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[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_01]: It is I, two-five, you're on Orthodox statistician!

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And tonight, you're going to find out all the reasons that I hate beyond sounds!

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm real, that's just what y'all are going to say when I start talking!

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, I got with me the even kill!

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Born in Texas, raised in VA, represented New York,

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_01]: trying over the loss of the New York or the New Jersey next to this day,

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: representing the whole, Princeton, Brock Durves, and everything in between team nets to Millville.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_01]: He is Mr. Logic!

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You're...

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And I got one more favor to ask!

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[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Tonight we're going to talk about the big 12, but of course we're going to get y'all started the right way!

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We're getting off my chest!

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So, Mr. Logic, I was sitting up in here,

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: minding my business, and then these people be saying things that they shouldn't say!

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Or at least in my view.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So the last couple of weeks we've been talking about losers!

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So let me talk about another one!

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Carmelo Anthony!

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Carmelo Anthony!

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's been talking about how he's not going to trade.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: He wouldn't trade any of his gold medals.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_01]: To win an NBA title, or I guess it was all three gold medals,

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_01]: the winning an NBA title.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was just plus third like,

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_01]: why?

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like you grew up,

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: hoping, and trying to practice, and make yourself the best player that you could be.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_01]: When you're in the driveway,

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and you do the three, two, one!

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And you ain't talking about no gold medal.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the dream team was out here winning games by 68 points.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't think he was going to need a buzzer,

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_01]: beater to get a gold medal.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So then you sit up here on a gold medal team with your home boys,

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_01]: which is fine.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that's why you don't want to trade it.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But then you got people like Kobe on the team.

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Just other people that can steal your shot!

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the NBA title makes you a legend.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: The gold medal makes you one of many.

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And we'll get back to that in a little bit,

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: because I'm sure Mr. Logimal going to have some things to say.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But with that being said,

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_01]: it makes everything clear.

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Carmelo had a chance to go to Chicago.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But he was like,

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_01]: no, I want to go to New York!

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he had a chance to join the heatals.

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_01]: is that what he wanted to go back home?

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is fine?

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't say I'm not going to somebody from going back home.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But I am going to not be for making a bad decision.

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So you know, so at the end of the day,

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying scrim the gold medals.

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that at all.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying that I think the NBA title holds a little bit more value.

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is good.

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a good topic to start off with.

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't,

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I know that as far as the NBA title holds,

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, holding more weight.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I get that part.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But I can understand that one of the trade is medals.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Essentially,

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_03]: the gold medal tournament in the Olympics

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_03]: is about six to eight games give or take.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Because obviously,

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_03]: he's rented the Uplominary Games.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_03]: The NCAA tournament is six games.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So he wouldn't, I pretty sure you wouldn't ask him to trade his,

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_03]: you know,

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_03]: as NCAA national title for NBA championship.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's essentially the same format.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_03]: You play pretty well all year.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And then you get in this essentially one and done tournament

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_03]: to the latter end of the year to determine the champion.

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's the same basic format.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And he wouldn't trade his national championship for a title either.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he'd look at it this way.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I went through the experience of getting the gold medal.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how you should track that just for this hypothetical idea

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_03]: that I could have won in the NBA championship.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he looks at it, you know what?

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I won these gold medals.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I know the work that went into it.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Because you know,

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_03]: as after the season, the camaraderie,

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_03]: you've been battling with these guys pretty much a whole basketball career

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_03]: as far as, you know,

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_03]: be a young plan on the AAU circus and just different.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_03]: So you've known the way you weighed in the bronze

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_03]: and Chris Baxnoy's guys for so many years

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_03]: to join up with them

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_03]: and then win this gold medal for your country.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Especially it, because he was on the team of one of the bronze medals.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So winning the three gold after that,

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it probably weighs more than we give it credit for.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, it might not weigh as much as NBA title,

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_03]: but I can understand why he was like, you know what?

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I respect him.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_03]: You go medals just as much I respect NBA title

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_03]: and I wouldn't trade that experience just for the other one.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Because we talked about his NBA titles.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_03]: That's really make you immortal.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Because soon as you win the championship,

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_03]: no one, no one annoyed you is like a great all-time champion

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_03]: because another guy's coming around the next year.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But this is not the thing.

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Another team was coming around the next year.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_03]: The boss is something he's won that championship in 2008.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And we get annoyed with how much they talk about that.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think this is the thing though,

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: you know what's that old sand?

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Heroes are remembered.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_01]: The legends never die.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Carmelo Anthony's NBA titles

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_01]: would have been different from everybody else's to some degree.

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, if you were to go on a route to that,

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, not even trying to look, you know, all that.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But all I'm saying is like, you know, New York hasn't won a title since the 70s.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and they've been dying for titles,

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Patrick, you and King, so close a few times.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: XYZ, he wins that title in New York.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's a made man.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he wins a title in Denver.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: He would have beat YoKitch to it.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Denver wouldn't have been, you know, having this problem of

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: we go give somebody number 15.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and you would have been solidified.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That would have been Denver's first NBA title in history.

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You gave that up for what?

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, and I get it, right?

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we were in the military.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, so people want to honor America and do all these things.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's fine.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But you didn't, in my opinion, at least.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't, people don't spin their whole life unless your track star

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: or something other than that.

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're in the NBA, your main goal is not to win a goal medal.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, saying it's just an easy cop out like you said because he did

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: win the goal medal.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_03]: If you want to get title, I see if he was in a position aware he could have won an

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_03]: NBA title.

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_03]: He was on the verge because that's the thing.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I think we've kind of forgotten how difficult it is to win an NBA title

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_03]: because I only a handful of guys in recent history, a handful of teams

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_03]: that have done it.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Or last year, 25 years.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but even with that, it's still very difficult.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Look at the last few NBA was like six years in the world to different champion.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_03]: You can book in like Golden State mixed in there if you go back like seven or eight

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_03]: years.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But for the last six seasons of different champion.

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's very difficult to even make it to that to that space.

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_03]: He never made it that far.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But what he did do is actually win these gold medals.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And like I said, winning the championship, you would think what immortalize you

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_03]: but it doesn't.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Like people just try to do it more.

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Like dissecting even more.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to title in New York, I'm telling you like we would be.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Then I've been like, oh he's doing this dude in 2030 because they ain't going

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: win or 27 because they ain't going win another one anyway.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's a guy who want to title in Cleveland and people still should on that.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just a matter of just going that.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, people should on that.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_03]: They should on that.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_03]: They should on that.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_03]: They wouldn't like win game five of old boy didn't get suspended blah blah blah blah.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I go we'll get into that later with some of you content providers.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_03]: But like I said, I understand where we're just coming from is like listen,

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I never he never made if you would have lost NBA finals this year.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Like if he was on a team this year, if he was on Dallas and then went to the Olympics

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_03]: and won the gold medal, you like yo I think this gold medal is better than an NBA championship.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: That was in Bolshevik because he would have had the NBA championship real opportunity

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_03]: in his hands and then what it lost it versus never getting there.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like listen, I don't even know what that feels like, but I do know what it feels like to win

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_03]: in that championship and win these gold medals.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So like that's what he has.

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know how you got to take your pressure, appreciate it.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I can like divorce yourself from the feeling of like I the confetti fell on.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_03]: No, what divorce yourself from like don't what the feeling?

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah don't bring that in here.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Listen, that means like for.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact for me, she never would to be as far as the fact for me is like I have three gold medals.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So the fact is I can't hypothetically tell you what would feel better.

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I know that's the fact that I'm not giving up this fact.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be hyper medical dream team to know it done.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact remains that I'm not given up these actual factual gold medals for it.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Hypothetical championship just a thrust me to an argument of why didn't he win more and now like what the fuck?

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I gave him all these medals just to be in this conversation where no one satisfied.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm satisfied as a player with these medals in this national championship.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I know you didn't mention that champion.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that piece.

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_03]: He's talking.

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Top 10 all time in scoring and NBA is like there's other things that happen in the league with the championships.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't go to the next time anybody interviews car mellow Anthony ask him if he would rather be the number 25 score and have a title or the number nine score and not have a title.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he'll still say nine because he did that.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I think the problem is we have so much information and we have so much data that we won all these hypothetical things to just kind of.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, I'm a stick with the actual thing.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a stick with the fact I'm top 10 all time in NBA score.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I got three gold medals in that championship.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_03]: My son's going to be a top five pick here in the next couple years.

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Those are the facts.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think he's locked into that because I don't think our mellow is ever.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he ever bought into this whole.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I got him in the championship.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't I don't recall here in your own room.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't I understand guys hello champion.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I can win the game everyone says that but we also know to guys have left good teams and gone the other teams for money.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So we could cut the cap right there because you don't play the win the game.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Right way.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Because we're having a lot of NBA.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe back in the like anybody.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't sound a big anybody who sounded a big contract with Detroit in the last 15 years.

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_03]: They went there because of the money.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_03]: You didn't go to the win championship.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_01]: If you had to Orlando before, if you were like people were leaving gold and state.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just to go to Detroit.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, cool.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't Kevin to rent leave.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Go say to go to Brooklyn with Kyrie for the money.

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_01]: He was going to win titles.

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't go to Brooklyn because he was like,

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Brooklyn had.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't trade it.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_01]: They traded the whole team.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You just said, but Carmelo right.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: We're trading our whole team.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: They were like, I'm about to renew my boy.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_03]: They knew who was on that squad.

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_03]: They knew who was available in that squad.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and they operated themselves.

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_03]: These dudes above get a body here.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_03]: They were already in great situations.

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_03]: They were in the last middle.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like Cleveland because I want to be the man.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_03]: No, so it's not all about winning the championship.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It was a Boston.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_02]: We're changing to say to the team.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_03]: He left the team when he just went to the final two years in a row.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to be a little bit more of a big goal.

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not about shit.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_03]: What if Kyrie would have went to say, no, they're trading from the Boston.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_03]: They traded and they did them a favor.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_03]: They could have known Washington.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't choose, he didn't choose to go to Boston.

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I know.

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a Washington.

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I brought him up because you said you played for championships.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You said no, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_03]: You just said you played to win the game.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I said, that's how many of my money.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what you did.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_03]: You left the money.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what you did.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was in a favor as the fact saying so this is my opinion, and I will also go back to

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_03]: conversation, I guess.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Guys also lead championship teams to be the man somewhere.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's not all about winning.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes you just about cash and ego and come out with Carmela Sano, listen, I didn't

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_03]: win my championship.

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to look back on my career like then, I would trade all this.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess he's not living in that through that, looking at it through that lens, which is

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_03]: perfectly fine to me.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that everybody, I don't think the championship is an end all be all for the overall

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_03]: legacy of every small career because Matt Madagliss is not possible.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: See this is the only one show somebody like we're trying to think of a name room.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That's different if we're talking about somebody like say, I hear a Jackson.

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, saying we're talking about the ninth all down the floor.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And NBA history.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But the legacy piece is something that we, the fact that I hate the word legacy, we're on,

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_03]: we're in the media now.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_03]: We're technically we are a sports media conglomerate.

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_03]: We have leverage that thing.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_03]: These guys don't walk around saying I do this for my legacy.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that was something that was started and shows like first take cold pizza,

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_03]: uh, undisputed all these shows.

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody else is so concerned with Kevin,

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_03]: they're much like it's he with Carmella's legacy stuff, like it's all these legacy things.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like I don't think the players look at it that way.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I think the players understand it is difficult to get from preseason to championship.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, the little players.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Coach you want, but Kobe played 20 years.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_03]: He was a loser, 15 and those years.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a 75% of the time.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_03]: That's fine.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what we do now.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Jordan played 15 seasons.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You can add to baseball years.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_03]: He failed completely in baseball and for nine basketball seasons he failed.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_03]: He was a play.

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, let's understand.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: So like, hey, why we added we got to go to do how about you get your good enough.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just so we can get wrong.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I get there and take all my next piece.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: This is my good off my chest.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't be trying to take over my shit.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And we rolling it is next week.

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm on it.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm on it right now by saying this, like I was mentioned in before.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_03]: We in sports media, whether you're a small podcast or a singular podcast,

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_03]: you're on TV.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yo, like keep it on honey and get your fucking feelings out of it.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Like stop what just these fantasy football ideas and these fancy basketball ideas.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_03]: The run, a step aren't going to be on the same team.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_03]: We don't need to propose these hypothetical trades.

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Please stop sending out start binge cut.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sick of that is a three-tile argument.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Stop sending out bill's best thing to $15.

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's have real conversations about sport this going on.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And please stop with the hate.

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_03]: We are grown men.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Why we out here hating on grown men.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Calling out people's families.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Use of words like Ron sexual.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking to an individual.

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_03]: He knows I'm talking about it is the most ridiculous.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Use of your opportunity to speak into a microphone.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_03]: So please use these opportunities wisely.

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have a lot of them.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't spend this whole time saying ass-in-line ignorant stuff

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_03]: into a microphone just for clicks and likes and followers.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It is obnoxious.

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't be sharing that stuff like as you sit in some grand information.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_03]: It sounds childish.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It sounds childish when you make these arguments.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And you get mad when someone does not have the same thing.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Me and Mike just had a 15 minute conversation.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_03]: She didn't agree at all.

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I am not upset with him.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't call him any of it.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't call him an ass-hole.

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't call him a championship,

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_03]: a co-worker or whatever that whatever the hell to earn you want to use.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't use any stupid ass terms.

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_03]: We have an articulate conversation where we presented our ideas

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_03]: and formed as men and had this conversation.

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_03]: So please stop with these childish narratives.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_03]: If shout out to Stephen A Smith,

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_03]: can you please stop playing fantasy football in your head?

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Calling Capricot is not going to be the coach and back up in Los Angeles.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_03]: This case just already gets hurt.

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I know I didn't watch the whole clip,

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_03]: but soon these starts talking.

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_03]: It makes me turn TV off.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_03]: So cut it out.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Get some researches to get you some more information.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Get some of those type of on the screen for you.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Because you guys go off the cuff.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It's completely ridiculous.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So please, for the sake of my ears and my brain do not feed this nonsense onto the internet

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_03]: and then try to share it with me.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_03]: If I'm following you, get your shit together.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Think it through.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Write it out.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Brain storm.

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Do something.

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't just keep sharing this stuff that's completely

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_03]: ass-lined because it's bothering me and I waste my unlimited data on it.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_03]: So please cut it out.

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Jim Harbaugh is nothing else but loyal, right?

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he got Greg Roman on that over there.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to get cappernick in there.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, Jim Harbaugh kind of do you want to go to war with man?

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, never turn his back on you.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, find out that when a Michigan don't have the all the jz McArthur lens

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_03]: that nasty Sam Jim is stripped in the year.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see that loyalty then C.V. goes back and coaches him up.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel you on that, I feel you on that.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, but of course, you know, we're continuing preview season

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_01]: tonight is the big 12.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So let me check in with the clown car.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_01]: We got sensitive coaches show boat and quarterbacks,

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: locker room fights and losses.

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And oh, by the way, in case you needed some guns,

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: we got 38 caliber bullets in some 9 millimeter 2.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Only talking about the Colorado buffaloes.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_03]: No, say so.

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Mr. Logison.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Tough running and Colorado.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_01]: What are you expecting to go down in Boulder this year?

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, as I look at the schedule being in a big 12,

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_03]: it does offer a few more ranked teams,

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_03]: a few more high powered offenses between, you know,

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_03]: a team from Texas and Florida.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And if I'm looking at it,

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_03]: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_03]: nine, ten, eleven, twelve games.

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I think eight and four are being overachieving season.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I think we're looking at probably more like seven and five.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I just feel, I understand beyond,

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_03]: because like I say, it's my favorite player.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And I understand what he does as individual as far as,

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_03]: like, drawn attention to himself wearing the bull's eye,

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_03]: being up front, but that's authentically him.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_03]: He was like that at Florida State.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_03]: He was like that with the Jericho on the California

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_03]: California County before he even got his name cold.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_03]: He said the giants just go try to draft me,

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_03]: but I was going to ask for so much money if they put me on railway.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he literally has been this place since the end of his new,

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_01]: he was an authentic crab, maybe though.

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Right now, I think it's probably getting more attention than he wants.

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think he's trying to protect his players.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And right now, I believe he feels like, listen, I'm still to draw.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm still to draw.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_03]: You should, I believe he wants to be spoken about.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And his team reported on the same way people reported on Alabama.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_03]: But you can't do that.

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_03]: But that's the way Alabama,

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_03]: but this is Dion, Dion, Dion thinks he's Alabama.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Dion thinks he's Clinton, which is fine.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's trying to get that, you know,

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_03]: that that that that Barvado to kind of trickle it through his team.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_03]: The problem is everybody on your team can't always match that energy.

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think when it gets too, gets little to rough to be in the weeds.

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_03]: He has to come out and be the, you know, take these, take these, I'll take the shots for them.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I believe he wants, because we didn't really hear about too many Nick Sabre reports.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Good batter and different.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_03]: It was, whatever they got.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And if a kid got arrested, you didn't hear about it.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_03]: If a kid got dismissed from the team,

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_03]: then, so that's, that's the case.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the, so does that.

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't want you on taking it personal.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: What is it?

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: What are we doing?

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Personal.

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_03]: But once again, I believe his mindset is locked into.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I am upper echelon football.

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Because they hate, like, because they ate.

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_03]: They are the draw.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_03]: They were for like two or three weeks.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_03]: But they, we've been talking about them more than any other than 12 teams.

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, think, do you think, Bailey's happy to go on in the game?

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_03]: This ridiculous, I want to, like, I'm sorry.

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Just try to, nobody talking was it though, like, you know what I'm saying?

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, somebody with some one reporter,

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: wrote a article, stating his opinion on who the best coaches in the big 12 were.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_01]: That's one person.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_03]: But how often, your team.

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Your coach is every year.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but Dion thinks he is not.

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_03]: He's above the ranking and I know it sounds crazy.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not rationalizing.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_03]: But that's part of the, I think from my opinion why he lashes off the media the way he does.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Because he won't, like, after they went to an o.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, do you believe?

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you believe?

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, Dion's one of those guys that he talks that should early.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And he holds on to it.

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But no one else tried to do.

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, and do I say that through in the clutch though?

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Guess even he probably did that.

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, one.

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a world champion, right?

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, point, point, point, point.

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_03]: World champion, what?

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Not to do it.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_03]: See, that's what I mean.

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So like, Dion can, I think Dion can handle that.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Not winning the 200 and still come back to the microphone.

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Because you'll try to take, unlike him, we'll talk to you.

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Because he's a real big, I'm up here.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm up here for the bus.

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what he had to do.

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Just like he did last season.

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, listen, sometimes you guys, the wheels on the bus go around around.

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_03]: If you're in the wheels, someone gets leadership.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, I didn't say it was selfish.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is my problem.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not the nine that is probably nine.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is my problem.

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's talk about Colorado.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get off of Dion for a second.

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So, so this is my problem.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: A team like Florida State.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_03]: That's perfect.

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a perfect.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a team like California.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to do this in this with a sound like that.

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_01]: A team like Alabama, you know, a team like Ohio State.

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_01]: They use the transfer portal to a situate what they already have.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we got five stars, litter throughout the roster.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: We got speed everywhere, but we need some depth, you know, like we might need another corner.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_01]: We might need another wide receiver because of injuries or something along those lines.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas Dion is literally just like, I'm playing mad now here.

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, saying I'm just going grab all these players from all these different places.

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you get to get cut into press conference because out of you saw the other day when a reporter had asked him about the offensive line.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, they got to build chemistry and then Dion's like, what's chemistry?

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you define that? Like, most of y'all don't even want to go home.

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_01]: He knows that and all this kind of stuff like that.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's hilarious until you get in your back blown out.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_01]: He ain't building the roster.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He's playing fantasy football.

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he's he's not out here.

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We've had to let it under the ground.

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He's just a single workshop.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to wish and hope that it works.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_03]: He said when he said last year that they were losing the trenches,

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_03]: he said once we get that figured out, you'll see a different Colorado grant it.

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_03]: They started off hot. He was riding that wave. He was riding a little lane and the rock and then three six myfee was at the game.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think some other artists and actors and everyone was coming to Colorado for the game.

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you've been to Boulder, Colorado.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of the middle of nowhere, Colorado is not going to go.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It's dope. It's a great look.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_03]: But he was getting people to come out to Colorado for football games and then it faded.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Which most things in this current era of viralness, it fades.

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_03]: The next thing happens. Another team that's really good and another team is five six seven eight

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_03]: know and they start to get the shine back.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_03]: But to build into the season when you're competing with the NFL to launch your season,

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_03]: you're competing with all the entities.

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Trusting out post on what makes you have to build something.

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_03]: You have to build the attention to get people to come in the games.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Good, bad and different. The fully metham for me with a message.

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_03]: He never lost, but everyone will buy tickets so his fights hoping that he lost.

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like that doesn't make any sense, but he would build it up to the point where he's like, I'll fight anybody in win.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I think Dion is riding that kind of wave.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Also with the fact that he brought in, you know, he thinks he got his offensive linemen dogs,

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_03]: like leaders and dogs. That's what he calls his guys and that captain's leaders and dogs.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And if he thinks he has them, he's going to talk that shit while it's weather.

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_03]: The record is zero zero because when he gets to eight and one if it does get there,

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_03]: he's going to go up to the podium and say, well, that should you was talking long as CBS where you at.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And he goes win.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_03]: But that's what Dion does. I think we're acting surprised that Dion has the pros were just reacting.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I ain't got to agree with it.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like so I love Dion and I want Colorado.

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I like I told John on the hot box. I wore my Colorado jersey.

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I was wearing Colorado jersey's, you know, way before Dion even knew where Colorado was.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, so that's first and foremost, you know what I mean?

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So, so now like, I want Colorado new well, I want Dion to do well.

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's my job to some degree. I feel it's my job to be fair.

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, saying if you say some shit and it blows up or I don't like it, I'm going to say that.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_01]: If you say some shit and I like it, and you know, I'm going to say that.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so it has nothing to do with Dion. He's just a dude that we talk about, you know, saying so anyway,

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Colorado started off the season.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_01]: They're man Oklahoma state taking a whole bunch of drugs.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Colorado started out with North Dakota state.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Why?

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, saying there are eight point favorite, you know, you figure to be a little more than that right Oklahoma state.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, one of the teams that's picked the win in the big 12 is opening up with the back, the back FCS champion,

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: South Dakota state Jack rabbits who was ranked number one in this year's old.

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_01]: How much do you think Oklahoma state is favorite?

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Five and a half nine. Well, I mean five and a half that's crazy bro.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_03]: But like you know, so this is the thing. So, so I think you know, I think those smaller schools think that they have more continuity because their guys don't leave.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I think these are the ticket transfers that you guys went who are from Minnesota, Chicago, you know, and North Dakota, they go to other big schools and they come back.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And then those guys play out three for more years because that's how they get drafted.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_03]: They don't get drafted like tree-lanced normally.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So, I think those those schools will have real leaders and dogs because they don't have guys that been there three for years.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_03]: That place that played the whole time.

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. So, beyond did go out and get some linemen, you know, from all over the place.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, hopefully this works out.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: They're bringing back Shador who is obviously the best quarterback in the big 12.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, unless you go and go home or say it's camera rising, you know, Shador is probably a top like him.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Or number one, probably the best quarterback in college football this upcoming season. He went 27 touchdowns, 300 sections last year.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But he got one problem at this a problem that you always point out.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: This man is Russell Wilson levels of holding on to the football.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, say get rid of that thing and Pittsburgh got just an amro.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_03]: So, I think Justin is bad like that was, I was just wondering about why receiver nowadays.

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Man, just as about to be doing show with us.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so Colorado brought in Pat Schermer and you know, as their office of coordinator, you know,

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_01]: because their previous office of coordinator is now the head coach out at San Diego state.

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he got the motive last year during the season for no reason.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_01]: He got the motive because Shador went throw the ball basically.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He got promoted because Shador got sacked basically.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, you know, Colorado was 130 second and sacks allowed.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_01]: There were 133 FBS teams last season.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got to iron it out. You got to iron that out.

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, hopefully the stuff with the locker room fights isn't true.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care about locker room fights for real.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_01]: What I care about is the accusation that the on ascendant players after other players.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm concerned about. You don't say, like you can't be the leader of telling your line to go beat up another dude.

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm saying that that's weird and I've been seeing a lot of practice highlights from the NFL.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_03]: These joint practices and these fights are breaking out.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And it seems like no one cares that the fights are happening.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And then Ty Rick was quoted last week saying that, you know, fights are good.

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, is the on trying to bring like an NFL kind of vibrato to a college team?

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's exactly what it is.

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_03]: But you have kids, like you have 19 year olds. They don't really.

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_03]: If it's going to resonate the same way because they're not going to send it listen.

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_03]: This is to 14 chemistry. Somebody might just be really ready to just fight and they might take it too far.

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_03]: He might as well do.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, something is like, six, six through your pounds. So like these guys are fighting and they don't have maturity like let me chill.

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a question for you over under Travis Hunter plays nine games this season.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't believe it was entry from I think he was.

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_01]: He was he played he averaged a hundred and six.

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_01]: He's perhaps per game last season.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But yo, if some teams I know what doesn't even get a hundred and six, they snap for game.

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_03]: If he can do it, I think he'll play all 12 and if they get into the playoffs whatever amount of games from that point on.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, that's that's a lot of snaps.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I've been with that first game in, um, I guess, TCU.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was something like a hundred and 18 snaps.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And he was running deep routes in the fourth and I believe I've remember like seeing a field the mom there.

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It was like 90 plus nearly 100 on the field.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with that Texas humidity.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so it's like, yeah, really out here running 160 plays.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But they have a new defense coordinator was as well.

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Robert Livingston coming in from the Cincinnati Bengals.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_01]: There's so they're going to be implementing a four to five defense, you know, sandwich.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I love the play on NCAA 25.

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and you know, but the greatest game that you never been made is because it's.

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So 453 yards per game is what Colorado gave up last year.

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is the thing like nobody's expected a national title from Colorado.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, saying they got a lot of dudes on the outside of Colorado.

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_01]: They got a lot of colorado ain't even expecting it.

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_01]: They got a lot of dudes on these rosters that just don't know how to win.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So first you have to build the culture if you will, which is what I guess Dion is trying to do.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is year two of this process.

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, you know, we're sitting here like, well, is Dion going to be there next year.

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, or how long is Dion going to be there?

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Because Shador is out of there after this season.

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Travis is out of there after the season.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Shilos finally going to be gone.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So, so but looking at the schedule right.

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_01]: They go to Lincoln.

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, finally they go to Lincoln in week two for a rivalry matchup with the corn huskers.

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they beat the corn huskers last year and a game that was close.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So then the score would have you believe.

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was a 36 to 14 game, but Nebraska with five turnovers.

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Then the big one, the big one, they go to Fort Collins because it's personal.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Sam with the Colorado State Rams.

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, they went to overtime with Colorado State last year.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_01]: That was the game Travis got cheap shot it.

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, Tory Hort Tony Horton is back.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Quarterback is back.

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Colorado State ready to bite something off a Colorado.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Sam then you got bail or they should win that game.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_01]: They should they go and have a tough one at Hashtag UC facts.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_01]: They get a home game with Kansas State after a buy week.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So that'll help them having to buy before Kansas State, but I don't think they went that game.

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_01]: They go to Arizona, you know, who they lost two by three last year and Arizona was better last year.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So they might be able to sneak that one.

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_01]: They'll get Cincinnati at Texas Tech.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the toughest place to play in the big 12, but I'm a give it to them.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to lose the Utah.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to lose the Kansas.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to lose the Oklahoma State.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So best case scenario.

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_01]: For me is not in three.

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's everything going right.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Turn over luck.

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, all that kind of stuff that you need being 61 and once score games and all that kind of stuff.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Not a lot of the best case scenario.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Worst case scenario.

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say five and seven.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll say five hundred.

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I'm saying that's the worst case scenario.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_03]: But like what would be like a slip of game UCF where you think they did?

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it depends on what we get out of Dylan Ray Ola.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, up in Nebraska because a lot of people, you know that make these predictions and everything.

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Big on Nebraska this year.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people think that Nebraska's going to, you know, potentially win nine games or so.

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So but it's only is going to be Ray Ola second game.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So you just don't know what you're going to get.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But if he comes out of the first thing,

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, the early here and the where number 15 and it details people think he's Patrick Mahomes.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And then you were able to get there.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_03]: He was able to flip.

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_03]: He was able to flip.

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Matt Rose able to flip him from George and back in Nebraska.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So they didn't you got the Colorado State game at is that four columns this time?

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, going to Texas tech like I said, it's the toughest place to play in the big 12.

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It's sort of like Mississippi state is to the SEC.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The team might not always be good, but it's going to be not come out drag them to get out of there.

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and you could you can potentially lose that game.

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you see F like you brought up, you know,

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Bailer has Dave Orlando on the hot seat and he's taking over the defense this year.

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So are they going to be improved enough to spring something on Colorado?

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So so you know, so you said nine and three's best case scenario.

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_03]: That's five.

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's like I said, I don't want to overachieving, but I think eight and four is there probably their most realistic good season.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Because you're going to have some slip ups because you got to figure out the offensive line and that could take a couple games.

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So you come in and playing against North Dakota state, like I said, a season team of Brazil team championship pedigree.

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to they're going to make some plays.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_03]: That is that's going to bat for you on the offensive line. You still might win because just to that the talent you have, like you'll just be able to just to just outflank them with some speed routes or just a run it back gets in the space and it's a foot race at the end zone.

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Travis, you know, gets in the space a couple of times gets a slap.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I think you're going to get a couple of those plays all just because the depth that you have in the speed that the average career because I'm pretty sure he being a speed player himself is like, listen, I think it's in fast guys on the edge.

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_03]: That way when in doubt, get into this guy any kind of what you can see if he can hit his face.

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_03]: But that means you're going to Nebraska.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_03]: You got a little history and pretty sure him in that role probably going to be best of friends.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's not the utility where and then you know is the target is going to be on like Shador said we're going to be everybody's Super Bowl and people try to poo poo it.

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I get what he means because people feel like they want to shut up the guy with the big mouth and Colorado's a guy with the big mouth.

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's going to be essentially you know, some team Super Bowl was like, you know, Nebraska is you know, let's say like a team like Baylor Baylor might go for an eight.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_03]: But if one of those four wins is a win over Colorado, I think the coach keeps it job just like in those kind of services.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's going to be the those going to be a.

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about the bail and we'll get back to bail.

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, that that whole like if you if you get us if you get as these kind of wins and right now,

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I talk about some winners.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_01]: That's enough.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the thing that's going to be the team's winning this conference.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So you know, as a fan, it's kind of fun, but of course that's going to hurt the conference come play off time.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, because they're battling with the ACC to see who could potentially get the second team and the playoffs.

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But I just don't know if they will because they're just going to beat everybody.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So you know, I could literally see Utah.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Kansas State Oklahoma State Kansas.

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_01]: UCF.

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Arizona.

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And possibly West Virginia.

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously not West Virginia, Iowa State in West Virginia is a dark horse.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I could see all of those teams winning.

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, winning the big 12 because half.

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So eight to the 16 teams.

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the kind of conferences going to be like I think that like I so I think that Utah is the best team in the conference.

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that everybody else to something degree is at the same level like Oklahoma State has a leg up because they're returning a lot of starters.

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But this is what I don't like about Oklahoma State being you always talk about, you know, being patient with the quarterback right.

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But we're talking about a seven-year dude.

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_01]: That had a 17 hundred yard rusher that won the dope Campbell award and the Earl Campbell award.

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And he threw 15 touchdowns with 14 interceptions.

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_01]: How is this man running for 1700 yards?

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And you can't even look, you should have plenty of space.

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You said, you want to talk about shit.

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You said, you're the base over the top if you got a guy's right at the 17.

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing.

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the bottom.

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Imagine having Derek Henry and throwing 15 touchdowns in 14 interceptions.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so play action alone.

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_03]: You should get two touchdowns again.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, at least two, at least two big shots of game off a play action alone.

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why it's hard for me to believe in Oklahoma State.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, but we'll get back to them.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So Utah, you know, two out of the, they just won two out of the last three,

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_01]: and then you know, the back 12 championships coming into the conference.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_01]: They're getting camp rising back from his injury back in 2022 in the rose.

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Six for him.

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're six or no, it's actually year seven for him.

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_01]: He was in that class with Trevor Lonton on them too.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But the COVID.

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, year seven for him too.

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so the problem that Utah may run into, I think they're going to win the conference.

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But the problem that they may run into.

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is going to sound weird when I say it, but just bear with me.

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_01]: There ain't no USC's running around this conference.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And what I mean by that is there ain't no soft ass teams that Utah's going to punch in the mouth,

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_01]: drag up and down the field.

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to play some teams that can bang with them.

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Kansas State for example.

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Iowa State, they don't play Iowa State this year,

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_01]: but Iowa State is basically Utah.

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Iowa State.

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I was state.

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll do day my bad.

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so so you so Iowa State is basically Utah like they just don't have the talent that Utah is bringing in.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Utah is bringing in Dorian Singer from USC.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Why receiver two years ago back at Arizona, he was one of the best wide receivers in the country.

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so what Utah has gone for them is that camp rising gets to settle in because they start with southern

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Utah, bailer in Utah State before they go to still water to play Oklahoma State.

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so what that being said, right?

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_03]: If three their first three games are going to stay to Utah.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, they're going to be planning against one of their former quarterbacks from last year.

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Bryson Barnes, you remember him.

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He was he was the guy that took over.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He's at Utah State this year, so they're going to get to play against him.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Nate Johnson, you know, the other guy that played last year.

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: He's at Vandergilt.

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So, so it's all up to you, Cam rising.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_01]: If you get hurt this year, there ain't no saving Utah.

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But they are bringing a toughness to the big 12 to where, you know, this could be also their last

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Farah is Kyle Widditchham going to retire after this season.

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've already named his successor.

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, is this going to be the last go round for him?

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they had injuries last year, Oklahoma State might meet Utah Q right.

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But who else going to meet Utah in this conference?

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So, so that's the thing is that like you don't have to be undefeated to get to the conference

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Championship game.

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they just got to have the best record.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And like I said, I think these teams are going to any other to where the other team in the conference

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Championship game might have three conference losses.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And just kind of steal a win and knock out your.

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So, very similar to how Utah did against, I guess you were seeing it.

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And the reason is that they'll still get into playoff if they win the conference.

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_01]: No matter what their record is, could you imagine a team being like eight four

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Win the conference championship at nine four and make the play off.

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Nine and four errors on a state in the playoff people would lose their minds.

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Not errors on a South for lose their mind.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Ole Miss doesn't get it at 10 and two.

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And then the four people will write things on the capital again.

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So, so you know, we got last four.

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So, so Utah the question for Utah is, you know, they got to replace both

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Safety's our guys.

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You only bought me.

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_01]: We brought about he's in Detroit.

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and Utah's going to have to find running backs.

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so with conference championship does matter because the highest rate

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_01]: for champions get the top four seats.

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So, conference title does matter.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, but, but you know, it made it mean something because for with with the four

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_03]: With the four spots and five and power five conferences is like, well,

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Essentially every year one of these conferences is going to go

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to miss out even if they all all five went undefeated.

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Like what the five power five conferences and four spots someone's going to get eliminated

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And then we you get like a 12 11 and two Penn State big 10 winner

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_03]: With the, you know, suspended Ohio State then you get the sneak in these other

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_03]: SEC teams.

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to talk about that one get to that CC as far as like who's going to.

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, the big 12 is going to be a situation where they probably

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Going to get one in because like you said, the.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_03]: If you think half the conference can win the conference,

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_03]: then that conference championship game is going to be tough.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It might be one of the most exciting ones that you have.

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the whole thing is going to be exciting, but as college football fans,

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_01]: We like dominance, right?

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, Georgia, Alabama teams that have their foot on their conferences

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And that we're going to call the conference the best even though nobody else can beat them.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, like that's what we do in college football.

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But the big 12 has two new head coaches, you know, over at Houston,

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_01]: who I'm picking the finish in last place,

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_01]: they got Willie Fritz coming in.

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Why you trying to argue, bro?

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I said what I said, the conference the conference the conference.

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_03]: That's why I love them.

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The conference titles are going to determine the top four seeds.

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to be used as high breakers,

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_01]: but the conference champions are going to get in.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you're not going to lead that.

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Power for a conference champion down.

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And the G five champions going to get in.

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So the top five, but she does matter,

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_01]: but what matters is what being a mystical,

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_01]: we're talking to or a mystical and I.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about the other day,

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_01]: is it going to pay to be the third place team because this,

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_01]: because the runner up lost in the conference championship game.

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're going to penalize them for losing late or having a recent loss.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So are you going to weigh the fact that they made the conference championship game,

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_01]: the LeBron rule, you made it.

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's okay to lose or is it going to be the,

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_01]: you're not going to, you know, like we're going to take the third place team,

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_01]: because they have a less loss or whatever it might be.

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But Willie Fritz is taking over at Houston.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_01]: He's coming in from two lane, you know,

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_01]: he beat USC too.

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_01]: We can't let way him to.

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's going to have Houston hum in in a few years,

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_01]: but they don't got the talent right now.

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't hold us and left that thing.

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Bear in the other new head coaches.

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_03]: He's on Texas, Louisiana,

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_03]: like that, that area.

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_03]: He's just can't Houston camp or Crete.

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, because the last coach left there.

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think that Houston just never put they never invested in their football program.

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I think is what the problem is.

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Because basketball got.

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's always, it's always argued like you know,

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_01]: like we talk about Atlanta, right?

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_01]: The Falcons, the Hawks, the Black City,

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_01]: the Meccas, you know, all this kind of stuff.

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they don't get the coverage.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't get the free agents.

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's how I look at Houston.

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you're one of those like meccas cities,

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_01]: like why aren't the players going there?

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And before you could argue, well, they weren't a small conference.

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they were playing against, you know, Tulsa and Memphis.

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like you know what I mean,

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_01]: but now you know, your plan against bigger schools,

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_01]: your plan against Dion, not this year,

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_01]: but you know, but you're going to be playing against Colorado at some point.

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So now, I think Houston needs to make that investment into their football program,

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_01]: which I believe they may be on the road to do,

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_01]: because you don't hire a coach like Willie Fritz

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_01]: if you're not trying to win.

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, but Arizona hired Brett Brennan coming in from San Jose State.

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I know a lot of people are going to look at his record.

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_01]: He's 34 and 48 at San Jose State,

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_01]: but I will have you know, he did win the mountain West at San Jose State in 2021.

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It was their first conference titles since 1992 when they were still not even FCS.

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That wasn't a thing yet. They were division one double A.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But Arizona has who I believe to be the best wide receiver in the country.

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Ted Arrobe McMillen and you know,

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and I got to see him firsthand here down at the Alamo Bull against Oklahoma last year.

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Arizona has talent and I'm impressed that they were able to keep Noah Fatita at quarterback.

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_01]: They were able to keep these players because Jad Fish left to go to Washington and a few left.

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But stars didn't leave. You know, so I like that.

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I think the boost is step then.

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Because right now, if you're if you're viable,

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_03]: a reasonable up her rim,

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_03]: you shouldn't fall apart considering that you can just flat out just by your team.

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_03]: You can just flat out by your players.

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_03]: You can like Colorado State for instance.

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_03]: The quarterback talked about how they passed on 1.2 million dollars and I outdills the transfer to another school.

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So like we got finished. We're going to finish business here.

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_03]: We won when champ is Colorado State.

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's dope.

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_03]: But I bet you lobby and then got 750,000 of the piece from Colorado State.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_03]: You didn't just go back there for free with somebody else to give you

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_03]: then then million dollars for YouTube,

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_03]: your the tandem to go to another school.

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So you've got paid.

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_03]: So you got right now, preseason,

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_03]: ranking I believe who's a,

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Utah's ranked highest.

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a highest.

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_01]: There's the highest followed by Oklahoma State.

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Utah has the most solidified identity.

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_03]: They have their recruiting.

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Probably isn't as big as

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_03]: some of these other major schools like four to Texas Cali schools.

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you got Pennsylvania Highland Michigan's.

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But every good player from that doesn't,

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_03]: that doesn't want to go to California schools.

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Especially you want like a Pacific Islander connection.

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Utah, BYU, those schools are a natural filling.

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_03]: They could fill right in.

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_03]: They'll fill, they'll fill at home even in Utah.

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Even if they've never been to Utah their whole life.

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Kids from Oregon, California who come to Utah.

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_03]: They fill right in Arizona.

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And Arizona, Arizona, Arizona.

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a lot of Pacific Islanders players.

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And the JuCo recruiting and the transfer,

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_03]: the JuCo recruiting Utah has been doing for years at an excellent level.

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they didn't get in the top JuCo players for years.

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So the transfer portal is probably no different.

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. So so Arizona,

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, they also bring back their leading

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Russia and John Colman.

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So Arizona's lot them ready to go.

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just now what the head coaching change is that going to stall them.

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, how similar is their system going to be.

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So what they were running before.

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Noah Fatito was just found.

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they were starting J.D. D. Laura.

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And he got injured last year amongst other problems that he could figure out.

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he was supposed to go to Texas state this all season.

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But some stuff came up.

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so Noah Fatito stepped in.

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he went toe to toe with Caleb Williams.

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_01]: 43 to 41 in double overtime.

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Dummies play call outside of Clemson and overtime against Florida state.

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so it's always hard to tell.

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you got new coaches coming in,

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, but they bring some of their defense back.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They bring back a total of 192 tackles across their secondary.

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So Arizona is locked in ready to go.

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to rank up a little bit lower with the new coach.

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_01]: They also have road trips at Utah.

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and remember last year,

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Bo Nixon those guys went into Utah and broke the 18 game.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Winning string Utah's lost two home games in the last five years.

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So good luck trying to get out of Salt Lake City with a win.

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And Arizona has to make the long trip down to Mickey Mouse to play UCF.

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, so those are the type of things that I wonder if the schedule just breaks a team.

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they might be better than UCF.

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_01]: They more than likely are.

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But for the fact that they have to make that cross-country travel versus the contrast of that.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Just saying, you know, that could be the thing.

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you got Mike Gundio, very local all the state.

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_01]: We brought up they played a jackrabb.

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It's to start out the season.

[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so Oklahoma State.

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like I'm not sold on Alan Bowman.

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about his 15 touchdowns, 14 interceptions and you know,

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Mike Gundio with the joke, you know,

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know, I'll go to God of DUI.

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_01]: His punishment is going to be I'm a big of a carry to ball 50 times against South Dakota State.

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay coach, cool.

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Last year they started two and two.

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_01]: They finished eight and two made the big 12 title game,

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Luz in the Texas.

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they got 10 returning defensive starters.

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Problem with that is they were number 86 in scoring defense.

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully experience shines and they play just a little bit better.

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you get like say 61, you know, maybe 61 and you could win the big 12 title.

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the big 12 is really been known for defense in not, you know, the recent years.

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And that was always the, yeah, we always take them to the mountain and we're Arizona coming in.

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You better figure it out.

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you better figure out when the trenches.

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I think you got my.

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you got my sleeper.

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_01]: The good old Kansas J Hawks.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_01]: The only problem with being a sleeper is they got some bad things that could go really bad for them.

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_01]: They got jailing day.

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It was coming back.

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Not, you know, who remember he was their quarterback when they started to year undefeated.

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, T.C. you went on to play for the national title. They had their big ESPN college game day game where they were both undefeated.

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_01]: He got hurt back injury has been in and out but not really that much. So he's the man this year.

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_01]: They're back up Jason being his gone.

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So if Jalen Daniels could stay healthy, that's the big if if he can.

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Kansas could be planted the big 12 championship game.

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_01]: They're doing some renovations on their stadium. So they play Lentwood and another home game whoever Lentwood is.

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_01]: They play that in a soccer stadium and then the rest of their games this year are going to be at Arrowhead Stadium.

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So you know, maybe they can invoke somebody to chief swag onto themselves.

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they should go to the game.

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Feel the silence.

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they started off 3 in old last year. They got Devon Neal back.

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, who is on his way to become a discolored, leading rusher and history.

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I love this. I got a cheer for Kansas just because of their corner backs.

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Things you got one name Kobe Bryant.

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got one day mellow dots and so you got Kobe and mellow back there.

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Even though I said what I said about Carmelo earlier, you know, saying, I love not fellow Baltimore and I'm just saying.

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, but Kansas last year made back to that bulls for the first time since 2007 and 2008 back when

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Mark Manjino was the head coach. So so Lance Lia pulled has this thing click it.

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just going to be a matter of kindergarten quarterback stay healthy.

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's just sleeper.

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the sleeper if every if he can stay healthy and everything, you know, like I think they got a chance.

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I like to run it back like Devon Neal like a seven plan at same game as well.

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like piecing together a lot of these.

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of our conversations.

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I like hated Jeff's down at UCF.

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I think just right now, when the simulation right, I mean, like, yo, my championship is Boston College against me.

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure it'll still be Alabama Ohio State.

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm just kidding.

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But then also, yeah, I like I like the movement.

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_03]: The thing that I'm liking more now is what the 12 team play off.

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It does give a you're not out of it.

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Feel and October if you have two losses already.

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_00]: We can agree.

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, in previous last like, stress in these last, you know, five to 10 years.

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_03]: It just felt like since they went to the 14 play off that they were just trying to fill NFL stadiums.

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I know I'm probably a British state in this point in the had nausea, but now it feels like a two loss you talk could still when their conference did an opportunity.

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, three loss, you know, Arizona State could beat out a, you know, an undefeated Colorado and the, and the bowl game.

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe Colorado still gets in Arizona State.

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And so it's like, it just feels like there's more opportunity where it's last few years.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Those crazy matchups, you had like Texas playing Oregon week one and Alabama playing Washington week one.

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And he was like, yo, they lose a wrap.

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_03]: You can try to justify what all you want.

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_03]: But you lose that game in August your season, your championship aspirations.

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no.

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_03]: So much, they do so much help.

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Consider that if you're playing a team like that week one, that's probably the toughest game on your schedule.

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Alabama or if you're playing George week one out of conference, that's probably the toughest game on your schedule.

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like those games and I'm not why people play them.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_03]: They say, oh, it doesn't hurt you.

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we saw it killed your season.

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_03]: You're in the hood for now.

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So play that's how you now.

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_03]: So play.

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's going to help because now, guys who wants to transfer, he might play that game in November,

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_03]: because like we still got a shot at the championship.

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I know like, I'm like, like, I'm like, I'm like, what's he playing?

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_03]: He went, you lose with a case maybe.

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_03]: But a lot of guys, especially in college level and amateur level, they will stay for championships.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_03]: They'll play for championship where is.

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Guys who knew they're going to be first from a picks, then playing the bowl games is like, it's not for a championship.

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So they make it very clear like this is what I'm playing.

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So I like that, I like those that opportunity for them.

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So keeping it into some flower state.

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Kansas State.

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, as a contender, they know they won the big 12, two years ago.

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Beat them up on TCU before the playoffs.

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_01]: They have the best in my opinion, they have the best coach in the big 12 Chris Climand.

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, how you get players, the man hat in Kansas, I will never know.

[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And I believe he's probably a top 10 coach in the country.

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You'll never know that because he coaches at Kansas State.

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, but the problem with Kansas State is as we talk about comparisons.

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_01]: They're the big 12 version of Texas A&M.

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_01]: When you don't have expectations, they will bite you.

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Johnny Manzel going into Alabama and winning.

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Then when you say, oh, we got Jim Boe Fisher, we go win the thing.

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, saying you out here losing the Mississippi State.

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That's Kansas State.

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: They can turn around.

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They can beat Utah.

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they can turn around and lose the West Virginia.

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's just the type of school that they are.

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But they got, you know, DJ Getons coming back.

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_01]: 1200 brushing yards.

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_01]: 10 touchdowns.

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I knew that already.

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Resident say, you know, but,

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: but,

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: but you know what though?

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: This is this is when you know you have a spoil of riches.

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So every Johnson has taken over at quarterback for Kansas State this year.

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Their former quarterback Will Howard was just named the starter at Ohio State today.

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's crazy when you upgraded over to do that with Ohio State.

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's nuts.

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's reported if you're, if you're willing to really lock in and buy into the perks of the transfer port as a coach,

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_03]: it could work dividends.

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: If you're just used to guys who's coming to you,

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_03]: then then you're not going to stay around alone.

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_03]: But if you're going to adapt to the transfer portal and understand like,

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_03]: listen, I got a guy for a year.

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Me and get to.

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_03]: But if that's the case, I'm looking at this guy who's the juckel,

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_03]: National champion.

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I might have bring him in.

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But Kansas State is also bringing in Dylan Edwards.

[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you remember that name from Colorado last year,

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: he was supposed to be the big running back that was coming in the same them last year.

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's at Kansas State now as well.

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_01]: They went and got Dante Cephas from Penn State, you know,

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: we'll see he didn't necessarily live up to the potential at receiver out in Happy Valley.

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, we'll see what he can do here.

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Ben Senate.

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_03]: It was just through the ball well.

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: They usually don't, you know, like they're,

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: they were one of the old school option teams.

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, one of those old school Nebraska back in the 90 teams.

[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they were that.

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So so all of this like four past stuff is just new to the state of Karen's.

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, but they could have the best defensive and the big 12.

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_01]: They usually have a great secondary.

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_01]: The problem that I have with them is that they lost their office coordinator for

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Recorder back Colin Klein.

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's over down here down at a college station down in the long star state for those of you,

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, following the big names.

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's down here.

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so beware, they played too late this year.

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: They lost the two years ago.

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So Kansas State, when I'm looking at their schedule,

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_01]: it leaves a lot of questions because like I said,

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_01]: they're the type of team that can meet anybody.

[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_01]: They're the type of team that can lose to anybody.

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So when you look at their schedule,

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_01]: sorry, parsed for for breath right there.

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So they start with you team Martin before they go down to two lane and get Arizona early.

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they go to be why you who I think is firing near Coach, I think into the season.

[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Then they get Oklahoma State at Colorado in at West Virginia.

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: This is their season this four week stretch starting on September 28th.

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Hosting Oklahoma State by week at Colorado at West Virginia and then hosting Kansas.

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So you know, if they can get out of that three in one, they're in good shape.

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if not then, you know, we're going to be talking about how Colorado going into Oregon town,

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, could be, you know, this is your job.

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, yes, it was lost.

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I was state who has coach Matt Campbell, who I'm surprised has not left for a bigger job.

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm sorry.

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't say the Palm Middle State, you know, saying like Palm Middle State and the ACC against the Sunshine State.

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we know, Iowa State, you know, Matt Campbell, one in five against Iowa.

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they also have Rocco Beck who is deleting pass or returning to the Big 12 this year.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: He was the, the big 12 freshman of the year.

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I ain't go call up a rookie.

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they have Abu Sama back the running back.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Jaded Higgins back at receiver.

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is the first time in a long time where I'm looking at Iowa State and I know they have Brock Perdi.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm looking at Iowa State and saying,

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: could your offense be a strength for the first time since what cynical Wallace.

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for a while.

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that means a half times you keep track at home.

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Hawkeye State, they might have the best second there.

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_03]: So they're part of the 18s that you think could win this conference.

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, like I said earlier, they're Utah, like they're built just like Utah when it comes to like the physical pound in you.

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they looked like Utah.

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They just don't have the players that Utah has.

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_03]: So of the eight.

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So as yeah, all the research, all the research you done so far and this information you have floating around you.

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think this is going to be the most exciting conference or is that whole concept of them eat each other pause like going to kind of distract from the excitement?

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be exciting and they're going to be very fun games to watch.

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that a lot of the media and fans are going to reject it because there's no dominant, but unless you talk, unless you talk from the way with it, there's not a dominant team.

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And like I said earlier, like with college football, like college football is the one sport that we don't like said the relevant right like March man this is built on the back of said the relevant.

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_03]: So the first two rounds you for the first two rounds and I've got to make our you know, bracket to kind of get lead and then like all right not give me Kansas versus UNC.

[01:07:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not felt people were cheering for the 97 giants, you know the 97 Packers, you know, they were cheering for these teams to make history or to go win the Super Bowl.

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and the NBA, you know, they cheer for whoever's playing the Lakers I guess or you know, they cheer for you know, you want to see.

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: They see me the one seed. Yeah, you want to see that in the NBA college football.

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: None of that they like give me my Bama give me my Georgia Ohio State and get the fuck out the way.

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, saying this on college football operates. So Iowa State is the type of team that can cause problems for somebody's bigger teams that I named.

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't even but you'll never hear anything about them outside the fact that they constantly lose to Iowa.

[01:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: They go to Utah, they go to Morgan Town to play West Virginia, you know, saying they get case state and UCF at home.

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So you know, I just think that at this point, you know Iowa State is a team that is dangerous.

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So so they're similar to Kansas State in the fact that they can beat anybody but lose to anybody.

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so we'll just have to see how that goes.

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_03]: We've got to be situation where Utah is a team that has played in the bigger games and I know, packed 12 probably technically doesn't feel like it's bigger than the big 12, but as far as like the limelight of the pack.

[01:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Utah and Oklahoma State and in the course Colorado is the team that even though they haven't won their play in pressure.

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they've and so could it be a situation where just that you have said like 61 and one possession games.

[01:08:59] [SPEAKER_03]: The teams that are kind of built for these moments for either other conferences or just in big robberies.

[01:09:06] [SPEAKER_03]: They just kind of rise at the top or do you still think like hey, I still got 18.

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think they're just going to be luck together like like like so the way so the way that like.

[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I think about it is Utah could possibly go undefeated.

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_03]: But they lose can browsing for one or two games.

[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, and obviously that's also window. Yeah, but Utah's best case scenario is 12 and no.

[01:09:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Kansas State's best scenario is 12 and no.

[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that Oklahoma State's best scenario is 11 and one so like these things could happen, but just the nature of the conference says no and you know to answer your question resident say no they did not.

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: The packed what we still got the two pop going on with Washington state in Oregon state.

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_01]: There's rumors that they're going to potentially link up with the Mount West, they have a scheduling agreement right now their basketball teams are going to go play in the west coast conference with Gonzaga and Santa Clara but the end game could be.

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: They just hang out see what the ACC does and try to get Calvin Stanford back.

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so they should just try to get back to the packed 10 like you can we get eight more teams sneak a couple of Mount West teams get San Diego State and Santa Jose state call it.

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Just get all your California teams like listen have a meeting like listen Fresno State come on everybody come on we are like just we are the Pacific button goes right just come home.

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Right and that's the problem.

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: They'll get to deal though what the problem is there aren't many.

[01:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: There aren't many big teams west of the Mississippi in general you know to me and now that you got Utah Arizona Arizona State and Colorado joining the big 12.

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so there's it's like they're in out there you know to me so it's just like a couple of games in the eastern time zone but not meeting.

[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you see what you got you got West Virginia the ready for this one resident say represent the mountain state.

[01:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You know so so the West is about the new years yeah you know over in Morgan town you know this is one of those.

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Teams that combine anybody because more in town is one of those tough places to play they out there burning couches.

[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they had the fans will fight you they will spit on you so we're going to.

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to find out about them real real early because they start off week one against the didn't need lines.

[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You know and this is the first time this is going to be major this is the first time they got Penn State coming into Morgan town since 1992.

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Because of the in his fence this is a fierce fierce robbery even though Penn State leads the all-time series 49 to 9 but they hate each other.

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You know to me and just like Maryland you know West Virginia is Penn State's Wuppin boy, but they have a beaten Penn State since 1988 so this is going to be big and major so Penn State.

[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So we really rock marked it as a loss and walk while I'm putting Penn State no right now that they're on up.

[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You know said I let them know right now so so Garrett green at quarterback you know he's he's quick he improvises.

[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He keeps plays a lot plays alive but he's one of the rare quarterbacks that can keep the play alive without turning the ball over.

[01:12:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what he has going for him they got CJ.

[01:12:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they got CJ Donald sitting in the back field you know last year was supposed to be Neil Brown out of there you're on the hot seat you out of here they went not in four you know but remember the other day we were talking about Virginia Tech you had this good record for who did you beat.

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So when I go look back at who West Virginia beat who they beat last year that's the problem that I run into is trying to find something impressive and not only do they get Penn State they get pit.

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: They go to pit even though Heinzfield is not the biggest home field advantage the backyard brawl so you're going to rivalry rivalry basically so is that going to take a toll on you mentally and physically.

[01:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You know to where you shoot your load early if you will as far as energy and effort and it takes a lot out of you coming down you know the later games in the season you see.

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they can have one of them probably have a toughest road because I'm looking at.

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Penn State then they got Albany which should be when.

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, at hit.

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, probably a loss.

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Kansas at Oklahoma State.

[01:14:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Hosting Iowa State and like their stretch doesn't get easy until you get Cincinnati Baylor right.

[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But by the way, you would.

[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and but by then you're already you know you're two and four lost six three three and five.

[01:14:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you very well could be.

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you need to read five at that point or even two and six.

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I'm saying. That's the variance in this conference just like TCU right you know like the they were in the they were running up for the national title but there was no max do get no can't drink Miller.

[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_01]: No quit in Johnston coming through that door.

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You know Garrett rightly went off to the Palm metal state.

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, then down in Clims and to be there off is a coordinator.

[01:14:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So so you know, so like TCU lost a lot name with five and seven had some close games last year still beat SMU who everybody thinks is going to be the wild card and the ACC.

[01:14:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So TCU can be a factor.

[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Arizona State is going to be better this year.

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is year two of Kenny Dillingham taking over they did lose Jayden Rashada, you know like if talk about drama right like.

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He's supposed to get all this money from Florida they couldn't pay him. He was going to go to Miami he didn't go to Miami he ends up at Arizona State.

[01:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he plays a lot last year and then he goes to Georgia to back up Carson went and meet a third strain basically.

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I mean Carson back.

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I might as well.

[01:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah same.

[01:15:33] [SPEAKER_01]: What I'm seeing is that this has back to school.

[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they got Jeff Sims coming in from the brass the aka the turnover machine. He's battling with Sam Levitt for the starting job.

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: They went oh and three in one score of games and they played before obviously mission and meet Washington but in the regular season they played Washington better than anybody not from the state of Oregon.

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they had the fence of lime and that had to play offensive lime.

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Do the injury. You know, they went three and nine. They played Colorado to you know a three point game that was the game where Shador was in front of the crowd flashing his watch.

[01:16:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, everybody said why you pumped up for being a three-way team and all that kind of stuff.

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think Arizona State's going to be better. They got a tough out of comfort schedule though because don't let it fool you.

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You think of lying acts tests as Texas tech and Texas about why you're not.

[01:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're doing yeah asking them about them.

[01:16:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they played Mississippi State from the SEC and then they come down here to Sam Markos to play the Texas state Bob Cats will list the logical will tell you are monsters or NCAA 25.

[01:16:42] [SPEAKER_03]: They legit, they legit like I played one of the few songs, they legit little squad but yeah why don't me suggest because if you think about like we talked about these colleges will change to be in a middle nowhere.

[01:16:53] [SPEAKER_03]: The University of Wyoming. Why on the end is stuff is already the middle nowhere.

[01:17:00] [SPEAKER_03]: The campus is in the middle of the middle of nowhere. So if you're going there to play football, that's all you went there for it.

[01:17:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. That's what Josh asked me to say.

[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: This called War Memorial Stadium.

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just it's literally just in the like the side of a hill and the middle nowhere and the wind just flips across.

[01:17:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's always a tough place because like listen, all you got is football. If you're out there, you have football school and wherever you sleep.

[01:17:26] [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. I think it was a Walmart like right here and it was all campus because it's kind of hanging out around Walmart. There's nothing out there and shy and so.

[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, there's no one to be in the Grand Canyon State. You know, but Arizona states you know secondary as well, you know, shamari sevens and zamian Alfred.

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're going to be making it tough on opposing offense. So I don't expect Arizona State to be a factor in the conference race, but I could see six and six potentially on the horizon.

[01:18:00] [SPEAKER_01]: BYU brought up BYU, Kalining Sotaki. I think this is probably his last go round and provoked. You know the B. I've stayed if you will.

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Frank, you talk, you know, so last year was their first non bowl season.

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Six, seven, eight. I am not making up state nicknames. That's a real thing is really called the B has state street sign state true for vehicles all that have B has on them.

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So they lost seven. They lost seven conference games last year by an average of 21.

[01:18:37] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they gave up.

[01:18:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't go nine and three this year. You can wrap it up. Yeah, they gave up over 200 yards rushing per game last year. You know, they did beat Cincinnati in Texas tech last year.

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's the coachy. That's because they BYU gets talent BYU has adults like a lot of guys do missions at 19. Why you got husbands is like you got fathers.

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_03]: But good. I just want you to go like grown men on your offensive lines that 19 a lot of them do their mission to go for two years and they come back.

[01:19:15] [SPEAKER_03]: They're just older and they stay long like they don't leave early to go to like to pro leave and think like that. They rarely transfer out because no their face is what got them to BYU.

[01:19:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So to have that kind of a roster and to perform that poorly and in the physical part of the business of physical and an attack and a willingness to come down hill. You have grown men on that side of the ball.

[01:19:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I think the Jacksonville Jaguars and the BYU coogers like very close to me. Like I think the packers and the BYU coogers are like pretty close to the age of a star and lot of.

[01:19:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so you're out there just get you as kick by teenagers.

[01:19:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, they're replacing quarterbacks. You know, they brought in key to slow this from USC a few years ago.

[01:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Big disappointment wish you could get a refund you can't you know, so looking at their schedule. They got it now they got a master schedule. You know, in my eyes like the names might not sound bad but it's just a lot. You know, they opened up with the salookies.

[01:20:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I said the salookies of Southern Illinois, straight from Carbondale, Illinois then they go to SMU down here in Dallas.

[01:20:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Go to Wyoming play Kansas State. So that's a tough three week stretch right there. They come back down here for bailer Arizona at all with Columbus State to follow.

[01:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: They go cross country to UCF get there by week and then go up the road to Salt Lake City. So like I just can't see it, you know, and me why you get five wins this year.

[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be very surprised and maybe I'll give Colony Sataki another year, but you know, the way that's looking at this way just get those kind of laid out. It looks like they could be two and two at the four games.

[01:21:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Bailers in Texas, I could be toss up Arizona. We talked about how they've gotten better. Oklahoma State's definitely the edge on them UCF is.

[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it could be a it could be a situation where they might come out his first four weeks three and one.

[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then lose five to the next six.

[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then and then especially that last one to Utah and that's the game you lose on like the end of your stretch.

[01:21:33] [SPEAKER_03]: That you go ahead and pack his bags.

[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And then we'll run through these last few real quick, you know UCF, like I mentioned there wanted to say is that I think come witness conference they're bringing in KJ Jefferson from Arkansas who people are comparing the Cam Newton for some reason.

[01:21:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I understand why if you're just looking at a picture of them, but he don't look like Cam Newton on the football field. You know, but yeah, and it was a one man wrecking show is a one of one.

[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, but KJ Jefferson coming in from Arkansas experience with 39 starts he's going to be replacing John Reese plumbly. You know they got RJ Harvey back 1416 yards.

[01:22:15] [SPEAKER_01]: He, you know, he's the third all time leading. Rushering UCF history, you know they're bringing in a pity bone. You know, so they're they're going to be running the football.

[01:22:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Javocca is a new England now, but Kobe Hudson is there ready to step in. So they got new Hampshire and Sam Houston state to start out. They should be fine. They got a trip to the swamp.

[01:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so that could be UCF Super Bowl, but even if they win that game, do they spend it all trying to get that win against the gators or do they spend it all trying to get the one against Colorado before the gators.

[01:22:52] [SPEAKER_01]: See there you go. You don't even so you know, pity bone like I mentioned, 1400 yards another 1400 yard.

[01:22:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Rush her at Toledo, you know, 2000 career yards he played at the University of Maryland as well. The old line state he played in the old line state.

[01:23:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, to be so UCF the question for them is going to be defense. Can they stop anybody? They're going to have to win every game 41 to 35.

[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And while they are capable of scoring 41, they're also capable of giving up 42.

[01:23:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not seeing the benefit to all of this all this movement between making these super conferences because yes, 16 team and his conference right.

[01:23:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's no slouches. So you need four you need four layups. We got we're about to talk about one.

[01:23:47] [SPEAKER_01]: From the book I state, I present to you this incident at Eberre Cats. You know who of course, you know made the play also a few years ago only G-Faatine to make the playoffs before we hit this 12 team this 12 team play off era.

[01:24:01] [SPEAKER_01]: They did rank number five in rushing last year, but the problem is they had to do they didn't have a rejoins at quarterback.

[01:24:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So you know like just, you know, that's how I feel about that not because he went to Florida at one point. He's just that bad.

[01:24:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so they're waiting for somebody to take the mantle this year. I'm not sold on their head coach.

[01:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Sadder field coming in Scott, Sadder field coming in from Louisville. I'm just not sold. I see no talent on this roster.

[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: They won one game in the big 12 last year, which was against Houston. So there's your layup Houston's a layup they're going to finish the last like I said, you know, they got Willie Fritz coming in 54 47 at to lane 23 and for the last two years.

[01:24:47] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, to lane you don't think that transfer is over. You don't think that kind of a 1% of the percentage coming in.

[01:24:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Not we don't have talent.

[01:24:56] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a little bigger. Maybe maybe it's not that they have talent these to just not, you know, household name talent.

[01:25:05] [SPEAKER_03]: They're not barking. You name talent.

[01:25:06] [SPEAKER_03]: If you think about the reason that you're getting your players from if you're at Houston, you're probably recruiting Texas while you're probably recruiting Louisiana Arkansas pretty well.

[01:25:16] [SPEAKER_03]: What a guy's daughter.

[01:25:18] [SPEAKER_01]: This regionally they got done of his Smith coming back at quarterback he's coming off a labor of surgery.

[01:25:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so we'll see if he even starts, you know, he takes a tech originally they ranked 100 or lower and just about any defensive stat you could think of.

[01:25:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, to be so that's what I'm saying like it's an overhaul. It's not as like it's not as simple as less install this it's a better resource system and certain minds right is like he's got to get players in there.

[01:25:47] [SPEAKER_03]: We don't walls built and you guys will have to work.

[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then going across to Waco the bailer bears you know, I got to finish in third to last. So I got Houston last Cincinnati just ahead and then bailer just ahead of them.

[01:26:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So they've around to the hit coach you remember him as the defensive coordinator when LSU won their national title with Joe Burrow.

[01:26:11] [SPEAKER_01]: He took over at bailer won a big 12 title win 12 into outside of that year when they went 12 and two and won the big 12. He's 11 and 23.

[01:26:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So he took it upon himself desperate times come from that call for desperate measures now he's going to be calling the defense this year.

[01:26:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And we always talk about it. I don't like my coach calling the offense.

[01:26:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I need to head coach focus and I need people who can talk directly to the players in between series calling the plays because you can't stop.

[01:26:43] [SPEAKER_03]: If you're calling defense, I know Bill Belicech with doing everyone's so well like he would go over but he had Tom Brady throwing a ball around.

[01:26:50] [SPEAKER_03]: You could do that. We have talked to your talent other than that. I need the head coach focused on everything that's going on in the game and let the coordinators and position coaches handle that piece.

[01:27:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, and so they go to Utah so already in trouble but luckily for them it doesn't count in the conference standards.

[01:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And I've been to mention that earlier Kansas State and Arizona doesn't count in the conference standards because things were out of conference games that they had scheduled already.

[01:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So no matter the result it has no impact on the conference title race but bailer went out in the side of do something dumb.

[01:27:27] [SPEAKER_01]: They decided to go after they decided to go add off we go into the wild blue yonder into their out of conference schedule.

[01:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So you know so I'm already letting you know now I'm picking air force to beat them. You know so they bring back they do bring back their top five.

[01:27:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Why receivers. They're replacing the quarterback their quarterback and start Bill playing from Mississippi State now they're bringing in Dequan Finn from Toledo.

[01:27:55] [SPEAKER_01]: He was the back player of the year so talent, but you just don't know about that leap like we had those same questions about Shador plan at a lower level.

[01:28:04] [SPEAKER_01]: How are you going to look plan against the better competition? So that's the question for them is you know how how is he going to look taking this step in competition.

[01:28:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So you know so they're not in 16 the last two years they allow 33.9 points for game last year which was the worst in the conference, which is why Dave or Rada is you know taking it away.

[01:28:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I would be surprised if he's fired midway through the season.

[01:28:33] [SPEAKER_01]: He is a good coach. I think he is a good coach, but the right is on the wall you know sometimes you just got to know what the whole of the full.

[01:28:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I played at one of them the championship that. Oh yeah it's a whole mistake.

[01:28:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it's not but the goal on yet I was there some purpose. Yeah I was going to think he probably rets his hat on that and then they just kind of want to show you giving up then they're 34 like five touchdowns a game.

[01:29:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Every game as an average I mean you give up some 40 point bangers out there too so.

[01:29:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. That's tough that stuff it but yeah, but even with that that's 416.

[01:29:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:29:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not seeing the person. I'll see the population. Yeah.

[01:29:18] [SPEAKER_03]: It just seems like you're putting your trading is like your gambling because you're getting more money because it's even though it's not like that.

[01:29:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And I guess with the 12 we got to see how the 12 team has committee and January lays it out for us as far as who makes it 12.

[01:29:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Because we we all had an idea.

[01:29:43] [SPEAKER_03]: The first year and then when Alabama didn't play for the conference title and they still got in.

[01:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's why I asked you to stuff that I asked you the other night because if I'm a sermon I'm just you know I'm going to be generous I guess you know 4 SEC at least 3 big 10 you know you got to G5 that's 8.

[01:30:03] [SPEAKER_01]: If no-to-date gets in that's 9. So either the big 10 gets a 4th team in the ACC and the big 12 only get 1 or one of those 2 conferences as ACC or big 12 gets to any other gets 1.

[01:30:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So I need to get to the big 12 getting 1.

[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying.

[01:30:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm lying with your whole like anybody can win the conference.

[01:30:28] [SPEAKER_03]: You know like this this this tornado of wins and losses and then like whoever rises out of that is going to be the sole representative.

[01:30:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, and we had 3 that was the number we came up with but.

[01:30:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it could be for her because I mean just all the top of my head we're not getting a big 10 like.

[01:30:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not Ohio State.

[01:30:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You know you got Oregon.

[01:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You know one of at least Penn State or Michigan, you know Wisconsin could jump up there.

[01:31:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody says love with Nebraska.

[01:31:02] [SPEAKER_01]: People know Iowa is always going to be a lot of Iowa.

[01:31:06] [SPEAKER_03]: They always seem to be in second they always seem to be right there towards the end.

[01:31:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Great.

[01:31:12] [SPEAKER_01]: But the bad news for Iowa though the bad news for Iowa is that divisions went away.

[01:31:18] [SPEAKER_03]: So you know so before they only like a two lost team and you know what.

[01:31:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But it would be in the West and play against Minnesota Northwestern Purdue so on so forth.

[01:31:29] [SPEAKER_01]: They had the easy division but then they got smacked.

[01:31:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You know whenever they showed up at Lucas oil for the championship game.

[01:31:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's the thing.

[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But now without the divisions, I don't know if then we go and see Iowa up there but you know the Penn State you know is bring the Messiah of relief.

[01:31:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, but they'll make a play Ohio State and Michigan every year.

[01:31:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And now they can sneak in and I have the thing.

[01:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but to put a bow on this to finish it off, we're going to talk about year three of Joey McBlier down in Lubbock.

[01:32:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Lubbock Texas Texas tech.

[01:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a top 25 recruiting class coming in.

[01:32:06] [SPEAKER_01]: He's been killing the recruiting game for my high school coach.

[01:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: He coached on bill or staff before he came to Texas Tech.

[01:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they had Oregon on the ropes last year going back to me talking about how it's a tough place to play over in Lubbock.

[01:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: They got four new offensive line starter so you just never know how that's going to go.

[01:32:24] [SPEAKER_01]: The quarterback, Darren Morgan is back.

[01:32:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Todd's Brooks the bell cow was back.

[01:32:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's probably to only run it back into conference outside of Ollie Gordon that's going to be your every down back.

[01:32:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's good.

[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Correct it.

[01:32:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So do that.

[01:32:40] [SPEAKER_01]: They were the trendy conference pick last year.

[01:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people picked Texas Tech to go to the big 12 title game last year.

[01:32:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't come to fruition.

[01:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not coming to fruition this year.

[01:32:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But they, but they are on that West Virginia level of you go to their place.

[01:32:59] [SPEAKER_01]: They can beat you like you remember back in the day the Seattle Seahawks right you didn't want to go up there to 12 man,

[01:33:07] [SPEAKER_01]: but you want to Seattle to come to you.

[01:33:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That's Texas Tech.

[01:33:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'm not sure.

[01:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, says so you know, but that's the big 12.

[01:33:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, today is Thursday. So you know what that means?

[01:33:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a weekend coming up and joyous selves.

[01:33:23] [SPEAKER_01]: We will be back on Monday with the big 10.

[01:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So we creeping creeping up to the SEC.

[01:33:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're going to go big 10 all Monday.

[01:33:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, hope you have a good weekend.

[01:33:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Watch some preseason football, Drake May.

[01:33:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, saying even comes had to admit he liked.

[01:33:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He, ready?

[01:33:43] [SPEAKER_01]: He liked where Drake may placed the balls.

[01:33:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, Drake may have a ship room.

[01:33:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, got his little Russian touchdown tonight.

[01:33:53] [SPEAKER_03]: He looked more poignant since Kobe were said he did.

[01:33:56] [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't get it or seemingly this year.

[01:33:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a bit of a new England with seven games.

[01:34:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I might say, mayors the coach of the year.

[01:34:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:34:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That's seven and 10.

[01:34:08] [SPEAKER_01]: They used to coach in a year.

[01:34:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That's how bad they are.

[01:34:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So you know, but it just don't.

[01:34:14] [SPEAKER_03]: The way you guys enjoy this weekend, just skip over all college football and now it's

[01:34:18] [SPEAKER_03]: his TV shows and just wait for Mike to give you the breakdown on Monday.

[01:34:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the way.

[01:34:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the time to talk to anybody else.

[01:34:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't listen to fine bomb.

[01:34:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't listen to ESPN.

[01:34:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't any of those channels?

[01:34:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I know they got these big TV deals just save you time.

[01:34:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Wait for Mike.

[01:34:36] [SPEAKER_03]: 915 Eastern, 815 Central Mountain West time.

[01:34:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the deal live from the long star state.

[01:34:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You're ready to wait.

[01:34:44] [SPEAKER_03]: It's wait for Mike to give you the breakdown.

[01:34:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You ready?

[01:34:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You ready?

[01:34:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You ready?

[01:34:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You ready?

[01:34:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Resulting today from the Lowell Star State with my guy across the screen and the garden

[01:34:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Staying state.

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