Welcome to our latest episode where we dive deep into the heart of NFL's NFC South! Join us as we break down the upcoming season for the teams in one of football's most competitive divisions. From the reigning champions to the underdogs looking to shake things up, we analyze the strengths, weaknesses, and key players that will define the NFC South this year. Mr. Logical shares his thoughts on Expectation Management. Two-Five is still Keeping That Same Energy!
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[00:00:07] Yes, you go down listening to the sound of Sports Reports's Ordered. We're back America and tonight we are going to be three viewing that crazy as division known as the NFC SOUTH. No idea what was going on in that division.
[00:00:28] But do be a favorite, like, review, subscribe, hit the notification bell, join the family on that little stuff I got with me. Hold on in text, raise the V.A., represent a new division and the one thing that you must remember
[00:00:45] is to not bring feelings to a fact right? Don't do it. It goes by the name of Mr. Lodge. You're down here in Alamo. We got your unorthodox status, just in going left so much. You're thought I was so far.
[00:01:05] Tell Shikurah Stevenson to watch me, tell Jake Paul to watch out for me. Two five is in the building. I think it is up against three. Lessons get this thing started. Get it off my chest. Now.
[00:01:23] So you know, you know, I did a video on this a little while ago, kind of the same topic, but I'm going to go somewhere different with it. So you know, me and Mr. Lodge who had a conversation off camera last week as well about
[00:01:37] this about keep the same energy. So you know, out there in LeBron world, when I was talking about LeBron James Jr. A.K.A., the affectionate nickname of paper towel. He was having his bat, summer league games.
[00:01:58] So me being a Washington wizard fan, maybe I was being a little sensitive of whatever. But somebody was like, yo, Alex Sars, the number two draft hit and he just went over 15. Keep that same energy. Why y'all ain't talking about it? That's nice.
[00:02:12] And this was what I said. I said, you know what we are keeping that same energy because y'all didn't want to talk about Alexander Sars. But for hand. So we're not talking about them now because keeping that energy goes both ways as
[00:02:26] Terrence Howard had let us know there's no such thing as zero. You know, everything just keeps flowing. Everything just keeps flowing. So anyway, we fast forward, right? Bronie has turned it around. You know, say he's had some good games to close out summer league.
[00:02:44] We're in the championship game tonight and guess who's there? Let's keep that same energy. We got another legends son that might be on his way to summer league MVP tonight by the way. Scottie Pippin Jr., you know who happened to start his career on the same Los Angeles
[00:03:06] Lakers, put up a triple double last night. I'm seeing it everywhere. Where's the energy? So I want to know that if I'm keeping the same energy, what the fuck are you doing? Woo! Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's the two five-sided vested in transition right into mine.
[00:03:36] Might get off my chest. I'm actually a monocard by my statistician over here as expectation management. Like you said, keeping the same energy and understanding that if you're going to talk about one side of the sport, talk about the other parts, talk about all the things that encompass
[00:03:56] it. Talk about intelligently. That's the problem. A lot of people would just kind of blow me into saying whatever they feel, whatever they feel like, no matter how fast I feel, no matter how fast I feel, no matter how fast
[00:04:04] I feel, no matter how fast I feel, no matter how fast I feel, no matter how fast I feel, I am watching a sport in an event. I want it to be good. Even if it's good, just for one side.
[00:04:15] If one side dominates the other side, then that's what I want to see. If it's back and forth, that's what I want to see. If somebody makes the play that helps their team win, that's the conversation we should have.
[00:04:29] It should be about what this individual do to help their team win. I don't want to hear about older city is boring, so I don't want to watch them play basketball. Doesn't make any sense. Oh, Tim Duncan doesn't do dope interviews. Anywhere's that shirts and baggy jeans.
[00:04:46] I don't want him to be finals MVP. Doesn't make any sense to me. Oh, Brock Perty was the last pick in a draft. He can't be MVP. Doesn't make any sense to me. Expectation management.
[00:04:58] If the baseline for MVP for quarterback running back, whatever it is is a lot of yards, a lot of touchdowns and your team wins a lot of games. You should be a consideration for the award whether it's the Heisman MVP, WBA MVP, their
[00:05:14] finals MVP no matter what it is. If there is a parameter that is set if a player is meeting that parameter, that's all the matters. It doesn't matter what city they grew in, where they got drafted, how they got on
[00:05:27] the team, how they got treated to the team, how they got out of one contract, got to another one. If you're watching them play the sport and they are performing at the sport, grade them on the sport.
[00:05:40] The bronze jeans basically took over the final minutes of the last two games with USA. They probably shouldn't have been in close games but they haven't only been playing together for a couple of weeks. Don't bring up shit that he did in Cleveland.
[00:05:53] Just be like damn this dope that he took over the game still at damn near 40. That's the conversation. The conversation is about what he didn't do at St. Vincent St. Mary's back in Ohio.
[00:06:03] If Brock Perty is going to get paid because he's going to perform like going to be paid, let him get paid. If Milwaukee and Phoenix are in the finals again, don't say you don't want to watch it
[00:06:15] because last time Phoenix was up to zero with Chris Paul, a legend on his way to his ring. Then the guy who was two time MVP came back and said watch this one fourth grade drop a 50 piece and went like 90 for 20 from the free throw line.
[00:06:31] All the criticism you had for a whole year from the time that he wanted to be. He redeemed all of that and then there it was. I don't want to watch it because it was Phoenix first Milwaukee. You didn't have to travel to the game.
[00:06:44] You could stream it. You could watch it on TV is like what do you expect? Players are supposed to make baskets. Don't be mad at them because a file didn't get called. Good quarterbacks made good throws. Don't be mad because the DB slipped.
[00:07:01] That's not the quarterbacks fault he made the throw. Like it's you guys can play in about the ship being scripted and then when it's an unorthodox meeting at the end, oh Denver is born. I don't want to see Denver versus Miami.
[00:07:13] Miami earned their way to the NBA finals last year. Never earned their way. Yoke at six foot 11 slow on athletic point center. Ween's in the ship before triple doubles finals of VP that something you should apply, you shouldn't be like. Colby would have done it better.
[00:07:28] Think that's nothing to do with fucking Colby. That's nothing to do with the top 38% doing that shit hell. It's like realistically like you said keep the same energy. Enjoy to get their sport. Watch the shows and have good conversation about the sport.
[00:07:46] Stop trying to make it look like your fantasy. No one gives a fuck about your fantasy. Whatever plays out, plays out. Let it happen and enjoy it. But if you don't understand it, put your thumbs away and let the adults have conversation about sports. Let's go. Yeah, yo.
[00:08:06] I didn't know that Mr. Logical was going to step on my toes like this. I thought I was going to be the only one cousin tonight. Man, had me going. You know what I said? Shit.
[00:08:15] I don't even know if that counts as the Mr. Logical just bring feelings to a fact fight. Yeah, tell me that. You have best stuff as I guess. Yeah, I'm just beginning. Especially in these breaks between the shows. It's like, I can't wait to talk to Michael Monday.
[00:08:37] But you know that leads us into the wild. So you got the Tampa Bay book in the ears as the defending champions of the NFC South. You know, starting off for seven last year, finished five and one down the stretch, including
[00:08:56] that all time nine to zero thriller over the Carolina Pathas, who to Mr. Logical's surprise, I am not picking the finish last in this division. Oh yeah, I'm, oh, I'm, I'm perplexed. I'm smacked. He's perplexed.
[00:09:14] But we'll get to that in a little bit because on this show, we talk about the winners first. So you know, I'm going with the Atlanta Falcons, the Winners Division. It might sound familiar to last year, but last year, I didn't know that Desmond
[00:09:28] Ritter had half a brain. He's got like that worm thing going on that happened to RFC during his head. And he's shy. His self esteem is low. He doesn't want to actually throw the football as a quarterback now Atlanta has a guy
[00:09:45] that last time we saw him, now he is coming off an injury. Correct. Looked the last time we saw him. He was leading the league and touchdowns. He was second in passing yards. And Atlanta still went and drafted another quarterback anyway.
[00:10:00] So Mr. Logical, do you agree with me? And I'm going to step out the way on this one because this is just what you know, saying, do you agree with me that the Falcons are going to win the South? No. Winners of the world.
[00:10:15] And the reason I say no is when you look at the teams that consistently win with, you know, coaching like a coach of tires and they still win, a player goes down and they still win.
[00:10:31] Offensive defensive coordinators get hired to be hey coaches of coordinators for other teams and they still win, it's because they have an identity that everybody can understand. And I'll use a user and Air Force for it from the moment when I was in basic training like
[00:10:46] first we could basically train the TIs of training instructors guys with the drill hats. Satis down and he was like, listen, all you is six is like 58 of us. So he's like 58 of you in this room.
[00:10:57] All you doing various jobs for there for some of you going to be cops and we go to be maintenance and me guys can be at the top of it for whatever the case may be.
[00:11:05] I can't bring all the elements of your job into this dorm and see if you can figure it out. But we can get 58 of you three pairs on the way. Three pairs of socks, three pair of these socks, three T shirts, four uniforms and
[00:11:20] see can you follow the rules that we give you to put this together and put it in a little locker because if you can't do that, I don't want you my Air Force.
[00:11:26] You get to hell out like so but it was a standard like so if you walked around my dorm everyone's stuff was set up the same or beds were made the same or shoes were alone the same.
[00:11:38] If the standard is expectation if someone got recycled into our dorm, they still had the same expectation. The thulkins don't have a defensive identity and they don't have players that fit it either. Like whatever they're trying to do. Okay.
[00:11:53] Offensively you drafted, you paid a quarterback and then you drafted another guy eight the world and then you spend this whole post-draft period trying to convince us that it's a good move but we don't want him to have to play.
[00:12:12] So then how does it look good move is like you're literally drafting someone who can't that you don't want to have to produce for you because that means either of the guy you
[00:12:22] paid a lot of money to came up short or got injured and you still got to give him a lot of money. Or that you just got so overwhelmed with the talent that you had to produce guy.
[00:12:33] But now you're still paying a backup, I got a whole declip board. $100 million guaranteeing $45.04 years. So we think about the Ravens. If you see the Ravens draft the guy it could be in the second round but it's like six foot five
[00:12:50] 265 outside linebacker can put his hand in dirt or playing in space. You like that makes sense. That's what the Ravens don't need that but that's the kind of player they would have so someone does
[00:13:02] go down they can bring this guy in and he just you know it's plug and play. Atlanta never does it. The last four draft picks between Drake London. Okay cow pits, Drake. Yeah cow pits, Drake London. These are Robison, Michael Pinnock's junior.
[00:13:22] They drafted four all-fins of players that they didn't need. They didn't need pits at four you probably could have traded down and got some pieces for maybe I don't know if anyone else really want to pitch that four but maybe trade down to eight
[00:13:35] get a couple more picks and still you know build something. Drake London, they didn't need to get. They drafted B. John Robison after Patterson and Al Jair both were over at 1000 yards and he drafted quarterback after you saw another one select your your identity is
[00:13:52] drafting luxury offensive pieces and hope that they can outscore but then you had a coach of the last three years Atlanta probably didn't score over at this quarter of a 30 points like four
[00:14:01] times in the three years or off this myth was the head coach even though they drafted offensive players in the first top 10 three years on a row. So their identity is let's not do it a smart way,
[00:14:15] let's do it a fresh rate of way and hope it works out. So I was not in that thing. So the good news is author Smith has gone you know enter Raheem Morris who you could have hired
[00:14:26] before you didn't who was it interim coach for the falcons before you know after Dan Quinn got again you make it moves that don't make any sense and he hopefully just works out because
[00:14:38] these guys are likable and I get it. I'm not trying to dump all of it, you know it's black head coaching the black gym consider like that number isn't a lot but in the same sense you still
[00:14:48] have to perform into your job well and so far I don't think the I don't think Terry for no is done to the job with his draft picks. For instance they drafted a defensive tackle coming off
[00:15:01] for ACL from Clemson and then the all American defensive tackle who is like four inches tall and four inches. So be fair to be fair my commanders drafted Johnny Newton and he had a
[00:15:28] surge in right after we drafted him. So to be fair you know maybe the Falcons knew something that you didn't know I don't know but you know when I look at this division the problem is
[00:15:41] I don't know what to make of anyone so so like let's talk about Tampa for a second you know you've heard me we we've gotten to a little argument a couple of weeks ago because I said yo the Milwaukee
[00:15:54] books haven't done anything like Philadelphia's tooling up around you you know Boston's paying their players the NYX a tooling up around you and you're like but I'm a good guy you're trying
[00:16:07] to do your you know to be and I'm gonna go do this whatever blah blah blah you know and that's how I look at Tampa right now as the raining defending champion of the NFC South is that they're
[00:16:17] pretty much running it back now I know they went out and got danger Jackson from Buffalo I think that's a downgrade from Carlton Davis who's now in Detroit you know the Vante Davis 34
[00:16:28] you know Mike Evans is another year older so while he still have a thousand yard seasons speaking of a thousand yard seasons you ready for this one mr logical
[00:16:38] Marin it and here it is when was and who was the last time and person that ran for a thousand yards for the Tampa Bay Bucket years work done sometime in mid 2000s. They're all brought it
[00:16:52] not that long ago is it some teams have droughts I just figured it was well starting going to it was Doug Martin it was muscle hamster yeah multiple hamsters so we're we're heading into year 10
[00:17:05] without Tampa Bay having a thousand yard rush it's like 70 like at 17 games I think it's like 70 two yards to game something and I love Rashad white I like him a lot but for whatever reason it's
[00:17:18] just not happening you know um I don't know how good of a coach Todd bulls is I know last year was a good season and partially that was due to his defense and things that they were so with
[00:17:31] the time outs is this right in the little weird and that playoff can be it right and you know they did draft jellin mignillian mignillian out of Washington who I like a lot I like all those
[00:17:43] Washington Husky receivers if you haven't noticed but you know I like him I like to pick up there you know I think that Tampa is a team that can maintain you know they gave my boy ants wand
[00:17:55] winfield you know the big contract highest paid db in the NFL first time it's a safety you know four year 81 million and why did they do that because he's the only player in the last 25 seasons with
[00:18:08] 100 or more tackles five or more forced fumbles five or more sex and 10 or more passes defended in the same season you know so they have talent but it's extreme he's talented the rest
[00:18:24] of the secondary not so much La Vante David's a good line back where they lost Jackbert who's now retired went to Miami you know they got Vita Via still who's another year older you
[00:18:35] know but but not like a whole lot of complimentary pieces around them so big or may feel career best year last year you know most touchdowns he's ever thrown for best completion percentage
[00:18:51] we're still not a believer he's at think he's a force multiplier I think he is I think the I think the grind that he went through through college being a walk on a Texas tech and then
[00:19:02] getting Oklahoma and essentially being undersized but just over performing winning a high asmen it just unfortunately he would decleave when I think I don't think he was the right pick at number one for Cleveland but he's always going to have that sting of you were number one
[00:19:18] overall pick it's like yeah I got picked by a team that went one in 30 yeah don't blame me because the team was dumb it's like you can't hire you can't bring the substitute in in May
[00:19:31] and wonder why the kids who haven't done their work all year long didn't pass the final exam like let's not just start I just got here it's been terrible for years and I just got here and then
[00:19:42] they couldn't keep a coach I believe what Tampa Bay is doing it's probably understanding and listen we just need to win our division Atlanta's lack of an identity they haven't really
[00:19:58] put themselves a position to score a lot of points Tampa Bay had the seventh rank defense last year so you figure yeah you lose a couple pieces but Todd bowls is defensive guy so he has the
[00:20:10] scheme that he wants guys to run so I know you know already you have the pieces because you start four and seven is a bad run but you finish the year five and five and one and then you pretty much
[00:20:23] dominate the Eagles by the most talented roster in the league you dominated them at home your home playoff game because you want your division you build on that and I think they're in
[00:20:32] a position to build on that I like them to win the division again this year simply because they brought everybody back all for the vision victory or winning the vision last year which I think buys you some time considering that your opponents Atlanta might start all pretty good
[00:20:51] they might be a good team of four and a little point because they're going to have the weapons if Kirk Cousin's healthy hemp the one in Cal Pizz and Drake London it could work out
[00:21:01] but there's no pass rush so you know when you play Atlanta all you got to do is just maintain your drives because you're not going to get sacked you're going to have time in the pocket
[00:21:11] and eventually Mike Evans is going to get open Jesse Bates is a great safety lurking in middle of the field but it's only so long that you can cover guys in NFL so that I think Tampa Bay will end up probably you know being the division
[00:21:26] it probably be another nine and eight ten and seven season New Orleans they probably have so many people on hot seats around our organization that starting out two and four could get people fired
[00:21:40] so now you you have Carolina who's basically starting over then six games into the season New Orleans starting over you're only competition is Atlanta and you know Atlanta defensively can't pressure the quarterback can't stop the run so the good news for you or bad news
[00:21:58] depending on how you want to look at it uh is that Atlanta's start you know looking at Atlanta schedule you know they start out with Pittsburgh at home so you like the fact that it's a home game
[00:22:10] but then they go to Philly from from Monday night football they played a chief sat home for Sunday night football and then they go Saints in Tampa back the back in weeks four and five in I guess Carolina
[00:22:22] wrote it on both of those are at home and then Carolina's on the road in week six so three losses so there can be only three going into their first game three so they're going to beat Pittsburgh
[00:22:37] you're going to beat Kansas City they're going to beat Pittsburgh so TJ Y is going to have a field day what the oh McGear like the the right tackle who yeah who can't block this
[00:22:48] you say what can have a game I'm still okay I'm supposed to rely on Russell Wilson all of a sudden he can't block this someone on bro like I'm not supposed to have I supposed to respect Russell Wilson now
[00:23:02] I mean he's going to have plenty of time he's still in the field quarterback he's like that's what I'm saying Atlanta like as a fan I watch all the games they have no pass rush they don't
[00:23:12] sign free age defensive ends they get defensive tackles they had to lay this Campbell he's gone or play some of the guy came up and see how serious they're Ricky they have no pass rush at all
[00:23:23] I don't care how good your offense is or how on the post at how bad your quarterback is Nathan Peterman can complete a pass if you give him four and a half seconds to get somebody
[00:23:34] I'll just oh my complete it to the other team though it might not be a deep post in between according to safety but it'll be like a okay I didn't wide open across middle of the field
[00:23:45] which is the first down they and you stack it and you keep going and keep going like that's but that's gonna be Atlanta's problem and I'm not gonna be mad at all you because I'm already calling it
[00:23:53] you bought up the Peter man you know who you play for now right probably is Saints I don't know how he keeps gonna job but they figured you get him two games against Atlanta he
[00:24:05] tried to use I'm not not bash my team I know it but it just when you had a glaring me you had a glaring need to get a defensive the best defensive player available at eight everything was laid out
[00:24:20] for everyone else one through the Dallas Turner was right there sitting right there even the call that like we saw on the like the the call that Chicago made to try to move from
[00:24:33] nine to eight they were gonna give Atlanta extra fourth round pick and it was like now like Chicago is not moving up to eight to take pinnicks when they just took Caleb one nor did they
[00:24:45] move up to eight to make another deal with another team and that five minute window that's you're on the clock so it just was like that just let me further know like okay there this team
[00:24:55] I'm not even gonna be mad all you long yeah so you know Atlanta brought in Zach Robinson is the office coordinator you know he brought him over from the Rams along with Rahimors you know
[00:25:10] hey coach was the defensive coordinator over there they brought in Jimmy Lake from the Rams as the defensive coordinator and I don't know if you remember Jimmy Lake do you remember Jimmy Lake
[00:25:21] imagine he didn't do something favorable so for those of you that are not in the know Jimmy Lake was the head coach of the Washington Huskies before Caleb and the Borough came along
[00:25:34] he replaced Chris Peterson you know a Boise State fame you know so there you go he's damaged in between the two great coaches right and he gets suspended because on a kickoff return against
[00:25:47] Oregon his player runs out of bounds you know they're John at each other wanted to players trying to get involved he walks up pops the player and helmet and then as the player walks away he pushes
[00:25:57] them into back you know that's your defensive coordinator Atlanta you know but uh you know me like come on like like you're not saying you don't get a redemption but you hired and I get a lot of guys
[00:26:13] bring their people they're familiar with right right right right but did you bring the philosophy did you bring like do we have this this the kind of personnel that was Angela's runs with no no
[00:26:27] so yeah so so tap a board in Randy Gregory you know they brought in the often injury prone sterling shepherd you know from your giant fame you know they did bring in Jordan Whitehead I
[00:26:45] like that move a lot you know from the jets you know but let's but let's move on now I'm a jump I'm a jump around a bit let's talk about the team that I'm picking last in this division
[00:26:57] so you pick a New Orleans last I am picking New Orleans last no why because New Orleans ain't shit not enough for real all right so so so so check it out like um james Winston was a better quarterback
[00:27:14] last year than dirt car was james Winston is in Cleveland now you know Alvin come our missed some games last season because he had his drama going on and everything I think he's out of
[00:27:26] New Orleans after this season and maybe by the trade deadline you know as I look at New Orleans they drafted cool late McHenstree you know to get Marcus Lattermore some help but I'm not so sure Marcus Lattermore
[00:27:39] is going to finish the year in New Orleans I see this team as going nowhere fast their hit coaches been on the hot seats since the day he took the job you know I don't see anything so so tomorrow's good
[00:27:53] Alave is good you know Michael Thomas has gone now you know they have they drafted Kendrae Miller last year they brought in Jamal Williams from the trade last year who come in into New Orleans led the league and red zone touchdowns you know and they didn't really
[00:28:12] got one yeah you got one when james just like them and so I just don't know what New Orleans has going on down there and this is not even a thing where I'm like yo watch out for the
[00:28:23] curl a lot of Panthers because they're coming they're going to make an improvement I just think that New Orleans is one of those teams that is way over the salary cap that's going to have to just
[00:28:33] cut a lot of ties and they can't even because they're already 25 million over the cap next year not even right but for next year so so I think we're going to see New Orleans do a face lift you know
[00:28:46] I think we're going to see a whole lot change I don't think Dirt car is going to be there another year it's been so rattle or the answer to me determined you know we know we know the Peter man's not the
[00:28:56] answer you know but you know to be so so when I look at New Orleans you know I just don't see they have no just like Atlanta right you say they have no past rush but they but they were they were
[00:29:08] eighth overall in defense they were they're stout upfront they have they have veterans in places where you need veterans and they have young talent in place where you need young talent the problem is
[00:29:22] they have Dennis Allen who was a protege essentially of Sean Payton and I think that that party hurt some because they might be in a position where the conversation is are we ready to
[00:29:35] transition to Spencer Rattler but let's play this season out but they might look at it like this division is winnable because none of us have separating from each other there's a lot of Carolina Carolina is just an epigenetic because right they made they made the bat essentially we're
[00:29:51] talking about the trade to get right Sean which Chicago I think that that backfire especially you give up the young when you give up the best why we see retarget when you're trying to get
[00:30:00] an undersized quarterback but we'll get to that in a second New Orleans has the talent to win games if you look at their first we'll go to their first six games they got Carolina at Dallas home with
[00:30:15] home affiliate at Atlanta at KC home for Tampa Bay so that's your first thing is that winners a lot of that they could go three and three out of the door two yeah three three with the Navy with Tampa Bay
[00:30:31] Tampa Bay might be there that that'll be the toss-up game but they're probably going to that game two and three don't have a couple of good victories over Carolina probably be you know double
[00:30:42] those evictories and then the game gets to Atlanta might be tough because it's at Atlanta but if they end up one and five after that run yeah I think some things could change
[00:30:53] but after you got Denver Los Angeles and Carolina again that's three wins was better what better of what Carolina then I split with Carolina care a lot of that care a lot of this not had 10 points
[00:31:07] worth of talent or team it's not about that it's about they got school points you got a school points that's from sand we'll get to Carolina in a second don't be trying to jump away done yeah new
[00:31:18] Orleans has enough they have enough veteran talent on the team granted some of these guys are older but they're still out there playing that's gonna get them points 21 it's 24 points is you can
[00:31:32] pretty much book them for that there car is a good if he stops screaming at everybody up every play if you kind of told with that now because if you look at it they're not a championship
[00:31:42] contender and he probably thought maybe when they got this contract you look around you thought and they kind of realize you know what we're just a team that's it's baby steps that's how the
[00:31:51] good practice today let's have a good practice week all right let's have a good practice next week let's have a good joint practice with the Texans or wherever we have let's have a good preseason game let
[00:32:02] let's let's build on this let's build first downs versus some teams who have championship aspirations and from week one every single thing is being evaluated against championship I don't think New Orleans
[00:32:15] has that and maybe without that expectation maybe car will be a little bit loose like I said just having veterans in that on that organization I've been there for a while I think that gives
[00:32:28] an edge over Carolina and of course the other part of that is he has to stay healthy yeah just stay up don't scramble protect them you know third 30 to 34 passes again keep
[00:32:40] a simple run-up ball give it the camera check it down just do the same chinadra readers the one hey they did to the state credit they did get my guy but means I talked about him prior to the draft is one of my sleepers you know 612 16
[00:32:55] ran a 443 you know so putting him across from a lobby could reap some rewards if their car can put it together you know they have a new office coordinator you know Clint Kubiak
[00:33:10] you know who was the passing game coordinator in San Francisco in Denver the last few years football legacy football legacy he was an office coordinator once for a year in 2021 in Minnesota
[00:33:23] you know they were 115 points per game that year and they had the least 3 and out in the lead that year so you're starting from somewhere good potentially so you know that's a feathering
[00:33:33] your cat potentially you know but I just I just think that the saints are on the verge of falling apart like not from the standpoint of they're going to go one in 16 or something like that but
[00:33:47] they would have to go like they'd have to go like 4 and 13 to not to I got I got them 5 into a lose I got them 5 and 12 so that means you got Carolina getting 6 wins or you got them 5 and 12
[00:33:59] and 12 yeah I got it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't know like I don't know how but so so this is the problem with the division like you know like you said right
[00:34:14] like in your expectation you know you're thinking that the winner of the division could potentially be another 9 and 18 maybe 10 that is 10 is 7 is best case scenario no one you want to 11 is 6
[00:34:28] so so from so from that standpoint right when I look at how can I word this so when I look at units you know to me like what are the best and worst units in this division so you know like
[00:34:46] Atlanta everything being equal in healthy Atlanta has has the best quarterback you know Atlanta has the best running back potentially Atlanta has the best wide receiving core even though the Saints may have the best or I'm sorry Tampa has has the best wide receiver in Mike Evans
[00:35:06] just based off of production and all that kind of stuff I was going to make an argument for Chris Alavey but I don't need to get into the weeds on that you know to mean like when I look at the
[00:35:16] offensive lines in this division you know that's pretty even across the board I believe you know I look at the defensive line you know maybe you make an argument for Tampa having the best defensive line in division and I think I think New Orleans, Cam Jordan,
[00:35:34] the front I think there's just more stuff I think their identity is kind of based off the best player they have in the line Atlanta you got greedy Jerry is undersized defensive tackle that
[00:35:45] they try to move around but it's only so much you can do when you have a men's side taking on double teams and then you try to move them outside and he's not like exceptional like in his
[00:35:55] height or anything like that he just is really good with his technique but you can neutralize that if no one else is getting pressure up the middle if you put him to the outside
[00:36:05] the Saints are they get pressure up the middle I think they're they're uh defensive backfill but we uh honey batter still there yeah and they both didn't cool it so you know there's a lot
[00:36:18] lot of more so that's what I'm saying so like they they have playmakers on the back end and they have pressure up front a lot of times that's that's the difference when you're
[00:36:32] when your division is what it is like if you think about you know the AFC saw that Houston went 10 and 7 but if any one that game last year they would have been 10 and 7
[00:36:43] or one the division so it's like that so it looks like 10 wins is like it's crazy but really it could boil down to that week 18 in division game who's gonna get to that 10th win
[00:36:55] and I mean and as much as I mean looking back at last year you know we talked about type of starting out for seven finishing five or one you know they had that nine nothing win
[00:37:05] against Carolina in the end if they lose that game you know if I remember correctly uh Atlanta wins the division Atlanta was Atlanta was getting torched by New Orleans and no I know so the
[00:37:18] orders would have won the division what it was so New Orleans did finish four and one last year you know to their credit you know but those four wins were a Carolina you know you give the credit
[00:37:28] for Tampa Atlanta in the Giants you know to be so who they have in their final stretch this year they got Tampa Bay Washington in the Giants and Cleveland by November who knows the shine
[00:37:45] is still playing shout out to my man lowest Peterson Matt just made Matt to start get around the pause congratulations for my trainers when I got here so yeah I appreciate the
[00:37:58] support be extra yeah that's that's the the drawback is you these are robes and it's a good back he has potential to be you know one of these topbacks in the league but he needs space to operate
[00:38:16] and I think they're gonna fall in love with what he does to the point last year remember the first game I was probably texting you be you job robes and had six targets in the first half
[00:38:28] and we won and Drake London the cow pits had one each and it's like I think they just fall in love with like this their enamors would be bad but nothing was happening but that's the
[00:38:41] thing they already talked about cow pits at why I was see her cow pits can't beat corner coverage hence why they would put a corner on him and double whoever the virus super was because he's good
[00:38:56] but he's now here's the question though but now can you do that because now you have not know you add rendezle more to the equation now you know you got no need to the equation
[00:39:10] so you get the ball you can't do that like what's so what's your has whether there's a hierarchy that's what I'm seeing so it's it's a lot of sports cars, air garage and you need to
[00:39:25] truck the move of mattress that's that's what Atlanta is like you have all you have all these luxury things but you don't have any dirt like any dirt boys on the team there's no one in
[00:39:40] the trenches there's no linebacker in the middle that makes sound that can change the game I'm not saying you have to be loop key clearly or anything like that but just like your
[00:39:49] middle linebacker needs to be an impact player don't have one your linebacking core as a whole should be versatile enough don't have or do you think that Ryan Morris is a good defense of coach I don't know if you have Aaron Donald I don't like I don't know
[00:40:06] why does he have a defensive too yeah the one and then he and get the coach fired because they weren't getting sex they either and that's the same problem defensively for years like it's the
[00:40:21] year of the rat yeah even the year that they went to a Super Bowl they it wasn't a great defense it was a young defense in Dan Quinn was like well just play fast play fast playing space
[00:40:33] and get your hands on the ball strip the ball out tip the ball get turnovers and the latter half of that year they did that and then Kyle Shannon was calling the plays and we seen
[00:40:43] since then Kyle Shannon handed this like oh he was upper echelon with his play calling I don't know if that's the same thing for us and exact robocen and his guys and you know
[00:40:51] you never know when it's gonna happen but Sean may they call the plays and Los Angeles and he's been calling him for years so you're getting me a guy who just basically watch another guy do the job is AJ really only 25 years old AJ
[00:41:10] is he really all these 25 years he yes these Trevor Lawrence age they were in the same I didn't realize he was that young yeah so like I said he's he's good but once again
[00:41:21] you look bad if there's no pass rush you know and he and he had watched a couple of games he can get beat on double moves and stuff like that but you know it's gonna happen everyone the
[00:41:33] problem is those other plays those other 30 pass plays can we get some pressure can we get some cuby hits can we get double digit cuby hits and maybe one or two sacks again get some pressure
[00:41:46] in the face of the quarterback they haven't really built the beef and to do that because they keep getting these luxury pieces for the offense all these fast cars or you need a you need an F 250
[00:41:58] mattress and they simply don't have it so please tell me please tell me year two can't be as bad as year one for brachion yeah absolutely absolutely it'll be absolutely it'll be just bad it was so maybe 13 touchdowns and 10 picks instead of 11 pick yet it's because
[00:42:23] first of all he is severely undersized calmery small he is calmery small and like what out the mass like calmery was a solid got baseball player moves around but he is he's five nine
[00:42:41] at best right so I'm just probably five nine and a half on a good day five 10 in his cleats any small he's probably five he's probably five nine one ninety my 50 road is six two
[00:42:58] 170 something and I wouldn't put a him behind an offensive line right now because he's not bulky he's like long and you know it's kind of stocky but he's like he's not built to play looking at
[00:43:10] a court of acquisition but meanwhile price young is smaller than him they don't have the weapons there they got this new coach from Tampa Bay and it's like you could have got a coach
[00:43:25] you're trying to get your young courted backs numbers up you should probably get a coordinator that was working with the young courted back and help that young courted backs numbers increase
[00:43:36] I don't know like why you get go get Dave can out of some Tampa Bay is not like their offensive won't be about a water well you know why because they got caught up in that height right
[00:43:45] Baker may feel had his best years up row with David canalism's offensive but Baker may feel has had good years with a plethora of coaches so just if I'm in the room if I'm in the room
[00:44:00] when they're talking about this again he had his best year in their day and again but Baker had good years before like he has good years Baker's a good quarterback he played in our mediocre
[00:44:10] division and he made some plays but he's a he still is a good quarterback he's experienced he's been around maybe at a chip on his shoulder but he also had targets he had like six foot five
[00:44:20] Mike Evans go get anything in his vicinity Chris Godwin he has targets there what do you have and you got the get the auntie Johnson who just flat out given up on live balls and Pittsburgh
[00:44:38] in game fumbles literally gave up on plays multiple times throughout the game surprise my tongue didn't cut them after I forgot what game it was but I know he just gave up on a fumble like
[00:44:51] his live happening he just was walking and then you got Adam Theland you know I just don't think you have the weapons you don't have the weapons for me as a defensive coordinator anyone
[00:45:00] in the team's an escape or home and pull up their schedule so you know how they say that uh when you got two quarterbacks you don't have one what do you have when you got like five running backs
[00:45:13] like so I'm trying to figure out is my will Sanders even gonna make this roster you know they went in drafted Jonathan Brooks from Texas coming off the wall uh uh they figured I plan to talk
[00:45:25] tober November you say they went out and picked up Rashad Piny you know another injury prone but talented back you know they still have Chuba Hubbert they still have Rahine Blackshaer you know I think you add Jonathan Brooks to that so you know so I this team has
[00:45:44] done anything that's gonna say they're gonna be better than three and four team like let's be like the owner first of all the owners at Tham's cycle path he's hands on he has no idea what
[00:45:56] he's doing he's just rich when he walked into the restaurant and took that guy's head because they had the son of saying let the GM make the picks like you're a billionaire and you
[00:46:08] actually stopped your car to go into a restaurant in a cost of man while he's at work at a restaurant so he's probably gonna pay less than minimum wage and then working on tips because he has an
[00:46:20] opinion about how you drafted your terrible like what would make the decision to give up all those pieces for Brad's young was a bad move it will not work in this year where you see in
[00:46:31] five wins I will tell you so I got him splitting with New Orleans you know I got him splitting with one of Atlanta or Tampa. Not cat I got him beaten the giants. Nope.
[00:46:51] Are you just going to say everybody? They can legit be the number one pick next year at let's say I'll give you I give you one of the Atlanta games they're gonna sneak up on somebody like a
[00:47:11] Washington. Now I'm man like I don't need to agree with you. Magga 11 is 16. Where's the one? Like the Atlanta game? Where's their home where's their home Atlanta if they if they got a
[00:47:28] way home Atlanta is week six yeah that that I think that's their only real shot like real and the place you look at all what is it yeah Mercedes. The same's been yeah so we got
[00:47:44] the saints the chargers the Raiders the bangles the big. It could be the Raiders too like look I know that I know that most of us where are they gonna get there well because we
[00:48:03] like Antonio Pierce no no no I'm not I'm not I'm not just concerned about that where does Carolina get the playmaking starts at the quarterback position. Him making the decision to get the ball to another playmaker who is that person when it goes when it gets
[00:48:20] snap out of shotgun because he's short they'll take him to a lot of shotgun when it gets to Bryce Young's hand who does he get the ball to that then turns it into a big play look at consistently
[00:48:33] enough to get points okay Ricky while receivers normally don't do that well because they have to learn and do wants of like how do I get open because they so used to being two yards open
[00:48:45] in their college and now you're I have your look at a year two years ago. I'm just I'm not saying like they they're not good but that's what you said no they I said they gotta get they have to get
[00:48:57] you to it but in order to get you to it you need a veteran quarterback that helps you with that piece either the veteran or receiver that helps you on quarterback order it's rare that you get
[00:49:08] the C.A. Stroutank Dill connection that's not common so we can agree to that yeah we're right now but right now you got Bryce Young who's basically on an extended first year second tier like
[00:49:20] it's not really a second year because it never really had any from what part of that the build on one of that is I think that with a year under his belt and I'm not saying that like Bryce Young
[00:49:30] is going to take this pro bowl leaper anything like that like like I started off this conversation you know to me it can't be as bad as last year there has to be a sort of truth the fact that
[00:49:40] you even think that it's like it probably is because if it wasn't because she would say it won't be as bad as last year because they made these moves. Just right now you just feel this
[00:49:55] no I don't have no feelings for the girl a lot of power not like not like you just feel like you know I just think that the same thing is going to be bad like yeah it's like it's
[00:50:07] killer is when you're woman if it is girl liner but you're like it can't it can't be that bad but I'm like I'm looking realistically the Saints had been a middle tier
[00:50:18] eight and eight nine and eight seven and nine team. They've been that kind of team for years even with Drew Rees with injuries and Teddy Bridgewater but they have actual playmakers
[00:50:34] that can get their hand in the ball even if they only average 21 points you can kind of book a lot of days going to be open a handful of times throughout the game for a big potential big
[00:50:47] their car is a pro ball quarterback that's gotten a couple of big contracts played in the overall the year he left uh boss Vegas how long ago was that was that three years ago no like it was
[00:51:01] the season before last year two years ago yeah so the last season he was in like anything like a pro ball or something whoa aside from him yelling at people like a great but that was only one
[00:51:13] season. I'm talking about the season before and Las Vegas he was a pro baller so it was totally but he was a pro baller because that was when the pro ball was in Vegas and they did
[00:51:22] their interview and it was like we haven't seen you there's hot and he was like well I guess a team here doesn't see an Eddie that I want me or something along those lines um so he has like a little
[00:51:31] swag tool but like I said they had a veteran approach to wear even if they're in a tight game with Carolina I'm gonna bank on the veterans making the play over the the team that's not really
[00:51:45] structured to win. I don't know where you get your wins defensively I don't know where you get your I don't know where you create your turnovers I don't know who your your best hackler is
[00:51:57] like where do you get where does that play the game? Of course but that's what I'm saying they played last year and they I don't think they've ever been approved. I don't think they've made a
[00:52:12] four or five wins. The only team that really made improvements in this division if we're looking at like a big scale like oh my goodness like look at this pick up or whatever is that
[00:52:24] Atlanta? Yeah but that pick up was those pickups were luxury people? No I know but but I'm just saying when you're looking at this division it was already a division that for the most part outside of
[00:52:36] Carolina last year you know everybody was in a mixture together like you're making the gumbo. It was a mixture of mediocrity it was like a lot and it's 22 22 to 20 games with game when
[00:52:50] if you go bad drives. Yeah so if you I just don't know where when you meet points I mean even if it's something that's simple as New Orleans comes out opening drive gets a
[00:53:05] feel-go or get they get a touchdown it's Carolina gonna be able to come back and come over with their own touchdown drive. I just don't see and just don't see where they get that considering I don't
[00:53:21] believe the quarterback is a threat yet. I don't know if the get is a threat. What are you doing? So if we like sit it really like it right now yeah it realistic could be a situation where
[00:53:38] they start off all right so check it out they start off if they go winless into the buy which is a realistic thing because they they're not that talented the owner could fire the coach again
[00:53:52] and it's first year because he did it last year with Frank Wright so that's what I mean I just don't see this stability from the top of the organization and I don't see that the players that matched whatever expectation what I mean they've attacked.
[00:54:08] Carolina was last year is bad as Carolina was last year right they lost one like I mean they got blown out a few times obviously but during the course of last year they lost to the
[00:54:21] Saints by three they beat the Texans they lost to the Packers by three they lost to the Bears by three they lost to the felt they beat the Falcons they lost to Tampa 9 nothing
[00:54:38] they lost to Tampa any other game by three okay they lost to the Titans by seven is this school are those scores there yes of course the scores are okay how many games it is score more than 23 points let's see there's one two 33
[00:55:03] let's see I got three so far four so four games and no games over 30 points correct they had one game at 30 which was the Green Bay game that they lost by three you know what I mean so so so what I'm saying is I have talent they you're
[00:55:25] in a field yeah and now that they got looked at that allows and in Beyonce Johnson even though I know you're down on them I'm just talking about when your structure in a team right so so like for
[00:55:37] example right let's say uh Stefan Diggs was still in Buffalo correct just for a quick second you know me you got MBS you know you got Curtis Samuel you got Kion Coleman so on so and my gosh the
[00:55:53] care right but if you but so if you had Stefan Diggs all those guys are a peg lower you're gonna be where is without Stefan Diggs now somebody has to step up or whatever
[00:56:05] that you know they're out of position if you will so so looking at Carolina you know for example you know I just believe in LaGate that's just me I believe in LaGate right so so I'm over
[00:56:19] estimating him to some degree because he's a rookie but by having look at having Beyonce Johnson as your deep threat you allow Theland to slide down the spot instead of being your number one you allow
[00:56:35] Terus Marshall to slide down you allow Jonathan Mingo to slide down so most of those guys are where they should be as far as their hierarchy on a football team as a wild receiver now that's
[00:56:50] me obviously we're projecting that's me saying that LaGate is gonna have a good rookie season and establish himself as the number one receiver you know have that chemistry or whatever with Bryce Young that's just me saying that obviously I don't have you know so you're like the words
[00:57:08] that you like to use I don't have any evidence at this point in time to support that I'm making a projection of what I think could happen this season you know and so with that being said you know
[00:57:21] true behavior you know I think is a better running back than he gets credit for they act they still have like I said myel Sanders they still got black sheer they still got a Rashad Penny so somebody
[00:57:35] is going to be sharing the ball which you're a hover until Jonathan Brooks comes off of his injury and when Jonathan Brooks comes off his inner injury he's going to become the best running
[00:57:45] back on that scene okay I'd give you that but they're at a talent deficit at the quarterback position and probably most of the skill position groups and we won two three four five six seven
[00:58:06] and we ate at Denver it's probably the only game where they're their the quarterback they might have it might be closer whereas it's not the finish like they're at a deficit
[00:58:24] and then you go back to all this and you have the giants that's because we're looking at them as they are today we have seen them this year yet so so like yeah that's true for this moment
[00:58:35] and you know that might hold true throughout you know of course of time you know near oh and oh and seven after they lose to the day oh and seven I'm gonna say day and David Tipper fires ahead
[00:58:49] when they're 07 I think fires ahead coach because that's what we had we had that we said I will say damn what was on the kickin the evidence that we have right now is that
[00:59:01] the owner has a different expectation for his team than the talent that's on the field he gave he gave Matt Root that a huge contract fired him bought it out then high-of-franck rate and then fired him and see the Raiders going into Arrowhead and winning last year
[00:59:27] no but let's keep let's keep it to be in Hollywood they got two don't have to win the way it's a much down they got two defensive touchdowns in a matter of six six and there quarterback didn't complete a pass the whole second half but that's not
[00:59:41] a formula that translates multiple times throughout the years like we saw Buffalo what was the New England beat Buffalo by throwing three passes in a game but they were like that's what I'm saying that yeah that's not something that gets extrapolated and happens often to
[00:59:59] where like every once in a while every year a team just happens to get a couple of touchdowns but the quarterback doesn't complete a pass in the second half it's about three going to Ohio State
[01:00:09] so you're telling me that them getting lucky at one or two games is gonna propel them to five wins if they got to get lucky like if they got to get lucky like that's like that's
[01:00:20] like that's what you're asking so so before we started this conversation before we started this conversation did you remember that they only lost the green bay by three last year no I did not when we started before we started this conversation did you know that they only
[01:00:32] lost the tap about three last year and that there if in the other game was not enough and you put me on the game I got that I got to not but that's what I'm no but they don't
[01:00:41] have a majority more they don't have the defense of playing did you remember that Carolina beat Houston last year no that was a surprise I was saying like I have a big number of members that was early in the year they got to win and I get
[01:00:55] that but they also had a better defensive end last year that they traded away for two second round picks which they replaced them their wire receiver core is not better this year and there's no continuity you had keep on they have a young quarterback and he doesn't have
[01:01:12] a go-to target going into his second year so it's gonna be a lot of what he was doing in his first year that's just as a concept like they bought they boxed his arrival before it even started
[01:01:24] no I do agree with that I do agree with that so that's so these first six games I don't see them they don't have an advantage anywhere and these first six games
[01:01:35] and a couple of these games are can be real like real blowouts the the charges game is gonna be ball control gym hardball running down their throat and then maybe just some
[01:01:47] Herbert the one so cop has get yes we're projecting but there's gonna be there's as such a deficit offensively in their first six games that it literally could be the end of the coaches career because we've seen I have my back you can't be saying stuff like that
[01:02:09] Adam feeling they Adam feeling no more though like you don't be using that's your reason right now it's like he he not he's not your threat he's not the guy that's gonna
[01:02:20] get you over the hump of your second year no that's going to be like I said this is just my often I think we're probably the only people who've ever had a 20 minute conversation on the
[01:02:28] Carolina Panthers outside of the state of care that's why you got to like subscribe the sports reports is older that's why I got a watch this show because we did the same thing it's like what to
[01:02:36] see a few weeks ago you know but no but the thing is is that like you know like I said I'm projected to get right like if nothing else I know like I said I know how you feel about the
[01:02:47] Beyonce Johnson but what do you want to say Johnson provides provided he's got a fresh start and you know whatever if he gets 12 targets again he gets over 100 yards but the point being is that
[01:03:00] he adds an element to Carolina's offense that they didn't have last year you know to be like just he's dropped the ball a lot he's been really and we was all like Rod and he
[01:03:12] leaves him last year I knew everybody I verbally I verbally but before that he walked out on Atlanta like I got mental health situation which is fine like I get it you gotta do that
[01:03:28] but then he left and he gets suspended he goes and Jacksonville I was trying to get my hand there saw a look gangster so he has so he had she fucking it up bro I was trying to look gangster
[01:03:40] getting my wife you don't you trying to get up in it you know but yeah I think I think he's a talent but there's there is a narrative surrounded why I was he was when they don't get the ball
[01:03:56] I predict a lot of three and outs like if like I got received a plan in the background Jimmy Garapal was a good quarterback but his inability to get the ball to volunteer atoms in space where
[01:04:07] he wasn't getting crushed or hitting when he was wide open let them get in bench and I call you a good quarterback if you can't get the Vontae up as the ball that's what I'm so it's like
[01:04:20] as a wire receiver you're coming off jammed you're running across the middle you're getting hit you're getting tugged on and you're not getting you just running these rocks like getting a ball and it's three and out because I'm eight men in the box against Carolina all game long
[01:04:35] and I'm Darren Bryce to beat me and I think every team can do that I don't think there's a threat on the team on the offensive side of the ball so it's like I don't know how you get five wins when
[01:04:49] I can't pick out any threats that you like as a defense of a defensive coordinator I'm coming into to week one who was a fence of coordinate you think he's losing any sleep on any
[01:05:01] body on there so like I said what threats do Denver have that makes this sound so unlikely no no no that's it yeah Denver's their first I think that that's because that'll be giant that'll be seven games that's like I said they they they I have them
[01:05:20] you know NFL whatever happens but they could they could be 0 and 7 they could be 14 or they can be 1 and 6 or Caleb Williams could start off slow and they could be Chicago week five or
[01:05:38] that's it Caleb Williams has Caleb Williams has more weapons so even if he starts off slow I think if you just simply if you if you start off slow but he has the weapons say you know what
[01:05:51] we'll just dumb it down we just dumb it down we dumb it down because we could just get the like the kids they cheeset can't see she's sitting have a bunch of dynamic receivers so instead
[01:06:02] of throwing like a bunch of deep route so like okay we'll dumb it down patch we're just thinking of the game duck just get the ball out of your hand and when you have DJ Moore you have
[01:06:13] keen an island and then you got a doomsday you're bound to get big plays out of that you're bound to get your bound to get points out of it I like Barton Minty you have the
[01:06:22] gardening to the game but it'll be the Raiders and just because this is the NFL and you got a team like I know you brought up the charges right like Jim Harborges is going to smash
[01:06:32] you know they mean like they still got a fly across the country you know for that game you know they're going to loot their obviously going to get their brains blown out against Cincinnati
[01:06:44] you know sorry for the imagery I've been listening to Eminem you know saying they go you know said of course they're going to like we said you even admitted it they might split with Atlanta
[01:06:54] you know Washington is not this like we have an idea of what we think Washington could be as far as being an improved team but we haven't seen that either but you know but I think they
[01:07:06] split with the same that defensive front for Washington is that going to put pressure on the five foot 10 quarterback just that alone just that alone that that could but maybe maybe you have
[01:07:16] a good you have a good quarterback coach you know a head coach now that is known as a good quarterback coach and I'm not like I said I'm not saying that Bryce Young is all of a sudden
[01:07:29] going to turn into this pro boulder or this special player or well but he's going to throw more than fucking 11 touchdowns I think we need you need we need in order for you to say
[01:07:48] or expect five wins out of Carolina so many things have to go right that I'm not sure if they have the personnel no I got you right that's what I've got you
[01:08:03] so many things have to just line up and it's like I think you just said such a deficit in so many important years being said they had the games that I brought up from last year
[01:08:13] so like I said Bryce Young just gets marginally better and they win some of those games so so like you know what I mean like even with his bad is curl a lot of was
[01:08:24] you know to me if Bryce Young has 12 touchdowns instead of 11 they would have extra game last year whatever like you know what I mean like and they're there still getting them one pick
[01:08:33] because they've traded away all these picks to get Bryce Young I just don't feel like they've managed I don't think the owner or the team has managed to build a contending team
[01:08:48] and as such I know an NFL is rare that teams go 0 and 7 or have like these several records but if anyone's going to do it it's going to be the team that traded away so much
[01:08:59] draft capital to include a target for their smaller quarterback Young quarterback that they drafted who's used to having a bunch of talent around them in Alabama so pretty much having very little in Carolina and then not really making any moves of note to both of that but they
[01:09:19] traded away their best to physical player because they didn't want to pay them so it's just too many just too many ideologies too many dichotomies that are just working against them winning and whoever the hot number one potential draft pick is going to be next year by week 7
[01:09:37] Carolina will be eyeballing whoever that is and I don't know who that player is going to be but I guarantee you by week 7 it'll be locked in at Carolina will be the team that has the fast track
[01:09:50] to get in that pick and you might not be wrong with that like you know what I mean but that's still doesn't mean that over the course of 17 games like you know what I mean you're talking about
[01:10:01] early in the season like you know what I mean like you don't know like some teams you know like okay so like the bears right you know back when they had just the fields
[01:10:12] oh I that was just last year but you know like before last year I mean you know being they were out here losing games and they didn't have any talent you know we've seen
[01:10:25] teams like Justin feels was he was holding he was holding on to ball too long he was that was that was something that you could look you could look at the film you look at the games you like you know that ball should have come out already or
[01:10:38] throw it out of balance so you don't take that hit so we can look at that and say this is why Chicago was struggling and then he he was hurt for a little bit and they brought in like Tyson Banger band of Gert or something like that
[01:10:50] and he was like working with system but he just didn't have the talent to get these get them wins he looked well he was torn great passes but every once a while he would throw
[01:11:02] a bad pick because he just young and experienced everyone's way through a bad pick and Chicago finally in on that talent got some made a trade at the deadline got some defensive help in there and lead on that Washington has defensive talent
[01:11:18] and then I think even something else we've got the mission to wars up they've been sunshine she on the world is the sunshine she's so if he if he's a body with a low motor
[01:11:28] and like I said you have to be optimistic and or hopeful which is what I was doing with the on say Johnson but the on thing Johnson has poor attitude on display for everyone to see
[01:11:41] is different then oh she doesn't play he playing well in the school I think it was got a set I mean yeah that was the Super Bowl San Francisco benched him because he wasn't playing well he wasn't playing hard on the way to the Super Bowl
[01:11:59] maybe some some guys like I said some guys just played football just like my guy like I was a big you know Khalil Mac fan you know to me like he just doesn't play hard all the time
[01:12:11] I think Khalil Mac plays hard I think he did double I think that he takes I see them I see them look of the office of right tackle with one arm and sling him they're like
[01:12:25] some guys might not love it especially guys they got you got enough money pay to tax you got enough little cash and you just might just play football because you've always been big and you fall out of love which is fine but just a functionality of how
[01:12:43] Karolana seems to be running their business from just the outside looking in it just doesn't seem like it's an environment conducive to victories even though they're close and they had some good wins and if you throw 13 touchdowns instead of 11 maybe they squeeze
[01:12:59] in a couple of the wins I'm just not seen I'm not seeing where they made real improvement other than just a construct of you drafted a talented rookie and your quarterback is going into a
[01:13:12] second year you started over with the coach coaching staff philosophy you said the same owner you don't have like it's the on-taid Johnson is he's a good pickup if you are Buffalo and you're having a stabless quarterback that can get him to ball if he even gone like
[01:13:32] Houston was he there shrouded young quarterback or if you were to go on to like you know how to build a bit more optimistic about it because you can make you can do
[01:13:41] other things it's like we talked about to an AFC East to what if you're going to be a wire receiver that signs to Miami and you're going to be successful you got to be fast
[01:13:53] because to a can't you can't just be like a great route runner and get open deep late over the middle like you got to be open quick because two hours to get the ball to you quick that's why Chase
[01:14:04] Claypool just didn't work because he wasn't he's not a shift the wire receiver I think I got like the Vante Adams will work with tool because he's so shift the off the line Cooper Cup
[01:14:12] shift the off the line Tyreak obviously shift the off the line Jale so it works with that kind of quarterback because it doesn't have the arm with like Adam Theland and the outtake Johnson
[01:14:27] they're basically like the same guy slot guys that can that can get maybe they get open they get some they get a few catches here now I could say you'll total about 100 catches but
[01:14:41] in the red zone where's your threat right you don't have the quarterback keeping the balls it's threat you're running back isn't it threat there's no tight enough to threat and you know
[01:14:49] like it's just like when it condenses like that he can't see everything you know so like that's that's why way you lose games by the way because you can't get into the inzo so Carolina does
[01:15:01] have that what Mike just mentioned in the comments they also have dirt brown they have dangjacks and they have JC horn when healthy you know and of course the big wind healthy is a big deal you know
[01:15:12] with him they got trevin Wallace out of Kentucky who I really like you know in the draft this year linebacker you know they also have shacked Thompson still you know they have I can never see his name
[01:15:27] Caleb on this how hard is it defensive is going to play when you own six like let's let's be realistic man like these guys are grown men out there earning their check too it's only so much
[01:15:40] it's only so much losing I can take what am I here literally throw my body around like do I got to create all the turnovers and get us a ball inside the 15 every game
[01:15:52] I mean we could say that about the cardinals and then they went out and beat Philly yeah I don't know what happened to Philly but you know it's my hands it's the NFL bro
[01:16:02] but like I said I think I think with with the downfall dating to Vito was out here when it I think the downfall of Philly is yeah the thing the downfall of Philly is the the mental
[01:16:15] structure of the organization the coach and quarterback the coach is immature so when it's just starting to go sideways it didn't work so if you have a team where the owners immature he literally
[01:16:28] threw drinks on fans and Jacksonville so the guy at the top is immature he's impulsive and he's rich where's the patience? Oh and three people can be losing a job because he is worth like 70 billion
[01:16:44] he doesn't have he doesn't have the patience to be like you know what we're gonna see this true we're gonna grab it out it's to him is going to be three or four years of another terrible decision
[01:16:54] I'm at the fire of this coach and bring another guy because after three weeks they're gonna have 28 total points well I guess we'll see like I said that's why they played the games ladies he's a gentleman he is a nistological
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