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[00:00:00] Yes, you are now listening to this panel, Sports Reports As Ordered, and all through the

[00:00:16] Alamed of Orleans, everything was quiet, not even a mouse. Tonight we're going to talk to you about the quiet

[00:00:33] Dallas-Calibur about how and why the NFL still has such a hold of it. And we got a little

[00:00:44] bit of MDA too. And make sure you remember at some point next week, it's time for some baseball

[00:00:55] preview. Why for the time being? We're going to get this thing started to get off my chest

[00:01:03] after I introduced the even kill. The finger hole, do your bridges on stand up

[00:01:14] seen that Bill Bill Trenton Patterson, you know Sam representing the term fighting

[00:01:20] all the headaches that come back. Don't bring feelings to a fact fight. Don't do it. He is Mr.

[00:01:31] Logic. And then of course he is Mr. Logic. But you got to bring logic with me too. Because

[00:01:43] you got to be loyal to your logic. Because a lot of y'all's logic ain't loyal to you. So here I go,

[00:01:52] be an author now. Go left so much you wouldn't fall down in the Alamo via Charm City. I am 25. How

[00:02:12] do you do in grandma? You're going to be a practice. So as I mentioned before, we get this thing started off with

[00:02:20] hit it off my chest. Mr. Logic, please step to the microphone.

[00:02:31] You know like what you said there, I'm always going to miss a pair of friends but like your logic isn't right,

[00:02:39] it won't make sense for you to try to like catch this conversation because people are going to be able

[00:02:44] to call you on it. So I'm real big on the coaches, I think coaches responsibility is huge. I think

[00:02:53] understanding what you say as a coach, you temperament how you interact with players, you know,

[00:02:59] young boys, young girls, older, you know, boys and girls, young men, the professionals. I think

[00:03:07] everything you say as a coach matters on real big on Sean Payton being all fours a coach,

[00:03:12] just the way he treated Russell Wilson as a veteran. Scott, you got gotten to lead 10, 12, 10, 11, 12 years,

[00:03:18] you got to talk to him differently. But if you're a college coach and you're getting players in that are

[00:03:25] getting a lot of influence, get a lot of information from all over the place, you need to be that stable,

[00:03:30] professional person that can go to because they're going to get the family and everything else. They're going

[00:03:35] to get, you know, information that they might make decisions based off of. So I saw press conference

[00:03:40] earlier, Kirby smart said that he doesn't like when guys sign or commit before there's senior

[00:03:47] year and then sit out there seeing your year of football. It's like, well, what do you expect this guy

[00:03:55] to do? Pardon me. What do you expect them to do if he goes out there, he's playing a collision

[00:04:04] sport and he's committed to Georgia, a school that everyone wants to go to. If you can get recruited

[00:04:12] to go to one of these top division one schools, Georgia being that school for football, any sport, track,

[00:04:19] football, batminton, swimming, whatever it is, one of these top collegiate programs. And someone's

[00:04:27] going to take like this man, don't get hurt because ESPN as a top 300 rivals has the top

[00:04:34] 300 scout.com is the top 300. Your state rank is have a top 300. Your, the nation has Gatorade has a top 300.

[00:04:43] So if you're a top 300 linebacker, you committed to Georgia and you get hurt, there's another one at you that 62235

[00:04:51] that runs a 444 that can fit and curries smarts program. So if you get injured in your senior year,

[00:04:57] there's no loyalty obligation to them as a school to make sure you make it. So

[00:05:05] if you're going to be a coach, I need to be responsible, understand your words like,

[00:05:09] you're going to put a kid in the position of where he thinks that he has to play his senior year

[00:05:14] in order to impress you and keep his scholarship and then get injured and lose it. Or now you're on record

[00:05:21] basically saying like, Oh, I want you to play a senior year. So now you get a guy who's coming out

[00:05:26] starting this August, he plays the senior year, they guess injured. I want you to stand at that podium saying, Hey,

[00:05:32] we had a guy that committed as a junior. He played his senior year. He got hurt. We're still bringing them in.

[00:05:40] He's going to rehab for a year. He's going to red shirt and then he'll be ready to work until the fold starting

[00:05:46] 2026.

[00:05:49] So if you go to the podium and say, I don't want a guy that's not going to play his senior year,

[00:05:54] then I want you to go up there when somebody does get hurt or their stats drop or their team doesn't want to stay

[00:06:00] championship. I don't want you pulling the scholarship because the performance from the junior

[00:06:05] year to senior year fell off because whatever factors at that maybe so that's all me like, listen,

[00:06:12] you can be a coach. You got the responsibility. You'll get it behind that mic. You can get this 12, 13, 14,

[00:06:17] $1,000 a year from the school, you know, on to the players and be a leader to the players.

[00:06:23] And that's why I keep telling people is I don't even think at this point, it's about the money.

[00:06:30] The coaches just missed the control that they had completely, Mr. Control. They miss it, you know,

[00:06:36] from the standpoint of before these players started getting NIL, getting paid, all this kind of

[00:06:42] stuff, you know, we talked about how the scholarships have to be renewed year-to-year.

[00:06:48] So, you know, a coach can just walk up and be like, sorry, son, you got to make room for our new

[00:06:56] five level prop or five star crop that's coming in. I'm sorry. And then at one point,

[00:07:04] and depending on when you leave, they're like, oh, no, no, no, no. You can't go to another SEC school though.

[00:07:11] Yeah. You know, they like not only am I pulling your scholarship, but I'm a tell you

[00:07:17] where you can and cannot go. And it's at the end of the recruiting cycle for the other

[00:07:22] schools that there's no spot for you there. Right now you going to Juco Rob. Yeah. Or you're going

[00:07:27] to try to walk on. And as I was saying earlier, you know, Baker Mayfield is the only person that I

[00:07:33] could think of that was a walk on and say ended up being a number one draft pick. Like, how many

[00:07:40] walk on I have to go back and do some research? How many walk on's eventually went in the first

[00:07:46] round of the NFL draft? Walk on and transfer. Right. You know, to where as the money is the important

[00:07:53] thing that people want to talk about. And you know, this is America, the land of capitalism,

[00:08:00] the land of opportunity. People come here from all over the world because of our principles,

[00:08:07] principles, you know, but yet we try to hinder how a kid can set up their future.

[00:08:20] Correct. Where's the opportunity? Where's the opportunity in that?

[00:08:24] The all it is, I want to say all, but you can tell majority of his control. Nick Sabin said as much

[00:08:30] when he talked about where about the kids getting money. Listen, these guys were getting money before

[00:08:37] we need to stop fronting what's my catchphrase don't piss my pocket and tell me it's raining.

[00:08:42] It's very hard. You can't convince me to move from Jersey to Alabama for a good paying job. Let alone

[00:08:52] you getting kids from California that come live in Hawaii, Tuscaloosa, Hawaii every year.

[00:08:59] You're getting the top quarterback out of Utah like to sit the bench in Alabama when he can be

[00:09:06] the man in Utah. Utah sports heroes are heroes. John Stockton, Carl Malone, Stockton Malone,

[00:09:14] Toyota they got car dealerships statues everywhere. If you are a top five star quarterback out of the

[00:09:21] state of Utah going to be why you or Utah, you're the man in issues. Your parents don't have to pay.

[00:09:28] Your parents don't have to pay for stuff if you're good at Utah but yeah, you can get these

[00:09:33] guys that come out of Alabama like cut it out. So these guys again, Pete, it's the control and I

[00:09:37] understand if it's out of control. If you have guys who are freshmen walk on five six one sixty five

[00:09:46] eight sub at listen coach, if you want me to stay at mid eight twenty five thousand,

[00:09:50] you're like I didn't really use on the team. I can understand that point.

[00:09:54] What I should do is make about a dude making like eleven twelve million dollars is concerned about

[00:10:00] somebody maybe making two hundred thousand dollars. Maybe if that and and Michael Warbond says something

[00:10:06] on PTI he was talking about a guy can like transfer out if he just they don't want to compete.

[00:10:12] It's not a bug in PTI. It's about I don't have this time to waste.

[00:10:20] Well, if you're in college how many years can you sit behind like if you because they were talking

[00:10:27] about the blue blood organizations, the blue chip organizations dying like the cause of basketball

[00:10:32] was like no they're just the talents being spread and I think people are just kind of looking at it

[00:10:37] from the standpoint where these top schools used to be able to stack talent. I want

[00:10:44] too late to get top players so when we get a game like too late versus use of it's a good game

[00:10:52] when we get Alabama versus Iowa State is a good game because everybody in the Midwest all the five

[00:11:00] star guys didn't go to Penn State Michigan or Ohio State. Think about it like this you got a guy

[00:11:06] like Malik Murphy. You know was down here at the University of Texas up in Austin he was in line

[00:11:16] to be the starting quarterback and then a guy by the name of Quinn Ewers decided that he was going

[00:11:21] to come back home so Quinn Ewers comes in beat some fair and square for the job okay you take that

[00:11:27] right? So then you say all right Quinn Ewers had a great year he's going to go to the nope Quinn came

[00:11:33] back you know said so then you make the playoff you're like okay you don't wish injury on anybody

[00:11:40] but if Quinn Ewers goes down right now I could have my tour moment come in the playoff be the hero

[00:11:50] get put on everybody's shoulders run off the field and I'm a legend. It's got Aris Manny right there

[00:11:55] you got Aris Manny right there and you know unless unless you look generational in archmaning looks

[00:12:06] like why is he touching the football it's his job once that time comes for all into you. You have to

[00:12:12] look like a four year NFL vet at college practice to be archmaning up for that spot so same thing with

[00:12:20] Joe Milton yeah he was supposed to be the next guy up in Michigan and then Jay Jay McCarthy comes

[00:12:27] so he's like well I gotta go because there's only so many times like you can be considering

[00:12:32] like people treated like the NFL is one thing if I'm getting paid to be a backup

[00:12:38] I'm getting paid a weight of my opportunity and college you're auditioning for the next job

[00:12:44] is like imagine you need a certain degree to apply for a human resources job

[00:12:52] but you can't take your final class because they keep bringing another student that takes you

[00:12:58] a spot so now you just wait like I can't even put together good resume for this other employer to

[00:13:04] hire me because every time I need to go take this last class of my final year to get this degree

[00:13:10] you guys won't let me because you bring somebody else in my spot that's what's happening

[00:13:14] and it doesn't happen for everyone and it's hundreds of schools and thousands of players

[00:13:20] everybody's not going to the NFL yeah like how McCord for example you know started at Ohio

[00:13:26] State this year freshman you know he didn't have the best year bio-hio state standards obviously

[00:13:33] but I mean come on he's a freshman right and he ends up now at Syracuse so it's not like he went

[00:13:42] from Ohio State to Penn State or he went from Ohio State to Notre Dame or he went from Ohio State

[00:13:48] to USC he went to Syracuse so he's still even though he left you could argue that he's still sacrificing

[00:13:57] yeah and he took an opportunity which everybody look at many guys went from ESPN to Fox

[00:14:03] ESPN to CBS ESPN to their own podcast you use what you have in this world like I was talking about

[00:14:12] before like if you're a physics major and you want to tutor people for $50 an hour you could have

[00:14:17] done that forever but if you're a football player and you want to be a personal trainer to help

[00:14:22] someone get the freshman 15 off after they came back from Christian's break and they pay you

[00:14:26] 50 bucks an hour it was an NCAA violation right so that I think the fact that people only look at

[00:14:32] it I mean granted we talked about context we talked about ton of vision all these conversations

[00:14:36] in these lot of these conversations that you have to be able to look at it from each point of view

[00:14:42] and come up with your logic because a lot of times if you come at it from one way is like so what

[00:14:48] happens when the coach from Washington takes Alabama job no one's talked about that since this

[00:14:54] happened we've been talking more about Nick Sabin and his comments by how he felt about the players

[00:14:59] versus the fact that a coach recruited players to Washington and left when the money was better

[00:15:04] for him to come to Alabama so if I lose again in Michigan because the quarterback can't find me wide

[00:15:10] open on the wire receiver and Ohio State comes called and they say hey we got another five star

[00:15:16] quarterback coming in you want to come up here and play with us absolutely they don't give me 80

[00:15:20] grand to come up I'm gonna do it the same way y'all paid them money for old boy to come for watching

[00:15:25] the Tuscaloosa I'm going from Tuscaloosa up to Columbus there you go you know so get it off my

[00:15:35] chest you know I know y'all been looking at the calendars or at least you should have been

[00:15:41] because today is Thursday what that means is in three days everybody's gonna be going bracket

[00:15:52] crazy the madness is here so I just want to say full disclaimer this is not what I usually do

[00:16:04] but I have learned throughout life there are exceptions to rules there are waivers

[00:16:10] there are ways to get around and there are loopholes in every contract what I have been thinking

[00:16:18] about lately is a team that is 28 and 6 number 29 in the net yes they haven't beat anybody

[00:16:30] but they won their conference in the regular season you know they have an all-time great

[00:16:38] nickname for their best player cream Abdul Jabbar classic Indiana State hasn't been a factor since

[00:16:48] Larry Burb was on the scene 1979 was the year when they lost to Magic Johnson and Michigan State

[00:16:56] in the national title game before Burd versus Magic was born in the NBA those two schools hadn't

[00:17:03] even played again until this year so here we are on the brink of March madness coming off

[00:17:12] of a four point loss to Drake I saw that Indiana State is listed as last four in okay this is my

[00:17:23] problem yeah my problem is you've got schools like Pitt and before it was Pitt it was wake

[00:17:31] force the only difference was Pitt beat wake force today so wake force was 8 and 12 in the ACC

[00:17:39] and the talk on the street was if they made it to the ACC semi finals they would be an NCAA

[00:17:47] tournament team even though they went 8 and 12 over the course of 20 games talk about your regular

[00:17:53] season not matter in Indiana State won their conference and went to their conference tournament

[00:18:00] title game when we all know that the conference tournament is only there for money so as I sit

[00:18:08] here and I look at this I'm looking at teams like Michigan State who are barely four or five games

[00:18:15] over 500 Villanova's even worse so Villanova beats Marquette without Marquette's best player

[00:18:24] they're suddenly going to be a lock it doesn't make sense to me because these teams get opportunities

[00:18:31] all year long to do the right thing so I'm looking at this right now

[00:18:36] Villanova finished sixth in the Biggest they're 18 and 14 overall

[00:18:49] but if they win against Marquette without their best player they're going to be a lock

[00:18:55] in Indiana State is going to be sitting at home sweating on selection Sunday so 19 to 14

[00:19:02] because you're a blue blood organization your in Indiana State being 28 and 6

[00:19:10] you know now granite Indiana State doesn't have the schedule that you want them to have they lost

[00:19:16] the Alabama by 22 they lost the Michigan State but the one metric that tells us how good a college

[00:19:26] basketball team is allegedly the net their number 29 when the highest team that has ever been left

[00:19:33] out was ranked number 32 so what are we doing here March madness if nothing else is supposed to be

[00:19:44] entertaining so how can you have March madness without the cream

[00:19:51] like I said we talked about in our pre meeting I would rather get a team in that has a player

[00:20:02] that people want to see a lot of names been made in terms of mentioning these things before

[00:20:07] yeah while Zerbiac Steph Curry a lot of schools will go with the South Dakota State Jack rabbits

[00:20:16] I mean hell last year if they you made the final four and say you made the final four I remember

[00:20:21] a couple of years I picked Vermont Gonzaga back in 1999 my senior in high school saved the best for

[00:20:28] last class night and I stand up butler butler made their run like I said Gonzaga I had my

[00:20:36] math teacher kept asking me he was like why do you keep picking them I'm like yo I saw their

[00:20:41] tournament because before Gonzaga this is before like right now we see everything with sports back

[00:20:48] in the day you didn't get to see Davidson on TV you didn't see Gonzaga on TV until it was their

[00:20:56] tournament then even then he might only saw the final because ESPN only had it was like ESPN 1

[00:21:04] and 2 maybe ESPN news spylight late 90s but I might as there was no ESPN you at the time it was

[00:21:11] no ESPN you there was no ESPN you know 360 no 360 no four tis all of that so like you were getting

[00:21:20] you would get the WAC championship you would get the Sunbelt Championship game you would get the

[00:21:27] AAC Championship game so I saw Gonzaga and that and they had a guy in the I think his name is Matt

[00:21:33] Santangelo I was like he just he just looked on guard and then slowly after that Gonzaga became a

[00:21:39] household name but that's what the tournament is about and I think now it's like every do you

[00:21:44] want all the entertainment everything about it if a team loses 14 to 15 games granted they can

[00:21:51] become from a big conference they had opportunities to win big they had opportunities to improve better

[00:21:58] they had better facilities have more money to have all these things let the small school in

[00:22:03] or let me check myself real quick too I got my numbers mixed up because I'm watching Boston

[00:22:09] college in Virginia right now Austin colleges eight and 12 week for us was 11 and 9 in the AACC

[00:22:16] but the point remains is that if Boston College wins tonight

[00:22:21] they're off to the AACC semis to play against NC State who just upset Duke

[00:22:29] they win that game go to the AACC tournament final and if they win that game they get the automatic

[00:22:35] bid and somebody like Indiana State who's played well all season gets knocked out away for 14

[00:22:44] that played well over five days so you talk about college football but the regular season isn't going

[00:22:53] to matter yeah we can see how much you care about that you know but yeah so then all was quiet

[00:23:03] the Dallas Cowboys were able to steal Eddie Kendrick's away from San Francisco somehow

[00:23:09] but they haven't done much else what is going on down in Jerry world mr. logical I think

[00:23:20] they only think they really need to address probably was the Renateback position

[00:23:26] I don't know why a billionaire would be that concerned with giving a guy 18 million dollars

[00:23:34] you're dark Henry you're talking about yeah yeah Derek Henry the reports that I saw was that

[00:23:43] the price was too steep I didn't see that but Derek Henry came out today and talked to someone who said

[00:23:50] Dallas never even called his reps maybe they're just basing up the number that he ended up getting

[00:23:58] either way that should have been the only phone call they made granted you're gonna make the little

[00:24:03] moves here you're gonna like you know you get it back up see some guy behind back you're gonna make

[00:24:08] those fill out the roster moves for sure well I mean they're their full center their

[00:24:16] full center came across the division you know they're they're running back starting running back

[00:24:23] they did have left you know don't tell you scholars gone you know Doran's Armstrong's gone

[00:24:32] you know I think you you can fill that out with like players that are just on your radar like you

[00:24:38] can every player you're not gonna get a bunch of micro Parsons and Stefan's your doors are free agent

[00:24:45] yeah you just might have to just hold Trayvon digs comes back healthy ready to go start a training camp

[00:24:53] but I think your defense is set your you brought in Mike Zimmer you're gonna get a couple of

[00:24:57] pieces here and there but the big piece that they could have had Derek Henry especially considering

[00:25:05] that everyone does run it back by committee it's like okay I'll give you 18 million I'll get

[00:25:12] another guy and I pay him 1.2 million for the next couple of years so I'm I mean I'm in my

[00:25:17] court my running back position for 22 to 25 million dollars because you'll probably have another

[00:25:24] undrafted guy that you get four or five good games out of or you get a good 50 to 60 carry so

[00:25:30] out the season maybe get a touchdown or two so I just that could have been handled better considering

[00:25:38] that we saw that that was a need publicly everyone saw that was a need everyone felt like he

[00:25:45] would fit perfectly and not to make that move uh a lot of other moves as far as like them just kind

[00:25:54] of being quiet it's just it's just it's the Dallas Cowboy Jerry Jones circus of we're going all in

[00:26:05] that was not important post losing that playoff game I know everybody is emotional but it feels as if

[00:26:13] there's not anyone in the building that's telling the other people in the building like listen

[00:26:20] to what maybe we should just shut up maybe we shouldn't be on every radio show maybe we shouldn't

[00:26:26] make these proclamations these declarations every single time there's a microphone in my face

[00:26:30] sometimes you can just talk you can talk about how proud you are the team you can talk about hey

[00:26:37] I really I really like the culture we're building here yeah we came up short but I really like

[00:26:43] what we have going here obviously you want more success if you look at organizations like the

[00:26:48] chiefs and the ravers and like just have a real conversation about football versus a conversation

[00:26:55] about the loses of grandeur because that's that's the part that's catching them off guard like

[00:26:59] out we talked about this shot after the hot box a song about his Dallas have have a winning culture

[00:27:04] I think they do the problem is they equate their winning in a inflate their expectations

[00:27:12] to the point where they're like they make these proclamations about their expectations everyone

[00:27:17] comes into the season if you think you have good enough team to win 10 11 12 games then you feel

[00:27:23] like you know what Jesse Jackson right there the proclamation of the estimation of the emancipation

[00:27:29] let's say a more worthy guy can't help it but you you feel like like okay Kansas City Miami Buffalo

[00:27:35] Baltimore next year Cincinnati the 49ers the charges probably feel like they could turn around

[00:27:43] Houston probably feels like yeah we can get another 10 or 11 Eagles fight like so eight to 12 teams

[00:27:50] coming to the season think like oh I think we are in position to get double digit wins

[00:27:54] winner division and be count our sins I hope you feel that way but you got like you got to build

[00:28:01] double minimum you gotta build a believe hey rondale more for like a box of churches chicken once again

[00:28:07] like a lot of these pieces are moving and I think the Dallas the the expectations that they that

[00:28:13] they put out publicly everyone like every real team I mean maybe the jets don't because they know

[00:28:20] they're kind of perpetually in his rebuild uh new wingless probably think like okay we're definitely

[00:28:26] in a rebuild but we saw what Houston just did if we can we can catch you know lightning in the bottle

[00:28:33] but for the most part like I said it's like eight to 12 teams that think like we got a real shot

[00:28:37] other team like yeah we got an opportunity to build something here maybe we could do with Houston

[00:28:42] so it's like there's a lot of these different economies that these that these teams have

[00:28:46] Dallas just comes out and this the owner the owner says it um one of the the players that's

[00:28:55] you know essentially quote unquote unproven he'll come out and say something you know it's just

[00:29:01] it didn't move don't match always that's the moves don't match the expectations and I think

[00:29:06] that's the biggest problem I still think that sounds a team I think they could probably still

[00:29:10] win NFC East even though it hasn't happened yeah as far as back to back back to back hadn't

[00:29:20] happened like a couple of decades but they wanted to out of last three years I think they can be right

[00:29:25] there in the running is just they have to manage their personalities as far as how they express

[00:29:34] respect I think the problem is is that it was one thing when San Francisco or Philly within your way

[00:29:44] you know now you have San Francisco and Philly and Detroit Jordan love came in your house

[00:29:51] and put the Molly walk on you you know Atlanta you know even though they haven't played a game yet

[00:29:58] Atlanta's getting better as far as personnel you know at least offensively

[00:30:03] Tampa reupt with Mike Evans when we didn't think they would and they they're bringing bigger may feel

[00:30:08] back and we've seen that they built some chemistry over the course of this season that's 12

[00:30:14] that's 12 to 14 touchdowns you know yeah you got um we'll see what Washington does that quarterback

[00:30:20] but Washington's looking competent in the front office for for like you know for the time being

[00:30:26] we'll see how it ends up for right now they're looking better than they have and they're making

[00:30:31] they're making solid rebuild moves and it feels like a lot of teams are in position either through

[00:30:38] the the moves that they made or their draft position that kind of put a good product product on

[00:30:45] I mean you know even Chicago winning got Kenan Allen and DeAndre Swift yeah and Kenan Allen happened

[00:30:52] like 30 20 30 minutes ago yeah and you know so that's where for me for a fourth round or by the way

[00:30:59] when I look at the cowboys they have top-end talent in some positions they have that press caught

[00:31:07] you know they have Micah Parsons you know they have CD lamb Brandon Cook is a walk in thousand yard

[00:31:14] receiver the Marcus Lawrence but does Dallas have the required depth that they need you know and

[00:31:25] the answer to that question could be like you said there's going to be players out there that fill

[00:31:30] out the roster but that's kind of the problem is that you're waiting until everyone else around you

[00:31:37] gets better and you're taking what's left and then when it doesn't work you're gonna say why can't we

[00:31:43] get over the hump and it's like Philly just alone winning got you know Bryce Huff

[00:31:51] they you know they they winning got St. Quon Barkley right you gotta get

[00:31:56] St. Quon Barkley I was thinking that was like I've been like I said I've been posting in the groups

[00:32:01] all week if you jeans keep jerking these guys around with these contracts simply because you have

[00:32:10] the leverage and the contract when it was someone that chicken comes to roost and you jerk them

[00:32:17] around again they're going in division and oh by the way and you got to see him twice a year for

[00:32:24] the next two or three years whatever length of this contract is but they they are going to get

[00:32:28] they're going to get that petty deal and Philly probably could have got St. Quon for 32 million

[00:32:35] but they're like you know what let's make it 37 make it sweeter so not only be going to pay you

[00:32:40] more to your other team now you gotta see him twice and oh by the way as long as this these allegations

[00:32:50] don't turn back the wrong way he won his 60 million

[00:32:58] and from what I've been hearing about the cap like I said not a capologist they could extend

[00:33:06] deck right now and his cap hit for this year will come down but if they don't extend them

[00:33:13] the cap hits sits at like 59 million but if I'm but if I'm deck I also remember how contentious it

[00:33:24] was last time it was time for me to get paid yeah but the thing is now they don't have any leverage

[00:33:30] they can't franchise them they hit no trade clause they simply have to cut them or pay them so

[00:33:39] basically Jerry Jones is like deck look take this right now this extension we're going to go get

[00:33:49] you some pieces XYZ whatever blah blah blah we're going to fix the defense and that is going to go

[00:33:54] fuck you pain you okay I reloaded you know that's basically what's going to happen and Dallas is

[00:34:02] going to be bent over when they could have because they're going to have to pay them either way

[00:34:10] they're not starting trade lands they're not drafting JJ McCarthy so you're going to have to pay him

[00:34:19] and you still got to find a way to maneuver the cap around to get those pre-requisite parts that

[00:34:26] you're talking about to compete so so that's where like for me it's not even about making a splash

[00:34:34] it's not about hey let's go out here and get dirt Henry even though they should have it's not

[00:34:39] even about that it's about there's been three days that have passed by now and all you've done is

[00:34:46] feel an older dude from San Francisco so you feel good about yourself and that's because and

[00:34:52] that's certainly strictly because the defensive court had nothing to do with like the front office

[00:34:56] he just right right yeah yeah so so now you're at the point of buildings getting better around you

[00:35:04] you still not worried about the giants just yet but maybe Washington can beat you once

[00:35:12] and that could be the difference between you hosting a playoff game or not you know

[00:35:17] Washington's going to be in a position where because they're drafting second

[00:35:25] they're going to get their quarterback one of these top prospects slipped to like

[00:35:34] 17 18 20 now they take pick number 34 now they have seven picks in the top 100 after

[00:35:42] the same hall treat now they flip it and get 34 and they get back into the first round and now

[00:35:49] they've added pieces and they've they've done things because they have leverage where

[00:35:55] sometimes I get like sometimes sitting standing pat is a good idea and other times it's like

[00:36:02] you might have to be aggressive what we have to match the the energy of the of your competitors

[00:36:10] to ensure that you stay ahead of the curve. Well Washington has two things that a young quarterback

[00:36:16] requires to be successful they have the receiver that catches everything and they have

[00:36:23] the red zone machine at running back with with the Austin Eccler pickup so nobody saying

[00:36:30] that Washington's going to go 10 and 7 we're not saying Washington's going to go 11 and 6 but what I

[00:36:36] am saying is that they're good enough to catch you napping with which will put your own road.

[00:36:42] They're feeling their optimism like right that that momentum train they're putting colds in it

[00:36:48] right Dallas you have three seasons of 12 wins people should be fighting to come to Dallas

[00:36:56] you should be taking meetings to get the best players to come to Dallas because you have 36

[00:37:02] was over the last few years amidst all the drama that's you know encapsulated with the Dallas Cowboys

[00:37:09] and you still managed to win this is where it like a conversation with Los Angeles about

[00:37:16] Khalil Mac I know he's going to live long in a tooth but so is your quarterback. Now you're

[00:37:20] going to be in a position where you're going to have to go cheap in a couple of years anyway

[00:37:27] your minds will go real all in with this money and then spread it out and that's the whole

[00:37:33] whole thing is going to have to go cheap. That's the overall problem you couldn't stop Jordan love

[00:37:39] from coming into your place where you were undefeated at home and putting his feet up on the

[00:37:45] couch taking over your shit you know what I'm saying. You know sad drinking sodas and everything

[00:37:53] you know saying like while he's sitting up here coming to the house and doing this

[00:37:57] you couldn't stop him. Dack through some picks including the you know like it was just awful

[00:38:04] so you can't stand pat because you thought you know we won the division we won 12 games again

[00:38:12] you know Tony Pollard is here let's go get to the NFC championship game

[00:38:18] and we talked about getting out with the first two days ago the Rams did it. We see

[00:38:24] we seen the Rams do it they went all in vom Miller they paid Aaron Donnelly back him to come

[00:38:31] back from retirement. Jalen Rams the old Del Capricore. They traded for Jalen Rams they signed

[00:38:35] Oda back him and they won a Super Bowl yes it was a one possession game but they went they really

[00:38:40] went all in but then it fell off a little bit. Stafford got hurt you had a bad year.

[00:38:45] Come back you get pooping the cool it Cooper Cup misses a few games the guy gets comfortable and

[00:38:51] you come back and the Rams are gonna play us again so just Dallas I think they're afraid of

[00:38:59] not looking like the prize fighter headed into the ring but at some point you got to throw

[00:39:08] it over hand. You can't just keep jabbing and looking good like Anthony Joshua he talked about

[00:39:12] we used a box of reference Anthony Joshua looks like a guy who should never lose

[00:39:17] hand-to-hand combat or deal ever nothing about him says this guy loses fights

[00:39:24] six foot five two hundred something pounds no body fat just shoulders biceps and big hands

[00:39:29] you should never lose a fight but you're in there passive and what he did with Nagano

[00:39:35] I'm throwing his overhand right I'm throwing his tree I'm throwing his right hand because if it connects

[00:39:41] and that's what in that analogy is because that's what Dallas did they feasted on a whole lot of

[00:39:46] Washington a whole lot of giants you know the main loss to Miami got smashed by Buffalo like this is

[00:39:55] what they do you know so you have to do something that the way that the season ended I think you

[00:40:03] have to send a message that it was unacceptable not saying like I said not saying that you gotta go

[00:40:08] out here and get every star to make a splash or anything like that but now if you don't feel you

[00:40:15] have a winning culture now's the time to go get like a Bobby Wagner you know like Washington did

[00:40:23] it doesn't have to be something crazy or just all you need to change your fortunes that's all

[00:40:32] since a daddy lost as Super Bowl to the Rams but every year since to include this next coming

[00:40:39] year they're going to be in the position or preseason probably top six or seven they were even

[00:40:48] gonna cut Joe mixin until until the Texans came through yeah so it's like you gotta make these moves

[00:40:55] but you just need that one good gear mm-hmm the Trey had one good year they kept Grebe out of the playoffs

[00:41:01] they end up getting airing Roger ship out of the out of the division following year they win

[00:41:07] the division and now they're in an in- if you champion your game but decision here decision there

[00:41:11] kick here kick there there in a Super Bowl but you gotta build you gotta be willing to potentially

[00:41:18] go 98 you gotta be willing to be right up against the cap he can't treat every aspect of the team

[00:41:26] as a reflection of him as a brother personally the Eli Manning has showed us that you can go from

[00:41:32] mid to 60 real quick you know wants to play off start wants to play off start you just gotta do it

[00:41:37] like Jerry Jones I think he's too concerned with winning like you're concerned with winning negotiations

[00:41:46] with your own players like it's you're negotiating with some other company to take them over

[00:41:56] and he like he feels like got it got me another one well yeah you just

[00:42:00] lowballed a player now he's gonna want to leave or another free agent doesn't want to go there

[00:42:06] because they see they saw how you treated that people saw how you treated that with those

[00:42:12] negotiations the same thing happened with the Ravens those converse issues we had last year was

[00:42:16] like you know you can't keep dangling this guy around because it's gonna adversely affect

[00:42:21] other people because like yeah if you do this to the franchise quarterback we're gonna do

[00:42:26] to me so like you know what Patrick Queen I'm going to Pittsburgh give me this 51 million

[00:42:31] I'm not even gonna deal with you I'm not gonna get jerked around I can get franchise tag I'm not gonna

[00:42:35] be you know put out in public because that's what Jerry does it's like you don't have to win

[00:42:42] the non-football stuff for your team to be successful and I think I think that gets in the way

[00:42:49] more than anything else but here we are right brackets on Sunday I'm watching the ACC

[00:42:57] tournament right now you're watching the NBA right now and we're talking about a league that

[00:43:03] doesn't even have an active game going on right now in a team that everybody talks about and

[00:43:09] it's not even it doesn't even fit the concept of our show because we talked about how we didn't

[00:43:15] like how every show talked about the Cowboys all the time but right now it fits it shows how

[00:43:22] it shows how football is king so anyone who keeps screaming old NFL is rigged and doing this

[00:43:26] in light for what what did it but we're not even watching games right now I mean we were googling

[00:43:33] Keenan Allen 4th round trades 45 minutes ago it's 1115 I gotta go to work in the morning but

[00:43:41] yeah we are up talking about that's like that's like so when people say it's rigged as a crit

[00:43:49] we're locked in I'm not locked in because the results of a game here game there or flag here or flag

[00:43:54] there I'm locked in because hold listen it's a very entertaining league it's short you could be

[00:44:00] in and out and hot and done very quickly so I like that support that that yeah it's the one

[00:44:06] league it's the one professionally that has it right you know the NBA with the 82 games

[00:44:13] baseball 162 hockey's 82 it's the one league that and then it spread out where the games are

[00:44:22] a week apart you know whereas obviously like if you didn't catch tonight's

[00:44:27] Boston Celtic game they probably played tomorrow or the day after you know you didn't catch the

[00:44:32] Lakers they'll be on TV tomorrow because somebody's going to be talking about them you know where's

[00:44:38] in the NFL they built that anticipation like I love you but I'mma just take a break and go outside

[00:44:46] for a second for you know for few days or whatever you know saying and I'mma come back in here

[00:44:54] and we're gonna pick up right where we left off and then wait wait oh get Amazon you can see me

[00:45:00] on Thursday yeah we had like getting Amazon so like now we back on Thursday yeah we had that time

[00:45:06] apart people were out here you know hashtag boycott peacock because people were out here paying for

[00:45:13] peacock just to watch the Kansas City Chiefs playing weather that's getting people amputated right

[00:45:18] now literally people losing their limbs watch the football game then you got Amazon just paid

[00:45:24] $125 million to exclusively play a playoff game next season so you know the NFL just does everything

[00:45:33] right and the crazy part about it is it's domestic you know because the NBA has the global thing going

[00:45:39] on how it reach Yao Ming came through and brought China into the fold you know we have Luca

[00:45:46] Yokech Yanesh Mb so on so forth even SGAs Canadian you know like you got these so you've got

[00:45:54] the foreign concepts going on but the NFL is still at the top of the mountain you know because

[00:46:01] they don't overdo it they provide a product and we go to it whereas the NBA is always trying

[00:46:09] to persuade us that we should check out their product while not like me why don't you like me why

[00:46:14] don't you like me yeah while not like can't y'all see that he's the rat version of TD Jakes you know

[00:46:20] it's saying that's what they're doing up here yo when when the NFL was playing games on Christmas day

[00:46:28] I know Adam Silver and NBA execs for like you mother I didn't watch a single I didn't watch

[00:46:36] a single basketball game that I watched for more or they it was five I think it was like four or five

[00:46:40] NBA you know I know we moved in technology and everything but remote still have a last channel

[00:46:46] button you know they're like you know you got a laptop so like people like me had the NBA on the

[00:46:52] laptop and they put it all up man I was wrapping gifts all Christmas Eve I was drinking all day

[00:46:58] Christmas so I couldn't focus on the words that was it so not that we don't you know I don't

[00:47:07] know I'm grown I'm grown you see that you see that I'm grown I do what I want but yeah so

[00:47:15] I think that's a key and on top of that the NFL yes the NBA does have

[00:47:21] the you lose a player your season could be over but you can lose a player in the NBA you can

[00:47:28] lose a guy for a month like NBA is probably gonna be at this point I think we're probably pushing

[00:47:34] four weeks if we if we're by right and they're not getting to the play so now they're in the

[00:47:39] plan if Joe Burrill Joe Burrill must have any game last year Jake Brown had to four or five it was

[00:47:47] yeah it was probably close to the six but yeah as soon as this as this hangout heard it was like okay

[00:47:52] this will change his or a wrap so all of these all season moves who's gonna drive Caleb Williams

[00:48:00] who's gonna jump to get JJ McCarthy is he gonna go to New England all right is Atlanta gonna

[00:48:06] go greatest show on turf and get Nooma Dunesay uh Ruma Dunesay at eight where it's the first

[00:48:11] defense player gonna come off is this team gonna do this is Kansas City gonna draft that kid

[00:48:16] they're in a four two one entry in like the new tie wreak all of these things all like make sense

[00:48:23] because every single person in an NFL team other than having two quarterbacks makes sense because

[00:48:30] the NFL you have hope like like looking at the NBA right now right now just just in this moment in time

[00:48:36] that we're having this conversation we got at least as far as two five goes we got Denver we got

[00:48:44] Boston I would like to trust Milwaukee but they got Glenn as their coach so I don't know that in

[00:48:51] there but talent wise yeah talent wise they're right there um I want to see Minnesota and okay see

[00:48:58] but I don't think either one of them are like ready yet but they are at the but they're at the top

[00:49:04] they are at the top but but Memphis was last year too you know then you got KD of course you

[00:49:11] know you got the clippers that we can watch but nobody's buying the hype you know where's like

[00:49:17] literally as we sit here right now in the NFL the jets even the jets are like we're getting

[00:49:22] there in Roger's back you know like as you go around the league the top cuz got Kirk cousins

[00:49:28] and maybe add a wide receiver daddy they're scoring 30 points a game in their winning games 30 to 27

[00:49:33] and see us saying we got Tony Pollard and Calvin Ridley we saw what CJ Stroud did last year

[00:49:39] why got young we got a young big arm quarterback you know every every team within a reason like I

[00:49:45] said eight to twelve teams can pretty much lock themselves in to realistically believe in

[00:49:52] that they can win 10-11 games off the rip right you didn't baseball like there's probably a limited

[00:49:59] four to five in baseball baseball season is going to start probably into this month

[00:50:05] yes starts going to 28 28 there's gonna be teams that are completely out of it July 1st

[00:50:14] they have no shot because in baseball at least but in baseball at least when you're out of it

[00:50:19] you go raid somebody's farm system yeah but what I'm saying is like you can you could come into

[00:50:25] this season the optimism and the baseball and then by July 1st you're out NFL as long as your

[00:50:31] team is healthy you got a shot because if you think about San Francisco they were five and no

[00:50:37] they lost three games in a row five and three so now their next game if you don't win that game

[00:50:44] you're five and four you're you're teetering but even after three game losing streak they want another

[00:50:50] five game win streak you know so it's like that that that doesn't really happen in baseball in

[00:50:56] basketball the same way you're just you pretty much just you're Detroit you lose eight in a row

[00:51:03] then it's nine then it's 14 you watch it till you lose five it's five out of six games

[00:51:09] you want to come to eliminate it from the playoffs baby and then now you're 30-40 games under

[00:51:14] 500 and you've only played 47 games you know it's just you're just you're just out of it so early in

[00:51:22] the season but NFL Chicago people probably thought Chicago was gonna end up with the number one

[00:51:30] pick from Carolina and what you know to look you know what you know what a you know what Carolina

[00:51:34] was gonna look like they were gonna look like the team that's gonna be the worst team really because

[00:51:39] we saw it from the gate like okay you don't have the pieces you need other teams got the

[00:51:44] owners in the embassy owner has no idea what he's doing the the Broncos when they gave up 70 to my

[00:51:53] M.E.P. I thought the season was over but then they come back you know granted six to seven weeks

[00:51:58] later and they beat Kansas City by a couple of possessions so it's like all the nine points

[00:52:03] held nine points it probably you know games like that save people's jobs you know you get a bad

[00:52:09] loss like Frank right there you get fired in the middle of season you know so it's just I think

[00:52:13] that's the the hook with the NFL and we'd like to see where these players go we watch them through

[00:52:20] college football we watched Jane Daniels at Arizona State watch Bullen mix at Auburn you watch Sam

[00:52:27] Hartman at Wake Forest you watch them on a Netflix special and then go to college and then

[00:52:32] transfer to Notre Dame and play against USC and you know against Caleb Williams you see all these

[00:52:39] guys you see you know Joey Bolsa Nick Bolsa both go to Ohio State Chase Young Joey Bolsa teammates

[00:52:45] out of state then their team makes us so well so you have a little bit more of an affinity a little

[00:52:50] bit more of a connection with cause for all players because football is king when that transfers over

[00:52:55] to the NFL so I think all that NFL is great talk is unnecessary we're locked in we're locked in from

[00:53:02] high school to the pros yeah where's the where's the NBA you know they're still trying to figure out

[00:53:12] who the Thompson twins are where the cam Whitmore come from because not only did he only go to college

[00:53:18] for one year he missed a lot of that season with injury so now that we're looking at this both

[00:53:24] to see about his and on TV you brought it up briefly Minnesota okay see near the top of the West

[00:53:33] so we see teams like Cleveland in the east right behind Milwaukee and Boston so team wise

[00:53:41] we're witnessing a change of the guard but from a player standpoint is the guard changing because

[00:53:49] the not I mean the non that's my son LeBron LeBron is still the talk of the town the talk of the NBA

[00:53:58] any NBA show that you watch is you can't escape it you know so at this point Jason Tatum

[00:54:07] is in the hot seat of y'all better win the championship this year you know so are we at a place where

[00:54:15] the old guys are fading away and the young guys are taking it by the crown or is it just the old guys

[00:54:24] fading away what I think we're gonna end up getting is that eventually like they're just gonna have

[00:54:31] to do their retirement tours the bronze probably gonna do this next year maybe in two years hopefully

[00:54:40] that depends on how brony would when brony gets to league that doubt that he would want

[00:54:45] brony's first year to be kind of overshadow by his simultaneous swan song or time tour

[00:54:53] but if he's healthy enough to play a couple more years a lot a lot of Tom Brady who won a Super Bowl

[00:54:58] at like 43 44 then you keep you keep going um eventually

[00:55:05] step curry and to go to state warriors and have to retire at number 30 in the raptors he's got to do his

[00:55:09] tour and these guys will come around and we talked about it like yet Tatum's on the hot seat because of

[00:55:16] his ironically because of his past successes that people have kind of quit at the failure like

[00:55:22] being on a team that they've had a lot of turnover yeah keep my he was on a team with Kyrie for a while

[00:55:30] they're on their third coach since he's very coach since he's been there one coach got fired

[00:55:36] and moved up into the building so that should have been like some tension they bring another guy in

[00:55:42] that guy gets into the NBA finals then that coach is allegedly having sex with one of the owners wives

[00:55:48] more turmoil they bring it another guy who's not as polished polished just schematically like

[00:55:57] locked in and they they you know they make them run out of the game he's the conference finals

[00:56:03] almost came back from open almost came back down down on three so it's like

[00:56:08] you have what is term oil and him and jaylen brown just just kept trudging along trudging along

[00:56:12] winning and winning and winning they just ran up against some other guys that they ran up against

[00:56:16] these other old guard guys Lebron put them out one year uh Miami just a good organization they put

[00:56:23] them out uh I think lost the Golden State lost the Golden State so it's like

[00:56:29] there he's not a bunch of first round losses if they have 55 win seasons so I think like say just kind

[00:56:35] of a prisoner and kind of look he like better we're being punished for his early success too

[00:56:40] cool jaylen brown and then with the contract that jaylen brown god and then the

[00:56:47] this success to the team has had but I think they're going to be able this year is probably

[00:56:52] going to be the year that they could potentially win all we'll do predictions and stuff like that

[00:56:57] later I've I like Antman because I like his personality I think he embraces the superstar

[00:57:08] spot like here's a quick question you know you had magic in LA you had Larry bird and ball

[00:57:22] you know even though ballston isn't necessarily the biggest market per se but the Celtics had

[00:57:28] they would be quite market yeah yeah and they were the successful team in the league you know besides

[00:57:33] the Lakers MJ came through third biggest city in the country Chicago so with somebody like

[00:57:41] Antman in the world that we live in today is being in Minnesota a detriment to him

[00:57:51] now or or or is it just he's good enough that he'll get the required attention

[00:57:57] if he earns it I don't think the market I don't think the market impacts the viewers

[00:58:06] opportunity to see them it may impact your personal bank account and your personal endeavors

[00:58:14] for instance if you want to do a lot of commercials you're probably not

[00:58:19] a block or or uber or a sprinter ride away from a studio like the guys in LA

[00:58:27] were the players who play in New York you're probably not that close to agents who can connect you

[00:58:34] with TV execs and get you you know spots and TV shows that might impact you but as far as

[00:58:41] like the viewer of the sport of basketball you can see it because we can see it everywhere we can

[00:58:47] see I literally have an iPad up right now are they going to get the attention because we saw

[00:58:51] Denver win the title and it literally never doesn't have any personality it literally turned into

[00:58:57] is LeBron about to retire yeah pick a pick a guy on Denver that you want to hang out with

[00:59:03] that that the gym I would I would go and you would chill with Aaron Gorn you probably smoke

[00:59:12] cigar sips and whiskey in a quiet room wearing like a smokers jacket you're not partying with him

[00:59:19] like it looks like a guy like he looks like he's having a lot of fun on the floor

[00:59:23] sure John Maranson Memphis we followed John Marant all last season Grand A was for negative reasons

[00:59:30] but we literally followed him they talked about him all the time so I don't think the market

[00:59:37] is far like the viewer we can see it like I said the only thing that really impacts is your

[00:59:44] personal opportunity personal banking opportunities like Eli Manning playing all those years

[00:59:51] New York giant it just made it easy because it's a little bit more global with that city but

[00:59:58] I don't really think it's I don't think it's hurting it I think all it is really you're hurting them is

[01:00:01] that we want we want to keep continue to highlight the heroes and we only talk about stuff we only

[01:00:11] talk about Katie we only talk about LeBron I mean we talked about our group chat anytime I look down on

[01:00:16] this 59 messages and I just checked it I because I was at work the other day though we were eating at

[01:00:24] one at the lunch I checked it put my phone down ordered the food looked about the TV had a

[01:00:30] conversation look down it was 60 messages look back up 70 messages look back up they got the 99

[01:00:36] and stopped like it didn't go higher than that but there's still people it was just keep flashing 99

[01:00:41] so it was 99 messages and I'm like this has to be a LeBron conversation because that's

[01:00:46] that's what that's that drives our our talking needle but if you think about the other shows

[01:00:53] the shows on TV they talk about Denver a lot they just those guys don't have like the great marketable

[01:01:00] personalities I don't think the city location and the confines of the country holds it back

[01:01:05] I just think like a lot of guys just don't have that marketability okay that's fair so I was looking at

[01:01:13] and I was trying to figure this out because you know back when Jordan was running around you know

[01:01:18] Magic and Bird were doing their thing we had this next guy in the chamber he came up and lived

[01:01:25] up to the expectation you know but even with Jordan you know you had your David Robinson's

[01:01:30] your Elijah Wands Clyde Drexler's even to a lesser degree you had like run TMC you know you had

[01:01:39] you know Isaiah Thomas running around then LeBron came along you know you still had mellow

[01:01:45] the Wayne Wade you know you had another gang of players that were coming with them

[01:01:51] so when I look around the league now the league is deeper as far as talent we talked about the

[01:01:57] evolution a little while ago about plow players this player is that player so on and so forth

[01:02:03] so you got what you got you know Yannis is I believe gonna hit 30 either this year or early next

[01:02:11] year you got Jason Tatum who's still 26 27ish yeah so Lucas pretty young you got Anthony Edwards

[01:02:21] in SGA but I don't know if like the league is so deep I don't know if there's that standout

[01:02:31] quality in the same way because there's so many good players so it as the guard is changing

[01:02:40] is it basically Tatum and Luca until further notice?

[01:02:46] Nah I don't think so I think that because we've had I think the exposure

[01:02:54] like for Jordan Jordan was a world icon out of Chicago

[01:03:04] has there been another player from the city of Chicago that is reconsidering themselves a world icon

[01:03:13] I don't think so I think he just him as an individual player

[01:03:17] as an individual player I think he just he just resonated with people be like Mike

[01:03:27] so if you have all these players in Dominique like I said the league was like growing then now

[01:03:34] that the league is like so global that I think these guys are good brands I think the connection

[01:03:41] to fashion unless a big deal a lot of these guys are really in the fashion scene so that kind

[01:03:46] of branches them out you'll see a lot of guys in fashion week in New York or they'll be in Paris

[01:03:52] or like the walking up the tunnel so I think that connects people to the team

[01:04:00] I just feel like we think about the legends that we've had through basketball and we're comparing

[01:04:10] like these guys in their early stages of careers to the legendary status that these other guys

[01:04:18] are watching yeah so Larry Burr we've probably been seeing it all of the social media

[01:04:25] that Dreymont Green hit more threes in Larry Burr but when Larry Burr was shooting those threes

[01:04:32] everyone felt iconic like the three point contest when he shot and let the ball go and play his

[01:04:37] finger in the air when he kept the jacket on kept the jacket on at his finger in the air Dreymont

[01:04:43] doesn't have that moment granny he has 650 you know he has more threes in him but Larry Burr has

[01:04:50] that iconic moment same thing with like a guy like Rachel Miller he also has like the average like 19

[01:04:55] two Rachel Miller only average like 19 points for his career but the choke symbol to spike in the garden

[01:05:04] granny he never won a championship those things just iconic size what we think about now

[01:05:10] these young guys are gonna get their opportunity they just got to just stay at a course and teams have

[01:05:17] to stay the course teams can't panic don't fire your coach if you don't win a championship everybody

[01:05:23] can win the championship no listen to him Boston

[01:05:28] until you get to the point where maybe you need a change I'm not I didn't say everybody has

[01:05:33] applied that but like everyone can't just be like oh we didn't win we got a fired coach

[01:05:38] it's not that's not a problem everybody has this game looks sloppy uh so

[01:05:45] Virginia and Boston college going into overtime by the way you know Virginia that's all that's in

[01:05:51] the last four ends of Boston college could get them out of here that gets cream out of the

[01:05:56] little jibbar a little bit closer but uh but I was thinking about it the other day because you

[01:06:02] know as we look at this um I don't see and I know I know Mike I know Denver doesn't have a bench

[01:06:11] you know but I don't see anybody in the west at this moment that I would pick in a series over

[01:06:19] Denver um I do think that okay see would give them the biggest trouble from a match-up standpoint but

[01:06:27] they don't have the experience you know and especially if they finish one two they wouldn't even

[01:06:33] play until the western conference finals so they've played four times this season okay see is three

[01:06:41] and one against Denver but to do that SGA had to have a 40 point game one time and uh there was a

[01:06:51] game where he scored 11 points in the last six minutes you know and but when Denver was whole

[01:06:58] and had all of their players they had a 30 point lead on okay see so there's that you know um Dallas

[01:07:07] Mike thinks it's the Mavericks that has the best chance to be uh Denver um I get the thought behind

[01:07:13] it you know I can see where you're going with it but I don't see it I don't know I don't know if

[01:07:22] I trust Jason Jason kid enough to I don't see it because I don't see I don't see the guy

[01:07:31] that impacts Yolkage should a point where he has to switch up what he does I think Yolkage can

[01:07:44] simply walk into any game because Dallas and go 28 11 and 11 and see and we're we're I think

[01:07:52] they can play I don't think there anyone like the defensive I don't know if any the guy he's like

[01:07:58] what guys are gonna have to guard that's gonna make him work well that's what I was gonna say

[01:08:02] okay see when they play okay see Jamal Mary just cannot defend SGA and you can't necessarily put

[01:08:13] them on jail and Williams because jail and Williams is just gonna booze them physically but on but

[01:08:18] then you pull Yolkage out because home grind can play on the perimeter so I can go on and guard

[01:08:25] in Yolkage can you know he don't got to I'm talking about the other side of all the

[01:08:28] stand like yeah yeah yeah he's gonna pull Yolkage away from the rebounding position you know a lot

[01:08:34] of times if that you know you can set up your game plan to where you keep home groom more

[01:08:41] you know on the perimeter and yeah but does he get two files in the first quarter trying to guard

[01:08:46] Yolkage in the past it could happen that very well could happen you know that's the Chico because

[01:08:52] I think Luca Luca's gonna get people involved but I think it might be one of situations like

[01:08:59] we talked about it before let Luca do his thing and let everybody else stand around to watch

[01:09:06] I mean I love Kari I mean that's the game brand for you too but he just doesn't play along

[01:09:13] you know yeah we talk about certain players like you know we talk about people like CP3

[01:09:22] LeBron Steve Nash when he was still playing we want to see these guys score 30 points because they're

[01:09:32] not getting everybody else involved and Miami tried that for a game and it worked to some degree

[01:09:37] against Yolkage in the finals yeah you know where he'll be like three or four this yeah yeah so

[01:09:44] that's the way to do it but Yolkage just doesn't necessarily take the big but he didn't do it

[01:09:50] for the entire series like he right right he adjusted like okay let me let me go back to 27 points

[01:09:58] 11 and 11 let me get to the paint

[01:10:05] based off like yeah these guys are gonna be able to shoot but if they're not

[01:10:10] knocking down three years my problem is is that you got a guy like Aaron Gordon who

[01:10:16] is like your Swiss Army knife on defense you could put him on anybody pretty much and he can hold it

[01:10:23] down you know Gaffords obviously doing this thing right now you know with I haven't watched their

[01:10:30] game tonight or if they played tonight I know he's getting close to breaking Will's record for watching the

[01:10:35] night but it's it's on it's on mute so I don't know if he did break that record but

[01:10:40] but I do like the PJ Washington pickup but like you were talking about earlier the whole

[01:10:52] chemistry part of it you know as good as Dallas as talented as Dallas is with PJ Washington and

[01:11:02] Gafford do they have that chemistry when we're talking about a playoff series you know

[01:11:09] and that's my question about them yeah you gotta play them you gotta play a lot of games they're

[01:11:14] gonna figure it out and ultimately is like I don't think Dallas has anyone defensively that can

[01:11:20] stop Jamal and Murray if he wants to go for 30 so Aaron Gordon just plays Aaron Gordon just does

[01:11:28] everything he needs he has great chemistry with you because you literally with the Serbia hung

[01:11:32] out one of my races horses for like vacation last summer after they won a championship and he

[01:11:37] just always seems to be in position where he's looking for Aaron for the lob because if you can get

[01:11:43] 12 14 16 points out of him that aren't expected now you gotta adjust to that so now you got Jamal Murray

[01:11:52] I will say I will say I don't like the fact that they don't have Bruce Brown this year um I think that

[01:12:00] if it if Denver does lose that's probably part of the reason why but also for your Kyrie

[01:12:07] comment you know they do still have Kcp as well so they have someone that can harass them

[01:12:15] and and they can outscore Denver but Denver can get stops as well as much as for Dallas can't send

[01:12:25] I don't think there's a player that Dallas can send out defensively when it's time to get a stop

[01:12:32] I don't think they have that play on the roster that they can put on either Jamal Murray or Yoke

[01:12:40] and uh you know the game is 109 to 104 and you gotta get a stop

[01:12:48] and then Yoke just comes down and gets a layup and what's for the junior gets high

[01:12:52] you know like who's who's going to guard for the junior if he gets high so

[01:12:56] and he's got and he's got like it's it's it's it's part of the

[01:13:00] thing that I do think that I am concerned about Denver's ditch some what but also in the playoffs

[01:13:07] your rotation shortens too yeah eight dudes running yeah so I don't know if it could bite them

[01:13:14] for a game or two you know what I mean but I don't know if it's gonna bite them I don't know

[01:13:19] if it's gonna bite them to where you don't bite them four times yeah that's the thing best out of five

[01:13:26] yeah that's out of five you're talking best out of seven I don't think so yeah four times

[01:13:32] but as far so so like okay so so like Boston you know let's say they finished this off

[01:13:39] they win the title this year um so I guess that puts Tatum as like the new leader

[01:13:46] of the NBA for the time being because he's the one that's gonna be on top

[01:13:51] you know um at what point

[01:13:59] as good as SGA is as good as we think Anthony Edwards is in will be

[01:14:07] do we think they can be good enough to put together back-to-back championships three

[01:14:13] peats things of that level because I do think that Denver is good enough to do that right now

[01:14:19] I think that if Boston wins they're good enough to do that with the roster that they have

[01:14:25] the only problem with Boston is they've been in the Eastern Conference Finals of the finals

[01:14:30] all of like the last seven years so you would figure eventually that snaps you know hopefully not

[01:14:36] literally on one of their players but that's gonna snap at some point yeah but that's the thing

[01:14:41] I don't know if that's the case if I'm if we're in a fist fight and every time we fight

[01:14:48] I get the better best of you it might not always be I'm knocking you out but I'm like every time

[01:14:53] you come to fight me I walk away victorious you can't be like hey man at some point it's to stop

[01:15:00] because there's no evidence support that is just gonna stop like you can just keep fighting me

[01:15:04] well we have the we have evidence over the course of NBA history that teams just don't generally

[01:15:10] do this like you know like you like you have your teams like the pistons who made I think it was

[01:15:18] like five Eastern Conference Finals in a row they lost the Boston a couple times beat the bulls

[01:15:23] a couple times lost to the bulls and then they didn't come back you know we had LeBron do

[01:15:30] Detroit when Detroit lost two that Cavaliers team 0607 they disbanded a team after that so

[01:15:38] they had a long run but like yeah it does fade but they were older they weren't and they were

[01:15:44] decreasing the same team of Tay Sean Benwala Sean C. Billips rip it just was the same group of

[01:15:51] guys that got older every year the Boston run started with a couple of 21-year-old

[01:16:00] Tatum I think Tatum was like 20 when he got drafted 20 years by the time you're 31 32 they might

[01:16:05] start developing koanese yeah but like that's a that's a long time from even now that's still four

[01:16:10] seasons after this one right so they got a win they got a win they're probably going to panic and

[01:16:18] trade something they're they're win differential this year is like they're winning games by average

[01:16:23] 11 points they've had three 50 point wins 50 point wins this year I watched the game tonight they

[01:16:29] went like 26 for 50 from three so in everyone shoots it confidently from housing to Williams to

[01:16:38] Pritzard to Al Hoarford it seems like that chemistry does matter because they that extra pass

[01:16:46] and then extra pass and then maybe the cut to the lane instead of shooting a three

[01:16:52] it's that's the difference between you know a team like Dallas is kind of like makeshift and kind

[01:16:57] of put together and you kind of hope it works because essentially this kairi luca they didn't

[01:17:05] play many games together last year and I'm not seeing much evidence to show that it's really working

[01:17:13] the two of them together I think you're like they need right now you know what I think is functioning

[01:17:18] but I don't know I don't what when it was kairi and lebron when it was kairi and lebron you knew that

[01:17:28] it worked because the other team focused on the bron a kairi just was so dynamic when we got the ball

[01:17:35] in his hand uh you got clay Thompson and and Steph Curry you know that it works because

[01:17:43] they do two totally different things but they can be equally as dominant doing two different things

[01:17:49] it's like a guy that hits a lot of home runs and the guy that bunts it gets on base but they both

[01:17:54] score runs they got bunts he's still second you get a single he scores or the guy who judge

[01:18:00] hits the home run because right now pj washington's one for eight gonte xm's two for eight

[01:18:07] did you run out the building that happens against Dallas I mean I'm a good Denver

[01:18:11] I'm watching like I said watch some game right now they're battling they're battling the okay see the

[01:18:15] scores 86 84 but it nothing about it looks fluid it doesn't look it doesn't look like

[01:18:24] it doesn't look like a well oiled machine yeah it just doesn't look like it looks like a collection

[01:18:31] of good basketball players it doesn't always look like a team yeah because right now on the floor

[01:18:36] you got Dante xm with kai re and they're running like pick and roll and they just everyone's falling

[01:18:44] but it's just it just does not look like a game like a well oiled game and okay see it's kind of

[01:18:50] falling to that same trap too but they're at home the role players are hitting threes like the

[01:18:56] maves probably on paper look like they are built for it but like watching them like I said and then

[01:19:03] you know look he kind of sometimes you can dribble the air out of the ball

[01:19:09] well if the playoffs started today talking about the play in and whatnot Dallas would you play in

[01:19:18] Phoenix right now granite we got to see what's going on with uh devin booker because you told me

[01:19:25] that he went down earlier yeah he stepped on a foot but it's angled in roll he just was

[01:19:29] okay so they would play so they would play uh Phoenix right now and then the Lakers and Warriors

[01:19:37] would play in the other play in game but Sacramento is still right there they're only a half a game

[01:19:44] ahead of Phoenix so you know it could get interesting it definitely could get interesting Virginia

[01:19:50] pulls out the win over Boston College so now it looks like I got to watch villain over in Marquette

[01:19:56] because they might go to overtime the madness is here but um you know I think that as far as

[01:20:03] the guard goes we were talking about players that were in that proverbial hot seat so you know

[01:20:11] Jason Tatum in the hot seat now you know let's just say he wins the title this year I would think

[01:20:17] that Lucas next in the chamber you know uh but he doesn't typically get that type of criticism

[01:20:26] but then after Luca I don't know what's next like I don't know who that next

[01:20:33] because Luca may not get the title first of all you know what I mean so by then maybe SGA or

[01:20:39] FD Edwards is ready you know but yeah and and the into to my point like he said

[01:20:46] that was just being built for the series you got me okay yeah this other

[01:20:57] my remote I was like so Dallas is a teen that's kind of put together and this year they're figuring

[01:21:07] it out and if you look at it's like there's a possibility that the guys are on the floor right now

[01:21:14] won't be on the team next year whereas you look at okay see they look like okay this is a young

[01:21:22] team depends on contract situations we'll probably bring a lot of these guys back because they

[01:21:27] they look like valued pieces same thing with Denver they lost the guys because when you

[01:21:32] want a championship there's always going to be a team that comes through and then they overpay

[01:21:36] for one of your free agents and rightfully so you go take advantage of that I don't see

[01:21:44] me I look at like like the Lakers the Lakers look like a team is like they should be deep and they have

[01:21:50] two all world players on the brunt of the day B but when you look at it on the floor

[01:21:56] everyone keeps talking about Darwin ham as rotations well the rotations would look all right if

[01:22:01] when he put them out there they perform if you put RIS DELO RUE AD in the brunt out there

[01:22:09] and they're efficient you know they shoot in 50-55% from the floor they're making good passes

[01:22:15] they're not turned a ball over they're not getting eight O'RONs put on them okay then it looks like

[01:22:20] a great rotation but if you're not down to three point shot consistently somebody could knock

[01:22:26] down a three point shot consistently like that's that's the thing is like it all looks like they're

[01:22:31] built for one thing but the it's more it's more perception than reality the reality of is that

[01:22:42] they are not and it's fine you can have a superstar player and not have a great team around them

[01:22:49] Dallas is an example of that they have a superstar player and Carrie Carrie is obviously a star

[01:22:55] but he is not the the centerpiece superstar of the mavericks and what the team they have built

[01:23:04] around around Luca I don't think it's built for a long run especially one it's hard for people to

[01:23:10] believe in them with Jason kid as their coach like that's part of what it boils down to me you

[01:23:18] know is that like he I don't know if it's philosophy but something just that team shouldn't be the

[01:23:26] 8C like I don't care I mean I know they're all close in the standings and everything but they should

[01:23:33] be a lot closer to four than they are to 10 yeah you know and that's the thing is like

[01:23:40] it's because this unique chemistry you need these pieces to fit together and you need a year where

[01:23:46] you go 40 in 42 like okay see they were like within a 39 and 43 last year you need like that was

[01:23:55] last year you were pissed off at them because they had a chance to potentially make the plan

[01:24:01] is like I don't know how you go like they're having consistently inconsistent years

[01:24:07] I don't know how you have that for all last season all this season and then come April.

[01:24:13] I'm not doing this Mike.

[01:24:19] You know but yeah I uh but um yeah so and that was the other thing that I wanted to talk about real quick

[01:24:26] before we get out of here um you know I was on Cups in the gang earlier hot box and everything

[01:24:31] and you know we were having a conversation because I don't understand why we as fans do these things

[01:24:40] where you know a lot of us complain about who's the new star like you know LeBron's old

[01:24:47] step is old KD's old and he's a cupcake like you know like at some point we need

[01:24:54] to see the next person on the horizon. Some people thought it would be Zion this is his first year

[01:25:00] being healthy you know Jha is out for the year again or you know as far as like for real this time not

[01:25:07] because of his own doing um you know so who's that next star you know you see Jason Tatum

[01:25:15] you know maybe he wins the MVP this year he's not my pick but maybe he wins the MVP this year

[01:25:20] and that starts his revolution if you will but we get on the NBA for not featuring teams

[01:25:31] not featuring new players outside of the norm and then like we got people like Tyree's

[01:25:38] Halibut who was getting a little bit of shine and then now people are denigrating him and it's

[01:25:43] kind of like well we can't have it both ways it can be they're not producing stars but then when

[01:25:50] they try we're going to be like no I'm not him though like somebody else you just gotta I think we

[01:25:58] have to let it play out we were spoiled because from you had the stars of the 80s and then you

[01:26:08] had the early 90s players so they gave give me your like Shaq so that that was your star in that

[01:26:15] window Shaq Grand Hill a lot of great cause basketball Christian Layton or Duke North Carolina

[01:26:21] Kentucky so it's great cause basketball in the early part of the 90s and then you had the 96 draft

[01:26:27] AI Colby Steve Nash Ray Allen those guys carried the torch and then you had the the

[01:26:34] diagnostic runs of the bulls through that hole period of time so you had new blood coming in

[01:26:40] you had the dynasty of the bulls run it concurrently with this new blood coming in and then

[01:26:46] the 90s is over for the bulls Lakers ramp up their dynasty with this new guy Colby

[01:26:51] with the fro so now they go three they get you know they get their three feet and then

[01:26:58] draft the stars then you got yeah you sprinkle the spurs in there Tim Duncan and then you got

[01:27:04] the 2003 draft and those guys carried it for a long time and then you got if he did it just

[01:27:11] it just kept going up until about kairi's draft was that 2011? 2011 and I think this thing

[01:27:20] it's been guys who had drafted between 2008 or 2003 and 2011 those have been our stars

[01:27:27] every just a Steph LeBron mellow Wade all the other guys Bosch they were the guys going to the

[01:27:34] Olympics then you sprinkling some of the guys that were from the 90s that were carried over KG Paul

[01:27:40] Pierce so it just hasn't been a lot of guys post 2012 that's Hoistit trophy that's also been

[01:27:48] you know this iconic team so I mean you had KD but KD was with uh you know like KD was with

[01:27:57] Steph when he got his rings you know and so just now we just these guys are gonna eventually have

[01:28:04] to retire Tatum's gonna have his opportunity this year because I think they have the best team

[01:28:11] to potentially put themselves in position with a championship. Yokech has an opportunity to

[01:28:17] win three of the P's and two finals of the P's so that that's at least another face you know like

[01:28:25] the you know granted dirt was never really a face to the league but his Dallas teams were always

[01:28:30] something to be reckoned with even though as a foreign player they don't really get to that title

[01:28:35] that mythical title face to the league but you know when he was hitting that one foot step back

[01:28:39] and everyone's trying it. Well I think Yon has had an opportunity you know um he got the championship

[01:28:47] but I know a lot of people put the asterisks by because Kevin Durant shoe was too big and

[01:28:54] Kyrie was hurting all this kind of stuff but they went they came through they were down two O in the

[01:28:59] finals they came back in one and they haven't made it back so was it a flash in the pan you know

[01:29:11] that's not me saying that that's not just saying that I think that's the way that some people

[01:29:16] do it because I think because because what we had like I said keep him on NBA from 1980 to 2000

[01:29:26] it was like a handful of teams winning all the championships spurs you sprinting in the sixers

[01:29:32] lakers South Dakota's got a couple the bulls got six Houston got a couple so that 20 year window

[01:29:39] it was like four or five teams winning it all and that those teams had the most famous players

[01:29:47] world famous players on on those teams so we're just getting to the point where it's like

[01:29:52] that doesn't happen a lot yeah like so we had the we had the round with Cleveland and

[01:29:59] they go back to back all those years and it was like okay this is getting kind of old

[01:30:05] so now we're getting to where it should look like it should look like

[01:30:09] teams making moves and making to the finals like Phoenix got Chris Paul went to the finals

[01:30:16] no one would have picked Phoenix to go to the finals with Chris Paul

[01:30:20] because you make these moves and then it just works out get an injury here roll ankle hamstring

[01:30:25] whether the case may be like you you get there and it's like that's what the league should look like

[01:30:30] it shouldn't be the same two teams going to the finals every single year in a salary cap league

[01:30:36] with trades of free agency yeah it's the people are in two good teams I think we're just in that

[01:30:42] moment like we have more to get teams let's just hope it all plays out to where all the good

[01:30:48] teams make their good runs and all the good young stars transition to that that era that we had before

[01:30:55] with Anthony Edwards SGA Yokec and Luca Bagel and I West and then the air fox like hold on

[01:31:04] we just got this rookie out of there's no parody in sports I mean there's always parody at least

[01:31:14] at the very least in the championship baseball you know baseball has a little bit of parody like

[01:31:22] uh I mean who saw the Diamondbacks coming through to make the World Series last year

[01:31:27] I can't see any royals one even the Randy Browns in year with the Diamondbacks you know

[01:31:34] Randy Johnson in Kurt Schilling because baseball you know it comes down to the pitching in the

[01:31:39] postseason so like whoever's got the hot arm usually has a baseball baseball has a real philosophy

[01:31:49] on generating parody the NBA tries to do it with the lottery picks and how many balls you get

[01:31:56] in the top 14 and everything else they try same thing in the field draft they let you

[01:32:02] if you're the worst team you get to pick the best player you get to pick first so there's parody

[01:32:07] just sometimes if you don't keep the quality pieces in place GM head coach quarterback

[01:32:17] whoever your capologist is like these quality pieces in place then your team falls apart and

[01:32:22] you gotta start over just so happens that Cincinnati got the first overall pick got Joe burrow

[01:32:30] he was a fifth he was he had a fifth round grade a year before next year to come out to get

[01:32:34] Joe burrow he gets injured following year people like oh you should get peninsula to protect them

[01:32:39] now begin to march ace he's just you got him you have to make the moves to make your team better

[01:32:45] it's not gonna just fall into your lap and I think a lot of times people thinking it's just like oh

[01:32:51] boom I'm gonna get this one guy that's gonna be it like no you gotta make you gotta make

[01:32:54] that's what I was like that's what the bears but look with the bears they signed

[01:33:01] they signed to run it back they traded for

[01:33:03] they did all the things that they could have did for Justin Fields maybe they still are gonna keep

[01:33:08] them playing your still a lot of people or maybe even if you move Justin Fields maybe you don't

[01:33:13] move before pick maybe you're moving for another plate may you move in for a couple a couple of

[01:33:18] plays of this one we don't want we don't want your second round or your third round draft pick

[01:33:23] we want your tackle we want your you know we want this defensive player we want these two pieces

[01:33:30] of we want a fourth round pick in this guy see what we just did and after all that

[01:33:35] we still talk about the NFL came back to football

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[01:34:16] were sitting out in the first round so yeah my was stuck shot out the shot out the Princeton you know

[01:34:26] I could have printed my bracket on toilet paper we know Sam but yes we love you America

[01:34:31] we will be back you know Sam look out for us cups in the gang aka the hot box you know

[01:34:39] the pursuit of forever with our guy El Residence force forces order biggest move this is dip set out

[01:34:52] peace