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[00:03:58] Back to back at that back the bat they go ask if I could play it back
[00:04:02] Yo, I learned a game from William Wesley. You could never check me. You know saying this is the WNBA's job
[00:04:09] To promote her now
[00:04:12] ESPN and the like have obviously been promoting Caitlin
[00:04:17] So, you know you can say
[00:04:20] Well, how come they aren't but but we did see Sabrina
[00:04:24] And those who at the all-star game this year shooting against Steph
[00:04:29] So even though she didn't have 24-hour
[00:04:32] coverage around the clock
[00:04:34] She was introduced into some spaces that she wasn't in
[00:04:39] Previously, I bet on her to win
[00:04:42] Yeah, cuz you crazy and then you
[00:04:47] Yeah, well yeah go ask Kenny Smith why
[00:04:54] Kevin Hart was beat Draymond in the three-point shooting contest. I could be a bar in a three-point contest, but anyway
[00:05:01] anyway, the point being is that
[00:05:04] don't get mad at Caitlin and
[00:05:07] I understand the history of America and I understand why it pulls that people's heartstrings
[00:05:14] You know, we're in an era of social media tick-tock all this stuff like that
[00:05:19] MrLogical was telling me about the Cavender twins, you know two years ago
[00:05:23] You know, um, you know, so obviously they found a way to promote themselves Olivia done so on so forth
[00:05:31] So and I know them that's a younger generation
[00:05:35] That you know is more social media savvy and want to do all that shit
[00:05:40] And I'm an overhead not even like social media, you know said but
[00:05:45] You know if the WNBA isn't promoting
[00:05:49] certain players
[00:05:51] One they could promote themselves and if two if it matters so much to you, why don't you promote them?
[00:05:57] How about you share them? How about you start a thread instead of sharing whatever song Drake just put out instead of sharing Glorilla
[00:06:05] Getting arrested for a DUI
[00:06:07] How about you post Asia Wilson all over Twitter?
[00:06:11] Post her offseason workouts pulls her on vacation with Kelsey Plum who they're on the same team and one of the most
[00:06:18] popular cities on earth
[00:06:20] Yeah, the same one of the most
[00:06:23] One of the most promotion based cities in the world
[00:06:26] You're not gonna find another city on earth when maybe you could if you dug deep enough that promotes
[00:06:34] Anything more than Las Vegas? Yeah same city
[00:06:38] That has all these boxing matches
[00:06:41] You know UFC's, you know
[00:06:44] Like so on so forth about to have an NBA team in a few years
[00:06:47] That LeBron James of all people employed Mayweather have gone on record to say that they want to be the owner of
[00:06:54] They just got a 1.5 billion dollar football seed and we get the Raiders and the Raiders been awful
[00:07:00] They're bringing the A's and they're tearing down the hotels to make so it can be done. It's just a matter of like
[00:07:06] Do y'all wanna know what Jamel Hill? I got a challenge for you
[00:07:11] Instead of criticizing Caitlin
[00:07:14] How about you call Asia Wilson with your platform get her on something of yours a show whatever it might be
[00:07:24] You start the Asia Wilson bandwagon
[00:07:28] Versus trying to yell from an echo chamber
[00:07:32] Trying to yell from an echo chamber
[00:07:37] To five it's not nailing ahead again, I mean like it makes sense like it's just I think a lot of times
[00:07:44] We're in this position where I
[00:07:47] Don't want to call it like you say group think
[00:07:51] There is a way for you to intrinsically
[00:07:56] Bolster your
[00:07:57] Standing wherever you are like you can make things happen for yourself if you look at some of these youtubers a lot of those guys
[00:08:04] Came from the bottom they came from their you know basements and bedrooms, but it took a lot of work
[00:08:09] Now a guy like mr. B started in his bedroom now. He's doing
[00:08:15] Eight million dollar videos on a regular basis to the point where he can scrap videos that he spent four or five million
[00:08:21] I was one because he's that successful. Yeah, my eight-year-old
[00:08:24] Him being buried alive the other day
[00:08:27] Yeah, so he just does you know, he's made it he's ascended to the point where he can now promote anything
[00:08:32] You have to just kind of hit your wagon to people who have that kind of ability be in a sports organization
[00:08:40] You would think it would be easier for them to do that. I guess we talked in our pre-meeting
[00:08:46] ESPN you might have to go to ESPN and this is an analogy that I use if you bought a treadmill from a friend
[00:08:53] I'm ESPN
[00:08:54] Spent 100 bucks on it. I put it in my garage. I
[00:08:58] Might use it and if I don't use it a lot
[00:09:01] I can say we'll only put a hundred bucks into this treadmill. It still works whenever I want to use it is useful
[00:09:08] But if you're at least in the peloton for 89.99 a month
[00:09:13] You more you're probably more apt to use it because you're spending
[00:09:17] They may $100 a month on the peloton so you're more likely to use it be physical or if case would be if
[00:09:24] ESPN says you know what we're gonna put a
[00:09:27] Billion dollar contract. We're gonna have a billion dollar contract with WNBA. I'm gonna give you your own channel
[00:09:33] That way when first take is on your regular flagship ESPN channel, you're going to promote
[00:09:40] mercury versus
[00:09:43] Liberty
[00:09:44] Tuesday you're gonna promote
[00:09:46] Aces versus Chicago sky on Thursday
[00:09:50] You might promote it on your ABC affiliate channels like the TV shows like I know modern families down to ABC anymore
[00:09:56] But like when they scroll at the bottom, you'll you'll have that little same scroll
[00:10:00] You'll put more effort into it because you put that money into
[00:10:04] The contract but if no one's forcing a hand to do that then it's incumbent upon you as an organization
[00:10:12] To do that promotion the headquarters are in New York
[00:10:20] Is every fever sky game better be on TV
[00:10:24] Easily accessible not on ticket not on game pass or any of that stuff favor sky fever Liberty fever
[00:10:32] aces
[00:10:33] fever
[00:10:34] versus the Lithuanian women's team
[00:10:38] Put it on TV
[00:10:39] Sell it sell it sell it you have too many options for it not to be successful
[00:10:44] But we'll see how it goes that they have they have the fire right now
[00:10:50] Now you're gonna stoke those flames or
[00:10:53] Are you gonna go back to well, how can y'all didn't do this two years ago? Cool three years goes a long time ago
[00:11:00] What are you gonna do summer 2024 when this NBA season ends?
[00:11:06] Mm-hmm. Now it's your show for the summer cuz all you got all you really have to compete with is baseball
[00:11:12] talking about football
[00:11:15] actual baseball
[00:11:16] Mm-hmm June
[00:11:18] to August it's
[00:11:21] Women's basketball
[00:11:25] Baseball talking about football right into the Olympics
[00:11:31] You have a hot window to where
[00:11:34] Sports is gonna people aren't talking about it
[00:11:36] These young quarterbacks coming out people gonna really be tuned into sports. Are you gonna are you gonna pull some of that attention away?
[00:11:43] What are you gonna do?
[00:11:45] Speaking of attention
[00:11:47] Please somebody get off my chest
[00:11:51] In this digital world we live in me and Mike could tell you I'm about to be 43 Mike's on the same bridge
[00:11:59] In
[00:12:00] 1996 at 1415
[00:12:04] You could probably get away with some stuff
[00:12:07] You could probably shoplift
[00:12:10] You could probably
[00:12:11] Ding-dong bitch. You could probably
[00:12:15] Eat at a restaurant run out not pay
[00:12:19] Hell you probably can get away with speeding if you're in the right vehicle because cameras weren't everywhere
[00:12:25] People didn't have them in their phones it wasn't immediate like you could literally I saw comedian talk about
[00:12:31] Like you could be a serial killer and they would get so bored. We wouldn't find them the serial killer the right notes
[00:12:37] To the newspaper say hey, I'm over here. Here's some clues
[00:12:42] Because you couldn't get caught
[00:12:44] now
[00:12:46] your phone
[00:12:48] your car
[00:12:50] your watch
[00:12:51] Your iPad your MacBook your laptop your
[00:12:57] Fitbit everything you carry around with you all the time tracks you my car when I get it in the morning
[00:13:05] One day through Friday when the map pops up it tells me how long it takes you to get to work
[00:13:11] I've never set work as a destination because it's the same building. I've been going to for the last ten years
[00:13:19] I don't need my map to tell me that but my car knows and my phone knows that
[00:13:25] Multiple hours out of the week Monday through Friday. The car is parked at this location. It must be work
[00:13:33] So you're gonna get tracked down just not to John T Porter
[00:13:37] You were gonna get tracked down and the and the way you could tell you know, you were doing something wrong
[00:13:44] Is the same way? I'll give another military related story
[00:13:48] When we were deployed the first one went to Iraq we use this thing called Eagle cash
[00:13:53] You had like a little kiosk you connected your bank to the card through finance
[00:13:59] It was all secure is all internal secure. They're like don't use your debit cards
[00:14:05] At the BX the basic change those are stores on base
[00:14:08] Don't use a debit card there because it prints out two receipts the receipt you get and the second receipt goes in
[00:14:14] the drawer with your whole
[00:14:16] credit card number on it
[00:14:18] Well that exchanges between like six to seven people's hands before the end of the day
[00:14:24] So what they would do is they would do a test
[00:14:27] if someone decided to steal your credit card, they would do a
[00:14:30] 10-cent transaction a
[00:14:33] $10 transaction a
[00:14:35] $20 transaction
[00:14:37] If you didn't flag any of those
[00:14:40] That's when he would buy the thousand dollar airline ticket
[00:14:44] For whatever reason on your card
[00:14:46] His first bet was $15
[00:14:50] It went up to $22,000. So he did the $15 to see if anyone would catch it
[00:14:57] And I'm gonna do 150 then we do 500
[00:15:01] And now I'm gonna go all the tooth. So then the way they got caught
[00:15:08] Allegedly
[00:15:09] his inside man
[00:15:12] Bet $8,000 on a bunch of parlay's for him that was gonna pay out 1.1 billion dollars
[00:15:21] Somebody in that group has to say all right, hold on dog
[00:15:26] Who's recently been suspended for this and how they get caught?
[00:15:29] Well, Kevin really got caught because the IP address that he was using
[00:15:34] Jameson Williams got caught cuz he was using the facility
[00:15:38] Another guy in NFL got caught because he was
[00:15:42] Suspended Jameson Williams see faces
[00:15:45] They all got suspended go throwback
[00:15:49] Pete Rose got suspended when they found out he was betting on his own team
[00:15:53] It's like everybody's getting caught at this stop sign not coming to a complete stop getting tickets
[00:16:00] You're seeing it live on TV. You're hearing the outrage. We're hearing the same argument
[00:16:05] Well, they're in bed with the betting organizations cool the NFL NBA
[00:16:10] MLB NHL
[00:16:13] It's heavily everybody's in bed with the betting organizations cool. You can't do that
[00:16:19] And you keep blowing through this stop sign every three months another guy gets caught
[00:16:25] Well, tiny maybe he's dodging something. I think his story seems a little legitimate
[00:16:31] Maybe there's some holes in it
[00:16:33] But as far as investigation that they've reported they've been doing it seems as if it's on the up-and-up
[00:16:39] Oh boy was scamming them on the low low
[00:16:42] But you literally get your friend to bet eight genes on you and then you go play three minutes and leave with an illness
[00:16:48] How you get sick in three minutes?
[00:16:52] Twice twice and he bet
[00:16:57] thousands of dollars on you to hit the under so
[00:17:01] It's unfortunate that this happened on top of the fact that like let's keep it a beat his brother has a hundred million dollar contract
[00:17:07] And I get it. That's his brother's money
[00:17:12] That's like
[00:17:13] Do you really need the 1.1 million dollars?
[00:17:17] Okay, you just play basketball and get to that money
[00:17:22] And so imagine one of these WNBA players
[00:17:25] You know looking at him making four hundred and fifteen thousand a year doing this and
[00:17:32] They're making seventy thousand bucks
[00:17:35] In their entire salary on us on a game
[00:17:41] Goes under right? Yeah, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense
[00:17:47] You know, and I'm sure he got more money than was reported. I'm sure he got
[00:17:52] Side cuts of whatever like people were winning so, you know
[00:17:56] He's still made out. Okay, but not worth throwing it all away. No, he did not make enough money
[00:18:03] No at at 611
[00:18:08] Athletic the same all the stuff they're saying about the boys like Edie because he can't play defense on the perimeter
[00:18:14] He can like Porter can do that
[00:18:17] So at a minimum he's gonna be able to be on an NBA franchise because he's 611 and he's athletic enough to at least
[00:18:25] show on a 6 7 6 8
[00:18:29] His brother is like he's got potential somewhere. Yeah, you can't teach size a 611 athletic
[00:18:38] Energy guy I'll pay you he could have got to buy another contract for
[00:18:43] three years
[00:18:45] 14 million dollars from somebody. Yeah
[00:18:48] But instead he's banned for life. I don't know if you can appeal that I don't know if you I
[00:18:55] Don't know if you go Tim Donahue like listen, I got some other information so you let me back in or
[00:19:01] I don't know
[00:19:03] Watch the cookie crumble but mr. Logical. Are you ready for a question?
[00:19:09] Waiting on it all day. I have no idea what it's about
[00:19:15] So I think most people have pretty
[00:19:19] Much dug their heels in the sand and at least think that one
[00:19:24] At least one of Denver or Boston has gone to the finals
[00:19:29] So neither one or if another team outside of these two make the finals
[00:19:35] Who will it be? But before you answer that question? I'm listening. I gotta give you my stat of the day
[00:19:42] Okay, I'm waiting all day to say this out loud
[00:19:47] In the last 21 years
[00:19:52] There have been three
[00:19:55] Three number one seeds from the Eastern Conference that have made the NBA finals
[00:20:03] Three
[00:20:05] Alright so now trivia time. Can you tell me who the last one was?
[00:20:12] The last number one seed in the East to make the finals
[00:20:17] I'm not winning the finals, but just simply makes them make it. Yeah
[00:20:27] That's too easy so it's probably not it just say come on we got time
[00:20:31] You know, we got it. We got a show to do. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking of thing
[00:20:34] I'm thinking give me five seconds
[00:20:37] Ah
[00:20:42] 2013 heat 2016 calves
[00:20:47] You know came back from 3-1 you heard of them, you know, but
[00:20:52] the other
[00:20:54] The other two teams are the Miami Heat
[00:20:57] You know and New Jersey nets way back when so, you know, but yeah
[00:21:03] I just thought that was interesting stat. So I wanted to know from you
[00:21:07] If there is a team that is not Boston or Denver
[00:21:11] That makes the finals who is it?
[00:21:17] It ain't them on it ain't them
[00:21:23] See for me in the East I think it's Boston and
[00:21:31] Nobody else okay, I don't see I don't see I don't see
[00:21:37] I see a lack of continuity
[00:21:41] With Milwaukee I
[00:21:44] Don't know if Cleveland has the firepower
[00:21:48] To win at that point you'd have to win 12 games
[00:21:52] to get to the finals
[00:21:55] I
[00:21:57] Like the Knicks I like what they're doing with Jalen Bronson. They give me there
[00:22:01] but if
[00:22:03] I had to guess I would say Minnesota
[00:22:08] Because Minnesota plays defense
[00:22:12] They have they play great defense the defensive player of the year
[00:22:19] Moves better than Denver's best offensive player who's also a big so I think that matchup if
[00:22:27] If Minnesota is rolling, I think go bare could
[00:22:31] Be effective against Jokic
[00:22:34] I would say okay see but I don't know who on okay. See could really slow down
[00:22:41] Yo, kids to make it tough to beat Denver
[00:22:45] So I will say Minnesota because they have cat whenever he gets back
[00:22:50] Yeah, the bench like I get you know, we talk about that
[00:22:53] But sometimes it's like you only play by eight guys in the playoffs anyway, I could have swore
[00:23:00] We're playing role reversal because I said that
[00:23:04] Me out for Denver's bench and that's what I said
[00:23:08] yeah, but like I
[00:23:09] Was never really like a big thing like on the bench my thing was like Jamal Murray is your second guys come back from injury
[00:23:18] You know, Izzy laboring is it is he getting a lot of treatment on off days?
[00:23:23] Because in the second round they start doing like every other day to kind of speed it along
[00:23:28] So I will say Minnesota out of the West simply because I think they could send at a minimum they could put
[00:23:37] Cat comes back. He plays
[00:23:39] Go bear and Nas read as big bodies
[00:23:44] Who've played big minutes on?
[00:23:47] Him I don't think there's another team out West. I could be wrong
[00:23:51] I don't think Phoenix has the bodies to throw at Denver if they were ever matchup in any part of the playoffs
[00:23:58] I don't think the Clippers was Zubox maybe but I don't think there's a
[00:24:02] They don't have another guy cuz Zubox is not gonna make Yoke his work on the other end
[00:24:07] Oh, so you just want disrespect Plumlee like that, huh?
[00:24:12] Like they could defend them but you know if you hot you hot like if he if he's going for his normal
[00:24:20] 27 to 28 points 9 and 10 assists 10 read, you know 9 11 rebounds some of that range
[00:24:27] If he's doing that he's good. He doesn't need to like doesn't need a lot of dribbles
[00:24:32] He doesn't need a the ball a lot
[00:24:34] He just needs to make plays and if he can basically rest on the defensive end because Plumlee is not gonna make you work
[00:24:42] Zubox not gonna make you work cat might make you work
[00:24:46] Go Bears always looking for a lob or an offensive rebound
[00:24:49] So you're gonna have to put in some kind of work so if they can effectively, you know
[00:24:54] To question him on an offensive end or make it like game two against Miami in the finals last year
[00:25:01] We got think he had like 30 something points, but I'm like three or four assists
[00:25:05] Minnesota can make him have one of those games
[00:25:07] I don't see anybody else out West that can make him do that even with a D on him cuz a D
[00:25:13] Works offensive
[00:25:14] I think a D put so much energy into the offensive in
[00:25:17] With all the dribbling and the shooting and the pick and pops and shooting 18 footers and running around and coming off screens and setting screens
[00:25:25] Yo, kids is like sliding back and forth and I let you shoot this 18 foot jumper
[00:25:29] But now you got a deal with me in a post
[00:25:33] So that's that's that's the difference. All right
[00:25:36] So I will agree with you
[00:25:39] That it has to be a West team
[00:25:42] Because Boston is just that much better than everybody this year the only concern that I do have about Boston is
[00:25:50] Boston and late game situations, you know because we've talked about you know, the 50-point wins, you know
[00:25:57] They're point differential, you know, so do I trust Missoula in?
[00:26:03] Clutch situations. Do I trust Jason Tatum and clutch situations to not take the dumb
[00:26:09] And you're talking about them getting out of the East yeah just period like that's my only concern about them
[00:26:15] I don't think they're gonna be in that many late game situations in the East because I think what they do
[00:26:23] The way they shoot the three
[00:26:25] The way they play defense and the way they press
[00:26:29] The pressure that you have to work defensively to stop
[00:26:34] We could talk about Jalen Bryan not being able to go left all you want but he's 6 8
[00:26:39] athletic
[00:26:40] He has a green light
[00:26:42] Jason Tatum 6 8 6 9 athletic has a green light
[00:26:46] Prozingis the unicorn playing tough drew holiday defensively also guy can handle the ball
[00:26:52] Derek white shooter Horford shooter. It's just I don't know if you can relax on a defensive end of you any one of these other
[00:26:59] Yeah, don't
[00:27:04] Get if you if you turn your head the wrong way Sam Howser or light you up to
[00:27:11] Like I'm at he's at 26 feet like I'm not getting any closer than this so
[00:27:16] I'm letting it fly from here. But I'm gonna go out on a limb here and
[00:27:21] I know it's gonna be crazy sounding given of the things that I've said in the past
[00:27:27] But
[00:27:36] Okay, see cuz they got they got the guy that's a walk-in 30-point, you know SGA
[00:27:41] You know Jalen Williams has stepped up this year, you know averaging 21 22 points a game
[00:27:48] You got check on
[00:27:50] Defenses the anchor to outlet guy, you know
[00:27:53] He can also step out and hit a shot and pull your big away from the basket, you know
[00:27:58] And they're also a top eight defensive team as well
[00:28:02] My knock on OKC all season has been there rebounding
[00:28:06] You know and how if they played somebody like the Lakers they would get pushed around
[00:28:11] Bullied and you know that would be make a long series. But what they're in their rebounding discrepancy
[00:28:18] indicative of their lack of size
[00:28:20] It is it is but you know who else had a lack of size, I mean granted they had the greatest shooter ever
[00:28:27] You know, but it wasn't like the Warriors were ever I mean they had a bogey
[00:28:31] You know, they had Kavanh Looney, but you know, they had they had
[00:28:37] They had states they had McGee they had bogey they had Fessa Zazila
[00:28:42] They had Draymond even though he's undersized
[00:28:45] They had guys that were just literally out there to rebound right with outstanding shooters and okay see this is the playoffs that we're talking about
[00:28:53] So you're always looking for somebody to step up
[00:28:55] You're always looking for who can get us a game when our guy is having an off night
[00:29:01] And okay, see we're not a guy Gordon Hayward, you know, so and you have home court advantage
[00:29:08] Yes, so if you can I want this or like
[00:29:12] If you can steal a game at Denver if that because that's that's probably looking like the the Western Conference
[00:29:19] If I had to pick somebody from the East
[00:29:22] You know which I would never do but if I had to pick somebody from the East gotta be the Dicks. No
[00:29:31] Philly no
[00:29:34] The 96 Chicago Bulls
[00:29:37] Correct no, I would have to take the Pacers I
[00:29:46] Would take the Pacers
[00:29:47] Because I was thinking about something you said the other night right about Mr.
[00:29:52] Embiid and his playoff, you know moments in lack thereof
[00:29:56] Yeah, he dropped like nine points in the playoffs, you know, and then and what did I see last night? I
[00:30:02] Saw him go six for 17
[00:30:05] You know now granted he came on late put the game away and everything made some plays at the end of the game
[00:30:11] But it was a continuation of what you were talking about the other day
[00:30:15] You know which concerned me when you look at Miami not necessarily being the biggest team out there
[00:30:22] You know and they were playing zone
[00:30:25] So he was playing four and a half on five from the air quarter to the end of the game with Jimmy Butler on
[00:30:31] The floor then yet this MVP the rain
[00:30:35] MVP
[00:30:36] Couldn't make them pay
[00:30:39] You know, so
[00:30:41] And while this is true aren't why this is true. You know, they do have
[00:30:46] Playoff games. They do have the champion Pascal Siakam
[00:30:50] You know, you know who's gonna help on defense as well
[00:30:54] Halliburton is going to find the shooters
[00:30:57] So, you know, but what it's not about Indiana per se
[00:31:01] It's about the other teams in the East, you know, because like you said Cleveland they need Donovan Mitchell to probably average
[00:31:09] 35 if they were playing against Boston
[00:31:17] The Knicks, you know, I don't know who can score outside of Brunson, you know
[00:31:22] But I did see a stat that said that when Brunson and adinobia are on the floor together
[00:31:27] They
[00:31:28] Average 20.3 more points per 100 possessions
[00:31:33] Then when they're not on the floor together, so that's pretty telling
[00:31:38] But Tim's is gonna run the Knicks into the ground
[00:31:42] I think that narrative is kind of being
[00:31:46] Because just like this. I don't know he played Dante de Vincenzo aka white Dante 55 minutes
[00:31:53] They play a lot of minutes but
[00:31:57] Let's let's just simply be realistic
[00:32:00] These are some of the best athletes in the world playing the sport that they train and played for
[00:32:06] At this point there in their mid-20s
[00:32:08] They probably played competitively very hard for the last 12 or 13 years once they were like 7th and 8th grade
[00:32:16] They got to play a few more games. So
[00:32:19] When we get to like our predictions the Knicks versus Philly
[00:32:23] They're gonna play tough and I know historically it was like Oh Tibbs is work Tim's teams were never
[00:32:30] Built to win it all ever and they still are
[00:32:34] But that's the thing. It's not the fact that they just get tired because he played him a lot of minutes
[00:32:39] It's because Derek Rose was being hacked
[00:32:46] Wait in LeBron James every time he got the ball cuz it was like you had a young Jimmy Butler
[00:32:50] You had like
[00:32:53] It just was like he got the best out of the guys that he had 60 wins out of that MVP their gross team
[00:33:02] We Hall of Famers there's three Hall of Famers in a heat team the last time yet
[00:33:06] The last time Tim's had a real team that had a real shot at playoff success
[00:33:11] They ran up against three Hall of Famers on the court
[00:33:14] They
[00:33:17] Shot last year, they just got out toughed by Miami
[00:33:26] Once again
[00:33:28] Hall of Fame management Hall of Fame coach
[00:33:36] Put these guys in there they had the
[00:33:39] Physicality and everything else I
[00:33:42] Think the narrative around the temps plan
[00:33:46] When was the last time you saw a typical team in the conference finals? That's the thing
[00:33:50] I don't think he has it's not as if tibbado had
[00:33:55] The Sixers team of last year and fizzled out the way doc river. Well, he had that team
[00:34:00] They really be in trouble and be the really had that team
[00:34:04] Talking about him as one of the greatest coaches. We've ever
[00:34:08] Talked about how he took two years off the MB's career
[00:34:12] Nah, I think he'd figure out a way like you know, this dude can't run my system. I'm gonna give him 30
[00:34:16] I'm gonna give him 29 and 32 minutes
[00:34:19] But like I say, he's never really had a team that was like, oh these players on this team should be
[00:34:27] in the final four or final either did Rick Carlisle
[00:34:33] With who would Dirk and Jason kid to Hall of Famers
[00:34:37] Yeah, Jason kid that was 38 years old
[00:34:41] dirt
[00:34:47] They had an improbable run but they still had I think Dirk I know this is gonna sound crazy
[00:34:54] Derek Rose was a great young player. I still think Dirk was more dynamic as an NBA player like
[00:35:02] in-game
[00:35:03] mismatch
[00:35:04] Taking it on like you could defend Dirk
[00:35:08] With anyone he was seven feet tall and we should one-legged follow no until that playoff run
[00:35:13] You just let dirt play against himself and he would just usually lose to himself
[00:35:17] Yeah, and sometimes you just you just it all comes together
[00:35:22] Never think Tim's ever been in that position. So
[00:35:27] You're saying Indiana right right and then Orlando Orlando's too young
[00:35:32] You know, so from the standpoint of
[00:35:36] They don't have the talent that okay see has they're young but they don't they're not as dynamic as okay
[00:35:42] See is yeah, then you got the Bucs. I don't even need to talk about Glenn anymore. We've been all over that
[00:35:48] You know, it's it's imagine Tim's had the Bucs
[00:35:51] You swap you swap those. I
[00:35:54] Don't know
[00:35:56] The Knicks I think just like I said, they don't have enough scoring and then
[00:36:01] Did I miss anybody
[00:36:04] Cleveland oh, yeah. Well, I did mention Cleveland
[00:36:07] I said that Donovan Mitchell would have to average 35 against Boston to win that series and he could do that
[00:36:13] But it would take but he wouldn't get 20 28 before you would take him like 28 35 shots. Yeah
[00:36:18] Yeah, so so so yeah, so I think Boston is the safe bet here
[00:36:22] Denver like I'm still
[00:36:25] The West is more
[00:36:28] But the West is just tough this year the West is more intriguing because not the whole like I say
[00:36:36] Like you made the argument for okay see I think I made a pretty
[00:36:41] Good if we if we were being graded, I got a debate show and someone was like, you know
[00:36:46] I think you made a valid I think I made a valid argument
[00:36:50] I think Minnesota's a great answer. I just don't
[00:36:53] See somebody else could make an argument for Phoenix and
[00:36:59] And have and get really like, you know, like somebody else would you know what?
[00:37:03] You make a lot of valid points and then yeah, what else you come right in?
[00:37:06] Like listen, I know the Lakers are they had to come to the play-in or whatever the case may be
[00:37:11] But I think this and and that's the beauty part about the West in the East
[00:37:17] It's all kind of predicated on
[00:37:20] Boston
[00:37:23] Either their coaching staff or their top player because we talked about Jason Tatum's
[00:37:30] Lack of collectiveness. I like I guess I don't know what word I don't want to use any kind of late years
[00:37:36] Or is late his late game
[00:37:40] Issues issues we use that word we'll go with that
[00:37:45] If we look at if we look at the
[00:37:49] So the Lakers are so the Lakers
[00:37:57] He still played yeah, he went six for 16 to yeah
[00:38:06] Like I said I
[00:38:08] like I like
[00:38:11] The NBA is set up granted is 20 out of the 30 teams make the playoffs essentially
[00:38:16] But I do like the matchups. I like
[00:38:20] potential first round
[00:38:22] So much why don't we talk about them? I
[00:38:29] Do terrible at this every year we were doing it we would do this show for over a year
[00:38:33] We've had multiple playoff series. We had conversations. I messed it up every time you wonder what okay, I'm gonna keep doing it
[00:38:40] All right. Well, let's take it from the top. We're gonna start in the West, you know
[00:38:44] You know, we're waiting on to see who okay sees gonna play between Sacramento
[00:38:49] And
[00:38:50] Okay, see either way in five Sacramento a sweep if it's New Orleans
[00:38:57] Zion with the hamstring issue see Jay
[00:39:01] That he's dame but he's more like lame, you know
[00:39:06] Zion
[00:39:07] New Orleans beats LA is Zion stays on the floor is Zion plays three more minutes
[00:39:13] He finishes with
[00:39:19] 40
[00:39:20] 746 47 points because he's getting to the hoop at will and
[00:39:28] He's getting fouled once or twice
[00:39:31] So I'm getting I'm giving them six to eight more points
[00:39:35] So between 46 and 48 points he ends that game damn near 50 points
[00:39:41] LeBron, maybe LeBron turns it on. Maybe LeBron doesn't pass the ball
[00:39:45] But he was having an off night and he normally doesn't if he's having an off night
[00:39:49] He doesn't normally go like hey
[00:39:52] Let's do this with three minutes left. Like he doesn't turn it on that lead
[00:39:56] I think he would have kept giving it to whoever he felt was hot
[00:39:59] And I think Zion would have kept taking it to the hoop. It would have been tough for LA to win that game
[00:40:04] Yeah, he's out now with the hamstring. So yes, I got Sacramento winning that they're playing a matchup. Okay, see gentlemen sweep
[00:40:11] Okay, see gentlemen sweep we'll give Sacramento game like the bean we'll give a game at home probably game three
[00:40:20] Denver LA I've shot out to Nick Wright is one of my first things first one of my favorite shows
[00:40:27] The problem with Nick Wright and his analysis
[00:40:32] And I and I was trying to articulate I was gonna text you earlier. I'm gonna try to get out on the show
[00:40:36] Before you say that Mike you got to remember now you got to remember
[00:40:41] The I just got benched with seven minutes left against the Lakers the other night because of how ineffective he was
[00:40:48] Coming on and it's no Zion Zion. It's no Zion man
[00:40:53] I don't but be I would be dope somewhere else where he stirred
[00:40:58] Alright, Billy instead of Kelly Umbray be as a beast. All right
[00:41:03] Be I needs to be but one of the Bazingas role, but I'll continue shout out to Dallas Mike always shining. I appreciate your support
[00:41:12] So with the Dallas LA series
[00:41:17] But the Denver LA series we got Dallas one mine
[00:41:21] You
[00:41:23] I'm a logical thinker
[00:41:26] You can't give me
[00:41:29] information
[00:41:30] Such as hey LeBron James hasn't won a game in Denver in four years
[00:41:42] Anthony Davis loses to these big men at this rate
[00:41:49] The Lakers don't have a dynamic third score and
[00:41:54] Then turn around and say to me
[00:41:57] Lakers don't have a dynamic third score
[00:42:00] And then they're going to be the first to win this series in six because that's what he did today on TV
[00:42:07] He has the Lakers winning this series and six win
[00:42:11] Four games out of the seven if it goes seven or whatever the case may be if it goes six
[00:42:19] That means four of the six games are in Denver and
[00:42:23] LeBron hasn't won a game there eight years and
[00:42:27] The other top big men in the West
[00:42:32] More than likely Denver and five
[00:42:38] Maybe even folk I
[00:42:42] Can't see it going more than that I'm gonna say I'm gonna say Denver in five
[00:42:48] But for different reasons for different reasons
[00:42:52] I think the Lakers have obviously come on
[00:42:56] Since the all-star break, you know ever since the trade rumors DeAngelo Russell has been
[00:43:03] Shooting the ball out of his mind. You know, we know Austin Reeves
[00:43:07] You know, we saw him step up last year in the playoffs at times
[00:43:12] But this is my problem and I've been saying this since the beginning of the season
[00:43:17] There's no Schroeder walking through that door. He was the one dude on that roster
[00:43:22] That could guard Jamal Murray and at least
[00:43:26] bother Jamal Murray
[00:43:28] There's no Vanderbilt out for the season now why they got Gabe Vincent and he could hit some shots. Maybe
[00:43:34] He's not gonna stop or slow down Jamal Murray
[00:43:38] Or all you do is get hurt. Yeah
[00:43:41] He got hurt deflecting a pass the other day
[00:43:45] Getting ice like you deflected a pass and fell down. I think that the Lakers are lazy enough
[00:43:52] That
[00:43:53] Denver's still gonna rock them to sleep on back door cuts
[00:43:58] you know, so I think it's I think it's more of a
[00:44:03] The Lakers haven't addressed anything
[00:44:09] Anything with their roster in three years
[00:44:13] I love LeBron. I swear I swear I love LeBron
[00:44:16] But there's no reason that we talk about them as far as on TV as much as they do with the admiration to him
[00:44:22] Like listen, I watch that game
[00:44:23] I watch multiple times also read come down and LeBron's taking his break in a corner and he go 101
[00:44:30] It should a jumper the answer rusher 101 should a jumper Rui Hatchmore 101 shoot a jumper
[00:44:35] They don't play a good brand of basketball. I don't think they're well coached
[00:44:38] They're not well-built
[00:44:39] The fact that they're in the playoffs is simply because they have one of the greatest players who ever played this sport in the
[00:44:45] History of the planet on their team if you take LeBron off that team and you put any other
[00:44:51] 6-9 small forward on there. They are
[00:44:55] 36 and 46 and are not even a plan they are poorly built team
[00:44:59] I probably said the same thing last year and I'll say it again this year
[00:45:02] They get swept in this round at best five games
[00:45:10] For it
[00:45:12] I'm a logical thinker and it's just like it's nothing they did nothing they have on their team that
[00:45:18] Says they're gonna win more than one game in this year forget the roster in general as far as they just didn't do
[00:45:24] Anything to the roster they didn't do anything
[00:45:28] With
[00:45:30] Anything that Denver did to them last year
[00:45:33] That is gonna make you think that they're gonna reverse the fortune
[00:45:37] Like I know they went out and got Jackson Hayes so they got another body that can collect fouls against yokich
[00:45:44] But what is he providing you on the other end in addition to the fouls?
[00:45:49] You know Vanderbilt like I said is out. There's no Schroeder. I just don't see it
[00:45:54] Alright, so then you go down to the three six. We got Minnesota and Phoenix
[00:46:00] I
[00:46:03] Take it Minnesota. I'm gonna take a lot a lot of my picks are gonna be change another guard
[00:46:11] Picks throughout this entire playoff run I
[00:46:16] know we are in love with the nostalgia of
[00:46:19] these names and
[00:46:21] We've seen them for years and we remember them from college
[00:46:25] But when it boils down to it is your team built for a long run the Phoenix Suns team is not built for a long
[00:46:32] Run, there's no size
[00:46:34] There are three best players all injury prone Booker is bound to miss a game with a hamstring
[00:46:40] KD is just he's been playing great this year, but he doesn't give you he doesn't give you anything
[00:46:47] dynamic on the opposite end of the floor
[00:46:51] Bradley bill could give you 17
[00:46:55] Or he goes three for 14
[00:46:59] You don't have to send a double at him like there's there's no threat on
[00:47:04] Phoenix other than this guy's name is Kevin Durant
[00:47:09] This guy's name is Devin Booker
[00:47:11] He went to the finals with Chris Paul a couple years ago
[00:47:13] But there's nothing on that team that says I have to shift my defensive focus
[00:47:19] I know they won they won this year, but it was those games are early
[00:47:23] I just feel like the young guys are
[00:47:27] going to step up and show and assert them their dominance this playoff series and
[00:47:33] Every series where you have the young guns the old heads aren't gonna be able to out with them
[00:47:38] They didn't just win they won three games by an average of 16
[00:47:44] because
[00:47:46] They put Kevin Durant at small ball five and render go bear
[00:47:52] Ineffective because either cat has to go guard Royce O'Neal and
[00:47:58] Go bear has to go chase Grayson Allen around
[00:48:01] Because neither one of them can stick with KD on the perimeter, you know and on top of that
[00:48:08] They pull go bear out of the paint because you know, they're the jump shooting team
[00:48:13] So they don't necessarily drive to the basket and rely on file calls
[00:48:19] So the bigger percentage of time that you have go bear away from the basket
[00:48:25] The better your offense can perform, you know, we saw Nurkic with a 30 rebound game this year
[00:48:31] so I think that Phoenix I
[00:48:34] Think Minnesota is not a serious team like they're good as far as they have a collection of players
[00:48:42] But I called the dude kitty cat for a reason
[00:48:46] You know, it's because in the playoffs
[00:48:49] He goes from
[00:48:52] King of the jungle lion down to any bitty feline
[00:49:00] Last year though like he's had other playoff like it I don't need Felix to make a long run
[00:49:05] I'm just saying they go win this series, you know, and then you got
[00:49:11] Anthony Edwards, you know, everybody's ready for him to be the face of the league
[00:49:14] We saw him in the play-in last year go one for 14 against the Lakers or whatever it was
[00:49:20] So I just don't think that Minnesota is ready for the big time just yet
[00:49:25] I do like their coach, you know Chris Finch will I don't really like is is
[00:49:31] It's Phoenix is it Minnesota not being ready for the big time or you feel like Phoenix has an actual tangible
[00:49:40] Matchup issue is all about matchups, you know
[00:49:43] So like, you know, there's times that like, you know, we watch boxing, you know
[00:49:47] You see two guys you see one guy that should obviously win the fight
[00:49:53] But then you drag them into your style and yeah, but I don't I rarely see that
[00:49:58] I rarely see a guy in boxing that should beat the other guy that loses
[00:50:03] Because the better the guy with the better assets the better attributes the better training technique tends to win out
[00:50:09] I just feel as if in a seven game series where I have to play
[00:50:16] Jackie mine
[00:50:17] Minnesota's one of the top defensive teams in the league
[00:50:20] Mm-hmm
[00:50:20] and I get that you know, like I said Phoenix success because if we think about like season success a
[00:50:27] Lot of these teams have success against Denver as well
[00:50:30] But that's not really factoring into people's decision to pick Denver or not
[00:50:34] I think
[00:50:37] We'll have to remember this is not a three seed that one say 54 games
[00:50:44] Playing against a succeed that one 39 or 40 like all these teams in the West are already jumbled
[00:50:51] so your difference between your three and your succeed is
[00:50:55] Probably the difference between your three and nine most years
[00:50:58] Yeah, and I get the win disparity
[00:51:01] Like I said with Phoenix who's more likely to have a guy
[00:51:05] Not play a game because of a hamstring Phoenix or Minnesota, but until that happens, that's just conjecture
[00:51:13] You know what you got me on that one
[00:51:17] That was like damn I don't do this I had to use the legal term on you you don't
[00:51:22] Study that I remember that um
[00:51:24] Like I said, I'm glad we don't just just flat agree on it. I'm just I
[00:51:30] Think as an old head myself with the green you see the beard trim down. You still see the grace I
[00:51:38] am perfectly good
[00:51:40] understanding that a
[00:51:42] changing of the guard is
[00:51:45] inevitable
[00:51:46] Definitely this year
[00:51:49] It's that lynch pinpoint. We already got we already got that step is gone
[00:51:54] I think so I don't think so because people are still gonna be gone in the first round
[00:51:59] There's there's there's still is so many people holding out hope for the last couple of years
[00:52:07] That's why the playoff that's why the finals
[00:52:09] That's what we've had these conversations was like who wants to see Phoenix versus Milwaukee is because two years ago
[00:52:18] They wanted like KD and LeBron in the finals
[00:52:21] It's like their teams aren't built for it
[00:52:24] The only reason people wanted certain matchups is because of these guys that we have for lack of a better word grown up on
[00:52:31] Like right I'm older than all these other players was like these guys that have ushered in this this new era of basketball
[00:52:39] Their time is coming to an end and I think it's gonna get all chipped off
[00:52:45] within this first round
[00:52:47] It is but they're not all gonna lose like, you know, like I said steps already home where he belongs
[00:52:53] You know, we're gonna be gone in the first round. I got LeBron gone
[00:52:59] I got the Clippers gone. I got Philly gone. We haven't get there, but we'll talk right right now. I'm taking Dallas
[00:53:05] I'm taking Dallas and seven
[00:53:07] you know
[00:53:09] Provided that Kawai is healthy if you know cuz he's getting these knee injections, you know
[00:53:15] So if he's not healthy which he tends not to be
[00:53:18] Then Dallas wraps this up in five, but either way I think Dallas wins I think the Clippers are just
[00:53:25] Idea they look the part they have the for the era of basketball that we're playing
[00:53:31] I always make the Jason Tatum Jalen Brown Paul George Kawai thing
[00:53:37] Like they look the part
[00:53:39] But they don't got it right here. But that's the thing they looked apart
[00:53:44] Because we're thinking is 2018
[00:53:47] That's why they looked the part
[00:53:49] They looked the part because we hear the name and we think of pre-covid
[00:53:55] Those guys it is four years past Kovac
[00:54:00] They had a chance like with Kawai and Paul George. Get you mine
[00:54:05] Kawai hit the commercial he got Paul George. He basically forced away at OKC
[00:54:11] They've done
[00:54:12] Quote-unquote nothing as far as like championship level
[00:54:17] Competitiveness people pick them. It's like the Buffalo Bills like people pick them and I'm not saying their season been unsuccessful
[00:54:25] But you had nothing that I mean
[00:54:29] Huh, I am you're picking the Clippers no no I'm saying that their season is unsuccessful oh
[00:54:36] Well, like for me like I said, I don't I don't read on the championship thing
[00:54:43] Not you're not getting you're not getting the you're not getting
[00:54:51] The results out of the team based off the names on the back of the jersey
[00:54:56] You got two former MVP's a
[00:55:00] Two time finals MVP and Paul George who was Jason Tatum before Jason Tatum and
[00:55:09] They don't even present themselves as a threat
[00:55:12] They don't present themselves as a threat in the Western Conference right like I'm not talking about like playoff for us to come
[00:55:20] So I'm talking about regular season that team with those names
[00:55:25] Should have been one or two seed and battling for the one or two seed
[00:55:30] But three or four games above three or four and they've never been like that
[00:55:36] Never been like that
[00:55:39] When they first got hard and they were something they started like
[00:55:43] They started Owen five or something like that and then they went night in great, right?
[00:55:48] Yeah
[00:55:49] They went 19 and three after that or something along those lines and then it all came back to the me
[00:55:54] So the Clippers are who they are and they're gonna go home where has any green
[00:56:00] Hashtag green we're
[00:56:02] To the east now give me Boston in a sweep no matter who they play because you know
[00:56:08] I've been giving me butlers out with the MCL sprain. Unfortunately now I'll be white
[00:56:15] Robin me of a great storyline that I was looking forward to for
[00:56:20] For Boston against Miami
[00:56:23] Evolution of the city healthy healthy Jimmy Butler they still didn't sweat and then you got the Bulls
[00:56:30] You know coming through with Kobe white, you know, like you said 42 last night
[00:56:35] But it doesn't count as his career high because the play in stats don't count
[00:56:39] So, you know, but he still did it against night or never mind gonna go there
[00:56:45] Probably Trey Young's last game in that uniform
[00:56:48] But as we transition on past that series because we don't
[00:56:53] Murray inspired my haircut
[00:57:01] All these years and he still won't give props to Nas so then you know, you got the mix
[00:57:08] Against the Sixers in the two-seven matchup, so go ahead and give it to me sell me on the Knicks man
[00:57:14] I got the Knicks and five man
[00:57:16] Both all right
[00:57:22] We got a team
[00:57:25] That had a
[00:57:28] That has a superstar on it
[00:57:31] Missed a bunch of games superstar was on a tear
[00:57:34] Missed a bunch of games
[00:57:36] They got another young gun on the team
[00:57:39] He kept him afloat
[00:57:42] At least in conversation you would think he kept him afloat
[00:57:46] But the young star even with a good coach
[00:57:50] was 16 and 27 without the guy who was having a
[00:57:56] career year
[00:57:59] The career year guy comes back
[00:58:01] Plays a few games misses a couple more and then in the play-in
[00:58:06] They're playing against four and a half guys on the other end and they went by a point
[00:58:13] So if I told you
[00:58:16] That the team that had their best player who's consistently
[00:58:24] Unprepared physically for the playoffs whether it's injury fatigue mental fatigue
[00:58:30] Relationship with the coach and the other player whatever it is every single year
[00:58:34] He seems to be not ready to make a playoff run
[00:58:38] Every single year his point production drops because if we think about
[00:58:43] He was averaging draw the beans after like 36 points before he got injured
[00:58:49] Last night was their first
[00:58:51] playoff game
[00:58:53] Gaelic with 23
[00:58:57] He's last few years he's dropped off
[00:59:01] 9 and 10 points from his
[00:59:04] Season scoring average to his playoff scoring average. So what you showed me last night was it's
[00:59:12] Par for the course. I'm that's what I'm gonna get from you. I
[00:59:17] Don't know how you could turn around tell me that
[00:59:20] This same guy is gonna be able to turn it on
[00:59:23] with no evidence
[00:59:27] That he's ever turned it on and
[00:59:30] The city and they were pulling the players
[00:59:33] They were born as guys when they're down 13 14 points twice
[00:59:36] You just gave me no evidence for Kat and Anthony Edwards remember that
[00:59:49] I said that they I said that at a minimum their size could impact
[00:59:57] Because that exists that exists
[00:59:59] That's not evidence not evidence
[01:00:04] Evidence is what the difference of play the year their team is the team is top in defense
[01:00:09] So like that's why that that that's why my statement of their size
[01:00:15] Impacting him
[01:00:16] Denver I'm talking about when I'm talking about the series against Phoenix. You said I think
[01:00:22] That the young guys are gonna say that's not okay
[01:00:25] Yeah, I gave you the conjecture point you trying to bring it back up
[01:00:28] No, I'm just saying because I'm gonna take the Knicks in seven
[01:00:32] I'm taking a Nixon five. I'm taking the Knicks in seven. I think that the Knicks
[01:00:40] I'm gonna tell you how I'm gonna tell you the Knicks are gonna struggle to score
[01:00:45] For one, you know, that's part one
[01:00:48] You know
[01:00:49] So outside when Jalen Brunson gets off the floor for his one minute a game break or his two minutes a game break
[01:00:56] Yes, I know much yeah
[01:00:58] he's gonna go on eight two runs to keep the games close and
[01:01:04] They got IV in the tunnel at Madison Square Garden
[01:01:07] Yeah, by the time we get to game five by the time we get the game five
[01:01:11] You know young as he is Jalen Brunson is gonna be a little bit worn down first round
[01:01:17] They get a couple days though. I know
[01:01:22] So you get it you get some recovery time and beat is gonna have
[01:01:26] At least one
[01:01:27] 30-point game
[01:01:30] That will catapult Philly to a win
[01:01:34] Nick nurse is gonna out coach Timber though and another game
[01:01:41] You know, so now I'm looking at the Knicks and I'm saying where is it gonna come from there's no Emmanuel quickly
[01:01:49] Coming off that bench
[01:01:51] Okay, real quick real quick. So the out coaching piece
[01:01:53] So was
[01:01:56] Nick but to getting 20 points or whatever you got last night a
[01:02:01] Coaching thing. No, he just made plays. He just made plays. I
[01:02:06] Don't think I don't tell me who on the Knicks is gonna do that
[01:02:16] It ain't Josh Lord
[01:02:19] I'm like not hard to scrappy and all that but it ain't
[01:02:22] Don't forget
[01:02:25] The six was half Kyle Lowry yeah, and I watched Kyle Lowry
[01:02:30] You just I watched Kyle Lowry get steals and get to the rim and get to the block and look the pass the ball
[01:02:39] Literally I literally watched him slow down on
[01:02:43] Multiple steals multiple fast breaks and not look to score
[01:02:47] The ball if in bead is not on if he's not on which he is shown not to be in the playoffs
[01:02:55] Yeah, you're gonna be off seven or for seven games. It's look at look at his
[01:03:01] Let's back up let's back up when maxi and him bead start this year they are 32 and 7
[01:03:08] But that was pre the
[01:03:12] Currently they're on a non game win streak actually he hasn't played that many games post-injury
[01:03:18] He's on a
[01:03:20] Right hasn't played that many games post-injury
[01:03:24] Last night, that's how you look for the rest of the play. Did they not win?
[01:03:29] Yes, they went by point
[01:03:32] We went six foot 24. What did he do?
[01:03:36] He went six foot 24. What did he do?
[01:03:38] No, we went six foot 24, what did he do?
[01:03:43] He's a mother game seven again
[01:03:51] We had also the year before was finals MVP so you can you're allowed to have an off game if
[01:03:58] You if I move a lot. I'm not talking about the game. I'm just saying
[01:04:03] If you're my group of friends and I move quite often
[01:04:08] And I've moved four times in two years and three of those times you showed up to help me move
[01:04:13] If you can't make it the fourth time, I'm not like, you know what?
[01:04:17] He's a slouch
[01:04:18] But if I move four times and you've only showed up one time and you showed up late you ain't been no tape
[01:04:24] Boxes nothing you moved two boxes and you left. I'll be like, yo dog
[01:04:29] You post me my man I move four times and like every time I need to move like every time I need you
[01:04:33] To rely on you you're not available
[01:04:36] Joel would be I like to well and be but we have evidence to support that he doesn't get you past second round
[01:04:43] That's why I didn't pick them to win the series, but let me address these
[01:04:50] If you got it if you got a series going seven in my opinion that means you're giving
[01:04:57] The team that you eventually picked to lose a chance
[01:05:00] Yeah
[01:05:03] Six at best
[01:05:05] It's a toss-up. I'm like if I see a series going seven, it's a toss-up
[01:05:10] I don't know definitely who's gonna win because I'm
[01:05:14] If you can win three out of six, I'm like, okay, then it's a toss-up
[01:05:17] I can't definitively say this player is gonna step up in this
[01:05:21] That's how I look at this series but like so to address this stuff. So yes, Mike. I like Deuce McBride
[01:05:28] I don't know how many minutes he's actually going to play in this series, you know
[01:05:32] Mitchell Robinson is back and he looks worse than Embiid does he's looking nothing like
[01:05:37] You know, Isaiah Hardenstein is actually the one who guards Embiid better and
[01:05:44] Thibodeau likes to leave Hardenstein on
[01:05:47] Embiid 101 if they could keep him out of the paint. So that's your matchup Dante DiVincenzo
[01:05:53] Yes, you know that that is a good answer
[01:05:56] You know Bob Donovan has not looked good at all this season with the Knicks since the trade
[01:06:01] So like he's one of those things that mr. Logical was talking about where it's a name
[01:06:07] You know the main and all that stuff that we know but he's not necessarily playing in that way
[01:06:12] You know, so we hope we hope that both of you
[01:06:16] Yeah, you know shows up but we don't know that he's gonna show up because he has it to this point
[01:06:21] Now with that being said, you know, like I said maxi just the other night, you know
[01:06:26] You picked maxi is the most improved player, you know say something like
[01:06:31] The Sixers have avenues to win games. I'm not saying they don't have avenues
[01:06:36] I just think that a lot of their I think they're reliant on a guy who has been
[01:06:43] hampered every single year and
[01:06:46] In
[01:06:47] This year he's hampered on his way into the playoffs
[01:06:52] But he got injured a while ago and I
[01:06:55] Listen, if he's ever to watch this podcast, I'm not trying to shit on Joel and be I'm just looking at it logically
[01:07:01] If I'm if I'm gonna make a bet
[01:07:03] I'm not gonna bet on the team that has the guy who's 30 who has been injured since he was 23
[01:07:10] He missed two years injury in every single year. He's injured
[01:07:16] Again
[01:07:20] Think about how good he is as a basketball player and think about the success that his teams of it would you take
[01:07:28] healthy
[01:07:29] Kawaii or in B both of them healthy based on their regular season performances
[01:07:34] No playoffs just like yo look what this guy's doing and you would take you would take him B
[01:07:39] You would take him beat but look at what happens after he gets injured
[01:07:44] I know Kawaii's in the same boat, but Kawaii at least has a couple of years where he was fully healthy
[01:07:52] to through the end and in those years he has
[01:07:56] He was with the Spurs granted. They lost the the the Miami Heatles
[01:08:01] Ray Allen jumpside game six and then the following year they came back
[01:08:06] They won the finals he gets you know, he has injuries
[01:08:09] But he gets traded and he finishes out a whole year and he goes to Toronto and he wasn't in a championship
[01:08:14] Grant a lot of players went west but at least you can say well when he is here and available
[01:08:20] We get this far and B's been available in every elimination game
[01:08:26] That the Sixers have walked out of that stadium under
[01:08:34] This is why sports are so funny because you saying all that as if I pick the Sixers to win the series
[01:08:44] I was like
[01:08:51] I was sitting here for a minute like arguing with you and then after I stepped back for a second
[01:08:56] I was like
[01:09:02] I was thinking like we agree on this
[01:09:04] I
[01:09:13] Just don't like hearing
[01:09:18] Will move on
[01:09:21] Give me Indiana in six. I'll take that you know
[01:09:27] Milwaukee they have that Philadelphia Eagle syndrome where it's like you
[01:09:34] Because I was actually going to say that
[01:09:36] They're limping into the playoffs like the Eagles Indiana's your Tampa that
[01:09:41] Nobody expected them to be here. Why are they here?
[01:09:45] What are they gonna do, you know?
[01:09:49] They're gonna run Milwaukee out the gym, that's what they're gonna do
[01:09:52] We don't know when Yonis is coming back, you know
[01:09:55] We know he's not gonna be there for game one at the very least
[01:09:58] We saw last year what happened when Yonis is not there
[01:10:02] It was and and even if Yonis does come back at some point in this series, I don't know if this is the team
[01:10:12] The way that they've run. I don't know if this is the team coming off of a calf injury
[01:10:16] You said wall around Yonis even with them there. I
[01:10:21] Think so you still could just build a wall because I think Dame like is the only other threat, you know Middleton
[01:10:27] It hasn't been effective, you know, Brooke Lopez if he gets 19 points, you'll live with that, you know
[01:10:35] Bobby Portis is a good player but still a role player. So, you know, Indiana, you know, I've seen
[01:10:43] Well, I know they wish they were playing the Hawks because they played the Hawks four times this year
[01:10:48] And in three of those games, they put up 150 so I'm sure they would love to see the Hawks again
[01:10:53] But Milwaukee's defense is just as bad
[01:10:56] You know now what has improved since Doc Rivers has taken over, you know Glenn since Glenn is taking over
[01:11:04] Their transition defense has gotten better, but I still wouldn't call it good
[01:11:09] And while miles Turner made this
[01:11:12] Real quick shout out to you know our homeland. You were in the real Salt Lake Jersey
[01:11:18] NHL approves
[01:11:20] Coyotes moved to Salt Lake City. They have a Ryan Smith on and showing you have it jazz and the
[01:11:26] so
[01:11:27] Yeah, so
[01:11:31] There you go, I did you know say yes, I think I saw I think Indiana I think also
[01:11:37] Indiana wins the coaching matchup
[01:11:39] Indiana's won
[01:11:41] Four out of five against Milwaukee this year. So, you know
[01:11:46] It is I mean I mean for Doc Rivers
[01:11:49] The if they give it goes seven the road crew only has to go on a road three times
[01:11:55] So he didn't have to blame them right the travel
[01:12:00] And his inability to lead men to
[01:12:04] victory anymore because at this point that's what it is cuz I heard on um, I was watching a couple was it I couple or
[01:12:12] first thing I can't really was Chris we started was like
[01:12:15] No matter what happens in Milwaukee, like they don't like like we don't know if you can fire Doc Rivers my game you can
[01:12:22] I
[01:12:24] Think we're was out of there
[01:12:26] You have shown nothing that lets me know like you deserve me to continue paying you for your services
[01:12:33] I'll pay you to go away
[01:12:35] You took a good team and just say nah, I'm a ruin it the only thing
[01:12:42] Collapse the way that they had a collapse. The only thing that I'll give mid-wipe rivers is
[01:12:47] That you know if you're looking at it through the vein of this is a guy
[01:12:52] who
[01:12:53] It was many moons ago, but he's a he's one of the few active coaches in the league that has a championship
[01:13:00] No, I don't care. You want to make the argument. So if you want to make the argument of
[01:13:05] Let's give him a full season
[01:13:07] You know, I can understand if that's where you're coming from. I gave me 39 games
[01:13:14] 39 games with
[01:13:16] one of the
[01:13:18] generational talent at
[01:13:20] Giannis and a top 75 player in Dane and you gave me a sub 500 season in the east
[01:13:28] That's way worse than the West. I don't need to see anything else
[01:13:33] I'm surprised they let them coach in the playoffs. I let Giannis do it for that
[01:13:40] He's the one that wanted to do that they fired in the first place
[01:13:44] Coach just man put a suit on because Doc Rivers hasn't shown anything that says I should continue to keep these jobs
[01:13:52] I'm really on one the night
[01:13:59] Dame I'm a hold you down dame. Shut up the Weaver State, but it's like no
[01:14:06] We saw who we saw what happened important is like
[01:14:09] S-men open small pocket and tell me and I get it they want these intriguing matchups, but
[01:14:14] Well, I mean to be fair. I mean he never had a Giannis in Portland
[01:14:19] Right now he doesn't have one you know that well, there you go. There's that and then finally, you know
[01:14:26] We got Cleveland in Orlando
[01:14:33] This is toss-up I'm gonna go seven and I'm gonna say Orlando
[01:14:39] Mr. Atlanta cuz a young team, I think the I
[01:14:45] Think their coach is gonna be coaching a year. I think like I said, I think just being just being naive
[01:14:53] but talented and
[01:14:55] The they had a couple of rough years, which so you kind of kind of hardened not like James Harden
[01:15:01] Like hardened like concrete. I
[01:15:04] Just think that that was gonna propel them. I know Cleveland
[01:15:09] They're probably looking at who they got to pay who they got to move
[01:15:12] Do we keep running it back with these small guards and the slim small forward?
[01:15:17] Are we getting the best out of mobility was the Mitchell deal a good deal?
[01:15:21] I think they have a lot of questions like that going on in Cleveland
[01:15:26] Whereas I feel like Orlando inside the building
[01:15:30] Confident what they put on the floor. I think their growth from the last couple of years
[01:15:35] Getting the players in position having the coach everybody lost him in and having a young team
[01:15:39] I think they just don't know any better not to just
[01:15:43] Esquire witness
[01:15:46] I'm going Cleveland in six. I like what you said
[01:15:51] I hope that's the outcome
[01:15:55] So earlier I said, you know, it's a replacement for dog who
[01:16:01] Any Atkinson
[01:16:05] One of your better assistance on these teams that were in the top three in the east or the west interview that guy
[01:16:11] Can you act Kenny Atkinson? Give me Kenny Atkinson?
[01:16:15] Now you can't get another job. I take a new guy. I like I like what you said
[01:16:19] I hope that it plays out that way. I'm pulling for Orlando
[01:16:23] My issue is I think that Orlando in Cleveland are mirrors in a lot of ways
[01:16:30] But I
[01:16:33] Think
[01:16:34] Cleveland has more people. Yeah, they have to score all you know Donovan Mitchell can get you a game
[01:16:41] Garland can get you a game
[01:16:43] Orlando starts and stops with ban caro
[01:16:46] So if Cleveland finds a way to neutralize or slow ban caro down at all
[01:16:52] We might see Orlando score 75 points in one of these games
[01:16:56] You know
[01:16:57] I brought up the other day
[01:16:58] Franz Wagner shooting 18% from three since the all-star break
[01:17:03] Jalen subs has played good enough this season to probably get a first team all defensive vote
[01:17:09] he's also
[01:17:11] Up to three point percentage. So I mean
[01:17:14] Orlando's headed places, you know, but I think
[01:17:18] Not this year. I think the one thing that I do want to see the dynamic that I want to see
[01:17:24] For Cleveland's how many minutes especially late in the game do Jared Allen and Evan Mobley play together
[01:17:33] That's what I'm focused on because one of them got to go
[01:17:38] As far as Donovan Mitchell goes I
[01:17:41] Think he's pretty much as good as gone as well. So the only way so if all I know wins this series
[01:17:47] It's gonna be because of the off-the-court stuff where baby Cleveland has some kind of turmoil
[01:17:52] That we're not seeing I remember Donovan Mitchell had to let everybody know that it's fucking April
[01:17:58] Because they didn't have their stuff together
[01:18:01] The head coach is on the hot seat. So if they don't win this series, he's probably gone
[01:18:06] So so you have a lot of behind-the-scenes things that are probably going on in Cleveland that and their points for game
[01:18:13] We're that far off. I mean you got Cleveland
[01:18:15] Well in Orlando is 110 and a half. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying
[01:18:19] I think this series like we might see some 95 93 in this series or you know, there might be a couple of
[01:18:26] 100 to 97 and it's just gonna be a bounce here or there that's going to determine who wins the game
[01:18:33] Like I said my pops my pops text me other day and he was asking me about
[01:18:38] Like the scoring in the NBA and like what was going on
[01:18:41] I was like, yo
[01:18:42] We talked about this before and if we talked about it on air if we talked about in our in our meeting
[01:18:46] I think Adam silver because you talked about the post all-star game scoring and free throw
[01:18:55] Last night was a perfect example. They were just playing out there. Yeah, so it could be a situation
[01:19:01] I don't think Adam's ever really reached out and said hey
[01:19:05] But I like to think that he was like, okay
[01:19:07] We're just gonna go out here and score 200 points in all-star game
[01:19:11] Somebody there was a free throw attempts drop there was a media member who asked Joe do Mars about it and he kind of
[01:19:21] Gave the little
[01:19:24] You know like the little
[01:19:28] You ask all EPRs, yeah
[01:19:33] These guys just playing great defense out here wink wink, you know that type of thing
[01:19:38] But I might be so pretty sweet
[01:19:40] It might it might be some like you guys want to go out here and not play any defense and score two and just shoot
[01:19:46] shot jack shots up
[01:19:48] cool, I'm gonna go ahead and tell the the referees to
[01:19:52] Let it play. Yeah, and that way when you're scrambling it because I've watched a lot of basketball
[01:19:59] Cuz we watch a lot of it during during the week
[01:20:02] It's been a lot of games where it was this it wasn't very ticky-tack
[01:20:06] They
[01:20:09] 659 more free throws than their opponents the Lakers
[01:20:13] The Lakers lumber to the hole so any kind of like contact is very obvious because they they shoot so many
[01:20:22] They're just around the rim a lot cuz we I saw somebody posted in our group
[01:20:26] they're talking about like who had the most blocks as Ricky when you guys have an accomplish earlier and
[01:20:31] I looked at it as a kid but back in the day
[01:20:34] They were funneling guards
[01:20:37] to the big man
[01:20:38] So there was guys out there like I don't know what the Kimbae McTumble shot per game average was
[01:20:44] But I know he was standing outside of the paint
[01:20:47] Waiting for the guy to get funneled in so you can get the block
[01:20:50] Whereas like now they don't have that many guys coming to the paint to get blocks
[01:20:53] So you got like really work to get your blocks over the zone?
[01:20:56] Like I said, I could imagine that with the style of play that was exhibited during the All-Star game that there was a
[01:21:04] Concerned effort to
[01:21:08] Inspire more
[01:21:12] Less foul calls and more quality basketball and and and that and my X Factor in this series is
[01:21:20] Jonathan Isaac and his defense, you know, are they gonna have him in those kind of I
[01:21:29] Didn't want to say tag team but
[01:21:32] Are they gonna be the Mitchell stoppers basically
[01:21:36] Is that going to be your crew? That's going to line up to try to stop Donovan Mitchell
[01:21:41] Physicality and they
[01:21:43] every year we in the pre in like a lot of
[01:21:47] Appendix will have any kind of conversation that we're having out with the serious predictions
[01:21:50] a lot of them are predicated on this expectation that the
[01:21:55] Referees aren't gonna let you get away with what you got away with in regular season was one of the things that
[01:22:00] Like a rationale of James Harden's lack of success and playoff
[01:22:04] And that's what I've been bringing up about SGA. He's like is he gonna get those calls?
[01:22:11] Every game but but with that being said the refs are different is the matchups are the same. So the coaches
[01:22:19] Okc versus like I said this point we're going Sacramento that those matches for the scenes the refs cycle through
[01:22:26] So unless there's like deliberate guidance coming down say hey look let it be physical and then if it gets out of hand
[01:22:33] You make that call
[01:22:35] You know the landing zone calls like those things that where's like player safety involved
[01:22:39] But if he's like if you're at the rim and you're kind of out of control
[01:22:44] And you're trying to shoot some crazy little baby hook and you get bumped like well
[01:22:48] Wasn't like you were in control at the rim
[01:22:50] You know
[01:22:51] so we're not gonna call it when I can call it every time cuz you're gonna hit your kids is gonna get
[01:22:55] Every time and B's gonna hit get hit every time and be sweet 285 pounds seven for two
[01:22:59] He's gonna get hit because there's no guy in the league that can guard him straight up
[01:23:03] So he's gonna get hit by the 611 got his garden or the 69 got every rose it rotates onto him
[01:23:09] But like other rest gonna give him 22 free throws
[01:23:13] But you know, but before we get out of here
[01:23:16] Let me mark myself safe
[01:23:20] From Scott Foster versus Chris Paul
[01:23:23] You know, we don't have to hear that this year so
[01:23:26] bad
[01:23:28] What an awful move by an NBA organization that was such a useless
[01:23:35] transaction
[01:23:37] Mm-hmm. See and I wrote I wrote it down. I had another one written down
[01:23:41] I think I wrote it down the other day and I want to bring it up and Orlando might be speaking of Orlando
[01:23:46] They might be a good spot for clay Thompson next year
[01:23:49] Next year, you know
[01:23:51] Was my other useless move. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's like neither one of those moves needed to happen. Mm-hmm
[01:23:59] Yeah, I think gonna say let's go do something crazy. I try to bring them all back
[01:24:04] Well, that's better he was like I can't imagine myself
[01:24:09] Not here with those two guys. Well, Alexa now man a lot of Taylor Swift crass castles crumbling then
[01:24:16] Yeah
[01:24:18] You know it is what it is. It's over with
[01:24:22] Explain what?
[01:24:24] Explain what what it is what it is?
[01:24:28] You know, but uh, yeah like I think Orlando would actually be a good spot for clay but
[01:24:35] Obviously they're not a contender. So he's probably gonna want to go somewhere that
[01:24:39] He has a chance to win a championship
[01:24:41] you know
[01:24:42] But I think that was you want to play where he can play against Golden State once or twice a year or four times
[01:24:48] A year does he want to go to I won't say Phoenix cuz there's so much money once you paid
[01:24:52] No, I can't explain it on some signings were ridiculous. We can't we just can't oh
[01:24:58] He's saying explain why because it doesn't fit the way Chris Paul doesn't fit the way that
[01:25:03] Golden State plays basketball because you didn't win is just isn't an NBA player at this point
[01:25:09] Then what he was ineffective
[01:25:11] But anytime he looks at the rim the defense does nothing to stop it. They probably
[01:25:18] Whoo down my answer
[01:25:22] How dare you it just didn't fit Wow
[01:25:28] It just it just didn't fit it's it's equivalent imagine
[01:25:33] Imagine Mike Conley jr. Going to Dallas right now
[01:25:36] Mike Conley jr. Is a good point guard
[01:25:38] But where does he fit if you put him on the Dallas roster with Kyrie and Luca?
[01:25:44] Like you can be a good player and not fit where you go
[01:25:47] Yes
[01:25:48] Yeah, I don't know. I thought for sure that
[01:25:52] the
[01:25:53] The Warriors were gonna trade Chris Paul midseason or something, you know, I thought that was coming but
[01:26:00] You know, I guess they really tried to work it out
[01:26:03] You know Draymond at this stage, you know to Mike's point
[01:26:08] Send them back home man. You don't say let that do turn around the Pistons
[01:26:12] Go home and be the mentor because I mean they already got the dude in the locker room punching people in the tunnel
[01:26:20] No fit right in there and
[01:26:22] Clay to the books that could be good. But obviously that doesn't solve their defensive issues
[01:26:27] Because he's not the defender that he used to be
[01:26:33] That could work that could work that could work
[01:26:35] You know is a Billy Donovan gonna be with the Bulls when we start the
[01:26:41] 2024 25 season
[01:26:44] You know what?
[01:26:46] You know, this man didn't screw Bret Hart Brett screwed Brett, you know CP three. I
[01:26:53] I don't know. I've always been in the camp of I don't even know if I
[01:27:00] Don't think putting Chris Paul in the Lakers automatically means title
[01:27:05] Like I know that everybody seems to think that if that trade had went down
[01:27:09] The Lakers were gonna win two more titles. I just don't know I just don't know
[01:27:16] He fits places, you know, like I said, I felt that he should have got MVP consideration the year that he was in OKC
[01:27:25] You know, but he just didn't he doesn't score enough and after Steve Nash got those MVP's
[01:27:33] And didn't build upon that
[01:27:36] It's tough for these little dudes that don't score a lot
[01:27:39] So, you know
[01:27:41] So I mean Chris Paul at this stage. I mean he's two years three years younger than me
[01:27:47] So yeah, he probably doesn't fit at this point in stage in his career
[01:27:53] But but I mean at the very least like I like to see coach Chris Paul, baby
[01:28:00] We'll see, I know we'll see you know, but yo he is mr. Logical
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[01:28:33] Here fell draft previews we're gonna be talking about the WNBA and their contract situations
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