Join the team for reaction to all the happenings in #nba Free Agency. Mr. Logical leads us off with some feats and accomplishments that should be celebrated. (01:50) Two-Five gives credit to... the Clippers? (05:00) It's the end of an era in #goldenstate but an old but newer beginning in San Antonio. (13:30) Are the 76ers and Knicks just battling for second in the East, plus more!
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[00:01:32] You're, get off my chest. I'm going to keep it positive for this episode. We had a lot of you know, it's been a lot of animosity and sports all the time. You know everyone's why you've got to say some with your chest.
[00:01:42] But I want to give some flowers to a few people just highlighting us, some talented athletes from around the world representing United States and Paris is summer.
[00:01:52] So first and foremost, Simone Biles saw a little clip of her routine or fore exercise. She did like some back triple flip thing landed it didn't bounce
[00:02:07] And it's like she's the only person on earth that can do that. Like that's like another extraordinary thing and I don't think people really highlight how difficult it is what she does.
[00:02:16] It's so difficult that she's the only one doing so many of her stunts and routines. She's the only one that could do it to the point where they had to figure out the scoring system.
[00:02:31] It's like you want to do what they were like, she's like, yeah, I want to do this. This isn't this and they're like, yeah, we got a conference on this to figure out how to score it. Like it's been like that for the last few years and she's only gotten better. So set us some old Biles hopefully she brings a couple of gold home.
[00:02:47] Shout out to young boy Quincy Wilson 16 years old ran a force 44.59 in the 400 my youngest son ran track and we talked about it and he said that. And this district because he ran track this year. He's like maybe someone ran a 52 in the 400.
[00:03:09] So he's running high school track here in Jersey, but he said in our district, he's like maybe he's like maybe someone at a school ran a 52 or a 50 one. He's not sure. But he was like 44 is crazy. So he's going to be on the 4 by 413.
[00:03:23] So 16 years old pretty sure he'll step up in a rise to the spotlight and then New Jersey's own sitting McGloff and LeRoni. She's broken her own world record five times in the hurdles.
[00:03:38] And she ran the 400. So she's probably going to run the 400 at the Olympics and the 400 hurdles. She broke the record the other day by like three tenths of a second.
[00:03:47] She was the first woman to go under 52 seconds at the last Olympics and that she's already at 50 I think it was 50.65. And she was two seconds ahead of second place. They all started the same time. They all have the same amount of time to train.
[00:04:03] And she went over a few could see like they go over the first couple hurdles, they look kind of close with OK. And then all of a sudden she came up with one hurdle and it was like she had like full second lead.
[00:04:16] And then the last 100 meters is just was her. It was her in the finish line. That was it. So shot up to Jersey sitting McGloff and LeRoni shot out Quincy Wilson and Simone Biles doing with no woman in the world has ever done can't do they can't even compute it.
[00:04:32] That's that's great. It's right there. So I want to give my flowers to those three people versus just you know yell about something. Oh, yeah, and got no flowers for Kate and Clark though. You know how this is how you see a triple double yesterday.
[00:04:52] He'll he'll edit that out when we clip the real. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. Hey, so all right. So so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so logical.
[00:05:01] Listen, can you explain to the masses why you call me too far? Call them to five because if four people have the conversation we all agreed at him is great. Here'd be like, listen man, I think I tripping.
[00:05:19] But Loni had a great run from the 79 and 1980 and it'll have stats. You like they sell more baloney and this and like, what do you come up with this stuff is I listen.
[00:05:31] Everybody likes slice bread like listen, or before slice bread was a big bread before it was slice. They would and like, so he would always have like this a different opinion but can articulate it well. So I was like, what do you two five?
[00:05:43] Like, just 25% of some are called them to five. So he always has an off the wall and ping in. So I don't know what it is, but we all bought it here at live right now on sports course in order sponsored by sluices over excuses shout out on drain more gen sluices over excuses the sponsor for the day show.
[00:06:00] Like I said, it's going to be a lot of that conversation sluice over excuses and we're going to talk about NBA free agency. So teams got to come up with solutions Mike's going to get you what he got on this chest right now.
[00:06:11] All right. So two five moment. I would like to take a moment in time to give our hand to the law center this clippers. Why? Because they went for it.
[00:06:28] How many times do we watch sports? And we say this team is one player away. Why does this team never make moves? Why does this team not get a free agent? Why does this team not make a trade?
[00:06:42] So the clippers went out and got a guy that was coming off of winning an NBA title finals MVP. You know to get that finals MVP he had some conditions one of those conditions was I need y'all to reach out to Oklahoma and get the god at just finished third in MVP voting.
[00:07:03] They did that they went and got the one and only Paul George you know so we can look at it now and we could laugh at them. You know they got to the west of conference finals once.
[00:07:16] And you know, they got eliminated in the first round this year. They got eliminated twice in the second round including blowing a three one lead to the Denver nuggets before the nuggets became champions.
[00:07:35] So it's easy to look back at the results and laugh at them. But in real time.
[00:07:41] I will admit I didn't think the clippers were going to win a title. But I salute them from making the move. You know to me like when we look at these things like the broad James came to LA with a plan I want Anthony Davis and if they didn't win a championship.
[00:08:00] We might be having a similar conversation right now about them. But they did win a championship so all as well. But LeBron had a plan to liquor's executed it worked out the clippers had a plan executed it. It doesn't work out because as Mr. logical always says only one team can be the champion.
[00:08:21] Now for the same reasons right you got to team in the eastern conference this year.
[00:08:27] That had been to the finals been the six out of eight conference finals and you know what they winning got to validate they went out and got poor zingus because when you feel something is in your reach you exhaust yourself to get it.
[00:08:44] That's what the clippers did. So I'm not going to laugh at them. I will report the facts to you tell you why it didn't work. I will say that they should have known it wasn't going to work. But I'm a gift them to credit.
[00:09:01] For taking a chance business it's all about risk. Ask Donald Trump. How many times he got bankrupt? Just saying.
[00:09:11] Yeah, I like to say I like you two five of the opinion and I'm not I'm not going to disagree with it because like I said everything doesn't work out. The problem that I have with the clippers was the fact that they didn't make a better move.
[00:09:31] When the move they made in 2019. I think they just relied on the fact that in 2019 we made this move to get these guys and you move the picks and the picks turn into whatever you trade a player SGA yes went to Oklahoma City any turn into a stud.
[00:09:59] It's not enough ball action pause in LA for him to average 29 points again. What could be a good point to say anyway.
[00:10:11] If he had that talent in him we wouldn't have seen it at the level of we see it in the okay see the same thing with jail and brunch in the Dallas would look a people.
[00:10:21] It would have been hard in the okay see yeah it would just be like okay he's getting 14 to 16 off the bench and maybe one night when he's hot he stays in the game for 36 minutes and he gets 26 to 27 shots.
[00:10:32] So I can't kill him for that my thing was like when it was falling apart.
[00:10:38] I think they shifted to what I'm like I'm going to start calling give me to 41 they just wanted to keep enough talent on the team enough faces to put on the marquee so they could sell out there 41 home games because when co wise needs were falling apart he shouldn't have got the second contract after the one he saw in 2019.
[00:11:00] There's nothing that says I can rely on you and give you more than a hundred million dollars multiple times in this last five or six years like he can't even argue for it himself.
[00:11:14] But yet they did it then this week they signed James Harden the two years 70 million when they had him in the first place. But yet they gave him another 70 million so yeah I'm not going to laugh at them because I don't think it's laughable I just think.
[00:11:32] Just like you can say they went for it but you got to like. Back that up when it's just once it starts to go sideways they just kept making it worse a love Russell Westbrook is energy it didn't fit.
[00:11:45] Like it was not is it was not going to fit for Zingus and Druhaladi fit for Zingus can do multiple things as 7 foot 3 druhaladi can defend point guards. Maybe a small to small for it in the you two guard.
[00:12:02] Russell James Harden on the floor what can they provide you as far as if you want to put co wise Paul George on the bench and you had Russ and James Harden on the floor at the same time.
[00:12:15] It's nothing to finish it that's the problem I have with the clippers the fact that every year people send us their year and I get it you want to pick the team people want to be obscured people want to say right begin to hear you know I picked okay see.
[00:12:29] And it works out there's going to be a rhyme a reason I didn't think it was a lot of rhyme a reason to trust the clippers. For the since probably since that move like that year I think LeBron was like the brun at just got an AD.
[00:12:43] Right what I was like that was part of the. It was the year after right because I think it was supposed to be potentially it was going to be LeBron, AD and co wise.
[00:12:56] Right on the same team right so somehow like however that math worked out as far as a timeline that would have ruined the western conference because those three.
[00:13:04] Because you can probably give co at 30 games all if you wanted to you could let you probably give them 30 games all together too.
[00:13:11] But when it didn't work and he came with the king of LA commercial is all this stuff and it didn't that doesn't work you got to look at it okay where you go wrong and I think it went wrong with.
[00:13:20] They were trying to keep up with the Jones is being the Lakers versus like how we make our team better I think they just made poor decisions with their personal management. Well you know sometimes you just got to appreciate the fact that we learned that.
[00:13:35] That co wise a fun guy but you know what the reverse of the clippers right teams that go for it teams that don't.
[00:13:41] I know that they want to title in the last five years but Mr. logical can you explain to me what the hell are the bucks doing.
[00:13:54] I haven't seen much I've been trying I've been looking on the radar trying to figure out what they're doing that's the point they're doing nothing.
[00:14:02] I think maybe they feel like because the season was so discombobulated and then the injuries and the change in coaches you give doc rivers that 30 or 40 games that he had me be close to 50 games if he kept the playoffs.
[00:14:18] You give them all season institutes program you can be optimistic that something and we're going forward so this is the thing you know to be Milwaukee is not aware there's a war going on outside no man is safe from.
[00:14:33] You know Boston out here with a 940 million dollar starting line up the next win out here and trade it all hours starting line up.
[00:14:44] Yes that money doesn't make we're talking about basketball teams five dudes right and again the billion dollars the next win out here in got my k-o bridges you know now you got the supernova wild cat nicks.
[00:14:56] You know Billy will get to them in a second, but they went out and made some moves and Milwaukee's come back is we got the lawn white right and don't get me wrong I like the lawn right I think he's a good pickup for them for what they need as far as.
[00:15:11] The fence of guard a veteran another guy to get the ball out of Dame hands you know to control the offense let Dame come off as some of those screens and all that stuff that he can do.
[00:15:22] But at the same time look at what's going on around you yeah okay see that's that's where I mean I think we differ you can't look at what the Jones is doing.
[00:15:33] Yeah they're making our v pad on the side of the house across the street you don't need one you don't have an RV so don't go spend 25,000 dollars on concrete because you want your house to look like the one across the street.
[00:15:46] Yeah no I'm just saying like we feel like around if you're looking around and you think and.
[00:15:52] Do I have to get rid of three or four or five of my core guys and bring in three or four more and then hope the chemistry works or do I just. You might have been like you know what sometimes doing nothing is doing something.
[00:16:07] Keep your core wherever you got to pay and try to keep as many people in place because you already have enough like up and down with the injuries and everything else new coach the coaches all doctor of a stays on a hot seat so after you know what I'm going to keep it as simple as possible for you you already had these guys.
[00:16:27] Well, add a couple pieces here and there. These guys can make healthy they got lemonade and play all's pretty early like pretty much like what early. Are you there, mr logical.
[00:17:01] It looks like mr logical is not there so I guess I'll pick up where he left off or what I was going to say so when I look at Milwaukee it's not that I think that Milwaukee.
[00:17:10] I need it to just make this move jump out the window and you know go crazy and just say hey let us go get Paul George you know I'm saying that. You have to take inventory and look at yourself you know from the standpoint of.
[00:17:29] When I look at this Boston was right on the brink of a championship they were right there knocking at the door. And then they went out and got drew holiday and Chris stops for his English.
[00:17:43] Chris I mean drew came from a walkie by the way so it's not even that but what I think it boils down to is I make jokes all the time about how Joellen beads these are six to seven years older than the rest of him.
[00:17:59] Brook Lopez is actually that age. You know what I mean I talk about how. Why Leonard gets hurt all the time Paul George isn't always there when you need him you know who else gets hurt Chris Middleton.
[00:18:15] You know Dan Miller missed games in the playoffs this year so from the standpoint of where's the depth. You know so look at this you know they had Pat Beverly they're on the ball at the fans you know he's out of there you know you got.
[00:18:34] You know Jackson Andre Jackson who I like a lot but the books haven't been given him time that rivers didn't play him very much until he had to. Bobby Portis is he going to be back.
[00:18:49] You know you look at the rest of the books roster Pat Conninson who's he going to guard on any of those teams that I'm talking about whether that's the nicks whether that's.
[00:19:01] Hell he can't even guard KCP will get to that in a second you know bossed you know. Donovan Mitchell or Darious Garland will see if they keep their team intact so when I look at them walkie books it's not that.
[00:19:15] They all of a sudden need to go out here and spend all the money they just need to do something else. That says we're serious about winning and that's all I'm waiting for from the Milwaukee bus. You know as as I continue.
[00:19:36] Doc Rivers has a problem on this hands you know because Milwaukee doesn't have a bench they don't have any depth you know they don't have anybody else so if if they does miss a game.
[00:19:48] If you're on his does miss a game if middle to does miss a game if Brooke Lopez does miss a game who on that roster. Is giving you any confidence that they can just merely be competitive. That's the problem it's not about getting a star.
[00:20:04] You just have to solidify like the warriors right they had stuff played Raymont and you dialed the whole gang right but they had Sean Livestin. They had Barbosa or both of you know the name is Marley's.
[00:20:16] Yeah they had these people that for a quarter could get you six points that you get in count on or that you didn't necessarily need but it's a bonus now. That's what Milwaukee I think is missing because when you look at the nicks they lost heart and Stein.
[00:20:36] You know to me but they got the nobler boys do some big bright came into play all this year here a couple of shots you know you got Jericho Sims who could be athletic big off the bench.
[00:20:46] You know you look at Boston I don't need to talk about Sam House or Mr. logical does that enough you don't pay him. You know say I paint and preacher you know you look at who else am I looking at here you know like you look at Cleveland.
[00:21:02] They had carousel of vert who because you throughout the game. But every now and again you know he could get you 12 big points 16 big points Milwaukee doesn't have any of that well I mean.
[00:21:19] It might be a situation where you might just be so behind the eight ball with the moves that everybody else is kind of locked in because.
[00:21:28] Boston came about organically in an attitude piece is not a look well if you count adding Derek right over the last couple seasons well not a look unbeatable. Right.
[00:21:38] So I think you just you just stay in his holding pattern and hope that you could be competitive for the long because I think a lot of players and we talked about before we talked by football.
[00:21:52] Everyone's looking at what paid man was doing back in the early 2000s was trying to make trying to get a team to look like that is like not just get a team that fits you scheme fits you defensive coordinator.
[00:22:02] Like don't get guys that so when you match up against any potentially in the playoffs or in division twice a year. You can only stop them but now you get beat by everybody else because you got a bunch of.
[00:22:15] Tiny live backers and safety's playing you know trying to play man in man covers because they're going four five wide all the time and it's like now you playing against you know the Browns and the Browns running two three right at back sat you and he's like you're not built for that.
[00:22:26] Right. So sometimes you just got to match your personal with your coaches that and see if you can get. An extra notch out of each position. Can you get the next. Can you get these guys with chemistry to go to the next level.
[00:22:41] Because sometimes talent will get you over the hill like I think boss and a lot of times we talked about even with their the historic year they had this year it was some games were like.
[00:22:50] I live by three died by three those games when they go eight for forty from three nine for forty one from three stuff like that.
[00:22:57] But they had the talent to not do that back to back to back to back games right they'll have one off game the other team business 16 17 point lead and then they started shooting three to try to get back in it because that's what it felt like in game four against Dallas.
[00:23:12] Like Dallas got the lead 17 18 and Drew holiday was coming down. It was no action or picking role. He's like let me file this three maybe this three goes in it'll spark everybody else and they were they all they all kept missing.
[00:23:25] But then again five they came out blew them up because they have the talent to do that. Sometimes you think chemistry hopefully the chemistry gets you over the hump.
[00:23:34] And then maybe by the season if that's not the case you fired up you blow it up you don't do what some teams in what they just keep paying guys just to keep people in the building you gave them a chip I think small market fan bases will give you.
[00:23:48] Two to three extra years off your championship run versus a like a bigger marketing like the Miami heatals soon as the brown left the fans left.
[00:24:00] But like San Antonio they still coming out the games they just kind of no no no let you live off of hey you know we got it you got us a chip but you got to blow it up.
[00:24:11] So if the maps had clay Thompson they get an extra game in the finals. I think clay Thompson games two and three. Game especially game two where it was like I said the PJ Washington there why jail and brown chased down black.
[00:24:28] They call the file there not their down three coming back the other way I think plays a threat there because Kyrie's always a threat Lucas a threat now you got a guy like Clay who literally doesn't need to have the bones hands very long to be affected.
[00:24:43] You know so as you see if he comes off clean off the screen.
[00:24:48] You think it is going in it's like Reggie Miller coming off the screen like you think that the reason is going to ray out and come up you think that three is going in it doesn't always go in like stuff curry if you're down to.
[00:24:58] And the regular season you know he didn't hit a lot of shots in the postseason but like in the regular season if you're down two or three.
[00:25:04] And stuff is open and he fires it off you like this is going in it's like we're breathing third down you'd like this is going to complete it's starting to have he's getting eight yards right.
[00:25:14] So I think that could have gotten him some unless he's a defensive liability we didn't really see that in Golden State. Like I didn't see him being like a defensive liability I just felt like the team was just too small in general.
[00:25:28] So I don't know if that was like he didn't hold up his bargain defensively and whatever their scheme with her schematics were or just collectively they just weren't big enough to just defend.
[00:25:40] Like around the rim and near the rim with defensive rebound and they were just small team and shot them all that.
[00:25:46] Yeah, I like to move I like Dallas picking a clay I might not necessarily like the money they gave him but I understand that this is you know four time NBA champion.
[00:25:56] You know saying I mean not for this stage of clay but I mean it's a great contract when you look at where the salary cap is going you know what because there was rumors that the Lakers offered them four years 80 million.
[00:26:14] I think that was what a sign and trade because I heard this I've read the same rumor with.
[00:26:20] The clippers trying to get or go to state trying to get Paul George from the clippers it was a sign and trade I guess that whatever their money situation is they needed to sign it right. Right, they need it they need some kind of.
[00:26:34] And they have to get the base of all right because they didn't want to pay him the 30 million which was going to block them from doing other things. Now that would have been probably one of the most ridiculous contracts.
[00:26:43] Okay and I forgot like my son told me today in the cars oh yeah today in the car is like the way Chris Paul and like I forgot he was on the team. Yeah, he's that's it now. His impact like his impact was like minimal last season.
[00:26:57] So he got heard at one point as well but but I think gold estate and Denver ought to be ashamed of themselves. These are these are champions ship teams that are trying to cheap out.
[00:27:11] You know now I'm granted gold estate probably wasn't close to a championship anyway, but Denver is a year removed from a championship and they were just like. Sorry KCP. You know that they did offer him the same thing that Orlando offered him. But Florida doesn't have state taxes.
[00:27:31] So you know. Yeah, I get that but he's still got to pay the federal taxes still you still get the chunk. He's not going to be. Well he probably just respected in some way. Let them waste it.
[00:27:42] You know what's again is some business is not his first team. He's been on multiple teams. He's seen high goes and he's got a couple of chips to show for it is like, You're you you got to take your feelings out of these things this business.
[00:27:56] Well, like the business deal is like both sides have to walk away unhappy. You can't come to the table and be like I want all of these things and the other team gives and like your team just gives it to you.
[00:28:08] You know, okay cool we didn't want to give you all this but long as you're happy we're happy like that's not. That's not it works. You got to be willing to compromise on where like hey we're not going to give you 20 to me in a year.
[00:28:19] Do you think different paid Michael Porter too early? No because I think they knew this the salaries and the salary of cap is going to be going up in the TV deals and like all this money because I think it may go quickly got 175 million.
[00:28:34] I think 75 got 175 we saw it. Oh, the G got to 12 so it's like you got to steal with Michael Porter. You just got to get him to be willing to pump fake and shoot the 50 foot pull up.
[00:28:54] Yeah, because that makes them the best of biggest threat because if you think about a guy 610 611 that can shoot the three you got to close out hard.
[00:29:03] And if you just pump fake every eight every 4 3 corners you attempt pump fake to fifth one you'll get a wide open either laying to the hoop.
[00:29:13] Because all the rotations or did you get a nice little 50 foot jump well like I feel that you know we've heard reports that Jamal Mary is going to get paid this summer. You know Eric Gordon's due to get paid next summer.
[00:29:27] So you know they had to make a decision I guess that somebody had to be the odd man out what's crazy to me is that given the conversation you and I just had a few minutes ago. Apparently, Yoke is just pushing from Russell Westbrook.
[00:29:44] I mean he won't get tired. I just I don't know I think what Denver is looking at. They're looking at okay we got these four guys Yokeage Murray Gordon Michael Porter Jr.
[00:30:03] If we can put six viable NBA players around them that can play their role right we'll be fine we're a 55 when team with six.
[00:30:16] Average or just above above average NBA role players with our starting with our star four so if they think Russ can come in and give them the KCP energy.
[00:30:31] And just that that maybe that edge but just Russ I think I don't know what was going on with him and LA but it seemed like a lot of games he just was like out there trying to get attacked.
[00:30:41] I was trying to give them energy because like you know just come into words to end the season Paul George had came out saying you know we don't have an identity.
[00:30:51] Tyron Lou came out and said we're saw so I think Russ was trying to just because they have a bunch of guys that they had one two.
[00:31:02] Two guys that one league MVP one guy that was a final two times finals MVP and then Paul George has been like the people's MVP.
[00:31:12] Every since he was with the Indiana pace I think and I think people like Paul George I think the team is probably looking like we should be doing better.
[00:31:21] I should be the one that's putting us in a position to do better and like I said when we walk you maybe you sacrifice some talent for chemistry and hopefully that chemistry gets this eight to twelve more points just off a guy knowing like youngness knowing that this guy's cutting to the basket or.
[00:31:42] Some ladies open for three and the honest gets in the ball and then gets in the ball like just that I don't know if.
[00:31:50] The the clippers had that so I think that's the rough thing with Denver I think they believe they have the the culture that Russ can come in and they can probably let him do what he does.
[00:32:03] Because he looks to pass he looks to rebound he looks to push the ball so it's not yeah he doesn't shoot the three well but.
[00:32:11] Most of these guys shooting all these reasons shoot that well so people talk about it so three point league now yes a lot of dudes out there shooting 29% from three.
[00:32:19] It's just that it's acceptable shot now because analytics is like oh we don't want you to shoot a 22 foot two pointer or 24 to two pointer to shoot just 23 foot.
[00:32:28] Three pointer so if that doesn't go in it's it's you know still better odds or whatever the case may be. As of this moment. As we sit here right now obviously free obviously just started yesterday. I know but we're not.
[00:32:44] I mean, I think he finally make it he final declarations. But Dallas better than Denver right now. Because I because I feel that if Denver would have beat Minnesota I felt they would have taken care of Dallas and got to the finals as they were.
[00:33:04] But as they are at this moment no KCP acclated Dallas did them the Dallas just jumped them on in front of Denver. So you were saying so you think that Denver would have beaten Dallas because.
[00:33:17] Or like they would have done some defensively with Luca that Minnesota didn't do. No I think that Dallas just wouldn't have had an answer for Yoke it's number one. You know, like I just don't see.
[00:33:30] You don't think live land Gaffer would have been able to because Yoke is coming right at you. I think the thing that the reason I felt lively and Gaffer were somewhat.
[00:33:43] In efficient in the Boston series is because all the bigs from Boston don't come right down Hill at you. I think they move you around. Yoke is just shoots over you like he's coming right down the lane. He's coming right down the line.
[00:34:00] That's necessarily talking about the scoring. I just think that Yoke puts the rest of the nuggets in positions to get better shots. They've been as old as getting. Yeah, I think. Like I think even with. I think you would have been able to do what like we said.
[00:34:21] I mean, I think that's why I said mine me did my game two or three other finals a year before where you could just plan straight up.
[00:34:26] I think they played them straight up with them and just let them shoot a bunch of shots to take loot everybody else because like I said, lively and Gaffer. They wouldn't have to really defend Yoke at the three point even though he does shoot trees.
[00:34:39] He's not running out there. It's not like he's got nothing on the picking roll so they're already on his hip.
[00:34:46] On his way out there where it's for Zing is is running off to get the screen to get it open look from three because like that's the play call.
[00:34:53] Horford is standing in a corner like I'm not even getting close to him but I'm standing over here in a week waiting on the ball. But I also think that quarter and Gordon take the other defenders out of the paint too.
[00:35:05] Gordon to an extent like I said, if you put the pistol here, you're going to put on a look at it. Because like I said, I think Yoke is just going to do his stay. I think you're to put KCP on them right?
[00:35:16] And then he would have torched them. They would have had to switch it up and I think that's when guys like that's I think Dallas probably still beats Denver because I don't think they have an answer for Luke.
[00:35:30] No, and I don't think they have a person that Luke has to guard to exhaust an energy either because he's not going to guard you more Murray. So, so as we're looking, you know, you brought it up or one of us brought it up.
[00:35:44] What do you think about Chris Paul to the spurs? I'd like it in a sense that it's a veteran leader but I don't recall pop having a point guard centric offense.
[00:36:07] Where because Tony Parker was a point guard, I don't recall him consistently game at the game standing at the top of key dribbling ball. Making called with his offhand like dribbling ball with his left hand, put people in positions and like running the offense that way.
[00:36:24] So unless they're there to mentor another young point guard that they have, somebody think that want to play point guard and they wanted to absorb what's what they did. Just left my guy at number four.
[00:36:37] So, I mean anytime you get a good basketball player to your team is should work, especially with Chris Paul no championship expectations because there's no championship expectations in the San Antonio. I think he'll make them better.
[00:36:52] I think he'll be able to teach guys like this is how to get to this spot when I want it if you want the ball here.
[00:36:59] Get here first and I can do this and get you on the side of what of a case would be I think he just he'll be able to like teach the floor differently than a young point guard wouldn't be.
[00:37:08] Are we removed are we too far removed from the point where Chris Paul's presence slash IQ could have the spurs in the play and conversation play and in the west you got to be a 44 wins. So 44 38 so that's what 22 win improvement for them. Or yes, about 16 about 16.
[00:37:36] I mean over the course of career that's what he does but obviously. Yeah 16 it so about 16 to 20 wins gets you in the playing conversation in the west. I think every team in the west want to three four five four was the clippers five was Dallas.
[00:37:53] I think the clippers are probably the only team that we can probably definitively say will drop from four to seven six to seven. I don't think Dallas drops from where they were I don't think okay see Minnesota Denver drops.
[00:38:10] I think you're four your top five I'm still be there. The lakers haven't made many booze and they have a of novice head coach. So I can't imagine that they're going to leap frog from where they are in the playing round playing realm.
[00:38:25] Maybe they get the six because the clippers are slipping. And they make a pretty merry. New Orleans got to me the job to very move Zion State's healthy I think they still got brand angle but I think he still might be on a trade block.
[00:38:39] Yeah, sounds like Sacramento is trying everything in their power to get him. So I figured which I like if that were to happen. I was Sacramento trading for brand angle my figure they got to give you something back into all the second.
[00:38:51] Work alongside with Murray and Zion Wemsson so. They have to move up like they think so. As of right now only team.
[00:39:04] We need to say I mean they make a move yet the way they say anything about the rockets you know what I mean like they were right there in the play in mix. Yeah, but all the rockets.
[00:39:14] I have seen because it just seemed like they just had a spurt like we talked about it before their team doesn't make sense. You have a bunch of young guys trying to set themselves and you have other guys in that position that so.
[00:39:29] You're probably writing the same book that they're in right now. I got another little mini get it off my chest real quick. All right, unfortunately it's still about the clippers. Hey women so much.
[00:39:44] The laboratory like I was sitting there you know last season they brought on Josh Primo at one point. You know said cut him and then they bring in Kevin Porter yesterday. I saw like somebody like I saw that and I was like that's a weird thing to applaud.
[00:40:08] He had a great six week stretching grease. Hopefully you know everybody deserves second chance as I get it. I'm just I'll hold my tongue on it because I just think something some.
[00:40:23] I get it I used to be 20 something I was in that case I was a wild boy so. I got my second chances I got my you know my opportunity to make mistakes and move on. I've never put my hands on a woman.
[00:40:36] But that's just me but it may have worked out for him to you know get his head straight because. I don't want to I don't understand like I get that you know you can lose you're not always in charge of emotions,
[00:40:51] but you gotta keep the main thing to make thing you already know what's happened and the league. Even the legal consequences of it, but just in the league just the accusation can get you kicked out. I think it's a big small football basketball.
[00:41:06] I haven't really heard much about any kind of suspensions in hockey but I'm pretty sure they're going to run along the same lines.
[00:41:12] But yeah, the clippers are winging it and I think they're there in the position where they're desperate and I think they've been desperate since they made the move in 2019 when it wasn't when it didn't work when it didn't work that follow season. You ready? Yeah.
[00:41:33] Tell us how desperate Philadelphia is. Well, I'm trying to take over this show. No, I was trying to put you on the big screen. You can tell us how much you hate the Paul George move. We can stay here and keep it simply not me.
[00:41:53] I just have a difference of opinion on the Paul George move. I think that it looks like they're going for it. It just the player that they added just might be a few years past, whether trying to go. If they had to young up and coming stars,
[00:42:15] like say, Francis, if the nicks would have made the Paul George move, I'll have to be like, okay, that's elevating the group that they already have. I'm not sure who the core is and Philly, aside from Max and M.B.
[00:42:33] And B. just by the nature of how he plays and it's injury history. And he comes back from injury because you can't just if you're 75% I believe a couple of times in the play outside
[00:42:46] heard a mention that said he was around 75% 80% and the playoff and you have to play your plan hurt. And then you fall in, you're big guy, you're battling big guys or even just the defensive presence at the rim.
[00:43:04] So you don't even get a break where he doesn't have to be the rotational guy that tries to get the block, which a lot of guys collide, a lot of fall in there. We sit out a lot at the rim.
[00:43:14] So the fact that he is in the physical position that he's in, bringing in Paul George is kind of bringing in another potential problem that that sure he had wouldn't be.
[00:43:27] And aside from that, I don't know who the core is that you can still rely on if one of them isn't there. You know what the problem is?
[00:43:39] The problem is and be came back from injury because you know if you're to fill it up to your 76ers, you sit there. We talked about this last week, you know, you feel like hey, we took the next to six games.
[00:43:54] You know, he put up 50, we lost two of these games. You know, the one game where Maxie got grabbed, they didn't call it, some other late games shenanigans. So you feel like hey, even with that 75 to 80% Joelle and B, we damn there took the next out.
[00:44:13] You know, so now you tell yourself, you know, like you're sitting there like what are we missing? What can we do? And you say, well hey, Paul George is out there because you could probably, they probably could have traded for Brandon Ingram, for example.
[00:44:27] But Brandon Ingram is not the same type of player, like he's the type of dude that needs shots, needs whatever all George can be another facilitator to keep Maxie from having so much set up the offense, run the offense responsibility.
[00:44:41] Paul George and my opinion has a little bit more left in his tank than say, clay does, you know, from the standpoint of not being the take over guy or coming out to score 30, but
[00:44:55] I'm not going to get you have to like how much would you have to pay Brandon Ingram, you think probably about the same that you pay Paul George. You think you'd have to give them two 12 after the trade. I'll know about two 12, but it'll be close.
[00:45:10] I mean he's what 70 years, 70 years younger to. Yeah, but I don't know like on a fist contract is up. Yeah, I don't know if this sign of trade would require you to extend him right now.
[00:45:21] So like you say, well, like you could look that up and I'm just going to like just a little idea. We talked about in the draft Zach Edy going to Memphis right.
[00:45:31] Jaren Jackson Jr. was the fincily player to year, like the previous season, but they say he's not a five. So now you bring in Zach Edy, you teach him to play the five that takes your stress off of.
[00:45:47] Jaren Jackson. Hard to understand, yes, he went to okay see for 87 million could you have made that move with, you know, would he had gone from New York to Philly for 80 million or three years.
[00:46:05] 66 million or something like like, could you have gotten him to play to five straight up and then play in beat at the four to where. I mean, look how many stretch for is on the lead now you got that four has the garden beat.
[00:46:20] So anger him right now is on a five year 158. And he would be a free agent 2526. Yeah, and he would be 28 that year when he becomes a free agent and then I think he gives you the same kind of scoring and.
[00:46:39] Well, he gives me better scoring than Paul George would but he doesn't give you the first. He doesn't give you the ball handling he doesn't give you the defense.
[00:46:49] He doesn't give you the I kid, but you wouldn't need that if you can go get another five and that way in B can save his knee. We got a five they wouldn't got Andre, drumming. But Andre drumming is a clutch.
[00:47:03] He has a clutch keeping it a bean like he's a club for travels like he. It only seems like he's unserious on there. That's not he can go and B can't go to the bench for was it a 48 minute NBA game.
[00:47:19] He can go to the bench for 16 minutes with drumming in there by himself. They brought Kelly Ubrae back, you know on a cheap deal, you know, 16 mil over two years they brought in Eric Gordon, you know, one of their own more is guys.
[00:47:35] So I'm guessing that means buddy hill is probably voted off the island. We know our poor guy are that's why it seems like you said when in being coming back from injury now fully thinks, you know, we are a couple plays away from beating the nicks.
[00:47:53] Not realizing that in game five you had to hear a heroic performance from max in the last 30 seconds did not get you swept a gentleman swept out of New York when they were in the garden. So they probably think like we're only like we're this big move away.
[00:48:09] There's like, you might be three smaller moves from being east and coffees finals bound. But now you put all your eggs into the Paul George basket and I think you might think they might still end up with a second round exit.
[00:48:23] I don't see how to move and maybe I'm just blind because I just don't believe in filling.
[00:48:31] I think I think Billy is just in that situation right like we're like not I don't want to call them the clippers, but a lot of clipper fans or people that believed in the clippers.
[00:48:44] They always said if we could have got a full healthy, kawai Paul George you just let the chips fall where they may. You know, I mean that's the boat that Billy's in like even if it be somehow stays healthy Paul George isn't the healthiest.
[00:48:59] So so like you're relying on two dudes, you know like I said like I was saying when you were having your difficulties, you know and be. And beats needs are five years older than the rest of him absolutely like he's taught girly status at this point.
[00:49:16] Yeah his head's 30 but his knees at 34 and half yeah Paul George is third one to be 35 this year.
[00:49:23] And we've seen that not that he's falling off he hasn't fallen off but we're seeing the decline the at least the start of the decline maybe he's in the middle of the decline but the decline is here.
[00:49:35] Yeah if you think they have two guys on the decline that are like if I look up in a beat he probably has at least 100 million left on his deal so unless Maxi you know.
[00:49:47] And this is where Philly isn't going to do this if they give Maxi the keys to the car. And turns Maxi into a 29 point of game score while letting him be you know do his thing maybe some more low management.
[00:50:04] You got Paul George there to initiate the offense that things up hit or Gordon on the wing hit Kelly Ubrae on the wing did you know maybe you can you know but that's a lot of it.
[00:50:16] If yeah and that's the problem you know to be where's with the nicks for example. You know they got the Villanova set now and I know Jill somebody told me other day but Jalen Brunzons hurt not like he broke his hand.
[00:50:30] Like he doesn't have an ACL he doesn't have an Achilles you know to me like his hand will hit him.
[00:50:38] Yeah and they'll be back you know he's got his guys that he has chemistry with we saw that now the question is do you move Julie as round of book what I was going to ask you was. If you were Philly. I'm listening to you.
[00:50:54] I'm just going to admit I'm looking to be information if you're Philly. Would it have been better to try to snatch OG when he first was unhappy with the nicks offer. Versus Brigadin Paul George. But then again OG's another injured dude.
[00:51:20] Who you like so if you bring it OG you still would have I don't know if he's the offensive threat that Philly wants he's not and I if I'm thinking if I'm derabory
[00:51:42] And he's an analytics three point offensive mind it guy the memories time in Houston right and his time in Philly.
[00:51:50] It feels like Paul George strikes to the floor and he's a good defender I don't know how great he is now but he's a good defender smart defender and he still six foot he would have seven foot wingspan like you can't get rid of that so defensively he's probably looking at okay.
[00:52:07] I can get a guy that can give you 21 and a half 21 six and six. You know nightly bases and play. Formable defense with in be behind them and just like a lot of delicious role players.
[00:52:22] That's it like it works but if you have OG he's not he's not a threat on the offensive in to spread the floor now you got to be dealing with double teams all the time.
[00:52:32] So I think it was probably wise not to do that because especially if you're going to pay him both 21 or 12 million and like one guy's not going to give you the same offensive output.
[00:52:40] Like I said I think the move for Paul George probably the best move they could make I just feel as if. Philly is just a couple of years behind on all of their moves.
[00:52:54] I think they gave up they gave up on the Jimmy Butler, Ben Simmons and B core two quickly like I think they could have sat down and just been like you are. Men man the three of you present probably the biggest obstacle to pose in teams.
[00:53:13] Co-why got that shot off it was his year but we've been talking about the East is weak. My knee heat got to the final NBA finals twice in the last four or five seasons and half their team was undrafted.
[00:53:29] Or slim way to America basketball players like that's the least in this working for everybody else but it worked for them twice I think they keep that quarter together.
[00:53:37] Philly's an NBA founders at least once had these last five years and apparently my amy is pretty content the stand pat from reports that have come out earlier today.
[00:53:48] It sounds like they're not going to necessarily exhaust themselves to make a move I mean at this point there's not much out there as far as you know, a Paul George level player or you know those play the Mar de Rose and you know it's probably not the fit next to Jimmy Butler so there's no need to do that move.
[00:54:06] So you know allegedly you know, the Mar de Rose and the Lakers may be back on you know. But that was the same thing we heard about last year.
[00:54:16] Well last year I think the Mar made it known that he wanted to stay in Chicago it was the media that wanted him to go to LA because you know they're trying to build the broader championship team. You know to be a.
[00:54:30] And the conversation about like getting players to LA is all it's weird and Nick right broken down all first things first and I know he's a I don't know if he's a clutch guy but he's definitely a Brian guy and I think he kind of had a little bit of clarity he's like.
[00:54:46] Any day kind of blaming on the front office but he's like it seems as if either the Lakers don't have what it takes to land these players. They don't have they don't have what it takes to land the players or.
[00:55:00] The general manager just isn't good enough to get people don't like him because you know he was an agent not on you know he was Kobe's agent so I think he probably ruffled some feathers. Or maybe he just doesn't have the personality that she needs maybe.
[00:55:16] But when you look at it over look for me to overlook the for me to overlook the fact that like. Like I can not like someone and like in a sports group page for for instance but if you're.
[00:55:29] But if you if you're engaging enough and these conversations back and forth and you're like okay I can rock with it I might not like all your opinions,
[00:55:37] but if you can come back with something that okay I see you point on that all we disagree and I can see you point.
[00:55:43] I can I keep rock with you, but if it gets to the point where like everything you share is just of a noxious I'm like I can't rock with you.
[00:55:51] And I think Policom might be in that boat where's like you know you're not even giving me the best deal. That anyway I could give me you know Lakers just supposed to be the criminal.
[00:56:00] Think about it like you're giving me these these crummy these crummy sales pitches something has to be off to the point where they haven't landed anyone that LeBron hasn't said.
[00:56:12] Yo come here till everybody you don't want to go anywhere else so like think about it though so like if you're somebody like Chicago let's say you know hypothetically you know.
[00:56:24] I don't think the Lakers could just straight up go get the rose and I think it has to be a son in tree. You know to me and with that being said you're asking somebody to take the angel over us.
[00:56:36] You know to me like you're asking somebody potentially. You're like like I don't know which are offering that because people do this thing like with the Kyrie thing right that was fun.
[00:56:49] Brooklyn was just like we're not sitting you to LA you know me like even though LA probably could have gave them better than what they got from Dallas.
[00:56:58] You know me but at this stage in the game if you were a GM and the Lakers came to you for your best player on your team. What can they offer you they don't got no damn draft picks.
[00:57:16] They can give you like seven second of picks those seem to be getting given a 1.9 million dollars. It's something but for my best player though LA they all the bulls but he is their best player. But if he wants to go I think he's a freeze.
[00:57:34] He is a friend but like I said I don't know if the Lakers have the money was to just like you don't you might have to get like a third team involved like the industry so like I wish I like I worked on one of these officers.
[00:57:45] If you're willing to use all this like fully understand it so we can have more specific conversation about it but. The Lakers or or the Lakers being a team. Something it has to be something that they don't have the money. Because Steve Palmer has the money.
[00:58:02] Yeah yeah that's why we were just. Because he was just beauty jankies. He had money and he's willing to pay the tax. uh... we see that the boss and owners ready to sell the team after he put a
[00:58:13] billion dollars star line about their people get six and a half billion for the team probably more um... that's what we talk about yeah i think but i think the cowboys of like the most valuable franchise i think they're there the last thing i heard was like
[00:58:26] arad was like they're around six and a half billion if you've got six and a half yeah yeah so i mentioned that the mba franchise but the you know all the faces all the people you can you know advertise you probably get six and a half billion
[00:58:40] maybe seven which will be the mannest to think about but the leakers the leakers problems filious trend in towards being what the leakers are currently are you you have stars you have star power you have the market you have this media driven expectation
[00:59:02] but when it comes down to when we open up your books is like you don't have the pieces to meet the the man's with the media has leveraged upon you the leakers are in that boat now where they have the brunnade and he've
[00:59:16] had them for last few years but each year is like they keep like the other values around them are diminishing fillies in that boat uh... we saw it with the trait i mean it just quickly fell off like they were a good
[00:59:29] team for all those years and then it just it just stopped shot out the Tobias Harris baby getting that money you know it's like the wheels like the wheels came off boss and wood was in that boat but they they had brunn
[00:59:42] the bail amount by taking kg and all those picks and everything else and think they was going to microwave a championship and it worked out because the two guys they drafted in atop three two years on a row
[00:59:54] are their core right he doesn't work out and i think fillies in that boat where they're going to be like LA where they should be a better team but they don't have the right pieces around their two stars and a b
[01:00:08] played a lot of games last year i think the brunnade like sixty eight or sixty nine games on like that maybe close to seventy at the eighty play like seventy six so they played a lot of games
[01:00:17] it just had i heard on another podcast i believe it was like Stephen A. Smith said this and it's like something that made a lot of sense he was like i know they're overall three point percentage was like 37 percent
[01:00:27] but they don't shoot a lot of threes but they there's 37 percent he's like but to me he's like to my eyes it was a lot of games where the role player needed to hit the three to make it one-o-four and a one-o-four and missed
[01:00:45] they're down one hundred down two and this person gets an open three and they would miss so they hit 37 percent throughout the course of the game but in those clutch moments those guys didn't knock down the three and i think they're that's what filly
[01:00:57] is going to be dealing with like in those clutch moments where i'ma say clutch moments like a whole game that you miss Paul George or like a week where and b doesn't play because of a neat you know knee-sournice those four five games that he might miss
[01:01:10] who's going to be a goddess step up that's why the lakers are always in the news and they're going to get another guy because people i think people really want to see the brunnade and b
[01:01:19] finals i think that whole you know we talked about the this current the past series boss and and Dallas i don't know what the numbers were but i guarantee you probably they probably didn't do women's final four
[01:01:33] numbers in each one of these five games that played because i think people just felt like after game one it was under like this that that was can't compete then at the game two and it was like it was close but once it got the three out
[01:01:45] they would look i think people tuned out probably for the last two games i think if the bronze and the finals they the thinking is probably this is going to be the greatest finals ever so we let's get them there and it's like
[01:01:57] his team isn't really built to make that run right well you know at at the stage you know look at the draft fix you know that they don't have look at the players that you would have to like
[01:02:13] yes you like there's a chance that you would need a 13 you know but it goes back to that same thing if i'm the 13 what's in it for me yeah who am i getting from where right shikago
[01:02:27] i don't know how full their cover there's but i can't imagine that a team like Portland wants to get involved just to help use other two teams get better like i i don't know what you know what it's important getting the bowl's broadened guinea and that's where
[01:02:44] the marge said keep the family away you know i'm trying to keep the family safe you know and then you know they got vuchachitch who they're potentially trying to come off of they just paid Patrick Williams Kobe White isn't going anywhere you know
[01:03:03] what else is what else is there you know in the NBA we're talking about like moving team they definitely can't expand they don't have the talent to add to teams so if they're trying to get this Seattle Vegas
[01:03:17] Kansas City and what other other city they were trying to talk about putting the team in you don't have the talent to do that just yet you might be able to move two teams but there's no there's not enough star power to go around
[01:03:34] because not enough personalities i mean you got the young what it's got to draft about he's not making tick taxes to draft hey so you know before we get out of here i want to let
[01:03:45] the public know i am a man of my word i said that if the Oklahoma City Thunder or to get Isaiah heart and Stein i'm picking them to go to the finals so here i am i'm picking them to make the finals and it's not because El residentate
[01:04:06] i think that Isaiah heart and Stein is this great player or you know he's just going to come there an average 27 and 13 and you know it's none of that it's the fact that okay sees
[01:04:20] Vegas weakness this past year besides experience was re-bounding you know and now you know because mr. logical for the last two weeks has been on this whole let's see some 20 towers you know that you got some 20 towers and this is the difference this is the thing that
[01:04:37] might be the new ways yeah and this is the difference they got athletic 20 towers that go together because like look at that Memphis right jern jackson is obviously the athletic one
[01:04:51] he not so much we have a defined this is my center this is my power forward however you want to look at it we talk about it over here yeah i think i think can we're to go bear work i know like the
[01:05:04] masses and mainly the media have been hearing a lot of talks about moving cat i'm like why i think that's the new trend is over reaction like you and we say you like you bet the mentioned
[01:05:13] Portland yeah with clinging in uh they just drafted clinging in they had the answer eight eight and i had asked you like is it does that mean eight is under blue if you said no so it's hours
[01:05:25] you're gonna need so when i look at okay see it's not about heart and stine per se because you still got sg a chat's going to get better you know to be you got jelent Williams who's going to get better
[01:05:39] to your point about course you know they kept Isaiah Joe you know they brought their bring it back Aaron Wiggins so heart and stine is just the next piece of the puzzle like he's like it
[01:05:51] and you could have him you can give him four responsibilities the fin the rim the fin's of rebound set screens offensive rebound and he could do those four things for eighty seven million dollars
[01:06:06] yeah i guess what and it and if that's all he has to do i guarantee you can do well because the same practice on it just what if i want to chat you could stay out here
[01:06:18] on offense on offensive offensive yeah you could stay out here and defensively i could put chat on a small four and just it just give a guy like PJ Washington help just with the length
[01:06:29] right so now you know i put loot dort and somebody's aggressive smaller you know defensive back size players that i have and just have chat like you know chat just use your length
[01:06:39] on the guy who doesn't get a lot of shots you engage defensively maybe you get a couple of blocks run out you you force some bad shots you get the big man down there rebound and i think
[01:06:51] that the NBA's going in waves and i talked about this a lot and on the on the in our group about like the star power we know we talk about the foreign players coming in we talk about
[01:07:00] the you know the draft while these french guys and i get it but it's a wave word now i think you're you're gonna have a few young guys there's gonna be a lot of old heads that people think
[01:07:13] are gonna be like you know in the lead for a while you know 2025 is coming like 2025 is close and Chris Paul might play this year i can't imagine playing longer Kevin Durant you got this season
[01:07:30] i mean maybe you get one more year after that give me another one stuff stuff is young and i know he moves i mean you know in your 30s you're young but in the NBA you're old
[01:07:40] how many more years does he want to play how does drake mons attitude look because do you really want to go out there next year and play 82 games and half of him drake mons getting
[01:07:51] has has technical like behavior every single game is like i can't keep dealing with this you see that what's that so not only and i know i don't want to beat this team of death but i just saw some news not only did the
[01:08:07] clippers bring in dirt and jones junior for 30 million they just brought in the one in only mombaba these tall and i don't know he does he's told him mombaba but but you know i'm just like one more thing on a real quick
[01:08:29] i had this written down how exactly the mean i'm tradable is it really the injuries or it's just like it's just attitude that back because like we all remember the draft when he got
[01:08:39] drafted by the timber the timber walls and he put his head down and he looked his head up and he was like fuck and he did and he said it was like over leaf i'm like dog we're all not experts in body language
[01:08:52] you know what about that with not a relief pick that was like fuck we're going to Minnesota one of my biggest what ifs two five moment what about biggest what ifs is what happened what
[01:09:05] would have happened if you kept Levine wiggins and towns together they just let them develop not the thing with one title is anything but just like you know i just wonder what it would have looked
[01:09:16] like you know after trying to get a free trying to get a comp after three to four years what would it have looked like but to answer your question the engine and the okay see
[01:09:27] would Kevin derand James hardened and no no no no no no no no no no no no no go be that they could have been spoiler baby but you know but but i just when i think of Zach Levine
[01:09:39] basketball's a team sport right okay i think of like Rudy gay you know the mean of this guy that's going to get points he's going to take shots you look at him and you're like this guy is a
[01:09:53] really good basketball player what is his team never win a lot of teams are really built to win i know and he seems to be on those teams you know because we talk about some of these teams are just
[01:10:11] not being good for for years and it's like what what the other day right that was the bull's first trade in the last three seasons just did all the team in the NBA to hadn't made it for me
[01:10:25] like i said i said before i said so in the face i'm not sure all these GMs know sports as much as they know business i think there's a lot of people who have like high higher
[01:10:40] education business degrees and maybe marketing maybe economics something in the finance world and i think they leverage that because there are certain positions of different corporate America and they just kind of leveraged that until these kind of positions because
[01:10:59] you Zach Levine should have been going out Chicago two years ago exactly but you should you should have gone ahead made that trade is like i don't know what your whole name just it was never
[01:11:08] going to work and if you look around and you were honest if you do sports you could see who was on the rise what coach if you have to keep getting new coaches in and things like that
[01:11:18] nature okay we need to change up something here and i'm not sure a lot of these GMs know what they're doing because i would have been moved with Levine but you can't sit there trying to get
[01:11:30] everyone's trying to get that ditty-y-s level bill bellot check tree kind of like like the forward chest yeah it's like you're probably not going to get four picks and four players like the
[01:11:43] goal here i'm trying to figure out since you brought that up i'm gonna say this real quick to say that I'm a dream player in a couple of picks yeah i'm gonna say this real quick
[01:11:50] and then i'm gonna bring up something so like you know how bad the bulls are the bulls are so bad that they made the play in the last two years and i still rather be a wizard's fan
[01:12:06] that's how bad the bulls are but but what i was gonna bring up was i still don't know what you taught as plan is you know to be apparently they're they're not trying to treat marketing
[01:12:17] even though there's three to four teams that are interested in him including gold state you know including uh sacraments so if they can't get bi you know these teams are like interested in him okay see was before they got heart side and but you told us talking about
[01:12:36] we're gonna get these stars and trying to make a Paul George run or I saw it today that they were kicking the tires on a tray young and it's like y'all know what you're trying to do
[01:12:45] you taught just got that hockey team the jazz are like we gotta keep our star because the Utah the Utah sports fan is going to have probably like the greatest winner they had in some time
[01:13:00] because hockey at basketball we all know run concurrently so you're gonna be able to just kind of continue to get that new market at a probably maybe bump up the prices because now you have
[01:13:13] two professional teams along with MLS and everything else but as far as like two professional teams playing from October to June you need to make sure that you keep a good product out there
[01:13:25] because Utah fans are going to be everyone's going to be out everyone's going to be going to games trying to get a hockey games basketball games you don't want to be the team that's 13 and
[01:13:35] 30 at the halfway point and this hockey team is thriving so you can't trade away a star like Lorde Markman you just got to keep them to figure out what they're doing around them to keep
[01:13:47] that you know like I said the settles 41 games up because like I said the fans are going to be if you go to New York City on the yiki like if you like if I take a train from here to mad
[01:14:01] and I'm taking a train up town it is jam packed full of yanky fans during the rush hour because the games started like 6.30 to 7 so those people getting off work coming home whatever the case
[01:14:13] maybe it's the trains are so packed it's hot it's July and June and it's just packed but people love going to these games you can't lose that like we talked about the pirates
[01:14:27] their stadiums empty all the time like the Oakland Ace all the fans showed up one day the say don't sell the team none of them came back but certain cities were it's like it's just sports
[01:14:39] every single season right it's multiple teams plan at once here yet it's just you want to be a part of that and you don't want to be the odd man I like you don't want to be the team they can't
[01:14:50] sell at a home game when you have professor sports teams all year long selling out games right you want to keep you want to keep that in and you need a star you need a face and
[01:14:59] basketball that your environment the people around you can rock with a 6 foot 10 blonde dude is the perfect guy to have in Utah as your marquee player hmm and then last thing we got to spend a lot of
[01:15:13] time on this but like or anytime really but Charlotte just be doing stuff just to do it like you don't like so you got play so you got clay going to the mask and it's Charlotte's light just give us Josh Green then Josh Green couldn't hit the
[01:15:34] couldn't do it in this whole series he was wide open it was wide open for five games I think he had a run we knocked down three in a row and game three he had like nine nine and 12 points
[01:15:48] I had time off like three or four three it didn't score again and that's why it's the ball left through the hoop and that's why they are the Charlotte Hornets that's why we are sports
[01:16:00] reports as or because you go get some Hornets in jazz talk as well he is missed a logical don't bring you to a fact fight I am your unorthodox statistician have you heard day to America even though my people wasn't free at the time I was
[01:16:20] I ain't going to shit on your holiday yeah like I said so Lucius Ove excuses the links go be in the description shout out to black owned business veteran himself retiree yes so solution excuses all these scenes making these moves listen we need solutions no excuses we
[01:16:39] only did excuse that clay is old we don't want here to excuse that in bead has 40 year old these you paid the two 12 you paid the two or five the max you feel that you do something I want to
[01:16:50] come down to the world's father center check out a game I wanted to be chaotic I want to go to an infinity lie the wise people ride the bull while the six games are planned and there you know
[01:16:59] in the running for no number one scene to ease I want to see him be able to do it because the NBA needs parody and I think the last six years with six of the champions
[01:17:10] it should feel like parody but a lot of it feels like so many teams are just falling off so Slu-Sovic excuses LA you got two top 15 players out of care for our public election negotiating
[01:17:21] send higher an actor since somebody else said that we called this little watch and have to make a phone call for your point of view Jackson Solution of excuses point you think Mr. logical is trying to go to the finals and he wants LaBron to be there
[01:17:36] you know you'll fly up you know said I buy it sick and I'm doing this psychological representative of James Fabel he watch call me rich Paul call me listen we're packaged though
[01:17:51] no no no no no no no no projects and rich there's two bits no gimmicks rich I know I'd be talking a lot of shit but if they don't want the package deal I will go to Australia
[01:18:09] just let you know but we will be back for the lobby like review subscribe tell granny good night and we'll see you soon we love you peace

