LETTING THEM PLAY

[00:00:00] It is Tuesday, you know what that means but I ain't gonna say it out loud this is a PG

[00:00:10] show.

[00:00:11] But you know what Tuesday it is, it's my favorite Tuesday.

[00:00:15] Favorite day of the week if you know what I mean.

[00:00:20] Yes, you are now listening to the sound of Sports Reports As Ordered.

[00:00:29] And tonight we are two days away the NFL draft is upon us.

[00:00:36] What rumors are out there?

[00:00:38] What do we believe?

[00:00:39] What's gonna happen?

[00:00:40] I'm excited.

[00:00:41] The NBA playoffs.

[00:00:42] When all else fails just find a referee to blame.

[00:00:51] Griff Paul ain't even here and we're still talking about the rep.

[00:00:57] Wow!

[00:00:58] And of course you know we gonna get this thing started with get it off my chest.

[00:01:05] So with me I have a one and only even kill of VA representing New Jibros.

[00:01:17] Your...

[00:01:18] At least that he was born down in Texas.

[00:01:22] Dedicated father, dedicated veteran.

[00:01:25] He is absolutely Mr. Logic.

[00:01:30] And this serves as your reminder do not bring feelings to a fat fight.

[00:01:36] Don't do it.

[00:01:37] And then you got me.

[00:01:40] I if you will, let's be grammatically correct.

[00:01:44] It's I your resident.

[00:01:47] An orthodox statistician going left so much you thought I was South Paul.

[00:01:53] And it's all incoming but I'm moving out the way unlike Devin Haney.

[00:02:00] So sport reports is on this here.

[00:02:02] Let's get this thing started.

[00:02:05] Yeah, Devin Haney man like you know I was telling people the other day like I learned

[00:02:11] in the Loma Chanco fight he doesn't have a plan B like he just does what he does.

[00:02:18] Like that's the thing about fighters like Floyd Mayweather like some people might call

[00:02:21] it boring or whatever but like he takes a few rounds to kind of download your script

[00:02:28] or whatever.

[00:02:29] Canelo's been doing that lately Crawford does that and then come round five or six.

[00:02:35] They just break you apart.

[00:02:37] You know Haney just does what he does.

[00:02:40] So when Garcia was hitting them and doing all these things, he got knocked down and I

[00:02:45] think the pride took over and he was just like, No, I'm coming back.

[00:02:51] Yeah, he did it.

[00:02:55] Devin Haney's game plan was I don't think he had the power to compete with Garcia.

[00:03:03] I thought he was a lot smaller than Ryan.

[00:03:07] Then I saw a couple of like face offs and I'm like, OK, maybe he's about the same height.

[00:03:11] I believe someone I was talking to someone I can remember they said, Oh yeah, Haney's

[00:03:15] like 5'11".

[00:03:16] I was like really?

[00:03:17] I thought he was shorter than that.

[00:03:19] And that's why I need somebody that really follows boxing.

[00:03:22] I need to hit up my guy.

[00:03:24] Shout out to Kerry Doja, AKA Psycho Sid.

[00:03:27] That's my box and a fish.

[00:03:28] I know I need people to explain this to me because I saw a bunch of people talking about

[00:03:33] how since Ryan Garcia didn't meet the weight and he was three pounds over, he had an advantage.

[00:03:41] But when I was looking at the fight, I was like, but Haney's like 160 right now.

[00:03:45] Like, like.

[00:03:46] Yeah, but I think with Ryan.

[00:03:49] That's three and a half pounds.

[00:03:53] It might have given because you sent me a picture to take Davis fight and how he just looks

[00:03:58] smaller.

[00:03:59] Right?

[00:04:00] I think it might have just, it might have just given him an advantage.

[00:04:03] Like, you know what?

[00:04:04] I don't care that I don't make 140.

[00:04:09] Like I'll give you an example of like my somebody played football in the eighth

[00:04:11] grade year.

[00:04:12] Like he had to be under like 145.

[00:04:14] Right.

[00:04:15] It was like 160.

[00:04:16] You like throughout the summer.

[00:04:18] He just got tall.

[00:04:19] Like five, nine, five, 10, you know, 13 year old.

[00:04:22] Right.

[00:04:23] But and it was stressful at practice in August when he was trying to like get down and make

[00:04:29] weight so he can run the ball or play quarterback, whatever the case may be.

[00:04:33] But then one day after practice, he was like, yo, you know what?

[00:04:35] I don't care.

[00:04:36] I just want to play football.

[00:04:38] I don't care about the weight.

[00:04:40] I just want to play football.

[00:04:42] And from that moment I calm down because now I'm not stressing him about the weight.

[00:04:48] Coach is calm down because they're not stressing him about the weight.

[00:04:51] They're like, okay, cool.

[00:04:52] We'll just have to get one of these other kids that's going to make weight to run the ball.

[00:04:56] And then he taught that kid how to hit the hole and everything else.

[00:04:59] So he went from being a stressed potential quarterback running back to a leader.

[00:05:06] And then I went from cool.

[00:05:08] You want to get some to eat after practice?

[00:05:10] Because we were swing by Wawa.

[00:05:12] So like it just made our whole it made our day much easier and less stressful.

[00:05:19] And then so I think that's what happened.

[00:05:21] Right?

[00:05:22] So like, you know what?

[00:05:23] I'm not going to make 140.

[00:05:24] I'm just going to be in a mini leg.

[00:05:25] Right.

[00:05:26] That's what throws me off because I know that these guys, you know, they get back on their

[00:05:34] regular life after the weigh-in or whatever.

[00:05:37] And like, I think Haney, they said he was like close to 160 during the fight.

[00:05:43] And that's why, like I said that I understand that the three pounds is an advantage.

[00:05:48] But I think Haney was still the bigger dude though.

[00:05:50] So that's why it just threw me off a little.

[00:05:52] I read something that Ryan Garcia was drinking beer.

[00:05:56] He was he drank beer at the weigh-in.

[00:06:00] Like if I would have known that, I probably would have been a little bit more.

[00:06:09] I just like the antics.

[00:06:11] Right.

[00:06:12] All the pre-social media stuff.

[00:06:14] Like I don't know who coordinated that.

[00:06:17] I just thought it was kind of Bush League and juvenile.

[00:06:19] But other than that, it was a good fight.

[00:06:21] Like I had a long weekend because I went to Philly.

[00:06:25] So we were gambling in the Philadelphia casino Friday night.

[00:06:30] I left there like midnight.

[00:06:31] I got home like close to one.

[00:06:35] I got up like six because my middle son had a voice acting session and at NYU.

[00:06:45] So we got up, got dressed, caught the train to the city.

[00:06:50] When the session was closed, it just was like NYU students and him.

[00:06:55] So then I just ended up walking around the city with a friend of mine.

[00:06:59] So me and we just walked around the city.

[00:07:01] And so I walked, I'm like, oh, we're close to Manhattan Bridge.

[00:07:05] I'm like, oh, Pierce 17 is on here.

[00:07:08] Let's walk here.

[00:07:09] Ended up walking like five total miles that day.

[00:07:13] So then I got back and I'm like, oh, the fight's tonight.

[00:07:16] So the fight came on for me like midnight.

[00:07:18] I am dead tired.

[00:07:20] I had been up all day, but I'm like, you know what?

[00:07:23] I'll watch this fight maybe to end quick.

[00:07:26] And then it got good.

[00:07:27] And I'm sitting there looking at the time like it is 1225.

[00:07:31] I am dead tired.

[00:07:33] My ankles are hurting.

[00:07:34] I'm like, I'm watching this fight.

[00:07:36] And I'm glad because it was a couple of times I was like, you know what?

[00:07:38] I think Haney's got it.

[00:07:40] I was going to lean over and then he caught him and he dropped the motorcycle.

[00:07:44] Now I got to watch the rest of them.

[00:07:46] Then I got to watch the next round.

[00:07:48] And then it just kept going.

[00:07:49] So it was a good fight.

[00:07:51] Shout out to Boxman for making a good fight.

[00:07:55] Just don't force it.

[00:07:56] Now this man said, let's run it back tank.

[00:08:02] Don't run the tank fight.

[00:08:03] Well, take got a big one coming up soon.

[00:08:05] He's fighting Frank Martin in June.

[00:08:07] So that's going to be a big one.

[00:08:09] Yeah. Now take and get that fight.

[00:08:11] Now maybe Haney Shakur, maybe you get that fight.

[00:08:14] Maybe Haney gets his bounce back.

[00:08:16] Maybe Shakur Garcia.

[00:08:18] Did you see Garcia's dad in the hallway cussing at Eddie Hearn?

[00:08:22] Yeah.

[00:08:23] The British promoter.

[00:08:24] Then he was like bones in his.

[00:08:26] And then Ryan's dad was like, work?

[00:08:30] He came back like the tone switched so quick.

[00:08:33] So it was like, maybe y'all said you get these three fights this year.

[00:08:37] Now you're rolling.

[00:08:39] All right.

[00:08:40] Now you're rolling.

[00:08:41] I don't want to get closer to our super card idea

[00:08:44] that we talked about last year.

[00:08:46] Get everybody on it.

[00:08:48] Yeah.

[00:08:49] Make it huge.

[00:08:50] Yeah.

[00:08:51] Make it to Pennsylvania.

[00:08:53] People will spend $169 if you had a wilder Joshua

[00:09:00] undercard, Garcia tank main event.

[00:09:04] Like, I mean, if you just kind of just.

[00:09:06] Match, you know, just put it all out there.

[00:09:09] 170.

[00:09:10] And the box in ring.

[00:09:13] And Vegas.

[00:09:14] Yeah.

[00:09:15] But yeah, get it off my chest.

[00:09:17] Short and sweet.

[00:09:18] Like I always say, I know I always come across as upset,

[00:09:24] but it doesn't have to be negative.

[00:09:26] It doesn't have to be positive.

[00:09:28] Sometimes it can just be.

[00:09:30] So tonight as I'm sitting here watching

[00:09:33] Phoenix get bent over again, I was sitting here thinking

[00:09:37] about the Clippers and the Madams.

[00:09:39] And you know how everybody overreacts to one game

[00:09:43] in a series and now the Mavs are dead.

[00:09:46] But I'm going to overreact for a second,

[00:09:49] but in a different way because I saw that while Leonard is

[00:09:53] playing tonight, you know, thank goodness.

[00:09:55] Always great.

[00:09:56] Happy to have a great player back.

[00:09:58] But the way that I'm looking at this thing

[00:10:01] because I'm too five, you know, like somebody on that Clippers

[00:10:05] team, whether it's Kawai or not is going to miss some time

[00:10:10] in the place, especially if they get past a series.

[00:10:13] Somebody's going to miss a game somewhere down the road.

[00:10:17] So if I'm the Clippers, I make Dallas make me play Kawai.

[00:10:21] What I mean by that is you got to win a game.

[00:10:25] So if I come out and go up 2-0 tonight,

[00:10:28] game three in Dallas, Kawai sitting again.

[00:10:32] You know, saying until you beat me,

[00:10:34] if you go if you cut it to 2-1, now I'm going to bring Kawai

[00:10:37] back for game four.

[00:10:38] If I go up 3-0, I don't even need Kawai

[00:10:41] for this series potential.

[00:10:43] So I'm going to get him all the rest that he needs

[00:10:45] off of these injections.

[00:10:47] It's just a couple of days.

[00:10:49] Yeah, like so, you know, just something

[00:10:51] I was thinking about as I saw,

[00:10:53] because I know Max, he was questionable last night

[00:10:56] with the illness, you know,

[00:10:58] Embiid is always questionable,

[00:11:00] you know whether it's his knees or his heart.

[00:11:02] So, you know, I just figured that was with Kawai,

[00:11:06] we just know how this story plays out.

[00:11:09] So try to get him as much rest as possible

[00:11:12] if you're a fan of little management.

[00:11:16] So that's what I wanted to get off my chest.

[00:11:19] Just short and sweet.

[00:11:20] Short and sweet.

[00:11:22] Mine's going to be short and sweet as well.

[00:11:23] I'm going to move my mic to the side

[00:11:25] so I can show everybody.

[00:11:30] Matt Ryan.

[00:11:31] I'm so icy.

[00:11:34] Maddie Ice has officially retired

[00:11:36] as an Atlanta Falcons on a one day contract.

[00:11:40] Officially retired 15 years in the league,

[00:11:44] 14 with the Falcons, literally his first pass in NFL,

[00:11:48] first game, first snap touchdown, Michael Jenkins.

[00:11:53] I was, I was weird at a pick

[00:11:56] because he was a Boston college guy from Philadelphia.

[00:12:00] I was a Gene Tech fan.

[00:12:01] Boston College had beaten Virginia Tech that year before

[00:12:06] on a crazy comeback pass across the field.

[00:12:09] It was nuts and it kind of like ruined

[00:12:12] Virginia Tech's chances at a better bowl.

[00:12:15] So I was like, yeah, I can't believe we drafted this guy,

[00:12:18] third overall, and then he proceeds to go out

[00:12:21] and throw for 62,000 yards, 381 touchdowns,

[00:12:24] 124 career wins, 2016 MVP.

[00:12:28] Everyone's going to talk about the 28 to three

[00:12:31] and the blown lead and everything else,

[00:12:34] but then came back the next year,

[00:12:37] went back to the playoffs, beat the Rams at home,

[00:12:40] and then the following season followed that up

[00:12:42] with a 30, he went 38 and seven touchdown

[00:12:46] interception ratio and his MVP year,

[00:12:48] two years later, 35 and seven.

[00:12:51] So it wasn't a flu gear.

[00:12:53] Shanahan was already coaching the 49er,

[00:12:55] so you can't say it's because of Shanahan.

[00:12:58] Constant professional was not putting the best situation

[00:13:02] by Dimitroff and Blank and all these other guys

[00:13:05] who are in the front office at Atlanta.

[00:13:08] Shout out to Arthur Smith, he tried the one year,

[00:13:11] but it just, it didn't work.

[00:13:13] He went to Indy did his thing,

[00:13:15] but Matt Ryan is probably the,

[00:13:19] I know I love Vic, shout out Vic hometown hero.

[00:13:22] So he has a different place in my Thalcans heart

[00:13:27] because I literally was in high school

[00:13:30] with Vic walking the same hallways,

[00:13:33] but Matt Ryan, he changed how people view Atlanta

[00:13:38] Thalcans football.

[00:13:39] I know it's up and down and everything else,

[00:13:40] but I know a lot of organizations that would trade

[00:13:44] the run that Matt Ryan had for the guy

[00:13:49] that they had in place for six, seven, eight, 10 years.

[00:13:52] There's been a lot of teams

[00:13:53] that didn't make championship games.

[00:13:55] It's been a lot of turnover to quarterback positions.

[00:13:58] The constant professional, he was always there 14 years.

[00:14:03] So shout out to Matt Ryan, Atlanta Thalcans.

[00:14:08] Retired number two, do not give it to anybody this year.

[00:14:11] Do not give it to anybody next year.

[00:14:13] Retire it soon.

[00:14:15] I don't want you handing this number out

[00:14:17] and no one wears two anymore for the Atlanta Thalcans.

[00:14:20] Shout out Matt Ryan, thank you very much.

[00:14:25] So are you saying that Matt Ryan contributed

[00:14:27] to a winning culture?

[00:14:30] Absolutely, absolutely.

[00:14:33] But yeah, that play that you talk about

[00:14:36] against Virginia Tech, that was the play

[00:14:40] that made me become a Matt Ryan fan.

[00:14:43] I was watching that game live Thursday night football

[00:14:46] on ESPN, Boston College.

[00:14:48] Yeah Thursday night football ESPN used to be the move.

[00:14:51] Yes, yo.

[00:14:53] They were number two or number three in the polls.

[00:14:56] So Boston College was put on the map

[00:14:59] and we'd heard from them since.

[00:15:02] But that was the play I used to tell everybody,

[00:15:05] Matt Ryan's my favorite quarterback.

[00:15:07] And that was why, because of that play

[00:15:10] against Virginia Tech coming through into clutch.

[00:15:12] In Blacksburg, so it's just one of those things.

[00:15:16] Back across the field, everything that he started

[00:15:21] to show us in the league is like,

[00:15:23] because we talk about,

[00:15:24] because we're gonna roll right into the draft here

[00:15:26] shortly, so you're gonna talk about,

[00:15:28] hey, what do I expect out of a quarterback?

[00:15:31] And I know people use certain benchmark quarterbacks

[00:15:35] as like, or these greatest quarterbacks

[00:15:37] as the benchmark for everybody else.

[00:15:39] It's not realistic.

[00:15:41] I don't think there's gonna be any,

[00:15:43] that many guys that make it to 10 super goals.

[00:15:46] I don't think there's probably gonna be another guy

[00:15:48] like Mahonz who sits for a year

[00:15:50] and then goes to 6th straight ASU championship games.

[00:15:53] It probably won't be another Montana,

[00:15:55] a guy like Brad Shaw that just, it just agree.

[00:15:58] Like certain guys just have a different impact on football.

[00:16:04] And we're gonna talk about these,

[00:16:05] like as we talked about these guys in the draft,

[00:16:08] I need you to be good and I need you to be good enough

[00:16:13] so where we can keep the team together.

[00:16:16] Cause a lot of times that's what it comes,

[00:16:17] if Mac Jones plays better football,

[00:16:19] Bill Belichick doesn't lose his job in New England.

[00:16:23] Like if he just makes better plays

[00:16:25] in the moments when it's time to make plays,

[00:16:28] cause you gotta think about like, for instance,

[00:16:30] New England is draft in third.

[00:16:33] There was a game against Miami.

[00:16:35] They were down eight.

[00:16:38] If Mac can make a couple more plays

[00:16:41] and make that drive flow,

[00:16:44] they don't have to get a tip pass

[00:16:47] that got tipped to an offensive lineman

[00:16:49] and he's trying to fight to get a fourth down,

[00:16:51] but first, you know, if you hit the other route,

[00:16:55] like if they had another guy who was on the same page

[00:16:58] with Mac Jones, whether it's Juju

[00:17:01] or what are these other guys that they had,

[00:17:03] if they're on the same page now,

[00:17:05] the ball is moving first down, get the touchdown,

[00:17:09] you get momentum.

[00:17:10] He doesn't throw the pass short in Germany.

[00:17:14] See, isn't it?

[00:17:16] Little things like that,

[00:17:17] because if you play well in your position,

[00:17:20] you can keep your staff together.

[00:17:23] Like as far as like your course

[00:17:24] after your head coach, GM, people like that.

[00:17:26] But if you play poorly, someone's gotta go.

[00:17:29] And normally it's the coach and the GM

[00:17:31] which can completely disrupt your entire learning process.

[00:17:36] And see, and that's where I struggle with fans

[00:17:38] because you know, you gotta be loyal to your logic

[00:17:43] so that your logic is loyal to you.

[00:17:45] Absolutely.

[00:17:46] Because a lot of people are talking about,

[00:17:48] you know, well, we can't judge Bryce Young

[00:17:51] because he doesn't have any help

[00:17:53] or this quarterback, they didn't build around him.

[00:17:58] So therefore we don't know what he's truly capable of.

[00:18:01] And I'm sitting there and I'm thinking,

[00:18:03] what did New England put anything around Matt Jones?

[00:18:06] I mean, they had the great defenses

[00:18:08] because that's what they do.

[00:18:10] But looking at their, you know, say why receiver room.

[00:18:13] When they had a defensive court,

[00:18:16] then when they had two ex-patriot coaches

[00:18:21] that just lost their head coaching jobs,

[00:18:23] come back to New England

[00:18:25] and the defensive coordinator became

[00:18:27] the offensive coordinator

[00:18:29] and the special teams coach that just lost his job

[00:18:32] in New York became like the secondary offensive coordinator.

[00:18:36] You knew then that that was not gonna be a good move.

[00:18:39] They should have just gone out

[00:18:40] and gotten an offensive coordinator

[00:18:43] from one of these high power college offenses

[00:18:47] and let the special team coach do what he does

[00:18:50] and defensive coach do what he does.

[00:18:52] Yeah, I think they gave up on him too early

[00:18:55] not saying that he was gonna become a pro bowler

[00:18:57] or anything like that.

[00:18:59] But this is the stuff that we have to think about

[00:19:03] when we look at the NFL draft

[00:19:04] because normally, you know, these young quarterbacks

[00:19:09] are gonna go to bad teams that didn't make a playoff

[00:19:12] or, you know, that are single digit wins, you know?

[00:19:16] So we have to factor that in

[00:19:18] what franchise are they gonna go to for one, for two?

[00:19:21] What is that franchise's track record

[00:19:24] of surrounding quarterbacks with talent

[00:19:27] or else it's just gonna be the same history

[00:19:29] repeating itself?

[00:19:30] So like when I look at somebody like-

[00:19:32] Yeah, that's chaos.

[00:19:33] So when I look at somebody like JJ McCarthy, for example,

[00:19:36] everybody talks about how he's a winner, you know?

[00:19:40] He only lost one game in college.

[00:19:41] He threw two pick sixes in that game

[00:19:43] that people forget about, but it happened, you know?

[00:19:48] If he gets drafted by say Washington at number two.

[00:19:54] Cool.

[00:19:55] Like what has Washington done?

[00:19:57] Now, granted, new GM and everything in place,

[00:20:00] but what has Washington done to show

[00:20:04] that they support their quarterbacks?

[00:20:05] This is the first time we're seeing it from Chicago

[00:20:09] where Chicago's putting weapons all around the place.

[00:20:12] Whereas a lot of us say-

[00:20:14] I think Washington has weapons.

[00:20:16] I think the issue with Washington was,

[00:20:19] yes, Gary Terry, Samuel, who's your third wide receiver?

[00:20:25] Johan Dotson.

[00:20:26] Johan Dotson.

[00:20:27] You just had a coach that I didn't feel

[00:20:33] was gonna maximize what they could provide on the field.

[00:20:37] Samuel was leading the NFL in yards for a good chunk of the

[00:20:40] year, it just didn't translate to wins.

[00:20:43] Well, there's probably once or twice in the last,

[00:20:47] I'll call it 10 to 12 years

[00:20:50] that I feel Washington had either a healthy offensive line

[00:20:57] or the quarterback wasn't fighting for his life.

[00:21:01] So that's what I mean.

[00:21:02] So even outside of the weapons,

[00:21:04] you still need the protection as well,

[00:21:06] which is why-

[00:21:08] Is that coaching or is that players?

[00:21:11] It could be both.

[00:21:12] It could be both.

[00:21:13] It could just be a bad combination

[00:21:14] that turns into disaster.

[00:21:17] Like for example, we talk about Russell Wilson

[00:21:19] and Justin Fields.

[00:21:20] And you pointed out like,

[00:21:22] hey, he's do told onto the ball though.

[00:21:24] So the offensive line could be decent,

[00:21:30] but if he's going to hold the ball for an extra second

[00:21:32] and a half.

[00:21:33] Yeah, you don't have four and a half seconds.

[00:21:35] Right.

[00:21:35] So that could be a part of it too.

[00:21:37] But I also know that Washington lost Trent Williams

[00:21:42] with that whole ordeal.

[00:21:43] And I just feel ever since then

[00:21:45] the offensive line just hasn't looked good.

[00:21:48] But besides the fact that they've been playing

[00:21:51] young quarterbacks and all this and all that

[00:21:53] like just hasn't looked good.

[00:21:55] So that's why I'm interested at number two.

[00:21:58] You know, do you go Jaden Daniels

[00:22:00] from the standpoint of he'll get out of the pocket?

[00:22:05] Like is he gonna,

[00:22:06] one, is he gonna hold the ball too long

[00:22:08] because he can't run?

[00:22:10] Two, is he gonna run

[00:22:12] or be able to keep plays alive

[00:22:14] that makes the line look better

[00:22:16] in a way that people thought Justin Fields would?

[00:22:20] I think with him at two,

[00:22:25] I like that because he is a,

[00:22:29] he's just a playmaker.

[00:22:30] Not necessarily because he can run.

[00:22:33] He's just that he's seasoned.

[00:22:36] He was in college for a long time

[00:22:39] and he got better every year.

[00:22:41] And I know I keep beating his horse

[00:22:43] and I beat this horse until it wakes up.

[00:22:46] The way he responded to his teammates,

[00:22:50] his brothers, treating him when he was packing up his locker

[00:22:54] in the Arizona State.

[00:22:56] I haven't heard a single pundit bring up

[00:22:58] like the level of maturity you have to have

[00:23:02] to just simply pack up your stuff

[00:23:05] when all the people who used to be your boys

[00:23:10] are literally recording you,

[00:23:12] they trashed your stuff,

[00:23:14] now they're verbally accosting you

[00:23:16] and for him to have like the wearable and the maturity

[00:23:20] that was like three years ago.

[00:23:21] I think that was like pre,

[00:23:22] it might've been like the COVID year or just after that.

[00:23:27] So for him to have that sense of maturity,

[00:23:30] that sense of self,

[00:23:31] that that groundedness of where he's like,

[00:23:33] you know what?

[00:23:35] This is the reason why I'm not staying here

[00:23:38] and just simply packing stuff up

[00:23:41] and then go to LSU and get better every year

[00:23:44] to the point where he had a better year than Joe Burrow had

[00:23:47] when Joe Burrow won the Heisman,

[00:23:49] as far as like big plays and things like that.

[00:23:51] Yeah, the wins and losses come and go,

[00:23:53] their defense was not great,

[00:23:55] but I just feel like when you have that playmaker,

[00:24:01] the growth, the size is one thing.

[00:24:04] You give him eight or 12 protein shakes a week,

[00:24:08] some steaks, maybe some gumbo.

[00:24:11] Get him something, get him to DC Soul Food.

[00:24:14] I'll turn him into Zion.

[00:24:16] Not me, put eight to 12 more pounds on him.

[00:24:20] The similar to Lamar Jackson.

[00:24:21] Lamar Jackson, his body in college this year,

[00:24:26] he won the Heisman in a year after that,

[00:24:28] compared to how he looks now.

[00:24:31] He still plays the same.

[00:24:33] He's just a little bigger.

[00:24:35] It's gonna come in time.

[00:24:36] We look at like we'll go back,

[00:24:37] we'll look at Giannis.

[00:24:40] Still plays the same.

[00:24:41] He's just a little bigger.

[00:24:42] It was great.

[00:24:43] Yeah, so you'll have the opportunity to make a big.

[00:24:46] I think it's like sometimes,

[00:24:51] I mean, it's like electricity.

[00:24:52] Electricity takes the path of least resistance.

[00:24:56] You've got the number one quarterback going to Chicago.

[00:25:01] You need a quarterback in Washington.

[00:25:04] Well according to the Heisman and all the awards

[00:25:06] that you get, he is the best available quarterback

[00:25:10] after Caleb Williams.

[00:25:12] Just take it.

[00:25:12] So New England is interesting

[00:25:15] because they've been the talk of all trade rumors.

[00:25:18] Even though when I from the Patriots look outside

[00:25:22] or outside in, the Patriots need a quarterback too.

[00:25:28] Because they got rid of Matt Jones.

[00:25:31] They brought back Jacoby Brasette

[00:25:33] and they have my guy Billy Zappie.

[00:25:37] So you would think that they want a quarterback

[00:25:40] or that they would need a quarterback.

[00:25:42] They got a new head coach.

[00:25:45] But they have a Bill Belichick defensive minded

[00:25:48] protégé head coach.

[00:25:49] Who might wanna start Jacoby Brasette

[00:25:51] and go down and eat.

[00:25:56] He'll treat like for instance,

[00:25:58] like a hypothetical rumor we're talking about.

[00:26:01] So my hypothetical is Minnesota gives them 11, 23,

[00:26:11] a third and a one next year to go from 11 to three.

[00:26:18] Now if I'm New England, you give me 11.

[00:26:24] I can still get Michael Pinnick Jr.

[00:26:27] I'm still in play.

[00:26:31] Cause if you give me 11 to 23,

[00:26:35] I'm still in play for-

[00:26:37] You didn't get something at 11 and get Bo Nicks later.

[00:26:40] Or I can take 11 and move back up to six

[00:26:47] and get McCarthy, but I still got 23.

[00:26:50] So I think the draft gets interesting around LA,

[00:26:55] around the chargers.

[00:26:58] Yeah, because I feel like if Arizona doesn't trade out,

[00:27:05] well that's what I was about to say.

[00:27:06] I think with Arizona, you just take Marvin Harrison

[00:27:08] or neighbors because Calamari needs a new target.

[00:27:14] You lost Rondale Moore, you lost Hollywood Brown.

[00:27:18] The Cardinals need a receiver.

[00:27:20] Like the Andre Hopkins isn't there anymore.

[00:27:23] If you're going to bribe this Calamari thing out,

[00:27:26] you need to give him a weapon.

[00:27:27] You need to give him a weapon.

[00:27:29] All right, you're the Arizona GM.

[00:27:33] You're sitting at four.

[00:27:35] I'm the Broncos GM.

[00:27:37] Drake May goes, no, JJ McCarthy goes third.

[00:27:42] Okay.

[00:27:42] New England goes bananas, they take JJ at third.

[00:27:44] Drake may sit in the air four.

[00:27:47] Denver calls.

[00:27:49] What do you want?

[00:27:51] You're the Arizona, I'm at 12.

[00:27:54] You're the Arizona GM.

[00:27:57] You're sitting at four.

[00:27:58] JJ went third, Drake may is out there.

[00:28:01] Denver just calls you.

[00:28:02] What do you want from him?

[00:28:05] I want the world.

[00:28:07] Because the Cardinals are-

[00:28:10] Fuck hold on, excuse my language.

[00:28:11] Denver has anything to give you.

[00:28:13] Well that's true too.

[00:28:14] But Arizona's not that dissimilar.

[00:28:17] Maybe it's the Raiders then.

[00:28:19] But Arizona's not that-

[00:28:21] You want two first, three firsts, two twos, two ones?

[00:28:27] I think it would have to start with two firsts at least.

[00:28:30] So give me your, so if I'm the Raiders,

[00:28:32] the Raiders call you your Arizona sitting at four.

[00:28:35] Not in division, not your conference.

[00:28:38] You're completely like whatever you wanna do, dawg.

[00:28:41] 13 might be too far back though

[00:28:43] because as we map this out, so this is the problem.

[00:28:47] If the Cardinals wanna receive it.

[00:28:50] Okay.

[00:28:51] So let's map this out.

[00:28:52] So you got Marvin Harrison available right there.

[00:28:55] Correct.

[00:28:56] Somebody's gonna grab him.

[00:28:57] Like if you don't grab him,

[00:28:58] maybe LA grabs him at five to replace Keenan Allen.

[00:29:03] You would have to.

[00:29:04] And they lost Mike Williams as well.

[00:29:08] Maybe the Giants, they're in some rumors

[00:29:11] about trying to potentially get Drake May as well.

[00:29:14] I don't know if I believe it,

[00:29:15] but that's a rumor that I saw today.

[00:29:18] But if you're the Giants, if Marvin Harrison's not there,

[00:29:23] you might go neighbors, you know?

[00:29:26] Or if Marvin Harrison is there,

[00:29:27] you probably go Marvin Harrison.

[00:29:29] Tennessee, I feel comfortable thinking

[00:29:31] that they're gonna take an offensive lineman.

[00:29:33] Yep.

[00:29:35] I think Atlanta just me thinking,

[00:29:38] Atlanta probably goes Dallas Turner.

[00:29:41] Everyone's saying that.

[00:29:43] But I haven't.

[00:29:48] Everyone's saying that.

[00:29:49] I think it's easy.

[00:29:51] Well, originally I was gonna say receiver,

[00:29:53] but they picked up Mooney, they picked up Rondale Moore,

[00:29:57] they still have Drake London, they still have Kyle Pitts.

[00:30:00] There ain't that much football to go around

[00:30:02] because you still got handed off the Bijan and Algiers

[00:30:04] as well.

[00:30:05] So from that standpoint,

[00:30:07] so like I think the Falcons line is pretty good

[00:30:11] from what I remember.

[00:30:14] They're pretty solid.

[00:30:15] They can always be better.

[00:30:16] The guard, they have one good guard,

[00:30:19] the tackle, the right tackle is mid at best.

[00:30:23] Yeah.

[00:30:24] But I don't think there's a right tackle you take an eight.

[00:30:26] Yeah.

[00:30:26] It's probably too high to go corner

[00:30:28] even though I think that the Falcons could use a corner.

[00:30:31] It's probably too high to go corner there.

[00:30:34] So if anything, maybe Atlanta could trade back, you know?

[00:30:38] But if you go edge, because we've seen it before,

[00:30:41] we think about the Patriots giant Super Bowl.

[00:30:45] If you go edge and you could put pressure on the quarterback,

[00:30:50] your corners, you basically cut their responsibility

[00:30:55] down by a second.

[00:30:57] So now they don't have to cover for four and a half seconds

[00:31:00] because they got time where you have to spot.

[00:31:03] Randy Moss should have had 150 yards receiving

[00:31:07] in that Super Bowl and they should have been 19-0.

[00:31:09] But the fact that they were running six

[00:31:11] and seven defensive linemen at time,

[00:31:13] Brady was like, nothing to do.

[00:31:14] So if Atlanta decides to do that,

[00:31:16] I'm just thinking like, if you do that,

[00:31:18] you got to go all out.

[00:31:19] But then I get Chicago, Ruma Duce had nine.

[00:31:22] Well, that's what I was about to say.

[00:31:23] So a Duce is going to go,

[00:31:25] so if you're the Cardinals

[00:31:26] and you trade with the Raiders to get to 13,

[00:31:29] you're probably going to have to trade up again.

[00:31:31] That was the point that I was trying to make.

[00:31:33] These receivers are going to be gone

[00:31:35] and you're going to be at a place where the next receiver,

[00:31:39] it's probably too high to take them in that spot

[00:31:42] because the way that I have it mapped out

[00:31:46] is Arizona taking Martin Harrison Jr.,

[00:31:48] the Giants taking neighbors

[00:31:51] and then Chicago potentially taking Ruma Duce.

[00:31:55] So if that happens in that way,

[00:31:59] if you're Arizona, you've cracked yourself out of

[00:32:03] grabbing one of the three best receivers in this draft.

[00:32:06] You know, if you want to put a weapon next to Kyla Berry.

[00:32:10] So your next opportunity to get a receiver

[00:32:14] is probably going to be in the lower third

[00:32:17] of the first round.

[00:32:18] So you'd have to trade back again,

[00:32:19] which is not impossible

[00:32:21] or not that you wouldn't be willing to do it.

[00:32:25] I just feel like that's a lot of work

[00:32:27] to end up with a guy

[00:32:30] that has probably more questions

[00:32:32] than the three people that I just named.

[00:32:35] So at that point, you know, I don't know what you're doing

[00:32:40] unless there's just another receiver

[00:32:42] that you like that nobody else is talking about.

[00:32:47] So that's my concern is if I'm Arizona and do that,

[00:32:52] I'm stuck with a project that receiver

[00:32:55] or I'm stuck with somebody

[00:32:57] that's not a leak at receiver potentially.

[00:33:00] And I would have to trade back

[00:33:01] to probably get that receiver anyway

[00:33:04] to be smart to save the money that, you know,

[00:33:08] the picks, you know, the money gets lower as the picks go old.

[00:33:12] So that'll be my concern there.

[00:33:14] Yeah, so as Arizona GM, if you're not offering,

[00:33:18] if you're not, let me think,

[00:33:21] if you're the Giants

[00:33:25] and you're offering me a haul

[00:33:28] and I go from four to six, I win it.

[00:33:31] Yeah, I can live with that, yeah.

[00:33:34] I don't know what Tennessee really,

[00:33:36] I know they just signed Ridley.

[00:33:37] I think they go online, man.

[00:33:39] I got Tennessee taking control.

[00:33:40] But I'm saying if they feel like, you know what?

[00:33:43] Let's get our wide receiver cord so stacked

[00:33:47] that our current tackles,

[00:33:50] see, I don't know what the reason is.

[00:33:52] So it could be the Bengal thing when they took Jamar Chase?

[00:33:55] They took Jamar Chase because like, listen,

[00:33:59] we could protect him or we can give him a guy

[00:34:02] that he'll get the ball to in two and a half seconds

[00:34:04] because they are on the same wavelength

[00:34:07] and they have been for the last two years.

[00:34:09] I don't think there's a Will Leviss guy available there,

[00:34:12] but if there's like a talent wise,

[00:34:15] you know, do you make that call?

[00:34:16] But like if I'm Arizona, I'm not going past.

[00:34:19] Like Atlanta has no reason to call you.

[00:34:23] Chicago has a reason to call you, not through the jets.

[00:34:26] So best case scenario would have to go.

[00:34:30] They would be Minnesota.

[00:34:31] Caleb, yeah, Caleb, Jaden, and then New England takes,

[00:34:38] New England takes JJ McCarthy out of kind of out of nowhere

[00:34:42] and Drake made that four

[00:34:44] and the Giants want to move from six to four.

[00:34:47] Then I'm going to get a haul,

[00:34:49] but I don't know, I understand, I don't know.

[00:34:52] I understand like how JJ went from wherever he was rated

[00:34:59] to top five because the same thing happened with Zach Wilson.

[00:35:03] Right, that's the big deal.

[00:35:04] I'm just not sure why he would do that.

[00:35:07] So JJ McCarthy is the wild card

[00:35:09] because I think it's one of those conundrums.

[00:35:12] Like I think that he's better than a lot of people think

[00:35:16] that he is because they're just going off of the offense

[00:35:19] that he was running at Michigan

[00:35:21] and he wasn't asked to do a lot.

[00:35:22] So they assume he can't do a lot.

[00:35:24] I think he can do more,

[00:35:26] but I don't think that he's also generational or great

[00:35:31] or he's gonna be the guy

[00:35:33] that turns your franchise around.

[00:35:35] I just don't understand why,

[00:35:38] and I've been seeing a lot of memes

[00:35:40] that are probably on par.

[00:35:41] They were like, you know, you got Caleb Williams,

[00:35:44] one of Heisman, Jane Danes, one of Heisman,

[00:35:49] Drake made what had been number one pick last year,

[00:35:51] like all these conversations.

[00:35:53] And then the conversation around JJ McCarthy was like,

[00:35:57] I haven't seen him do it, but I know he can do it.

[00:36:01] So it was like, what have you not seen?

[00:36:03] Like why didn't he throw?

[00:36:05] Like, where's the big throw?

[00:36:07] Where's the big play?

[00:36:09] Where's the Matt Ryan back across the field

[00:36:13] into the end zone, into the game throw?

[00:36:16] I know we have overtime

[00:36:18] or like the end of game against Alabama,

[00:36:22] but that was it.

[00:36:24] Like he didn't have anything before then.

[00:36:26] Like there was no long drive

[00:36:28] when he was kind of putting the ball in the money.

[00:36:30] I don't really think there's many games

[00:36:32] where it was like,

[00:36:33] we have Jill Burrow throwing Justin Jefferson open.

[00:36:36] We have Jill Burrow throwing a Jamar chase open.

[00:36:39] We have, you know, like just certain guys

[00:36:41] making these throws like Will Levis,

[00:36:43] we didn't have any throw

[00:36:46] and there's no throw you can remember for Will Levis.

[00:36:52] But Caleb Williams,

[00:36:53] you're seeing him running for his life in USC

[00:36:57] and throwing off balance on the sideline,

[00:36:59] right down the sideline over the cover two corner

[00:37:03] over in between the safety.

[00:37:05] Granted, it might have been late.

[00:37:06] It might have been off platform.

[00:37:08] It might have been off timing, whatever the case may be,

[00:37:10] but we have that throw.

[00:37:12] So I know you can make that throw.

[00:37:15] If I know you can make that kind of throw,

[00:37:17] I can make sure you lock into the system

[00:37:20] where you make this throw to the tight end quicker

[00:37:23] versus trying to get the wide receiver open.

[00:37:26] But I know you can make this throw.

[00:37:27] If it goes up, if it goes haywire,

[00:37:29] if the guard gets beat inside,

[00:37:31] I know you can roll, scramble, buy time, slide,

[00:37:35] unconventional throw.

[00:37:37] I don't know if you had that one McCarthy

[00:37:39] and for a team unless you are,

[00:37:45] I mean the teams right now in the top 10

[00:37:47] just had bad records.

[00:37:48] I don't think they're bad teams.

[00:37:50] Well, yeah, Chicago was definitely improved.

[00:37:55] They won seven games,

[00:37:56] I believe if I remember correctly.

[00:37:59] You know, Atlanta was on the verge

[00:38:01] of making the playoffs at the time.

[00:38:04] Ritter was one of those guys that,

[00:38:07] Ritter and JJ McCarthy, I know it's gonna sound kind of odd,

[00:38:12] but they kind of remind me of each other

[00:38:14] because that's where Ritter only lost

[00:38:17] like one or two games in college.

[00:38:19] Right.

[00:38:20] And he got Cincinnati into the college football playoffs

[00:38:24] and they lost, but when I went to the one,

[00:38:29] I went to a Falcons game, Falcons versus Jets

[00:38:33] and I'm sitting like row two or three.

[00:38:35] So like at the end zone,

[00:38:38] Atlanta's come in that way twice the games

[00:38:40] I'm watching the plays among the Atlanta side.

[00:38:44] And there was a few plays where he threw a pick

[00:38:49] but they got defensive holding

[00:38:50] because he was throwing at the pits.

[00:38:53] But it's just,

[00:38:56] I don't know if he pulls a trigger

[00:39:00] because they say NFL windows are like this.

[00:39:03] This is open.

[00:39:04] Right.

[00:39:05] In college, this is what they were kind of expecting.

[00:39:10] Right.

[00:39:11] And I felt this is open.

[00:39:12] Ritter didn't make that throw.

[00:39:14] I feel like McCarthy is in that position

[00:39:17] where he didn't throw the ball a lot

[00:39:20] in those tight windows

[00:39:22] because if he doesn't throw it,

[00:39:25] if you don't throw it to that tight window route

[00:39:28] on first and 10 or if it's incomplete

[00:39:31] or if he throws a check down,

[00:39:33] they're gonna call a running play on second down.

[00:39:35] It's gonna get them nine yards.

[00:39:37] Well, I saw Ritter-

[00:39:39] He never had to make that tight window throw.

[00:39:42] Yeah. So I saw Ritter in person as well.

[00:39:47] Granted, it was towards the end of his rookie season.

[00:39:50] Last game of the season.

[00:39:52] And I just didn't feel the,

[00:39:55] and I know this is one of those intangible things.

[00:39:58] I just didn't feel the presence.

[00:40:00] I saw someone that wasn't sure of himself

[00:40:04] because even when take somebody like Josh Allen,

[00:40:07] for example,

[00:40:09] had a pretty bad rookie year.

[00:40:11] People were like, what is Buffalo doing?

[00:40:14] Look at his completion percentage.

[00:40:16] But he looked confident.

[00:40:18] He looked like Abba Long here.

[00:40:21] Yeah, he's through that post with confidence.

[00:40:24] It might not have been on time

[00:40:25] or it might not have been the right read.

[00:40:29] But he let it go.

[00:40:30] And that Kaila Williams reps.

[00:40:32] Yeah, Ritter doesn't let it go.

[00:40:34] So I don't know if McCarthy has the reps.

[00:40:37] Like then I think Kaila Williams does.

[00:40:40] I think Jane Daniels does.

[00:40:43] I think Michael Pinnick's does.

[00:40:44] I think Bo Nix does

[00:40:46] because they played so much more college football

[00:40:50] and they played it where,

[00:40:52] I don't know if Bo Nix has ever had a real advantage

[00:40:55] walking onto the field that was as great

[00:40:59] as the advantage that JJ McCarthy had.

[00:41:02] But the running game in Michigan

[00:41:04] was always, was way better than anybody they played against.

[00:41:09] And their defensive front was way better

[00:41:11] than anyone they played against for 27 games.

[00:41:14] I don't think Bo Nix has ever walked into an arena

[00:41:16] like, yo, I have a tangible 10 percentage point,

[00:41:24] 15 percentage point advantage over the opposing team.

[00:41:28] I mean, you definitely played on the most talented team

[00:41:32] in the Pac-12 for the last two years.

[00:41:36] I'm looking at this.

[00:41:38] But Michael Pinnick's was better.

[00:41:40] Michael Pinnick's was just better than him individually

[00:41:44] but Oregon was favored over Washington

[00:41:47] both times they played this past year.

[00:41:49] They were favored over him last year,

[00:41:52] and Pinnick's in Washington won all three matchups.

[00:41:55] So he's the next guy that I wanted to bring up

[00:41:58] because I keep having this idea

[00:42:02] because as I look at the contracts,

[00:42:07] Geno Smith signed that three-year,

[00:42:09] $105 million deal.

[00:42:11] This is year two of it coming up.

[00:42:15] And so for me, I'm just wondering if I'm Seattle

[00:42:22] if it might be time to prepare for life after Geno

[00:42:25] or at least have my piece ready for when we move on.

[00:42:31] I don't know.

[00:42:32] I mean, maybe you trade back.

[00:42:33] It just depends on the tenor of the draft.

[00:42:34] How's it going?

[00:42:35] Because there are also rumors that DK Metcalf and Geno

[00:42:41] don't get along and there's been some rumors

[00:42:44] that Seattle might wanna get off a DK's contract.

[00:42:48] You know, I've heard-

[00:42:49] Is he on a one yet?

[00:42:51] I don't think he's on one.

[00:42:52] He's on a contract.

[00:42:53] He's not a contract.

[00:42:54] I mean, I don't think he's like breaking the bank

[00:42:56] or anything like that, but he got-

[00:42:58] I'm pulling it out right now.

[00:42:59] I'm just gonna keep going.

[00:43:00] Yeah, I'm looking too.

[00:43:01] But yeah, basically like if you are gonna do something

[00:43:04] like that, you just draft it.

[00:43:06] He got three years, 72 million with 58 guarantee.

[00:43:12] So yeah, he's not on his, I guess lack of better words,

[00:43:15] max contract.

[00:43:16] For 13 million?

[00:43:18] Oh, I'm not moving off of that at all.

[00:43:22] That's more than that, ain't it?

[00:43:23] Wait, no, his Metcalf will earn a base salary.

[00:43:26] Three years, 72, no, check it out.

[00:43:30] Yeah, the base salary is 13 million.

[00:43:32] 13 million, ish year.

[00:43:33] Yeah.

[00:43:34] You know, but they-

[00:43:35] I mean, that's good.

[00:43:36] That's a good tradeable contract though.

[00:43:39] That's what I'm saying.

[00:43:40] They drafted-

[00:43:40] That's tradeable.

[00:43:41] They drafted Jackson Smith and Jigba last year.

[00:43:44] You know, so could-

[00:43:46] I'm gonna keep reading to this, but I'm listening.

[00:43:48] And I'm only going off of the fact

[00:43:50] that I heard this is a rumor.

[00:43:51] I'm not saying that this is what I would do.

[00:43:54] You know, I'm just saying

[00:43:55] that this is a rumor that I've heard.

[00:43:57] And so if that's a thing, if that's a possibility,

[00:44:01] then why not grab penics

[00:44:04] and then you can come off a Gino this year?

[00:44:06] Cause I'm sure to get rid of some of the dead cap money

[00:44:09] that trading DK would get you,

[00:44:11] you just do it.

[00:44:13] You can stretch it out to like June 1st or whatever it is

[00:44:16] and lower the cap hit.

[00:44:18] So that could be a thing.

[00:44:20] But as I looked at it as well,

[00:44:22] I was trying to figure out where Brock Bowers could go.

[00:44:26] And, you know, he's a wild card as far as

[00:44:29] he's a tight end,

[00:44:31] but everybody views him as the next tight end,

[00:44:35] you know, of that Gronk, of that Antonio Gates,

[00:44:41] not that he plays like them,

[00:44:42] but this is that level of player.

[00:44:45] You know, so I know I've heard before

[00:44:48] the chargers could grab him.

[00:44:50] I don't know if they would take him that high,

[00:44:52] but you know, but a lot of people like it.

[00:44:55] I've heard the Jets might be interested in them.

[00:44:57] You know, get another weapon.

[00:45:00] My mock draft has Brock Bowers going 10,

[00:45:03] but the Jets,

[00:45:06] and I'm gonna give credit to Nick Wright

[00:45:07] because he brings up every time I watch the show

[00:45:09] and they talk about the Jets.

[00:45:10] Woo!

[00:45:11] Yeah. They're offensive tackle that you got from Dallas.

[00:45:17] Tyron Smith is injury prone and kind of long in a tooth.

[00:45:21] Definitely, definitely.

[00:45:23] So sitting at 10,

[00:45:26] do you get the second best tackle in the draft?

[00:45:31] Well, it depends.

[00:45:32] Or do you?

[00:45:33] Because we're talking about Latham from Alabama.

[00:45:37] There's some people that are saying

[00:45:39] that they think that he'll end up better than Joe Alt.

[00:45:44] Yeah, but I got, like I said, I'm using my mock draft

[00:45:48] because like I said, we talked about this

[00:45:49] in the pre-insure.

[00:45:51] We haven't like followed every element of college football,

[00:45:55] but if I'm looking at the top players,

[00:45:58] there's an offensive tackle

[00:46:00] from Penn State, Olu Fasnu,

[00:46:04] going to the Vegas at 13.

[00:46:09] We got another one going 14 to Lees Fouaga

[00:46:14] from Oregon State.

[00:46:16] He's going 14.

[00:46:18] Another one, Troy Fontanue,

[00:46:21] seems like a bunch of Polynesian guys.

[00:46:26] Yo, if you want to protect your quarterback,

[00:46:28] get your Polynesian guy.

[00:46:29] Atlanta, get a like a Pacific Islander Polynesian

[00:46:33] offensive lineman, defensive lineman.

[00:46:36] You're guaranteed 10 years at that position from that guy.

[00:46:41] We talk, me and Mike talk about it

[00:46:42] because like I said, we're stationed in Utah.

[00:46:46] The BYU offensive line, defensive line,

[00:46:50] Utah's defensive line, offensive line.

[00:46:52] If it's 10 players there, four are Polynesian or Samoa.

[00:46:56] Four to six.

[00:46:58] And if you're not six, four, three something,

[00:47:01] you're probably playing safety a linebacker.

[00:47:04] Yeah.

[00:47:05] Like, you know, if those schools,

[00:47:07] Utah BYU could get Texas speed wide receivers

[00:47:12] and the California quarterback,

[00:47:13] they're going to win a NASA championship.

[00:47:16] So, but yeah.

[00:47:17] So like, if I'm Seattle, like you said,

[00:47:20] we'll go back to Seattle.

[00:47:21] Yeah.

[00:47:22] Seattle was 16.

[00:47:24] If I could move DK, I would

[00:47:27] because the contract's favorable.

[00:47:29] He's only, he's 13 million this year, 18 next year.

[00:47:32] I don't know if he holds out with the next team

[00:47:34] as far as getting the contract.

[00:47:36] But if I'm the Jets, if I'm the Jets

[00:47:41] and I got Aaron Rodgers of New York City, Bright Lights,

[00:47:45] the Giants are kind of down.

[00:47:47] I take Brock Bowers

[00:47:49] and I try to create the greatest show on turf.

[00:47:51] Granite is outdoors, but I'll do that.

[00:47:57] How can I wrap with that?

[00:47:58] Aaron Rodgers is not big on like young receivers though.

[00:48:01] So that's another thing.

[00:48:03] Brock Bowers doesn't run the correct route on 38.

[00:48:08] You might literally have him out there just blocking

[00:48:12] for multiple games.

[00:48:14] So that's another piece you gotta look at

[00:48:16] because we remember the last few playoff games

[00:48:19] that Aaron had lost.

[00:48:21] And I'm gonna say, what game was it?

[00:48:23] The San Francisco game,

[00:48:24] he kept trying to force feed Devonte Adams and

[00:48:28] you know, this is the eighth receiver.

[00:48:31] He threw more passes to Aaron Jones

[00:48:34] and he threw to his young wire receiver core.

[00:48:37] I think he had to tighten Robert Tongan.

[00:48:40] I think he threw him a lot of passes.

[00:48:43] So Aaron's one of those guys, I remember what game it was

[00:48:45] a Monday night game, maybe Sunday Monday night game,

[00:48:49] Chicago Green Bay, Marquez Valdez Gantlin

[00:48:54] ran a deep post.

[00:48:56] I think at that point, New England, pardon me,

[00:49:00] Green Bay might have been up 14-0, 14-3,

[00:49:03] something like that.

[00:49:04] He runs this deep post.

[00:49:06] He's wide open.

[00:49:08] It's him, the referee, the end zone,

[00:49:12] the audience, Chicago defenders are all beat.

[00:49:17] He dropped it.

[00:49:19] Instead of Aaron being like, you know what?

[00:49:23] It is what it is.

[00:49:24] We're up two possessions already.

[00:49:27] Obviously my guy can beat you deep on this post.

[00:49:31] We gonna hit that again later.

[00:49:33] He snapped that little one strap that he has off.

[00:49:37] He snapped it off and then he didn't hit

[00:49:40] MVS for the rest of the game.

[00:49:42] It sounded like Darius Lee.

[00:49:45] So if I'm the Jets,

[00:49:49] I gotta look at the temperament of my quarterback.

[00:49:51] I'm going tackle right there.

[00:49:54] I'm going tackle or interior lineman

[00:49:57] or I'm trading back from 10

[00:50:00] so I can get an interior lineman because,

[00:50:02] like I said, I don't wanna get this young tight in there

[00:50:05] and my 40 year old quarterback doesn't throw in the ball

[00:50:09] because we have evidence to support that he will not.

[00:50:13] Jordan Love had a great season

[00:50:15] throwing to three guys that Aaron Rodgers

[00:50:17] stopped throwing the ball to critical moments

[00:50:19] in football games.

[00:50:19] Right, so back to the Arizona thing for a quick second

[00:50:24] because I just had a thought about it.

[00:50:27] That could be like we were talking about them

[00:50:29] potentially trading with the Raiders.

[00:50:32] You still have Brian Thomas available.

[00:50:34] I forgot about him, the other LSU receiver

[00:50:38] who actually led the Nation in touchdowns.

[00:50:40] But I was thinking about

[00:50:44] are the Colts and Jackson Bill in a race to get him?

[00:50:49] Because the Colts were at fishing.

[00:50:51] They just paid Pittman a lot of money

[00:50:53] so I doubt they're looking for a wide receiver.

[00:50:55] I think they need another one.

[00:50:57] Their quarterback just gotta hurt.

[00:50:59] I know they probably wanna keep them in the pocket

[00:51:01] so I imagine that either they wanna keep them in a pocket

[00:51:06] or get them short field and bolster the defense.

[00:51:10] So my original mock draft,

[00:51:11] I had the Colts taking Jared Verst out of Florida State

[00:51:16] to get some defensive line help.

[00:51:19] I had Jackson Bill taking Eddie Mitchell,

[00:51:22] the burner out of Texas who I'm not sure

[00:51:25] if he's worth going that high

[00:51:26] but since he ran that 40,

[00:51:29] somebody's gonna take the leap.

[00:51:32] And I'm gonna take Eddie Mitchell?

[00:51:34] Yeah, like the Raiders were a little high

[00:51:36] because they would normally be the team

[00:51:38] that grabs the fast guy

[00:51:39] but they're probably a little high

[00:51:41] if they end up staying in their spot.

[00:51:45] I'm looking for,

[00:51:48] who's gonna be the first corner to get drafted

[00:51:50] and where?

[00:51:52] Because the corner is my favorite position.

[00:51:54] So I'm-

[00:51:55] We got Terry and Arnold to the Colts at 15.

[00:51:58] I got Arnold going to the Rams

[00:52:01] even though I've heard Cooper Dejean

[00:52:03] is the preferred pick for the Rams.

[00:52:07] But that was just something that I was thinking about.

[00:52:10] I figured Dallas is probably gonna go off as a line.

[00:52:16] Do you think there will be a running back in the first round?

[00:52:21] No.

[00:52:23] I don't think so either,

[00:52:24] but I feel like that's wrong.

[00:52:26] Like I feel like-

[00:52:27] I think they'll take a Y receiver

[00:52:32] that isn't a first round talent.

[00:52:36] My eyes are shifting to my left

[00:52:37] because I'm watching the Clippers.

[00:52:40] Yeah, I'm still watching Milwaukee and Indiana.

[00:52:44] I just feel like,

[00:52:46] we talked about this before with NBA GMs

[00:52:50] kind of drafting to fit the style of the league

[00:52:54] versus what works best for your team.

[00:52:57] I think the running back will get ignored

[00:53:01] because like I said, you're the GM of the Cardinals.

[00:53:06] I'm the GM of the Packers.

[00:53:09] I know if I wanna run it back,

[00:53:12] I can get him in a second round.

[00:53:14] Just know what the likelihood of anybody trying to take,

[00:53:19] especially if I wanna run it back.

[00:53:21] I want the third or fourth running back.

[00:53:23] I can get him late in the second

[00:53:28] because I know the Vikings aren't taking one early.

[00:53:32] I know Philly's not taking one at 22.

[00:53:36] I know Detroit's not taking one at 29.

[00:53:40] So if I have a couple of second round picks,

[00:53:43] I'll squeeze him by running back there.

[00:53:45] So there's two teams that I think

[00:53:48] could use a running back.

[00:53:51] One is the Chargers,

[00:53:54] since they lost to Austin Eckler.

[00:53:56] Correct.

[00:53:57] One is Dallas, but I think Dallas just has

[00:54:00] more pressing needs than to grab a running back.

[00:54:03] But the difference is that where Dallas picks

[00:54:07] is more in line if somebody was to take a running back,

[00:54:11] whereas the Chargers could just wait till later on.

[00:54:15] But-

[00:54:16] Yeah, see Dallas at 24, they gotta replace Tackle.

[00:54:21] Maybe Kansas City, you know?

[00:54:24] I think Kansas City likes-

[00:54:28] No, no.

[00:54:29] Yeah, shout out to Isaiah Pacheco.

[00:54:33] Shout out to my boy Andre Morgan.

[00:54:35] He got the contract to do the shirts

[00:54:39] for Pacheco's parade that they had last Saturday.

[00:54:43] I'm gonna get his shirts here in a second.

[00:54:45] Yep, that's my man like,

[00:54:46] yo, right on time, right on time.

[00:54:48] Yep, so he got the contract,

[00:54:51] foot of parade,

[00:54:53] so Super Bowl champ,

[00:54:56] like literally linked up with a good friend of mine.

[00:54:59] This is the benefits and the perks

[00:55:01] of military connections and keeping them strong

[00:55:04] and why me and Mike have had this relationship

[00:55:06] for this long.

[00:55:08] So yeah, so he had, you know,

[00:55:10] he got Isaiah Pacheco,

[00:55:12] get the Rutgers, soft jersey kid, runs hard.

[00:55:16] I think Kansas City will probably-

[00:55:20] Maybe they need a receiver

[00:55:22] with this Rishi Rice drama going on.

[00:55:24] The Rishi Rice drama, like, yeah,

[00:55:26] I beat like I said, I beat this at Nazium.

[00:55:31] But I can see the cheese going from 32 to 27

[00:55:36] to get ahead of Buffalo and taking Mitchell

[00:55:41] just to keep him away from Buffalo.

[00:55:43] And my mock, I gotta understand where they are

[00:55:46] but taking his teammate, Xavier Worthy,

[00:55:48] you know, out of Texas.

[00:55:49] I don't know if Worthy gets drafted that.

[00:55:53] You can be fast because we saw it with John Ross.

[00:55:57] He was fast and if we looked at the stats right now,

[00:56:00] if you had to guess,

[00:56:03] over under 65 career receptions for Ross.

[00:56:09] That's the record at the combo.

[00:56:12] I would say under.

[00:56:13] You say under, okay.

[00:56:15] I like-

[00:56:16] But really close though, really close though.

[00:56:19] I like anti-Mitchell, AD Mitchell.

[00:56:21] Yeah.

[00:56:23] Cause this is another reason.

[00:56:26] That's Arizona's second first round pick

[00:56:30] and they got him taking Chop Robertson to Edge

[00:56:32] out of Penn State.

[00:56:35] That's why I had him taken two, yeah.

[00:56:37] If Kansas City says, you know what?

[00:56:39] We wanna jump and get a big body wide receiver

[00:56:43] for Patrick Mahon to throw the ball up to.

[00:56:46] You guys can have your edge.

[00:56:47] We pay Chris Jones.

[00:56:49] We have our defensive line kind of set.

[00:56:51] We saw how they dominated the Super Bowl.

[00:56:54] Yeah.

[00:56:54] Maybe we make that move.

[00:56:56] I don't know if this sounds like a pipe dream

[00:56:58] and I don't think Cincinnati would do it,

[00:57:01] but maybe Kansas City calls this thing.

[00:57:04] I say, yeah, what do you want for T. Agans?

[00:57:07] I doubt that that happens.

[00:57:09] I doubt it.

[00:57:11] I can see Kansas City saying, you know what?

[00:57:14] We're back to back champs.

[00:57:17] Pay Chris Jones.

[00:57:19] Mahon's had a down year per his standards.

[00:57:24] Do we roll the dice and say,

[00:57:29] we're gonna have, our defense is gonna be a little weaker,

[00:57:33] but we're gonna make a big wide receiver move

[00:57:38] to compensate for it's where,

[00:57:40] if we gotta win a shootout,

[00:57:41] we gotta win 31 and 28, 31 and 27.

[00:57:45] We can do that because we have the big wide receiver.

[00:57:49] And just in case y'all were wondering,

[00:57:52] the Indiana Pacers have joined the NBA playoffs.

[00:57:57] So, so do you have any sleepers in the draft?

[00:58:03] Like any players that you're interested in

[00:58:05] or think that, you know,

[00:58:08] it doesn't have to be a first rounder per se,

[00:58:09] but just somebody that you think,

[00:58:12] it's like, yo, that's a good football player

[00:58:14] or he's gonna be better than projected or so on so forth.

[00:58:22] I like my big 10 school.

[00:58:26] Here we go.

[00:58:28] You pull, I'll pull up John Ryce stats real quick.

[00:58:31] Okay. All right. Well, I'll talk about my sleepers.

[00:58:33] Okay. Sorry.

[00:58:34] So everybody that has been listening

[00:58:37] to sports reports disorder for some time,

[00:58:40] knows how I feel about Michael Pradett too late.

[00:58:43] So I'm not gonna get too deep into that one,

[00:58:45] but Malik Washington from the University of Virginia,

[00:58:50] you know, he's only five foot eight.

[00:58:52] You know, I'm sure he weighs less than me,

[00:58:55] you know, ran the four, four, seven, 40.

[00:58:57] He made up 47% of UVA's passing offense last year.

[00:59:04] The only two receivers in college football last year

[00:59:07] that had more 20 yard receptions than him.

[00:59:11] Malik neighbors in Rome of Doomsday, you know?

[00:59:14] So just keep that in mind.

[00:59:17] Bump means out of pit wide receiver.

[00:59:21] Pit probably had one of the top five

[00:59:24] or I should say bottom five worst quarterback situations

[00:59:27] in college football last year.

[00:59:29] So I think that's why he's under the radar

[00:59:31] because people just didn't get to see him

[00:59:33] because of their lack of quarterback.

[00:59:35] But I liked him a lot.

[00:59:37] Audra Estime from Notre Dame,

[00:59:40] he was the leading rusher in the nation last year,

[00:59:43] ran a four seven at the combine,

[00:59:46] ran a four six at the pro day.

[00:59:48] But you know, he falls on top of my list as...

[00:59:52] That four six and four sevens

[00:59:54] go lay him on a good team.

[00:59:56] Yeah, but this is just a good football player.

[00:59:59] And then I got three more for you real quick.

[01:00:02] Troy Franklin out of Oregon, deep threat,

[01:00:05] you know, 23 touchdowns,

[01:00:09] all time leading receiver in Oregon history.

[01:00:12] TJ Tampa out of Iowa State, he ran a four five seven.

[01:00:17] He's a corner, but they're probably moving over

[01:00:19] to safety I'm guessing.

[01:00:21] Something was going on with him

[01:00:23] because he comes from what I was reading.

[01:00:25] He comes from a family of jumpers,

[01:00:28] but he didn't jump at the combine.

[01:00:30] So I don't know if he had a hand string or something.

[01:00:33] He turned down the senior bowl.

[01:00:35] So that was an opportunity to kind of get on the map.

[01:00:38] But so I think he's gonna go a lot later than his talent,

[01:00:42] but he'll be a steal for somebody.

[01:00:44] And then finally, and finally before I throw up in my mouth,

[01:00:49] we got Carmen Ketchins from Miami.

[01:00:52] You know, he's the only person in college football

[01:00:56] that if you combine the last two seasons

[01:00:58] he had double digit picks.

[01:01:00] So he's the instinctual ballhawk

[01:01:03] that will come into the league

[01:01:05] and I think make life hard for wide receivers.

[01:01:09] But you know, that's what I'm doing.

[01:01:11] I went to Lab McConkey.

[01:01:12] I think Lab McConkey going to a team

[01:01:15] that plays a good,

[01:01:18] yeah, I was wondering.

[01:01:20] I was out of the spot.

[01:01:21] But if we real quick,

[01:01:23] I was wondering.

[01:01:24] I was wondering.

[01:01:25] I was over under 65.

[01:01:26] Yeah.

[01:01:27] 65 career receptions.

[01:01:29] Yeah.

[01:01:30] 62.

[01:01:31] See, that's what I said, right?

[01:01:33] Close.

[01:01:34] I think he was under, but close, you know?

[01:01:36] And then I forgot one,

[01:01:37] Bernardo Green from Florida State.

[01:01:39] That's my bias pick as a sleeper cornerback.

[01:01:42] But back to him.

[01:01:44] What we got Keon Cole going?

[01:01:45] I know Keon Cole.

[01:01:47] I got him going second round.

[01:01:48] He went slow, right?

[01:01:49] Yeah.

[01:01:50] I mean, he's old, not like that.

[01:01:52] He's been in a four or six,

[01:01:52] but he's also like Mitchell size,

[01:01:55] you know, 80 Mitchell size.

[01:01:57] Next is 4217.

[01:01:59] Yeah.

[01:02:00] Like so, I don't expect four twos

[01:02:02] out of those guys anyway.

[01:02:03] I mean, Anquan Bolden wasn't that big

[01:02:06] as far as six, four,

[01:02:07] but he ran a four or six.

[01:02:08] Jerry Rice and Tia both ran like four or five

[01:02:12] or four or sixes.

[01:02:13] Yeah.

[01:02:13] Well, Jerry Rice ran a four or seven as well.

[01:02:15] Yeah, four or six, four or seven.

[01:02:16] Yeah.

[01:02:17] I think Tia ran like four or six.

[01:02:18] Yeah.

[01:02:19] So I don't care about that.

[01:02:20] Tia runs a four or four right now at 50.

[01:02:21] You wouldn't line up in the fucking spot.

[01:02:24] There's your 40 time

[01:02:26] and then there's time

[01:02:27] or there's how fast are you in pads?

[01:02:29] He's got the hole open every single time.

[01:02:33] And don't forget, like even though he was six, four

[01:02:37] playing at Florida State with all these athletes,

[01:02:40] he was the pump return.

[01:02:43] So, you know,

[01:02:44] so I don't care about his 40 time, you know,

[01:02:47] but I think teams will use that to justify

[01:02:52] picking him later.

[01:02:54] That's probably my biggest sleeper

[01:02:55] because I remember watching the games.

[01:02:57] I watched the one handed catch over the middle

[01:03:00] while being contacted by safety over the top

[01:03:03] in the corner underneath and he held onto the ball.

[01:03:06] Yeah.

[01:03:07] Game where it gets Clemson?

[01:03:08] I think that's the kind of guy

[01:03:10] because if you, like I said, if you're a GM

[01:03:16] and I've had this, I've made this statement before,

[01:03:18] I'm not sure they all know exactly what they're doing.

[01:03:23] I think they either trust the analytics

[01:03:26] or they just go with whoever the most influential scout is.

[01:03:33] But if you just simply look at, okay, does this guy,

[01:03:36] does this guy get open?

[01:03:38] Can our quarterback,

[01:03:40] because if I'm looking at any position I'm looking at,

[01:03:44] I'm not bringing in a scout.

[01:03:45] The scout has his opinion.

[01:03:48] I wanna bring in the guy who has to work with him.

[01:03:50] So if I'm drafting a guard,

[01:03:53] I'm bringing my center and my tackle

[01:03:55] and my offensive line coach obviously,

[01:03:57] like, okay, does this guy look like he can fit

[01:04:01] between the two of you and coach?

[01:04:03] Could you, can you coach him to be in position?

[01:04:07] It's like, you know what?

[01:04:08] I like the way he moves.

[01:04:10] I like this.

[01:04:11] I like, you know, negative reference to other players.

[01:04:14] Like, oh, I played with this guy back in Denver.

[01:04:19] He did this.

[01:04:20] I like what he does there.

[01:04:21] He seems distinctive.

[01:04:22] Okay, quarterback, Keon Cole.

[01:04:25] Yeah, he ran a four six,

[01:04:27] but look at the separation at the top of the route.

[01:04:30] If your quarterback likes to throw dig routes

[01:04:32] or dagger routes and he can get separation

[01:04:35] at the top of the route,

[01:04:36] he was like, oh, this is one of my favorite routes

[01:04:39] to throw.

[01:04:40] This guy gets open every single time

[01:04:43] on these kind of routes

[01:04:44] or the choice route or the option routes.

[01:04:47] Or if you're Kansas City,

[01:04:50] so much attention is gonna be on Kelsey as a tight end

[01:04:55] to this guy,

[01:04:56] because Rashid Rice was one of those guys

[01:04:57] that ran underneath.

[01:04:59] Can we talk about it before the playoffs?

[01:05:01] Actually like he ran underneath it a lot of that.

[01:05:04] So he was like always available.

[01:05:06] Some guys want to go deep.

[01:05:08] Some guys just want to go.

[01:05:10] They want to throw their hand up.

[01:05:11] But does this guy like to be in the trenches?

[01:05:14] Does this guy like to run across the middle?

[01:05:16] It's not a matter of a go.

[01:05:18] I don't need you to be fast in the middle.

[01:05:21] I need you to be open.

[01:05:22] Right.

[01:05:23] I need you to get 10 and then,

[01:05:25] and let me get the ball on you.

[01:05:26] Be open, catch with your hands, turn up field.

[01:05:30] Yeah, so last night,

[01:05:32] I was reminded that we're done with the 80s.

[01:05:37] But as I was watching the NBA playoffs,

[01:05:42] I felt like I was watching

[01:05:43] what I was supposed to be watching.

[01:05:46] No flop, not a lot of flopping.

[01:05:49] Okay.

[01:05:50] Not a lot of tic-tac calls.

[01:05:52] Not a lot of players doing the D-weight thing

[01:05:59] where they shoot theirself out of a cannon

[01:06:01] with no intention of making a shot

[01:06:03] and get billed out by the referee.

[01:06:06] I thoroughly enjoyed it.

[01:06:07] Like last night was probably one of my best basketball

[01:06:10] nights in the last couple of seasons.

[01:06:14] And then LeBron James and Joel Embiid

[01:06:19] had to get on TV and bitch about the referees

[01:06:25] and bring me back to why

[01:06:29] I haven't been enjoying basketball as much as I used to.

[01:06:33] I don't think that's the case at all,

[01:06:34] but I understand what you're listening.

[01:06:36] I'm listening.

[01:06:37] Talk to him.

[01:06:37] Yes.

[01:06:38] Yes, and okay.

[01:06:40] The, I was texting you about New York's attack of Embiid

[01:06:49] because Embiid was hampered.

[01:06:51] He was playing at best 67 and 72%.

[01:06:58] Right.

[01:06:59] Jumping for rebounds.

[01:07:01] He's such a natural shooter of the basketball.

[01:07:06] If he could just stay healthy,

[01:07:09] he is unguardable.

[01:07:11] You know what's crazy though?

[01:07:13] So I'm gonna let you keep going,

[01:07:15] but I just wanna throw this out there real quick.

[01:07:17] So to your point, we were talking about

[01:07:20] his playoff failures and how he's come up short.

[01:07:24] These first two games against the mix

[01:07:28] as unguardable as he is,

[01:07:31] 20 of 51 from the floor.

[01:07:34] He dropped 30 plus last night.

[01:07:39] Yeah, thank God for free throws.

[01:07:41] No, no, no.

[01:07:44] He was gonna a lot of and one free throw attempts,

[01:07:47] but that's the thing.

[01:07:50] He didn't do a lot of the, he wasn't dribbling a lot.

[01:07:54] He was kind of moping and like laboring

[01:07:59] and getting the spots and getting the ball

[01:08:02] and just he had Hartenstein like on him

[01:08:06] and he was getting, I'm gonna count, I could be wrong,

[01:08:10] three, I'm gonna say three jump shots that went in

[01:08:15] where he got fives and got free throws.

[01:08:17] Cause he wasn't, he wasn't attacking the basket,

[01:08:20] especially in the second half.

[01:08:21] That's when I really sat down,

[01:08:22] started watching the game was in second half

[01:08:24] cause I like worked all day long,

[01:08:26] sat down, cooked some salmon, some steak,

[01:08:29] we dined, I was drinking some old fashions.

[01:08:32] So by my second old fashion, I was hitting you up a lot

[01:08:36] cause I was already like, two sheets to the wind.

[01:08:40] And I was talking about how Jalen Brunson

[01:08:43] was having a terrible shooting night.

[01:08:45] Oh, speaking of which, first two games of the series,

[01:08:48] my MVP, 18 for 48.

[01:08:52] Yeah, last night was Niagara.

[01:08:53] I think it was like eight for 29 or nine for 28.

[01:08:56] One of those combinations.

[01:08:58] But Hartenstein.

[01:09:00] Well, my bad, I got that mixed up with Jamal Murray.

[01:09:02] He was 16 for 55.

[01:09:06] In the second half, M.B. was only picking one defensive move.

[01:09:15] So either he was coming over to help

[01:09:18] or he was staying in the, staying to defend,

[01:09:22] you know, Hartenstein.

[01:09:24] He didn't do both.

[01:09:25] Right.

[01:09:26] No matter who was driving to the hoop.

[01:09:28] So he would pick one thing

[01:09:32] because Hartenstein was getting like the floater.

[01:09:34] He was getting left handed floaters.

[01:09:36] I think he had like 12 in the third quarter

[01:09:38] because then B couldn't move.

[01:09:40] He couldn't get to here

[01:09:41] cause he couldn't plant on the left leg and come back.

[01:09:44] He can get there and get his hands up and be a big body.

[01:09:48] But if you got the pass through,

[01:09:50] the big man was open in the paint every time.

[01:09:53] And I was texting you like, you know, tibs.

[01:09:57] How am I sitting in my,

[01:09:58] sitting at the crib in Jersey,

[01:10:00] watching on his TV saying,

[01:10:02] get Joel and Bede in the pick and roll.

[01:10:06] Right.

[01:10:07] Cause he was trying to avoid it

[01:10:08] because if they did it too high up,

[01:10:11] he just would drop and somebody else will come down.

[01:10:14] So if it was his guy setting the pick,

[01:10:17] but it was like early in the shot clock

[01:10:19] or it was like way beyond the three point line,

[01:10:21] he just didn't move.

[01:10:22] And the other Philly defender would come up

[01:10:26] and he was slide over to that guy's guy

[01:10:28] because that guy probably wouldn't get the ball.

[01:10:29] It was like Mitchell or somebody like that

[01:10:33] or Mitchell Robinson.

[01:10:35] So he was slide to that guy.

[01:10:37] I'm like, yo, put him in it again.

[01:10:40] But they would get the switch

[01:10:41] and then Jalen Brunch was trying to shoot himself

[01:10:43] out of the slump.

[01:10:44] I'm like, take it to him,

[01:10:45] B's chest, he can't move to his left at all.

[01:10:49] And they never did it.

[01:10:52] They just got lucky

[01:10:54] cause Brunson's three went in like Kawhi,

[01:10:56] Leonard's jumper back in the day.

[01:10:59] Were you traveled?

[01:11:00] And then, yeah, he absolutely traveled.

[01:11:03] And I get that the end of the game for Yasko

[01:11:06] and I'm like I said,

[01:11:09] I'm excited that the rest of it play out

[01:11:13] but Maxey traveled when he fell.

[01:11:18] So that should have been a call.

[01:11:19] He was being held too.

[01:11:21] I don't think he was being,

[01:11:22] he slipped before he got the ball.

[01:11:24] He definitely, Brunson.

[01:11:26] He was getting touched.

[01:11:28] He was getting touched.

[01:11:29] No, Brunson had his jersey.

[01:11:32] Like he had, he was like this.

[01:11:35] But either way, if you're not gonna call that

[01:11:37] and he falls, you gotta call it a travel.

[01:11:39] So you call it a travel

[01:11:41] and then it's like,

[01:11:42] nothing.

[01:11:43] So it's, yeah, so,

[01:11:45] but you gotta call something there.

[01:11:47] Like you gotta call a file or the travel.

[01:11:49] But since they didn't call anything,

[01:11:51] now the ball is scrambling.

[01:11:53] They're trying to call time out after the fall,

[01:11:56] but the ball is loose.

[01:11:57] The rest I could give you that.

[01:11:59] And Nick Nurse was calling time out.

[01:12:02] Nick Nurse did this.

[01:12:03] No, the first time he faked it.

[01:12:05] Like he was like, no, I'm not gonna do it.

[01:12:08] Then he was like, I got Lowry.

[01:12:09] He knows Lowry for years from Toronto.

[01:12:12] He's gonna make the right play.

[01:12:14] And then the pass was bad.

[01:12:16] And then Maxie, because they're so-

[01:12:18] The ball was fighting for the ball.

[01:12:20] They were fighting for the ball.

[01:12:21] So then they scrambled around

[01:12:22] and then Diva Chandler set the first three.

[01:12:25] And B, once again, his hamper didn't jump for the rebound.

[01:12:29] Hardenstein again, Harkinstein got the rebound,

[01:12:32] kicked it out of Diva Chandler.

[01:12:33] He shot it again.

[01:12:35] He shouldn't even be crying, man.

[01:12:38] He is-

[01:12:39] I respect it though.

[01:12:40] I do respect it.

[01:12:42] I respect the grind, but in the same sense,

[01:12:44] I'm still gonna attack it.

[01:12:46] He can't do that.

[01:12:46] No, no, definitely.

[01:12:47] But I'm just saying like, just watching it,

[01:12:50] I mean, no doctor or anything,

[01:12:52] but just watching it,

[01:12:54] the way that he can't move laterally

[01:12:57] and all that kind of stuff.

[01:12:57] He had Zeke, he's seven foot two.

[01:13:00] He has zero rebounds in a second.

[01:13:01] Like he looks like Greg Odin out there,

[01:13:03] you know what I'm saying?

[01:13:04] Except for his shots are falling.

[01:13:06] You know what I'm saying?

[01:13:06] Yeah, yeah, that was the thing.

[01:13:08] It was like his shots were falling.

[01:13:10] And I think his shots were falling

[01:13:12] because they weren't pressuring him at all defensively.

[01:13:15] They weren't making it work for it.

[01:13:17] They weren't making it work.

[01:13:18] I'm like, I'm making it.

[01:13:19] Like anytime I see a guy go off the floor

[01:13:22] and he takes his legs leave off

[01:13:24] and the trainer is working his knee,

[01:13:26] it's like, hey, Tibbs, someone tap Tibbs on the back.

[01:13:30] Tibbs, Tibbs, hey listen, come here.

[01:13:32] I know you wanna run these guys for 45 minutes,

[01:13:34] but let's get some fresh big bodies in there.

[01:13:37] And run them at and be because he can't move laterally.

[01:13:40] And I'm not asking for dirty play.

[01:13:42] I'm not telling anybody to try to hurt him.

[01:13:45] No, just make a move.

[01:13:46] But yo, be a little more aggressive on those box outs.

[01:13:51] I don't even think you need to do that.

[01:13:53] You don't even really need to do that.

[01:13:55] You just need to make him move

[01:13:57] from where he was standing to come out and defend.

[01:14:01] Because like I said, when he was doing the pick and roll,

[01:14:04] they were sending a different guy, reset it

[01:14:07] and make it to where he has to come out

[01:14:10] and either show on Jalen Brunson,

[01:14:13] blitz on Jalen Brunson or full-on switch.

[01:14:17] And now because Jalen Brunson was switching

[01:14:20] on Tobias Harris, like he was getting the switch

[01:14:23] and he's going one-on-one with Tobias.

[01:14:24] I'm like, Tobias is healthy.

[01:14:26] He's six, eight and healthy.

[01:14:28] Go after the seven-foot-two guy who's hampered.

[01:14:30] Why are you letting him off the hook?

[01:14:31] And I was, I was texting,

[01:14:33] I texted you probably like eight times.

[01:14:35] Like why are they letting him off the hook?

[01:14:37] I'm like, I would make them be putting themselves

[01:14:39] in this or like, do I want the potential jump shot

[01:14:43] two points of him being an offensive end?

[01:14:46] Meanwhile, I'm giving up two points every time

[01:14:48] someone goes at his chest.

[01:14:50] Or do I want to just put him on the bench?

[01:14:52] You know how many shots Tobias Harris took last night?

[01:14:56] That to guess eight?

[01:14:58] Seven.

[01:15:00] So Embiid in the post game

[01:15:03] where he was talking about the refs,

[01:15:05] he also might have had his Kobe Bryant 2010 moment.

[01:15:10] So when I was watching Kobe Bryant flag and seed,

[01:15:14] well, no, no, no.

[01:15:15] When I was watching Kobe back in 2010,

[01:15:17] they fell down to the Mavs.

[01:15:20] And when he came into press conference,

[01:15:22] he said something like,

[01:15:23] I guess we'll just win in six now.

[01:15:26] And then Dallas came out at one game three

[01:15:28] and then Kobe's like, series going seven.

[01:15:32] And then of course they got swept.

[01:15:34] So last night Embiid, he's like,

[01:15:37] hey, we're the better team

[01:15:38] and we're going to win this series.

[01:15:41] And it's like-

[01:15:42] You got 69 points from you and Maxi.

[01:15:47] And it wasn't enough.

[01:15:49] You know?

[01:15:50] It was close.

[01:15:51] But like I said, even with their 69 points,

[01:15:55] he was, it was ineffective because it's like,

[01:15:59] it's only so much you can do when your health is not in line.

[01:16:04] It's only so good you can feel.

[01:16:06] You could be, you could want to be the greatest dad ever.

[01:16:09] And your daughter can want her swing set put up.

[01:16:12] But if you aren't feeling it,

[01:16:14] if you're like, I'm too sick to hang this up,

[01:16:18] I'm not, you're not going to get it done on that Saturday.

[01:16:20] You might have to put a little bit of it up

[01:16:22] and get it later.

[01:16:23] No matter how badly Embiid wants to be on the floor,

[01:16:27] it was clear that they were playing four games

[01:16:34] on five defensively.

[01:16:36] And the Knicks and their coaching staff

[01:16:38] and all those dudes over there and Nick's quarter zips,

[01:16:42] no one told,

[01:16:43] Tims or whoever, whoever relays the office

[01:16:48] of messages scheme, no one said,

[01:16:52] let's get Joel Embiid in a pick and roll.

[01:16:56] And it just-

[01:16:56] So, Vellpia also has to start taking advantage

[01:17:00] of fast breaks because I think they're so Embiid reliant

[01:17:05] that they pull a lot of fast breaks to allow him

[01:17:08] to get down the court or you know,

[01:17:11] to be in a game like last night,

[01:17:13] just having four more fast break points

[01:17:16] probably wins you that game.

[01:17:20] A lot of fast breaks are led by like your role players

[01:17:23] and a lot of role players in tight games,

[01:17:27] they don't take-

[01:17:29] Especially on the road.

[01:17:30] Yeah, on the road,

[01:17:32] six minutes left from the fourth score is 98-97,

[01:17:37] you're down one.

[01:17:39] The ball swings to buy his hairs,

[01:17:41] maybe he takes that shot,

[01:17:44] but in the time out,

[01:17:46] they talked about getting the ball to Embiid.

[01:17:49] That's why in these games where teams are winning,

[01:17:54] the final score is 128-94

[01:17:59] is because we'll use Dallas as an example.

[01:18:03] St. Dallas goes up in this game

[01:18:05] and they start dominating here like the second half

[01:18:10] because right now in the second quarter, they're up four.

[01:18:13] If they go up like 14,

[01:18:15] I think PJ Washington takes that three

[01:18:18] if the ball comes to him when he's open.

[01:18:21] But right now the score is 33-28.

[01:18:25] If LA comes down the next two possessions ties it up,

[01:18:29] I don't know if he takes that three

[01:18:31] with the score 33-33.

[01:18:35] But if they're up 12, he takes it.

[01:18:38] Hardaway doesn't look for Luca when they're up 12,

[01:18:41] he just goes to the cup.

[01:18:43] And I think that's-

[01:18:44] That's why I'm underneath.

[01:18:45] So I think that's how these games get out of hand

[01:18:49] because if you think about it,

[01:18:51] I don't know how much better James Hardin shoots

[01:18:56] than Tim Hardaway.

[01:18:57] If you put both of them out there,

[01:18:58] they were just the basketball in their hand.

[01:19:00] Well, I think Tim Hardaway probably shoots better.

[01:19:02] But-

[01:19:03] Look, it's in the warm-ups.

[01:19:05] If they're standing side by side,

[01:19:07] like, yo, let's go shot for shot.

[01:19:09] They probably can knock them down at the same rate.

[01:19:11] But in the game, who has the green light?

[01:19:14] James Hardin does.

[01:19:15] Luca has the green light over Hardaway.

[01:19:18] So Hardaway has a position where he's like,

[01:19:19] oh, I can't hit the shot.

[01:19:20] Like, Coyre just pulled up from three off the-

[01:19:24] He got a little screen on the elbow.

[01:19:26] He pulled up from three.

[01:19:29] I don't think anybody-

[01:19:32] Like, I don't know if Hardaway does that same thing.

[01:19:34] You know what I mean?

[01:19:35] Oh, okay.

[01:19:36] Hit me hard and I liked it.

[01:19:37] You know what I'm saying?

[01:19:38] I liked it.

[01:19:41] Yeah, so as I was looking at it, you know,

[01:19:45] like you said, and B was unguardable,

[01:19:47] the shot was falling.

[01:19:48] I mean, he was eight for 22, you know what I mean?

[01:19:51] But, you know, so it might've just been timing.

[01:19:55] Like, he has definitely closed out the games well.

[01:19:58] But let's go over to the mile high city.

[01:20:03] And let's talk-

[01:20:04] I didn't like the reversal calls.

[01:20:06] I didn't mind the reversal.

[01:20:09] Because first of all, how many challenges do they get?

[01:20:14] I thought it was one.

[01:20:17] I thought it was two.

[01:20:18] They didn't get two in the playoffs.

[01:20:19] I thought it was one all year.

[01:20:23] Let's see.

[01:20:23] Keep going.

[01:20:24] Okay, so I thought it was one challenge

[01:20:27] because Malone challenged twice.

[01:20:31] Yeah, so yeah, yeah.

[01:20:32] So it's one, you get the second

[01:20:34] if you win the first challenge.

[01:20:36] Okay, okay.

[01:20:38] Well, he definitely took advantage of that.

[01:20:41] I thought D-Lo getting hit in the face

[01:20:43] after he let the ball go is still a foul.

[01:20:47] I don't like it.

[01:20:49] You don't like him getting hit in the face?

[01:20:52] No, I don't like calling fouls after something happens.

[01:20:56] So if I block your shot, if I block your shot,

[01:20:59] if we're coming down to the field-

[01:21:02] But if you block the shot, you impacted the ball.

[01:21:05] If I'm letting the ball go and you're followed through

[01:21:07] and your block attempt hits me in the face,

[01:21:09] it's a foul, in my opinion.

[01:21:11] If you-

[01:21:12] No, no, I didn't just say it.

[01:21:13] I didn't just say it.

[01:21:14] I don't think you're wrong per se,

[01:21:15] but I just don't like it.

[01:21:17] But the fact that they called the initial contact

[01:21:20] marginal-

[01:21:21] You gotta stick with it.

[01:21:22] Yeah, you called the foul

[01:21:23] and then you said,

[01:21:24] well, the initial contact was marginal

[01:21:26] when there was a deliberate,

[01:21:27] like not deliberate,

[01:21:28] but it was like a very apparent arm to the face

[01:21:32] a part of that entire process is okay.

[01:21:34] Did they review it for a flagrant or anything apparently?

[01:21:36] They didn't review it for a flagrant

[01:21:38] where they normally would.

[01:21:39] So it's like, that just felt odd.

[01:21:44] The Lakers problem has been their problem

[01:21:48] since the 2020 championship,

[01:21:50] which is they decided that having LeBron and AD

[01:21:58] was enough and everything else would just work around it.

[01:22:03] And we saw last night where

[01:22:06] they don't have anyone else.

[01:22:08] LeBron goes off the floor.

[01:22:10] They don't have another guy,

[01:22:11] even LeBron's on the floor that initiates the offense.

[01:22:15] Austin Rees can put himself in a position

[01:22:17] to shoot a jump shot,

[01:22:19] like he could work,

[01:22:20] because a lot of times what I noticed is that

[01:22:23] they'll work the pick and roll,

[01:22:26] pick and roll, pick and roll

[01:22:27] and they'll shoot the 15 foot jumper.

[01:22:29] And then it goes in or it doesn't.

[01:22:32] So I think it's just a bad setup for the team,

[01:22:35] but that's what they've been doing for a while.

[01:22:39] Well, I think I agree with that.

[01:22:42] Last night made me think of last year, game four.

[01:22:48] That was the game where LeBron had 31 in the first half

[01:22:52] and everybody was like,

[01:22:53] the king ain't gonna get swept.

[01:22:55] The goat ain't gonna get swept.

[01:22:57] This is his last stand.

[01:22:59] And then the Lakers proceeded to lose that game

[01:23:03] because they were hitting shots

[01:23:05] that they don't normally hit in the first half.

[01:23:09] And in the second half,

[01:23:11] the truth comes out when the mean gets involved.

[01:23:14] So like I was talking about Tori and Prince.

[01:23:19] He hit two really big difficult shots.

[01:23:23] That's not his game.

[01:23:25] He's the spotter, hit him in the corner,

[01:23:28] Bruce Bowen, PJ Tucker kind of guy.

[01:23:31] He shoots better than them,

[01:23:32] but that's his role

[01:23:34] versus these two shots that he hit

[01:23:37] were like off the dribble, three pointer,

[01:23:39] damn near fadeaways.

[01:23:43] DiAngelo went,

[01:23:45] started six of seven from three.

[01:23:47] Evan Davis should shoot 91% in the first half.

[01:23:51] It was just all of these things

[01:23:53] that there was no way the Lakers or anybody

[01:23:57] could sustain this.

[01:23:59] So that's why,

[01:24:01] as far as talking about referees,

[01:24:05] I don't support it because for one,

[01:24:08] you had a 20 point lead with those same referees.

[01:24:13] You know what I mean?

[01:24:14] For two, Denver and Yolkich is just,

[01:24:18] they just don't panic.

[01:24:19] Like the only reason you were up 20

[01:24:23] is outside of those things that I was talking about

[01:24:25] is because Jamal Mary was taking some of the dumbest shots

[01:24:29] I've ever seen a player of his caliber take.

[01:24:33] Yolkich is not the type that's gonna scream and yell.

[01:24:37] He's not gonna put his head down and pout.

[01:24:40] He's just gonna say,

[01:24:42] I'ma grab his rebound and we gonna go.

[01:24:44] He had a triple double with 20 rebounds.

[01:24:47] He was like, let's go.

[01:24:48] And this is what the Nuggets do

[01:24:51] because the Lakers get lackadaisical

[01:24:54] and they give up too many back door cuts

[01:24:57] or they start taking dumb shots

[01:25:00] because the fools go, the shot was full.

[01:25:03] The crazy part about the Lakers,

[01:25:04] they were up 20 and still didn't score 100 points.

[01:25:08] Right.

[01:25:10] You know, it just, like I said,

[01:25:11] it's because I don't...

[01:25:13] I mean, they still sound better than Denver though.

[01:25:16] They be like, I was saying that ADU's hit

[01:25:19] the lot of fall away left-handed runners and floaters.

[01:25:24] Like you said, he was shooting like 91%.

[01:25:26] You're not gonna shoot 91% the whole time.

[01:25:29] But I'm sick of James Harden with this move

[01:25:31] where he's like six his feet out and...

[01:25:34] I'm just sick of James Harden.

[01:25:35] You guys got to just don't close out.

[01:25:37] Just let him shoot that jumper.

[01:25:39] Just don't close out.

[01:25:39] Just let him shoot it.

[01:25:41] Like are you watching it?

[01:25:42] Look, six up.

[01:25:43] Yeah, yeah, I'm watching it.

[01:25:44] Nah, that's not a foul.

[01:25:45] That's not a foul.

[01:25:46] That's why you gotta...

[01:25:47] This is where people should be talking to the refs.

[01:25:51] Like, you know, this is the type of stuff

[01:25:53] because y'all been letting this man manipulate the league

[01:25:55] for like damn near 15 years.

[01:25:57] He's done it three times since this game's been on.

[01:25:59] You know, but what I don't like about it is...

[01:26:04] I think the replay center and Nick,

[01:26:07] shout out to Nick Wright.

[01:26:08] I want to give him credit.

[01:26:09] Like I watched a lot of Nick Wright

[01:26:10] and we talked about this before.

[01:26:12] He said, I think LeBron has hated the replay

[01:26:15] and the replay process every since game one

[01:26:18] of the 2018 finals where he took the charge

[01:26:22] on Kevin Durant.

[01:26:24] He was clearly outside of restricted area.

[01:26:27] It wasn't even a question if he was close.

[01:26:30] They reviewed it to see if he was outside of restricted area.

[01:26:34] He was, and then they changed it to a block.

[01:26:38] We've done that a lot.

[01:26:40] I think so.

[01:26:41] I think it was like, you said,

[01:26:42] you might be done with the replay center since then.

[01:26:44] And like I said, last night,

[01:26:46] I got personally feel like the replay,

[01:26:51] the D-Lo file, and I think it was another one.

[01:26:53] I can't remember the D-Lo one that really comes in

[01:26:55] because it's like...

[01:26:56] Well, I know there was a foul that LeBron wanted that.

[01:27:00] No, they reversed the LeBron call.

[01:27:02] Remember, they were in game

[01:27:05] where LeBron did his signature,

[01:27:07] I'm going to throw my shoulder into you

[01:27:09] and I'm way stronger and I'm going to knock you

[01:27:11] on the ground,

[01:27:12] but somehow they're going to blow the whistle

[01:27:13] and give me the foul.

[01:27:15] And they reversed that.

[01:27:17] So he was probably upset about that too.

[01:27:18] They reversed that and then they reversed the D-Lo one

[01:27:21] where he got hit in the face.

[01:27:23] So it was like, I get...

[01:27:24] But the fact that they said the contact was marginal

[01:27:27] is like,

[01:27:29] so is that where you rate all of your foul calls?

[01:27:34] And for them to say it both times.

[01:27:36] And that's the thing is like, come on, man.

[01:27:39] You said the first thing was marginal.

[01:27:42] Okay, cool.

[01:27:43] We'll live and die with that.

[01:27:44] But the second one,

[01:27:45] my guy got hit in the face

[01:27:46] and the follow through on the block attempt.

[01:27:49] So it wasn't as if the shot went up

[01:27:51] and Porter went to turn to get the rebound

[01:27:55] and he hit him in the face.

[01:27:57] It was a follow through of the attempt

[01:27:59] of the block of the shot that hit him in the face.

[01:28:02] So the contact on the floor, yeah, it was marginal,

[01:28:05] but his attempt at the block hit me in the face.

[01:28:08] So how do you reverse that?

[01:28:10] You would never reverse that throughout the season.

[01:28:15] Looks like we got a little technical difficulties.

[01:28:16] Mike should be back here shortly.

[01:28:18] I thought his face was a little weird

[01:28:20] when he was just staring at me.

[01:28:21] But I guess it's a Raphael, Mr. Logical show.

[01:28:24] But like I said, as we keep recording

[01:28:26] as we're still live, that was the issue with the call.

[01:28:30] The call wasn't a matter of, oh, I'm LeBron,

[01:28:33] I should get this call is the fact

[01:28:34] that any other time of the year,

[01:28:36] you would make that call.

[01:28:38] It would have stayed.

[01:28:39] It would have, it would have,

[01:28:40] it would have, it would have stayed

[01:28:41] because he followed through hit him in the face.

[01:28:43] That's the file.

[01:28:44] Even though the ball is in the air.

[01:28:47] But that logic, a jump shooting,

[01:28:49] shooting the ball comes down to the ground

[01:28:51] and you hit him with a little chicken wing.

[01:28:52] It's like, oh, well the ball is gone.

[01:28:54] So it's not a foul.

[01:28:54] That was the issue that came up with the LeBron.

[01:28:59] He's probably gonna get fined.

[01:29:01] It's been about 24 hours.

[01:29:02] I haven't seen anything pop up about a fine.

[01:29:05] But I imagine that a fine is coming.

[01:29:07] Probably in the world of $25,000, 15 to 20,000.

[01:29:13] Joel probably get 15 to 20,000.

[01:29:17] Cause you can't always blame the refs,

[01:29:18] but you can highlight a couple of plays here and there.

[01:29:23] Philly's problem is that,

[01:29:26] I don't know if their third guy gets active

[01:29:28] when he needs to get active.

[01:29:31] The Lakers problem is the same way.

[01:29:33] It was like D low catches fire.

[01:29:36] But when it comes to just making smart basketball play,

[01:29:40] getting points where you don't go four, five, six,

[01:29:42] eight, 10 possessions in a row without any points.

[01:29:45] So you need to get that parts squared away.

[01:29:50] So that's the concern that D low

[01:29:51] was driving the second overall as a point guard.

[01:29:52] He was like the anomaly.

[01:29:54] He was like six, five, two, six,

[01:29:57] you know, six, five point guard.

[01:30:01] He was supposed to be like that new wave of point guard

[01:30:03] in the elk of Anthony Hardaway.

[01:30:07] Penny ladies, it just didn't happen that way.

[01:30:11] The Lakers are already fighting uphill anyway,

[01:30:14] playing in Denver, the 5280 on the front of the jerseys.

[01:30:17] That's the mile high.

[01:30:19] So it's 5,200.

[01:30:21] So 5,280 mile or feet up is a mile.

[01:30:26] So playing at elevation is different.

[01:30:28] Like I said, I was in Utah where like,

[01:30:31] I think we're close to 5,000 feet.

[01:30:33] Me and Mike, we went to NCOA in Peterson, Colorado,

[01:30:37] it was close to like maybe 6,000 feet.

[01:30:40] Just that difference is drastic.

[01:30:42] Granted, these are prime NBA athletes,

[01:30:46] but in the same sense, it still takes a toll on you.

[01:30:49] And then having Yoke at your big body,

[01:30:51] play smart, 25 plus points, 20 plus rebounds,

[01:30:55] 10 assists, only like the eight times has happened

[01:30:58] to where you got had that stat line

[01:31:00] of 25, 20 and 10 triple double in the playoffs.

[01:31:04] He has four of them.

[01:31:06] So the Lakers are overmatched,

[01:31:09] but as far as for this game, they had an opportunity.

[01:31:12] Those calls, those calls, those no calls, the reversal calls.

[01:31:21] Excuse me.

[01:31:26] See if I get Mike back in the line.

[01:31:36] But as we look at the playoffs,

[01:31:38] is it still currently playing out?

[01:31:41] Indiana type of series with Milwaukee.

[01:31:44] I believe they had a nice blowout win against Milwaukee.

[01:31:47] They're gonna need Giannis back.

[01:31:49] Maybe you're not rushing back.

[01:31:50] It kind of aligns with the Dallas Clippers series

[01:31:55] with Mike saying, I would make you beat me

[01:32:00] to where I had to play Kawhi.

[01:32:02] I don't know if Milwaukee had that same kind of mindset,

[01:32:05] but they did have an opportunity to really

[01:32:09] put their foot on the necks of Indiana and game one

[01:32:13] with Dane with 35 in the first half,

[01:32:15] and they went completely passive in the second half.

[01:32:19] As far as from Dane, I think Dr. Rivers

[01:32:22] is gonna put no walking position

[01:32:23] where they're not gonna make it out of the first round.

[01:32:27] So if I got a guy that got me 35 points

[01:32:30] in the first round, a guy that scored 70

[01:32:32] in the NBA game as recently as last year,

[01:32:36] guys closed out two NBA playoffs series

[01:32:40] with game winning three point shots.

[01:32:42] I'm riding him and have everybody jump in the backpack

[01:32:47] with him, but for some reason,

[01:32:49] Dr. Rivers went the complete opposite approach.

[01:32:51] I said, let's get everybody involved.

[01:32:53] Like everybody don't need to be involved.

[01:32:54] We're already up double digits.

[01:32:56] I got my best player who's prime,

[01:32:59] same time, big time moments.

[01:33:04] And he doesn't get any points in the second half.

[01:33:07] So that's indicative of what Dr. Rivers is gonna do.

[01:33:12] I can't see a such scenario where he has his job next year

[01:33:15] if they're losing the first round.

[01:33:17] Watching Phoenix lose to Minnesota

[01:33:21] was a competition being mic'd by having an early use.

[01:33:24] Like I'm not sure how Phoenix wins their games.

[01:33:28] Neither am I.

[01:33:29] I just kind of think that they are fortunate

[01:33:32] to have Booker and KD and Bradley Bill,

[01:33:36] guys that just scored a bucket.

[01:33:39] And Nirkus knows his role.

[01:33:42] He tried to overplay his role.

[01:33:43] It was like trying to back go bare down.

[01:33:45] He was losing the ball.

[01:33:47] And I get there to try to show a different identity,

[01:33:49] but I'm like, I will just ride my Phoenix Big Three

[01:33:54] and see what we can do from there.

[01:33:56] Watching this Dallas Clippers game looks competitive.

[01:33:59] Like I watched a lot of the games.

[01:34:00] When I watched them, I watched them on mute.

[01:34:03] Luca just shot a 29 foot three.

[01:34:06] Looks like they're trying to go two for one.

[01:34:10] So as it sits right now, Dallas up four 45, 41.

[01:34:17] James Harden with the ball, 16 seconds left in the game

[01:34:20] or didn't have six seconds left on the shot clock.

[01:34:24] Harden shoots misses, ball to Luca, five seconds.

[01:34:32] And looks like he's not gonna get it up.

[01:34:34] He got the shot off and no good.

[01:34:37] That's crazy how my internet died

[01:34:39] and I'm still like 16 seconds ahead of you.

[01:34:42] Yeah.

[01:34:42] That's right.

[01:34:45] Yeah. So technical difficulties, y'all.

[01:34:46] Sorry about that.

[01:34:48] Let's wrap this thing up.

[01:34:49] But uh, but you know, but no,

[01:34:52] like with LeBron, right?

[01:34:54] Like I think the thing that bothers me though

[01:34:57] is that we always talk about how teams,

[01:35:02] generally not always, but teams reflect their best players.

[01:35:07] Like, you know, like the reason that Tim Duncan

[01:35:11] or the Spurs work is because PapaVitch can talk

[01:35:14] to Tim Duncan and make Tim Duncan respect him

[01:35:17] or and so, so if you're a lesser player,

[01:35:21] you can't go against the grain because Timmy is taking it

[01:35:24] or same thing with Tom Brady.

[01:35:26] Like Bill Belichick might make Tom Brady run a lap.

[01:35:30] You can't complain if Tom Brady's doing it.

[01:35:32] That's my problem.

[01:35:33] That's the problem that I've always had with LeBron

[01:35:35] is that like not only are you the leader of the team,

[01:35:39] the overarching shadow,

[01:35:41] but you're the face of the league as well.

[01:35:44] Like if this was just a back and forth game

[01:35:47] and these things happened in a vacuum,

[01:35:49] I get how frustration can be a thing.

[01:35:53] Like when Cam Newton didn't wanna talk after the Super Bowl,

[01:35:56] I can get how that could be a frustrating moment

[01:35:58] and you're human, you know, let's not lose,

[01:36:02] you know, fact of that.

[01:36:04] But y'all have to think-

[01:36:05] You've been doing a human athlete's

[01:36:06] playing a great game.

[01:36:07] Y'all have a team-

[01:36:09] My loss is 20 point lead.

[01:36:11] And-

[01:36:12] If I'm a player, if you're going to go to replay,

[01:36:17] and change these calls and say marginal contact with this

[01:36:21] or that whatever the case may be,

[01:36:23] if you're gonna be that meticulous from a referee standpoint,

[01:36:27] then you should be that meticulous

[01:36:29] when you're making your call

[01:36:30] or you should be that definitive.

[01:36:32] So it's like either you're gonna be right

[01:36:34] and you're gonna make the call,

[01:36:35] you're gonna call it as you see it on the floor

[01:36:37] or you're gonna let the replay center do it.

[01:36:39] So what-

[01:36:40] So like in that case, like listen,

[01:36:43] are you gonna be,

[01:36:44] are you gonna run the floor here?

[01:36:47] Or are you gonna just make these calls

[01:36:49] and then let someone in Sokalkus,

[01:36:51] shout out NBA.com, I'm trying to get hired.

[01:36:54] Are they gonna,

[01:36:54] are you gonna let them look at the video

[01:36:56] and see you to message them,

[01:36:57] this is the actual call?

[01:36:59] So I understand the frustration considering that,

[01:37:02] but-

[01:37:03] I don't understand the frustration

[01:37:05] I don't understand the frustration

[01:37:06] when your team shot 659 more pre-throws

[01:37:10] than any other team in the league.

[01:37:12] Like-

[01:37:13] It's over two years.

[01:37:14] Still!

[01:37:16] Still!

[01:37:16] That's the only thing you know there.

[01:37:17] That goes-

[01:37:18] No, it is here.

[01:37:19] It's over there.

[01:37:20] You know there.

[01:37:21] No, it's in this game.

[01:37:23] Don't try to feed it as-

[01:37:24] That's not like you're not getting from a call.

[01:37:26] It's not about the bias.

[01:37:27] It's not about the bias.

[01:37:28] It's the fact that if you're going to call,

[01:37:31] if you're going to reverse calls,

[01:37:33] if you're gonna be this focused on these calls

[01:37:37] to this level of attention,

[01:37:40] then you have to give the attention

[01:37:43] and the live action plays as well.

[01:37:45] It's just though, like you have to-

[01:37:47] If you let the players pay extra attention.

[01:37:49] If you're gonna let it play out,

[01:37:51] then let it play out.

[01:37:52] But if you're going to say something,

[01:37:54] like I said, I think the statement that they need

[01:37:57] as far as the contact being marginal,

[01:38:00] but yet you would call a foul any other time

[01:38:03] throughout the game with that same level

[01:38:06] of marginal contact.

[01:38:08] So it was like, did you call it?

[01:38:10] Did you reverse it because it was slowed down?

[01:38:14] Because like I said, whatever slap on the wrist,

[01:38:16] it happens every play.

[01:38:18] Everyone's getting bumped and slapped and everything else.

[01:38:21] But if you're gonna call it definitive,

[01:38:23] if you're gonna call a foul in four minutes

[01:38:27] into the third quarter,

[01:38:28] where it was marginal contact

[01:38:31] and you called the foul and that guy got free throws.

[01:38:33] Lakers or-

[01:38:34] But yet you ain't got no problem with superstar calls.

[01:38:37] No, listen, I'm not trying to,

[01:38:40] it's not from my vantage point.

[01:38:43] I'm trying to get a perspective of what he was saying.

[01:38:46] But with the D-Lo thing,

[01:38:47] because that's the one that I think-

[01:38:50] That's the big thing because that's the foul.

[01:38:52] That's the foul all day long anywhere on earth.

[01:38:56] The way that I look at it is if it happened,

[01:39:02] so the way that I remember it happened,

[01:39:04] going off a memory,

[01:39:05] the way I remember it happening was ball came out,

[01:39:09] it was like a huh, huh slap.

[01:39:13] It wasn't instant like balls out foul.

[01:39:16] Like you don't have any-

[01:39:17] It was like this.

[01:39:18] So what's the-

[01:39:19] D-Lo's left handed,

[01:39:20] he's coming up the left side of the paint.

[01:39:22] He's shooting the left handed floater.

[01:39:25] Porters got him on low with the elbow,

[01:39:29] which is a foul every time.

[01:39:31] And I think that's what LeRon was saying.

[01:39:32] But listen, you called that foul

[01:39:35] early in the game on the opposite end.

[01:39:38] You called it for us earlier.

[01:39:40] You called it for us earlier.

[01:39:40] You called it for us earlier.

[01:39:41] Once again, so you called that foul without a replay

[01:39:45] and gave guys free throws on each end of the floor,

[01:39:48] probably all game long.

[01:39:51] But when it goes to replay,

[01:39:53] now all of a sudden you're dissecting

[01:39:55] how much the contact is.

[01:39:57] Okay, cool, you wanna call Marge in the contact.

[01:40:00] But porters, the only reason porter

[01:40:03] is swiping at D-Lo's face

[01:40:05] is an attempt to block the shot.

[01:40:08] So if on the follow through,

[01:40:11] in slow motion it looks like this, boom, boom, shot, arm.

[01:40:18] But that's all one,

[01:40:20] that's all part of that defensive posture

[01:40:22] you had from the free throw line to the rim.

[01:40:25] So that's the argument-

[01:40:26] So it continues with you basically.

[01:40:28] If there was no review,

[01:40:31] if there was no review,

[01:40:33] that call would have stood because he hit him in the face.

[01:40:38] The review doesn't take away

[01:40:41] the fact that he hit him in the face.

[01:40:43] And the review, in this case,

[01:40:45] they actually did say, well,

[01:40:48] it was marginal contact on the body.

[01:40:52] But I'm like, you didn't say anything

[01:40:54] about him getting hit in the face.

[01:40:55] They didn't even say, oh, the ball was released.

[01:40:58] And again, they didn't even mention that.

[01:41:00] They just talked about that lower,

[01:41:02] like the contact with the elbow.

[01:41:04] And that's why I was trying to look at me

[01:41:06] to review it for a Flagrant.

[01:41:08] They didn't review it for a Flagrant,

[01:41:09] which they would have in December.

[01:41:13] That, I think that was the piece is like,

[01:41:16] you've called that straight up all game long

[01:41:21] as a foul for each team.

[01:41:22] AD got called with that at some point.

[01:41:25] I'm pretty sure the Broncutt would use fouls.

[01:41:27] Carbo Poke got called with these fouls.

[01:41:30] Like everybody got called for that kind of that bump

[01:41:32] as the guys going to the hoop foul.

[01:41:35] But when it goes to the replay center,

[01:41:37] now all of a sudden the parameters are different.

[01:41:39] And that, you know, granted, yeah,

[01:41:41] you get a couple of free throws,

[01:41:43] maybe you go up five, you go up six, it changes.

[01:41:46] And you end up losing by two on a great shot by Murray.

[01:41:48] And I understand that.

[01:41:49] But if the expectation is that's a foul all day long,

[01:41:55] unless the replay center comes through,

[01:41:56] I can get that frustration.

[01:41:58] With Joel and Bede, I don't think it's,

[01:42:01] I don't think there was a foul.

[01:42:03] Cause he said he tried to call a timeout when she didn't.

[01:42:08] No, he didn't.

[01:42:09] He said, that's what I'm saying.

[01:42:10] So he made up stuff to try to wrap my...

[01:42:14] Go back and, when we're done, go back and watch it.

[01:42:16] They definitely had a message.

[01:42:18] But Matthew also threw an elbow to get space.

[01:42:21] That's what I'm saying.

[01:42:23] So it was like, you, but that's what I mean.

[01:42:25] If you don't call it out of the way, I'm good.

[01:42:31] But if you call that elbow all game long,

[01:42:36] and then in that last second, he throws an elbow,

[01:42:39] it goes to review.

[01:42:41] And then you call the tug on the jersey,

[01:42:43] but not the elbow.

[01:42:45] That's the problem.

[01:42:47] But you also can't be the dude

[01:42:49] that gets away with playing running back 95% of the time.

[01:42:53] And you're complaining about the referees.

[01:42:57] Like I said, he had a legit complaint.

[01:43:01] They had a...

[01:43:02] He did and so does everybody that he elbows in the face.

[01:43:05] Okay, so because he has a legit complaint,

[01:43:10] then that's all that matters.

[01:43:11] It doesn't matter.

[01:43:11] The history of him.

[01:43:13] It does matter.

[01:43:14] So I'm talking about...

[01:43:15] I'm getting a vantage 95% of the time.

[01:43:18] You know what I'm saying?

[01:43:19] And I bitch the 5% that the advantage wasn't in my favor.

[01:43:24] You're gonna say to me, come on Mike,

[01:43:27] you know that you got that 95% of the time.

[01:43:30] No.

[01:43:31] That was the one time

[01:43:32] that you were telling your favor.

[01:43:33] If you speed 95 days out of 100 days on your way to work,

[01:43:40] if you speed every single day

[01:43:42] and no date out of 100 days,

[01:43:46] five days you get traffic tickets,

[01:43:48] you're not gonna be like,

[01:43:49] well I do get away with this 95 days out of 100.

[01:43:52] You be like, I got five speed tickets.

[01:43:55] Really?

[01:43:55] What are your five speed tickets?

[01:43:56] No, I would be like,

[01:43:58] I was gonna get caught eventually.

[01:44:00] Now five...

[01:44:01] No, the five times.

[01:44:02] That's what you're saying?

[01:44:03] Like you're going too much right now.

[01:44:05] I don't get what I mean though.

[01:44:06] It's like it doesn't matter if he argued it.

[01:44:09] We know LeBron does get hacked.

[01:44:13] He does initiate contact.

[01:44:15] Absolutely.

[01:44:15] He is bigger than most of the guys who guard him.

[01:44:18] Absolutely.

[01:44:19] But probably by 20 or 30 pounds, absolutely.

[01:44:21] He uses his body to create contact.

[01:44:23] Absolutely.

[01:44:24] But he does get charged calls, called on him.

[01:44:27] But he wasn't talking about a call on him.

[01:44:30] I know he was complaining about the law.

[01:44:31] He's been broken to nicks.

[01:44:32] He even broke that up.

[01:44:34] Cause he was thinking the same thing as you.

[01:44:36] It was like, what are we doing?

[01:44:38] But maybe it's calculated

[01:44:41] cause Phil Jackson should do this a lot too.

[01:44:43] We talked about that the other day.

[01:44:44] It's just some guys just know how to work it.

[01:44:47] But in this particular...

[01:44:49] All I'm saying is I'm good at getting...

[01:44:51] All basketball.

[01:44:52] I'm good with play all basketball,

[01:44:54] but I'm not good with the review call

[01:44:57] and then the explanation afterwards.

[01:44:59] That was the problem.

[01:45:01] I can live with that.

[01:45:01] It's the fact that they said marginal contact each time.

[01:45:05] But meanwhile, if there were 35 calls,

[01:45:08] five calls in the game,

[01:45:10] they're all probably 12 of them were marginal contact.

[01:45:15] That didn't get reviewed.

[01:45:17] It's like how you could call a hold on every play.

[01:45:19] I get it.

[01:45:20] But if you got to review the holding call

[01:45:23] and the referee said, well,

[01:45:25] his jersey was only a couple of inches off his shoulder pad.

[01:45:28] It's like, is it holding or not?

[01:45:31] And I think as a player, someone who's...

[01:45:34] Especially in that game,

[01:45:36] LeBron, Dilo, Jamal Murray, Yolkich,

[01:45:41] Michael Perling Jr., Aaron Gordon,

[01:45:42] they probably all had different files called on them

[01:45:46] that they felt weren't files.

[01:45:48] And they went to the ref and the ref says,

[01:45:50] I'll give you prime example,

[01:45:52] like real quick and then we'll get out of here.

[01:45:54] So my son,

[01:45:56] like as my son played freshman basketball,

[01:45:58] they were playing in school

[01:45:59] and it was the other team,

[01:46:00] they were working like this motion offense

[01:46:03] where they were like doing a lot of dribble handoffs

[01:46:05] at the top of the key.

[01:46:06] So the handoffs, the guys were coming off

[01:46:08] of like pentals.

[01:46:09] So they were like coming off getting like these handoffs.

[01:46:13] And I'm like, yo,

[01:46:14] they're traveling every time they get the ball.

[01:46:18] Every time they get the ball, they travel.

[01:46:20] And I'm like, yo, number 14,

[01:46:22] every time he starts his dribble,

[01:46:23] he starts it with two hands every time,

[01:46:26] no matter where he gets the ball

[01:46:27] or they'll stop the ball like 12 feet

[01:46:31] from the three point line to set up their offense

[01:46:33] and the guy's like moving both feet.

[01:46:35] So the ref comes over and I'm like, yo,

[01:46:38] are you gonna call these travel?

[01:46:39] So he was like, man, if I call it every travel

[01:46:42] we'll be here all day.

[01:46:43] But he was like,

[01:46:44] if it doesn't give him a competitive advantage

[01:46:46] I'm not gonna call it.

[01:46:47] I'm like, so one of the moms like,

[01:46:49] so what's interesting to travel and a competitive travel?

[01:46:51] Well, that's what I was gonna bring up before.

[01:46:54] Like if it's a travel,

[01:46:55] we call it a travel and that way they'll stop traveling

[01:46:57] and we'll stop screaming from our end of the thing.

[01:47:00] It's like literally these two

[01:47:01] are like doing that to us.

[01:47:02] That's something that LeBron and Westbrook do a lot.

[01:47:05] When they, when they,

[01:47:05] But what I'm saying is like,

[01:47:07] they never called it.

[01:47:08] But the ref said it to us like,

[01:47:11] that's because it doesn't give a competitive advantage.

[01:47:13] So if you're a defender

[01:47:15] and you get a file called on you

[01:47:17] and Aaron Gordon goes over to Scott Foster

[01:47:19] whoever the referee was last night.

[01:47:21] And he's like, yo,

[01:47:22] what am I supposed to do

[01:47:23] when LeBron is putting his shoulder into my chest?

[01:47:26] And you're like, oh well, you can't do this.

[01:47:29] And then later on the review happens.

[01:47:31] You didn't do what he told you not to,

[01:47:34] but yet they still give you the phone call.

[01:47:35] They still don't call you anyway.

[01:47:36] And you were like, yo,

[01:47:37] you told me not to do that.

[01:47:39] And I think that's the,

[01:47:40] I think that's the progressive piece

[01:47:42] that the mic stuff that we don't hear.

[01:47:43] I think some of it boils down to,

[01:47:47] remember we talked about this as well.

[01:47:50] A lot of things changed after the All-Star game.

[01:47:53] You know, like during the regular season

[01:47:55] and the early part of the season

[01:47:57] they were calling the tick tax,

[01:47:59] they were letting the flops go,

[01:48:00] they were doing all this stuff.

[01:48:02] Silver got pissed about the All-Star game.

[01:48:04] And then-

[01:48:05] He sent the message.

[01:48:06] I don't care cause even like I said,

[01:48:07] my dad hit me up.

[01:48:08] He was like, what's up with these scores?

[01:48:09] I'm like, man,

[01:48:10] Adam Silver is pissed about the All-Star game.

[01:48:12] Yeah.

[01:48:13] And so I think that this is still,

[01:48:16] unfortunately this is still a lingering effect

[01:48:18] of that as well.

[01:48:19] You know, where the refs are just

[01:48:22] on a different time right now.

[01:48:23] And like they say, players gotta adjust.

[01:48:26] You know what I mean?

[01:48:27] But you as the face of the league,

[01:48:30] best player in the league,

[01:48:31] in conversations for the greatest of all time,

[01:48:34] you know, I just feel like you do that

[01:48:37] more behind the scenes than in the press conference.

[01:48:40] Nah, you do it publicly.

[01:48:41] You feel Jackson's in master the move.

[01:48:44] Personally, I don't think they're gonna get any-

[01:48:46] Phil was a coach though.

[01:48:47] That's different.

[01:48:48] But Phil knew how to influence.

[01:48:50] Kobe did the same thing.

[01:48:51] Kobe knew how to use the influence.

[01:48:53] Shaq did the same thing.

[01:48:53] But if I was a ref,

[01:48:55] that would influence me.

[01:48:57] Like if it was like,

[01:48:58] I would just be like,

[01:49:00] as much as we let go with you,

[01:49:03] you gonna come out here and talk about us like this?

[01:49:06] And maybe we'll backfire.

[01:49:08] Maybe it won't.

[01:49:09] I mean, the way the league was declared-

[01:49:10] The league was in the way.

[01:49:12] Yeah, the way the Lakers play as is,

[01:49:14] they're gonna,

[01:49:16] they play closer to the bucket.

[01:49:17] They're 15 feet in for most of their shots,

[01:49:21] or less than a wide open three anyway.

[01:49:23] They're pulling up.

[01:49:24] So they're probably gonna get more foul calls

[01:49:27] or they're gonna get a consistent number of foul calls

[01:49:29] that they got one and two.

[01:49:31] Yeah, Shaq.

[01:49:33] The issue was like, I think the replay,

[01:49:35] the replay center and then their explanation was like,

[01:49:38] yo, this doesn't make any sense.

[01:49:40] And I can understand that piece.

[01:49:42] Would Joellen B was saying,

[01:49:43] as far as like calling the timeout,

[01:49:45] he didn't call the timeout.

[01:49:46] We have video every-

[01:49:47] Nick Nurse called the timeout.

[01:49:50] Nick Nurse had his hand in the air

[01:49:52] and then when Maxie traveled,

[01:49:53] because when you fall to travel,

[01:49:55] then they try to call the timeout

[01:49:56] with the ball is scrambling.

[01:49:58] And then on top of that,

[01:49:59] you had an offensive rebound opportunity

[01:50:03] that he didn't get because he couldn't jump.

[01:50:05] Right.

[01:50:06] So there's way more elements in that one sequence.

[01:50:11] Like I said,

[01:50:13] you're going home.

[01:50:13] Both teams are going home.

[01:50:15] You got an opportunity to make up for it.

[01:50:16] You did let a game slip.

[01:50:19] I think both teams,

[01:50:22] it could be one of those going back to that 2018 NBA finals

[01:50:28] when JR Smith grabbed that rebound

[01:50:30] and didn't put it back up

[01:50:32] and then went the overtime.

[01:50:33] It was like,

[01:50:34] I don't know if these underdogs

[01:50:39] could ramp it back up.

[01:50:40] Right.

[01:50:41] That's what I was going to say.

[01:50:42] I think that coming into the series,

[01:50:44] I had Nuggets in five.

[01:50:47] But yeah, after last night,

[01:50:52] the only way I can see the Lakers winning a game

[01:50:55] is if,

[01:50:56] coming in years-

[01:50:57] You're gonna look good with seven for nine again?

[01:50:59] No, coming in years.

[01:51:00] Like if we have one of those games

[01:51:02] where the Lakers shoot 31 three throws

[01:51:05] and Denver gets like five.

[01:51:06] You know what I mean?

[01:51:07] That's the only way that I see the Lakers getting a win.

[01:51:10] That's gonna be tough

[01:51:11] because Denver plays inside out just as well

[01:51:14] and any other team not in LA.

[01:51:17] Yeah, I know, but we've seen it before.

[01:51:19] Like,

[01:51:20] I don't know.

[01:51:21] Not the team that plays in Atlanta.

[01:51:23] I was just saying,

[01:51:23] we've seen games where

[01:51:25] we're like how did that team only get

[01:51:27] whatever number of free throws?

[01:51:29] We've seen it before.

[01:51:30] Oh, you talking about the Raptors coach

[01:51:32] when he's talking about how he only got two free throws.

[01:51:34] Yeah, like we've seen it before.

[01:51:36] You know what I mean?

[01:51:37] And then as far as Philly goes,

[01:51:40] if I'm Philly, I'm not hanging my head just yet.

[01:51:42] You know what I mean?

[01:51:43] I mean, you literally had the game one last night

[01:51:46] and you just miraculously found a way to lose that game.

[01:51:49] They were at five.

[01:51:50] How?

[01:51:51] They were at five.

[01:51:52] They were at five.

[01:51:53] Yeah.

[01:51:53] They were up five before Jalen Brunson let that ball go.

[01:51:57] Right.

[01:51:58] So like,

[01:51:59] and game one came right down to the wire as well.

[01:52:03] Whereas if you're the Lakers,

[01:52:05] Denver came back from double digits in both games

[01:52:08] and broke the hole.

[01:52:10] Derek Jones is not a smart basketball player.

[01:52:14] And then, you know, I'm happy on a good note

[01:52:17] because you know they always tell us to end on a good note.

[01:52:20] I am happy that Jalen Suggs is okay.

[01:52:23] You know, I was a little scared when he was getting

[01:52:26] carried off the court and everything like that.

[01:52:28] But sounds like he's gonna play just a strain.

[01:52:31] He's gonna play game three.

[01:52:33] Not that it matters anyway.

[01:52:35] Cleveland's gonna win this series.

[01:52:37] Like I said,

[01:52:38] I think they're just a mirror image of each other,

[01:52:40] but Cleveland has the player that Orlando doesn't.

[01:52:45] Boston's gonna have,

[01:52:48] Boston's gonna be the most most rested final NBA team ever.

[01:52:53] Yo, Boston, and I know,

[01:52:55] I know everybody's gonna say

[01:52:57] they took their foot off the gas and all that.

[01:53:00] Boston had a 34 point lead.

[01:53:04] And it was cut to 16.

[01:53:05] It got cut to 10.

[01:53:08] It got cut to 10 with the starters.

[01:53:11] Yes. The starters went back on the floor, yeah.

[01:53:14] Yeah, with about three minutes left,

[01:53:15] you know what I mean?

[01:53:17] And I feel you, Booty.

[01:53:19] I feel you, Buckeye.

[01:53:24] I feel you, man.

[01:53:30] That does hurt.

[01:53:32] That's how I felt with the Haney Garcia fight.

[01:53:34] I was like, I think Haney's got this.

[01:53:37] That's how I felt with Jay Paul.

[01:53:40] I was about to turn the TV off.

[01:53:41] And then I was like, you know what?

[01:53:44] I'm gonna stay up and then Ryan say, you know what?

[01:53:48] Cause Haney was keeping that hand up.

[01:53:50] He kept it right here after he got that first one.

[01:53:52] And then slowly started doing this.

[01:53:55] I was like somebody better tell him

[01:53:57] Haney's running thick ass fear of God, sweatpants, shorts.

[01:54:01] But yeah, that's how I felt about Jay Cole.

[01:54:03] You know what I'm saying?

[01:54:04] He was talking about this Falcon 9 going fly.

[01:54:06] I was ready and then like, I woke up

[01:54:09] and I saw the like, no, I don't wanna do this no more.

[01:54:12] So like, I know exactly how you feel.

[01:54:14] But Joe, we will be back Thursday.

[01:54:17] It will be draft night finally.

[01:54:19] It's not a myth.

[01:54:20] It's not a dream.

[01:54:21] It's really happening.

[01:54:23] We will be here, you know,

[01:54:24] we'll be here putting on for grandma, you know what I'm

[01:54:28] saying? You might have a throwback or two on or something.

[01:54:31] And we'll see you then.

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[01:54:41] Everybody staying with us is long time

[01:54:42] to detect the difficulties, two hour show.

[01:54:46] Yes sir.

[01:54:47] Close to football season.

[01:54:48] Our episodes will be longer.

[01:54:50] We're, you know, try to keep me short.

[01:54:52] We just had a great conversation there.

[01:54:53] Like me and Mike talked for like an hour before.

[01:54:56] Yeah.

[01:54:57] This could have easily been a three hour session,

[01:54:59] but we talked before about, you know,

[01:55:01] mirror the topics.

[01:55:02] But yeah, so...

[01:55:03] For sure I got some editing to do.

[01:55:05] So...

[01:55:07] Just go leave it in.

[01:55:08] I kept going.

[01:55:09] Just leave it in.

[01:55:10] Oh, okay.

[01:55:10] You left it.

[01:55:11] Yeah, I just kept going.

[01:55:12] I gotta make sure it stayed though.

[01:55:13] So we gotta...

[01:55:14] Okay.

[01:55:15] It still stayed live.

[01:55:16] So yeah, we're good to go.

[01:55:17] Yeah.

[01:55:18] So we'll check it out.

[01:55:19] But Joe, thank you everybody.

[01:55:20] See you on Thursday.

[01:55:22] We love you.

[01:55:23] Be safe out there.

[01:55:25] You know what I'm saying?

[01:55:26] You heard what Mr. Logical said,

[01:55:28] even if you get pulled over.

[01:55:31] You know, said if it's five times out of a hundred,

[01:55:33] don't complain.

[01:55:34] Don't complain.

[01:55:36] No, I said absolutely complain.

[01:55:37] Oh, absolutely complain.

[01:55:39] Absolutely complain.

[01:55:41] Peace y'all.