Get it Off My Chest starts off the show. (01:25) Mr. Logical reminds us the NBA is not rigged. Two-Five wants more Pacers-Knicks. (05:50) Are the Nuggets done? (10:30) Can the Knicks keep it up? Frank Vogel is gone and Charlotte has a new coach. (54:40) The Joke(r) is on us again. (106:00)
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[00:01:29] Yeah, this is a well traveled topic for me
[00:01:32] I've had this conversation a lot, had it with my pops a couple of times
[00:01:38] You know, cut it out what the league is rigged and they want XYZ match up
[00:01:44] Simply because you are ill informed about the talent on these teams
[00:01:51] And feel like I only want to watch the big names anyway
[00:01:54] So that means that's what the NBA wants
[00:01:57] Because if we think about, they say with football
[00:02:00] Like oh, they want, you know, they want a Rams versus Giants Super Bowl
[00:02:06] Or Jets versus Giants Super Bowl so it's all New York
[00:02:09] And like really?
[00:02:11] I think they would have made that happen by now if that's the case
[00:02:14] Or they want a Lakers Miami matchup every school year
[00:02:17] They want LeBron in the finals every year
[00:02:20] Okay, if that was truly possible, they probably would have done it
[00:02:24] But since they haven't done it, more likely it's impossible
[00:02:27] Don't sit there and try to say the league is rigged and the league wants to do this
[00:02:32] And the league wants to do that because you didn't want to watch Milwaukee versus Phoenix in the NBA finals
[00:02:38] Because you really wanted to see a New York versus LA because you wanted to see that
[00:02:44] Don't try to leverage that responsibility on the leagues and like oh, they wanted this
[00:02:48] And that's why I'm not watching because they were trying to make
[00:02:51] No, you will watch it if you like basketball
[00:02:53] You'd watch the Super Bowl if you like football
[00:02:55] You watch the hockey playoffs if you like hockey baseball whatever the case may be whatever sports you want to watch if you like
[00:03:03] You'll like and watch it stop saying oh they call Vegas and Vegas did this and Vegas did that
[00:03:09] Vegas is getting that money
[00:03:11] They don't need to set anything up because I employ any of you to fly into LAX or fly into SLC
[00:03:19] Get a rental car drive south from Utah or north from LAX and show me anything within a 50 mile radius of Vegas that looks cool
[00:03:30] Nothing now get the Las Vegas all those lights are very bright because they are making plenty of money in the city
[00:03:37] They're not making money off the NBA because if it was rigged
[00:03:40] NBC would be trying to pay 2.5 billion dollars to take the NBA away from TNT
[00:03:46] They don't care how many markets exist. They just want to get this money
[00:03:51] They don't need to set up Dallas versus Miami NBA Finals because it's going to rematch the 2011 and it's the 1513 1220th anniversary whatever
[00:04:02] None of that matters to them they want you to tune in and want you to buy the jersey they want you to buy the apparel
[00:04:07] They want you to pay for this program pay for NBA calmness
[00:04:11] That's it
[00:04:12] There's no incentive for them to try to rigging a set up a certain way because either way we're still paying
[00:04:18] OKC arenas right now is jam-packed not a big market the next game tickets last night $500
[00:04:26] They know do the NBA that's people but selling on seat geek
[00:04:30] It's not rigged. It's just good basketball and we'll talk about the rest and good or bad calls, but they make them on all levels
[00:04:38] So please cut it out do some research before you get all angry with your Twitter fingers
[00:04:45] Just put that into a search engine maybe chat GPT or Grammarly or something
[00:04:51] Text your grandma and see what she thinks of the message you about to put on Twitter
[00:04:56] And then kind of vet it and realize you know what don't press and shout out to her members
[00:05:00] Yeah, I was gonna bring that up because you know Indiana I guess has 78 incorrect calls that they're trying to send up to the NBA office
[00:05:11] You know and they were talking about the last two minute report and the screen on Miles Turner game one was just full of shit at the end of that game
[00:05:22] And everybody was saying or Tibbs he said well show me the first 46 minute report
[00:05:28] So you know
[00:05:30] I like it what a report
[00:05:33] I like
[00:05:35] So, you know keeping it
[00:05:38] And new yow
[00:05:41] You know saying anybody that knows me
[00:05:44] Knows that I'm the oddball that has Reggie Miller is my favorite player of all time
[00:05:50] You know it was because yeah
[00:05:53] It was because I was the little short
[00:05:55] Yeah, I was a little short skinny dude and I had I had to try to find ways to get my shot off
[00:06:02] Because I was never really overly athletic or you know, whatever the case may be I was quick
[00:06:07] But I wasn't jumping out the gym or anything like that. So I had to find ways
[00:06:12] To get that jumper off so I would just run around create my own screen nobody even knew what I was doing
[00:06:18] I would hide behind somebody and then just pop out get to the three point line hit the shot
[00:06:22] And but last night brought back a lot of memories, you know, I thought about winning time the 30 for 30 with Reggie calling the game in the garden last night
[00:06:31] I thought about the John starts headbutt to Reggie Miller. I thought about Reggie Miller and Spike Lee with the choke sign
[00:06:38] You know and just the whole Knicks Pacers
[00:06:42] It was like a lower version of Lakers Celtics from the standpoint of you had the Midwest guys the corn
[00:06:51] Farm guys and you had the big city slickers over in New York
[00:06:56] And it was just this big intense rivalry because Reggie and them felt that they weren't getting the respect they deserved being from Indiana
[00:07:05] So last night brought it back and of course my favorite moment of the game were George Hart walking up to Reggie Miller after the game
[00:07:13] And saying yeah they're screaming fuck you you know me and I was like this is what the NBA needs
[00:07:21] This is what I want when we talk about rivalries when we talk about caring because the fans make the players care in some cases
[00:07:31] So when you so you the Knicks can't play the Pacers in a playoff series without seeing Reggie Miller highlights Reggie Miller videos
[00:07:40] He's villain number one and I'm sure when they get back to Indiana in a few days. There's gonna be some Patrick Ewing videos
[00:07:47] There's gonna be the John starts headbutting Reggie Miller. This is what sports is about for me
[00:07:54] You know this is what I want to see I want more Knicks Pacers
[00:07:59] And when this series is over if the Knicks hold on and they go play Boston
[00:08:04] It's just Boston versus New York again not even Knicks and Celtics Boston versus New York as a staff
[00:08:14] You know saying record labeling is accrued if you down with either one of them, you know
[00:08:19] So this is what it is about I am here for it
[00:08:24] Let's keep it going NBA you cook him with gas right now
[00:08:28] I mean that's that's the beauty part of the sport
[00:08:34] Is just play the game out just play it out enjoy it stop trying to think of some alteria motive going behind it
[00:08:43] The only motive is money in entertainment
[00:08:46] The money comes you show up they get entertainment you spend money while you're watching the game you can make your best as the money part
[00:08:54] But the entertainment is the basketball the entertainment is what Jaylen Brunson is doing and his
[00:09:00] It's his first big-time playoff run
[00:09:06] As the leader of the team the Knicks were two seed in the east granted
[00:09:11] We could talk about if the east was in that the knot
[00:09:14] But this is like a big moment these are big moments that we're gonna like you're gonna debate later
[00:09:20] Like I know currently there's a trade young versus Jaylen Brunson run debate
[00:09:24] These are the kind of moments you need to pay attention to so in three years when you're trying to had this debate
[00:09:30] You don't get egg on your face because you don't really know exactly what happened. You just kind of know the box score
[00:09:36] And now you get you get matched up against someone who really knows what they're talking about
[00:09:41] Now you want to get angry like cuz we're gonna have these debates and barbershops
[00:09:45] We're gonna have them on this podcast the podcast is still gonna be going on
[00:09:49] I mean it's gonna be even bigger by then so you might want to be calling in
[00:09:52] Don't call in wrong because I told you made ninth
[00:09:57] 2024 the highest together. Let me call in me in 2027 talking about yo this happen
[00:10:05] You can do your research
[00:10:08] It's gonna be some new
[00:10:11] Get your stuff together get it together. That's what I do
[00:10:15] So mr. Rutley
[00:10:18] Mr.. Logical I got a question for you listen
[00:10:24] Are the champs done? I
[00:10:29] Don't want to say that done cuz I think that's been like it's kind of overstated because teams have won two games in a row
[00:10:35] Let's think about Minnesota one two games in a row
[00:10:39] It's just not common to lose both games at home
[00:10:43] Now I would say give me the first
[00:10:48] Quarter first half of game three and if they come out flat
[00:10:53] Or if they can handle the pressure defense or
[00:10:58] If the refs call it a little tighter
[00:11:01] They did get a big break because they both ended their series kind of quick
[00:11:04] So they play their game to on Monday
[00:11:07] So now everybody else is catching up and they don't play there, you know their third game until tomorrow
[00:11:12] So they got four days. Well essentially three days without a game in between
[00:11:17] I think that you probably got a rest day on Tuesday
[00:11:20] They probably got a slight practice Wednesday probably a walk through the day be ready for tomorrow
[00:11:25] So if anybody's ailing ankles hamstrings calves or whatever the case may be
[00:11:30] They should be ready to go full and if they come out and they look flat in the first, you know
[00:11:36] Quarter the second quarter
[00:11:38] Then I'd be probably more inclined to say yes
[00:11:41] This might be a wrap because they aren't at disadvantage and so many different positions
[00:11:45] So yeah, it has to go perfectly correct and for that to work
[00:11:51] It has to be Jamal Murray's gonna get off
[00:11:55] Michael Porter. Jesus got a knockdown if you know I sound like three of his first five threes
[00:12:01] Then I guess the defense extended then you can get Eric Gordon in the back side for the lobs and
[00:12:06] Then when they start looking at that then you get KCP open
[00:12:09] So all that can happen for Denver even if Yoke is getting doubled and everything else because you got to stop doubling Yoke
[00:12:17] It's if MPJ is knocking down his J
[00:12:21] But that's all contingent on
[00:12:24] The the others is Charles broccoli calls them
[00:12:27] Knock it on shots and if they if the defense is sticky like it was in game, too
[00:12:32] Yeah, then I don't see how I don't see how you can back that you can't it's not like they missed a bunch of open
[00:12:37] Shots is like they literally couldn't get open shots
[00:12:41] So yeah, they just couldn't get into their offense. I mean like just you know doing my
[00:12:47] Orthodox statistician thing, you know Jamal Mary is shooting 28% from the floor in these two games against Minnesota
[00:12:55] Minnesota shooting 40% from three
[00:12:58] so
[00:12:59] Like when I look at Michael Porter when I look at Michael Porter this series is showing us how limited he really is
[00:13:06] You know if he's not if his shot isn't falling
[00:13:09] What does he offer you? You know like the girl with the pretty face and the nice body. What else she bring into the table
[00:13:17] That's Michael Porter right now the shot ain't falling. He's you
[00:13:21] You know, and you know, everybody's been talking about Yoke itch and how bad he's looked
[00:13:25] I know game one. He still had 32 9 and 8 but he had turnovers
[00:13:30] Which we don't normally see he had 11 he has 11 turnovers in these two games against Minnesota
[00:13:36] That's not normal. You know, so I would imagine
[00:13:39] He plays a little bit better
[00:13:41] But realistically as I look at this with Jamal Mary's the way he's been playing because I mean he didn't play well
[00:13:47] I missed the Lakers before he got hurt. He just hit the shot
[00:13:51] Team collectively didn't play well against the Lakers. They haven't played that well and and that's the thing
[00:13:56] So for me tomorrow night
[00:14:00] Denver's biggest hope is that Minnesota just gets caught up in the emotion
[00:14:05] You know, they get they get home. The crowd is all raucous
[00:14:09] Is Minnesota starting to feel pressure of we got the champs on the ropes? We got to finish this off
[00:14:16] We can't let Denver breathe a little bit
[00:14:18] So Denver does keep it a little close
[00:14:21] At half time late into the third quarter
[00:14:25] This Minnesota panic a little bit not panic from the standpoint of we can't win this game, but are they looking at it like?
[00:14:33] We look we got knock about they supposed to be because look at how we dominated like are they gonna be in their own heads to the point?
[00:14:40] Well, luckily for them defense is their calling card
[00:14:44] So even if you just not fallen you can do that and then you create
[00:14:49] You'll create a couple of turnovers where it gets open dunks or one of the role players gets to steal
[00:14:55] And they get a dunk and you know how it goes when like a role player gets a dunk
[00:15:00] A guy normally doesn't get that kind of action at the rim gets a dunk the crowd really gets into it then
[00:15:06] So I think that's the that's probably the piece that I would say because of that
[00:15:12] Like cuz we're gonna talk about Boston Boston kind of lives and dies with the three
[00:15:18] They don't really press you and turn you over
[00:15:20] They just they stick your two and come back down like I said one of eight guys has a green light if they're open
[00:15:27] Minnesota, they just trap you press you
[00:15:30] They double your best player. They they're just they rotate this
[00:15:34] They just they just do it so well to get the defensive player the year four times defensive player the year
[00:15:38] Who's such a big body on top of cat being a big body Nasri being a big body
[00:15:44] They even have had cow Anderson on yokage when he's at the three point line. So at a minute on you got
[00:15:50] It's kind of slow on slow, but
[00:15:53] It's it's a different body here throw it in
[00:15:57] And this is where guys are in shots and that's when they double them in Dennis when the turnovers come
[00:16:01] And this is where Denver's messing up and coaches outthink themselves
[00:16:05] Because you're behind or you're down or whatever so you think to yourself
[00:16:10] I gotta have my best players out there to do this
[00:16:14] But you're running your best players into the ground as well
[00:16:17] So you still need to find those two to three minutes where you could put a paint Watson in the game
[00:16:23] And like you're talking about maybe he can be that guy that gets the dunk that wicks Denver up
[00:16:29] You know, we saw Reggie Jackson come in but then he hurt his ankle the other day. You know what I mean?
[00:16:35] so like you're not
[00:16:37] You're not playing
[00:16:40] Everybody like if Jamal Mary is going two for eight or whatever
[00:16:44] Sit them down for two to three minutes like you're losing anyway
[00:16:48] Let somebody get in there for a few minutes. Let Jamal get a rest come back do it again
[00:16:53] That's why it was important to at least blow the Lakers out for a couple of games that way you can get these other guys in
[00:16:59] I don't think they ever got anybody in and then in these last two games with Minnesota
[00:17:04] The first game was close so you had to keep everybody out there
[00:17:07] So it was a lot like the Laker series and then the blowout happens
[00:17:11] So you put in the end of the bench
[00:17:13] Those guys aren't their rhythm is irrelevant because none of those guys are gonna get any burning game three
[00:17:20] So essentially you're you're starting from scratch. So they are I think they are behind the hate ball
[00:17:25] They wouldn't surprise me if
[00:17:28] Like I said, I had Minnesota in six anyway just because like I feel the game
[00:17:34] NBA I
[00:17:36] I I like getting a ball down to the big men and
[00:17:41] Working from inside out
[00:17:43] But the way everybody else plays I think Denver what their youth and the speed in the size
[00:17:49] They just match up. It's essentially like having
[00:17:53] Four every Bradley's on the floor with go bear like guys
[00:17:57] They're just that six six six seven rains that are just lengthy defenders that are just all over you
[00:18:03] But everywhere you move the ball a guy like that is out there
[00:18:08] Whereas like, you know, we talked about the Clippers with their oh you got Kauai and Paul George
[00:18:13] Like yeah, but those guys were old when they got together if you give me it's all 22 and 23 year old Paul George and
[00:18:19] 22 23 year old Kauai Leonard. That's what Minnesota has
[00:18:23] It's almost like the reverse of
[00:18:26] Partially partially it's kind of the reverse of how I looked at the NBA finals last year
[00:18:32] You know said it was like, you know, bam was your biggest dude out there
[00:18:36] You know and there wasn't anything you could do
[00:18:39] So so like Denver's in a situation where they ran into the team. That's bigger than them
[00:18:44] You know and Aaron Gordon as good as he is
[00:18:48] It's only six eight or so so, you know
[00:18:52] Like he's 610 and they were like
[00:18:56] NBA 610 so like
[00:18:58] Yeah, I think he's like 68
[00:19:00] Yeah, so so to some degree you can say that him specifically
[00:19:04] He's met his match if you will, you know
[00:19:08] But it all like I said for me it all starts with Michael Porter
[00:19:11] Like he was the one that
[00:19:13] Ignited a lot of those comebacks against the Lakers like with some of the shots that he was hitting not the fact that he was hitting shots
[00:19:19] but he was getting wide open that's because
[00:19:24] Austin Reeves the D Lo
[00:19:27] Rory none of those guys were rotating at the at the pace
[00:19:34] That Minnesota is because even if the Minnesota defender
[00:19:38] isn't there
[00:19:40] Because they rotate so well. It might make him second guess
[00:19:44] You know if Austin Reeves
[00:19:47] Went from the corner to the elbow to help and you get the then Michael Porter
[00:19:52] You're standing in the corner if he gets the pass from Yolkage
[00:19:55] He knows Austin Reeves is not gonna be able to get from that spot to
[00:19:59] Contest his shot at 610 611
[00:20:02] Where as Minnesota guys are getting there to the point where like they could contest it
[00:20:07] So I might he might pump fake
[00:20:08] They're also big enough to do it like the other part of that is that Michael Porter is still
[00:20:14] You know three inches taller than Reeves, you know three four inches taller than Russell
[00:20:20] Austin Reeves 6'5 6'4 6'5 so yeah
[00:20:24] Not only were they not getting there like they still couldn't get their hand in
[00:20:29] The space that it needed to be in you know where's Minnesota just irrelevant
[00:20:35] Yeah, Minnesota's not gonna give you open shots
[00:20:39] Well, I mean a good pass is gonna get an open shot
[00:20:42] But right if if you're only getting if
[00:20:45] If you need six good looks a quarter to get your rhythm
[00:20:51] Minnesota's only give you like two and if you don't knock down one of those two
[00:20:55] Then there's no reason for them to change their defense
[00:20:58] They're like, okay
[00:20:59] We keep doing we doing because the defense has to change it has to it has to sink
[00:21:03] So that Aaron Gordon get to the dunker spot and get his get his eight to twelve
[00:21:09] Points that you didn't expect and he'll get those passes Yolkage
[00:21:13] And normally we don't necessarily talk about bench players being breakout players
[00:21:18] But Nikhil Alexander Walker has been given Minnesota great minutes during these playoffs so far, you know
[00:21:26] But against my better judgment
[00:21:29] You know
[00:21:34] You know today
[00:21:36] They are the champs. We'll see what happens, you know, but keeping it in the West
[00:21:41] You know coming into tonight
[00:21:44] Mr. Donchich
[00:21:46] Was five for 35 from three in the previous four games
[00:21:52] He looks like he's having one of those nights tonight
[00:21:56] Like those new
[00:21:59] He is there up ten
[00:22:02] I think it got
[00:22:04] The last time I saw it was close. It was like 38 37
[00:22:11] Okay, see was down one came down mr. Shot and then I think Luca got the ball Mcgatt in the 40
[00:22:18] but the
[00:22:20] Okay, see Minnesota
[00:22:23] I think Luke I think Dallas and Denver are essentially
[00:22:29] Mirror images and
[00:22:32] Their matchup I think okay see what they do with the depth and the youth
[00:22:37] It's very similar to what Minnesota does not necessarily defensively, but just in fresh bodies
[00:22:44] that can just continually move whereas
[00:22:48] Dallas does a lot through Luca we all everyone's gonna talk about his uses rate
[00:22:53] Then we get it a lot of his assists are off of him dribbling to the paint and like jump passes to guy standing in the corner
[00:23:01] It's effective if Dante X some can go
[00:23:06] Three for six on those opportunities throughout the game or
[00:23:10] Tim a hardaway junior can get you two or three threes
[00:23:17] But that's the thing we talked about this before and I even said this, you know in conversation before
[00:23:24] It's a lot like the Houston James Harden. Houston James Harden was outstanding
[00:23:30] but if
[00:23:32] You need guys to get in a rhythm
[00:23:36] They're not getting a ball
[00:23:38] But you're not of you know that like a pride, you know, you know
[00:23:41] Like a hungry defensive team because like you talked about pick up basketball for me. Like I said same thing
[00:23:46] I'm not very tall five and a half five nine after a good stretch
[00:23:51] Not very very fast. So I would just play tough defense. I think I get a good steal open floor
[00:23:57] Get a good pass off. I was just a good teammate didn't really shoot that well
[00:24:01] I just play very hard defensively to me that turn in offense
[00:24:05] I don't come on to the court and try to fire up shots and get going
[00:24:08] I need to get going by shutting down the other teams point guard. Like that's how I got going well
[00:24:14] Minnesota plays that way
[00:24:16] Dallas doesn't so Dallas those guys get in the rhythm by getting open looks. I
[00:24:22] Mean Gaffer is a hustle guy. He likes to block shots
[00:24:25] But he's only he's only good for you around the rim on each end either rebounding or
[00:24:31] Block rebound and blocking shots layups. He's not gonna be like that dynamic MPJ kind of player
[00:24:37] So with Dallas they got to work everything to Luke or Kyrie
[00:24:41] And when it goes sideways like it's currently going right now
[00:24:45] and
[00:24:46] Now they had like a 15 point lead this guy cut the six
[00:24:50] Yeah
[00:24:52] It's because you know
[00:24:54] Look who just lost the ball now Kyrie has a ball coming up
[00:24:57] That's what Denver looks like against Minnesota and that's what okay. See is going
[00:25:03] Every time I see okay, see take a shot it just looks like it's gonna go in
[00:25:11] You know the main but but yeah, okay C is definitely
[00:25:15] Literally, what what I just said happened he threw that overhand jump pass to the corner
[00:25:22] PJ watch them missed it
[00:25:24] SGA comes down hits door in the corner door makes it so like the way okay C spreads the ball around
[00:25:30] The way those guys shoot with confidence
[00:25:32] That's like their defense on offense because it's the moralized in the Denver
[00:25:36] I mean to Dallas because Dallas can't do the same thing no matter how they try
[00:25:40] And they just lost another turnover and you know
[00:25:45] The sideline look like finger got slapped
[00:25:49] Yeah
[00:25:52] Like okay C is just they're just energetic is basically what it comes down to like Dallas is more sloth like
[00:26:01] You know like Kyrie has the ball. It's a little bit of a different tempo, but when they run their regular offense
[00:26:08] You know Luca likes to
[00:26:11] Set it up as they say dribble to air out the ball
[00:26:14] Yeah, you know, but FGA announced himself in game 1 29 9 and 9
[00:26:19] You know, he's got 18 already in this game. What about two minutes left until half time?
[00:26:26] You know
[00:26:29] He's got eight points in this quarter
[00:26:31] So, you know my voice is all off you can tell you know
[00:26:35] But I guess that that maxi cleaver injury is proven to be big
[00:26:40] You know just like we want to miss a person that's gonna bring value Lou dorks got a style follow now
[00:26:46] But but the problem with the problem with Luca like to keep like to talk about what you were talking about is
[00:26:52] Luca's got some Randy Moss in him
[00:26:55] Like you know when the play isn't for him, you know when
[00:27:00] It's not gonna work out for him and like if Kyrie has the ball and the plan is not to get Luca the ball
[00:27:07] He just kind of sulk's in the corner or he just hangs out
[00:27:11] He doesn't do anything just like Randy Moss at times wouldn't block
[00:27:15] He would just kind of have jog up the field and you knew he wasn't getting the ball
[00:27:19] That's what Luca does. I would give both credit
[00:27:23] You still had to keep two guys over there near Randy just in case and oh, yeah
[00:27:28] You still got it. You still got to keep a guy
[00:27:32] You still got to keep a guy
[00:27:35] Still
[00:27:37] Yeah, yeah, he still requires attention
[00:27:39] We got some we got some conversation with the referees a soft file and then Scott Foster ran in and they're pointing different directions
[00:27:48] But so you know what's funny
[00:27:51] Want to get shadow band?
[00:27:53] Well as well as we're talking about
[00:27:56] Referees, you know, it's funny is last night, you know everybody's talking about these refs in the Knicks
[00:28:02] Pacers series
[00:28:03] Well, you know the ref last night was the ref that Mike Malone ran up on the other night Mark Davis
[00:28:10] So and they called that double dribble on Hartenstein late in the game
[00:28:15] It was a double dribble
[00:28:18] But it was just one of those moments where it was just like Carlisle
[00:28:22] Went back to his plan days with the 80 Celtics and I thought he's gonna clothesline somebody
[00:28:27] But I don't think that the Pacers
[00:28:31] are out of this series and
[00:28:35] It's Tom Timberlost fall because we talked about this, you know Josh Hart
[00:28:42] The lowest minutes he's played in these eight playoff games
[00:28:48] Is 41 this is their second series. This is their second series
[00:28:55] He's already played four complete games
[00:28:59] Including the 53 minute overtime game against Philadelphia. We saw out of no be with the hamstring last night
[00:29:07] We saw Jill and Brunson go back to the locker room for a little bit
[00:29:12] Like are the Knicks gonna make it? Oh?
[00:29:15] Oh
[00:29:17] Looks like we're right on time
[00:29:19] Damn
[00:29:21] Homebridge just smacked his head right off the court like oh
[00:29:25] This is this shoulder
[00:29:28] Yeah, I don't think it was let's see through this shoulder. Oh, yeah. Yep. That was head. Oh
[00:29:35] Yeah, that was oh
[00:29:38] I want that the other angle on that bat of course. I'm sitting here in my game or chair
[00:29:44] But uh, yeah
[00:29:47] The series like I'm literally gonna pull it up and this is the end at the end. You'll see what I mean
[00:29:52] So I got the team stats here. I know team stats on tell the whole story
[00:29:57] but
[00:29:58] These are the basic ones and that can go through like each one
[00:30:02] But like Phil goes percentage three pointers three point percentage free throw free with a percentage
[00:30:08] Total rebounds offensive rebounds offensive rebounds assist block steals whatever turnovers
[00:30:13] Alright points in the paint
[00:30:17] 60 points for Indiana 62 for the Knicks
[00:30:21] Files 17 for Indiana 14 foot of Knicks
[00:30:25] Assist 33 for Indiana 28 foot of Knicks
[00:30:30] Offensive rebounds 14 for Indiana 12 foot of Knicks defensive rebounds
[00:30:35] They got rebounds about it by 12, but the Knicks are a little bigger free throw percentage. They went 10 for 17
[00:30:40] That's 59%
[00:30:43] The Knicks went 18 for 22. That's 82%
[00:30:48] Everything else is even 15 threes for Indiana 14 for 30 for
[00:30:54] For the Knicks
[00:30:56] Everything is even the only difference is this
[00:30:59] One team has a playmaker that in crunch time the ball goes through him and the other team does it
[00:31:08] So the team with the crunch time player doesn't complain about the referees because I have a guy that can isolate or
[00:31:19] What's the word erase a bad call by the rest
[00:31:23] So you get a call where you think it's an legal screen on
[00:31:28] Say they got even chisel for a legal screen
[00:31:32] Timberdose not gonna lose his mind because he knows when I get the ball back
[00:31:36] I got Jalen Brunson
[00:31:40] Indiana's losing their minds over the referees because they don't have a guy that can
[00:31:46] Wash out
[00:31:48] Whatever the calls are that's why they have the number of bad calls in her head like what are you expecting?
[00:31:55] Are you expecting 29 different foul calls or different times of whistles should have blown and
[00:32:02] last nice game
[00:32:04] Like look how many times the whistle did blow head of a 31 files
[00:32:08] It was 18 turnovers like the whistles blowing all the time. So you wanted 30 additional things called
[00:32:16] in a
[00:32:17] In a 48 minute game. That's what you're telling me because
[00:32:21] You had these same referees when you were up 16 and there was no Jalen Brunson on the floor
[00:32:27] And we can talk about this small market teams need a break, you know rake or whatever
[00:32:31] We needed we got you know with a little guy. Let's run down our top 10 markets the United States media markets
[00:32:38] We probably are another men order, but we got New York LA Chicago Philly Dallas Houston, Boston DC, San Francisco now
[00:32:46] How many of these teams in any sport?
[00:32:49] Last time LA you got the Rams. They won a Super Bowl
[00:32:52] But they almost gave that away to San Francisco with the jacarcy, you know the Tart drop
[00:32:59] Dropping the pick. Yeah, the Clippers never won one LeBron has been on the Lakers for about seven seasons
[00:33:07] They got one but they played oh they played all the games in Florida
[00:33:12] But and they've been a competitive team Chicago
[00:33:17] 70s Chicago we know last time they won a championship
[00:33:22] Mmm-hmm
[00:33:24] Philly you got
[00:33:29] Dallas one in it 2011
[00:33:31] But we have a lot of teams like the cleanly have a lear is one and I guess you can give Golden State San Francisco
[00:33:38] But it's not because they are trying to that's that's still 10. That's still the 10th major
[00:33:43] One
[00:33:46] One these the DC's one of the worst teams in the league every year like the last 10 years
[00:33:52] So stop saying small markets because when this small market team had a guy named
[00:33:59] LeBron they did just fine this small market team out in Missouri
[00:34:04] They're doing just fine with their guy that they have you don't have a guy
[00:34:10] Houston is not that big of a market, but they got there. They had their guy James Harden
[00:34:15] They were on TV all the time. They were competing all the time
[00:34:20] Oklahoma City how big is that market guys are talking about Oklahoma
[00:34:25] Tiny Oklahoma every scene Oklahoma tiny
[00:34:29] Green market in the league with New Orleans and
[00:34:34] Memphis yeah, but you gotta have the guy to compete
[00:34:39] So it's not like the the NBA does not need
[00:34:44] Boston versus New York. We're going to watch anyway. It's still people probably not watching the games
[00:34:50] They're just talking about the stat line
[00:34:58] But what I'm saying is like if the NBA wanted big markets to succeed for instance
[00:35:05] Zion would have been been a Nick
[00:35:08] If it was set up for big markets to succeed
[00:35:13] Zion the Knicks would have gotten that first pick the way they got Patrick you and
[00:35:22] Well, it helps now because they have that
[00:35:24] You know where your current team can give you the biggest contract
[00:35:28] So that's definitely helped a lot of that but the problem like you said the Pacers don't have that like see how comes the champion
[00:35:35] But he's not that kind of player
[00:35:37] You know how a bird
[00:35:40] Minute and a half left and you know like he's gonna get me six points if we get two stops
[00:35:45] Yeah, Halliburton came through in the first half yesterday
[00:35:49] Denny pulled his disappearing act and
[00:35:52] He wasn't there when they needed the most but he's also not that type of player like he's more Chris Paul than he is say I
[00:36:00] Don't know like a Russell Westbrook type. You know or De'Aaron Fox type
[00:36:05] So he's not that guy that you can rely on in that moment
[00:36:08] But what the Pacers do have going back to what I was talking about earlier with Denver
[00:36:14] They're getting really good minutes out of TJ McConnell and Obi-Tah
[00:36:18] And they're just not playing them enough
[00:36:21] You know those two guys whenever they come on the court they give Indiana their spark
[00:36:28] You know, they they're very efficient
[00:36:31] But when the game is on the line, he won't tinker with the lineup and I'm not saying that they got to play the whole fourth quarter
[00:36:39] But just play in a little bit more of the leverage moments. You're down O2
[00:36:45] So at this point you're going home
[00:36:47] The Knicks are beat up
[00:36:50] You know going back to the attrition thing, you know, oh, gee out of nobie. I'm assuming is not gonna play game three
[00:36:56] You know out Luca just took a shot trying to take a block
[00:37:03] Yeah, see some blood he's probably
[00:37:06] like like some kind of
[00:37:09] metal sleeve thing is probably just poked through
[00:37:13] yeah, but but
[00:37:15] you know the Pacers are in a position to where
[00:37:20] They can come back to New York to to
[00:37:23] They just have to clean up a few things because like you said 10 for 17 from the free throw aligning gonna get it done at this stage
[00:37:33] Seven foot 11 and he's 18 to 20 feet from the hoop the entire game
[00:37:40] The Knicks have no size inside that
[00:37:43] Preston so Choa was out there
[00:37:46] We'll call them six
[00:37:49] I think he's I think they let I think they say six eight, but I don't know
[00:37:55] I was reading has some kind of Achilles injury, you know like attended injury so like
[00:38:01] He's a big guy and he has to run that he has to run a big out there because mouse
[00:38:07] You know say in the middle of the game like he's doing capri's so like that's the problem, right?
[00:38:12] We talk about this wouldn't be right
[00:38:14] The Knicks we were telling the Knicks go at him and that's kind of what I'm telling the Pacers go at the Knicks
[00:38:21] These dudes are tired
[00:38:26] Knicks could have gone small in a couple of those games and those two games they lost the Philly
[00:38:32] They probably could have gone small
[00:38:34] Gone at in bead for the whole like a whole quarter
[00:38:39] Just go at him the whole third quarter come out
[00:38:41] You think he's fresh coming out of second half
[00:38:44] Exhaust him in the third quarter just running at him running at him and the you probably would have been up
[00:38:49] 12 to 14
[00:38:50] Maybe you can put Jalen Brunson on the bench for three or four minutes because then bees gonna be exhausted
[00:38:56] It's like you got it's like you gotta play chess sometimes
[00:38:59] I know your strategy might be just we're just gonna go go go go go gonna run our offense
[00:39:03] But it's like also, you know what let's take advantage of this this this this came up right now
[00:39:10] Jay leg okay with indiana jalen Brunson didn't play the whole second quarter
[00:39:14] This is our time to either
[00:39:18] Go at diva chenzo
[00:39:20] offensively or
[00:39:21] On the defensive end and just go at him or when he has the ball on the offensive end
[00:39:27] Flood guys at him defensively just exhaust the other best option that they have
[00:39:33] I think they just kind of went with we're just gonna run our offense and we're gonna get our points
[00:39:37] But it's like you know tim doesn't rest his guys his other primary ball handler scores in the locker room
[00:39:44] I'm running two guys at josh hard every time he has the ball because he's not a true point guard. He's a hustle guard
[00:39:51] He's not even a student
[00:39:53] That's insane. He's playing well with the playoffs, but that's not his name
[00:39:57] He's a hustler. That's a travel that he's a he's just he's a hustle player
[00:40:02] Which is perfect when you have diva chenzo and brunson on the floor doing a thing, but when you lose one of them
[00:40:09] Adjust make some they kept trapping jail and brunson
[00:40:14] Who's not gonna make the bad like they trapped jalen brunson
[00:40:17] Hardest time went to the top of the key got the pass got the diva chenzo
[00:40:21] Then chenzo got it to somebody in the corner whoever was in the corner
[00:40:25] for an open three
[00:40:26] And I think it was reggie miller saying like either you got to trap him
[00:40:31] all the way up the court
[00:40:33] or
[00:40:34] don't do it
[00:40:35] Because they see it coming because he even was dribbling to the silent. I'm like, I don't know why guys dribble to the sideline
[00:40:41] But it was to set up
[00:40:43] the stretch
[00:40:46] Like why you dribble to the sideline? But I think the point was to pull everybody out
[00:40:51] To get harton stine by himself in the middle that way if he caught the ball
[00:40:55] If he caught it on the sideline like if you he threw it from the middle to the sideline of harton stine
[00:41:00] I think he might bobble it like yo, let's I can handle a ball here. Let me get to here
[00:41:04] They're gonna run this they're gonna, you know press and show with whoever is guarding josh heart
[00:41:10] Let me get the ball in the middle
[00:41:11] We get it over here get it over here and that was that was the move
[00:41:15] And that's kind of the problem with indiana is that like uh, like mike is saying
[00:41:20] You know, uh pascal siacum erin e smith. These are guys that we think of as like
[00:41:26] You know shooters, you know what I mean? But like
[00:41:30] Indiana's not a good shooting team. They just shoot a lot
[00:41:34] They run and they shoot a lot so they kill you with volume
[00:41:38] More than they do with actual daggers or
[00:41:42] Efficiency or anything like that. So that's where like for me. I'm like, yo these dudes are tired like
[00:41:48] Josh Hart like I just said
[00:41:49] But he's they played eight playoff games. He's played four full playoff games every minute
[00:41:56] Maybe tibs doesn't have practice
[00:41:59] Maybe he just does walk through because that's always been my argument for a little management. It's like, well
[00:42:05] You got a guy playing a 48 minute game and I get it like
[00:42:08] The way they move I'll never be able to match how hard they play and how fast they play an NBA game
[00:42:14] But I imagine if you didn't go
[00:42:18] More than a walk through in practice if you just had guys show up
[00:42:23] Go through the plays walk through shoot open threes
[00:42:27] Get stressed by the trainer
[00:42:29] And for your role players like, you know
[00:42:31] If somebody wanted to get some work like you trying to work a guy back from injury like
[00:42:35] You're like, hey tj mcconnell was out for a little bit. Let's get some three on three over
[00:42:41] Let's let's get some three on three out here so we can you know get him ready
[00:42:45] But I don't need my starters. I'd like if i'm the clippers. I don't need to know if kawaii lenert is ready to go
[00:42:53] Via practice. I know he's ready to go
[00:42:56] So to mike's point
[00:42:59] The last player
[00:43:02] To play four full playoff games
[00:43:05] And the first eight games of a playoff run
[00:43:08] Is jimmy butler on the bulls back
[00:43:14] Oh timido
[00:43:15] Yeah timido, that's just hey, it's what he does and he still ain't learned yet. boston has still not learned
[00:43:23] That when you're shooting eight for 35 from three
[00:43:28] You might want to pull up you might want to take an elbow shot
[00:43:32] You might want to go to the basket if you're six foot ten because jason takin them came and tonight
[00:43:37] Shootin 41 percent overall 25 from three
[00:43:42] And this is a guy that people wanted in the mvp conversation
[00:43:46] You know which just shows you that he doesn't have to be because they beat miami and five
[00:43:52] You know they dominated cleveland the other day
[00:43:55] You know so why wouldn't they dominate cleveland tonight besides the fact they didn't
[00:44:00] well because I
[00:44:01] I said I said why they
[00:44:04] would
[00:44:05] What kind of game boston was gonna have we could check the tape is on the internet. It's live it was recorded
[00:44:13] They're gonna have I was like they're gonna have a game where they go like nine for 40 from three
[00:44:18] instead of just
[00:44:20] stopping
[00:44:21] Getting to the rim
[00:44:22] Getting some easy buckets putting the pressure on the other team
[00:44:25] They'll shoot the three so I was playing golf
[00:44:28] I came back started watching the game before I had to take shower and watch this east coast piling off
[00:44:33] Because it gets in everything as you know
[00:44:36] I think my fingernails are yellow pollen is everywhere. Just watched my car
[00:44:40] At lunch time. It was already dirty by the time I got to the golf course at four o'clock
[00:44:45] so
[00:44:47] I watched derek white was hot for the last few games he had like 23s unless two or three games or something like that
[00:44:52] Some some crazy streak
[00:44:55] So I think cleveland went up five in the early in the third and then
[00:45:01] They went up seven
[00:45:03] I think boston cut it to two
[00:45:06] And then donovan michael got like five points back to back it went back to seven
[00:45:10] You know mazula caused a timeout. They come out of the timeout
[00:45:15] pick and roll
[00:45:17] Horford three pick and roll
[00:45:20] Derek right three pick and roll
[00:45:23] Tatum gets to the
[00:45:25] Tatum gets the ball into you know at the uh the free throw line extended
[00:45:29] With garland on him two dribbles turns
[00:45:33] Lay up five
[00:45:34] I'm like, okay. We saw that that didn't work. So then richard jefferson said
[00:45:39] That's what I need to see from taeum all the time. He's bigger than 95 of the guys who guard him next possession
[00:45:46] Jalen brown gets the ball
[00:45:54] Okay
[00:45:56] He's good
[00:46:00] You gotta like see me these messages you gave me i'm in my groove. Yeah, so jalen brown gets the ball
[00:46:06] Same thing shash not falling
[00:46:08] He's probably bigger than 90 of the guys that try to defend him
[00:46:12] Gets to the paint lay up what they do next three or four possessions three three three three
[00:46:18] I come back. They had
[00:46:21] Derek white
[00:46:22] Jason Tatum
[00:46:25] cornet
[00:46:27] Howzer
[00:46:28] and pritchett on the floor
[00:46:30] And they were trying to start garland mobley michael
[00:46:35] I think tristan's house was on the floor. I'm like who puts this lineup out there
[00:46:42] Mitchell was attacking howzer. I'm like, why is he on the floor? Like what are you doing?
[00:46:48] So like like I said, I'm gonna keep my pick for right now as obviously I got boss in the five in this series
[00:46:55] But man, like if this mazula guy doesn't figure out that like
[00:46:59] analytics versus common sense
[00:47:05] You know, you know, what's funny though, because you know, I always like to look at these little dumb things
[00:47:10] so
[00:47:11] Boston is already lost
[00:47:14] Two home playoff games
[00:47:17] There's something they lost
[00:47:20] They lost four home games all regular season this year
[00:47:24] So in less than two weeks, they've already lost half as many home games
[00:47:30] They lost the south over
[00:47:32] In 41 games
[00:47:34] So, you know, if this series comes back
[00:47:38] to boston
[00:47:40] To to
[00:47:43] Oh my
[00:47:44] Lord
[00:47:45] It's gonna make a lot of
[00:47:47] It's it's a lot of people like listen, I'm not a person. I'm not an anti jason tatum
[00:47:52] But I think jason tatum is one of the top players in the league
[00:47:56] I just think and we talked about this in our pre-meeting. I want to kind of articulate this as best I can
[00:48:01] I think we we ranked these players
[00:48:05] Based off of the box score
[00:48:07] I test box score
[00:48:09] so
[00:48:11] Kevin DeRance the top 15 player in the league
[00:48:14] Kyrie's the top 20 player in the league, you know
[00:48:18] Steph is still top 10 in the league
[00:48:24] All these guys in but what you fail to kind of realize that the mentality
[00:48:31] Is what keeps a guy like paul george outside of the top 20 consistently
[00:48:38] Tatum the same thing we talked about the the last time they were in the NBA finals
[00:48:44] At home up to one on golden state chance to crush the dynasty
[00:48:50] And you let Steph go for 43 granted. He can't guard stuff all game long
[00:48:55] But in that moment, you got to be paul pierce
[00:48:59] paul pierce essentially sent lebron to miami
[00:49:03] with
[00:49:04] Like 44 points lebron. I think lebron had like 45 43 or 45
[00:49:10] It was back and forth in that eastern conference. I believe it was a semi final
[00:49:13] I don't think it was a final like each conference semi finals
[00:49:16] but
[00:49:17] He knew lebron was going to come out there and give try to give him 40
[00:49:21] So paul pierce like cool. I'm gonna give you this 40 right back to see what the rest of these dudes can do
[00:49:26] Tatum needs to have that moment
[00:49:29] Jaylin brunch is having those moments and b put 50 on them. I think he still had like 39 that game
[00:49:35] And then he came back with the 40s and 40s in the 40s
[00:49:39] Anthony Edwards the same way you got kevin diran who's capable of going off if you wanted to
[00:49:45] So he was like i'ma do it before you even get a chance. He did the same thing game one against Denver
[00:49:51] I'm going off for this 40 plus like i'm going to put the team on my back and I think jason taylor
[00:49:57] Oralize you I'm gonna make you
[00:50:01] I'm gonna make your defensive assistant coaches stay up all night long
[00:50:06] For the next two nights trying to figure out how to stop me with jason taylor
[00:50:10] He just lets him off the hook. He takes a lot of step back threes. He takes a lot of tough
[00:50:14] Contested jump shots. I'm like, yo, just get to the free throw line with the guy who's probably guarding you
[00:50:20] We're gonna go jason six eight
[00:50:24] You probably getting guarded by at six five
[00:50:27] Six he's probably getting guarded a lot of times. He's running into a coro
[00:50:32] You know to be there's times that he's running into mulbly on a switch
[00:50:36] And and mulbly mulbly has a length in that point call the clear out like y'all call the iso
[00:50:42] Dame litter style like some the way james hard to play some of these guys just had the mentality that put them up there
[00:50:49] And I know we wanted we could talk about jason taylor's like yo his numbers are this you should have been in
[00:50:53] MVP conversation
[00:50:55] uh
[00:50:57] But you gotta have mentality to go along with
[00:51:00] The these mythical accolades that people are giving you and some guys having and some guys don't
[00:51:06] He might not be one of those guys
[00:51:08] Right
[00:51:09] And and that's where we are, you know, I like jason taylor
[00:51:13] but and i'm not even saying that I need to see more like from the standpoint of
[00:51:19] You haven't done anything
[00:51:21] But I just need to see you put your stamp on it like I know you had the game seven against philly last year
[00:51:27] You know what I mean, but like I but in these moments
[00:51:31] That's the 50 point game, right?
[00:51:33] Yeah, yeah, yeah, like I always talk about james harden
[00:51:36] And what I always say is like
[00:51:39] You can't let your team go
[00:51:41] In miss 27 straight threes like granted you didn't miss all 27 of them
[00:51:47] You know what I mean, but there has to be a conversation. There has to be a moment
[00:51:51] After 17 after after 12th straight you gotta be like all right these next five possessions of mine y'all get to
[00:51:58] That's why I always tell people like
[00:52:01] Even without chris paul
[00:52:04] If the rockets just missed 21 straight threes instead of 27
[00:52:09] They probably beat the greatest team of all time or whatever. Yeah, you know what I mean like it was that close
[00:52:14] pump if they pump faked eight times
[00:52:18] And got layups that's 16 points. They would have had versus the zero they got going
[00:52:24] You know missing 27 straight, which is like why blowing for a team that shot nothing but threes the whole time
[00:52:30] But yeah, you got it. You got to have that killer got it. You got to have that killer in you
[00:52:34] Sometimes and I think you got to have it. You got to have it in those moments
[00:52:38] Like I said when stuff had it stuff had in game four
[00:52:41] Like listen we down to one watch what I do
[00:52:44] I need I need that kind of game from tatum. I need it. I need to in game three of this series
[00:52:50] Like I need him to put 40. I need to put up to 24 shots
[00:52:55] I need you get I need you 40 to 45 points
[00:52:59] like I need you to have one of those games where it's like
[00:53:03] Bigger staff is like, yo, like I mean we could put six guys out there
[00:53:06] Like I need I need you to I need you to take their heart out. I think they're hard out of them on their floor
[00:53:13] You know what I mean? It then you know, but you know what I heard tip from the tip. Yeah pause
[00:53:19] You know what I heard
[00:53:23] That this is available
[00:53:25] I heard that the one and only washington wizards
[00:53:30] Maybe looking into hiring darvin ham
[00:53:37] And this is why you're the wizards for the fact that you're even having this conversation
[00:53:42] Meanwhile charlotte has went and hired charles lee
[00:53:45] From the boston seltix 39 years old
[00:53:49] You know, he's been an assistant for about 10 years now
[00:53:52] Milwaukee, atlanta
[00:53:54] and now boston
[00:53:56] He's going to take over charlotte. So I like it from the standpoint of
[00:54:00] young coach coming from winning franchises
[00:54:04] On time lines with you know, you just got brandy miller this year. So you don't expect charlotte
[00:54:12] To be a contender or even probably make the playoffs next year
[00:54:16] So, you know, you have that opportunity because they allegedly wanted coach voodoo and hoser as well
[00:54:23] But obviously like
[00:54:24] voodoo and hoser is not going to take that job
[00:54:27] You yes, certain jobs that are available are going to not require because I don't think that's a great word
[00:54:35] You're gonna get a young coach
[00:54:37] The wizards to be a team looking to get
[00:54:40] an assistant from okc an assistant from
[00:54:45] uh
[00:54:46] Minnesota
[00:54:47] Or minnesota something like that like a young a young guy to grow with the your program
[00:54:54] Um frank vogue will lost his job
[00:54:57] um because the billionaire
[00:55:00] Wants to microwave a championship has no idea how to do it
[00:55:04] I did want to give the coach the point guard that he asked for
[00:55:07] Which is like it's like saying hey, I need a center
[00:55:10] Nah, we just want to have his guard play center and he'll just have to figure it out like no like get me a guy to play center
[00:55:18] Like even if they would have got like a
[00:55:21] Gafford level player or like like as a point guard though like a guard like if they would have got like a
[00:55:29] They could
[00:55:33] Jones I think he might still be available. I don't know if men I think he's might not he got traded from well
[00:55:39] He was with washington this year. So, you know, um
[00:55:42] It is little brother place for the spurs. So like, you know, you could have got one of those two
[00:55:48] And he has the extra point guard. They could have spared you
[00:55:52] Or yeah, you could have went against him hard, you know to be just somebody that plays defense and doesn't make bad decisions with the ball
[00:56:00] You know, uh, I think these guys think it's this is mba2k and it's like
[00:56:05] no
[00:56:06] that's that it's
[00:56:09] Some of these jobs even with the superstars
[00:56:12] I don't know if they're worth it
[00:56:15] unless you have
[00:56:17] Unless you're a guy like doc rivers boot no, sir. A guy who's either wanted championship
[00:56:22] Been around for a while
[00:56:25] has
[00:56:26] you know, like stand-in gun D kind of like
[00:56:29] You know respect around the league, you know between front offices and tv something like that
[00:56:34] because it's just not it's not worth it for a young guy like uh
[00:56:39] What's unsold? No, no, what's the siloce?
[00:56:43] When he got the job in houston and all of a sudden james hardon didn't want to be there
[00:56:46] The marcus cousins are like they had john wall just getting paid 40 million to wear sweatsuits
[00:56:52] I'm only thinking tired of shoes shoes up that whole season. It's like that's not the team you want
[00:56:58] Let me get
[00:57:00] Not necessarily like a rebuild but like
[00:57:03] chicago
[00:57:04] Let me if I want to be a new coach and me to team like chicago, maybe atlanta
[00:57:10] Now orlando now they're doing pretty well
[00:57:14] Um new warlands not because you kind of have expectations because of the talent you have at least a
[00:57:20] You know perceived talent
[00:57:22] Like Detroit mighty wames are the great job taking Detroit
[00:57:26] because
[00:57:28] If you sat in the medium was like our you know
[00:57:31] The gm the player personnel owners like yeah, we want to fire him
[00:57:36] And they're like, okay. Did you think this team was better than our record and how many more games do you think
[00:57:43] We should have won
[00:57:45] If the number is not 30
[00:57:48] Like I think we could have gone 58 and like no no no you weren't gonna go 58 24 with that Detroit lineup
[00:57:55] So run it back one more year
[00:57:57] But if he was coaching phoenix this year and they would have gone
[00:58:01] Like the what I projected at 37 and 45 then it's like, okay. We have too much talent for you to go that record
[00:58:08] Volga wasn't in that position. I just think that
[00:58:12] Phoenix is in a position where
[00:58:14] The owner knows because he's a smart businessman
[00:58:17] You don't make billions of dollars by being an incompetent businessman
[00:58:21] He knows there's not a lot of guys money
[00:58:24] And they're not performing. I need somebody get somebody
[00:58:27] I hear you correctly say earlier that uh
[00:58:31] The Lakers should call Craig mogul
[00:58:34] You listen man swallow your pride swallow your pride because
[00:58:38] You you can't bring in
[00:58:40] Like I said, you can't bring in a coach
[00:58:44] LeBron is gonna be 40
[00:58:47] This year
[00:58:48] Yes, he's currently 39
[00:58:51] You can't bring in a guy
[00:58:55] In his
[00:58:56] 30s
[00:58:59] who was 10
[00:59:01] When LeBron started in the NBA
[00:59:04] and expect
[00:59:06] That roster that they currently have in this coach that is
[00:59:11] Eight years older than one of the bronze kids
[00:59:15] to like
[00:59:16] be
[00:59:17] impactful
[00:59:19] You got to go get you got either call Frank Volga like listen
[00:59:25] To Phoenix owes you the next three years
[00:59:28] 12 million dollars or say they own 15 million dollars in the next three years
[00:59:34] We'll give you
[00:59:36] 18 million over the next three
[00:59:39] Sorry for firing you a couple of years ago
[00:59:42] but
[00:59:43] We need to try to run it back. We got
[00:59:46] One year left around years 31 million
[00:59:49] So he's getting six and some change
[00:59:52] So that means he's getting 24 million
[00:59:57] Cool, we're gonna give you 28 over the next
[01:00:00] We'll give you 21 over the next three
[01:00:06] What do you say?
[01:00:08] I say say oh, we ho oh wrong. Oh never mind
[01:00:12] um
[01:00:14] Yeah, um, but no, I mean I don't I'm not advocating for the move
[01:00:19] I right I just know if you bring in budin hoser
[01:00:23] Because you got to bring in an old head you got to bring in somebody that's ready to cash in a 401k
[01:00:28] Somebody with some grandkids. You can't bring in a guy who could have
[01:00:34] You can't bring in a guy that was standing in line to get LeBron's autograph
[01:00:38] After he was a rookie in the NBA already like you just can't bring that guy in it just doesn't it just doesn't
[01:00:44] Former LeBron teammate
[01:00:47] That LeBron's hosting a podcast with yeah
[01:00:50] I don't even bring that true thing if you want if you want JJ on the staff
[01:00:55] That way
[01:00:58] You have to take over when it's over
[01:01:00] He can either take over or he could just be another voice that kind of explains what's going on
[01:01:07] Maybe I don't I don't know about that, but you're not gonna get a guy like Jason K
[01:01:11] You're not gonna get tylu
[01:01:14] Um, you're not gonna get
[01:01:16] You're not gonna get a season guy that LeBron respects because of just either they're hired somewhere else or you passed on them before
[01:01:25] Right calling Frank Vogel. I wouldn't I would not
[01:01:31] I wouldn't say if i'm polinka or genie bus or linda rambas or whoever's calling the shots in LA
[01:01:37] I wouldn't
[01:01:39] Completely rule it out
[01:01:40] Because I think it has to be on your list plan D if it's on there, but it has to be on your list
[01:01:46] What other jobs are there any other jobs that you think are gonna come open?
[01:01:51] You said something the other day about bickerstaff coaching for his
[01:01:57] His job
[01:01:58] Yeah, and if he loses I think that's like I don't want to make everything in the LA talk where we just talk about the coaches at
[01:02:05] Open spots. I think he would probably be good in phoenix
[01:02:10] Because like I say he's a season guy grizzly guy salt and pepper beard you just
[01:02:14] Sometimes you just need
[01:02:16] Like just a season old head. I say it all the time I work because I'm probably one of the oldest people in my building
[01:02:23] Because there's all is like probably five or six civilians. I'm probably
[01:02:27] I'm probably the youngest civilian, but as far as the military people
[01:02:31] I don't think there's any I don't think there's anybody in there over 40
[01:02:33] That's done over like 20 years except for the guard people
[01:02:36] So like I always been like listen, I've been doing this for 24 years. I've seen how this works in multiple different places
[01:02:43] So
[01:02:44] I don't panic when is getting closer crunch time because like I've seen what the air force can do
[01:02:51] When it's like we got to go in 72 hours
[01:02:54] I've seen us pack up get uniforms get boots. We weren't fully fully fully prepared, but we got the guitar
[01:03:02] I got my distraction they taste later, but like when it when it's time when the rubber meets the road
[01:03:06] I know and that's why I tell them let go calm down
[01:03:09] We'll all figure this out
[01:03:11] Waivers will be signed if necessary. We'll make it all work. You need an old head like that
[01:03:16] You need someone who can sit at the podium after you go you lose three games in a row in the third game is to detroit
[01:03:22] And not panic
[01:03:25] I think someone's season can do that
[01:03:28] Well, I guess the league panic then they gave mr. Yokic another mvp
[01:03:34] I mean
[01:03:38] Considering that the mvp conversation starts
[01:03:43] June the season before uh, it's it's it doesn't shock me
[01:03:49] because
[01:03:52] Like next year it'll be ant jaylon brunson sga
[01:03:57] Yeah, those gonna be your top three guys
[01:04:00] You ready for this list?
[01:04:06] Bill russell
[01:04:09] wilts chamberland
[01:04:10] kareem ebdo jabar
[01:04:13] moses malone
[01:04:14] larry burr magic johnson michael jordan labrón james
[01:04:18] Guys with three more mvps
[01:04:20] Yep, and now nicole yokic
[01:04:26] I don't think it's as
[01:04:29] Because i'm trying to i'm trying to figure it out
[01:04:33] I
[01:04:38] I think what he does because it's so effortless and it doesn't look the same
[01:04:45] But it looks
[01:04:48] I think it looks better than what lucas does
[01:04:52] Because it looks like lucas just dribbles up the air out of the ball
[01:04:56] Is he gonna meet him at the rim?
[01:04:59] Do with the bump he just kind of dribbles the air out of the ball
[01:05:03] I think Denver being the reigning
[01:05:05] champ
[01:05:09] sga being this kind of like
[01:05:12] This is breakout year because I think last year was probably closest breakout year
[01:05:18] Um, I just I just feel like the voting
[01:05:25] Community maybe they're just lazy
[01:05:28] Maybe they don't know i'm trying i'm trying to i'm trying to i get i know it's live
[01:05:32] And what I gotta know is this I don't think that everybody who votes knows basketball
[01:05:40] Well, I was gonna get to that. I got another best. I'm trying to get the best narrative
[01:05:44] I think they just try to vote the narrative that makes sense
[01:05:50] Storyline wise like reality
[01:05:53] I got another list for you
[01:05:56] These are the things some of the things some of the things
[01:06:01] That yokich led the mba in this year
[01:06:04] Which just means that somebody sat around
[01:06:08] doing calculus
[01:06:10] Right here. It's here
[01:06:13] pr
[01:06:16] win shares
[01:06:18] offensive win shares
[01:06:20] win shares per 48 minutes
[01:06:23] box plus minus
[01:06:25] Offensive box plus minus defensive box plus minus and value over replacement
[01:06:32] Now, I don't know what half of those mean
[01:06:37] It's stupid value
[01:06:39] Yeah, I'm a starter to do it on the bench is not going to be that close to me
[01:06:44] It's not me guys who if i'm dropping 30. It's not a dude that replaces me that's going to get you 26
[01:06:52] somebody
[01:06:54] Somebody that was born with their differential equations
[01:06:58] Decided to calculate all this and say I hate this is what yokich provides, you know to me
[01:07:06] Like I said before I thought jaylon brunson was the MVP what I don't want to do what I don't want to do
[01:07:12] Is I don't want to turn the regular season award into a playoff thing where the nuggets are down o2 right now
[01:07:20] Yeah
[01:07:22] Yeah, I don't want to do that thing
[01:07:24] But we were saying this two months ago that he wasn't the mvp
[01:07:29] He's putting up numbers as he always does. I don't think he's doing anything outside of the norm
[01:07:34] That we saw him do any of his other mvp seizes. So that's the case then
[01:07:41] I mean realistically of the candidates
[01:07:45] It should have been sga in my opinion
[01:07:48] um
[01:07:50] Just because I talked about how luka didn't really turn it on as far as
[01:07:54] He was doing the same things but the team wasn't winning until they made the trades
[01:07:58] So that was my knock on you
[01:08:01] You know, I mean sga. I didn't want to just simply go with
[01:08:06] Hey, they won the number one seed. He's dmvp
[01:08:10] Even though considering who he plays for and where they came from
[01:08:14] Definitely an archer for years that was literally that was that was like I said just finished my degree
[01:08:24] For years
[01:08:26] That was the criteria. So
[01:08:30] I've had a bachelor's degree
[01:08:32] master's degree
[01:08:33] My final paper project or exam
[01:08:37] My school my school went by a thousand points per semester
[01:08:42] assignments were either 50 25 40 whatever but all equals a thousand
[01:08:46] Almost every single one of my class the final
[01:08:50] paper or the final
[01:08:53] exam
[01:08:54] Was 250 points
[01:08:57] Back in the day being the best player on the number one seed that was 250 points at this thousand point pot
[01:09:05] Right it changed when devin booker was the best player on phoenix a few years back
[01:09:14] And it went to yoke itch and I remember they asked somebody he was like
[01:09:18] Every year that I can remember
[01:09:21] That was it the best player and and on top of that his numbers were very good. I don't know the time
[01:09:27] I remember I remember in that when he said that I was like
[01:09:30] He is right
[01:09:32] But I was thinking like you know what maybe it shouldn't be that
[01:09:35] I'm kind of leaning back like to like maybe it should be like that should be the first thing
[01:09:40] Not your win shares like how many wins does your team have how many how many nights do they rely on you to be the
[01:09:48] best player
[01:09:50] on that team
[01:09:52] If that happens
[01:09:54] Every night you play and you play
[01:09:58] 70 games 72 games
[01:10:01] And you're you're I think the only thing should really matter is like when you're on the floor your point you
[01:10:07] Plus minus
[01:10:09] If they can't put you on the bench a la and bead in the playoffs
[01:10:14] If you go to the bench up 12 and you get back in the game down to
[01:10:20] night in and night out
[01:10:22] And you still come back and win those games and you're averaging
[01:10:25] 38 and 8
[01:10:28] That's the kind of stuff that makes you a VP
[01:10:31] Like that that's a real basketball analysis. It's not an analytic space
[01:10:36] It's like every time this guy goes to the bench his team loses whatever lead he establish whether six points
[01:10:42] 16 points 10 points
[01:10:45] By the time he gets back in the game after a two to three minute break
[01:10:49] The lead is either dwindle down or completely gone
[01:10:53] Yeah, like last night like obviously like I said, I don't want to turn it into a playoff award
[01:10:58] But like last night the nix was down 16
[01:11:01] You know, they jailing bros that comes back in they win. He's got 24 of his 29 in the second half
[01:11:09] You know to be like so like yeah, like I just don't know
[01:11:13] Like year to year it's going to be different like there's difference in there like we talked about yonis
[01:11:18] He had the best season of his career this year
[01:11:21] If mo walkie wasn't going through a lot of the things that they were going through
[01:11:25] I would have probably been advocating for him because on some he's won MVP before
[01:11:31] But now he's having a better season than he had
[01:11:35] In those MVP seasons the MVP season that he had the first year that yokez wanted
[01:11:43] Yonis's numbers were better
[01:11:46] That year but he had
[01:11:50] Played poorly in the playoffs a year before
[01:11:53] So it went right yokez
[01:11:55] Yonis goes and beats phoenix in the uh
[01:11:59] The win in the championship
[01:12:01] Michael jordan one year on karma alone won MVP
[01:12:05] I think the same thing happened with charles balkley won MVP
[01:12:08] It was 16 years that year
[01:12:12] Jordan's numbers were better
[01:12:15] The year after
[01:12:17] He had already won an MVP every almost every single time
[01:12:21] But yet it's like we can't just keep giving it
[01:12:25] to jordan
[01:12:26] Which you can
[01:12:28] Because he was clearly the most valuable player. He actually earned it. It's it's not like a
[01:12:34] You know, uh an eye test vote. It's like what guys I hear killing it
[01:12:40] All season long
[01:12:42] Even if it's three years in a row then that's the case and b last year
[01:12:46] I
[01:12:48] In between him and yokech
[01:12:50] Because I think they had that final matchup, but like so I was kind of in the moment too. I was like, yeah
[01:12:55] That was his MVP moment, but then he didn't go to denver and play him in denver and I was like, uh
[01:13:01] Still since 2019
[01:13:03] So I don't know if it's the altitude or what but
[01:13:06] Yeah, so this year, uh, well remember this year they pulled him out during pregame
[01:13:12] And then he ended up getting hurt
[01:13:15] Their next game against golden state when komingo fell on him or whatever
[01:13:19] Yeah, so they were saying they were saying that in warm-ups. He just didn't look right
[01:13:23] You know, so he was scheduled to play it just didn't work out
[01:13:27] But you know
[01:13:28] It is what it is
[01:13:29] But you know what america you ain't got to worry about that because sports reports is ordered
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[01:14:08] We'll be back on monday. Hopefully denver will have their shit together by then
[01:14:14] And you know, but if not
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