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[00:02:01] Get it off my chest.
[00:02:06] All right, keep my short sweet.
[00:02:09] Keep it being this time.
[00:02:10] The NFL listen, don't piss my pygdon tell me he's raining.
[00:02:16] Y'all these are start with these rules are in place for player safety.
[00:02:21] It's a context sport you're not going to be able to legislate everything out of it.
[00:02:26] At a certain point you're just breaking it, you're fixing until it breaks.
[00:02:31] The new kickoff rule, terrible.
[00:02:34] The hip drop tackle.
[00:02:38] I don't know how else these guys can be able to tackle or how are you going to be able to regulate it?
[00:02:48] Because right now this summer and maybe like in Texas and Florida they probably got summer camps already for football.
[00:02:56] They're teaching tackling drills to six, seven, eight, nine, ten, twelve year old kids which is rapid roll.
[00:03:03] Get your hands in, roll like an alligator.
[00:03:07] Get them down on the ground.
[00:03:08] Yes, the hip drop, the negative results are bad but if you think about you can't hit guys in the head.
[00:03:15] I'm in my hinds ward, so listen I read you hit me in my head than my knee.
[00:03:20] We saw Rob Gronkowski running that scene, Rob get his knee tore up.
[00:03:24] Maybe because Rob Gronkowski is a big dude and you want to take him low anyway.
[00:03:29] That safety probably could have taken a shot at his head and I would have a big hit or maybe a hit to the chest but he probably would have got flagged or fined.
[00:03:39] You go low, so now it's like you're only going to give defensive players one target.
[00:03:47] You're hitting them in the back, and pushing a lot of bounds or hitting them in their knees because if you hit them from the side your momentum is going to swing around the legs.
[00:03:57] So if you're momentum swings around and this just doesn't seem like a feasible way to tackle or for the players even protect to protect the fellow players.
[00:04:11] How am I going to tackle you safely?
[00:04:16] You got rid of a horse collar which is like it was a deliberate, you know, you're yanking the guy back.
[00:04:23] But there's only so much she can really do for a player as far as a defensive player.
[00:04:27] Like I said, you only given them a few more targets to hit me like it's now it's just maybe I can hit him in the chest or his ribs on the tackle my shoulder pads or maybe I can go and hit him in the knee because they can't wrap.
[00:04:39] So it's just going to be just all shoulders and shoulder pads and helmets to legs knee styles.
[00:04:46] No one's going to wrap anything up so like you're going to put guys in just a bad position where so guy could wrap up with his arms and play to the ground.
[00:04:54] I'm not saying every tackle is a hip drop tackle and guys can't figure it out because you know they've all adjusted all the safeties.
[00:05:01] I've seen plenty of games where guys are throwing into triple coverage and the cover three and it's like that safety could come take the wide receivers head off but he doesn't or they can get that sheep shot on the quarterback but they don't so guys have never restraint.
[00:05:16] But it's only so many rules you can change and we talked about our pre meeting the DK Metcalf chase down a boot a baker would have been a hip drop tackle penalty on DK Metcalf.
[00:05:29] Now think about how much effort went into that play for an offensive player the chase this guy down and he would have been flagged on that tackle instead of praised like you should have been for effort he would have been flagged for it.
[00:05:45] Well you know the first thing that I think about is Tony Pollard against San Francisco and that playoff game that was just a sad moment but unfortunately that's football like injuries are part of the game.
[00:06:03] You can't legislate it out the game. The second thing I thought about was Mike Mitchell of the Pittsburgh Steelers a few years ago he was talking about well now I'm going to get hurt trying to protect the offensive player you know so like what are we trying to accomplish here?
[00:06:21] I'm surprised though let me back up I'm surprised that you feel the way to do about kickoff rule like I know it's like in line with the old XFL kickoff rule and everything so I think you got needed to be revamped.
[00:06:37] I'm talking about the concussions and everything else well because the kickoff and the punts because I think the point is probably just as dangerous because guys are running this business.
[00:06:49] But it's dangerous this is many hits I just don't understand how you're going to say it's about player safety but yet you're lobbying for 18th game on a season.
[00:07:01] I mean I don't want to be the old guy. I want my original kickoff back because if you look at the numbers if you look at the numbers.
[00:07:11] Concussions didn't go up or down really like it stayed around the same median since the new kickoff rules have been adopted even though most of the kickoffs go out of the end zone anyway which is another thing that I hate is when the dude doesn't need to test the ball and just lets it fall on the ground but you know but we would
[00:07:30] be 22% of kickoffs got returned last year.
[00:07:34] Yeah but when you look at the numbers it didn't make a huge dent as far as less you know hypothetical numbers it wasn't as if concussions were at 27% and this kickoff rule dropped at the 18.
[00:07:49] You know so I just don't know what we're trying to accomplish outside of we're just changing rules because just spoiling you're literally spoiling entertainment.
[00:07:59] Interjecting more referees like I said we're going to get into our read conversation later you're only just ramping up at some point someone's going to sit down like I say you need a old head in the room just sitting
[00:08:12] in the corner and just like no man that's stupid and this is why I stupid because everyone's sitting around the table.
[00:08:18] Welcome to my team.
[00:08:20] Yeah they're looking at I think they're looking at the data but if you think about it 22% of kickoffs got returned so that means 78% of time guys are just jogging down the field.
[00:08:35] You got rid of a wedge because that was inherently dangerous that was a deliberate failings 300 lead initis type assistant where guys interlocked arms and then another group of guys ran into
[00:08:48] them like I'm still lying from which eyes and it's like like Braveheart like that seeing a Braveheart that doesn't happen now and realistically didn't happen off because guys are staying their lanes.
[00:09:01] Guys don't get together because if you get together that's how Devon has to get outside of me so guys are running straight up so it's not like there is one guy catching the kickoff and he's getting cream because of ball so high in the air by the time it's that's not happening.
[00:09:16] It's just you give me you take the data and you make it fit what you want to be changed.
[00:09:23] Correct.
[00:09:25] You know but yeah I agree with that so get it off my chest you know it's March madness and one thing that I hate is when people say keep that same energy but unfortunately I'm in a position where I'm going to be.
[00:09:45] I'm in a position where I have to say keep that same energy so when we talk about college football playoff expansion everybody talks about the valuation of the regular season and how the games don't matter anymore but when I look at college basketball.
[00:10:04] I don't watch these conferences play anywhere from 16 to 20 conference games have a conference tournament and then a team like say NC State gets hot for four or five days.
[00:10:18] There's the ACC tournament and they get in the tournament with the automatic bid versus a team that went you know 28 and 6 but they were from a smaller conference or whatever like Indiana State that I'm watching now for example.
[00:10:33] So now everybody's banging on the mountain west because here's another year here's only San Diego State in the sweet 16 again so they got six bids and everybody saying see they didn't deserve six bids.
[00:10:47] The ACC only got four and should have got potentially six with it and wake force the big he's only got three all three are in the sweet 16 so that shows that St. John's Providence is sitting Hall should have probably been in and then I go
[00:11:06] because the regular season matters if you want it wake force in the tournament nobody told them to use the loot to Utah and then they turned around and lost the Utah and the NIT other day too.
[00:11:19] They lost them twice. I'm sorry George they lost the Georgia twice nobody told them to lose the Utah nobody told him to lose the LSU nobody told pit to lose to Missouri nobody told St. John's to lose to Michigan in Boston college.
[00:11:34] Nobody told St. John Hall to lose the Iowa USC and Rutgers like so the regular season make it matter that's all we're asking for the NCAA tournament it shouldn't be about what you did in the last week it should be about your whole collective body of work I'm a gift Providence
[00:11:56] because the class of the program did not pass because there was a player got heard in January but they still were good enough to make the tournament they just did now ACC did for their credit they go nine and three against the big 12 this year and look at the big 12 with a losing record in an NCAA tournament right now but it's not about the
[00:12:17] the top some are better depth wise which the big 12 is but if you look at it we
[00:12:23] still got Houston and Iowa State wanting to seed in the sweet 16 so instead of
[00:12:31] trying to make a narrative just enjoy basketball.
[00:12:37] What do you mean enjoy? No one's doing that man.
[00:12:41] Keep that same energy that's all.
[00:12:46] You know but speaking of the NCAA tournament.
[00:12:49] Yes I heard some some other crazy stuff about that like some coach of
[00:12:54] forgot who it was so my mid majors shouldn't get in on an automatic bid
[00:12:58] because they can't compete.
[00:13:01] As all burn as all burn if they could compete.
[00:13:04] I mean grand can you want a game and they're not even the mid they won
[00:13:09] they'd be same mayors.
[00:13:11] Grand Canyon's a mid major they might be like what they call a low major
[00:13:15] they're in the whack.
[00:13:18] Then you got uh who else wanted you know you got you had Duquesne BYU
[00:13:26] Duquesne BYU.
[00:13:28] You might be big 12 Oakland Oakland.
[00:13:32] You know Oakland almost did it again.
[00:13:35] Another 13 C they oh yeah Yale talked about them so the joy like
[00:13:41] something like this if you feel that they don't belong and you get matched up
[00:13:46] with them then just beat him right.
[00:13:49] That's a good idea for you. I'd rather I'd rather play a game
[00:13:52] where I can go nine deep in my bench
[00:13:56] and get my starters out because I'm up 19 with four
[00:14:01] minutes together.
[00:14:05] Money money money money.
[00:14:08] That's all it is.
[00:14:12] Get involved make to turn that get you some money.
[00:14:15] You know and but like when I think about this you know what you just said
[00:14:19] you know I look at Florida Atlantic for example
[00:14:23] you know they made the final four last year lost to San Diego State
[00:14:27] you know um but also two of their conference mates
[00:14:32] played in the final of the NIT you know and then
[00:14:37] another one of their teams in their conference won
[00:14:40] the CBI tournament I mean nobody cares about the CBI
[00:14:44] but the point being they had three teams from their
[00:14:48] conference in the title game of two different
[00:14:52] tournaments and they made the final four.
[00:14:55] So to say that the mid majors can't compete is assa nine when
[00:15:00] I saw Butler make two straight national titles.
[00:15:03] I saw Loyola Chicago make the final four.
[00:15:06] I saw Wichita State make the final four.
[00:15:08] I saw George Mason make the final four so don't tell me that they can't
[00:15:13] San Diego State played for the national title last year
[00:15:16] so don't tell me.
[00:15:18] Missing plenty of two seeds lose seven seeds in the second round so it's not an
[00:15:23] exact science. It's set up the way it is like I just talked about with the NFL
[00:15:27] you can't fix it until it breaks all the time.
[00:15:30] Some things are just in place and there will be anomalies.
[00:15:35] There's going to be a certain situation where a team like
[00:15:39] Auburn next year might go 25 and 12
[00:15:45] and they'll get in or they go 19 and 17 they don't get in.
[00:15:51] Well don't lose 17 games you know if Drake if they
[00:15:55] win their conference and they beat another team as one 27-28 games they
[00:16:00] deserve to be in even a team that they beat if we think about it sometimes
[00:16:03] like you had a team like like Northwestern was 21-11 because I remember
[00:16:08] for years the adage was 20 wins and you're essentially
[00:16:14] in if you're one of these major schools.
[00:16:17] Yeah, you missed it.
[00:16:20] Yeah 19 and 14 but they got in so yeah they can get in and make some
[00:16:25] damage you know just some damage but in the same sense it's like
[00:16:28] give these other schools an opportunity Texas at 20 and 12
[00:16:32] but Saint Peter's you win your conference tournament you get in.
[00:16:36] Yeah they're 19 and 13 but they had their hot meat they deserve a chance to get in.
[00:16:40] These other schools when the field is when the scoreboard is already
[00:16:44] slanted in your favor don't be mad that somebody else
[00:16:48] happened work a little harder achieve that goal and they got it
[00:16:52] because like I said Miss Constate 19 and 14
[00:16:55] uh your your rating is good enough we'll get you in based off these quality
[00:17:01] wins whereas Indiana State was thinking you've got to win your conference
[00:17:05] tournament while they didn't break it but Drake got it
[00:17:07] because of that so like if you're going to set up a roadblock for me to get
[00:17:11] in and I overcome that then I deserve the reward once I get over that
[00:17:17] because everybody else is getting stuff handed to them
[00:17:19] and what's crazy is after the craziness that was last season
[00:17:24] we only have one double digit seed in the sweet 16 this year
[00:17:29] the North Carolina State Wolf Pack we only have one or another team one
[00:17:34] other team that is seeded lower than five you know which is a six
[00:17:38] seed so you know you got what you wanted you didn't want
[00:17:43] the Cinderella last year you didn't want the small school
[00:17:47] and now we don't have it and see state is not a Cinderella they might be a
[00:17:51] dark horse they're not a Cinderella but on a side note real quick you know
[00:17:57] of course we got the matchup of the national title game
[00:18:01] rematch coming up between San Diego State and Yukon it'll probably look
[00:18:05] about the same as last year did but on another note real quick I
[00:18:10] wanted to touch on so you remember back when
[00:18:15] Odell Beckham played for the Giants and they took that picture on the boat
[00:18:21] and everybody was talking about how distracted they were you know how
[00:18:25] they were losing games and they never recovered from that so like when the
[00:18:30] plate when teams lose and players move on or declare for the draft
[00:18:36] or do these things people say well their heart wasn't into it
[00:18:40] they were distracted well since the tournament you know since this
[00:18:44] tournament has started we saw Florida Atlantic
[00:18:48] lose on Friday in their first round game to Northwestern
[00:18:53] and their head coach is the coach at Michigan three days later
[00:18:56] we saw Washington State lose on Saturday
[00:19:00] to Iowa State and their coaches the coach at
[00:19:05] Stanford a day later you know we saw James Madison
[00:19:12] get their backs blown out P Diddy style you know
[00:19:18] on Sunday against Duke and their head coach left for Vanderbilt
[00:19:26] the next day you know so where did these coaches let the kids down why I'm not
[00:19:33] saying they did but why is that not more of a discussion that I mean they
[00:19:37] obviously did not I don't think James Madison's coach
[00:19:41] got a call 11 o'clock that night as agent said
[00:19:45] I got Vanderbilt on the other line what do you say
[00:19:49] you know it's that this conversation probably happened three weeks ago
[00:19:52] that conversation that as soon as the guy warm and they were able to play at
[00:19:55] nights around a golf yeah and he holds a golf a lot of action happens there
[00:20:01] don't get it yeah because you can't you can't set up a contract you can't
[00:20:05] understand the relations you can't do an interview
[00:20:08] right like a proper interview because you got to prepare for that interview
[00:20:12] because if I'm a division one coach at one school
[00:20:16] and it's another opening and they want to interview me
[00:20:20] I need some time to figure out where you are geographically like what kind of
[00:20:26] environment it is uh what I want to do there like
[00:20:29] is a good for my family like you got to like factor all this in before you even do
[00:20:33] the interview so if you have the job fully accepted and let's
[00:20:38] say 72 hours is like did you how long were you doing this research how
[00:20:43] long did I mean times that he reached out to you that's Lincoln Riley status
[00:20:47] you know and we're gonna private shit
[00:20:50] well like when James Madison in particular like you know their game ended probably
[00:20:56] eight o'clock in the eastern time zone maybe not a clock
[00:21:01] I got the notification about their coach leaving at like 1030
[00:21:06] you know what I mean so like it was obviously in place already
[00:21:11] and nobody blinks an eye or bats an eye but anyway back to the tournament
[00:21:16] you know the the big east got three teams in all three made the sweet 16
[00:21:21] the ACC got what five in and Virginia messed it up but
[00:21:26] we still got Clemson Duke North Carolina and he stayed in the tournament
[00:21:32] shot out to Colorado I told everybody pre-turning it about Kai Simpson
[00:21:37] you know he he came through just like I thought he would
[00:21:41] market and Tyler and Tyler Colick would just better
[00:21:45] you know they were just better um and I know there were a couple of games that
[00:21:49] you wanted to talk about that stood out to you I I watched the uh at the
[00:21:54] second half of GCU versus Alabama
[00:21:58] oh I just thought they were gonna brawl man it was a very scrappy game
[00:22:04] it was a very good game GCU was up in then Alabama just got
[00:22:10] but GCU just had a couple mistakes they were just odd like they had
[00:22:14] they were up five
[00:22:18] Bama came down excuse me squirted two then a guy got filed
[00:22:24] they got they made one free throw they got missed the second free throw I believe
[00:22:30] GCU gets to rebound and the guy stumbles with the ball
[00:22:36] and Alabama gets the ball back like this gets it still off of rebound like he
[00:22:40] gets to rebound turned dribbles it off his leg or something
[00:22:44] Alabama gets the ball back score in one and now they're up three
[00:22:50] all in like a matter of like a couple of like just bad possessions
[00:22:54] so it just was uh it was just was funny to watch that but I really thought
[00:22:57] they were gonna pull it out because I do like the center I know you talked about
[00:23:00] like not really liking it because you don't think it's like then I can
[00:23:02] get that far well no I like the centerola I was saying that America only
[00:23:08] wants the centerola to get to a certain point the first round and then
[00:23:11] losing around a 32 yeah like they don't want an elite
[00:23:15] eight with the mid major in it they don't want to final unless it's Gonzaga
[00:23:20] you know or St. Mary somebody that they recognize on that level but
[00:23:25] they wouldn't want to see Grand Canyon in the final four
[00:23:28] Creighton and Oregon that game came down to a couple of like
[00:23:34] the coach for Oregon basically stop coaching
[00:23:41] in the second half it just had his best score
[00:23:46] and the big man be the offense yeah who's nodded uh
[00:23:51] it probably yeah so yeah so basically was you know get it off the rim
[00:23:57] or catch this lob I'm shooting everything and he was taking good shots
[00:24:02] which can tell that energy was getting lower and lower and lower so then
[00:24:08] Grand Creighton was I think they were down to
[00:24:16] and then they had Oregon had a freshman inbound in the ball
[00:24:19] and this is where coaching comes into play don't pass the ball
[00:24:24] to Dante he's the worst freakthorough shooter on the floor he was like six
[00:24:29] all of a sudden he definitely that coach definitely Dana Altman he
[00:24:32] definitely reacted he reacted to it I didn't like that I didn't like
[00:24:36] that reaction because it let because the kid inbound ball is a
[00:24:42] freshman right passing it through the big man
[00:24:46] so he sees I messed up my getting into this guy Dante sees the coach react
[00:24:52] that way and then goes to the line one in one misses the front end
[00:24:56] Creighton comes down good shot ties the game
[00:25:00] uh but I saw in that huddle the kid number 10 the the freshman that passed the
[00:25:05] ball it was I don't know if it was like someone's consoling him
[00:25:11] or if he was like it was it was it was a little friction
[00:25:15] in the huddle after the miss free throw and
[00:25:19] Creighton get the rebound was a timeout so when they went back to the huddle
[00:25:22] you could sell it was like a little ruckus and then go in the double overtime
[00:25:25] christnar just he just was he had no legs yeah he just like
[00:25:30] and they knew it they were like oh you you the guy that brought us here
[00:25:35] keep firing away maybe just out of happenstance and looks to share will I was
[00:25:41] gonna go in but Creight you know you got to get a ball
[00:25:44] of the big man when he's rolling to the hoop he's seven foot one
[00:25:49] it was so many times he did the pick a roll he's rolling i'm like
[00:25:52] just throwing it up there by not it was kicking out of shooting three
[00:25:56] it's like they were living by a three and down by a three and I get it
[00:25:59] it was still a good game but that was one thing like
[00:26:01] when in this next game against Tennessee if they don't take advantage of
[00:26:05] that aspect of their offense then they're they're gonna get run out of
[00:26:10] building because it was so easy and it's like they don't have a natural point guard
[00:26:16] i think they have guys who are point guards well they had well they had um
[00:26:20] they had them hard and he transferred to Gonzaga um you know his brother
[00:26:26] placed for the Pacers and so he went to Gonzaga and they're left with what
[00:26:31] they got and i still had him i got him in the title game against
[00:26:35] Carolina so we'll see what happens um but Texas
[00:26:39] anime Houston was a crazy game as well because
[00:26:43] yeah i was just him got involved some social engagements
[00:26:46] yeah we tailor the fourth
[00:26:51] five of 26
[00:26:55] five of 26 what we doing
[00:27:02] what we doing you know uh you know uh Jamal should
[00:27:06] fall doubt for Houston sharp fall doubt for Houston but it was too late
[00:27:11] but shout out to uh Anderson uh trying to think of his last name right now
[00:27:16] Anderson Garcia um who off the bench average is six points of game
[00:27:22] hit eight threes on the season you know ball rolls out to him he just steps
[00:27:27] right up as if he was supposed to and puts the game into the first
[00:27:31] overtime and bracket people with brackets everywhere started pissing
[00:27:37] down their leg that mean that's the beginning part of the tournament
[00:27:42] and i think we're gonna get into the money in the coaches movement
[00:27:45] just one and done that's why people love the NFL playoff so much that's
[00:27:49] why like the NBA playoffs kind of get like
[00:27:52] they don't think they get they're going to send out of attention
[00:27:55] because it's so long because the NBA regular season you know you got
[00:28:00] Boston playing on a Tuesday at Atlanta and then they got a game
[00:28:04] Thursday and Washington so they're moving around so it was like
[00:28:07] you kind of follow the excitement but when he gets into the playoffs the
[00:28:11] game slowed down and not as exciting the results are exciting because you
[00:28:15] wanted this guy to go on the next round and this incidental
[00:28:18] internment you got a guy who scored
[00:28:20] Chris and art e-score 40 in the first game yeah i think he finished this
[00:28:25] game with between 32 and 36 i believe but him and dunted all
[00:28:30] into guys this score in the second half until uh one guy got a putback layup
[00:28:35] late into uh before it went the overtime so
[00:28:40] that level of excitement making a name for yourself
[00:28:42] where you're gonna be in potentially maybe someone's looking at you now
[00:28:46] maybe it you know a jeal ex-spot opens up for you or maybe like i said
[00:28:50] transfer port opportunity to talk about grandcain and i pre-meeting
[00:28:54] they probably has some transfers come in but now maybe some of those guys have
[00:28:58] opportunity to transfer out and maybe someone who wants to transfer from
[00:29:02] a school like market that might not be getting that much run again this gc
[00:29:07] you guys they had nice little run last year
[00:29:10] right so so that so so march bad is this an opportunity for every one
[00:29:15] but i guess the coaches are the only ones taking advantage of it in the actual
[00:29:20] moment that's just wisdom that's just that's just understanding
[00:29:26] like how to use your leverage i think people find it
[00:29:29] odd when players especially young players exercise that versus coaches i
[00:29:35] think that's what if you presented it to a coach he was just flat out say
[00:29:40] me what do you expect me to do like this opportunity the lifetime of always
[00:29:43] want to coach yeah yeah yeah yeah the guy and that's kind of the end of the line
[00:29:45] of questions all right so let's walk this out
[00:29:49] you know we are in the six in the sweet sixteen
[00:29:53] you know we got Thursday, Friday and then you've got your elite on
[00:29:58] elite eight on Saturday Sunday with the final four the following Saturday
[00:30:02] championship the Monday after that so let's so let's walk down this we're
[00:30:07] gonna go in order starting with the schedule so uh
[00:30:12] starting with Thursday we got Clemson and Arizona and the west
[00:30:19] who you got the c if i have them in my bracket still
[00:30:23] i got Arizona yeah i got Arizona uh the regional final of course is in
[00:30:31] LA so we talked about that pre-turning it where if it ends up
[00:30:35] Arizona, North Carolina the one seat is at a significant
[00:30:39] disadvantage in that scenario all right so then we got the national title game
[00:30:43] rematch Yukon San Diego State i'm assuming you got Yukon
[00:30:48] I got Yukon yeah i got Yukon as well i do think it might be closer than the
[00:30:52] experts think you know i like this uh
[00:30:56] jalen laguiet I like him a lot so you know i think
[00:30:59] they can keep it semi-close but i think Yukon pulls away late
[00:31:04] all right then you got dwarf carolina and alababa
[00:31:12] uh i'm gonna go UNC i think the way that uh
[00:31:20] i think that they're the scoring ability in the front court and their guard
[00:31:24] play in North Carolina and just i think just like sometimes a legacy
[00:31:28] of the north of a school kind of like propels you in these moments
[00:31:32] yeah and beat it number one C yeah i got North Carolina in that game
[00:31:35] yeah i got North Carolina as well uh but don't let babma get hot from three
[00:31:40] that's the key there and then you got the two versus the three in the east
[00:31:45] winter will play Yukon Iowa State or San Diego State
[00:31:49] Iowa State against Illinois what say you
[00:31:52] got Illinois pulling it out okay look at us
[00:31:56] I got Illinois as well all right then let's take it to friday
[00:32:01] you've got the dark horse don't you dare call them a Cinderella
[00:32:04] NC State going up against shocka smart who has this is
[00:32:09] this is weird you know this is the first time
[00:32:12] shocka has made it out of the first weekend
[00:32:16] since the year at vcu when he made the final four
[00:32:20] that's a that's strange that is very strange to take a to take a
[00:32:25] like a big major team like that at the time
[00:32:28] that far but then get all these better job opportunities and
[00:32:32] better recruiting and better money in my opinion what i'm doing like when
[00:32:36] tubby smith was at Tulsa when he was at Georgia like these no name programs
[00:32:41] basketball wise like he was pulling up set he got the Kentucky
[00:32:45] one title with patinos players and then after that it just kind of
[00:32:50] declined very quickly but uh so markhead and see stay who you got
[00:32:55] I got market i'm taking the wolf pack
[00:32:59] you know saying i'm riding the DJ burns train i like horn
[00:33:03] uh i think market i think their time is up uh then we got
[00:33:09] Purdue and Gonzaga well i had Kansas so
[00:33:18] i like i like the whipping that Purdue put on Utah State
[00:33:22] whoo 39 points i think that just kind of i think that gives
[00:33:27] like confidence to your team and i think it puts together a team on notice
[00:33:33] you put up 100 points and win by 39 points
[00:33:37] i i got to assume you got that hand i'mma just score Purdue
[00:33:41] i'm going with the zags uh they did play earlier this year
[00:33:46] Purdue one by twelve you know but i think the zaggan getting the look at them
[00:33:50] will help them this time around uh then you got duke against houston probably
[00:33:56] the game of the sweet sixteen
[00:34:01] okay houston all right houston as well um i just i just think
[00:34:06] defensively they're gonna make life hard for duke uh the cane
[00:34:12] uh from duke went off for 30 against james madison six for eight from three um
[00:34:19] i don't think he's going to get those looks against houston and then finally
[00:34:24] tenicea gets cretin take a tenicee
[00:34:32] i had cretin losing to soft comonner in second run anyway
[00:34:37] so i'mma take tenicee to move on
[00:34:42] yeah so my late eight looks like tenicee
[00:34:46] Purdue
[00:34:49] marquette houston
[00:34:53] you con illinois and useier zona
[00:34:58] yeah so i got um in my late eight i got you con over illinois even though
[00:35:06] i do think so i did pick north carolina to beat you con in the final four
[00:35:11] you know but i do think that illinois is equipped to beat you con
[00:35:16] tern shannon can go off for thirty to forty at any moment
[00:35:21] make steffon castle beat through damasque you know in his triple double
[00:35:26] illinois has what it takes to beat you con i just don't think they're ready
[00:35:30] i just don't think they're ready um i got u and c over arizona even though i am
[00:35:35] a little concerned that the game would be in la so you know obviously arizona
[00:35:40] no i mean no carolina's a school that travels well enough but
[00:35:43] obviously arizona is going to have an advantage there
[00:35:46] and if you're you con if you're you con and you do win that game
[00:35:49] you play arizona and the final four the final four is in
[00:35:54] beatings and then on the other side of the bracket
[00:35:58] um i got ganzago over in c state and then i got
[00:36:03] creating upset in houston
[00:36:09] so i got houston beaten market
[00:36:15] then i got tenisee beaten per du my final four is yukon
[00:36:24] arizona tenisee houston all right there you go so we'll see what happens
[00:36:31] but now it's time to move on because it's that time of year where the air smells
[00:36:37] a little bit better you know saying the flowers are starting to bloom
[00:36:41] starting to see bees and spiders and every all our little friends
[00:36:46] it's baseball season so me and mr. logic want to take y'all down this path we're
[00:36:52] going to pick our division winners we're going to pick our wild cars
[00:36:56] we're going to tell you who wins the world series so go on and get us started
[00:37:01] well you know baseball is something that you know we didn't really cover that
[00:37:05] much on the show try to get into it it's been in the the news recently for
[00:37:11] more than the various reasons uh but i mean
[00:37:15] let's pretty much go and kind of chalk here my division winners
[00:37:19] okay i got the dodgers reds braves
[00:37:26] okay wild card might come back to bite me because for some reason the
[00:37:32] pyjories always seem to just come up short for some reason it just
[00:37:37] seems like they spend the money they get the
[00:37:39] they get the aid the free agent but i got the pyjories cubs and fillies in my
[00:37:45] wild card and now okay then for the ale division Yankees
[00:37:57] tigers mariner's because like the tiger yeah i'm just i just i just let's check
[00:38:06] out a couple of podcasts i'll just read a couple of different articles and
[00:38:09] i'm like you know what seems to be like the consensus and the
[00:38:13] the people that areas write in my research and like maybe they're on to
[00:38:16] something uh ale wild card oriels raiders asher as a
[00:38:21] canvass team that won the world series not make the players i know it's pretty
[00:38:26] common in baseball especially with their playoff format
[00:38:29] but i just feel like that uh
[00:38:35] i've elect oriels because like sometimes when the team is down
[00:38:39] for a while and they start to claw back then they had that hot year like that
[00:38:43] Kansas City royals year where it's like you have all these years of just kind
[00:38:47] of mechery and he try to make move here try to make move here you lose your
[00:38:51] big you lose the guy in free agency and then one year
[00:38:55] it all comes together i think this is a year that
[00:38:58] they uh you know make the playoffs and my dad's an oriel's fan so i got to get him
[00:39:02] there welcome to the club pops you know uh so who you
[00:39:07] got in the world series i'm gonna go kind of boring
[00:39:15] uh but you know exciting Yankees Dodgers
[00:39:19] just New York and LA just a gut feeling i think that i think this is the year
[00:39:24] baseball is back when you get otani and the big apple
[00:39:31] and the six eight airing judges probably gonna be ale and vp
[00:39:35] otani's probably gonna be in lvp maybe wookie vets i don't know i just think the
[00:39:41] i know we got the the was the was the what's the the money ball guy
[00:39:47] oh billy bean billy bee bee that's cool but like
[00:39:52] star power is is raw power and i think
[00:39:57] dodgers Yankees world series yeah same people waiting on Yankees and Dodgers
[00:40:02] still with no problem to be in the finals too
[00:40:05] uh it's gotta happen it's gotta have something something
[00:40:09] it has to work out to where we get a seltics
[00:40:13] lakers NBA finals we get get get something we need something so i'm
[00:40:18] gonna just i'm gonna go out on that ledger say we get in Dodgers i will
[00:40:22] definitely watch if we get that world series i'll definitely
[00:40:26] i'm going to i would definitely have every game on me
[00:40:29] i'm gonna go to i'm going into brunks right it's gonna be worse than tom
[00:40:32] Brady versus Peyton Madden uh trained rise going to be hectic
[00:40:38] the game to make the world series because i went on a Saturday once
[00:40:42] that train that the D train to the Bronx yeah it was the most
[00:40:46] uncomfortable i've ever been in my entire life just
[00:40:49] people are just packed in and it was a slow boy probably
[00:40:53] seven or eight he's like right in my stomach just look at that mean
[00:40:57] it's like i'm by the door i can't move nobody can move
[00:41:01] there's a whole bunch of people wearing Yankees gear i'm just like
[00:41:04] this is all i don't want to be in this particular mid-either
[00:41:07] yeah but you just you just want it and then every stop is more people
[00:41:11] going into the game because it was like six thirty so like the game starts
[00:41:14] in seven so it just was like more people just getting packed into the D
[00:41:17] trainings like this is awful all right so my division winners
[00:41:24] i guess i'll start with the national league since you started with the national
[00:41:27] league um braves reds dodgers so we match there
[00:41:34] yeah um wild card fillies
[00:41:39] giants and diamond backs
[00:41:45] um like you said the podra is always false short
[00:41:49] i like the blinks now pick up by the giants he went 14 to 9 last year
[00:41:55] doesn't sound that great but he did have a two two five e-r-a
[00:41:59] you know uh the braves have the best pitching in the league
[00:42:03] so you know um i'm picking them to win the nl i know i did that last year too
[00:42:08] last year i picked uh the braves and astros in the world series
[00:42:12] and they both you know broke my heart in different ways
[00:42:15] and holy shit at this shot by since a nadi we got six point nine left in the out of
[00:42:21] state trying to make it trying to join Georgia and the n it final four
[00:42:25] i'm a sicko but anyway and the american league
[00:42:31] i got Baltimore Minnesota in Seattle
[00:42:34] you know orals coming off 101 wins went out and got column burns
[00:42:39] to solidify their pitching staff uh to go along with their rookie at a year
[00:42:45] gunner anderson with his 28 home runs 82 rbi
[00:42:50] you know i think that the orals are just on a mission
[00:42:54] uh they are
[00:42:58] i think they are good enough with the garrant cold injury to start the season
[00:43:02] that the gankies are going to start in a hole
[00:43:05] yeah but i do think that the gankies make the playoffs
[00:43:07] as a wild card along with houston and the blue jays so
[00:43:12] yes at home i do not have the rangers in the playoffs uh there has not been a
[00:43:18] repeat champion since the gankies went three
[00:43:22] p 98 to 2000 so you know they're up against that of course
[00:43:27] they got some injuries going on jungler's back in the day like those
[00:43:32] playoff parameters are very yeah it was very
[00:43:34] frustrating yeah it was yeah 14 me to play i was
[00:43:38] it seemed like like you two you two yeah uh jung is
[00:43:42] jungler's out for a few weeks right now jick the gromm is at schedule to come
[00:43:46] back to at least august so i think that's going to be a rough start for
[00:43:51] the rangers where like the gankies they're going to start out in a hole
[00:43:55] so it's not that i don't think that the gankies are good enough to win the
[00:43:58] division it's not that i think that the rangers aren't good enough
[00:44:01] to make the playoffs i just think they're going to be caught climbing up from
[00:44:05] behind oh it's going to be a tough tough battle
[00:44:09] the tigers are my surprise team i don't have them making the playoffs
[00:44:14] but i think they're a year early so i understand where mr
[00:44:18] logical is coming from but i just think next year is going to probably be
[00:44:22] their year um c-addle last year
[00:44:28] they went 94 against the astros which is a good sign
[00:44:32] but they went for a non against the rangers so if they can tighten that up
[00:44:38] you know at least get closer to even in those matchups i think that spells the
[00:44:43] division title that i picked them to win when it comes to baseball
[00:44:49] i've learned that the central divisions are the south divisions of the n-f-l
[00:44:57] so the so the a-l central and the n-l central are the a-f-c and n-f-c south
[00:45:03] you know they just they're the mediocre conferences where
[00:45:07] the team with the best record has to get into playoffs but you'll be lucky
[00:45:11] to get anything other than that yeah um you know so um you were big on the
[00:45:17] pirates early last year we were talking about them and then as soon as
[00:45:20] we mentioned it a couple of times it was like up now that i was a joke we didn't really
[00:45:24] believe in that you know like but like i said with baseball sometimes like the
[00:45:29] movie major league sometimes just something happens in the clubhouse something
[00:45:34] superstitious whatever and it just galvanizes the team and they just go on these
[00:45:38] runs it's just unfortunate like you said a lot of those teams are the south
[00:45:44] versions of right and then and m-lb so yeah and then the pirates are still
[00:45:50] going to finish in last place uh the royals are still going to finish in last
[00:45:54] place the a-s are still going to finish in last place
[00:45:58] the lots of the more than three last place um the bets might finish for
[00:46:04] you know it's gonna be true i just realized three teams that potentially
[00:46:09] could lose a hundred games or damn their hundred the raki's the raki's
[00:46:14] the angels i don't know what mike trot is going to do with his life
[00:46:20] and i think that uh this year we talked about the Miami Heat in our pre-meeting about how
[00:46:27] the media's doing the whole you don't want to play Miami but Miami's not the same team this year
[00:46:33] that's how i feel about the raise right now because every year the raise are always
[00:46:36] detaining that they have their stuff together they shop you
[00:46:41] when you don't expect anything from they just creep up on you
[00:46:45] not this year i don't think it's going to happen this year uh yeah so in my world series
[00:46:53] all right i'm gonna go braves over Seattle um against my better judgment i wanted to pick
[00:47:01] Baltimore but i didn't want to be a home or by the way Baltimore keep your heads up
[00:47:06] you know tragic incident this morning uh but but i didn't want to do the home or thing and pick
[00:47:11] them just because they're my team even though i do think they have a legit chance to win the world
[00:47:16] series um yeah but this never wrong with picking your team when your team has a legit chance
[00:47:22] unlike me when i picked the Falcons to play the cheese and the Super Bowl
[00:47:26] as you can play a home or pick when i'm good with that i acknowledge that now so
[00:47:31] like i said my world series picking strictly based off of i just want to see it happen i think
[00:47:38] it's it's not a big situation where they're not either team is built for the world series and
[00:47:44] when you have a guy injured like Gary Coles on injured maybe you get another guy in rotation that can
[00:47:50] surprise you well speaking of p-ditty you know i just don't know if uh old time he's going to be
[00:47:57] sitting beside him soon yo i've i've heard a couple different stories and we'll get to that
[00:48:04] in our game yeah we'll get to that here in a second but yeah like i said i like the giants with
[00:48:10] snow um the Yankees having won the world series since 2009 the twins on a run yeah the twins
[00:48:18] shot out to the twins they ended a 21 year series drought last year they won their first series
[00:48:25] in 21 years last year so maybe that unlocks something maybe that they can build some momentum off of
[00:48:30] that uh the guardians have the pitching but their hitting lineup is a mess um i think tarantos
[00:48:40] pitching is undervalued i think Seattle's pitching is undervalued and ladies and gentlemen cream abduldja
[00:48:48] bar because in the n-i-t final four how about that is the greatest nickname of 2024
[00:48:56] all right so to finish this off you know i made a video a couple of weeks ago about how i thought
[00:49:03] the NFL was not rigged some people got mad at me some people tried to educate me as send me these
[00:49:09] videos of Doug Baldwin throwing up thumbs up signs and everything so he didn't duck and yeah
[00:49:15] while he scores a touchdown and so maybe it's the logical was just sitting around mr. logical
[00:49:20] thought to himself like i don't believe sports is rigged but what could happen what has to happen
[00:49:28] for me to finally take that leap and save that it is what report like uh because if you can see
[00:49:35] here in the background uh put on Netflix documentaries because we got banned last week because i
[00:49:40] had the tournament on uh we were talking about it so we got shadow banned flake out of the buy-up
[00:49:46] more protecting your investment shut up the buy-up on me a billionaire and there's a couple of
[00:49:50] retired guys talking about basketball so you want to start this down i get it um but
[00:49:56] it's this is the bad sport documentary so just the first episode was about point shaving
[00:50:01] the airs on the state and you also have the documentary with Tim down he on Netflix as well
[00:50:08] so i asked i called him up like what report would you need to hear for you to be like it's a real problem
[00:50:17] and not like anything crazy but all like just like what report like what who would you have to hear
[00:50:23] from to say you know what i believe that this there these guys were playing with loaded dice
[00:50:29] for me i would need like a substantial like meeting or like investigative reporting that says
[00:50:45] a handful of referees and we'll use the NBA for example because i think the NBA can the
[00:50:53] referees really impact NBA more probably even more than NFL um because you could say i'm letting
[00:51:00] them play as a ref in an NBA you got four four five referees and they are either found to have
[00:51:12] way between the assets that they should have or their connections just someone is very clear is like
[00:51:19] hey this guy is a bookie out of you know queens he has every time they these guys ref games and
[00:51:30] the east and time zone they or anytime they're in new york they're at the exclusive restaurants eaten
[00:51:37] you know like i need i need like a real buildup i don't want like these people putting these clips
[00:51:42] together like i need like a real investigative reporting because i'm an evidence-based guy like i
[00:51:46] like to have a bachelor degree in criminal justice masters and public administration so it's like
[00:51:52] i was saying that was damn nice yeah yeah so like i i need i need an evidentiary uh stop the follow i
[00:52:02] can't just go off you feeling so i need like real reporting that says this ring of referees
[00:52:07] and then you can and then you can go back and look at the information is like you know every game
[00:52:13] that they ref in brooklyn or new york or in philly anywhere close to this area they seem to call
[00:52:20] this many files on this other opponents and whatever case may be i need something like that
[00:52:27] shale tani shale tani whatever the story that i heard was that his interpreter got in the debt
[00:52:36] and he loaned them money to get out of it sees reasonable especially considering
[00:52:44] why would he be gambling just four million dollars when he just signed like a seven hundred million
[00:52:50] dollar contract so it's like even the thrill of it it would be four million dollars at a time
[00:53:00] when you have that kind of money side note how about uh no lebron and the lakers beat the books
[00:53:11] great as we have any davis 34 23 and four blocks yannis 29 21 and 11 assists
[00:53:20] but if i would put it on tv i'd be flagged this is true
[00:53:30] something great game i'm going to check those highlights out when we get out of here
[00:53:34] um so yeah i was thinking about it and i think that for me at least just only speaking for myself
[00:53:44] i think we're at a point where i never trusted the mba to begin with
[00:53:52] like um i don't think it's rigged but i just if you had the point till a league that you think is rigged
[00:54:00] i would choose the mba um everybody talks about the superstar calls
[00:54:05] and you know like so you can't tell me that something like that exists but everything's on the
[00:54:14] complete up and up but now you know you have michael portor's little brother uh getting caught
[00:54:23] up in some prized picks type fuckery so was he was someone betting on betting the over on him or
[00:54:32] the under on him and he was just like playing like so there were two games there were two games that
[00:54:44] since january there's there's two games that he started and only played like or he played i should
[00:54:52] say not start it he played and only played like three minutes or something like that and on those
[00:54:57] nights there were significant bets you know on his under like you know like people were betting like
[00:55:05] 20 grand that he was going to hit the under on his three pointers and his rebounds and it's like
[00:55:11] hold up he won't even play enough in the first place to be betting on first of all you know
[00:55:17] i mean it's you have to play to be a viable bet though that's a good question that i that i can't
[00:55:23] answer that thing i think i heard of something where it's like this guy was selling me he had a parlay
[00:55:30] was i to watch the podcast i think i was watching the podcast he had a parlay and
[00:55:36] the someone he bet on on his parlay was a like a game time scratch
[00:55:45] and i think everything else hit but they didn't pay him out because that guy did all he drove was
[00:55:54] probably in deed i think it was somebody in my office to tell me that because it was like a leak
[00:56:01] it was like a late scratch so they didn't pay out as parlay so i do believe that tv stations
[00:56:11] it leads do have matchups that they prefer you know like we were talking another day we were on
[00:56:19] the phone i brought up the fact that i'm sure fox doesn't want ayowa in the big 10 championship game
[00:56:27] every year you know um so i'm sure every time ayowa wins the big 10 west the fox execs go what the hell
[00:56:37] but ayowa is still wins the west so you know it's long as michigan or ohio state is the
[00:56:44] appellation it can be done in the championship game but if it's the Indiana they're live yeah so
[00:56:49] so i do think that that's a thing you know um i do think the NBA grown when we got Milwaukee versus
[00:56:56] Phoenix even though you had Chris Paul you had a yonness you know it wasn't LeBron or stuff you
[00:57:03] know so so like i do think that there's preferred matchups or at least preferred players or teams
[00:57:09] that like we had a commercial they had a commercial but it was these two with the puppies yeah
[00:57:15] yeah they wanted Cleveland in Los Angeles they wanted LeBron and Kobe but it still didn't happen
[00:57:20] so so that's where like for me that series if it would have happened it just prints money you know
[00:57:28] so like if you were those tickets of sky yeah Yankees Dodgers World Series i'm not going to do
[00:57:36] you say i was joking i'm not getting i'm not anywhere near the Bronx no near the Bronx if that happens
[00:57:43] i did think that the NFL may have had some Tom Fulery when the Patriots won their first Super Bowl
[00:57:49] and win the Saints won after Katrina just because those were such big narratives going around the media
[00:57:57] i did they lost that first year no they did they did you know um but but i just but i but i did think that
[00:58:05] like okay what's going on here but it wasn't anything that was sustained like i don't think you
[00:58:10] rigged something once and then you're like all right i'm out of here like no more rigging like
[00:58:16] you know it's something that's gonna be continuous until you get busted so so when i think about it
[00:58:23] i wrote down a few things that would catch my attention maybe so let's see here and
[00:58:34] like uh the tim dinesy thing like we were brought up before the fact that they didn't investigate
[00:58:39] any other referees is odd to me so two things that i thought of initially
[00:58:45] and one of them is me being a homer and you know shot out the odys you know he posted the
[00:58:51] memory today of Luke May hitting the shot against Kentucky and the elite eight but uh that game
[00:58:57] is one of the games that is could could be on my rig list because Kentucky fans nationwide
[00:59:05] shutter every time john higgins is the referee for one of the games every single time he referees
[00:59:11] a game Kentucky fans say we're going home tonight or you know how's he gonna do it this time for the
[00:59:18] fact that i know that chris paul is three and seventeen that scott foster referees you just wonder
[00:59:29] you you just wonder like because the mb like basketball is oh i got sports in general are
[00:59:35] at their best when their storyline drittin you know and they have narratives associated with them so
[00:59:41] chris paul versus scott foster makes me matter or when scott foster threw tim dunking up the game for
[00:59:48] laughing you know like no that i was no that was carfor it that was carfor it yeah but when that happened
[00:59:55] about erick luiz defainked like his whole family's self-exfans yeah yeah he had a burner account
[01:00:03] yeah they don't talk about it they don't talk about yeah so mba because it's i think the money
[01:00:09] i think the money in the mba because there's so many bets over the hunders so many different players
[01:00:16] are but i think these are more rogue individuals that are acting on their own accord versus
[01:00:25] david silver or adam silver calling down and saying we need this to happen or
[01:00:32] godel saying that i want my homes into super bowl like i don't think it's that simple
[01:00:37] but the one thing that is happening because you know back to john tain porter and showhey
[01:00:44] one thing that is happening though is that these leagues are very
[01:00:49] openly partnering with these gambling agencies now you know because before there was talk about how
[01:00:57] there wasn't going to be an mba team in vegas because of gambling and all this and all that
[01:01:03] but yeah it was like you didn't they didn't want to profess no team of vegas because of the game
[01:01:08] and but we have a college there right but you but you didn't want that there but now you don't
[01:01:14] have to be in vegas to bet you can bet from anywhere so and we've seen NFL players james and
[01:01:20] Williams Calvin Ridley we've seen NFL izea rogers we've seen NFL players get caught up in these
[01:01:28] fandall things now but it was like plus one thousand for really to sign with the titans
[01:01:34] as someone was like mystery better bet's ten million dollars on really to the titans right
[01:01:40] right yeah so so i think it's individual in the nefarious individuals that have agendas
[01:01:48] that do things i don't think it's the actual league that is making calls to set these things up
[01:01:56] that's the thing i don't when people say it's rigged and their argument is that like their argument
[01:02:03] is that the league wants this is like i don't i think it's too many it's too much going on in a league
[01:02:11] with like we talked about uh like like did was Jordan three weeks rigged like like jewelry holiday
[01:02:20] jewelry holiday running to a screen as arm you can't lift his arm like things like that happen
[01:02:24] like yannis you know strand of the keelies or whatever he can't play for a few days
[01:02:29] or someone just flat out getting hurt and they can't play it's like the NBA wanting the lakers
[01:02:34] and the the finals but if LeBron misses substantial time in the playoffs and 80 is only playing at 70
[01:02:40] percent how are they really going to be able to to manufacture a situation where they beat Denver
[01:02:48] with no LeBron and a hampered AB right it's like the shot still got to go in like you can't call
[01:02:53] 60 files on Denver and be in keep it up the NBA if the NBA could get Lakers Celtics or Lakers
[01:03:00] Knicks every year they would be happy fat cats you know um but it doesn't even see at this
[01:03:08] point they would take Knicks Clipper just to get the LA market right just just just for it to be LA
[01:03:14] you know and but like usually if
[01:03:17] if the fans make me mad because they act like they get money off of this so like you know I don't
[01:03:26] want to watch Phoenix Milwaukee or like back when it was New Jersey against the Lakers it was like
[01:03:30] who wants to or um Jersey against the Spurs it was like who wants Jersey in the finals
[01:03:37] you know and it's like they earned it they earned it it got there they won they didn't
[01:03:42] was necessary to get there why not if you're a basketball fan you'll watch and so so so like
[01:03:49] I just don't for me to believe that sports was rigged
[01:03:57] it had to be the referees it because I'm gonna look up the average salary of an NBA
[01:04:02] referee I think I think that if the chiefs win the Super Bowl next year
[01:04:07] and become the first team to three people I think people are going to run with the rig talk you know
[01:04:16] because it's something that Tom Brady never did um trying to set up my homes like the goat conversation
[01:04:26] with Brady and my homes and that's what I'm saying like I don't know I don't think the league
[01:04:32] cares that much about an individual player like I just come see what people this week is like
[01:04:39] I know the government cares about people so I don't think I don't think they care so much about
[01:04:47] people that they're spying on you like what are you like what makes you so important that the
[01:04:54] government has to curtail their daily operations to focus on you I don't know if you're that high
[01:05:00] on their scale so I don't think the NFL cares if patching my homes is more successful I think they care
[01:05:09] that there's not players in the league that's making the league look bad so I think they'll black
[01:05:17] I think I think they probably are focused more on a guy like Antonio Brown and make sure he doesn't
[01:05:23] come back in the league versus who's in the league because I don't think because I don't think they need
[01:05:29] they don't need the players to prop them up because on their own the shield will do all of the heavy
[01:05:36] lifting of the provision everything else what they don't want is someone bringing it down and they
[01:05:43] have to answer for it because it doesn't really impact their money it just impacts the Gidele
[01:05:49] clean cut owners image so I firmly believe that a guy like if Levillon Bell said he was blackball
[01:05:56] or if Antonio Brown said he was blackballed or Ryan Leaf said something like hey they didn't
[01:06:01] want me anywhere near any NFL teams after I did my time in prison because you had a couple of drug
[01:06:06] convictions and something like that if he says that I would believe that but they do that deliberately
[01:06:11] so when guys come on say it I'm like that's not a rigging like they'd rather suppress you versus trying
[01:06:17] to calculate motivate some kind of experiment that's going to be rigged the thing that I'm looking
[01:06:25] at here with this NBA these rest only make 250 to 550 thousand year I know that I say only
[01:06:33] like that's not a low sum or a John Taylor Porter John Taylor only makes 415,000 yeah but his brother
[01:06:40] has a hundred million dollar contract so highlight me bro yeah baby brother over here like
[01:06:47] I think I think he's squared away but so if if I'm repping so it's like $600 per game
[01:07:00] roughly 250 thousand dollars a year for entry level rest $3,500 per game for season professional
[01:07:07] ref all right let me let me let me let me ask you something real quick if I get if I'm getting if
[01:07:11] you if I'm if I'm doing illegal stuff I'm running a legal ring and I need you to call multiple files
[01:07:18] on Julius Randall get them out of the game so he hits his under and I'm paying you 10 g's just for
[01:07:24] that night then you're making three times your salary and one game in is only 10,000 so if I'm
[01:07:35] getting real money you can entice me with 10,000 if I'm on again 600 or 600 between 6,500 a game
[01:07:43] and you got a guy's like listen I'm gonna give you 15,000 to call four files on Julius Randall throughout
[01:07:47] the game I'm quadrupling ten times over my game salary my game check I'm getting none of the
[01:07:55] table and getting this fly restaurant seat that's the part so if you don't have these professional
[01:08:00] rest at a paid rate that doesn't entice them because like you said old boy making $400,000
[01:08:08] if his brother didn't have a hundred million dollar contract I wouldn't slap him but like if
[01:08:12] you don't have a brother just making that kind of money and you know you getting they told you
[01:08:16] have practice you get 15 minutes you like go I might get eight shots today but if they put me on
[01:08:22] I'm not gonna make them I'm gonna take bad shots when I'm getting my 15 minutes go ahead but
[01:08:27] I'm a thousand on whatever see for me I think it's just hard for me because I think of the things
[01:08:34] that have happened like why has Duke and North Carolina not played in a national title game you know
[01:08:40] uh things like that like that that's where like for me like there's obvious things that
[01:08:46] so you're saying it has to be rigged to give to give me the story right so what I was gonna ask you was
[01:08:56] are there any moments that you could think of because obviously there was the Lakers King's thing
[01:09:01] back in the day in 2002 but are there any moments that you feel like you truly sat back and was
[01:09:10] like could it be rigged like is there anything that stands out in your memory that just seems like
[01:09:18] this is not on the up and up I got one I just got one I then you heard me talk about it before
[01:09:29] I don't recall watching the game thinking I rewatched the highlights of this past Super Bowl
[01:09:38] and I did see at least three holding calls and can see that they get called but San Francisco has
[01:09:46] a darling head coach who's the son of a coach who also wants to roll so like either story works
[01:09:52] right I don't think and I'm sure if we searched for we could find San Francisco with some
[01:09:57] whole same thing but they just their drives are so short because like their impactful drives are
[01:10:02] short because it can't see these defense um I don't I can't I can't really recall well you know what
[01:10:09] I'm gonna say you already know what I'm gonna say because we've had this conversation before
[01:10:15] which one is that one Chris later stepped on our boys chess and they get kicked out of the game?
[01:10:19] Nope no I think that was just one of those referees don't want to decide the game more than it was
[01:10:26] like something actual like you can't kick out Christian late ner with five seconds left in a game
[01:10:32] you know what I mean like yeah I think I was more when I was younger I might have said that but
[01:10:37] now I'm like nah that you know no for me it was the three one come back
[01:10:41] the calves golden state that was the one because you know how I feel about why did you
[01:10:50] y'all discipline Dremon for the Stephen Adams stuff you know what I mean it had to be when
[01:10:56] it was a culmination versus nippin in the book because like I would rather you kick a dude out
[01:11:03] in a either a second round or conference finals series versus like game four or five of the NBA finals
[01:11:11] yeah I give you that but in the same sense it wasn't as if we didn't have a litany of HD evidence
[01:11:18] of his behavior no but I'm just playing until he went up against the cash cow
[01:11:27] but even with that he is a tyrant to referees balls season long like all season long
[01:11:35] and Nick Wright has a theory that he was like sometimes with Dremons in that mood
[01:11:39] he'll get a silly tech early in an important game golden state Boston golden state Sacramento
[01:11:47] golden state LA golden state mind like a big game that's nasty televised I'll get a tech early
[01:11:53] and then he knows the referees won't give him that second one because it's prime NBA Sunday
[01:12:00] a prime time game or Christmas game or whatever I truly just braids in the whole game
[01:12:06] and he does it all the time I truly believe and obviously I have no evidence
[01:12:12] but I truly believe that if that was a month shumper to not LeBron James or if that was
[01:12:17] chaining channing fry or Richard Jefferson and not LeBron James I don't know if he gets suspended
[01:12:25] you know and then I told you did he get did he get a tech on the play like
[01:12:31] because I can't remember I can't remember if he finished the game and then he gets suspended afterwards
[01:12:36] if you didn't get a tech and there was talk in the media about whether he would get suspended
[01:12:41] but I don't think anybody actually thought that the league was going to suspend him because it
[01:12:46] was defiant you know what I mean I don't think so I think there was a lot of pushback of you're
[01:12:51] you're you're you're you're lack of evidence but you're compelling
[01:12:57] uh vocalization of what you would you think is it's it's making me think yeah I don't have the evidence
[01:13:04] but but you know but like honestly I think in the same sense he is probably insufferable
[01:13:12] I'm sure he is but this but this is like you know what but this is the thing it wasn't
[01:13:18] the same though it wasn't just that game though so he got suspended so obviously the calves one
[01:13:23] game file so now he's back for two more games so now I'm going to state no more excuses he's back
[01:13:30] go win the series but then game six that was the game where step through the mom piece me cut
[01:13:37] and part of that was Cleveland shot I think it was 23 throws in the first quarter you know and like
[01:13:43] they were like people were like well they were just aggressive and going to the basket and I'm
[01:13:47] like they aggressive going to the basket all the time they shoot no damn 23 throws in the first
[01:13:51] quarter because I do believe that the NBA plays how can I word this there's a there's a momentum
[01:14:01] to the games so like you see games because we've seen LeBron file out of the playoff game before
[01:14:08] you know what I mean there's there's games where Phil Jackson or somebody would get into the media
[01:14:14] and say oh they've been falling shack or Kobe and getting away with it for the last two games
[01:14:23] and then the very next game that team that they're playing their star player will pick up two
[01:14:29] files or whoever's guarding shack or whatever will pick up two early files sit out for the first
[01:14:35] quarter and now you set the tone of a game you didn't bring it but you manipulated it instead of
[01:14:41] a tone so I think that's what they did in game six I think that they set the tone of
[01:14:47] Golden State y'all not winning this game and when I go back and watch it because I've watched this game
[01:14:52] a few times because we've talked about this a few times like every time they so Cleveland was up
[01:14:58] by like 20 very very very early and yeah I'm just I'm just getting I'm getting the free throw stats
[01:15:04] there were times there were times where Golden State would get it back to single digits maybe they
[01:15:10] would get it to eight and then files would happen like it was like almost instantaneous of
[01:15:17] Golden State just hit a shot here comes a whistle and there was a game in 2010 that I remember
[01:15:26] NCAA tournament Duke against Baylor I don't know if it was the sweet 16 or the elite eight
[01:15:31] but Duke won the national title that year and it was like the same type thing where Duke had
[01:15:39] control of the game so you can't say the refs helped Duke because Duke had control but it was just
[01:15:46] that whenever Baylor made a run and cut it down to like five there would be a charge out of nowhere
[01:15:53] like that's not a charge or all of a sudden all these tick-tack things happen and then before you
[01:16:01] blink Duke's back up 11 again and then you just keep going back and forth between cutting it to seven
[01:16:07] now it's 11 cutting it to seven now it's 11 yeah but okay if we look at okay and that this the series
[01:16:16] Cleveland shot 20 free throws in game one they still lost by 15 they went like 18 for 20
[01:16:24] carry shot 12 you want to level 12 the Golden State Warriors are three points soon team
[01:16:30] finish at 10 free throws right game two they shot
[01:16:42] 10 as well go and say shot 10 free throws
[01:16:46] Cleveland shot 24 they still lost like one oh yeah it was low up yeah yeah
[01:16:54] and then when they went to Cleveland go to state shot 26 free throws in the game three that they lost
[01:17:04] and Cavaliers shot 17 so what's it like like the free throws were they
[01:17:14] Cleveland should more free throws for the most part no they were and then and then go to
[01:17:17] state went up 3 1 and then that's when Drey Munga suspended in game for game four game five
[01:17:24] four game five and then game six was the game that Cleveland just shot I think they broke a record
[01:17:32] for free throws in the first quarter and finals or it was something like that like
[01:17:37] it was very they shot like 19 or 20 free throws in the first quarter jumped out to an early early
[01:17:42] lead got up 20 at some point so in game six yeah Golden State came back a few times got it within
[01:17:50] single digits because that was like I said that was the game stuff through the mouthpiece and you know
[01:17:56] I if I want to if I remember correctly that was the game where the meme where LeBron was screaming on
[01:18:02] stuff like when he blocked this shot yeah it was that game I think that was all the same game
[01:18:09] I think that game just was left a little tighter because Golden State shot 29 free throws that game and
[01:18:16] but it's not about but it's not always about the number of yeah it's winning it cleansed it cleanses
[01:18:23] it cleanses at 30 shot 32 would you keep mind a three point shooting team shooting 29 free throws
[01:18:27] I thought that was there's a lot of whistles but but what was what was Cleveland doing
[01:18:33] that they don't normally do that got them 20 free throws in a quarter versus over the course of a game
[01:18:41] so like yes Cleveland is going to shoot more free throws than Golden State that's just how it works
[01:18:47] Miami was probably gonna shoot more free throws than the Mavericks when they played him you know
[01:18:51] the name that's just how it works but what was Cleveland doing that was so different
[01:18:56] that got them 20 free throws in one quarter and then like I said the numbers bear out but
[01:19:05] the free throws like the whistles were happening when Golden State would make their run
[01:19:12] you know what I mean and then Golden State and then I think game seven
[01:19:16] they just kicked their feet up and said let them play yeah they went 10 for 13
[01:19:22] uh Cleveland won 21 for 25 the branch at 10 Shumper hit three hit all three of his Kyrie hit all four
[01:19:31] his and saying that's what I'm saying like that's just odd to me that you know especially in a league where
[01:19:37] we talk about superstar calls and we talk about momentum coaches you know coach K was good at this
[01:19:45] like berate and the refs and then all of a sudden Duke is on the free throw line every time you blink
[01:19:50] you know um so and I still want you to do that too in the press conference yeah and that's
[01:19:56] what I'm saying so so but game seven I think they were just like we're here roll the ball out
[01:20:02] let them play and you remember the score of that game was like 93 to 89 or something
[01:20:07] yeah very grabby yeah so grabby like let them play this is game seven so I don't think it was rigged
[01:20:13] in the sense of we got to help Cleveland win this series but if there was a series that you saw
[01:20:20] where someone introduced ulterior motivations yes that's the one you remember yeah because I mean
[01:20:27] they were up three one and I think you know like I said more than likely they were going to win game five
[01:20:31] just because drape mom was out there was gonna be a high probability that Cleveland was going to
[01:20:36] win that game you know what I mean now he's back for game six he's a little neutered maybe like
[01:20:42] attitude wise he's gonna not jump the gun like you on the behavior yeah and you know what I mean
[01:20:48] and now but Cleveland is still getting rewarded with files timely files and so I don't think it was
[01:20:56] like hey we want LeBron to come back from three one me the first person to do it so now his leg is
[01:21:03] I don't think it's anything like that I just think it was the NBA like we got to know this
[01:21:08] series is best weekend like we're building a rivalry here Cleveland because they played what
[01:21:14] years when you think in that same regard they would want the 73 and 19 to be to win outright you know
[01:21:24] when not necessarily because you also have because that establishes your dynasty that establishes
[01:21:32] your your villain but you don't need that per se like you know what I mean like so like you had
[01:21:38] liquor Celtics in the 80s it's out west where you because we know how to ease coast is we're not
[01:21:44] watching too many games at the time of clock most you got to go to work at four to six o'clock
[01:21:48] yeah you have you have established a west coast villain like them would back the back championships
[01:21:54] over LeBron whose people you know he was highly regarded as he was in the goat conversation even
[01:22:00] back then even when he only had one chip at that point no I think you want me to at that point
[01:22:05] in that scenario I think you want the rivalry because like you know what branded the NBA it was
[01:22:12] magic versus bird you know so when Jordan came up or like okay Magic Bird Isaiah came in so
[01:22:19] then you had like Isaiah Magic for a little bit Jordan came up Jordan didn't have a rival like
[01:22:26] they emphasized Utah they beat all different teams in their championships he missed the two years
[01:22:33] the Rockets beat two different teams but he had he had the the the trade rivalry right before
[01:22:39] the championship right right and then and then you had the Rockets beat two different teams you know
[01:22:46] in their championships then the Bulls came back the Seattle did the Utah back the back back back
[01:22:54] you know you had the lockout season you know or the strike or whatever it was the shorten season
[01:23:01] spurs won that title then you went Lakers three Pete but against different teams then the Spurs
[01:23:08] started alternating but there were so there were so there were dynasties but there was no real
[01:23:13] rival like it wasn't Magic versus Bird so so so Steph and LeBron was the first time that we had
[01:23:22] Magic versus Bird again from the standpoint of not necessarily these two teams but these players
[01:23:30] are playing against one another in the finals and then of course the rant went to go to state after
[01:23:35] that so like you had to have something like you couldn't have LeBron lose four straight finals
[01:23:44] you know what I mean so so that's what I mean and I'm not saying that the league set that up
[01:23:49] I'm just saying like when I think about it it just kind of makes sense you know from that standpoint
[01:23:56] and game seven was just let them play Steph made the bonehead pass you know and I thought the
[01:24:04] game was like you did that that's when I thought going to state lost the game I thought that was
[01:24:10] the moment and then of course LeBron had the block later um so so so that was but that's the only time
[01:24:17] so I'm not trying to say it's like a it's a constant thing that that was the one time where
[01:24:25] it entered my mind like I still don't necessarily believe it was rigged but that was the one time
[01:24:30] where I was like that seems a little odd you know that was a little odd but in the NFL I don't
[01:24:38] really have those moments like I don't really have like there was one super bowl that I remember
[01:24:44] which was or two super bowls that involved the same team so there was the Nilo Donald Super Bowl
[01:24:52] when he threw it straight through there you know there was that one and then obviously I think
[01:24:58] that just was a mediocre quarterback but a great defense that ended up in the Super Bowl and then
[01:25:03] they were probably would have done it too and then there was one when I was deployed they played
[01:25:10] Seattle in the Super Bowl Hasselbeck um Jackson Willie Parker ran the long touchdown bin didn't score on
[01:25:18] that touchdown yeah he was definitely short you know they called Darryl Jackson for that pass
[01:25:22] in the appearance that Michael Irving does every time he touches the ball his arm was extended it
[01:25:28] was but so do Michael Irving so do Deandre Hopkins you got to lead backwards and hit Michael Irving
[01:25:35] hit you with the elbow you know but that but that's super bowl I was like I don't know there's
[01:25:41] like some fishy stuff going away but I still wouldn't go to rigged but it was just like
[01:25:48] that's very fishy like I know a lot of people think the NFL want the chiefs
[01:25:53] but there's nothing that really stands out during the chiefs run that I'm like oh I don't know
[01:25:58] about that if Roma doons a slips to the chiefs or somebody trades you know it's something like
[01:26:09] that happens where it's like you get like a certain player I still was like oh like Patrick
[01:26:16] you into the mix yeah that's that's my regard it is like that was pretty well think about it now
[01:26:23] that you bring it up now that you bring it up think about why you should have gone to the nicks
[01:26:27] if that's the case but think about it though LeBron leaves Cleveland they get the number one
[01:26:32] draft picked twice you know back-to-back if I remember correctly yeah they got two and four the two
[01:26:41] in the middle I think and then the Hornets or the Pelicans whatever they were at the time when
[01:26:46] they were still in New Orleans owned by the league ends up with the number one draft pick
[01:26:53] so like there are like moments that make them think I think they just don't happen enough to wear
[01:26:59] yeah but if if I'm gonna rig I'm Zion's in New York he's the New Orleans doesn't get that
[01:27:07] number one overall pick that year because the nicks the nicks were ready they these guys are already
[01:27:13] have their personalized jerseys with number one on it they just knew and when it's said in New
[01:27:18] Orleans I was like yeah I thought the NBA was rigged and when that didn't happen I was like yeah
[01:27:26] probably is it but it still could be but it still could be because you know we always argue about
[01:27:32] the small markets and everything you know so how how better they need a superstar at small market
[01:27:38] better to get a small market I mean John Marant with the Memphis at two you know what I mean like
[01:27:44] like these things I don't know you know what I mean like so so like this year you can't really do it
[01:27:50] because you know outside of Winby I don't know if there was anybody that like as good as people
[01:27:58] think school him and so Winby going to San Antonio is the same thing okay because it's
[01:28:03] yeah it is because the first thing they said was Tim Duncan and all this kind of stuff you know
[01:28:08] you know like San Antonio just seems to look like that like they got David Robinson
[01:28:13] they got Tim Duncan now they got Winby it seems to be like a lineage thing if you will
[01:28:19] but I still don't think because like there's enough dumb teams like Michael Jordan taking people
[01:28:25] over Yannis like taking Cody Zeller over Yannis like to where you're like why wouldn't they want
[01:28:30] Michael Jordan to have the team that's owned by Michael Jordan why wouldn't they want that team
[01:28:36] to be successful yeah yeah not to take out a win the title not that they even got to be a contender
[01:28:41] like another scout telling him yeah don't take that guy yeah like you know what I mean
[01:28:46] League stepping in and saying like hey don't take Michael Kid Gilchrist or like you know what I mean
[01:28:54] like that's gonna be like this so you can get John Wall you know or whatever like you don't
[01:29:00] have any like so there's enough that doesn't happen like but even those little moments that I think
[01:29:07] I see it doesn't happen enough for me to buy in and say this is being done like there might be a
[01:29:15] moment or two where things are sketchy but it's like when people talk about flatters like like
[01:29:24] you know how many people would have to be in on that to pull that off how much effort and concealing
[01:29:29] you'd have especially because some of this stuff that is like it's an ice wall with guns yeah
[01:29:37] like who's man in an ice wall with guns what does this game do I especially would all just
[01:29:42] global warming talk you know like like they have nuclear weapons on the other side of the wall and
[01:29:47] they're doing like yeah yeah earth was flat and that's fine like okay but like when you add in this
[01:29:55] video game level conspiracy nonsense it's like okay you lose your you lose your salt I do love
[01:30:00] the whole Australia is not real I do like that yeah yeah like I swear on my last deployment
[01:30:08] on my last deployment I was the the exact foot of commander so you know I was doing like processing
[01:30:15] the metals and all that kind of stuff through absent and whatnot so one day there's this hip hop
[01:30:22] website that I like to read and during my shift I literally sat there and went through 82 pages
[01:30:32] of flatter discussion like just reading it was so entertaining like I don't believe that the
[01:30:37] earth is flat but it was so entertaining listening to all the theories and we're deployed the
[01:30:43] coons on I went through hours of illuminati video footage on youtube I was sucked in yeah
[01:30:51] and the reduces of it but like hours every day for like a month I was at work and I was on mids
[01:31:00] it's like midnight my light was off my office I just watched these videos but once again it's like
[01:31:07] you you have a simple outlook on it's like okay this could be rigged because of this I think an
[01:31:12] NBA game could be fixed because if I'm running you know like a book you think I can get
[01:31:21] it's not a little for season could be fixed not a season yeah I think like you can manipulate
[01:31:26] it I'll come especially with this gambling and the betting everything else by just telling
[01:31:30] the ref I'll give you 20 grand and we just talked about how since all-star break scoring is down
[01:31:36] you know free throws are down so they obviously are mad because all-star games yeah so yeah
[01:31:42] obviously chin manipulate the game you know what I mean but we had a game that the night was like
[01:31:47] 150 145 but the cream still rises to the top like like like you're not going to manipulate it to
[01:31:53] the point where the wizards are just going to start beating the Celtics yeah you know to be like
[01:32:00] I don't know if you can get that conventional with it but I don't know we'll see but ladies and
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