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[00:01:39] Yeah! Normally we use to start this thing off and get it off my chest. I'm going to call it a get off my chest anyway. But we got two quarterbacks. That broke the bank. You know, this weekend.

[00:01:54] You know, one up in Green Bay by the name of Jordan Love and the other one down in South Beach by the name of two a turn to a tongue of Ayola. Not turn to ball over. I'll leave that for the regular season.

[00:02:07] I was sitting around right and for the last couple of months. I've been arguing with various people on whether to deserve to be paid or not. And deserve is a very funny word. You know, I will say that it's too as turn.

[00:02:25] And you know, that if it were up to me, if I was the GM. I would have probably done some more negotiating. Like I know that you've been a proponent of giving him the Daniel Jones deal.

[00:02:37] You know, said I was going to give him a little bit more than that. But I was going to give him what he got correct. You know, saying so what was your first reaction when you saw two is contract?

[00:02:50] Well, it was kind of hard to really react to like anything sports related. I was I was out of cancun. And I was saying swim well whale sharks just not really focused on sports. I was thinking about it.

[00:03:03] Like the TV and my room didn't connect to my phone, which is like, I don't need to be any anyway. But I was getting messages from you and I was reading through it. I don't understand first of all, just the overall salary cap.

[00:03:20] How would you house apply to quarterbacks regardless it seems like in spite of performance they are paid. Is like if you worked at any other job and it was 4032 employees and you're consistently rank between 12 and 17.

[00:03:42] Then your expectation to get paid among the top 11 that doesn't make any sense. And I didn't end the failed. There's always work like that. So I'm not going to harp on with my homes when it's super cool you should get paid more. I get that.

[00:03:56] But the guys were getting paid. It's not even like close. It's not like they're they aren't the reason that your team is going to get over the hump.

[00:04:06] You're just hoping that they're not they're like losing them is worse because you don't want to bring somebody else new in. So that's why these contracts feel like you're paying too much for hope. You're paying like guarantee like this person is the guy.

[00:04:26] And I get it's like the turn they turn their turn but when it's the running backs turn, it doesn't happen. When it's the why I was see this turn recently is skyrocketed but I heard a lot of chatter saying that that probably was shift back.

[00:04:40] So I don't want to stand by that given that much money considering that you probably could get. Not you don't get the same performance or another guy, but you had his rights for like a couple more years.

[00:04:55] Franchism making play it out either way he can't go anywhere else because just as much as you are in a data and and connected to him because you drafted him. He's connected you the same way.

[00:05:09] Another team is going to look at him the same way if Minnesota needed to quarterback to sex off season hypothetically. Then that can look at to what is saying way Miami did because Miami drafted him.

[00:05:19] They rather say I rather get my own guy and develop them versus bringing in somebody else's guy for 50 plus million. So I just feel like they gave up these contracts when they really were in a better leverage position. And then the player.

[00:05:33] Well you know it's because you know people have these conversations a lot and they say things like well who they're going to get that better and you know a lot of times.

[00:05:44] You know say it's just what it those things where like you don't always have to get a better quarterback what up to you. You don't always have to give you don't always have to get a better quarterback so like for example right. Looking back at Denver in 2015.

[00:06:01] I'm sure they would have liked a better quarterback than what Peyton Manning was giving them.

[00:06:07] You know now granted they it all worked out. They won the Super Bowl va me learn the defense took over but they could have done a little bit better than that version of Peyton Manning you know when you look at the Rams did they really really have to go get Matthew Stephers.

[00:06:25] I don't think so you know they they had already made a Super Bowl run and a Super Bowl with Jared golf. I don't know if you know that's correct. Just play better you lost 13 to 3.

[00:06:37] Yeah and and you would have been up probably 10 you probably would have been up if McCourt he doesn't make that play in the back of the name.

[00:06:47] Right and Tom Brady was really moving the ball so you you win that Super Bowl if McCourt is a half second later. And that's the thing you know so like as far as two of goes.

[00:07:00] I don't know if Miami can do that turn but I know they could get somebody with a better arm if they go on being on the road into playoffs in the cold weather. You know I know I know that the money that they gave to a.

[00:07:14] You know I think that's the thought is that you get stuck on the topic of quarterback and everybody is just rushing to get the next quarterback. You know so like looking at Jordan love right.

[00:07:30] You know saying like look at Jordan love you know to me like I understand a little bit more I mean Jordan love was drafted to be the franchise quarterback. He sat on the bench for three or four years behind Aaron Rogers.

[00:07:44] So he came out last year didn't throw an interception from like the week before things give in all the way to the 49er game. So so you know to me so in some ways you could argue Jordan love has done some things too as an even done yet.

[00:07:58] You know to me I don't want to go there though because we're just saying it Miss Louis.

[00:08:03] It was just one year you know what I mean so like I don't want to make this big this big grand statement of Jordan love has arrived and all of a sudden like Jordan loves this top five quarterback or whatever the case may be so do you feel.

[00:08:19] Or let me let me okay let me back up out of the two contracts do you feel one is more agree just than the other. I don't so. Agreed this is a tough word. I would say Jordan love is premature.

[00:08:36] Because the first half of the season last year he didn't look like a guy I was going to get paid fifty million dollars. And July of the next year like when you're watching.

[00:08:49] Green Bay in their first eight games you were in thinking like yeah in July these two veterans going to be having a conversation behind this guy's getting paid or fifty million dollars a year. So to have like.

[00:09:01] You know I mean I hot song and then think that you're going to just be one of the greatest ever is it's it's it's just too premature with to a.

[00:09:13] Like they didn't want to give them his contract because I believe they could have extended them last year and he wanted him to prove it.

[00:09:22] And then he proved it by not winning on the road in Buffalo which could have secured their division well that one was at home.

[00:09:32] Oh that one was at home so not winning not winning at home to win the division and then granted going on the road to Kansas City and you're playing in. And then you're going to send a clause back yard I get it was very, very cool but.

[00:09:46] What's your left with is Kenis guy get us over the hump and he had two tests at the end of last season so the last time you know me I like me that's exactly I was literally thinking that when I was like I think we said that before it's I was like I let it slide.

[00:10:05] And then I think that's why I'm going to be talking about with him is can he get us over the home. And his last two tests he hadn't done it.

[00:10:15] The playoff game against Buffalo previous hunter playoffs he didn't play because he was injured so it's just I think you have more questions and they had those questions and that's why it didn't extend in last year. You still have those same questions like it wasn't answered.

[00:10:30] You know, pass rate and pass yards and things that I need you but that's because you're just going to attract him. And this while like I kind of agree with Q's point you know as far as you know Jordan love I mean green bay.

[00:10:43] Okay, how can I warrant this so I don't I don't want to say. They were forced into a corner but to some degree they were from the standpoint of you drafted Jordan love in the first round.

[00:10:55] The other one got pissed off Aaron Rogers was out here winning MVP said everything he had him going nuts and we knew it was the marriage was gonna end at some point.

[00:11:05] He went back to make MVP that he drafted he has he Aaron Jordan loves to thank Aaron Rogers. they close to this date without expending an energy, and then allow him to be, like I said, I'll start my network. The best position to be is the backup quarterback.

[00:11:26] They allow the relationship with Aaron to go public and win sideways and Jordan just kept his head down. He answered all the questions. He did all of right things. They're a young team. And I get it. This pain in him this money now,

[00:11:41] you don't have the old year a young team exception anymore. Because you might have been able to get him to play this year with this young team. Maybe you can make a move at the trade deadline. Maybe you can both of that team at some point

[00:11:56] and make a real rent at the NFC North. But now you pull this money on his lap and now the expectation is gonna just rise so I think that's the problem. Yeah, there's already people out here on TV saying that he's a top five quarterback.

[00:12:14] And to be fair, I mean, he had a lead in San Francisco during the playoffs. Obviously he threw the picks that cost him the game. That happens young quarterback, you know Sam, but like with Tua, I look at it from the standpoint of, hey, we got our weapons.

[00:12:33] You know what I mean? We don't have to add on as far as Tua's party. Obviously they need some defensive help. But we got jail in water, we got Tyre Kill, we got most of it. We got A-Chain, so on and so forth.

[00:12:44] You are that last puzzle piece that should get us over the top. That's the way you're looking at it if you're Miami. But you haven't done anything to prove it, but I know you're my guy. So like you said about Trevor Lawrence,

[00:12:59] you know they made the commitment of, you know, we proposed to you. We promised you we led you on. So now I gotta follow through. Whereas if Green Bay, it's more like, hey, we lost Aaron over you, though. Like even though Aaron Robbs was still on the team

[00:13:16] and hadn't been moved yet, we lost Aaron over you. You know who might be the best quarterback in our franchise this history? You know, we got Matt LaFlor here who is the quarterback whisperer. You know, we've seen, we saw what you did to close out last season

[00:13:31] when people had us dead in the water. So you know what? I've seen enough, you've been in our system, even though you weren't playing, you were here for four years, we've been watching you. You know, I'm sure LaFlor had some input on whether hey, sound like you said.

[00:13:45] Sound like the public is, you said you sound like the public is for the team. You know, but no, but I mean it's true though. You know, like yes, it is pretty mature from the standpoint of he had one year under center for four, four seasons

[00:13:59] and we saw what happened. But Green Bay committed to Jordan love a long time ago. So you know what I mean? So like from that standpoint, you let Jordan love it. It goes back to it. Like if you that Jordan love walk, you know, I don't think they,

[00:14:14] I don't think these either one of these scenes were in that kind of position. I believe most, I think two are, for instance, the air is on a deal of calamary. When they made his deal, people were saying you didn't have to do that

[00:14:30] because you were essentially owned his rights for like six is first six seasons between the contract and potential two franchise tags. So when they gave him his big extension when he cleared everything off Instagram, I was like, you had all the leverage as teams

[00:14:46] and it seems like teams are willing to just piss off the offensive line men and line backers and corners and wide receivers and run to backs and let them go and keep the quarterback and it draws me to this statement that Chris, we saw what was talking about

[00:15:01] about Jerry Jones and Dallas Cowboys. Jerry Jones said to himself, he was like, I basically impaired Freeseman. I whip up the frenzy around the Cowboys. It's good for us, it's good to be relevant. I do it on purpose essentially. So having a starting quarterback

[00:15:20] that your fans can somewhat believe him because I'm pretty sure my indie fans don't feel the same way as us being from the outside as a valued man. So they're looking at like we got our guy, the pan, we're gonna do this and this is this.

[00:15:33] So when they, when these guys get paid they don't look at it the same way as you know, someone just analyzing it. I think they're like, oh we got our guy, we got our guy because you don't want to be without your guy because you're gonna see

[00:15:48] we're gonna talk about them for a narrator's after this segment and that whole conversation is gonna stem around like they don't have a real guy locked in but that doesn't mean you have to pay over pay the guy you have because Denver doesn't have a good one.

[00:16:04] We also, we also get into this habit of thinking that the quarterbacks of plan one or one against each other. So you don't mean it's like oh we're playing against the Buffalo bills they have Josh Allen, Josh Allen versus Tua, not realizing that

[00:16:18] it don't matter what Tua does if Jel and Ramsay doesn't do his job. You know, and when you look at these situations this is where these teams get stuck in these processes. You know like you look at somebody like say Seattle, right? They got Gino Smith.

[00:16:33] They paid him a couple of seasons ago. They bring in Sam Howe and people are saying to themselves is Gino's job in Trump. You don't mean, and it's based off of what? Like Sam Howe through 21 interceptions last season. Because the best position to be is the back

[00:16:49] of quarterback like I said, it's like being a prince. You don't have responsibilities of king. You just get the walk around all day telling everybody one day LB King. And that's it. I think that's the fans are enamored with the back of quarterback and they're also

[00:17:03] enamored with their guy because and I think Miami might be like, you know what? This is us against the world. Everyone's counteness out. Well, you haven't done anything. It's like you haven't done, you haven't had a playoff when they 24 years. That was 16. Yeah, everybody's clowning myself included. Clowning.

[00:17:24] I got glad here. Not winning since you know, 90, what is 96? And 49ers have it one since the year before that. And you ain't even got to play off win. And somehow you escape criticism yet. You're playing victim. Like, it's come on. Come on. But speaking of these quarterbacks,

[00:17:43] let's talk about this quarterback room that you love so much. Jared Stidham, Zach Wilson, Oh, Nick's are the Broncos tanking for the number one pick in the track. The thing, I've listened. Like I said, I am no fan of Sean Payton. I think he is his,

[00:18:06] Mike McCarthy and lipstick. Like everyone thinks it's so pretty. But if you look at their numbers, I think it might be less now because Mike McCarthy's actually going out there winning games, 36 games in the last three years. But their records are pretty similar

[00:18:19] at the beginning of last year. Obviously didn't finish that way with them being terrible. I think Denver has, I think they have a good philosophy defensively. I know they gave up that 70 burger to Miami, but it might have been after like, after like 28 35 points is like,

[00:18:36] how hard am I really running the chase aging? Like, I'm not catching them. It's a wrap. All reports in training camp either the guy looks great or the guy looks terrible. But realistically, it's just, they look how he looks at Planting and his air.

[00:18:53] They have no fear of getting sacked. The guy rushing them is going to hit them. They're not allowed to hit them. And if somebody does come in there, hit them, they're probably going to get cut before you get in trouble for doing a bad pass.

[00:19:06] So you hit the guy in the red jersey, you're going to get cut. So everybody looks good when you do a bug as air and even the corners to cornerstone challenge. Why I was here because do you really want to be the corner that hurts?

[00:19:17] Devante Adams, if you're out of freighters and you're hurt Devante Adams in the drill. No, you know, especially if you're a second-of-a-thirty in cornea, you want to make a play and be in it. But these guys pull back. That's why a lot of injuries happen

[00:19:29] and preachers and cousin pull back. But Sean Payton was given a lot of money to come in and fix the Denver Broncos' wolves and they didn't work. They blame everything else in a Russell Wilson, even though he was like top seven

[00:19:44] and pass a rating and touchdown and sub-sharish show. He just didn't do the spectacular. He wanted to hit the bomb, Peyton wanted it to check down. He's like, listen man, cornea's down there somewhere. I'm letting this thing go. And Sean's custom on the sidelines

[00:20:01] talking about the risk banning and all of this. He just was real kind of sending to him at public because Russell is a conversation. He probably should have since the year in office. I mean, she's from Atlanta. She probably would have custom out.

[00:20:12] But you should have done something, but I mean, if you think about it, John always basically living the same legacy as Rob Polinka. Tell me, what? A legend, late in this career still with some talent was peeping out of new team for whatever reason

[00:20:30] and just walks into your building and says, hi, I mean, you're like yes. And then that guy goes out and gets you a couple of championship runs, wins you a championship, and then you butcher every move since that. And you're just riding off of that

[00:20:47] and it's got worse and worse and worse. And then when they peeping them, what do they pay them is like the money they're paying him, they should not be drafted in any way near 10 ever. For the money I'm giving you as a head coach.

[00:21:00] Because if I'm giving that much money, person is a head coach, how much money my put into the facility, how much money my put into your assistant coaches? Because if I'm giving you 20 million as a head coach, that means I have to invest in everything else around you

[00:21:15] so that the 20 million doesn't go to waste. So how many hot tubs it a by today? Revent the facility, like there's been a lot of money for a guy who is an average coach, mediocre at best. So, yeah, so

[00:21:31] and then that quarterback room has to be the worst in the league. I can't up to top my head, the preview we've done so far. I can't think of one in the worst situation. I gotta figure out who Minnesota's third string is because you got JJ McCarthy,

[00:21:47] JJ McCarthy only lost one college football game. I know. He beat his rivals and played into the college football play up two years in a row. So, fallen to his purposes, he didn't have to transfer school with he was a state champion, high school quarterback.

[00:22:02] So he's wanted every level so far. So you have the position to be optimistic. Bold Nick's played a lot of years in college and doesn't really have any hardware. Ooh, Nick Mullins, huh? What Nick Mullins is your standard back of quarterback. He's a guy at it.

[00:22:18] You know, if he had to play two games, you could go one in one, one, two or two in a, when he just has like two games where he throws for like six or seven touchdowns. So like you know, basically, you know, I don't know,

[00:22:32] because JJ McCarthy got a arm now. You know what I'm saying? He didn't throw it much, but he got a arm. You know, but like I don't know. So when I look at Denver's roster, right? You know, they traded Jerry Judy, you know, wanted a best route running

[00:22:46] receivers in a league. You know, even though, you know, it was done once Steve Smith called him out, I guess. You know, but they still have Portland Sutton who I like a lot. You know, even though I don't like Bonyx,

[00:23:01] you know, I do like the fact that they drafted his number one target. At Oregon last year, Troy Franklin, 17 yards per perception. So at least there's a sense of comfort ability if he plays if Vonyx starts. There's a comfort ability there. You know, there's somebody continuity wise

[00:23:19] that he has a rapport with. So I always liked that as a rookie, you know, Jamar Chasin, Joe Burrell, even though they're not quite the same thing, but you get the point. Yeah. So so they got Jamonte Williams who came back

[00:23:32] from an injury last year, ACLS, you know. You know, so we'll see how that goes year two coming back from that injury. They did pick up, Audrey Estimate from Notre Dame, you know, who was leading running back in the nation last year, top 10 or so.

[00:23:50] You know, so they filled that, they got Jaleole McLaughlin, who came in last year, made some plays, didn't get a lot of burn, but he made plays when he was on the field. You know, Tim Patrick, oh, that guy, man, I hope he plays this season.

[00:24:04] You know, Achilles in 2022, ACL last year, you know, they said he's at like this. So like to clay Thompson injury and play was ever the same as it is. He's at practice, you know what I mean? So that's a positive sign, at least I like to hear that.

[00:24:19] So you know, we'll see how that goes. You know, but when I look at Denver, they're just, are they as bad off as New England and Carolina? Looking for like who you were optimistic about, New England, Carolina or Denver.

[00:24:31] Honestly, I would say, okay, so out of those three teams, New England defense is the best unit out of those three teams. If we're looking at this from quarterback future that like the league runs on offense nowadays and all of that kind of stuff like that,

[00:24:49] Denver might not be that bad off. It just takes for bold nicks to be better than I think he's going to be. Yeah, but does that help with the coach that hasn't been proven to be able to get? He drew it just, Drew.

[00:25:02] Well, New England has a first time coach who's claimed the fame is he came up under Bellachet. So are you basically getting Bellachet negative 1.0? And then you got Carolina with a first time head coach who is the first time or he's a quarterback whizper apparently, you know,

[00:25:22] but Denver has a coach that thinks he's a guide. They do have a lot of them. Yeah, like so Russell Wilson went to true Super Bowl. I rocked never got an MVP vote when it was always weird. He was always, that's always different.

[00:25:40] Statistically in that space with the other MVP's every, you know, everyone of his good years in Seattle is usually at a good year last year. But I don't know if Sean Payton is the kind of coach that gets the best out of his team.

[00:25:56] So what do you think the answer to that question is out of those three teams? That's in the best position going forward. Yeah. Final jeopardy. I would say, New England because Drake May is your prototypical size quarterback. And if Mayo recognizes that Bill didn't bring in

[00:26:26] the right kind of offensive mind and skill players in his tenure, especially the post, the post Brady time, which is the most recent time, you can clearly see that Bill did not go outside of his Patriot family tree to bring in a guide that was innovative.

[00:26:45] Or even to God I just spoke a different kind of offensive language. I'm not saying that they're going to be better. I just feel that if he, he's in the position Jeremy will be like, you know what? If it doesn't work, whatever the offense

[00:26:59] according to have this year, you go get one of these little floor, make they Shannon hand like one of these guys that they had that at the kind of coaching cache. And then maybe you pair a hemorrhagic right man you let it go.

[00:27:17] But the thing with next cue as you bring your point, I don't know if Nick's is going to get this, is he's going to have the leeway to learn because the pressure that paint is going to be under because of his check,

[00:27:33] his check and his expectations don't match his personnel. Right. So what that person, so that's going to lead you to doing things like pulling him. I'm going to go with Zach next week. I'm going to go with Jeremy. Like I think he's in the position to potentially

[00:27:52] not just let Bow next be Bow next. I don't know how he goes to the podium because I have heard him talk with a saw tongue about any of his players, hell he allowed a bounty gate to pop off in New Orleans.

[00:28:04] So like you can kind of tell that I don't know if he really cares about players, more as he cares about himself and winning because if you cared about players, the last thing you would want was to justify you know illegal hits to enter another player

[00:28:20] for like $200 to the $300 cash payments. They could just roll dice for that money and the locker room if you want to let him get a little extra change in the room for end that adrenaline hit of winning money. But he allowed that to happen.

[00:28:32] So it's like I don't know how, I don't know if his temperament matches the the sick of circumstances that he's in. And then you know earlier you brought up how they gave up 70 to Miami. You know they also held Kansas City to nine.

[00:28:47] You know so they brought in Brandon Jones. They brought in Brandon Jones from Miami. You know the play safety, you know obviously they have certain things still over there. I was wondering if he's going to hit the trade deadline at some point but we'll see.

[00:29:00] They picked up Cody Barton from the commanders. You know who has started 29 games. You know and in the two years that he's been a real full time starter, 136 and 121 tackles. So not too shabby. Yeah but maybe different. I really had his big.

[00:29:18] He never really rested his head on the defense though. He made his, he cut his teeth whatever as they said. They'll all add it with the offense. But his offense was based off of explosive players and a very smart veteran quarterback.

[00:29:32] Drew Reeves was a veteran quarterback with a chip on the shoulder. Ironically you know pun intended with the injured shoulder coming back from that. So if then you had in Wolves the city that was like clamor and four a hero. And he gave him that.

[00:29:48] This situation in Denver is not the same thing and I just don't feel like that's going to be the place. Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah and I don't think Denver's going to be the place where he cultivates growth with this quarterback room because especially with Zach Wilson,

[00:30:08] he has a few years of Zach film that he's going to say to him don't do this with your feet when you throw this pass. And the first game he goes out there, he doesn't set his feet on a little pass at a flat

[00:30:22] and it sails over his head and it's they got a plan on third and eight. He's going to cut him out on the sidelines. He better not start Zach Wilson. I think Zach Morris might be a better quarterback at this point.

[00:30:35] Zenga, AC slater out there but listen that's, but that's, but that's the thing. I don't know what they're going to do in Denver. Think about this. They had a guy that threw over 20 touchdowns last year, less than 10 other exceptions and they shipped them all to another team.

[00:30:53] And their pain that got 38 million dollars to play for another AFC team. So like what's the mindset of this team? Right. Yeah. Like, and that's where it is. You know, there, there obviously every bill mode,

[00:31:08] you know, at least you would like to think so. You know, but like you said, with Sean Payton's contract, how long can that rebuild last? What just where I haven't really heard it out loud? Like, I've only seen rumors of it. Like different insiders had rumors.

[00:31:23] I think they were like 20 million a year. 20 million a year. Like, I've never really saw it formally. I didn't look because everyone was saying rumor, rumor, rumor, didn't got hired and no one ever talked about it again. But obviously, like to throw money,

[00:31:36] you're like, I can say they're throwing 30 million. That was the pencil. Thank you. Right. You know, but the Denver doesn't have, you know, maybe Marvin, Marvin Mums can be their game breaker. You know, he was, he was raw as a rookie last year.

[00:31:52] He could be the inside slot in guy, old school, Dante, whole kind of guy. But you know, and that might work with Baudenix because the thing with Baudenix for me is that

[00:32:02] he's one of those guys that kind of is, he's a gamer more than he is a quarterback. Like, you know, he's one of those, he's not Johnny Manzile, but that's the type of player that I mean. You know, he has that sizzle to crazy decision making.

[00:32:19] But when he plays against good teams, a lot of times, he just climbs up. Now at Oregon, you had that offensive system where it was get the ball out of your hands.

[00:32:30] Snap it, throw, snap it, throw, snap it. And if Tory Franklin ain't open, maybe you can go get us five yards real quick. So so having Tory Franklin will help him. I do believe this season

[00:32:42] that he ends up being starter. I'm just not convinced that he's going to be the starter. Now back to the training camp reports we hear this all year, just like all of season,

[00:32:52] all I've heard about is how Drake may is, you know, not ready, but then I see videos yesterday of him throwing absolute darts. You know, so I mean, both of them can be true. But think about this, if they throw 120 passes, it's a practice. Say that's the number.

[00:33:10] And the Twitter clip we get is four. In theory, Shradiger's cat, you know, we don't know if the cat inside the box is dead or alive until you open the box. If theory, he could have thrown

[00:33:23] 116 bad passes. We wouldn't know because all we had are the four passes that they clip together. Remember when two of a guy, Tyree Kill? Yeah. Mike clip came out of him under throwing Tyree Kill and that's all people talked about all

[00:33:36] season, that two of them. I have a regular season to get injured. But we know two of can't throw to ball that far. But these three to camp videos are always the season. I saw one

[00:33:46] today of Spencer Rallick throwing a dart. Yeah, of course. We have no idea who the corner was covering the lava. We just know a lava caught a deep pass from Rallick. It could have been

[00:33:55] some dude that they just saw, walked to the building with shorter paths and a lava beat some innocent easy throw because there's no defense on Spencer. So it was like, I think what you

[00:34:05] have to gauge off was like, how did this guy play against teams or in colleges that had a lot of NFL star power? Well, you know, he he transferred to get the hell away from the SEC. You know,

[00:34:19] but moving on, you know, so how much can the chargers change in one year? Because I know they got Jim Harbaw now. So a lot of people, now I don't want to say they're getting height because I haven't

[00:34:32] heard much about him because nobody cares about the chargers. I think they're like, they're good to do you believe? Yeah, people do. They're not Houston hype, but they they're getting that like their hardball height. It's not actually a chargers. Right. So so so do you think that

[00:34:46] you're in this McDonald's thing? Do you think that the chargers can be that much better in a year and say, challenge for a wild card spot? I think the chargers are pretty solid team. They are

[00:35:04] they're a lot like the West Coast Jets. They have all the pieces but they need all the pieces there because they don't really have like a concrete like I don't say mantra but just like like

[00:35:20] with the ravens, you know the ravens are going to do this. They're going to run the ball hard two or three tight ends big running back. They're going to run it with the mar. They're going to

[00:35:30] throw over top passes to whatever, whatever, why receiver or whatever that route is that's going to be the deep. Do you know they're going to do that and they're going to insert players of the

[00:35:38] same kind of build and design in these in these spots. The chargers, they need both health, they need back health, they need during they need all these guys healthy because without them

[00:35:51] it is such a drop off with their replacements that they can't overcome it like I said with the Jets. The Jets lose a tackle or they lose a while receiver. They automatically go from maybe a

[00:36:04] high B to like a high C calibre unit. I think the charge when that's saying but what a hard boss probably going to do is slow it down. This is football, you guys are big strong athletes.

[00:36:18] I just need to put a hat on a hat and we can go four yards in the cloud of dust. Little play actually you have a quarterback that can move. He has the arm so you can still

[00:36:28] stress the defense if Richardson can was the most of what named the wife. Johnson, if he can catch the ball I think they already moved out like the reports going back to those reports right

[00:36:43] what I saw in the report. Yes, it's a drop. If he's looking at the quarterback. I saw a video and granted this is like I'm not taking Pino's creditor but I saw a video of him and

[00:36:54] Barbara Harris and Jr. working out and just the way Barbara Harris and Jr. was like reaching out football they were working out together. Same same area wasn't like two different workouts they're working out together and Barbara Harris and Jr. was like catching a ball out in front

[00:37:10] with his hands talking and moving it. Quinn Johnson was catching it like here so like he's turning and he's turning his body and he's getting his hands on a ball but like Harris was like here

[00:37:21] like he was like seeing the ball getting it getting into a hit there too. So it's like it just it looked in that video like okay I can see how one guy would be successful catching the ball

[00:37:32] like catch the rate for your body to defend his air you can't let it get to hear and he get his hands that you got to get your hands up body position stuff like that because he's a big

[00:37:40] body he probably just is a big of a pair of hands and Jr but just when he was catching the ball it looked it looked like he would have trouble with which would consider drops because guys

[00:37:49] gonna be able to knock that it was hand but I think I think if he I don't know if you can go with that old school capernick offensive they ran with the Alex. Oh I'm glad you said that because

[00:38:04] you know who their office coordinator is right. He brought all the people back. Greg Greg, you know saying Scott is gonna try you know who didn't work out in Baltimore but the charge for

[00:38:15] philosophy is out with the injured and with the injured you know saying so they got rid of Keenan Allen and Mike Williams who always seemed to miss games. They just the bring in Haydenhurst always miss games J.K. Dobbins who always miss games Christian Folten who always

[00:38:34] misses games you know but everything else is pretty much the same they bought in Joe Alt so you know the office of line should get a pick me up there with Rashont Slater on the other side. He looks like a 12 year

[00:38:47] veteran he does he look he's gonna be the guy you know like I said we're still evaluate and I don't know what great office of line but but you know but but to something green like he's gonna be that

[00:38:59] Joe Thomas kind of guy I think. I was literally thinking Joe Thomas I mean he literally got drafted in a log cabin where in the quarters it was brother and sir and khakis his whole family looked

[00:39:11] like they just hunt deer and eat. It doesn't mean like yeah it just was like but that's the thing that can be enough to get you wins against you know you can be Seattle doing that you could

[00:39:29] you can beat teens are gonna beat themselves when you just have this smash mouth but eventually you're gonna have to make plays and this is where just a Herbert comes like listen you're paying him over $250 million so he's gonna have to make plays put up a shut up.

[00:39:45] At this point in this thing and that's the problem right Nate they went out like I said Keenan Allen's gone might Williams's gone not that they would really there anyway but you know

[00:39:55] you got Latvian Comke that they drafted now out of Georgia so everybody's in love with him you know you brought up Clinton Johnson they went and got DJ shark they do have Josh Palmer who I like a lot

[00:40:06] you know so this is one of those things where when I look at the charges in the raiders when I was trying to pick my order in his division I had to ask myself do I want the quarterback with the lack

[00:40:18] of receivers or do I want the receivers that can make a lackluster quarterback look good so you know from that standpoint do I want to volunteer atoms and drop dollars even though I'm stuck with

[00:40:31] mid shoe and potentially a no-conno or do I want Justin Herbert in trust that he can make these receivers look a little bit better than they may really be. I like to say we talked about teams

[00:40:45] that signed their guy Harba obviously didn't sign just heard we just got there right the bet Herbert did get bailed out with this narrative of bad coaching when Brande said they kept going

[00:41:00] for them for down because the quarterback still has to convert those. The matter if you go for it and not like fortune to admit feel yeah we can all think it's done you remember the game against

[00:41:12] Minnesota last season when they went for like four days or two at the 25 with like five seconds or like fifty seconds left and they won the game because because it's getting the crowd to shut up.

[00:41:24] Yeah so yeah stuff like that or the game against Cleveland what I went for and the defense build them out by not allowing Cleveland to get back in a corner game against the

[00:41:35] Raiders with the play also on the line. But once again Herbert still has to make those plays because we all knew say he was going for them for down all the time every game we knew that was going

[00:41:46] to happen so he's someone still has to make the play because my homes in the Super Bowl can vary a couple of four downs in fourth quarter and overtime and all we remember is Joey Bolsen or

[00:41:59] Nick Bolsen not being there where you should have been there and the mom's converted. So just it would still have to convert those if they put him in a bad predicament but you got opportunity

[00:42:10] at six foot five to get six feet you know getting two yards on fourth down it's not like crazy. If you went for a bunch of fourths and 12s it was like it was fourth and two for the situations

[00:42:20] were bad but once again you're the quarterback you got to convert it so he did get bailed out. The antilev firing was because he was so good they thought they should have been better

[00:42:30] and it was like oh we should be living in a different kind of house they was trying to keep up with their juniors and got rid of land and the lent to soon I think I would have kept him

[00:42:38] versus getting bread and staley but I think our boss would do well because I'm a proponent of you know the kiss method you know keep us up with stupid football basketball whatever

[00:42:53] basketball if you have space shoot open shot if the guy crowds you take them off the dribble try to get to the hoop if you're having trouble scoring take it to the cup get filed get two free

[00:43:06] throws see the ball go do to who if the teams having trouble here they say the potato someone has to like make someone has to do the thing the simple thing that get people going like you're not going

[00:43:17] to just if you're struggling in offense and like Kansas City we talked about the the game against the Raiders and the game against the Broncos they were struggling but they were within one position

[00:43:28] they didn't keep it they didn't go to the go it let's drop some screen passes in here my home just hitting the bombs you're not falling for the play action stuff like that let's keep it simple

[00:43:38] they didn't do that any loss both of those games but in Super Bowl they gave a simple one I think Jim Harbaugh's gonna keep them in games potentially I could see 10 wins 10 is seven in a wild card

[00:43:51] because I think I think he'll run the clock four minutes left scores 20 to one and 20 they're down one I can see him going slow going slow going slow and getting dicker to kick right there

[00:44:03] the kick of 45 yard field goal and win the game 23 21 well I would like to think that you know to your point about the fourth down calls and all that kind of stuff like that I would like to think

[00:44:19] that's for the comment Joe that that having Joe that having Jim Harbaugh might reverse two to three of those those outcomes so two of those games that you would have lost

[00:44:31] with Brandis Daily making dumb decisions now become wins yeah I think he gives you a better third down call yeah because he doesn't have the expectation I'm going for him fourth down anyway or

[00:44:44] he goes for it he does something on third down that's gonna either make the other team use the time out or the clock's gonna run or this is looks this is probably going to convert and if it doesn't

[00:44:55] I'm going to just pin it deep into my defense hold them right I'm not sure if I'm not sure if the defense really felt that Brandon Staley who was at the fence of coach

[00:45:07] coming over from the Rams that he trusted them in these moments and the matter how team it does like the name on the front is more important than the name on the back that's

[00:45:19] yes because they don't cut the name on a front if you don't make exactly the name one of our boss well Harbaugh Harbaugh comes in with the credibility right you know the five years before he

[00:45:31] became a 49er hit coach they were at 33 and 47 he went 13 and three to first year lost in the NFC title game 64 and 44 overall made it to a Super Bowl you know he was 29 and 6 at the

[00:45:44] University of San Diego who doesn't even give out scholarships you know he took Stanford to a BCS Bowl and obviously we see what he did but Michigan won their first outright national title says

[00:45:55] 1948 we don't count the 1997 split titles around here so so you know so Harbaugh has proven that not only is he a great coach as far as culture and picking everything up but

[00:46:07] you know he's a fixer and he's a builder and he comes into messed up situations and he can be that person that catapults a team to a different level I think he's like when we're talking

[00:46:22] about the coaches getting hired this all season and you know the recent hires you have the Sean McVease that has success you have Michael Flores you have your ZAC tail as a Cincinnati

[00:46:35] you have these young guys that got hired on late 30s 40s Arctus Smith's example of a guy that got hired on just because he kind of fit that new wave mode well I'm an old head I remember

[00:46:49] what old school football was like it still applies you do not have to go through the ball 50 times because everyone talks about oh you don't want to pay the rentback you don't want to pay the

[00:46:58] but I go back to this point painfully all the time if Atlanta runs the ball in the suitable there's going to be up 11 points either they're going to get the first down or they're

[00:47:10] going to at a minimum one more first down for about two more minutes right so something that like something nice simple as just being able to say because the reason he even got that far down

[00:47:19] the field was it to a scream pass to the running back because he was open because everyone thought he was going to repeat because he was a MVP the Vonta Adams got down there and then who the

[00:47:28] old made the crazy catch but even with the catch by the old you just if you pound the rock you have an opportunity to kick a field go to go up 11 so I think Harbaugh's gonna do that four

[00:47:39] minutes left like listen I could get you know I could get Johnson on on this corner out because they're planning with the nickel corner or whatever and maybe he beats some or I can give it the

[00:47:52] Dobbins here and get three yards or go hard play action road just on Herbert out little dump all of two the tight end hey Neherz and just get get the you know like I think you'll

[00:48:05] make that play call versus the let me see how far my strong on quarterback can throw it on 32 right and you know they so they did bring in La McComkey through the draft so he has the chance to be their leading receiver this year right off top

[00:48:20] you know they got rid of Washington say got rid of they didn't resign Austin Eccler who is now you know half-assed and then in Washington because you know he doesn't want to be a full-time

[00:48:30] running back you know he was a touchdown machine though you know so what did they do they went out and got Gus Edwards from the Baltimore Ravens you know career highs last year in yards and touch downs 13

[00:48:42] touchdowns you know but like I said JJ JK Dobbins you know so so so if Gus Edwards hopefully he can stay up right because I don't know what's being out of on Friday that

[00:48:53] so he got a bunch of guys and you should play for his brother right it been hey first he's been playing Baltimore so you got JK Dobbins you got Gus says so you have drag Romeo was there

[00:49:03] Bung Roman which yeah so what you have is that what they learned whatever they learned from their dad growing up in his level of just his coaching credibility and his coach credentials it's definitely table conversations where they have conversations about what they would do

[00:49:21] if they were ever a head coach of a team or why they should do this why they should do that or who they should hire I mean literally there's a fence coordinator in Michigan used to work in

[00:49:31] Baltimore so maybe they're going to be with him too so maybe he's trying to set up this culture of Baltimore West which I personally think I think Baltimore has the best football culture mixed in with Pittsburgh I like Pittsburgh Baltimore I think that style and that

[00:49:52] culture in the way they they really established like listen if you want to be the backup to this linebacker you got to be able to do what he does you can't just be oh I'm a linebacker

[00:50:04] 62247 and the starter is 6259 like you'll you need to get 12 more pounds on you need to be able to take on guards on in this kind of you know pulling guards you need to be able to

[00:50:18] you need to be able to do the same thing that the guy ahead of you does because what good of you to me if I'm trying to call these plays and you are limited more like limited than the guy ahead of me so

[00:50:28] that's why Pittsburgh always has these guys that seem to come out of nowhere like no they just literally get the same guy like oh I drafted it got three years ago no stack of 63330 pounds I'm gonna

[00:50:40] get another one so what I need to run them in the game I'm literally I don't have to switch on my playcalls look at Baltimore's backup quarterback Tyler Huntley was probably not

[00:50:48] gonna be a backup quarterback for any other team but they had Lamar it was like I can't have Lamar and then Sam Donald is back up like it doesn't make any sense it just doesn't it make it doesn't fit our

[00:50:59] philosophy so I like that approach yeah so you know and you know as an aside you know I do like Kamaani Vadell you know out of Troy you know 1661 yards 14 touchdowns last year so in case Jk8 there

[00:51:17] they might be all right but you know yeah like but look at the Raiders there we go look at the head of it's they've never been under five hundred man in 17 years

[00:51:32] 17 years man so winning it's coming to give this year though it's coming to you this year but but the Raiders you know like Antonio Pierce got the full-time job now 5 and 4 is the interim last

[00:51:48] year you know he brought in Marvin Lewis as an associate head coach or assistant head coach so hey rock around ago 5 and 12 this year because they have I don't know if they have the quarterback play

[00:52:00] that's gonna keep their star virus you're happy and it's a quarterback and that plays out here New Jersey that would gladly take that guy out there hands and I think that's gonna be the big

[00:52:10] story because I get it you got the interim coach and you you want them but the lens put you in a position the way you couldn't draft the quarterback they said it just told them last year

[00:52:22] we're gonna give you a shot next year maybe a coach coach coach the way you can get the people going but you know if you want to be here and you want to get Michael Pinnock Jr you might

[00:52:34] want to get a couple less wins I don't know how you really preach that to NFL coach those coaching for his job my MIA have a problem doing that they tried to trap them on the boat

[00:52:49] with Tom Brady but uh Brian Flores yeah quick that I went away um but either my problem with the Raiders is that they had you probably weren't gonna be able to get up to to get Jane Daniels I

[00:53:05] understand that you kind of got to seven to get Michael Pinnock's if you really wanted if they rumor has it he was the guy you were we were kind of scouting maybe you go up to six I made it

[00:53:20] did catch everybody off guard that Michael Pinnock Jr went eight so maybe that's not really their fault but I didn't see them making any aggressive moves aside you know just just going with the draft

[00:53:33] and then they had an ad in a connole you know gravel's gone whatever the case maybe but guard them and shoot like he's a gamer he's not you know like you said both nicks is a gamer he just

[00:53:43] writes the moment guard them and shoot just plays above whatever his scouting report says about him every time I didn't know how the report says make them throw across the middle yeah

[00:53:55] a lot like Tyler and Heidi Kee tell on Heidi Kee was one of those guys that it was feaster famed it could be three touchdowns and a crazy scrambled author in 12 or you get inside of red zone

[00:54:06] any foam to ball away diving for the first time like it's you know hit her miss feaster faming I think men she was that in that position and that's a tough position to be when you're dealing

[00:54:17] with the first year hair coach who could get fired I mean the owner's a billionaire you can easily get rid of him bring bellachick and dack press got in next year and see we can make work

[00:54:27] so you know as big as big as has to put on a show what was wild is even with Josh Jacobs last year who came into last season as the rushing champion from the previous year they finished 30

[00:54:41] of in Russian last year you know so they have a severe white out of Georgia you know who I think it's just a career backup for the most part you know but I was like the raiders got it what are

[00:54:52] they going to do you know he's gone he's gone they're big running back move was we're going to get Alexander Madison from the vice if you can make if you could make a hole you can get like I

[00:55:06] said not as you hear is one over a thousand yards last year and Warren had over 800 so if you could play physical enough you can you know like I said three and a half yards per place the first down

[00:55:17] like I saw my senel of time when he played football or when he was younger he was you know always trying to hit the big play because when he just flames like you want to get the yards I'm going to

[00:55:25] listen if you guys get three and a half yards per place first down second down third down that's 10 10 and a half yards that's the first down you can go down the field doing that every play so with the raiders I don't think their situation is bad

[00:55:48] I think that maybe they could be in a situation where they're looking to sign one of these free agent guys as like be cut loose next year you know somebody on the contract like an

[00:56:02] expiring contract like a deck something like that but they maybe they want to do that because they just made that mistake with um grappleo maybe they really want to develop a no comment

[00:56:15] I didn't see anything from a no kindle that says he's more than just been a big backup I don't remember any throws I know like anyone could throw the ball at the vantille you know

[00:56:26] Adams when he's open but they game that they be Kansas City he didn't have a completion in the second half they got two turnovers and like 14 to 15 seconds that went for touchdowns

[00:56:37] and then the whole second half like he just he didn't make any impact play at all in a game where when again and then even in that same the Los Angeles game where

[00:56:49] they scored 63 points it was just the defense is putting them in position just a score point so like he has a boxing I don't like I said I didn't see it like I watched a watch later games

[00:57:01] I think I just see I see them in the watch a lot of radar games they were on Monday I football a couple times and I was kind of watching a frantille appear so I turned out

[00:57:12] I said see a situation where you look across you know if you you're down six and you come over and is like all right and get us an enzyme it's just that moment just didn't occur

[00:57:25] and I don't think I don't think it's happening at all season because unlike they made a lot of well I think the biggest thing that happened for them is the fact that Aaron Rogers said

[00:57:34] that he wants to play with the ones Adams again well he did well he did in a battle he did so that he can overcome adversity I mean his first game he got sex six times by one dude

[00:57:44] you know how you get sex six times by one dude because you hold on to the ball to them and then you got you know Brock Bowers whoever the quarterback is going to be

[00:57:56] Brock Bowers should be their best friend so you know that so that's a start you know they still got Jacobi Myers so I don't think the Raiders are that far off and I wanted to believe in them

[00:58:07] until I saw one thing and you know of course this is like sports reports is ordered so petty is our favorite color you know I was with the Raiders until I saw Luke get see was their often

[00:58:18] support data and you know if those of you that don't know Luke get see he was the office coordinator for the Chicago Bears the last three years and I was kind of taking a back

[00:58:29] you know because we already saw what he can or can't do with a young quarterback now granted Justin feels as a little different because he brings the legs you know to the game so maybe he works better with traditional quarterbacks you know they do they did bring back

[00:58:46] Brad Patrick Graham to the fifth coordinator you know he had the Raiders plan as a top five defense towards the end of the season as you talked about the game against Kansas City so so the Raiders

[00:58:57] definitely have upside Chris you know Chris yeah yeah Chris your Wilkins is going to free up Max Crosby to be even more of a minutes and they're gonna be not really the Nevada yeah knowingly the Nevada they're gonna have a discreet defense that's gonna hold people to 13 14 points

[00:59:17] and if they don't start guard if they start eight no count then there's just hoping that the defense can keep teams well you remember that one year I don't know I think it was two years ago

[00:59:30] where Denver had this wild stat where it was like if they had just average 19 points again yeah that was the that's not here that might be the Raiders this year you know to be like

[00:59:41] if y'all have average 19 points again y'all might win on games but that's the thing the reason that stat is in our memory banks is because they didn't average those points no one brings it up with you

[00:59:55] no one brings up like when the Raiders only allows 16 points back in 2001 or whatever the years when they want to see a role because they were beaten to hell out of people no one was like wow

[01:00:04] that's so impressive it's impressive when you when you're a team that's sub a sub five hundred team and people like yo you know they only give up 16 to that points again then this a

[01:00:15] conversation that was a hack a year because they didn't have an offensive identity that matched like that came from the coach you literally had the higher another guy yeah I'm not sure what

[01:00:28] the Raiders are gonna do I personally because I don't know what the price I guess for guard dementia I can't imagine it's more than 16 million dollars or 20 million dollars if that I think

[01:00:41] guys like case key number getting like 17 or 18 million dollars to be back up so I can't imagine an eternal count of not a first round pick so he's not getting any big years 25 million so yeah about 12 and

[01:00:52] half million bucks I think that I know that yeah probably did so good at this so you're not you're not really you're not really hurting yourself by starting guard dementia and you're not really

[01:01:05] hurting the potential franchise second year quarterback because he's not that so if they want to go out there and just win games and compete in aFC West start guard dementia they still probably end up

[01:01:16] third but it would be like that bill in the box season it'll be the season that people think the charge are gonna have I think the charge is gonna have a better season then nine and eight

[01:01:25] I think 10 and seven is realistic because like I said I think they're gonna go out of win games 23 21 I think the Raiders are gonna lose games 2017 yeah and I mean it's at a point you know they finished

[01:01:39] seven of them points for game giving up last year you know so I mean Max Crosby almost won defense of player the year so Tyre Wilson is also gonna benefit from the Christian walk Wilkins

[01:01:51] addition as well you know but of course you can't talk about the AFC West unless you talk about the champs yeah they're gonna be good and the shows over there yeah yeah and we you

[01:02:04] and we you you you what is it you you you you come but it you haven't the king you best not miss you're gonna be so so this is where we are right like Kansas City trying to become the first

[01:02:16] team in NFL history to win three consecutive Super Bowl's you know championships championships has been done before they were called Super Bowl's yeah this is the knife yeah this is the

[01:02:26] knife time that a team has won back the back but now they can put that elemental on top and I do not want to be anywhere around anybody with a Tom Brady jersey if the team's win the Super Bowl this

[01:02:39] year you know the be I'm not here for it you know we've had this conversation before patch my home's got a win you got to win eight yes it has to win eight because if he wins six

[01:02:53] the argument will be well time Brady beat him for two what well you know as your champs have game and then beat him as a rule so he has to win eight well you don't well you don't well you

[01:03:03] know the problem is you know is that when you look at this right you say to yourself last year was the year that people were supposed to get Kansas City you know like they you know

[01:03:16] MBS probably just dropped another pass you know like they didn't even play cadaverious Tony you know the life into the field he was tough I think we're watching that game right I think we're

[01:03:27] watching a lot because you're ahead of me yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and you saw it and was like well wait to see it and I was like what and I've seen it I was like

[01:03:41] but then in the age you championship game he goes to him it must be something it must be like Tom Brady because they were like Julie Adams says his granny they could talk

[01:03:56] about it because they won the silver bulldozer like at no point when they're in a sideline thinking they were going to lose the silver bull because they had time I'm like yeah that sounds cute now

[01:04:04] because you won but there's no way in a hell you were thinking that realistic you might have thought when you got to 28 the when you got to 28 to 12 and you were getting the ball back you were like

[01:04:16] you know we might be able to do this but you're not thinking at 23 in Atlanta has the ball but that's not what's going through your head at any point but when you the ball field down 28 12 with

[01:04:27] eight minutes left you're thinking like okay we can we can string this together that makes more sense uh somebody with my homes it just I think I brought this up to you in a conversation they they measured his heart rate like during like precious situations and games

[01:04:48] and his heart rate is lower when he's on the field and precious situations versus being on the sideline so on the sideline he's like physically friendly yeah he might not show it but like

[01:05:07] internally he like he's frantic but on the field in those moments it's like in those the bathroom so I watched you know he's because he's been this when he big games I watched quarterback

[01:05:18] I watched that series and then you know obviously it came out when um you know have to super so you saw like I knew that they won the game but having the the camera on them

[01:05:30] and the way he was talking and the way he interacts with the coach in these precious situations like in a super bowl and things like that like let's think about the Houston game

[01:05:39] they were down 24 nothing in the first half and within a half time of 28 24 right and home just doesn't that just doesn't happens in video games that doesn't happen in real life and didn't did it again and again people like kind of forgetting that first rule with the

[01:05:57] with the 49ers they were down 20 to 10 he had just drawn a pick and when that game 31 to 20 they got the ball back like they do the pick with like nine minutes left

[01:06:10] in the game and they scored three more touchdowns granted one was a long daily Williams one but still it's like they scored three more touchdowns after he threw a pick so it's just you know most guys

[01:06:22] shut down when that happens and just just because of that honestly it doesn't really even matter who's on the team long as those guys have above average NFL talent I think he's the fourth multiplier that's gonna make it better Xavier where they might not be great at catching

[01:06:37] ball and then we say yes it drops in Texas but I mean if you beat if you beat in guys and he he gets you deep just hold onto the ball well you know like that's the thing Buffalo the

[01:06:50] fucked up again you know they made the trade that facilitated Patrick Mahomes band able to go to the chiefs they gave him Xavier worthy you know their next time he killed and then oh by the

[01:07:01] way they went and got Hollywood Brown too for the other side so deep balls galore flying all over Aaron but you know like I was gonna say last year you know they didn't even play Cadarius Tony down

[01:07:12] the stretch style of Moore was out with an injury and you know both of them were very vital to the Super Bowl win against Philadelphia so so if you didn't get the chiefs last year and they ran

[01:07:23] the same play with McCoy arm and win as Super Bowl but this is the thing and I agree with you you know to me but that's still doesn't but you know Coleman is better than worthy but my

[01:07:36] homes is better than Alan yeah you see Coleman's probably better for Josh Allen because Rashie Rice can do yeah it's all just hype so there's all hype and speculation

[01:07:52] but if he gets too far yeah but if he gets open any catches a few of them like look in the yes like we had to drop against Philly but if we look like if we look at the ace and

[01:08:06] championship game he went right back to him McCoy Harvey went to the jets had a bad run they brought him right back in with the same season brought him right back and he catches the game when

[01:08:17] touchdowns were cool so my home just does I don't know how much film he watches and I don't know like what his brain works I don't know if him and Andy like sitting have just conversations about football

[01:08:32] I don't know if him and Kelsey like I don't know how much they communicate but there's I think there was a play I don't know if it was this season on quarterback another documentary he

[01:08:45] did they Kelsey caught a touchdown it was like maybe like a 12 13 yard touchdown and inside the red zone but he threw it like the back in the end zone and Kelsey said hi do you know I was going to

[01:08:56] do that he's like I didn't had this through it yeah like he just stopped his route and turned around like it wasn't like a real route like he just was like you know what I think I can get open if

[01:09:05] I just turn around you see what he turned around the balls I mean he's like how's your nose gonna do that he's like I don't know just look like something you would do but so it's like

[01:09:13] that's the thing is like that kind of connection and he looks for other guys in those type moments we talk about Aaron Rogers Aaron Rogers not throwing a ball to anybody else in that energy championship game begins the 49ers caught some of the game because I think Chris

[01:09:29] will can drive one early the other tight-end Josiah the Gorris on like that he dropped a like an open pass and he just kept going to Jones and time you're not that like he just loses

[01:09:42] faith in guys he's a gamer like he wants to make plays but he doesn't want he doesn't know how to get people that second chance because the way in Vs was dropping passes and I think Tony probably

[01:09:54] would have got more run if you find it in Pizzle of the coaches I imagine that like all that Instagram stuff he was talking about and just kind of going to the net probably piss the coaches off

[01:10:03] but I saw a report that they're working them out as running back I'm like this dude getting a well a well black screen pass partially good like it only had to be a great one he might be playing

[01:10:14] us running back this year that's what I'm saying so just like a half way decently black screen pass could go to the house. So they've been worthy is going to be the time

[01:10:29] we kill I guess that makes the area is Tony the Percy Harvin you know so but hey Kansas City that's perfect no maybe a perfect girlfriend no more drama right Chris Jones five years one sixty

[01:10:43] he's back Drew Trinkle back you know Trent McDuffy is obviously back but they did lose legarius need do you think that hurt somebody you think their defense is good enough to overcome

[01:10:56] it's seems like their defense is kind of cranking out a factory of quality man and man corners they seem to they seem to figure it out I like I like their lineback and play between

[01:11:07] Bolton and uh yeah triangle I just I like I just like their I like their play making ability and then we saw in this in a super bowl we talked about Chris Jones just blowing up plays

[01:11:21] there was guys eating up two blocks which normally is Jones's job but they were beaten their guy off the of the snap as well so it's like smart off and some lines of the goal I got a hope that

[01:11:36] this guy can hold up Jones because this other guy is getting through so if they were sliding for Texans at different guys and that's how Jones got through to break up the play

[01:11:44] where I you would have been wide on for the touchdown because there's a hold the fence of front which is just constantly just getting through um my home's my home's money is like his contract

[01:11:56] being that is 10 years I guess my rudimentary knowledge of a salary count what they can do is just keep reworking it to where you pay him like a big salary like a big salary like a big

[01:12:09] salary roster bonus and then you move some other money to latter year that frees up money to pay like a guy like Kelsey so if they want to give Kelsey 17 million they could move

[01:12:23] eight or 10 million of his sign-in bonus to year seven of the contract pay him a different sign-in bonus this year some crazy like that and then wiggle some other people into those spaces where

[01:12:37] he's now vacated this money but he's getting a lot of money up front just towards the end of this deal is gonna be like 20 million dollars a year because he's getting so much of it up

[01:12:47] in these first few years but they you know it's they're just playing you know salary cap roulette yeah so so you know Kansas City obviously has a hold on this division 30 and five Patrick Mahomes record against the AFC West you know do you think that Kansas City

[01:13:07] is going to finish with the best record in the league? I ironically guess have we talked about my Amy the way my Amy schedule is set up 12 and five is realistic because they play so many of

[01:13:21] there they play so many games in good weather or don'ts and if you don't have the defensive back horses to keep up with what they do they can win 12 or 13 games. I can see Kansas City winning

[01:13:36] about the same but I think they would be probably more focused on winning the division. Could Kansas City here's a question for you if somebody told you that Kansas City was going to start oh and two what would you say to them in response?

[01:13:58] That's likely because they got Baltimore since they had you back to back. Both I home though both at home but they're still tough opponents. Baltimore's you could call it a revenge game

[01:14:11] I personally think it should have been Houston in Kansas City I think that would have been a great week one match up because they played Houston later in the year I think that would have been

[01:14:19] a better week one match up because you got the young team that everyone is kind of like the young darling versus the old guard. Okay first yeah versus the team that they just play an AFC

[01:14:32] championship game you know I just I feel like I feel like it's like a cheap setup versus an innovative one I think the more innovative one would have been a better piece. So you remember when

[01:14:42] I was talking about how Buffalo had the SEC schedule correct you know Kansas City got the right schedule so you know like you said Baltimore is Cincinnati to start out then they go that

[01:14:55] they go to LA to play the charges which is basically a neutral site game you know they played the same set at home on Monday night football by week come off the buy at San Francisco

[01:15:07] so if you go to play San Francisco play them after your buy week right then they go to Vegas they get Tampa and Denver at home they go to Buffalo so normally this is the part of the

[01:15:19] schedule where you're like they go to Buffalo who they got after that they go to Carolina did they got the Raiders at home charge that home at Cleveland and then they close with Houston

[01:15:31] at Pittsburgh and at Denver that is a very manageable schedule as far as you know you know just you got a tough team but then your next tough game is it until like three weeks later or

[01:15:45] whatever the case may be all right but let's let's break that down a real quick you got it you got it states and I got you got it states winning rugby too front of the show

[01:15:55] all right so we got first game then it's a 10 day break 7 days 7 days 8 days 13 days 7 days 7 days 6 days 7 days 7 days 5 days another 10 days 7 days 6 days 4 days they play a game against Houston on December 21th

[01:16:24] and then they play at Pittsburgh on Christmas Day yeah and then they finish January 5 against so their week the week routine is going to be like it's it's going to be unlike in the other

[01:16:42] team and the league they're going to play a game on five or six of the seven days of the week yeah they got a third they got Thursday Sunday Monday Friday and Wednesday so at least five

[01:16:58] yeah you know the baby so yeah but if anybody can do it they can so so you know then you know they did lose really gain a new Orleans you know I just don't see so right now as we sit here

[01:17:14] you know it's only you know July 20th and oh by the way people by the way people don't forget Thursday night football is back you know we got the Chicago Bears in the Houston Texas

[01:17:29] in the Hall of Fame game but uh but yeah like Kansas City I just think that out in the AFC just looking at it on today outside of Baltimore you know I don't really see the team that

[01:17:44] challenges them like I know that I said I think Houston can give them a good run for their money but I probably wouldn't pick Houston to win that game you know I just think Houston might match up with them

[01:17:55] okay but but you know but but Baltimore is like the one team so I'm excited for week one you know said I want to see how the season starts and to put the ball on it I don't see Kansas City any

[01:18:09] worse than 12 and 5 you know um yeah I think we're going to have a good year I every other team that you would pick to beat them in the AFC has someone on a hot seat and someone

[01:18:24] ready to push a button right Baltimore Baltimore not necessarily anybody on a hot seat but I think the pressure for Lamar and John Harbour is there going to be a question where they don't get it

[01:18:36] over enough this year do they both enter next year on a hot seat or do they even make it through the old season I know you don't really fire a hardball they're going to have a good year but is it

[01:18:47] that same thing like I don't believe when you have a good team like you got to make a change just for the sake of change so I think when you have good coaches and good players you keep them together

[01:18:57] and you know your cylinders are silly you can't expect to have a higher cylinder with some people you have no idea that they can even reach the plateau that your guy you're thinking about fire can

[01:19:08] right Buffalo coach going to be on a hot seat already Cincinnati quarterbacks on a hot seat team on a hot seat because they're going to have to pace one of these guys there why I was wondering

[01:19:22] what if Miami doesn't win a playoff game this year is that a hot seat situation because I know you already got Robert Sorrow and I think Robert Sorrow's on a hot seat because he

[01:19:36] I think he's he's putting himself there I think he's put himself in a pressure cooker I think he is allowing the New York media hype and expectation to kind of mold his attitude

[01:19:47] because he used to be wrong optimistic and happy and excited on the silent for San Francisco he's been disgruntled the entire time he's been ahead coaching in New Jersey like I don't think I've

[01:19:56] ever seen him maybe a couple times when they pulled off like a wing and I think they would get like every when we bite man every every interaction with the media seems that I personally

[01:20:07] seen like even the one with Aaron Rogers this year what you know Mr. Trinney can he could come my thing like listen Aaron Rogers had something that he planned he'd notify us

[01:20:18] we're gonna handle all internally I know you guys I'll have a lot of questions but I'm not going to get a lot of that much more information behind all things internally so Aaron's aware

[01:20:27] the ownership is aware leaves shows aware so you know like that's all really to say about that you know next question and like you know but he kind of took it like he felt like he was a burden

[01:20:37] that they're asking me this question like you have Aaron Rogers on your TV of all these heavy expectations but Miami I don't think they I think Mike net is I think he's likable

[01:20:48] and I think to a and those athletes fit their system so if you're a fire him you'd have to figure out like is the next guy gonna be a coordinator that's going to sit out the

[01:21:03] hard type of players right so I'm gonna go with Kansas City at 12 and 5 I'm gonna pick the charge is not an eight I'm gonna go 7 and 10 for the Raiders and I'm gonna go 4 and 13 for the Broncos

[01:21:16] I like 4 and 13 I like 6 and 11 for the Raiders because I don't I don't know what their quarterback plays gonna look like um I don't know if they're best offensive player is going to be there post-traid

[01:21:31] online I can see that kind of firing up Kansas City 12 and 5 that seems realistic I got 10 and 7 for the Chargers I just think that I just think that car boss is gonna be able to get them to 10 wins so

[01:21:45] 9 and 8 10 wins like I say it's a difference between going forward on 14 to missing out and then the other team kicks the game in the field goal versus you convert it on 30 down and just run

[01:21:55] in the clock out I think that I think that's going to be the difference where we're gonna get 10 wins I think the 7 losses are gonna come when they have to play a team that you

[01:22:06] have some real firepower and collial mac is out that day or during during James's out that day or both is out for a couple of games because that's inevitable like like they're back there there replacement players aren't on part of them because they're all pros but they're

[01:22:21] often injured as well so I think it's gonna be a couple of games where they're going to go in short-handed right and that's gonna that's gonna call I think that's gonna cost them a couple

[01:22:32] of games there yeah as far as Cleveland goes we'll get into the AFC North next week but Cleveland for me I'll just say right now isn't Enigma you know the Sean Watson will have to regain form

[01:22:46] the Sean Watson have whatever marker of full scout because that's what it seems like you know I don't know but but obviously he's far in Houston and he was a dud and his he probably played

[01:23:00] about what 14 games we're getting to have a like I can't like he just doesn't look the same he doesn't look at the same threat right and you know like Nick Chub is not practicing

[01:23:13] he's not back at practice yet after that injury he had last year so you know hopefully we do get to see him on the field this year they did pick up Dianne say four minutes ago along with

[01:23:24] Jerome Ford so they'll still be able to run the ball you know they picked up Jerry Judy a Maori Cooper just you know he's getting paid again so you know Cleveland Cleveland has

[01:23:35] don't get too much of them yeah I want to ask the question I want to answer it so you know yeah I got you like so so so Cleveland has the roster to make a run and I like Kevin

[01:23:49] Stephanski you know he was my coach in the year last year but that division man that division you know like it's just tough like the last place team and that it's like the NBA right we talk

[01:24:02] about you know the Fc in the West could be the third season in the East you know the last team into the AFC North could win other divisions so you know I'm interested to see Cleveland like

[01:24:14] the one thing that you know I will not Cleveland on of course is when you look at their road numbers on defense last year versus their home numbers it will remind you of how that press

[01:24:25] got looked at home versus how he looked on the road correct you know so so from that standpoint but on that note you know saying it is about that time we got to wrap it up so pause

[01:24:41] you know you gotta make sure I cover my bases here you know but uh like review subscribe Thursday we got football back we will be here we will be live we will be talking about the

[01:24:55] end of C-West San Francisco Rams anyone we'll see what happens yeah but you know he is this the logical do not bring feelings to a fact fight do it don't do it I am going left

[01:25:13] so much you thought I was so far but to resident taste point feel straight or does it have to say it but Joe we'll be back we love you thanks for the support good night grab on peace