21:33] And now, now you're going to have to go back to him because Flacco's not your answer.

[00:21:38] Flacco is our age.

[00:21:40] Matt Ryan's retired.

[00:21:42] They got drafted the same year.

[00:21:43] Like, this, this Brett Favre's not a Brady miracle.

[00:21:48] Yeah.

[00:21:49] And Bryce Young's six inches shorter than my 50-year-old son.

[00:21:52] So it's like, let's keep it at B.

[00:21:54] Yeah.

[00:21:55] But, but, you know, no, I don't, I don't think Dion is.

[00:21:57] I am that much shorter than him.

[00:21:59] That is true.

[00:21:59] No, I don't think Dion is leaving.

[00:22:01] I think Colorado is his job until somebody, a bigger program comes calling.

[00:22:08] You know, like, hypothetically, I'm not trying to, you know.

[00:22:11] But if Ohio State fires Ryan Day, Dion will leave Colorado to go there.

[00:22:18] You know what I mean?

[00:22:19] Like, he'll go, you know.

[00:22:20] Can you imagine all them Florida dudes in Ohio State?

[00:22:23] I know.

[00:22:24] I know.

[00:22:25] Mike don't want to see that, Michigan fan.

[00:22:27] But, but I don't think Dion's coaching the NFL.

[00:22:29] I think, you know, you were telling me, Mr. Logical, you were telling me, Dion said something along the lines of, like,

[00:22:35] nah, these dudes make more money than me.

[00:22:36] They ain't trying to listen to me or, you know, something like that.

[00:22:38] But that was pre-NIL, too.

[00:22:40] Right.

[00:22:41] NFL, though.

[00:22:42] Like, so.

[00:22:42] That's what I'm saying.

[00:22:43] But that was, but he made that statement before the college players getting paid, too.

[00:22:48] Yeah.

[00:22:48] So.

[00:22:49] He might have a different.

[00:22:50] But none of those, but none of the college players are going to get paid more than him, though.

[00:22:55] At Ohio State?

[00:22:56] No, because, I mean, you got people like, you got people like Kirby Smart, you know, and these guys making over $10 million a year.

[00:23:02] You know, there ain't no player getting that.

[00:23:12] But, like, with, like, his, I ain't listening to you.

[00:23:16] But I don't think Dion's.

[00:23:17] Right now, Dion's getting 5.7 from Colorado.

[00:23:20] I don't think Colorado's signing anybody that's going to make 5.7.

[00:23:24] Yeah.

[00:23:24] So, yeah, he's good there.

[00:23:25] As long as he gets another quarterback in, that's not necessarily Shador, but, like, he's going to get playmakers because he recruits.

[00:23:32] He recruits Juco well.

[00:23:34] He takes a transfer portal serious.

[00:23:37] And I think he can recruit the Southwell.

[00:23:40] So, I think he'll be able to get the skill position, guys.

[00:23:42] It's a matter of, like, can you get, if you have to transition to your traditional pocket passing quarterback that doesn't run, can you recruit the line that he can stand behind and get the ball that he's playmakers?

[00:23:54] Right.

[00:23:54] But back to Anthony Richardson.

[00:23:56] Yeah, I agree on most of that, what you had said.

[00:24:00] And this is the thing, right?

[00:24:02] You drafted him last year.

[00:24:03] He only played three games last year.

[00:24:05] Got knocked out of those.

[00:24:08] So, he is a rookie again, you know, for all intents and purposes.

[00:24:13] You know, so, as you look at this, for me, you know, not affiliated with the Colts, you know, this is your season to figure out what he is slash.

[00:24:24] Just get him some reps.

[00:24:26] He needs as many reps as possible.

[00:24:28] I mean, hell, in Houston the other day, he went 10 for 32.

[00:24:33] It had 175 yards.

[00:24:35] You shouldn't call more than 24 passes with him.

[00:24:38] And so, I do believe, as Mr. Logical said a couple of weeks ago when he was talking about Tua, I think that the Colts reacted to pressure.

[00:24:46] You know, because Anthony Richardson had the moment of moments the other day where, you know, he told the reporters that he was tired.

[00:24:53] That's better than telling somebody, let's talk about these nuts, right?

[00:24:56] But as he was saying that.

[00:24:58] Or I lived in the darkness.

[00:25:00] I'm ready for this.

[00:25:01] Like, he's banging.

[00:25:03] Yeah.

[00:25:04] Like, you know.

[00:25:05] But, you know.

[00:25:06] I'm going to go to Forum Park and slap the shit.

[00:25:08] So, everybody is basically like.

[00:25:11] Allegedly.

[00:25:12] So, everybody is basically like, yo, I've never heard a football player say he was tired.

[00:25:16] Imagine an offensive lineman said he was tired.

[00:25:19] Blah, blah, blah.

[00:25:19] All this kind of stuff.

[00:25:20] Come get me out of the game.

[00:25:21] The play before he took himself out the game.

[00:25:24] He had a 300-pound dude over his back and he was running across the field.

[00:25:29] Okay.

[00:25:29] I get that he's tired.

[00:25:30] Maybe just don't say that, Anthony.

[00:25:32] You know.

[00:25:33] But I don't think that the Colts should be benching him.

[00:25:35] You know.

[00:25:36] Unless their thought process is we can make the playoffs with Joe Flacco.

[00:25:41] And if that's your thought process, then Anthony Richardson shouldn't be on your roster next year.

[00:25:45] And I'm not being serious when I say that.

[00:25:47] They owe him money for so long.

[00:25:50] No, no.

[00:25:50] I get that.

[00:25:50] No, but I'm just making the point of you got to play the young dude.

[00:25:54] If your answer is I want to make the playoffs this year right now and I need Joe Flacco to do that,

[00:26:00] then Anthony Richardson is not your answer.

[00:26:02] That's all I'm saying.

[00:26:03] You know.

[00:26:04] But no.

[00:26:04] You know, Flacco started last year in Houston.

[00:26:07] And, you know, he, what, had 13 touchdowns, eight interceptions.

[00:26:11] And everybody said, oh, my God.

[00:26:14] Like, it's the moonwalker.

[00:26:15] He's back in the flesh.

[00:26:16] Come back later a year.

[00:26:18] Yeah, so he came back this year.

[00:26:20] He came back this year.

[00:26:22] Played a few games because Anthony Richardson, guess what?

[00:26:24] Got hurt.

[00:26:25] So, you know, and he played well.

[00:26:28] So if you was just going to, if there was a possibility that Anthony Richardson could play bad enough or piss you off bad enough that you would be willing to bench him to put Joe Flacco in, then you should have never benched Joe Flacco in the first place.

[00:26:44] Once again.

[00:26:45] They not trade Richardson.

[00:26:47] It's way too early for that.

[00:26:49] There's no trade value for him.

[00:26:50] Way too early.

[00:26:51] He like the only.

[00:26:52] See, see, see, see.

[00:26:54] If you could do interleague trades, Anthony Richardson would have value.

[00:26:58] Like, if you could call the Chicago Bulls and be like, I'll give you Anthony Richardson for something because he could jump out the stadium.

[00:27:04] He has trade value.

[00:27:06] Around the NFL, nobody wants him.

[00:27:08] It's not about anybody wanting him.

[00:27:10] It's just that nobody needs him.

[00:27:12] Like, nobody.

[00:27:13] No one needs a quarterback.

[00:27:15] Like, why would I take on a guy that you're still building?

[00:27:19] You have to stick to your convictions.

[00:27:22] You drafted him, even if you think it's a mistake.

[00:27:25] Unless you're going to fully cut your losses and pay him out and move him, which I don't think they're going to do.

[00:27:32] Because I don't think their GM makes those kind of bold moves.

[00:27:36] Especially if you.

[00:27:37] Because what's going to end up happening?

[00:27:39] The same thing that happened with the Raiders with the interim coach.

[00:27:44] Yo, Mike, that's probably dead on.

[00:27:46] It's just they got enamored with size.

[00:27:49] They got enamored with this idea that they can get a bigger, stronger, faster version of, insert whoever your favorite quarterback is.

[00:27:57] Oh, Trey Lance is a bigger, faster version of Mahomes.

[00:28:00] Mahomes or Deezus.

[00:28:02] But just get the quarterback that fits your system that you've seen on film can, you know, orchestrate your offense to get your team points.

[00:28:13] Well, you've got to remember who their head coach is, too.

[00:28:15] You know, this is the guy that helped, you know, get Jalen Hurts to a Super Bowl.

[00:28:20] But Jalen Hurts also was a very successful college football passing quarterback.

[00:28:28] He didn't throw it a ton.

[00:28:29] He wasn't out there like Graham Harrell throwing the ball all over the place six times a game.

[00:28:33] But he was highly effective throwing the ball.

[00:28:37] He had a lot of years and some really good systems.

[00:28:41] Anthony Richardson was in Florida very short time.

[00:28:45] And they've been trying to fire every coach that's ever been to Florida in the last 10 years since Spurrier or ever since Spurrier left.

[00:28:53] So that's that's a different piece.

[00:28:56] And the same thing is like they had better weapons for Jalen Hurts and he worked the tight end.

[00:29:04] Zach Hurts was an all pro playing like an all pro with with Jalen Hurts.

[00:29:09] And then Jalen Hurts sat behind Carson Wentz for a little bit.

[00:29:12] And Goddard plays well whenever he's on the field.

[00:29:15] So that's the thing I think.

[00:29:17] And that's the thing that the Colts don't have.

[00:29:19] They don't have a tight end.

[00:29:20] The Colts are in a position where sometimes you've got to stand in front of people and say, nope.

[00:29:33] Keep your feelings to yourself.

[00:29:36] We're going to do this long term.

[00:29:38] It's going to be better because even if it's like, say you got this situation.

[00:29:44] Flacco plays well.

[00:29:46] What do you do with Anthony Richardson?

[00:29:48] There's no trade value for a second year quarterback.

[00:29:52] You benched for a guy that got elected or got drafted when Obama got elected.

[00:30:00] Right.

[00:30:01] We had a couple of presidential elections since then.

[00:30:04] So there's no value.

[00:30:05] You got a guy that was in the league that many years ago who took your second year guy's spot.

[00:30:15] Even with the size, people are going to be enamored with the size.

[00:30:18] But we're going to think back to that pro day when he threw the ball into the Raptors of that indoor facility that he was working in.

[00:30:25] You knew that was there.

[00:30:27] There's no reason to throw the ball that high.

[00:30:30] Right.

[00:30:31] I like him.

[00:30:31] I think he's a likable guy.

[00:30:33] I think he's a lot like the black Justin Herbert where it's just like there's nothing negative you can say about it as a personality.

[00:30:41] It's just that his performance on the field.

[00:30:43] You can't call 32 passes.

[00:30:45] Right.

[00:30:45] If the score was like 35 to 31, it was a shootout.

[00:30:50] Then that makes sense.

[00:30:50] I know.

[00:30:51] You know that game for me ended on some bullshit, though.

[00:30:55] You know I hate that whole down by contact rule because the Colts recovered that fumble, ran it back for a touchdown.

[00:31:01] But Jonathan Mixon just happened to graze the dude on the back of the helmet, and that counts as down as contact bullshit.

[00:31:10] But anyway, I hate that shit so much.

[00:31:13] But anyway, let's move on a little bit from that.

[00:31:15] It's consistently bad.

[00:31:16] I'm good with that.

[00:31:17] So here's a question that I have for you, you know, Sanon, for everybody in the comments.

[00:31:22] So you got the Dolphins sitting here at 2-5.

[00:31:26] You know, Tua came back.

[00:31:27] They just lost a heartbreaker to the Cardinals.

[00:31:29] You got the Bengals at 3-5, you know, who just got mollywhopped, you know, by the Eagles.

[00:31:35] You know, no T. Higgins and all that.

[00:31:38] If you had to take your money, your hard-earned cold bucks and go to Vegas right now, which one of those two teams would you pick to have a turnaround and make the playoffs?

[00:31:53] You kind of – you gave me this early, and I thought about it, and I'm trying to think about the AFC playoff picture.

[00:32:07] Well, see, the good news is – you know what I mean – is that Miami has a chance this weekend.

[00:32:12] I think they're going to lose, but they have a chance because they play Buffalo this weekend division game.

[00:32:18] You know, so if they –

[00:32:20] Yeah, okay, so they got to beat Buffalo.

[00:32:23] Yeah, that's going to be tough.

[00:32:25] I'm going to say –

[00:32:29] I know.

[00:32:30] I just don't like it.

[00:32:31] I'm going to say the Bengals.

[00:32:33] Okay.

[00:32:35] Because I think they can still finish – nah, I can't.

[00:32:39] I can't even say them.

[00:32:40] I think I'm going with the Dolphins just off of the –

[00:32:42] I'm going to say the Dolphins because I think they can kind of claw their way to second in their division.

[00:32:48] I think – so, yeah, that's what I'm thinking because with the Jets falling off the way that they are,

[00:32:54] you know, the Patriots are up in the air, obviously, and not trying to win for real unless they're playing the Jets.

[00:33:00] You know, Cincinnati still has Baltimore again at Baltimore.

[00:33:05] They still play the Steelers twice, you know, and so, I mean, I don't know.

[00:33:09] And that's the thing.

[00:33:10] I think best case scenario, they could be third or fourth in their division simply because I don't know how good James is going to play.

[00:33:22] I don't know.

[00:33:23] But I think –

[00:33:24] Hey, you heard what James said.

[00:33:25] You only get one shot.

[00:33:26] You only get one shot.

[00:33:28] You're not –

[00:33:29] You know what I'm saying?

[00:33:30] Opportunity comes with us a lifetime.

[00:33:32] And I get that.

[00:33:33] I just feel as if the Bengals are going to be in such a battle in their own division that they're going to lose –

[00:33:42] they're going to lose a couple more divisions.

[00:33:44] Well, I think the Bengals –

[00:33:45] Because the division is so tough.

[00:33:46] I think the Bengals hurt themselves.

[00:33:48] I think Miami gets into a groove.

[00:33:51] Tua gets back in rhythm.

[00:33:53] I think optimism increases.

[00:33:55] I think every good pass for Tua in the next game over the next few weeks, if Tyreek gets open over the top, you get your speed guys out there.

[00:34:07] I think they can run off.

[00:34:08] So, you said they're sitting at what, three and six right now?

[00:34:11] The Dolphins are two and five because they had their bye week already.

[00:34:15] So, here we go.

[00:34:15] Let's do this real quick.

[00:34:16] I can see the Dolphins getting a four and five in the next couple of weeks.

[00:34:20] So, let's look at their schedule real quick.

[00:34:23] Okay.

[00:34:23] So, at Buffalo.

[00:34:25] I think that's winnable if they play to their strengths.

[00:34:29] At the Rams on Monday Night Football.

[00:34:32] Same – I think that's tangible as well.

[00:34:35] Las Vegas and New England both at home.

[00:34:39] Okay.

[00:34:39] So, stop right there.

[00:34:40] I think they could potentially run off four in a row if they can get the groove, the speed groove.

[00:34:49] Getting the ball to A-Chan, getting it to Mostert, getting it to Tyreek Hill.

[00:34:55] I think that's enough.

[00:34:57] Because I think their defense plan is solid enough.

[00:35:00] The Bengals – excuse me.

[00:35:01] The Bengals have two disgruntled skilled position players.

[00:35:05] Excuse me.

[00:35:07] Two disgruntled skilled position players and a quarterback that's been kind of leveraged as this – he – people have him top four, five in the league at quarterback.

[00:35:19] But each week when they don't deliver, the conversation in there is going to be like, how are you a top five quarterback and you can't win these games?

[00:35:26] I just think that the external pressure of contracts and titles and these preseason picks, I think they weigh more on Cincinnati.

[00:35:39] And I think Miami is playing with house money because if they don't do well, it's going to be because Tua got concussed.

[00:35:46] And they threw off their season.

[00:35:48] All right.

[00:35:48] So, after that New England game, that's week 12.

[00:35:50] They go to Lambeau on Thanksgiving, Jets at home at Houston, home against the 49ers at Cleveland, and then they close on the road with the Jets.

[00:36:03] So, you said right now they're two and –

[00:36:06] Two and five.

[00:36:06] Two and five.

[00:36:08] I can see them getting the five and five, and then, you know, it's a toss-up week after that.

[00:36:16] All right.

[00:36:16] Then real quick, let's go through Cincinnati real quick.

[00:36:18] So, Cincinnati got the Raiders this week at home.

[00:36:23] That should be a win, but that's the problem.

[00:36:25] Cincinnati has games like that this year where it should have been wins and they lost them.

[00:36:30] Right.

[00:36:31] And I'm going to get to that in a second.

[00:36:32] Yep.

[00:36:32] Then they go to Baltimore next Thursday at the Chargers.

[00:36:38] Then they get their bye week.

[00:36:40] Pittsburgh at Dallas, at Tennessee, Cleveland, Denver at Pittsburgh.

[00:36:46] So, the reason that I wanted to bring up these teams in particular is as I was looking around the AFC.

[00:36:51] You know, obviously Kansas City's still undefeated.

[00:36:53] So, right now you have to say the other teams in their division are wild cards.

[00:36:58] So, you look at Denver.

[00:37:00] You know, are we believing in Denver?

[00:37:02] Do we think that Denver's going to be here until the end?

[00:37:04] I think Denver can keep clawing their way to victories because they scrapped out the victories that people thought they weren't going to get.

[00:37:13] The Jets game, I'm figuring people probably didn't think they were going to beat New Orleans that bad after the way New Orleans started the season.

[00:37:20] They just beat Carolina.

[00:37:22] I believe they still have a game against Atlanta.

[00:37:24] Maybe one against Tampa Bay if they haven't already played Tampa Bay.

[00:37:28] Yeah, Tampa was their first win.

[00:37:30] That was the big upset.

[00:37:31] So, now they've still got a game against Atlanta.

[00:37:34] So, you know, like they have winnable games and they can just kind of keep scratching.

[00:37:40] And then the same thing with the Chargers.

[00:37:42] You know what I mean?

[00:37:42] As far as like the Chargers got a big one this weekend.

[00:37:45] I mean, not for real.

[00:37:47] But they're playing the Browns, you know, and I think that's a toss-up game.

[00:37:50] You know, that could go either way.

[00:37:52] But just based off of how the Chargers play, which is what I was going to say about Cincinnati.

[00:37:56] You know, they're playing the Raiders this weekend.

[00:37:58] I'm not saying the Raiders are going to win.

[00:38:01] But just the way that Cincinnati plays, the lack of running game, the lack of defense.

[00:38:06] Every game is going to be a battle.

[00:38:07] They can lose that game 27-24 and it wouldn't surprise us.

[00:38:11] Right.

[00:38:11] And that's the problem within itself is that, you know, Miami, like Mike said, has the number one pass defense in the NFL.

[00:38:19] So, what everybody's trying to do, you're good against.

[00:38:21] You know, and you have your weapons.

[00:38:23] So, you know, we'll see though.

[00:38:24] You know, we'll see.

[00:38:25] But, you know, but as, you know, also looking around.

[00:38:28] That was a good question.

[00:38:29] But, and, you know, and I think that's just a bad game.

[00:38:31] I don't know why you didn't bring up the Jets as a potential.

[00:38:34] Hold on.

[00:38:34] I'm going to get to the Jets in a second.

[00:38:35] But what I was going to say.

[00:38:38] Asshole.

[00:38:39] Fuck Aaron Rodgers.

[00:38:41] But what I was going to say.

[00:38:42] We got another New York Aaron.

[00:38:44] We got Aaron Judge up the bat right now.

[00:38:46] Bottom of the seventh.

[00:38:48] Yankee's still winning.

[00:38:49] Yankee's up 6-4.

[00:38:51] All right.

[00:38:52] Because I'm watching this Louisiana, Texas State game.

[00:38:55] You know, but what I was going to say was Cincinnati, I think they really hurt their playoff chances with that loss to Philly the other day.

[00:39:02] I think they needed that game because they're already in a position where you're at a slim margin for error.

[00:39:09] You know, because, you know, Pittsburgh 6-2, you know, Baltimore, they do have the three losses, but Baltimore's already beat you.

[00:39:17] You know, you're only a game up on Cleveland right now.

[00:39:22] That's the thing with Cincinnati is that if they would have played more competitive, I think they could rest on something going forward.

[00:39:30] They just got manhandled.

[00:39:32] Yeah.

[00:39:34] Against Philly did whatever they wanted.

[00:39:37] And we saw the clip last week of Saquon saying run it again, talking to the Giants rookie safety.

[00:39:45] They were running the hell out of Jalen Hurts.

[00:39:47] And it's like, you knew it was coming.

[00:39:48] They were like, nothing you can do about it.

[00:39:50] Yeah, he had a damn snake stealing all the touchdowns from us fantasy owners.

[00:39:54] You know, but.

[00:39:55] Right out to center.

[00:39:57] Aaron Judge is still out here.

[00:39:59] I wasn't going to ask you this.

[00:40:01] I wasn't going to ask you this, but now that we're talking about it, and I just happened to look down at my paper real quick.

[00:40:05] All right.

[00:40:06] Is Dallas making the playoffs?

[00:40:08] I'm getting one team.

[00:40:14] I'm getting two teams out of NFTs.

[00:40:17] Okay.

[00:40:18] Washington, Philly.

[00:40:20] Okay.

[00:40:21] Because I think, I like Dallas.

[00:40:25] Like, I've always liked, I like Dak.

[00:40:27] I just think that they put themselves in such a bad position by not addressing glaring holes that they had to end the last season.

[00:40:37] Injuries happen.

[00:40:38] You know, you got Marcus Lawrence was out.

[00:40:42] Michael Parsons is out.

[00:40:43] They just, there's, there's nothing that Dallas can lean on that going into a game, crunch time.

[00:40:55] We need a play anywhere on the field.

[00:41:00] Other than a broken play and CeeDee Lamb gets open.

[00:41:06] If you think about Philly, Philly can run the ball and third and fourth and one, they can do the tush push.

[00:41:13] They know that is a highly effective means for them.

[00:41:17] They control the line of scrimmage.

[00:41:18] They can run the ball.

[00:41:20] Kansas City can rely on their defense.

[00:41:22] So, they can, they can be at the three-yard line and be fourth and goal from the three.

[00:41:29] So, you know what?

[00:41:30] We're going to kick this field goal and go up 24-20, two and a half minutes left and turn our defense over.

[00:41:37] And let the defense close the game out because they can rely on that.

[00:41:44] I think even Atlanta is, seem to be really good to rely on Kirk Cousins passing game and the safeties making plays in the pass game.

[00:41:53] So, like, they're, you know, even Denver.

[00:41:55] Denver can, it's like, you know what?

[00:41:57] Bo Nix is athletic enough.

[00:41:59] He's making moves.

[00:42:00] Him, Deshaun Payton, the fiery, you know, back and forth.

[00:42:03] You can rely on that.

[00:42:05] I don't think Dallas has much that when they go into a game and it's the first quarter and say they're down 10-0 after the first quarter.

[00:42:13] A couple possessions.

[00:42:14] Other team got a touchdown.

[00:42:16] Get the ball back.

[00:42:17] Got a field goal.

[00:42:17] It's 10-0.

[00:42:18] Dallas has the ball going into the second quarter.

[00:42:21] I don't think there's anything they can say, like, you know what?

[00:42:23] We can do these things to get a touchdown and cut this to 10-7 before they get the ball back.

[00:42:28] All right.

[00:42:28] And then for the divisions, as far as divisions go, who going to win the NFC West?

[00:42:35] Everybody's 4-4.

[00:42:36] Everybody's 4-4 except for the Rams at 3-4.

[00:42:39] I like Arizona.

[00:42:42] I like Arizona to do that.

[00:42:46] I don't really have a reason.

[00:42:47] I just like Arizona.

[00:42:48] I just like Arizona.

[00:42:49] Arizona was one of my surprise teams this year, but I think I still got the 49ers winning it.

[00:42:54] I don't believe in Seattle at all.

[00:42:56] I think the Rams are going to go in there and spank them around this weekend.

[00:42:59] I don't believe in San Francisco.

[00:43:01] Well, San Francisco obviously has a lot of injuries going on.

[00:43:05] We'll see if McCaffrey gets back after the bye week.

[00:43:08] I doubt it, but that's what some of the talk made.

[00:43:11] McCaffrey's not playing this year.

[00:43:12] I don't think so either.

[00:43:13] All right.

[00:43:14] So last question before we move on.

[00:43:17] So this is the question I was going to ask you during our pre-meeting.

[00:43:22] So obviously before the season started, I brought up that I thought Doug Peterson was going to be the first coach to get fired or somewhere along those lines.

[00:43:33] He's getting fired this season.

[00:43:34] And so I was thinking the other day, and I don't like to do this just because this is a first year head coach.

[00:43:41] What the fuck is going on in Tennessee?

[00:43:48] They thought they had something with Will Levis because he looked the part.

[00:43:53] And they don't.

[00:43:55] They flat out don't.

[00:43:58] They should have known when he slipped in the draft.

[00:44:00] And I get it that every once in a while, scouts don't nail it.

[00:44:05] Well, when a guy normally falls multiple rounds who was somehow rumored to be a top pick, when he doesn't have – when you don't have ultra-dynamic passing stats in college, that's a red flag to me as a scout.

[00:44:20] I know Josh Allen didn't, and I think a lot of people are comparing Josh Allen's season in Wyoming to, hey, you can get a guy who's thrown for 57% completion percentage in college and turn him around.

[00:44:37] Yeah, Josh Allen's also threw like 57% to 58% and 59% in the NFL before he got to Savon Diggs.

[00:44:43] So it wasn't like he just came in like, oh, I'm going to prove all y'all wrong and start throwing the ball over the field, 67% completion.

[00:44:50] He needed a top play wide receiver.

[00:44:52] And they gave him a first-round pick to make that happen.

[00:44:57] Tennessee should not even have a first-year coach.

[00:45:00] That's the problem in Tennessee.

[00:45:02] 100%.

[00:45:04] Tennessee was not in a rebuild.

[00:45:07] Tennessee had win-now players on staff, and then you brought in an elementary-level coaching staff to try to coach these guys.

[00:45:16] When they just had Joe Clark from Lean On Me be their principal, you brought in Cameron Diaz from Bad Teacher to take over,

[00:45:27] and it's like, yo, this is not going to work.

[00:45:30] We had a winning component here for sure, and they botched it.

[00:45:37] So what they're going to have to do, play the season out however it goes,

[00:45:42] and then go into the draft and say, who's our next quarterback?

[00:45:48] What pieces do we have here to get rid of?

[00:45:51] Is really a tradable piece?

[00:45:53] Like, you know, let's go ahead and start over.

[00:45:54] What that part for me is so confusing, right, because they hired Brian Callahan.

[00:45:58] And he came in from Cincinnati under Zach Taylor, you know.

[00:46:02] So I guess –

[00:46:03] A cup of coffee with Sean McVay.

[00:46:04] There you go.

[00:46:05] You know, saying Tennessee was looking for a renaissance, I guess, you know.

[00:46:10] And right now, you know, they're number one in the league in yards per game giving up on defense, you know.

[00:46:15] So, you know, they played one less game, but pretty much the top defense in the league overall.

[00:46:20] They just gave up 52 to Detroit.

[00:46:22] That was due to some punt returns and all that kind of stuff.

[00:46:24] But when I look at Tennessee, they don't even seem to have an identity.

[00:46:28] And that's why I wonder if there's a possibility that –

[00:46:31] That comes from the coach.

[00:46:33] They could hit – no, I know.

[00:46:34] That's what I'm saying.

[00:46:34] That's why I wonder if they could possibly hit the reset button, you know.

[00:46:39] And if not, then he comes into next year on that same hot seat that I think –

[00:46:44] that I thought Doug Peterson was on.

[00:46:47] I don't think he's on a hot seat.

[00:46:48] I just think that he is going to have to be allowed – because I believe they just brought in a GM from San Francisco as well.

[00:46:55] I think it was a tandem piece where both of these guys came in and they're moving other people's furniture around this house.

[00:47:03] But they're going to call the moving trucks.

[00:47:06] They're going to get it all cleared out.

[00:47:08] And they're going to refill the house with their own furniture.

[00:47:11] And that's what you need.

[00:47:12] You need time for it to turn over.

[00:47:14] I wouldn't panic because it's not like your division is getting away from you.

[00:47:21] You're a few good moves between now and a trade deadline, player development through the rest of this year, scouting, drafts.

[00:47:31] You're in the mix for 10 and 7 next year in your division and you can potentially win it.

[00:47:36] Because like you talked about the hot seat.

[00:47:39] Yeah.

[00:47:40] Dougie P is on a hot seat.

[00:47:42] So that means Jacksonville – Jacksonville is on a different kind of rebuild because they can't even get away –

[00:47:47] get rid of their most expensive piece of furniture.

[00:47:49] Well, they just –

[00:47:50] That's their best offensive lineman, you know.

[00:47:54] That ain't nothing to do with how much money they give it to –

[00:47:56] No, I know.

[00:47:57] But you know, I mean –

[00:47:58] Every set is going to be a little difficult because they have so much of their percentage of their cap tied in this one guy.

[00:48:04] Tennessee, you can go clean slate, everything out of the crib, and it's remodeling in every room from the bathroom to the garage to the game room.

[00:48:16] You can put whatever you want in there with the new GM and the new coach because you're looking like none of these pieces really fit.

[00:48:23] Or these 12 pieces fit.

[00:48:26] These five fit over here.

[00:48:28] These seven fit.

[00:48:29] But these 17 pieces don't fit to include Will Leathers.

[00:48:33] So, you know, you brought up – we were having a conversation about Devontae Adams,

[00:48:37] and you brought up some of the reasons why you didn't think that he would fit in Baltimore.

[00:48:42] Right.

[00:48:43] I think Baltimore got a receiver today that fits.

[00:48:45] I don't think it fits.

[00:48:47] I don't think the receivers fit in Baltimore.

[00:48:49] It's just his attitude.

[00:48:50] What's his attitude going to be?

[00:48:52] His attitude – there hasn't been much to happen to him in his football life to improve the attitude that he had from that play last year when the fumble happened and he walked.

[00:49:03] Like nothing's happened.

[00:49:05] Like people talked about Stephon Diggs, like I'm bringing up again.

[00:49:08] Yeah, up for the season, by the way.

[00:49:10] That's very sad.

[00:49:11] But when he was in Minnesota and he got traded to Buffalo, he just needed a change of scenery.

[00:49:17] And then he came in and he knew I'm the number one guy.

[00:49:21] He had a stud at quarterback, and he made that quarterback better.

[00:49:25] Mm-hmm.

[00:49:26] Deontay Johnson didn't like the quarterback situation last year in Pittsburgh.

[00:49:31] Right.

[00:49:32] Decided to sign with Carolina.

[00:49:34] That's the decision.

[00:49:35] That's the choice you made.

[00:49:37] You decided to go –

[00:49:37] I thought he got traded.

[00:49:38] So, you could have – like, nah, I'm not going there.

[00:49:42] Whatever you – whatever you had to –

[00:49:44] I don't think he has that type of clout.

[00:49:46] Yo, it's not even that.

[00:49:48] It's like, yo, I'm holding out and make Carolina trade you.

[00:49:53] Like, I'm not coming here.

[00:49:54] But you went there anyway, and you're already gone.

[00:49:57] So, obviously, he didn't want to go.

[00:49:59] Right.

[00:50:00] Now he's in Baltimore.

[00:50:01] I don't know where he fits in Baltimore because is he a number one guy?

[00:50:04] Does he consider himself a number one guy?

[00:50:06] No.

[00:50:06] Is he a number two guy?

[00:50:07] Is Bateman a number two guy?

[00:50:09] I know Bateman left the ball hit him right in the face.

[00:50:11] Even though he's always on Twitter talking about, throw me the damn ball.

[00:50:14] He threw you the ball, and you fell down.

[00:50:16] But you hit yourself in the middle of the field and the ball hit you in the face,

[00:50:19] and you dropped it.

[00:50:20] Like I said, I like Lamar.

[00:50:22] But if you're a wide receiver and you want to just run your –

[00:50:27] if you don't want to be in scramble mode all the time,

[00:50:30] then like Baltimore's not for you.

[00:50:32] And I like Lamar.

[00:50:33] I think Lamar's a great playmaker.

[00:50:36] But if you're a number one guy,

[00:50:38] you're always going to be second fiddle to Lamar's playmaking.

[00:50:41] Like you catching the ball isn't going to be you catching the ball.

[00:50:45] It's going to be Lamar made a play to get you up.

[00:50:46] Well, I think he fits as the two because, you know, you figure –

[00:50:50] no, just Flowers is their best receiver.

[00:50:53] But just going off of the structure, using height and all that kind of stuff,

[00:50:58] Bateman is probably the true number one, you know, this season

[00:51:01] with Flowers' main role in the slot.

[00:51:05] So that's what I'm saying.

[00:51:06] But Flowers probably thinks he's the number one.

[00:51:09] Bateman wants to be the number one.

[00:51:11] And so does Deontay.

[00:51:12] So now you just gave Lamar a guy who does not operate well

[00:51:17] because you're number one wide receiver.

[00:51:20] You just gave them another problem.

[00:51:23] Baltimore, you're – stop it.

[00:51:25] It was a bad dream.

[00:51:27] I'm calling it now.

[00:51:29] I'm calling it now.

[00:51:30] It won't work.

[00:51:31] The New England Patriots just gave me another problem

[00:51:33] because why the hell they give Kansas City Josh Ushay?

[00:51:39] Like why do these teams answer the phone when these teams call?

[00:51:43] Like back when Bill Belichick –

[00:51:44] Like don't call, don't answer his call?

[00:51:46] Yeah, like back in the day when Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, you know,

[00:51:49] were running the Patriots, it was like, yo, if I see a Boston area code,

[00:51:54] I'm not answering the phone.

[00:51:55] If I see a Kansas City, I'm not answering the phone.

[00:52:00] I'm just not.

[00:52:01] You know what I mean?

[00:52:01] So now their defense, which is already great, gets even better.

[00:52:06] Why?

[00:52:07] Why'd you do it?

[00:52:08] After they just got DeAndre Hopkins.

[00:52:12] These trades don't make a lot of sense to me unless they're looking at –

[00:52:16] unless you're exclusively looking at your own books.

[00:52:18] Well, for Ushay, he's their best defensive player right now

[00:52:21] that's not named Christian Gonzalez.

[00:52:23] And they gave him up for a 2026 six-round pick.

[00:52:28] So not even this next draft.

[00:52:30] Yeah, but if New England feels like they're in rebuild mode,

[00:52:35] if you know – and I think if you have foresight –

[00:52:39] Yeah.

[00:52:40] And you know, hey, we are going to be in rebuild mode

[00:52:46] starting the beginning of the 2024 season.

[00:52:48] We're going to try it out.

[00:52:50] We're going to see if we can make it work.

[00:52:52] But it's like, I'm not paying the guy.

[00:52:56] Didn't the Patriots GM come from Kansas City?

[00:53:00] Don't think so.

[00:53:02] I think he came from – no, the Houston GM came from –

[00:53:06] from the Patriots.

[00:53:07] I think the Browns GM came from Kansas City.

[00:53:11] But you might be right there too.

[00:53:14] Yeah, it was the Browns.

[00:53:16] I keep – I don't know who I'm thinking about.

[00:53:19] I keep thinking about somebody.

[00:53:21] I don't know.

[00:53:22] All right, anyway.

[00:53:23] So –

[00:53:23] Yeah, well, like I said, like I'm not –

[00:53:25] I don't want to –

[00:53:25] I wouldn't want to tie up defensive end money

[00:53:29] because we always talked about these contracts.

[00:53:30] These contracts aren't –

[00:53:37] it's like –

[00:53:38] it's like this guy wants to get paid on how well he can –

[00:53:44] if he's our number one pass rusher on this team.

[00:53:47] He's going to want number one pass rusher money.

[00:53:50] It's irrelevant what T.J. Watt does,

[00:53:54] what Michael Parsons does.

[00:53:55] It's like me on this team, this is what I do.

[00:53:58] I want this much money.

[00:54:00] And it's like we know we're not going to pay it.

[00:54:03] Ship them out here and build for the future.

[00:54:07] Would it have sent them to Tampa Bay instead?

[00:54:10] Probably.

[00:54:11] All right.

[00:54:12] Well, of course, you know, that ain't the only football going on.

[00:54:17] You know, we got some college football going on.

[00:54:20] And I know conference play started weeks ago.

[00:54:22] But I am declaring this week as the week that the conference races begin.

[00:54:27] All right, Mike's about to get in his bag.

[00:54:29] So let's kick over the moderator part.

[00:54:31] Keep going.

[00:54:31] Because as I look at it, you know, and we'll get to the game in a second,

[00:54:35] but Texas A&M is now the only undefeated team in the SEC.

[00:54:40] They beat LSU the other night.

[00:54:42] So you got LSU with one conference loss.

[00:54:45] You got Georgia with one conference loss.

[00:54:48] You got Texas with one conference loss.

[00:54:51] So, you know, I was just playing around earlier, messing around with some stuff.

[00:54:55] And it was like, what happens if LSU, Texas, A&M, and Georgia all finish with one conference loss?

[00:55:06] Because only two teams can get to the conference championship game.

[00:55:10] So what happened?

[00:55:11] The tiebreakers.

[00:55:12] Hold on.

[00:55:13] The differential.

[00:55:14] We going to get there?

[00:55:15] We going to get there?

[00:55:16] You know, so like this is the problem, though, you know what I mean?

[00:55:20] Because, you know, A&M plays Texas to close the season.

[00:55:25] So, you know, if Texas wins that game, A&M wins out since, you know, up until then.

[00:55:30] You know, Georgia wins out, of course.

[00:55:33] You know, Texas wins out.

[00:55:34] So, you know, then you get into it and LSU wins out.

[00:55:38] So the first tiebreaker is head-to-head amongst the teams, you know, which you can't really do because they didn't all play each other.

[00:55:46] So in this scenario, Texas would have beat A&M.

[00:55:50] Georgia would have beat Texas.

[00:55:53] A&M would have beat LSU, but LSU didn't play the rest of them.

[00:55:56] So do you just eliminate LSU, I guess, from that scenario?

[00:55:59] But then the second tiebreaker is your record versus all common conference opponents.

[00:56:07] So now we got to scrub and see who all played who and how that works out.

[00:56:12] You know, then it's the record against the best or the highest is how it's worded, the highest common opponent.

[00:56:21] So now we just playing games.

[00:56:23] You know what I mean?

[00:56:24] So, like, where does Alabama sit down?

[00:56:26] You've had for a couple of years, it's like, does the SEC get favorable voting so at the end of the year when they make the argument, it's Alabama lost to a number 16 Ole Miss?

[00:56:42] Even though Ole Miss was, you know, 16 when they were 16, you know, 16 when there was undefeated.

[00:56:49] I think that year it was a conversation.

[00:56:52] Houston was, like, seven.

[00:56:54] Like, I remember this conversation because, like, the year I first got my job and I was taking my breaks outside.

[00:57:00] And Houston was undefeated.

[00:57:03] And, like, Cincinnati was undefeated.

[00:57:05] But Houston was 22.

[00:57:07] And Cincinnati was, like, eight.

[00:57:09] But Ole Miss had, like, two losses.

[00:57:12] Mississippi State had a couple losses.

[00:57:13] But they were all between, like, 15 and 18.

[00:57:16] And it's like, why does it seem like these – oh, that was – oh, he dropped the ball.

[00:57:23] Good job.

[00:57:25] So we had a guy – yeah.

[00:57:27] So he dove in the second base.

[00:57:29] He was going to be out on that double attempt.

[00:57:31] But he slid head first into the second baseman, caught the ball, went to apply the tag.

[00:57:37] Ball popped out.

[00:57:38] It hit him in the head.

[00:57:39] No.

[00:57:40] Did he punch it out?

[00:57:41] He had his head down.

[00:57:44] Punched it out.

[00:57:45] The glove hit the bag.

[00:57:47] And the ball came out.

[00:57:48] But that was a perfect throw from right field.

[00:57:53] All right.

[00:57:54] So then – so after all that, if that doesn't break the tie, then you have point differential.

[00:58:02] And then –

[00:58:03] Against common opponents or point differential?

[00:58:05] Against all conference opponents.

[00:58:08] And then, you know, then it's a random draw.

[00:58:12] So whereas – but in the Big Ten, it's actually a coin toss if it goes that far.

[00:58:16] You know, but – so in the Big Ten this week, Happy Valley is the site.

[00:58:21] The Buckeyes are coming in.

[00:58:23] You know, Penn State, James Franklin, 1-9 against Ohio State.

[00:58:27] Hasn't beat Ohio State since 2016.

[00:58:30] You know, if Penn State gets that win, they might be stamping their ticket to the Big Ten title game.

[00:58:38] You got Oregon on the other side.

[00:58:39] But there's a team in Bloomington, Indiana who's undefeated as well.

[00:58:49] You know, they're getting their quarterback back this week.

[00:58:52] You know, then you look at the ACC.

[00:58:54] You got Miami and Clemson undefeated.

[00:58:59] And SMU and Pitt.

[00:59:03] You know, so SMU and Pitt play each other this weekend.

[00:59:07] You know, so this is the week that we're going to start to see some definition.

[00:59:11] Clemson has Louisville coming in.

[00:59:13] But let's get back to these games real quick, Mr. Logical.

[00:59:16] Oh, I didn't want to leave out the Big 12.

[00:59:18] My bad.

[00:59:18] I don't want to leave out the Big 12.

[00:59:20] You know, Iowa State and BYU undefeated.

[00:59:24] Kansas State, one loss.

[00:59:29] One loss.

[00:59:32] Can you imagine if Colorado gets into that Big 12 championship game?

[00:59:40] Well, a lot has to kind of pan out.

[00:59:44] Not necessarily because they don't play.

[00:59:47] They don't play BYU.

[00:59:49] They don't play Iowa State.

[00:59:52] Do you believe?

[00:59:54] You know what I'm saying?

[00:59:55] Like, so they lost to Kansas State already.

[00:59:57] Kansas State has the tiebreaker.

[00:59:59] You know, so Kansas State plays Iowa State to close the season.

[01:00:03] You know, BYU just off and never, never, never land.

[01:00:06] And just playing whoever the Big 12 wants to put in front of them.

[01:00:10] You know, so the Big 12, and we talked about this before the season.

[01:00:14] You know, like there were six or seven teams that we thought could win the Big 12.

[01:00:19] Yeah, my team, I thought could win it.

[01:00:21] But the 30-year-old quarterback keeps falling apart.

[01:00:24] Yeah, and they lost to Houston last weekend as well.

[01:00:27] You know, but look at that BYU, right?

[01:00:29] Look at that BYU, right?

[01:00:30] They got a bye this week.

[01:00:32] They go to Utah next week.

[01:00:34] You know, Kansas, Arizona State, and Houston.

[01:00:37] Yo, shout out to college football rivalries.

[01:00:41] Get the Holy War.

[01:00:42] Watch that game if you get a chance.

[01:00:45] It is one of the best college football rivalries in the country,

[01:00:49] and it has been for a very long time.

[01:00:51] Right.

[01:00:51] I know people don't really rock with it because it's way out in the Wasatch,

[01:00:55] way out in the 801, you know what I mean?

[01:00:58] Way out there in the mountains.

[01:01:00] And that's the thing, right?

[01:01:02] Like, so when you look at it, Iowa State and BYU don't play each other this year.

[01:01:06] Neither one plays Colorado.

[01:01:09] Kansas State plays Iowa State to close the season,

[01:01:13] and they already beat Colorado.

[01:01:15] So we're in this scenario where these conferences are so big

[01:01:20] that these teams can't play each other.

[01:01:23] You know what I mean?

[01:01:24] So now you got to get into all this fuckery just to have a conference championship game,

[01:01:29] which I think needs to go away anyway.

[01:01:31] But that's a whole other conversation for another day.

[01:01:34] I don't like it.

[01:01:35] It's just a money grab.

[01:01:38] I like it because I think it just kind of adds another layer of suspense as a fan.

[01:01:47] Like, I like to watch the other – I like to watch the extra game.

[01:01:52] The thing that's got to like – the thing that's going to kind of like –

[01:01:55] If I'm Oregon and I got to play Ohio State for the Big Ten title,

[01:01:58] I'm like, you already beat you.

[01:02:00] Yeah, cool.

[01:02:01] That's great.

[01:02:01] I already beat you.

[01:02:02] Get out of here.

[01:02:03] But if you're Oregon and you had lost Ohio State and then you get your chance for a rematch,

[01:02:07] you'd want to play that game.

[01:02:09] So you can't just be like, oh, because we won, we don't want to deal with this.

[01:02:13] Well, I'm not talking about – I'm just saying.

[01:02:15] Like, at the end of the day, it's just a money grab.

[01:02:17] Like, you need it probably now just because of all these teams that I'm talking about.

[01:02:23] Like, you know, you can't just have like four undefeated teams and be like,

[01:02:26] we're not going to have a conference championship game.

[01:02:28] But, you know, but at the same time, like, that's why you just play each other.

[01:02:32] Like, the SEC – and that's the other advantage that the SEC has.

[01:02:35] We talked about this last year.

[01:02:37] The SEC is still playing eight conference games and everybody else is playing nine.

[01:02:41] So, I don't know.

[01:02:43] But anyway, you know, so LSU, you know, went down to A&M this past weekend.

[01:02:48] They got the Molly Watt put on them.

[01:02:51] My guy, you know, Nussmeyer, had his Anthony Richardson numbers, you know,

[01:02:56] said 25 of 50.

[01:02:59] 25 of 50.

[01:03:01] Yeah, you should never throw 50 passes in a game.

[01:03:03] With two touchdowns and three interceptions, all interceptions in the second half.

[01:03:07] So, I've heard some people criticizing LSU.

[01:03:11] And I think that this criticism isn't valid, but I just wanted your opinion on it.

[01:03:15] So, I've heard people say, well, hey, Texas A&M put Marcel Reed in the game.

[01:03:19] Marcel Reed has played this season.

[01:03:21] Why wasn't LSU prepared for Marcel Reed?

[01:03:25] I don't think these teams are really sitting out here spending eight hours on backup quarterbacks.

[01:03:31] All right.

[01:03:32] And we talked about this in the pre-medium.

[01:03:34] And I immediately had something for you.

[01:03:38] And it relates to, like, my son's high school football team.

[01:03:42] They played a game last Saturday afternoon.

[01:03:47] It was very hot and dusty.

[01:03:48] The field was kind of, you know, substandard.

[01:03:51] But it is what it is.

[01:03:52] But the team that they played, their starting quarterback got hurt a few weeks back.

[01:03:59] I think our season's ninth games, the quarterback got hurt a few weeks back.

[01:04:03] So, all the film was a different guy playing quarterback.

[01:04:08] And they were just running the ball.

[01:04:10] They didn't throw it because they didn't have another quarterback.

[01:04:13] So, in the warm-ups, my son was telling me they had their backup quarterback doing all the drills, warming up, throwing the ball, doing everything.

[01:04:23] And then they brought in one of their wide receivers to take direct snaps and do, like, inside handoffs and occasionally throw the ball.

[01:04:33] So, it did kind of throw them off a little bit because the speed was different.

[01:04:37] Because on film, they were expecting a different guy to back up the guy that was injured.

[01:04:42] And then they were watching a different guy warm up.

[01:04:45] And then when the game started, they brought in this ringer who was, like, the wide receiver.

[01:04:50] And he was taking snaps.

[01:04:52] So, it kind of threw them off.

[01:04:54] They had it figured out.

[01:04:55] And they got, you know, some sacks and some other impact plays.

[01:04:58] But, like, eventually, you got a speedy wide receiver, a couple of missed tackles.

[01:05:02] He knows how to operate an open field.

[01:05:04] He got a long touchdown run.

[01:05:05] And that was essentially the game.

[01:05:08] But I don't think teams are preparing for the backup guy.

[01:05:12] It's just that if you prepare for what you're going to do to the starting defense,

[01:05:17] then the quarterback is essentially irrelevant.

[01:05:20] If I know this is how I'm going to attack the other team's defense,

[01:05:25] because this is where I'm going to get my points.

[01:05:27] I'm not getting my points on defense.

[01:05:29] I'm getting 28 to 35 points on offense.

[01:05:32] So long as I'm prepared to attack the defense,

[01:05:37] then I'll figure out the quarterback as it goes along.

[01:05:39] Because a good defensive scheme works against any quarterback.

[01:05:45] Getting to the quarterback, no matter who it is, works.

[01:05:49] Getting at his feet, getting hits on him, getting pressures on him,

[01:05:53] pressure up the middle, making the pocket collapse on him,

[01:05:56] no matter who you are.

[01:05:59] From Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Jordan Love, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton, Tommy Frazier,

[01:06:06] no matter who the quarterback is, if your defensive pressure creates an uncomfortable pocket for them,

[01:06:14] then you'll be fine.

[01:06:16] So you have to do that.

[01:06:19] So no matter who's in there, and if they bring in a running quarterback,

[01:06:22] the standard is, all right, cool, contain.

[01:06:25] Keep them in the pocket.

[01:06:27] Make them make throws in the pocket.

[01:06:28] Stay in your rush lanes.

[01:06:30] Maintain wrestling integrity.

[01:06:31] And you're fine.

[01:06:33] And like I said, when I talked about my son's game,

[01:06:36] when they maintain their wrestling integrity,

[01:06:39] and he had to get outside,

[01:06:42] and my son plays like outside linebacker safety role.

[01:06:45] He's like kind of all over the place.

[01:06:46] When everybody maintained and held up on their edges,

[01:06:50] he was allowed to come downhill and make the play.

[01:06:53] So he had a few sacks that game because when guys maintained,

[01:06:58] it was like, listen, you know what's a running quarterback.

[01:06:59] You know what's a throw?

[01:07:01] Just stay here.

[01:07:03] You keep filling these gaps.

[01:07:04] Push them to the sideline.

[01:07:06] When he goes for the stiff arm, go low because he's a runner.

[01:07:10] Just maintain your basic keys, and you'll be fine.

[01:07:15] It'll all work out.

[01:07:17] Oh, I got some concern.

[01:07:18] I don't know if you share these concerns,

[01:07:21] but I'm concerned about Ohio State.

[01:07:25] I watched them play Nebraska the other day,

[01:07:29] and if Nebraska wanted to win the game,

[01:07:33] they would have won the game by 17 points.

[01:07:36] You know, they outrushed Ohio State, outgave them.

[01:07:40] You know, Ohio State was already down because I talked about in our preview

[01:07:45] about how their left tackle was out for the season.

[01:07:49] So, of course, that's going to take some time to get used to that,

[01:07:52] you know, depending on his experience.

[01:07:54] I believe he's a true freshman.

[01:07:56] Real quick, let's get an update.

[01:08:01] Gleyber Torres, three-run home run, bottom of the eighth,

[01:08:07] Yankees lead 10-4 over the Dodgers.

[01:08:11] Damn.

[01:08:13] All right.

[01:08:14] You know, but basically at the end of the day,

[01:08:18] Ryan Day ain't built for this.

[01:08:20] You know, he's not built for the pressure cooker that is Columbus, Ohio.

[01:08:25] He got to stop dying his beard.

[01:08:26] What was that?

[01:08:28] Once he stopped dying his beard and he stops giving a fuck about the optics

[01:08:33] and starts just coaching all the five-star and four-star talent that he gets

[01:08:38] simply because they have the Buckeye Leaf on their helmet, he'll be fine.

[01:08:43] But he keeps buying into the pressure.

[01:08:45] He's listening to the radio.

[01:08:47] He's listening to the podcast.

[01:08:49] Yeah, you remember last year when they beat Notre Dame,

[01:08:51] and he's like, where's Lou Holtz?

[01:08:53] Yeah.

[01:08:54] Yeah.

[01:08:54] You had 10 dudes on the field, and you shouldn't even have been in that predicament

[01:08:59] where you needed that kind of play.

[01:09:00] That's the problem.

[01:09:02] I can tell by the fact that he keeps dying his beard.

[01:09:05] He cares too much about what's going on outside of his program,

[01:09:09] and that's what's going to be his downfall.

[01:09:11] If they slip up against Penn State, he could call it.

[01:09:14] He just might.

[01:09:15] Right.

[01:09:15] And when I look at Ohio State, I believe that teams react to their coaches,

[01:09:21] whether that's your gestures, whether it's your facial expressions, whatever it might be.

[01:09:25] Absolutely.

[01:09:25] He walks around like he just got an enema, and the game can't end quick enough for him to get to the toilet.

[01:09:32] And you see the players get psyched.

[01:09:34] The coaches panic.

[01:09:36] Yeah.

[01:09:37] The players know what stress looks like.

[01:09:41] The players have lived with parents who went through stress.

[01:09:43] The players have been stressed themselves.

[01:09:45] The players have looked in the eyes of their teammates.

[01:09:47] They know what stress looks like.

[01:09:49] You have to be like, you know what?

[01:09:52] This is my job.

[01:09:54] This is the moments that we came out here for.

[01:09:57] Shout out to that white boy from Detroit.

[01:09:59] I mean, you only give one shot.

[01:10:02] A lot of chance to blow.

[01:10:04] Because sometimes, like, that's what it boils down to.

[01:10:06] Yeah.

[01:10:06] And it's like, there's no way that Ohio State, with the talent that they have,

[01:10:12] especially where they have it, some teams are really great skill position-wise.

[01:10:17] Like, a lot of the HBCUs, we talked about it.

[01:10:20] Like, wide receiver, corner, safety, linebacker.

[01:10:24] A lot of speed positions.

[01:10:25] They're solid.

[01:10:26] Not great in the trenches.

[01:10:28] It's not a lot of big, you know, four- or five-star guys in the trenches that go to HBCUs.

[01:10:34] But the skill positions, man for man, you got four-two guys, four-three guys all over HBCUs.

[01:10:40] When it comes to Ohio State, they have best trench players.

[01:10:44] They have the best offensive linemen.

[01:10:46] They probably have the best facilities in the Big Ten.

[01:10:48] I mean, with Oregon coming in with that field night money, it might be a little different.

[01:10:53] But they probably have such an advantage before the ball's even blown into play on the opening kickoff.

[01:11:02] They, under Ryan Day, they don't play like it.

[01:11:04] Under Urban Meyer, they play like it.

[01:11:06] Under him, it's like so many other things are just bothersome.

[01:11:11] You had CJ Stroud, Chris Alive, Garrett Wilson, Marvin Harrison Jr., all in the same team.

[01:11:19] And then when there was a championship.

[01:11:22] You know, and got punked, you know what I'm saying?

[01:11:25] And then you got, you know, most of those things you were talking about, skill positions, four-threes.

[01:11:32] That does not apply to Navy.

[01:11:36] Man, I'm just...

[01:11:37] I tried to tell y'all.

[01:11:40] I wanted to be optimistic.

[01:11:42] And like I said, I...

[01:11:44] And maybe I was kind of encapsulated in the Heisman conversation about this whole special season.

[01:11:50] And you have these opportunities to make these marks, so forth and so on.

[01:11:54] I just...

[01:11:57] I want the service academies to, like, get a big win.

[01:12:01] I want them to...

[01:12:03] I want them to throw a monkey wrench into this 12-team playoff plan.

[01:12:06] And I don't want NCAA and the college football playoff committee to be like, you know what?

[01:12:12] Hey.

[01:12:13] We're going to just put them out.

[01:12:14] They're still home.

[01:12:14] Even though you put them on the field.

[01:12:17] Like we talked...

[01:12:17] And I think probably one of the greatest examples of that is the Boise State Oklahoma.

[01:12:23] Adrian Peterson was on that team.

[01:12:26] The year that Zombrowski and Ian Johnson beat them with the Statue of Liberty plays.

[01:12:32] Like, put them on the field and let's see what happens.

[01:12:36] You know they was mad.

[01:12:36] My man scored a touchdown and then went and proposed to his girl.

[01:12:40] Right on the sideline.

[01:12:41] You know what I'm saying?

[01:12:42] No, but...

[01:12:43] They still together.

[01:12:44] They got kids and everything.

[01:12:45] You know, but of course, like I said, there's hope, though.

[01:12:48] Because I think that Army...

[01:12:49] Like I said this the other day.

[01:12:50] I think Army's the better matchup for Notre Dame, though.

[01:12:53] You know what I'm saying?

[01:12:53] Not saying Army's going to beat them.

[01:12:55] But I just think Army matches up a little bit better than Navy does.

[01:12:57] I think...

[01:12:58] You know, but anyway...

[01:13:00] You know, shout out.

[01:13:02] Aaron Judge got a hit in an RBI.

[01:13:04] Oh, good for him.

[01:13:05] It's about damn time he decided to show up.

[01:13:07] Oh, and boom.

[01:13:08] Just like Residente.

[01:13:09] About time you got here.

[01:13:11] You know what I'm saying?

[01:13:12] But...

[01:13:12] Oh, yeah.

[01:13:13] Where's Q?

[01:13:14] Oh, but anyway.

[01:13:16] So, you know, shout out to Boulder, Colorado.

[01:13:19] You are going bowling.

[01:13:21] You know, beat on Cincinnati the other day.

[01:13:24] You know, congrats.

[01:13:26] I have to say this.

[01:13:27] Let me be serious for a moment.

[01:13:31] Congratulations, Miami.

[01:13:32] You were the better team.

[01:13:35] You know, you owned us the other night.

[01:13:38] Even though Cam Ward looked a little average.

[01:13:40] But...

[01:13:42] Congratulations.

[01:13:43] You know...

[01:13:44] Yeah, I believe that was the one that said they was going 8-4.

[01:13:47] Come on now.

[01:13:48] Don't do me like that.

[01:13:50] You know what I'm saying?

[01:13:50] But anyway...

[01:13:52] Interrupted my apology.

[01:13:53] I was trying to give Miami some credit.

[01:13:55] But that's enough of that.

[01:13:56] You know, Drew Aller.

[01:13:59] You know, questionable for this Ohio State game.

[01:14:02] You know, Bo Fribula.

[01:14:06] Came in and led two touchdowns.

[01:14:09] You know, against Wisconsin to get up out of Camp Randall.

[01:14:12] You want to know the life...

[01:14:14] What it's like being a Marylander?

[01:14:16] Let's hear it.

[01:14:17] It's almost like being an Atlanta Falcon fan.

[01:14:22] You know what I mean?

[01:14:22] You beat USC one week.

[01:14:24] Come back from 21-7.

[01:14:26] And then you go lose by 25 to the Minnesota Golden Gophers.

[01:14:30] That's the life of a Marylander.

[01:14:32] Minnesota has some stars.

[01:14:33] I mailed your...

[01:14:35] Your Washington Commander's locker room plate.

[01:14:38] And I walked to the post office.

[01:14:41] The guy was like...

[01:14:42] Yeah, we don't do that here.

[01:14:45] You know, SMU does it again.

[01:14:48] Somehow, they beat Duke even though they had six turnovers.

[01:14:53] You know, they blocked Duke's game winning field goal.

[01:14:55] They won in overtime.

[01:14:56] Duke went for two on the first possession.

[01:14:59] They went for two on the first possession.

[01:15:02] And when asked about it, head coach Manny Diaz turned around and said,

[01:15:06] you try to win the game in the first inning if you can.

[01:15:10] Except for it didn't work and SMU won because they scored the touchdown and kicked the extra point.

[01:15:16] And oh, by the way, Manny Diaz against Miami this weekend.

[01:15:22] I'm going to leave that on the screen for Mr. Logical for when he gets back here.

[01:15:26] You know, also, I've been saying this for a long time, so I'm going to just say it one more time.

[01:15:33] In the last three years, Akron has had three straight two-win seasons.

[01:15:40] They just got their second win of the season the other day, so we got a few weeks to get a third one.

[01:15:46] Where you at, LeBron?

[01:15:47] Where's the NIL?

[01:15:49] Listen, he out there buying books, not football helmets.

[01:15:52] Akron!

[01:15:54] Akron!

[01:15:55] He's going to be a great pro.

[01:15:57] Come on, Mike.

[01:15:58] Come on, Mike.

[01:15:59] I told you I had to leave it up there for you.

[01:16:02] You know, Kurt Sigmundi.

[01:16:03] He's going to be a great pro.

[01:16:04] He's a great young man.

[01:16:05] I think he's established.

[01:16:06] He has a great relationship with his girlfriend.

[01:16:08] He's very positive.

[01:16:10] I think he does very smart things in his off time.

[01:16:14] I like his energy.

[01:16:15] I like his maturity.

[01:16:16] You see what Mike said?

[01:16:17] Mike said Travis Hunter is the equivalent of Kobe Bryant guarding Bruce Bowen.

[01:16:28] I'm just saying.

[01:16:29] I'm just saying.

[01:16:30] But anyway, anyway, Kurt Sigmundi.

[01:16:33] You know, the first FBS coach to ever go 8-0 at two different schools in back-to-back years.

[01:16:40] You know, shout out to James Madison.

[01:16:42] Shame on you, UTSA.

[01:16:44] You know how much I love UTSA, Mr. Logical.

[01:16:48] You know what I mean?

[01:16:48] I'm not going to be in Dallas, by the way, Mike, because you know Jerry Jones loved a star.

[01:16:54] Deion was playing both sides of the ball in Dallas.

[01:16:57] I'm pretty sure they have a lot of conversations about that.

[01:16:59] I think Deion played both sides of the ball more in Dallas than anywhere else.

[01:17:04] I don't think he played both sides of the ball in Atlanta as much as he played in Dallas.

[01:17:07] Just throwing it out there.

[01:17:10] But you know I love UTSA.

[01:17:11] You know what they did this weekend?

[01:17:14] They went up 35-7 on Tulsa at halftime.

[01:17:19] Had a 42-17 lead in the third quarter.

[01:17:24] And then got outscored 29-3 and lost 46-45.

[01:17:29] Man, it reminds me of a team I support.

[01:17:32] Yeah.

[01:17:32] Shout out to Washington State, even though you're not making the playoff.

[01:17:36] They're ranked in the top 25.

[01:17:38] You know, but they do have a win over Texas Tech.

[01:17:42] Texas Tech ain't winning the Big 12.

[01:17:44] Your at-large chances are by because you can't even get the G5 spot that Boise's going to get anyway.

[01:17:49] You know, speaking of Boise.

[01:17:52] Nah, he had more snaps than that, Mike.

[01:17:55] You know.

[01:17:55] He had way more than 10.

[01:17:57] He was running reverses and all kinds of stuff.

[01:17:59] Deion's my favorite player, so I watched.

[01:18:01] Speaking of Boise, you know, UNLV made Ashton Gentile look.

[01:18:06] You mean the other night?

[01:18:07] You know, held him under four yards to carry.

[01:18:09] You know, he still ended up with 132 yards, so it looks all good.

[01:18:13] But let me give a shout out to Jarquez Hunter from Auburn, who put up 278 yards against Kentucky,

[01:18:23] the high of the season.

[01:18:24] You know, so Ashton Gentile has not got that number.

[01:18:28] You said 200.

[01:18:28] He put out 266?

[01:18:30] 278 yards against Kentucky.

[01:18:32] The only question is, if you run for 278 yards, how do you only score 24 points?

[01:18:38] But, you know, Mark Stoops, you know, I wonder if he's on the hot seat at Kentucky.

[01:18:43] You know, he had the A&M job locked up until the A&M fans revolted as soon as they heard his name.

[01:18:48] So he had to come back on home.

[01:18:50] I wonder if it's getting a little bitter there.

[01:18:52] You know, but Auburn, you know who they played this weekend?

[01:18:59] Probably some tune-up game before they play a good game.

[01:19:03] No, they're at home.

[01:19:05] And the one and only Diego Pavia is coming through.

[01:19:08] The same Diego Pavia that came through and led New Mexico State to a 31-10 win in Jordan-Hare last year.

[01:19:16] He's coming in with Vanderbilt, who just took Texas to the wire.

[01:19:19] You know, at one point, a lot of people thought Missouri was a good team.

[01:19:25] Missouri, along with Florida State, are reasons that the top 25 is stupid.

[01:19:29] Why preseason polls are stupid.

[01:19:31] Preseason polls, yeah.

[01:19:32] Because you know why?

[01:19:33] Because when Missouri played real competition like A&M and Bama, outscored 75-10.

[01:19:39] How about that?

[01:19:40] Let's keep it a bean.

[01:19:41] If you play with Missouri on NCAA 25, it's legit.

[01:19:46] Hey, Luther Burden, Theo Weiss, they got talent.

[01:19:49] A lot of speed.

[01:19:50] A lot of speed, yeah.

[01:19:51] They got talent.

[01:19:52] And then finally, the firing continues.

[01:19:54] UCF, hashtag UCFacts, fires their defensive coordinator, Ted Roof.

[01:19:59] And Rice fired their head coach as well.

[01:20:01] And guess what, Mr. Logical?

[01:20:03] Rice gets to follow that up by playing the United States Naval Academy.

[01:20:08] So pray for them.

[01:20:09] Pray for them.

[01:20:10] Nah, I hope they put a 500 yards rushing on them.

[01:20:14] You know?

[01:20:15] So then, Mr. Logical's been giving us the updates.

[01:20:19] You know what I'm saying?

[01:20:20] Mike's still going on about Deion.

[01:20:22] Go on.

[01:20:23] He's a cornerback.

[01:20:24] He's not supposed to have a lot of touchdowns as a wide receiver.

[01:20:27] I just said he played it a lot.

[01:20:29] And I said that he did it a lot more in Dallas than he did in Atlanta.

[01:20:34] That's all I said.

[01:20:36] Go on.

[01:20:36] So he was out there running Michael Irvin's number one receiver routes.

[01:20:40] I just said he ran a lot.

[01:20:41] They gave him the ball a lot because he was a man.

[01:20:43] Hey, does Travis Hunter have the potential to be a better receiver than Deion was?

[01:20:54] Or let me rephrase because he didn't play.

[01:20:56] Does he have the talent?

[01:20:57] Does he have enough talent to be a better receiver than Deion would have been?

[01:21:03] I think what Travis Hunter has is he has the same skill set as Deion and he has Deion as a mentor.

[01:21:12] So rightfully so, I think he has potential to be better.

[01:21:17] Not like an all-time great, but I think he has the opportunity to put his skill set on display

[01:21:23] because Deion's not going to not tell him how to be a good pro.

[01:21:28] I think Deion respects him.

[01:21:29] If you look at how he carries himself, he looks like he carries interviews.

[01:21:33] You see how his teammates rally around him.

[01:21:35] Even his social media interactions are very just like young, happy, young man who loves to play football,

[01:21:44] loves to have a good time.

[01:21:45] You can tell people enjoy being around him.

[01:21:48] I think that's the thing.

[01:21:49] He doesn't have to be Deion.

[01:21:51] Why do we got to compare everything to yesterday?

[01:21:54] Well, hold on.

[01:21:55] Hold that thought.

[01:21:56] How do we do this every show, Mike?

[01:21:57] Hold that thought.

[01:21:58] Hold that thought because I'm going to make one more comparison real quick.

[01:22:02] So, Mike, this is just for Mike.

[01:22:03] This is just for Mike.

[01:22:05] Do you think Travis Hunter will be as good as, as you call him, soy sauce?

[01:22:11] And then we'll move on from that.

[01:22:13] So, we got the World Series going on.

[01:22:16] You know, Mr. Logical's been giving us the updates and the Yankees are winning tonight for some ungodly reason.

[01:22:22] But whatever.

[01:22:28] Yeah, whatever.

[01:22:29] It'll be something.

[01:22:30] When they go get Jay-Z out here to perform?

[01:22:34] Nah, Jay-Z not doing it.

[01:22:36] Jay-Z will go to the – he'll go to the – he'll rock a rap of craft and do Patriots stuff.

[01:22:41] All right.

[01:22:42] So, is this the World Series that's going to save baseball or that is going to re-bring baseball to the forefront of the American force?

[01:22:52] Because next year it can be, you know, Milwaukee versus Kansas City and nobody's going to watch just because it's baseball.

[01:23:00] We talked about how – and like I said, you and I always have this back-to-back conversation, this back-to-forth conversation in regards to the market size.

[01:23:08] Yeah.

[01:23:11] Fat Joe old, man.

[01:23:13] Like, Fat Joe damn this.

[01:23:14] Fat Joe ain't been a good rapper one day in his life.

[01:23:17] That's why I don't even understand him.

[01:23:18] Fat Joe's been a good rapper.

[01:23:19] Oh, actually, I take that back.

[01:23:22] Fat Joe was a good rapper once upon a time back when Big Pun was writing the rhymes for him.

[01:23:27] So, I do take that back.

[01:23:29] Listen, that notepad still exists.

[01:23:31] I take it back.

[01:23:32] But, yeah, so me and you going back and forth about small market versus large market.

[01:23:37] Baseball, they're probably the sport that the market size really matters because hockey market size.

[01:23:49] But hockey has a very niche fan base.

[01:23:52] Like, it's not a lot of hockey – it's not a lot of sports fans that are hockey fans where it's like there's plenty of people who like sports, who really like baseball for one reason or another.

[01:24:03] Their kid played and they played.

[01:24:06] People love football because it's just –

[01:24:10] Because it's violent.

[01:24:12] That and then you play it at so many levels.

[01:24:16] Almost every youth level gives you all the equipment you need.

[01:24:19] So, as long as you can pay the registration fees and you can find a field that's 120 yards with the ends on it, some goal posts,

[01:24:26] you can have a football league no matter how good the grass is.

[01:24:31] As long as you get the pads and the players, you can play football.

[01:24:34] Baseball is all travel now.

[01:24:36] It's very niche.

[01:24:37] So, for like the last 10 or 15 years, baseball has kind of like gone away from the community.

[01:24:44] And it's been more of a very like – it's been more like soccer.

[01:24:49] Like the way soccer has –

[01:24:51] Like elitist?

[01:24:51] It's been in America.

[01:24:52] Elitist niche.

[01:24:54] You know, like just like a very different – a different avenue except outside of America.

[01:24:58] Like I said with soccer, outside of America, you have Europe, you have Africa, South America.

[01:25:03] They play soccer as – they play soccer the way we play football in America, whereas baseball has kind of transitioned that same piece.

[01:25:12] Yeah.

[01:25:12] Like the very niche is like you – everybody isn't involved in soccer.

[01:25:18] I mean in baseball.

[01:25:19] So, as we've kind of grown accustomed to seeing football all the time, like we talked about this a couple weeks ago, it's 55 straight days of football games.

[01:25:31] There is probably 55 straight days of baseball for sure throughout the summer.

[01:25:35] I don't think anybody cared.

[01:25:38] I mean because it's just not – it's not the same – it's not the same like emotional fan connection that football gives you.

[01:25:48] Right.

[01:25:48] Right.

[01:25:49] So, that's the difference.

[01:25:50] I think people like the players, but the fact that shot the camera on for shouting this out, and I want to make sure I give them credit for that on this show, it is what it is.

[01:25:58] Well, hey, like –

[01:25:59] No one really cares because it's like it's New York versus L.A.

[01:26:04] That's driving this current popularity.

[01:26:06] Hey, 7.6 million people watched the All-Star game this year.

[01:26:10] You know, they say that numbers are doubling as far as ratings within the 39 to 44 range, whatever it was.

[01:26:18] So, people are watching more, and I think that has a lot to do with the rule changes as far as like the base stealing now.

[01:26:27] The clock, you know.

[01:26:28] So, yeah.

[01:26:29] And baseball is not –

[01:26:29] These are probably people who are already watching baseball.

[01:26:34] Yeah.

[01:26:35] Baseball probably hasn't done much to create new fans.

[01:26:41] I mean if you think about the biggest stars, Bryce Harper, he's been in the league for double-digit years.

[01:26:50] Sorry.

[01:26:52] I was watching this highlight.

[01:26:54] Luka with a three from damn near a half court.

[01:26:57] This is what I fucking do.

[01:27:03] Anthony Edwards with 24 points in the first quarter, and lo and behold, that was the only three Luka hit all game too.

[01:27:09] So, there you go.

[01:27:10] But anyway.

[01:27:11] But, yeah.

[01:27:12] So, where baseball lost me, I'll talk about myself because I was an avid baseball fan.

[01:27:19] I can just say 10 years ago.

[01:27:22] And I would even say that the Dodgers-Astros World Series of 2017 is probably the best World Series I ever watched.

[01:27:32] You know, the first World Series I ever watched was back in 88.

[01:27:35] Oakland and Cincinnati.

[01:27:35] Is that the Cheap the Scandal one or was that one afterwards?

[01:27:39] It was the Cheap the Scandal.

[01:27:40] Yeah, it was the one that Astros won.

[01:27:41] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:27:42] So, the first World Series that I ever watched, you know, in my whole life.

[01:27:47] Well, I guess it would be 89.

[01:27:49] You know, was the – I believe it was the A's and the Dodgers.

[01:27:55] You know, and it was just one of those things – oh, it was the Giants.

[01:27:59] I'm sorry.

[01:28:00] Oakland swept them.

[01:28:01] That was the Bash Brothers.

[01:28:03] You know, that was the first World Series.

[01:28:04] So, I've been watching baseball for a long time.

[01:28:06] You know, but where baseball lost me was where – luckily the Yankees haven't been winning World Series.

[01:28:14] You know, the last time they won was 2009.

[01:28:18] But the Yankees were a big – the Yankees were a big reason why I fell out of love with baseball because they would just go snatch all the players up, you know, and, you know, with no salary cap.

[01:28:30] You know, so baseball is designed for the big market like you were just talking about.

[01:28:34] Well, you know, when you look at it, this is the World Series that they've wanted for years besides the Subway Series.

[01:28:40] So, to prove that point, let's look at some ratings, right?

[01:28:43] So, you know, so far, you know, in this baseball season, you know, in this World Series, 14.5 million viewers across all networks in the United States, and then you've got Japan watching because of Shohei.

[01:28:58] You know, so 15.15 million viewers.

[01:29:02] But if you go back to it, you know, let's look at this for a second.

[01:29:06] So, let's go back to 1989 since that was the first World Series that I watched.

[01:29:12] You know, there was 15 million people that – or 25 million people that watched that World Series overall, but an average of 16.4 million viewers.

[01:29:24] The series before that was 23.9.

[01:29:26] So, if you fast forward through time, you start to see it around 2005.

[01:29:32] Dips to 11.1.

[01:29:34] Going down, going down.

[01:29:36] 7.6 in 2012.

[01:29:38] So, you know, you got the Yankees and the Dodgers right now.

[01:29:44] It was only 4.9 last year.

[01:29:46] But you've got to factor in so many people don't watch the games on TV to where Nielsen's rating can, you know –

[01:29:54] Definitely, but 19 million less?

[01:29:57] That's a lot.

[01:29:58] That's a lot of people streaming.

[01:30:00] That's a lot.

[01:30:01] Like, how many people you go to the house, they have DirecTV or Comcast or anything?

[01:30:07] I think my pops has it.

[01:30:09] Still most people that I've heard.

[01:30:10] I don't think he has.

[01:30:11] He has, like, one of the streaming – like, the Fubo or one of those apps.

[01:30:16] Like, a lot of people don't – unless those apps are reporting their numbers.

[01:30:20] Like, I watched Super Bowl on, like, Paramount and Peacock over the last few years.

[01:30:26] So, I think baseball is entertaining.

[01:30:29] I think it's still America's pastime.

[01:30:30] It's just a lot of people – a lot of adults, their children aren't playing baseball.

[01:30:39] Like, you have how many kids that play sports?

[01:30:43] Three.

[01:30:44] Three.

[01:30:45] How many of them play baseball?

[01:30:46] Zero.

[01:30:47] I have four kids.

[01:30:50] My daughter plays T-ball.

[01:30:53] My oldest son didn't play baseball.

[01:30:56] My middle son didn't play baseball.

[01:30:58] My youngest son played two years.

[01:31:00] And he's played – like, when he plays sports, he plays, like, year-round.

[01:31:05] So, he goes fall football.

[01:31:08] Then it's, like, wrestling a basketball.

[01:31:10] And then it was – he played baseball a couple times.

[01:31:13] But then it's, like, it's been more lacrosse in the spring and the summer, right back into football.

[01:31:18] Then he had wrestling a couple times.

[01:31:20] So, like, he's played sports year-round for the last eight years.

[01:31:25] And only a couple of those, you know, spring summers, it was baseball.

[01:31:29] And it's, like, it didn't lock him in the way other sports did.

[01:31:34] And that's the one who loved – like, he loves – he talks sports all the time.

[01:31:38] He talks sports concept.

[01:31:39] He loves sports.

[01:31:40] He loves playing.

[01:31:41] He loves the coaching aspect of it.

[01:31:43] He loves sports in and of itself.

[01:31:45] But even that couldn't keep him in baseball.

[01:31:48] He has a friend that plays in baseball, but he plays travel.

[01:31:51] So, we live in Jersey.

[01:31:52] I talked to the dad.

[01:31:53] He was, like, I think the furthest they went, like, he said, the last couple years,

[01:31:57] she was, like, we've done a bunch between Jersey, a couple in Pennsylvania.

[01:32:02] He's, like, we went down to Tennessee.

[01:32:05] He said then there's Cal Ripken is, like, the league they're in.

[01:32:08] They play in Maryland.

[01:32:10] And I think he said they went down to Florida.

[01:32:12] But that's all driving unless you want to fly.

[01:32:15] But a lot of times the team's caravan from Jersey down to Florida.

[01:32:20] Right.

[01:32:21] That's not always something that, you know, the average group of people do.

[01:32:26] So, but you can play great football within your state.

[01:32:30] You can play great basketball within your state.

[01:32:32] But baseball seems to, like, kind of take in the soccer route where it's, like,

[01:32:37] you got to play exclusive clubs, especially on the American side.

[01:32:40] I think baseball is changing.

[01:32:42] I think baseball is changing as America is changing, you know,

[01:32:46] from the standpoint of I'm not trying to do what I'm going to be accused of doing.

[01:32:51] Just say it.

[01:32:52] We don't care.

[01:32:53] But, you know, baseball started out as this great white sport, you know.

[01:32:58] Like, we had the separation, segregation of players and all that stuff like that.

[01:33:01] They just integrated the records this year.

[01:33:04] Right.

[01:33:04] Right.

[01:33:05] You know, so as time went on, you know, and baseball desegregated, it got popular.

[01:33:12] You know, like, you know, we grew up, you know, people like you and I watched Barry Bonds

[01:33:17] and Ken Griffey, people like that, you know, but now –

[01:33:20] I played baseball growing up.

[01:33:21] I wasn't very big.

[01:33:23] I didn't play football.

[01:33:25] I didn't have the basketball skill set.

[01:33:27] But my size on the baseball field was perfect.

[01:33:30] I played catcher.

[01:33:31] I could run.

[01:33:32] I could hit.

[01:33:32] I could steal.

[01:33:33] And right now, as we speak, Major League Baseball, the players, 6% black.

[01:33:40] You know what I mean?

[01:33:40] It wasn't eight a couple years ago.

[01:33:42] So that doesn't even –

[01:33:44] Yeah.

[01:33:45] American black.

[01:33:45] So you have, like, the Dominican and everybody else.

[01:33:48] So that doesn't even resonate with us.

[01:33:49] American-born black players.

[01:33:51] Yeah.

[01:33:51] Like, how many black people do you know besides us that watch hockey?

[01:33:56] You know what I mean?

[01:33:57] So you're all –

[01:33:58] And the thing about hockey, the hockey is the American-born black hockey player

[01:34:05] or Canadian-born black hockey player.

[01:34:07] Those numbers are going up probably at a higher rate than the baseball player.

[01:34:12] Right.

[01:34:13] But the thing is, is that, you know, as time goes on, hockey is fire.

[01:34:19] But, you know, but we don't watch it in general.

[01:34:21] Like, black people in general, I don't know many people that watch hockey.

[01:34:25] Like, Mr. Logical is literally probably the only black person I know besides myself that watches hockey.

[01:34:31] And I still don't watch hockey.

[01:34:31] You lived in Utah for a while.

[01:34:32] But I still don't watch hockey every night.

[01:34:34] It's in that nation when you go to Utah.

[01:34:36] Yeah.

[01:34:36] I still don't watch hockey every night.

[01:34:37] It is the best –

[01:34:40] It's not must-see TV.

[01:34:42] Those balls are not must-see TV for me.

[01:34:43] If you go to –

[01:34:45] If you go to –

[01:34:45] If you go to –

[01:34:46] At almost any level, upper level, youth hockey to teenage, like, 18- to 20-year-old leagues.

[01:34:56] And, like, the minor league hockey and professional hockey is probably the best sport to watch live.

[01:35:03] Well, it's like I was having a conversation with Lindsay one day.

[01:35:06] And, you know, she was asking me, like – because I listen to a lot of different music.

[01:35:11] You know, a wide range of music.

[01:35:13] But I don't really listen to a lot of country music.

[01:35:14] And so she had asked me, like, you know, well, why don't you listen to country music if you're so open to music?

[01:35:19] And I was like, because when I was younger – it's different today.

[01:35:22] But when I was younger, country music ain't want me around.

[01:35:25] It didn't feel inclusive, you know, in that way.

[01:35:28] You know, and that's how baseball feels a little bit, where it's not inclusive anymore.

[01:35:33] It's just we'll take your money.

[01:35:35] But that's it.

[01:35:36] So, you know, watching baseball is a chore on –

[01:35:40] It isn't.

[01:35:41] But, like, what you said, baseball isn't inclusive.

[01:35:43] It is an exclusive sport.

[01:35:45] It is pay for play, pay the –

[01:35:50] It's – when we talk about AAU basketball, then there's, like, another circuit.

[01:35:55] And then it's the Nike Adidas circuit.

[01:35:59] And then it's the selection there where you have –

[01:36:03] because we saw a video – I think someone posted in our group talking about how the reason

[01:36:10] that so many of these youth programs that we see on overtime are filled with former NBA players' kids.

[01:36:17] It's because it costs.

[01:36:19] You need to be able to fork over 30, 40, 50 grand potentially for coaches and things of that nature.

[01:36:27] So, like, the NBA is starting to look a lot like baseball.

[01:36:31] Except that the NBA is being funneled – like, the – it's being funneled by former black players are putting their kids into these AAUs.

[01:36:43] So, it looks like there's more – like, more American-born black players.

[01:36:47] I won't say African-American.

[01:36:48] I won't be, like, American-born black players.

[01:36:50] A lot of them are children of the other black basketball players.

[01:36:56] So, let's do something real quick.

[01:36:58] You know, if you were power ranking, where does Major League Baseball fall in your viewing guide?

[01:37:08] You know what I mean?

[01:37:09] Like, the hierarchy – if you go, it's NFL, NBA, NCAA football, then baseball.

[01:37:30] Interchange with hockey.

[01:37:31] I would – like, I think I'd probably watch more hockey games.

[01:37:35] Because the hockey game, it doesn't matter who's playing because it's just action.

[01:37:42] Because in a hockey game – hockey game is three periods, 20 minutes each.

[01:37:45] Most of your players, your star players, they're on the ice for 17 to 19 minutes.

[01:37:52] They run three or four lines deep, the power play lines, the penalty kill lines.

[01:37:57] Like, they have so many different, you know, players that have to see the ice that the number on the jersey,

[01:38:04] the name on the jersey is irrelevant because the action is exactly the same.

[01:38:07] Guys skating, chasing the puck, trying to score.

[01:38:10] Like, Sidney Crosby gets 19 minutes on the ice.

[01:38:13] Ovechkin's 19 minutes on the ice.

[01:38:15] They do their skate, skate, skate, skate, skate, skate, line change.

[01:38:18] Skate, skate, skate, skate, skate, line change.

[01:38:21] So everything that hockey – everything you want your team to be, hockey encompasses that by saying,

[01:38:28] hey, we need everybody available to play well.

[01:38:31] Because all of you are going to have to be on the ice for a little bit.

[01:38:34] Right.

[01:38:35] And don't forget –

[01:38:36] Like I said, with baseball, the youth – the youth program, the youth baseball program is travel ball.

[01:38:45] And don't forget, Ovechkin is 49 goals away from tying Wayne Gretzky.

[01:38:52] You know, like for me, it probably goes college football is number one.

[01:39:00] Then NBA.

[01:39:02] Then NFL.

[01:39:03] Premier League soccer.

[01:39:07] Premier League soccer.

[01:39:08] MLS soccer.

[01:39:09] College basketball.

[01:39:12] NHL.

[01:39:14] Baseball.

[01:39:17] See, I'm not – I don't get into college sports viewing as much as due for the extended amount of period of the year.

[01:39:24] Like I watch it probably a lot more February through April as far as college basketball than I do October to February.

[01:39:34] Yeah.

[01:39:35] And baseball, like I said, I'll dabble a bit in baseball and now we have to show up.

[01:39:39] I've looked at it a little bit more, but I can see how people come off it because your kid doesn't play.

[01:39:46] Like I have a son who plays sports.

[01:39:48] Like my son doesn't play baseball.

[01:39:51] So it's football the end of the year round.

[01:39:54] Even when he ran track, he ran track to get – to stay in shape for football because summer practice started June.

[01:40:01] So if you are a parent and you like sports and your kid doesn't play baseball, the likelihood of you spending your time watching baseball versus watching the sport that your kid participates in.

[01:40:14] That's the difference.

[01:40:15] I do think baseball is funny though because the owners operate the way that fans hate the way that players act in the NBA.

[01:40:27] So, you know, for example, so, you know, like the whole, you know, you know, Miami Heedles thing.

[01:40:35] You know, like, you know, everybody was upset because the players controlled that.

[01:40:39] You know, like the players decided this is where we want to go.

[01:40:42] We want to play together.

[01:40:44] People were upset by that.

[01:40:45] But then they're Yankees fans.

[01:40:46] And that's all the Yankees do is go out and just grab the best players.

[01:40:50] Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, all the teams with enough money and willing to spend.

[01:40:58] But some owners, like the Cubs, I think they're owned by the Chicago Tribune.

[01:41:05] I mean, that's old money.

[01:41:07] That's old money, yeah.

[01:41:08] That's old money.

[01:41:09] They could do whatever they want.

[01:41:10] Well, we were just going here a few months ago.

[01:41:12] Bro, you were talking about how the White Sox are, you know, like just a sad, pathetic excuse of a franchise.

[01:41:19] How are you that bad when you can spend all the money you want?

[01:41:23] That's all encompassing, like, what the owner wants to do.

[01:41:26] The Pirates, they sat a guy down so he wouldn't hit his bonus for bad attempts.

[01:41:31] See, and in that way for me.

[01:41:33] It was like a million dollar bonus, but the owner wants to turn his, like, $100 million profit he gets off the team every year because they don't make the playoffs.

[01:41:42] Right.

[01:41:43] So they don't make the playoffs.

[01:41:44] So basically he looks at his cash cow from-

[01:41:46] 81 home games.

[01:41:48] From March until September 30th.

[01:41:51] March 30th to September 30th.

[01:41:53] Like, this is my window to make $100 million.

[01:41:56] And then he goes with that.

[01:41:57] Whereas other teams want to carry the prestige and legacy of their franchise.

[01:42:02] I believe Magic Johnson's a part owner in the Dodgers franchise.

[01:42:07] And like I say, it's just there because you have the city.

[01:42:11] We talked about, like, concert tickets.

[01:42:14] You could have flown to Paris from New Jersey and seen Taylor Swift for cheaper.

[01:42:20] You could have gotten two tickets to Paris, an Airbnb, and two tickets to Taylor Swift in Paris, which is cheaper than you can see or hear on the East Coast.

[01:42:32] Some cities just need their teams to be good so they can sleep comfortably at night when they're charging these crazy prices.

[01:42:42] LA is going to charge you something crazy.

[01:42:44] I got to spend money to get these players here because I'm going to beat you over the head for these prices of these tickets for these 81 home games.

[01:42:53] You see, in baseball, baseball just doesn't seem, it doesn't feel pure to me.

[01:42:57] Like, you know, like the game itself is pure on the field.

[01:43:00] But when I look at it, you know, for example, let me use examples.

[01:43:04] So like in the NFL, when I look at the NFL, the Seattle Seahawks have every ability or advantage that the Pittsburgh Steelers do.

[01:43:12] It's just which front office can do better, which front office is going to hit on the draft.

[01:43:18] Right, right.

[01:43:19] All that kind of stuff.

[01:43:20] When I look at the NBA, there are a lot of players that want to go to Miami or go to LA.

[01:43:26] They want to go to New York, so on and so forth.

[01:43:28] But you can't have Jalen Brunson, LeBron, AD, Jimmy Butler, and calling in towns.

[01:43:34] Right.

[01:43:35] So baseball is set up by design for the Yankees, the Dodgers, so on and so forth to do well.

[01:43:43] You know, but the good thing about baseball is that you have these stories every so often, like the Arizona Diamondbacks that come through, get a Randy Johnson.

[01:43:53] The Royals won a couple of World Series.

[01:43:55] Yeah, you know, and that's why when you go back and look at it, you know, it's so surprising that Oakland has the third most World Series considering how awful they've been.

[01:44:06] For like last 28 years.

[01:44:08] You know, yeah.

[01:44:09] Like it's just amazing how that works.

[01:44:11] But that just goes to show you that like you might have your Arizona that comes through one year, but then they fade back or the Marlins will win the World Series and blow it all up.

[01:44:20] But I like the no salary cap in baseball because it gives you an opportunity if you are like case in point right now.

[01:44:28] Like if I'm a Japanese dude, there's three teams I'm going to play for.

[01:44:31] The Cleveland Browns right now are essentially handcuffed and hamstringed with Deshaun Watson's contract.

[01:44:40] Their own dumb decision.

[01:44:42] True indeed.

[01:44:43] But if they didn't have a salary cap.

[01:44:47] And they wanted to see if they can get Trevor Lawrence away from Jacksonville and pay both of these guys until Deshaun Watson got back healthy.

[01:44:59] They could, but they're they're strapped baseball.

[01:45:03] You can buy try to buy your way out.

[01:45:06] But there's teams.

[01:45:07] You know, we saw money ball, even though it didn't work until they went to Boston and they had actual money.

[01:45:13] But like people kind of forget that part because like the idea was great.

[01:45:18] Let me get let me get three guys in here that get me.

[01:45:22] You know, 60 home runs versus trying to get one guy that gets me 50 for 200 million dollars where I can get three guys that get me 60 for 120 million dollars between the three of them.

[01:45:36] Well, that makes a lot of sense.

[01:45:38] But you still got to deliver.

[01:45:39] The only thing I want from baseball is for the Dodgers to win tomorrow and put these motherfuckers and their pinstripes out of their misery.

[01:45:50] What?

[01:45:50] Is there something wrong with being the Yankees fan?

[01:45:52] Fuck the Yankees.

[01:45:53] For what?

[01:45:54] For the Dodgers.

[01:45:55] They're just a good, successful baseball organization.

[01:45:58] They have great food in their stadium.

[01:46:01] The garlic fries are impeccable.

[01:46:03] The Swiss cheeseburger was incredible.

[01:46:05] The stadium looks good right downtown, right in the Bronx.

[01:46:09] I love you.

[01:46:10] Take the D train from Penn Station.

[01:46:12] Boom.

[01:46:12] You're right there.

[01:46:13] It's a great, great environment.

[01:46:15] I take your children.

[01:46:17] And you know what?

[01:46:18] And I'm fine with not to leave.

[01:46:20] Don't hang out.

[01:46:21] I'm fine with not being in that stadium until March.

[01:46:25] Listen, when the game's over, get out.

[01:46:28] Get out of Dodge.

[01:46:29] Well, you can go watch games there in March and April, but get them off my TV now.

[01:46:35] Yeah.

[01:46:35] I mean, they earned their way.

[01:46:37] Sometimes you could buy it, but the Yankees buy it.

[01:46:42] Yankees put money into this process of winning the World Series every year.

[01:46:47] And we said the last time they won it was $2.

[01:46:49] Exactly.

[01:46:50] They always put the money in.

[01:46:52] So it's just a matter.

[01:46:55] You still got to get the hits.

[01:46:56] I'm not sure what the Houston playoff or Houston pay chart looks like and the percentage that they're spending.

[01:47:06] But baseball has, as far as what they do, because think about it, their games are on all the time.

[01:47:14] Right.

[01:47:14] Plenty of opportunity to see.

[01:47:17] I'm a Falcons fan.

[01:47:19] They came to Philly.

[01:47:21] I wasn't going to Philly.

[01:47:23] The closest game I would be able to get is Carolina.

[01:47:30] Do you think baseball, to Mike's point, since he just brought up Barry Bonds, do you think baseball lost a lot of black fans by not letting him in the Hall of Fame?

[01:47:39] No, I think they lost a lot of black fans when it became this pay for play.

[01:47:45] When they shifted their focus on diversity to just setting up baseball camps in the Dominican Republic and Cuba and other places where they got dark-skinned players who are Hispanic.

[01:48:03] Once they use that, then they're like, okay, cool.

[01:48:08] We'll use that for our diversity, and then we'll allow the travel program to fill the college program, and then we'll plug our players from there.

[01:48:20] Because you still can get drafted out of high school.

[01:48:23] But even with that, like I said, my son's friend who plays, he plays high school baseball, but he plays travel.

[01:48:30] And I think this year, if he wasn't playing, if he wasn't starting varsity QB, he probably would have still been playing travel baseball up until this month.

[01:48:40] Even here in Jersey, where like today being 60, 70 degrees was abnormal.

[01:48:45] So like years past, we would talk about it because we played like the youth football, and he still would be playing travel baseball concurrently with the football.

[01:48:54] So he would miss practices for baseball games, and a couple of the teammates were in the same boat because they played travel baseball.

[01:49:02] So do you think that now, you know – let me go back for a second.

[01:49:07] So the reason I keep bringing up the markets is because I think that what makes sports sports is the passion, for example.

[01:49:15] You know what I'm saying?

[01:49:17] So when you think about cities like Pittsburgh, you know, who – I don't know what Pittsburgh is known for besides their weird pizza with the sauce on top.

[01:49:25] You know what I mean?

[01:49:26] Like outside of their Steelers.

[01:49:28] I think they're big on sausage.

[01:49:31] That's like a thing.

[01:49:32] Yeah, a bunch of Germans or something there.

[01:49:36] But even like when you think about college football, you think of these little towns like Tuscaloosa.

[01:49:42] You know what I'm saying?

[01:49:43] You think of these little towns like Athens, Georgia, you know, where like that team or whatever is the identity of that city.

[01:49:50] You know, they – that's what the city exists for.

[01:49:53] That's what you know the city for.

[01:49:55] Whereas like when you look at baseball, so I asked, you know, is this the series that saved the sport?

[01:49:59] Because you got the number two – the one and two teams or cities in the United States.

[01:50:03] Markets, yeah.

[01:50:04] You know what I mean?

[01:50:05] But I don't know how it resonates.

[01:50:09] I don't think people in America like New York and L.A.

[01:50:12] I think people view both of them as very pretentious cities.

[01:50:15] So I don't think people view this World Series as well.

[01:50:19] Yeah, I definitely don't like New York.

[01:50:20] I don't have a problem with L.A.

[01:50:22] This is East Coast versus West Coast.

[01:50:24] This is like great because I think people from the outside look at each one of these cities.

[01:50:30] It's like you got Hollywood and then you got New York.

[01:50:33] And it's like these stigmas attached to both cities.

[01:50:36] They're popular and because people do – like I love New York.

[01:50:42] Like New York is my city.

[01:50:44] I'll argue this down.

[01:50:45] Like I love Vegas and other places like that.

[01:50:47] But like I love New York City.

[01:50:49] People love L.A.

[01:50:50] People from L.A., the suburbs, the outskirts of L.A.

[01:50:53] L.A. is Hollywood.

[01:50:55] People love California.

[01:50:56] I think even people from outside of the state really dig it.

[01:51:00] But they also view it as Hollywood.

[01:51:03] And then I think people like me who aren't from New York, but I really love New York.

[01:51:07] I look at it that way.

[01:51:08] You know it's popular.

[01:51:09] And because of that level of popularity, people are going to tune in.

[01:51:13] And then they have the names.

[01:51:15] They have the faces.

[01:51:16] They have the fans.

[01:51:17] Like the celebrity fans.

[01:51:19] It's just like – it's like a spectacle.

[01:51:21] It's like the Lakers versus the Knicks.

[01:51:24] Yeah, for me, I don't care about none of that.

[01:51:26] But that's the thing.

[01:51:28] The Knicks haven't really been like playoff deep running team for years.

[01:51:32] Like just consistently they haven't been NBA finals in, you know, a couple of decades.

[01:51:37] The Lakers had a couple of runs for Kobe's career ended.

[01:51:41] And then they had a couple of decent runs with LeBron.

[01:51:43] But for the most part, it's just L.A. and New York.

[01:51:47] So that is what is kind of encapsulating the audience.

[01:51:52] But like I said, next year it could be Milwaukee versus Kansas City.

[01:51:57] And see, and I would probably like that though because like I was going to say, like with the NFL, like you have identities, right?

[01:52:03] Like you got the black hole.

[01:52:04] You know, you got the 12th man in Seattle.

[01:52:07] You know, like you got the dog pound.

[01:52:10] You know, all this kind of – like baseball doesn't have those type of identities or they're not branded that way.

[01:52:15] So like I think that –

[01:52:16] But with football, football branding isn't necessarily the city.

[01:52:20] Football is the sport.

[01:52:22] Right.

[01:52:22] It's like pizza.

[01:52:24] We all love pizza.

[01:52:26] Like you can love pizza in any form all over the country.

[01:52:30] Someone with your favorite food, it's pizza.

[01:52:32] It doesn't have to be Domino's.

[01:52:35] We love football.

[01:52:37] So if the game is on, if it's Daniel Jones versus Spencer Rattler in London at 9 o'clock next Sunday, we're still going to watch.

[01:52:49] I know that's not the game, but like we'll still watch.

[01:52:51] That's why they were sending the Giants.

[01:52:53] Yeah, some reason we sent London Giants and Panthers though.

[01:52:55] But we sent the Giants like for years, even when Eli – before Eli retired and they were having those media over years, it was like we'll send the New York helmet to London because people recognize that.

[01:53:10] And they'll play Jacksonville because people in Europe love Florida.

[01:53:13] Like that was it.

[01:53:14] But it's football.

[01:53:15] You can do that.

[01:53:17] Right.

[01:53:17] When they did the exhibition in Korea, they sent the Dodgers because Korea, granted, it's the Far East.

[01:53:26] But if you think about, you know, the United States is like a lot of Asians, when they come to the United States, they end up on the West Coast between Seattle, San Francisco and L.A.

[01:53:36] So having the L.A.-based team go to Korea is like they immediately resonate with them.

[01:53:44] So it's like it's just the fact that you just – in baseball, you sell them the city and the big markets.

[01:53:50] In football, you sell them the sport of football.

[01:53:53] You give them whomever.

[01:53:55] Mark Sanchez versus Carson Wentz next week and we're going to watch that game.

[01:54:00] Mark Sanchez comes out of retirement.

[01:54:03] Carson Wentz starting for the cheese.

[01:54:05] We're going to still watch that game and see how it turns out.

[01:54:07] Yeah, shout out to the green monster.

[01:54:09] Yeah, you know, but that's where I stand on baseball.

[01:54:12] You know, it's just – I don't know what could get me back to baseball, you know,

[01:54:18] because obviously as I haven't been watching as much as I haven't been.

[01:54:23] You've got to go.

[01:54:23] You've got to –

[01:54:25] Well, no, I love going to baseball games, but I'm just talking about actually actively watching it day to day.

[01:54:31] You've got to watch it.

[01:54:32] You've got to get into it.

[01:54:34] Well, I just told you I was just watching, you know, Louisiana, the Raging Cajuns against Texas State.

[01:54:41] That's because football has you.

[01:54:43] Football has you locked.

[01:54:45] Football has you locked because it's so many teams.

[01:54:49] It's so many variables.

[01:54:50] It's so many personalities.

[01:54:52] It's so much – it's way more entertaining.

[01:54:56] Every drive in an NFL game, there is like an exciting play.

[01:55:00] There can be multiple innings in a baseball game where it's just pop-ups and ground balls that you're watching on TV.

[01:55:06] But if I'm in the building, I'm drinking a beer.

[01:55:09] I got a hot dog.

[01:55:10] I got some popcorn.

[01:55:11] I got some cotton candy.

[01:55:13] I got the ambiance.

[01:55:14] I got fans.

[01:55:16] You know, you have all these other things.

[01:55:17] Whereas football, I can watch the Hail Mary from my phone and think –

[01:55:23] like, granted, it's way more exciting to be in the building if that would have happened,

[01:55:26] but I don't feel like I've lost anything by just watching on my phone.

[01:55:30] Baseball, I can't watch a bunch of ground balls, like, all the time.

[01:55:34] Like, I couldn't watch a game where both pitchers had a no-hitter going into the seventh.

[01:55:39] Oh, and just to let you know, the Nuggets pull out a 144-139 overtime win over the Nets.

[01:55:47] Fuck defense, right?

[01:55:48] Yeah, fuck defense.

[01:55:50] Cam Thomas put up, what, 36, 37?

[01:55:52] You know, I told you the Nuggets are in trouble, man.

[01:55:54] Let's see.

[01:55:57] Real quick.

[01:55:57] So, Jokic had 29, 18, and 16.

[01:56:05] Jamal Murray had 24.

[01:56:07] Aaron Gordon had 24.

[01:56:08] Russell Westbrook had 22 off the bench.

[01:56:11] Cam Thomas had 26.

[01:56:13] Oh, that's a lot.

[01:56:14] Cam Johnson had 20.

[01:56:17] Dennis Schroeder had 28.

[01:56:20] You know, so there you go.

[01:56:22] Yeah, see, Schroeder run up on that fan for calling.

[01:56:25] Ben Simmons said, Ben Simmons, you suck anyway when he went and signed an autograph.

[01:56:29] Uh-uh.

[01:56:30] So, some kids after the Orlando game were in, like, the hallway.

[01:56:34] And then Ben Simmons walked by and didn't say, didn't do something, didn't acknowledge the kid.

[01:56:40] He's like, you trash anyway.

[01:56:42] So, Ben said, why didn't you say that when I was over there?

[01:56:44] But he was, like, walking past.

[01:56:46] Yeah.

[01:56:46] So, you hear Schroeder come by, like, yo, who sucks at the Ben?

[01:56:50] And, of course.

[01:56:50] He said she was like him.

[01:56:51] And, of course, Ben Simmons was out tonight, you know, with a sore back and everything, you know.

[01:56:56] Broke back Ben.

[01:56:57] I think he just waited for that check, the guaranteed money to run out.

[01:57:01] He's going to go back to the, you know, Australia.

[01:57:05] Yeah, go back to the Outback.

[01:57:06] Go back to the Great Barrier.

[01:57:10] All right.

[01:57:11] Well, on that note, folks, we will be back on Friday.

[01:57:15] Or, you know, potentially back on Friday.

[01:57:17] We'll see what happens.

[01:57:18] But at the very least, I'll be here on Friday with picks, picks, and more picks.

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