Is it Rigged?

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you are now listening to the sounds of Sports Reports As Ordered.

[00:00:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And now this is how it should be done.

[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Because this style is identical to none.

[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_01]: 2-5 Mr. Logical Jersey

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_01]: San Antonio

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We are more than Wimpy

[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Tonight we gonna talk a little bit about the NCAA wanting to pay players now

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: We gonna take a trip down memory lane and tell you how the NFL is rigged or is not rigged

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_01]: What's some scenarios that would have happened if it was rigged?

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_01]: We gonna talk about healing time, players that maybe should have sat out a little bit longer

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And they could have prolonged their careers or prolonged their legacies

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And then of course we gonna get this thing started

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Get it off my chest and it starts right now!

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_00]: MVP running is down to four players and these four players only

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_00]: They should not be adding any more players down to four players that is it

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: That is it

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I know MVP stands the most valuable player but we also have literally realized that it means most outstanding player

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So just because you're really valuable to your team does not mean you are the league MVP

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Trent Williams has a great value to San Francisco but he is not gonna get the MVP vote

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn Miller was very valuable to the Denver Championship run

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Even though Cam Newton because he was outstanding won the MVP award

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_00]: We keep using this word valuable when we get hung up on it

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: We get hung up on the semantics, you know potato, tomato, tomato, neither, neither all that other stuff

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_00]: The MVP award is the most outstanding, most electric player in the league

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Even in baseball, baseball is done a good job because they allow

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_00]: If you had 55 home runs and 135 RBI and your team went 70 and 92

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: They were like well let's do an outstanding, most outstanding season

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So six guys off the roof

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know of baseball counts though because you could not make the playoffs and get 700 million

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Because, hey listen, they care about real value

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_00]: They want to entertain the fans, the most is M-E-P-M-O-P

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not just value

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm eliminating six people off the rip and you can't argue with me to get them back on

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_00]: First Lamar Jackson, 9 MVP, take him off

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Jaylen Hertz, 9 MVP, take him off

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Josh Allen, 9 MVP, take him off the list

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Patrick Mahomes, 9 MVP this year, take him off the list

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Tua Tom Graveloa, 9 MVP, take him off the list

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Trevor Lawrence, 9 MVP, take him off the list

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That gives you four guys left

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Dak, Brock, Tyreek, Christian McCaffrey

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Those are the four dudes you have left as MVP

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_00]: They're the only guys having seasons that are way better than their contemporaries

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, you think I'm being a little outraised, you think I'm being a little mean?

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go to the passing stats for most of these quarterbacks

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Tua, 24 touchdowns, 10 picks

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Not a bad year, but that's the same as Jerry Goff with 21 and 10

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Records are pretty much the same

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Josh Allen, 25 picks or 25 touchdowns, 14 picks

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Also, Hanful of Phombs, I think he's up like six Phombs

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_00]: He's cost his team games because of those interceptions

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_00]: One game is an exception, he lost to the Jets, another game is Phombs

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: They're 7 and 6, can't be the MVP if you're the reason

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're the sole reason for six of your team's losses

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what else? I don't know if this is in your note or not

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But he's throwing a pick in nine straight games

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Just giving the ball away like Candy on October 31

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Patrick Mahomes, 23 touchdowns, 11 picks

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_00]: People want to give him credit for winning the Super Bowl

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_00]: With a subpar receiving group last year

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: This year is not the same, it's not his fault

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But you can't give him a pass because when you need to make plays he doesn't make plays

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: His team doesn't score points in the second half, 3-4 games in a row

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: How are you the most valuable player in the league if three weeks in a row

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Your team can't get points in the second half of football games

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't be MVP for multiple weeks in a row

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_00]: They score 17 points, they haven't scored over 24 points in weeks

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Except the one game against the Raiders

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Which me and 10 other people could probably get 16 points in the Raiders

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Trevor Lawrence

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Trevor Lawrence, 17-10

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: He just got over 10 touchdowns in the ninth game

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't be MVP when you play that many games

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_00]: As much as people throw the ball

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You throw the ball 35-40 times a game

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't get me 1.5 touchdowns per game in your first nine games

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You should be at like 16-18 touchdowns in nine games

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: If you throw the ball that much

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: With Christian Kirk, Ingram, Ridley, Zay Jones

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Trevor ATN who catches screen passes

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean like with Doug Peterson a former quarterback

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Who was a pass happy offense

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You should have more than nine touchdowns in the ninth game

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah he turned it on but he threw three picks last week

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't be an MVP running when you threw three picks and your team lost because of those three picks

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You're out

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Jaylen Hertz, 19 touchdowns, 10 picks

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: They talk about his 12-version touchdowns

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Well Swift gets you down to the one-yard line and you do the brotherly shove

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I personally watched him still at least what five or six talking to you

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That game against Minnesota on Thursday night

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: He stole like two

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_00]: He came against Minnesota, what other game did he stole?

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: He stole a couple more

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like one time when they called Swift down short

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_00]: A line of game out of goal line

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like okay

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Giving the ball back, nope, brotherly shove

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah he has a lot of touchdowns

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_00]: But like I said a lot of the work was done by somebody else

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Who else did I eliminate?

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I think those, I think that, oh and Lamar like I said Lamar's numbers are just like I'm not even like I'm starting to down that far on the list

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Lamar's numbers

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes he is doing a good job for Baltimore

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And he can be the Super Bowl MVP if they make their Super Bowl and he has a great game

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_00]: But as far as his season

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_00]: 16 touchdowns six picks

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_00]: This is post-media he's supposed to cook

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: He's supposed to do all this stuff with the pass game

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Gary to Greg Roman

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_00]: But really like does Baltimore look like a team that can put up 28 points consistently?

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That's his job, that's his side of the ball

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Defense is not supposed to score points

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Even though they do put him in position to score points

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_00]: 16 touchdowns six picks

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes he has some Russian touchdowns in a lot of yards

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: But that doesn't make MVP

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Because right above him you got Matthew Stafford with 19 touchdowns and nine picks

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Getting no MVP consideration

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You got Jordan Love with 23 touchdowns 11 picks

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Who else had that number?

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Who else had that stat line?

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh Patrick Mahomes 23 touchdowns 11 picks

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Jordan Love beat Patrick Mahomes

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah Patrick Mahomes getting MVP consideration

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And his team look is pedestrian

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But the guy who beat him has the same touchdown interception ratio

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So off the rip

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Kurt Cousins hadn't played in weeks

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Since he tore his ace

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's missed like the last five or six games

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Am I by right?

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_00]: He has 18 touchdowns five picks

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You mean to tell me his first seven or eight games, nine games

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: He has more passing touchdowns than Lamar and less interceptions

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And Trevor Lawrence

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And more touchdowns than Trevor Lawrence who's played all 13 games

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And he wasn't getting any MVP consideration when he was playing

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's down to four guys

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if the powers that be are going to have the balls to say

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo, it's only these four

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It's Dakota

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It's Brock

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It's Christian, it's Tyreek

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever order you want to put him in

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But those are your four guys

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Those guys are making a difference on their teams

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Those guys are making the defensive coordinators set up at night

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_00]: People trying to figure out how do we get Dak off his spot

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: How do we get Dak out of his groove

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_00]: How do we double team Tyreek

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Tyreek was looking over the wrong shoulder

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: But he was so wide open

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_00]: He had enough time to look over the other shoulder to catch the ball

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Every week

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_00]: From Tua who has a water pistol arm

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But yet he's still so wide open

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: That even Tua can get it out there to him

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's so wide open off the route

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I saw, I was watching Malin Humphrey's podcast

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And he said Tyreek running a double move is easier

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he normally runs by you so fast

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: That when he breaks down to do the double move

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You're still running full speed to catch up

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean?

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you don't run a double move

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He'll run right by you

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Christian McCaffrey

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Just game changer

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know Brock and Christian

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_00]: They might cancel out similar to a

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Steph and Katie cancel each other out

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_00]: For the points for votes in the NBA

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But he still needs to get more consideration

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially Tyreek who's a wide receiver

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Has never wanted Jerry Rice

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: What's the boy named

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Marva Harrison, Reggie Wayne

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Randy Moss

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_00]: All these great wide receivers that we had

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_00]: In the league that made these quarterbacks

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Terrell Dorado

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Terrell Owens has this as the feather in his cap

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_00]: This one was upset he was a third ballad all the famer

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Every single quarterback that he played with

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Had their career year

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_00]: When they played a full season with Tio on the roster

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_00]: These are facts

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_00]: This is the difference between a good wide receiver

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: A great one and a Hall of Fame caliber one

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Tyreek is having a Hall of Fame caliber MVP year

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And you got him behind a guy having an average year

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Quarterback

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Matter of fact, six guys have an average years

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Of quarterback

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Four guys are ahead of them

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that these six guys are even

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_00]: The same company as appalling

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Get rid of it

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Just give the quarterbacks their own award

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So go

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_00]: MQB

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_00]: MQB

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And then MOP

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Most outstanding player

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Most valuable quarterback

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that's what they're turning the MVP into

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Just making some separate awards

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Get somebody else to design something cute

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_00]: But those six guys are eliminated from the top 10

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_00]: In my opinion

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Give me those last four

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Dakota, Tyreek, Christian McCaffrey

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Brock Purdy

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_01]: See I hate awards

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And you knew me as 2-5

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Because of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I was probably 2-5

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably the greatest conversation I've ever had

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Because of awards

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So back in the day, 2010

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I was the one that wanted

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Adama Kinsu to win the Heisman Trophy

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Because of his impact on games

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Looking at this season

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I'ma throw a name out there that you ain't say

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But he can't win the MVP

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Because people will say he doesn't have the stats

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So I would like to vote for Miles Garrett

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_01]: 13 sacks, 4-4 fumbles

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_01]: They're down to Joe Flacco

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They had a DTR

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: They had PJ Walker

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And they just go with PJ Walker

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah they started 4 or 5 different quarterbacks this year

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So he and they're the number one defense in the league

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's the type of stuff that I value

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But given it to the actual candidates

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I hate to say it, I don't want to say it

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I was big on Dakota

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy that Dak is finally getting

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And he should be getting unfiltered support

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_00]: For the MVP

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's because he plays

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_00]: In the same

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: For the team that's owned by Jerry Jones

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And the fans, I know the fans making tough to like Dallas

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Or anything about Dallas

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: They were like I said

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever they finished their year this year

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_00]: They were 24 and 10 in the last two years

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's one for you

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So you made the comment that Trevor Lawrence

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Had 9 touchdowns and 9 games

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And his last 8 games

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Dak has 23 touchdowns and 2 interceptions

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so but last night

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So all season long we've been talking

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And I've been kinda

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I felt it but I know he can't win

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But I was like Tyree Kill

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Tyree Kill especially if he ends up breaking

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_00]: He should be in a position

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_00]: The Vonte Smith won the Heisman

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_00]: When McCorkle was having a great year throwing it to everybody

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But they recognized like this guy

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Is the reason that everybody else is open

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Tyree is the reason

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought he should have won it

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But nothing got in his way

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Marvin Harrison just finished fourth the other day

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So it was like you have to recognize that when

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Tyree does that little

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_00]: When he's airing that little bunch formation

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: The left or the right

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_00]: He just runs sideways to the sideline

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: That shouldn't impact you defensively

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: When your defense is going this way

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: If this guy's running out like this

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And your whole defense on that side of the field

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Does either this

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_00]: They adjust

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Someone does this

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Something happens to where

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You have to adjust to that

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Tyree throws it to A'Chane

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Or Waddle or somebody on the other side

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Or just hands the ball off

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing happened to Tyree

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And three defenders and a defensive coordinator

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Are screaming their heads off to adjust what's going on

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And he literally doesn't touch the ball

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what it means

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to do the thing where we reduce everything down to one game

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Or where we reduce everything down to the most current game

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But last night was a perfect example

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Tyree Hill got hurt in the second quarter

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Or first quarter actually

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Hurt his ankle

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Came out the game

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Miami did not score an offensive touchdown

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Until the fourth quarter when he was back in the game as a decoy

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, their only touchdown last night up until that point

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Was a pick six of a screen pass

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is the top offense in the league

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's obviously, as they say

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: The straw that stirs that drink, you know

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I like that one

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So for me, Tyree Hill is the MVP

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: At one point I had Jaret Golf as the MVP early in the season

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But now he's reared his ugly head if you will

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So to speak, Paul

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I had him because I felt as if

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Because like I said, when I run down these numbers

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, these are my why I was hearing numbers

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But when you run down the numbers

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: They want... it's like

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_00]: The pundits, the talking heads want you to ignore

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_00]: That I'm using raw numbers to make my point

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I being the talking head pundit who is advocating for Tua

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Advocating from her homes, advocating for Josh Allen

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And they'll use the raw numbers

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Lamar

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_00]: What about the fact that, you know

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Matthew Stafford's numbers are just as good as Lamar's

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh no, no, no, it's not the same

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, you're using the raw numbers

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_00]: If you don't, if you take away the raw number element of it

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: If the numbers are substantially better

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the year that Lamar won MVP

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he led the league

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: He was a rushing threat

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And he led the league in passing touchdowns

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like somewhere in the mid 30s, 35s, 36s, something like that

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: In a year where most quarterbacks get around 40

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Recently he was, he led the league

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: As quote unquote a running quarterback

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_00]: In touchdown passes

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So that is the outstanding element of the V

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_00]: That people are trying to incorporate

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's not really a value, it's more outstanding

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, like so to think

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_00]: With Miles Garrett, the thing with Miles Garrett

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_00]: He has an opportunity to definitively win

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Defensive player of the year

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_00]: That can't be taken from him

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Because there is an award specifically for his side of the ball

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas the MVP, it should be for any position

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: We just know it's been kind of steered towards

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_00]: The signal quarterback

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Of the 22 positions

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Or the 22

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is why MVP is stupid

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: This is why MVP is stupid

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Because going off of what you were saying

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: About how Stafford's numbers are similar to Lamar's

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's missing, I think he missed a game as well

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Missed a couple of games

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't run, he doesn't seem to threat

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_00]: His team isn't as good

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have a team

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you mentioned Jordan Love as well

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_00]: His team is 4-3-4-3-4-4 to me

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_00]: 4-3-4 to me, I believe

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Or 5-12

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_00]: If you had him 5-4

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I had 4-13

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_00]: They're in the playoff run

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But even with Jordan Love

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Better numbers than Lamar

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But their teams are both 6 and 7

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas Lamar's team is 10 and 3

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So take away the record

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you 10 and 3 because he threw 16 touchdowns?

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Or are you 10 and 3 because people can't throw on you defensively?

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I know that this past week they're 1-0

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Because Tylen Wallace ran a 76 yard punt return

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: For a touchdown in overtime

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So take that with that as you will

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah it's a team game

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, I get that there is a value to having a top play quarterback

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I think people kind of confuse having

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Because we've seen a game where

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Trying to think of like

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay I'll use the Chicago

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_00]: The Chicago cheese game early this year

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_00]: The cheese, I don't think they punt it

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_00]: With Patrick Mahomes in their quarterback

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I think by the time Blaine Gabber got in the game

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_00]: The score might have been

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I would say 41

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like 41-10 or something like that

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah it was something ridiculous

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Blaine Gabber gets in the game

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was like the last

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Either the whole fourth quarter

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Or probably late in the third when he got in

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_00]: He ended up throwing a pick

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Patrick Mahomes was throwing just bombs all game

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And just killing Chicago

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So there is a difference between your backup guy

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_00]: There is a drop off

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a drop off between having a top play quarterback

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You can say what you want

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_01]: But I know that you know

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_01]: That Lamar Jackson has a pro bowler behind him

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Tyler, have you ever seen each other?

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yo, but yo get it off my chest

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_01]: See that right there

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about them one more time

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So we all heard

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_01]: About the screwing heard around the world

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Florida State left out of the playoffs

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I came on sports reports

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Ordered with Mr. Logical

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And I said

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_01]: What the college football committee did

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Was effectively kill the ACC

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Now

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_01]: We're a week later

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And what did I see on Friday?

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw an article

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: People saying that Florida State is having a

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Board meeting on January 31st

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And even blue blood bias on Twitter

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying, he got the blue check

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying, blue blood bias on Twitter

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Came through and said

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_01]: That people think that Florida State

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Within the next month is going to be in the big 10

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So just what we thought we were done with realignment

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Here we are all over again

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is the thing

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully Florida State has done their due diligence

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I'm sure they have if they're going to try to make this move

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Because we all know that the grant of rights

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And the ACC don't run out until 2036

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So what that means

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that if Florida State goes to another conference

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And that isn't worked out

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_01]: They get no money for any of their home games

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Until 2036

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So if they join the big 10

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The big 10 can't benefit

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_01]: From the FSU home game revenue

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Until 2036

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Unless they got the lawyers working this out

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Now we were told that it takes a certain amount of schools

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: If we could get six or seven schools to leave the ACC

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Then that might go out the window

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But the early estimates was

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_01]: At the beginning of this season

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Florida State would have left next year

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_01]: To go to the big 10

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It would have been something along the lines of $300 million

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: When you factor in

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_01]: The grant of rights along with the exit fee

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That they were going to owe the ACC

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So what does that mean?

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That means

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: What's Clemson up to?

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_01]: You know partners in crime

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_01]: What's North Carolina up to?

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Basketball central

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know don't forget about Duke

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what's these Virginia schools plotting

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So if FSU takes that leap

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Then the ACC will effectively die

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_01]: On top of that

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_01]: What does that do to Notre Dame

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Whose basketball is in the ACC

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And contractually they play five ACC games a year

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_01]: That's cool

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: When you're playing Clemson

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_01]: When you're playing Florida State

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe even if you're playing Louisville

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're playing say SMU

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: In Georgia Tech

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_01]: In UVA

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't quite hit the same

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: No

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So if Florida State decides to take this leap

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_01]: The domino is going to start all over again

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So with that being said

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Former Governor Clark

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You know Charlie Clark

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The new president of the NCAA

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You now got to double check myself

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: You know because I keep messing up his name

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to make sure I got that right

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You know the NCAA has now

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Talking about proposing a new football subdivision

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: In this subdivision there comes rules

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And guidelines that volunteer schools

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to volunteer to be a part of this

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that they are going to be Charlie Baker

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry there you go Charlie Baker

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Former Governor of Massachusetts

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He was talking about this new subdivision

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Right now it's just an idea

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not in stone just an idea

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's being talked about

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But I got some thoughts on why it's being talked about

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So under this subdivision

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_01]: The initial thoughts are

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_01]: That each school that's a part of the subdivision

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Has to pay at least

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_01]: They have to put at least $30,000

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_01]: In a trust fund

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_01]: For half of their athletes

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So not half the football team

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Half the athletes in the school

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Then of course you get into title nine

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And all that kind of stuff too

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_00]: $30,000 for the swim team

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_00]: The 150 meter swimmer

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Well at least half of the athletes

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_01]: At least half of the athletes

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: At least half

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah so in IEL

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Would get removed from the collectives

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And placed into the hands of the school

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm out

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Now

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Before I let Mr. Logic go

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Before I let Mr. Logic go

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me tell you

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Why I think this is happening

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So all over the last 10 to 15 years

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_01]: We've been talking about

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_01]: The Big Ten and the SEC

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Splitting off doing their own thing

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_01]: AFC, NFC style

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Which would toss the NCAA in the bushes

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But the NCAA has something very valuable

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_01]: That they don't want to let go of

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_01]: You might have heard of it

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_01]: It's called March Madness

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_01]: March Madness keeps the NCAA afloat

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It keeps the NCAA relevant

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So now if you give these schools

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_01]: The autonomy to go make their own decisions

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Decide how many scholarships they want to give out

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Decide what the playoff looks like

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Can a school that's not in the subdivision

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Get into playoff

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Does the new

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Does what we know is FBS

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you take the SEC and whoever

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_01]: To this new subdivision

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Does a school like Vanderbilt

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Become the new FCS

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And they become the cupcake game

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That you play before your arrival now

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But here's some numbers for you real quick

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Ohio State for example

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_01]: If they would have played under this rule

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Where they have to pay half the athlete 30,000

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It would cost them

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_01]: $15 million per year

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And last year Ohio State made

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_01]: As a total athletic department

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_01]: $250 million

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's from Shahan J. Rajha

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I hope I'm saying your name right from CBS Sports

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know now with that being said

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Back in November

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: This went under the radar

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: There was Grant House, a swimmer from Arizona State

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Took the NCAA to court

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Over NIL damages because

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_01]: The collectives are paying these kids

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But they ain't getting none of the TV money or any of that

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So this judge, Claudia Wilkin

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Decided that these athletes

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Should be backpaid

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Through 2016

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: From the time you signed the TV deal

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think the NCAA

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_01]: For one is just trying to stay alive

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't care about these kids

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna end up settling it out of court

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure in this case

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But what they're trying to do

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Is not have the SEC, Big Ten and whoever else

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Leave

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And leave them as a finger to pass

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know as like I said me and Mr. Locke

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Locke, Mr. Too-Five here

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_00]: We come with these conversations

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_00]: We can't take credit for this particular one

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_00]: He sent it to me from a podcast called

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Until Saturday

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: They were talking about the proposed subdivisions

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Nicole R. Beck, you know Power Hour

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So I

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm kind of boring with my arguments

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_00]: But they're articulate

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: They're real thought out

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe in them

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll argue the merits of them

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Ultimately, I keep it very simple

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_00]: When something looks fishy

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Or someone's trying to make a drastic change

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Follow the money

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_00]: People move for money

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_00]: People sell their homes for money

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_00]: People family relationships fall apart

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of time it's money

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And you can say oh it's unexpected

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, uncommunicated expectations

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's cool

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of that still involves money

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: What was your expectations with this money?

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the NCAA

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Is one of those organizations

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_00]: That will do whatever when it comes to money

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like the professional aspect

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Of like these avenues

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to create for college sports

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Because if we look at our own

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Professional sports examples

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a lot of support

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_00]: For the player

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_00]: In these professional organizations

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_00]: If you had an opportunity

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Watch Brook

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_00]: The 30 for 30 special Brook

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Where NFL players talk about

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Playing games and

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you play for the Cowboys

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So you get your A to 9 home games

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that was 17 games

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no state tax in Texas

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you play a game in Chicago

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_00]: If you play a game in New Jersey

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: The NBA and Toronto

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_01]: They get taxed by a whole different country

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you play the Jets and the Giants one year

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The Jets are going to get that tax

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_00]: If you play a game in New York

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_00]: New Jersey

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: So you play Buffalo

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: You play Buffalo

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Say you got a game where you play Buffalo

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_00]: The Jets, the Giants

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_00]: The 40 dollars

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And the Rams and the Chargers

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_00]: For whatever reason that's how your schedule worked out

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You're getting taxed so heavy

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm a college kid

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm signing a professional contract with my college

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm a kid who plays in Texas

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm playing the game against USC

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they're in the big...

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they're in the SEC

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_00]: But we got that match up now

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Or you got these kids from Louisiana

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Playing games against UCLA

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's just like the money aspect of the professional sports

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Has been such a detriment

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_00]: That I think turning college sports into professional

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Is just a bad idea

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_00]: They can simply make it

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: More affordable for the student-athlete

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_00]: To go to school

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And then give them a reasonable stipend

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_00]: For their efforts

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I get that you would want

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_00]: A full percentage and argue that

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_00]: To do that, they're gonna come back with this other stuff

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You're a student-athlete

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_00]: If your sport generates money for the school

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Then you go to school for free

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_00]: If you get injured

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And you can't play for the team

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You get to finish out at the school

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Unless you want to transfer

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of making everything about money

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Making it about, okay

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: What can I do for you going forward?

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Because we're gonna pay you

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna make sure you get your scholarship

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Squared away

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna get an opportunity to do your NIL

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Keep the schools out of it

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Because once it's being regulated by this

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if I'm arguing and advocating for myself

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_00]: To get my Instagram deal

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Or if I'm advocating for myself

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_00]: To get this car dealership deal

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Or a local pizzeria

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Then that's a deal between me and a local pizzeria

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_00]: NCAA, you don't need any part of that money

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You're already getting the billion dollar TV deal

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Stay out of here

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Get the players straight

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Get the swimming straight

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Get the soccer players squared away

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: With the academics

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_00]: That's your involvement in their life

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_00]: To provide them academics

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Let them work their own NIL deals

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Because if the NIL deals go through the school

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, like if you think about gymnastics

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen gymnastics on TV

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Hardly ever

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Olivia Dunn at LSU

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Is probably one of the top NIL earners in America

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_00]: The Cavender twins

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They played in Miami

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they played in Fresno State

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_00]: They are up there at the top

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Brawny James before he even got to USC

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Now if you took all of that away

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And now your NIL deal has worked through the school

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's worked based on how well

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they'll give you some like

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, how many people watch gymnastics

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, I don't care

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty and I can go to Instagram

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And I can make money up

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna get $30,000

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm getting $7 million

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It ain't for everybody to get $7 million

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Life ain't fair

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Wear a helmet

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So if I can get out here

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm handsome

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm cute

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm pretty

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I could flip

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Or I shoot jump shots

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Or I can swim

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Or I just have a great personality

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Barstool wants to pay me

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I do a weekly podcast

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm also a college basketball player

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Male or female

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Then that's the money I get

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you let it go through the school

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_00]: The school is gonna regular to the point where

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_00]: They are going to get their cut off the top

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're gonna give crumbs

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_00]: So the players like they were doing before

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_00]: When they were getting paid under the table

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They knew these dudes were getting paid on the table

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_00]: They knew these kids 19 years old

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Should be driving new escalators of practice

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So here's some more numbers

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So I gave you the Ohio State side of it

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Where it would be $15 million per year

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_01]: For them to follow this plan

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, but a lot of the athletes

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_01]: This is from the same CBS article

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of the athletic departments

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Departments around the country

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Have a little bit over 400

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Student athletes or scholarship athletes

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Across at least, you know

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_01]: 20 sports, you know, vary

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_01]: By school, you know

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of these schools would

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Pay something along the lines of $6 million

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So goodbye, Akron

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Goodbye Kent State

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, goodbye

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody's AAC in Mountain West schools

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Wyoming or somebody like that

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But where this judge

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Shook the foundation of the NCAA

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Not only did she say

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That the back pay should go back to 2016

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_01]: This affects

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_01]: 6000 college football players

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And more than 7000 college basketball players

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So we haven't even got to

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_01]: The Title IX part of it yet

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I don't know how all that's going to work

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you know

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Like outside of women's college basketball

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure what other

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Women's sports

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess, I don't know if I want to say

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Pushes the needle or drives the needle

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know what other women's sports

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Would have that argument

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_01]: That a lot of the men's sports have

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So the NCAA is just trying

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_01]: To save themselves

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And exist

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_01]: When we look back at it

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Because now with the sub-division

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're just trying to take control

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Because

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what it is

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want to lose control

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they've lost control

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the NIL deals

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Are going to be that grant for everybody

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Because everybody's not a brand

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Shadoer Sanders is a brand

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Because his dad is Dion Sanders

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: If Shadoer Sanders was a coach

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Of a kid of a coach

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_00]: That's still, you know, a coach in Texas

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And he played the way he played

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_00]: At Colorado this year

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he rolls it to next year

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_00]: With 6 to 8 million dollars

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Or 10 million dollars in NIL deals

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_00]: He has that because he's connected to Dion

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not knocking his talent

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you gotta remember

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You gotta remember though

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_01]: The NCAA has

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_01]: They're a bully when it comes to these other sports

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But college football

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Has the ability to stand

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Without the NCAA

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what college basketball

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Even men's college

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what college basketball looks like

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_01]: If there's no NCAA

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But college football, SEC, ACC, whoever

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_01]: They can just walk away from the NCAA

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they will position themselves

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_00]: To just be expendable

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, it's not that

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm saying, so right now

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_01]: The NCAA can come down and suspend Jim Harbaugh

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_01]: For example

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And when that whole situation was going on

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of the talk was

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, what if Harbaugh just says no?

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_01]: What if the NCAA says

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You're suspended for three games

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Harbaugh just says no

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Like what can the NCAA really do about it?

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's where you get into that

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Where football probably has enough money

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That they've outgrown the NCAA now

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So in the subdivision

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, if this happens

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to decide how many scholarships

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Right now the NCAA tells them

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_01]: 85 is your scholarship limit

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But if they break off and do the subdivision thing

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Even though it's still under the NCAA

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_01]: The schools will decide how many scholarships

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_01]: The schools will decide who makes the playoff

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, like I said

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_01]: As far as March Madness goes

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_01]: What if these schools decide it?

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, hey, these schools aren't planning the subdivision

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not in the NCAA tournament either

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_01]: No more St. Peter's over Kentucky

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, no more, uh, you know

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_01]: T-neck, you know, no more T-neck over Purdue

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Fairly dickish, you know what I mean

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I just...

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Without being in the room

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: With these conversations

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And understand fully the leverage that the NCAA has

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Because if you factor in

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_00]: They've been in charge of the money

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_00]: For as long as they have

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It just seems unlikely that some of this new money

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That's coming through

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Will garner enough leverage

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you gotta remember these

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_01]: These conferences are getting money from TV

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not getting money from the NCAA

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And the NCAA doesn't pool that money

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_00]: The NCAA is a nonprofit organization

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_00]: That's been getting money tax-exempt forever

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Since this inception

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So they're like Rockefeller money

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't... Like this Alabama money

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't even take the NCAA to court

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: They have long...

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_00]: They probably own

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Some of the stadiums that these teams play at

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, all I know is...

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_00]: The NCAA have more financial leverage

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think they'll be able to use more of that

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But you gotta remember though

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The NCAA doesn't sponsor

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_01]: The college football playoff

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they sponsor much madness obviously

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But they don't have control over the college football playoff

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the Big Ten just signed

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_01]: This $7 billion TV deal

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Through 2031

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The NCAA doesn't touch any of that

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_00]: As far as we would think

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But I find that hard to believe

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_00]: That the National Collegiate Athletic Association

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't have their hand in the TV money

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Of these different conferences

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It just... I just don't...

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they would set themselves up that way

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_00]: To not get any of that money

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it would be irresponsible

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they would have a choice

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That's between ESPN and the Big Ten

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_00]: They've had the financial edge

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like that

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Making a deal

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_00]: To be... to wear his Cowboys uniform

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And the Campbell's Chunky Soup commercials

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And Jerry Jones doesn't get a cut

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I get... that's my uniform

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting a cut of this

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting a cut of everything

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Every can they get sold

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting a cut of that

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm in NCAA

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You're under the NCAA umbrella

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You signed this deal

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting a cut of that

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And if that is true

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_00]: If we signed a bar stool

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And we've got a deal with like

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm drinking Crown of Roya right now

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_00]: We signed a bar stool next year

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's make it happen

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Brandon Walker, what up?

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Casey Smith, hey!

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So then they see me

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody sees me drinking Crown of Roya

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And then they call us directly

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Bar stool is going to get a cut

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Of this Crown of Roya deal that we get next year

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Because we... they are the umbrella that we're under

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And I understand

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I think what it is that

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe the transfer portal

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the players have in power

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Is maybe putting some fear

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_00]: In the people who are used to being like

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Autonomous with their control

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't want these players to be

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Employees

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you better do something about their education

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And make them

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And treat them like student athletes

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And really rockin'

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of the transfer portal real quick

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Since you brought it up

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Nebraska, what have you got going on?

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know everybody's talking about Colorado

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you know Coach Prom out here

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Getting the Office of Lyman

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He's doing it, you know

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Nebraska is getting allegedly

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_01]: About to get Kyle McCord

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And Dylan Riola from Georgia

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But Dylan Riola's from Nebraska

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I know

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_00]: That's easy recruit

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_00]: All you gotta do is send him a girlfriend

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_00]: You know how many Air Force recruiters I knew?

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I had Air Force recruiters that told me

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_00]: He was like, listen man

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I stopped... he's like I stopped

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Recruiting girls that didn't come back

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_00]: To my office multiple times

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he was like I got burned

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Because boyfriends wouldn't want their girlfriends to leave

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Another friend of mine

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like I'd have guys that would

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Get up to the week of

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And decide they didn't want to go

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they didn't want to leave a girl behind

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they didn't trust their boys around this girl

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_00]: So you can get people

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You can influence people

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, a lot of different ways

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I know Louisville did it to a very nefarious level

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Back in the day with Rick Petino

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But some people get homesick

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we did the Air Force

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_00]: We got over 40 years combined

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I know a lot of people that

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I know a guy right now

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably has the opportunity to go

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_00]: PCS and retrain, re-enlist

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Retrain, go see the rest of the world

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But he's from Jersey

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like man

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I go to my mom's house every weekend

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I eat dinner at my mom's house

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Every weekend Saturday or Sunday

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_00]: She's like an hour or so from here

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like I like the job I do here

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And I also get to see my mom every week

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you got a guy that's

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Because back in the day

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You know the high school recruits

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You ain't gonna do it from Florida

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_00]: To even go to Oklahoma really

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You might get a guy from Texas

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Go to Oklahoma

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You might get a guy from Oklahoma

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Go to Texas

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But for the most part

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Bobby Bowden was recruiting

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_00]: The Panhandle

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I got everybody here

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm recruiting

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_00]: These 17 neighborhoods right here

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I got these guys to stand

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Same thing in Virginia

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I remember when I was in high school

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Michael Vick, Todd Water

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_00]: They were like yo

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Go to Virginia Tech or UVA to play sports

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Guys didn't go to Florida

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Percy Harvins probably one of the first guys

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I really remember that was like a top athlete

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_00]: That didn't go to Virginia Tech

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Out of Virginia

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_00]: He went to Florida

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But as a TV and everything started to expand

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So like I think it's some guys

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you know what

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to be at home

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what Matt rule

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they have going on in Nebraska

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I think I might have driven through there once

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I know I drove to Kansas

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You ain't seen nothing unless you went near Omaha

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Which the university isn't even near Omaha

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But the portals live right now

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You know Dillon, Gabriel to Oregon

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You know we got Tyler Van Dyke

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: From Miami now

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Going to Wisconsin

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Duke Riley went to Notre Dame

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Riley Leonard, yep

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_01]: He went to Notre Dame

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Why did I say Duke Riley?

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he went to do

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a hell of a badass name though Duke Riley

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That's like

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Former linebacker got drafted out of LSU

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_00]: By the Falcons played for Miami

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_00]: He plays Miami now

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw him in the game last night

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You got Kentucky picking up Vandengrift

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: From Georgia

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Who was supposed to have next

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But then Carson Beck came through

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And crushed the buildings

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know Kentucky also grabbed Chip

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even going to try to say his last name

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Trayum from Ohio State

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_00]: As a father of an upcoming high school athlete

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm pretty sure he's gonna have

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_00]: These college double aspirations

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to get this game going on my iPad

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But the stream is not popping right now

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Now Warriors kicking ass so you know

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know like

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like what do I tell him?

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Like hey man just wait it out

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Or as far as

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if he gets it

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause right now he's a freshman in high school

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_00]: So he has time

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_00]: But by the time he gets to college

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And that recruiting aspect of it

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be chaos

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like with the grandmother

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_00]: What's the guy named Dante

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Dante Moore

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Dante Moore out of UCLA

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you go somewhere and play for three years

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Or do you really

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Joe Burrow had two hot two years

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_00]: One year was good, one year was hot

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And he went number one

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like do you really need like

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_00]: What's the guy named with the rice?

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_00]: JT Daniels

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_00]: JT Daniels this is like his fifth school

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Georgia, USC

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_00]: West Virginia

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_00]: West Virginia Rice

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's still not an NFL prospect

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Not on anybody's

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Well that's why I asked you last week

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're a quarterback like say Dylan Gabriel

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You know like do you follow

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean he went to Oregon but

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you follow Jeff Levy to Mississippi State

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Your office coordinator you shined in that system

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Or do you go somewhere else and show

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm not a system dude

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I can be flexible or versatile

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I think you have to

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're honest with yourself

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You have to have a good board of directors

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Around you somebody tells you like listen

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Dylan Gabriel is 5'11

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, preacher is a good quarterback

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_00]: He was able to beat Texas number three team in the country

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_00]: There's, I had a 14 year old

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Sleeper in a hallway that's over six foot already

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_00]: He's 14

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_00]: He's not even like a prime like he wants to play quarterback

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_00]: But there's so many guys that are going to just fit

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_00]: The prototype

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And the NFL watching

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You're watching guys like Calamari

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Bryce Young

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Baker Mayfield

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Bailey Zapp

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You're watching all these small guys

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_00]: The NFL is like man this is not worth it

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going back to my 6'2 1.5, 6'3

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Mobile

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I want the NFL is going to want more guys that are

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_00]: That move more like Aaron Rodgers

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And less like Calamari

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, apparently Aaron Rodgers is a clear Christmas Eve

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_01]: To you know resume contact I guess

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why you would like we're getting to that in our healing conversation

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So the transfer portal is like

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be replaced

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I think someone has to tell you when you're young like yeah

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You're replaceable every year

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Depends on what school you go to because Alvin Camara was in the same running back room

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Mark King room

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_00]: D.J. Yeldon

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Eddie Lacey

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_00]: What's the boy named Trent Richardson

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Trent Richardson

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Alvin Camara like when you went to your visit

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And you looked and saw

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Why?

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Why'd you commit to Alabama

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Unless you plan on like listen I'ma go here

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a workout for a year

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just I'm good riding the band

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You got to be real with yourself and be like I'm willing to play linebacker

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm willing to play linebacker corner safety

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Or just work out and just get in the best shape of my life

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And get screamed at by Nick Saban and get go through all the drills

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_00]: For this year and not play any football

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you're a fifth string running back in any program

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_00]: UCF, USF, USCE

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the likelihood of you getting real mama made it kind of playing times

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Unlikely even if a couple of guys go down

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_00]: The team is probably more likely to get a corner

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That came to school two years before you as a ready back

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And give him the ball

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I see that happening about such high school was like

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_00]: They had this corner they were like you know what

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_00]: We need some speed at the ready back position

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's a senior

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll have him play corner and run it back

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_00]: What is other guy heels is like you have a two freshman running back

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Just play them

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Nah, I'm not doing that

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So I just I just feel like I don't know

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know I don't know what to tell you

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_00]: As far as like hey dad I want to transfer

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Is like what are your guarantees like is anything written

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Like did this coach say hey come here you're going to be my day one starter

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Or did he say hey come here you can compete

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you're better off staying where you are

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I already said, yep

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So and you know and then of course you know

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Keeping the college football going

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You know we got Manny Diaz

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_01]: The new head coach at Duke

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Replacing Mike Elko you know

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Famously of Miami Hurricane head coaching fame

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Even though Florida State is Alma mater

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's a whole other story

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You know father was the mayor of Miami at one point

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He's last seen up in Happy Valley

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Defensive coordinator for Penn State

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He's coming over to Duke now so you know

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I like it you know we'll see

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to win a lot of games there

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_01]: In his first two years and somebody else is going to come scoop him up

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course Tulane lost Willie Fritz to Houston

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_01]: As we talked about last week

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But now Tulane has a new head coach

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_01]: John Summerall from Troy you know who I thought was going to get the Duke job

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So you know this is how Mike Brains work like

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_00]: This is not something we discussed he just was like boom I got all this college football

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about college football might as well just say it

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_00]: College football names positions

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's still like honestly it's still amazing

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I sit back and I'm like I'm a fan for these segments when you go on around

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I hear the names and I hear the positions

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And I hear we had conversations about like oh these guys moving here this is available

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know I just think that in this modern

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You know gratification age of

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_00]: The dings and the the the Twitter alerts and everything else

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that people just feel like I got to be out there I got to get it quick

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's a grind and if realistically if you look at it

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_00]: All these dudes transferring they're not going anywhere

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Most of you guys aren't going to league like Jake Daniels

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_00]: He has probably like the greatest

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You should transfer videos when his team was like oh he sucked anyway

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he goes to another school and wins the high

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And he was probably one of the most outstanding players in college football

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_00]: The game he threw forward 300 yards and ran forward 250 yards

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_00]: They should have stopped doing Heisman

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Votes right there like that was it that was a game

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Same thing with Reggie Bush against Fresno State when he stopped on the left side line

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Started step and then cut back across the field and scored a touchdown

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought Vince Young was the Heisman but that was the moment

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_00]: They're like this dude is the Heisman trophy winner

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Adrian Peterson to the one Heisman but he was a freshman and freshman

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Then he went back then but it was clearly he was the best player in college football

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah so

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't remember

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_00]: The transfer reporter could work it could work if you if you pick the wrong school at first

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_00]: If the like I said we live in Jersey

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_00]: If he says you know what I want to go to

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to go to Penn State it's not that far I want to go to Penn State

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_00]: My son goes to Penn State and he goes there for a year and he doesn't like it

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like I'm gonna come back to Rutgers and Shiano's still there and they let him throw the ball over the place

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Once he get a taste of James Franklin not throwing the ball deep he going to want to get out of there

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah so it was like you know whatever you're getting told

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just all I'm saying is like just be prepared for the next move

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like just prepare yourself for the next move so you're not caught off guard

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Phoenix is making a game of it at least as far as my stream

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah you know like you know this is the

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_01]: What second or third game Bradley Beale has played and Kevin Durant is out with ankle injury so

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I know I said 37 and 45 and I might have been you know a little bit hyperbolic but

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I do not think they are viable threats

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I think that's part of the problem is that they don't have any time together

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_01]: We're already you know 20 games into the season and they haven't played

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_00]: 12 and 9 or so much

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_01]: They haven't played a game all three at the same time yet

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So we still don't even really know you know how it looks

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You know and yes right now the stars are 12 and 10

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_00]: 12 and 10 if they get 30 games together theoretically they can

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I could see a 20 and 10

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Well that's what happened last year right like Durant came over everybody was like

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh they're like 8-0 when they play together and then they ran into Denver

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That's just how it goes

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like this is just not meant to be

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know but dude the Spurs

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You know loses a 17 in a row

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo I don't know I remember hearing the buzz with Winby

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And I wasn't buying it

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_00]: It was the same way I wasn't buying it with Chet Hongren

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Bulbul

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Christoph Rosengas is like

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_00]: At some point man

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You gotta bump into somebody else

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't just be tall

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the people are enamored with tall

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I think we have at this point we have 46 presidents

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe 44 of them have been over 6 feet tall

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_00]: We're just enamored with tall

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_00]: If you are on social media at all

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You see these videos of women saying I want a man that's 6 feet tall

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_00]: At least 6 feet tall, big $100,000 and works out doesn't have kids

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Well that's like 0.25% of the population between the ages of 25 and 40

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So good luck

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But everyone's just enamored with tall

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And I probably brought this up before this movie called Comet Just-Along's Character

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Was talking to a guy in line

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And Just-Along's Character was kind of like

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say he's on the spectrum but he's one of those guys that said what was on his mind

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And the guy was talking

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like I just kind of assume you don't have a lot of personality because you're tall and handsome

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And you've probably never had to develop a personality throughout your entire life because it was all handsome

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think sometimes these NBA players they come on

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone tell them how great they're going to be

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like yo, you weigh the same as like

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Texas high school linebackers

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You need to be stronger than this

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Because AD is 6'10 1.5, 6'11

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like 270

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yokeage is like 270, 280

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Nurkage is 7'2 80

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And B, 7'2 8

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you can't be 7'5 out here trying to guard

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Bradley Bill in a wing

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like na na na

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You need to be down here

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not like

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You're in his other guys

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Well that's not like you know

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Bob Mani Jones always has the conversation of like

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you big man or tall man?

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You know like two different things

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Why do you do the tall man?

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yo

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And I fell we talk about sports all the time a couple years ago

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Was it a Aryan Foster that came out talking about the NFL and the script

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And everybody started going nuts thinking that the league was rigged

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And we were just sitting around just spitting ballin' and we were just like yo

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_01]: The league would look a whole lot different if it was really scripted

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just I understand when I hear

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they're talking about the NBA

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And as well as the NFL

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about it

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_00]: The matchups

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Who would you rather see?

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Would you want to see a San Antonio Milwaukee NBA final

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Or an LA Miami NBA final

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Well see I think basketball is different though

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Same thing with the NFL

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The NFL is like

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Would you rather see

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Right now

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Right now the playoff run realistically

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Includes Gardner Benchio and Indianapolis Colts

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And it includes

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_01]: The Texans

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_00]: The Texans

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you got Baker Mayfield

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And even Desmond Ritter

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And even the Saints

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And the Saints

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So you're Super Bowl

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Just because it just happens to play out this way

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's Gardner Benchio and Indianapolis Colts

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Versus Baker Mayfield and Tampa Bay Buccaneers

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_00]: In Vegas

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_00]: That would be hilarious

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You can probably sell tickets at the hotels in Vegas

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And fill the stadium

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I think Allegiant Stadium is like

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It's probably like 70, 80,000 seats

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But see I think the NBA is different though

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Because the Super Bowl itself is a spectacle

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You know you got the whole week

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_01]: The radio row

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_01]: All that kind of stuff

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Celebrities everywhere

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas with the finals

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Like whoever plays in the Super Bowl

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna watch

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You know if it's Jacksonville in Carolina

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna watch

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_00]: It's one day yeah

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas in the NBA

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I've always told you

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that the NBA is rigged

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't like San Antonio Milwaukee NBA

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, if they have a chance

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I used to have this conversation all the time

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_01]: LeBron's first go round in Cleveland

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You know I would tell people

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_01]: If the Eastern Conference Finals

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Was Cleveland against Milwaukee

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Back then before Yanis

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Milwaukee had to be 10 points better

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Every night because if the game was in reason

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_01]: There was gonna be some calls

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_00]: There was gonna be some tech files

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah there was gonna be some tech calls

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Some Donahue going on

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And then we saw this play out

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Because Orlando couldn't miss a shot

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm sure if they could have done something

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo they

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Michael Peters was killing them

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Hito

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Hito was killing them

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_00]: What's the boy name

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_00]: He ended up playing for Miami

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Rashard Lewis was killing them

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_00]: They were killing Cleveland

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_01]: There was nothing Cleveland could do about it

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_00]: The way Howard was killing them

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They had the Nike commercials with Kobe

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And the puppet

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_00]: But the NFL

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_00]: The NFL being rigged

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just such a

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Like

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It's too many things going on

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Even with the penalties

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And the injury risk is too high

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: The injury risk is too high

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And just the basic

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_00]: If one person messes up on one play

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a touchdown

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Or it's not a touchdown

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Caderius Tony

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a touchdown Caderius Tony

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a touchdown in the NBA

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a touchdown

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you overthrow a Jimmy Garoppolo

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_00]: For the NFL to be rigged

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Just the narrative that is rigged

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_00]: It's hilarious

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But the thing I love the most about it

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the reason we have this topic

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll talk to the guy in my office today

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to BMAC

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_00]: If he's listening

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I told everybody to watch the podcast

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to BMAC

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Casey46Pilot

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Smart Guy

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Graduated from a university

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the J-military

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Smart Guy

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_00]: But like he had like a pseudo

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Intellectual argument about

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_00]: The validity of it

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_00]: If it was rigged or not

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And my argument that goes on to

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Was like who benefits

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: From it being rigged

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Because no matter what

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I'ma watch

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Because we used last night's games

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_00]: As a prime example

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I would not

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So last night the games were

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Green Bay vs. the Giants

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I know a family that went to

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Their Giants fans

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_00]: They went to the game

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Last night because

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_00]: They liked the Roof of Time of DeVito

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a kid from around

[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, you know, from the story

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It's very Jeremy Lynn-esque kind of story

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_00]: He grew up ten minutes

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he grew up like ten minutes from the stadium

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Still lives at home with his mom

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_00]: They're winning games

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Keep in mind this is a team that just

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Watched their quarterback

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_00]: He paid $40 million in all season

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_00]: After having one good season

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And then being out for the season

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_00]: With like between neck and ACL injuries

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_00]: He might not be ready to come back

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_00]: They've had a bad year

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_00]: They barely wanted to pay their rent back

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So they've had a terrible run of it

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Up until about a month ago

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So as a Giants fan

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_01]: One green arrow now

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, as a Giants fan

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You've had a terrible offseason

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_00]: As a Giants fan

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_00]: From March through October

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's been awful

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you get this spark

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Because even DeVito

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_00]: When he came in for Tyrone Taylor

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't throw the ball at a game he could suggest

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_00]: In the rain they just kept running the ball

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And end up losing the game

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So that didn't even help the spark

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And then they turned it around

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You got the spark

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: They played Washington

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So then you had Miami vs. Tennessee

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't supposed to be

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_00]: The game that it was

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's not going to stop me

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_00]: From watching Monday night football next week

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Because whoever it is next week

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_00]: We haven't looked at that far

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to watch Thursday night football tomorrow?

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean in two days are you going to watch that?

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: What we got?

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: We got Raiders vs. Chargers

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And Justin Herbert's out for the season

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to watch it

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to watch Easton Stick

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And we're all going to watch it

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And I have a friend who lives in Vegas

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And she's going to post pictures

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: From the box that her boss gets

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he knows people in the Raiders organization

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So even though she's a patriot fan

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: She still goes all these Raider games

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Just because it's the Raider game

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_00]: People pay a million dollars for the VIP section

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Behind the goalposts at Raiders games

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: So people are still going to watch

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It being rigged like I said

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't benefit anyone

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Because the allure of

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Who anybody can really win it

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a committee

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Get you into the playoffs

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: The Buccaneers could theoretically

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Either the Buccaneers or the Saints or the Falcons

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Can finish this season 8-9

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Win the division

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Get a home playoff game against

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So there'd be 2-3-4

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So 4 would play 5

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_00]: 5 would be Detroit

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Or even the Rams

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's going to be at home

[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to have an 8-9 team

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: That is going to have a home playoff game

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And they just catch fire

[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Keep in mind like the year that

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_00]: The Giants beat the 18 and 0

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Patriots they were 9-7

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: 10-6

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_01]: 9-7 both times

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: 9-7 both times

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And Eli Manny had 2 of the

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Greatest throws in the history of

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Super Bowl

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't write that

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But you could write

[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But you could write

[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Eli against Peyton in the Super Bowl

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: If you wanted to

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And it never happened

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Never got

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I mean I guess it got close

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_01]: A couple times maybe

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how close it really

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Gave because Eli

[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Outside of those Super Bowl Rams

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Was god awful for a most of his career

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got to pick that off any

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But his seasons weren't

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_00]: The Giants seasons under Eli

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Weren't that great

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Consistency

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Well the one that I thought of

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: The one that I thought of was

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Because that was more your idea

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But the one that I thought of was

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Back when Pittsburgh beat Seattle

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I'm sorry

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: No no no

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: They beat Arizona

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: To win their 6 Super Bowl

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: They became 6th Berg

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: You know so why would you not

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: If it was scripted

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You would either have San Francisco

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Or Dallas since they both have

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_01]: 5 Super Bowls

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You could have had them play

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Pittsburgh

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And the winner is the first team

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: To get 6 Super Bowls

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know that would have been

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: A hell of a story

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Kurt Warner winning that game

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Would have been a hell of a

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Story because he was a guy

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Came out of the supermarket

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And he had like fallen off

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Before he went to Arizona

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: He was basically relegated

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: To second string when they

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Drafted Eli in New York

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Then he went to Arizona

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Arizona had like a 9-7 season

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But I remember they beat

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Atlanta, Atlanta was 11-5 that year

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_00]: They beat Atlanta

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he goes Super Bowl

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I still do not believe

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Until this day that

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Santonio Holmes got

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: That second toe down

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Out because he had the

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yellows cleats

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I still believe to this day

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_00]: That that toe was on the back

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: His right foot was on the back

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Of his left foot

[01:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Even though I don't think

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: The NFL is rigged

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I did think that their

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Previous Super Bowl win

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Against Seattle was rigged

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_00]: That was close

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That was an awful

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Officiated game

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a couple of bad calls

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But still Antoine Rendo

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: L through that pass to

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Hans Ward

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But if it was rigged

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Jerome Bedes doesn't fumble

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Against Indianapolis

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the corner picks it up

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And lets Ben Rosberg

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Attack on the wall

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_00]: My god, my god, Willi Parker

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Going 70 yards

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_00]: He got stabbed in the leg

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_00]: The corner

[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_00]: The corner for

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That picked the ball up

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_00]: For Indy

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_00]: He got stabbed in the leg

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_00]: By his girlfriend

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_00]: That week

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_00]: He played in the game

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: With stitches in his leg

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the reason he got caught

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't think

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_00]: The NFL goes to that link

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: The stories are great

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I love

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I got one

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: If the NFL was rigged

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: If the NFL was rigged

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Peyton Maddie ain't scoring

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Nine points in the Super Bowl

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Was it even nine?

[01:07:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was 43 to nine

[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Was it 49 to 45?

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I know

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The first play of the game

[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Was a safety

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they had five

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they got the nine

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It might have been five

[01:07:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it might have been

[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_00]: 43-5

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they had

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_00]: The safety on the first play

[01:07:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I had Super Bowl squares

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Because me and you watched that game

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, 43 to eight

[01:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: 43 to eight, yeah

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You watched that game in Mike's

[01:07:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_01]: That's definitely not happening

[01:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: If the NFL is rigged

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Peyton Maddie was the goalie

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_00]: They wouldn't have a Super Bowl

[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That met life

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_01]: If the NFL was rigged

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Peyton Maddie would have

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Tom Brady's accomplishments

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Tom Brady wouldn't have

[01:07:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Tom Brady's accomplishments

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_00]: He is not the story

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You would have

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_00]: What Super Bowl matches do I have?

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, if the NFL was rigged

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You'd have New England versus Dallas

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You said Robo, yeah

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You'd have a New England-Dallas Super Bowl

[01:08:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you have

[01:08:03] [SPEAKER_00]: America's team

[01:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Tom's too

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Being Dallas

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And then America's team

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Being the Patriots

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_00]: They were both

[01:08:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Pursuant and disliked

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: By most of the NFL fans

[01:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't lie to you

[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to go all

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Sean McDermott up in here

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But when the Patriots

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Won the Super Bowl

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: After 9-11

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And then

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: The states of all teams

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_01]: For the fact that they

[01:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Even won a Super Bowl

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Ever

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Show that NFL is rigged

[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Atlanta's been at two Super Bowls

[01:08:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And both of them were heartbreaking

[01:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: The starting safety

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Out here trying to get a hooker

[01:08:45] [SPEAKER_00]: The man of the year

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: He was the NFL man of the year

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_00]: He was like the team preacher

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Eugene Robinson

[01:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Out here trying to get a hooker

[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Rod Smith

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Burned him on the slant route

[01:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I would imagine

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So this one is a struggle for me

[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But I would imagine

[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That just from a polarizing standpoint

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: The NFL would have won it

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Carolina to win

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: The Carolina New England Super Bowl

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: No, the Vaughan Miller Super Bowl

[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the Vaughan

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they want Payton

[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: What's the boy name?

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they want Cam Newton

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Is there a poster boy for a quarterback

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_01]: No, because I mean

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You've got to still have controversy

[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And you still have to have

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, villains and heroes

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: For you, Rod

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Me and you are writing the script

[01:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: We're in an NFL vote

[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And we get down to the Super Bowl

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And we got Carolina Denver

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And you want

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Cam Newton

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_00]: To win it over Payton Manning

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_00]: For controversy

[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Because at the time

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Payton Manning was on his last legs

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he was pretty much out of the league

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Cam won MVP that year

[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he won MVP

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's what they believe in

[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So theoretically

[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So theoretically, Cam had more left

[01:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Than Payton

[01:10:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's a story going forward

[01:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: If they win that Super Bowl

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that's the thing

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_00]: If I'm writing new stories every year

[01:10:13] [SPEAKER_00]: In the script room

[01:10:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't need the story to carry over

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no like game of thrones

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the story is going to carry over

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Either way though

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd give it

[01:10:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I'd like the John L. Wade

[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Jerome Bedis

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Payton Manning Super Bowl

[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Right off into the sunset

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's like

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I think people admire that

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that story sells

[01:10:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean Jerome Bedis

[01:10:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Won the Super Bowl in his hometown

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: All I know is

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Hulk Hogan used to win

[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_01]: In every WrestleMania

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a real script

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And then in 2000

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: In 2000

[01:10:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I know everybody is like

[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_01]: What the hell is he talking about

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_01]: In 2000

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the show gets beat baby

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_00]: We get beat

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You had a full way match

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_01]: With The Rock

[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The Big Show

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Mankind

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And Triple H

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And Triple H won

[01:11:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He was the first bad guy

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_01]: To win in WrestleMania history

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And everybody was going bananas

[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They were upset

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_01]: They were talking about they weren't going to ever watch it again

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But obviously, you know

[01:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: They were full of it

[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I mean

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So if Cam Newton wins

[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So you want Cam Newton to be

[01:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The new age guy that wins the Super Bowl

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because people already hated them

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_01]: People already hated them anyway

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So that just puts the cherry on top

[01:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's a champion and you hate him

[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Like why am I wasting my time

[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Hating on a dude that ain't got a ring

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So like look at

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_01]: We talk about LeBron all the time

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you can hate on LeBron

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's like

[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_01]: At worst the second best player of all time

[01:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So you can hate on him

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And it resonates

[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And it does all this

[01:11:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's talked about all the time

[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But ain't nobody up in here

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Like hating on Devin Booker to that level

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[01:12:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I get that part

[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think

[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they hate resonates as much

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Unless it's a dual combination situation

[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: It's

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You have

[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You have something like

[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_00]: The Peyton Manning

[01:12:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Dallas Cowboys would be dope

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But that was perfect

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, Tom Brady Dallas

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Would have been dope, suitable

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But the Cam Newton thing

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That would have been perfect

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he spits in the face of authority

[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And like all this and all that

[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And he would have took out everybody's hero

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: He would have sent the hero

[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Cam Newton

[01:12:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Really spits in the face of authority

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I've been watching some interviews with him

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And he said he sat down with the owner

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And the owner basically gave him a blueprint

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Of how he wanted him to operate

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_00]: As a quarterback

[01:12:55] [SPEAKER_00]: That's why I guess he didn't get tattoos

[01:12:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And he didn't grow his hair

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that previous owner

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And we learned later that that previous owner

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Had a little bit of a racist fire in his fireplace

[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: But I do like

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Trying to think

[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: What would have been like the best

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Combination

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I would have loved

[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I would have loved

[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I brought this up in our pre-meeting

[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I would have loved

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_01]: A greater 49er Super Bowl

[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know just because of those fan bases

[01:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That hate and all that stuff

[01:13:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't see how you wouldn't

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: If it was rigged

[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't see how you wouldn't

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Book that out

[01:13:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Set that up

[01:13:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah at least just one

[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_00]: They've had how many Super Bowls in Dallas

[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_00]: At least two or three, right?

[01:13:40] [SPEAKER_00]: They had the

[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: The Steelers

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Packers one was in Dallas

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So we kept having this whole

[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the team never played

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_00]: In their home stadium

[01:13:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And now we got two of them in the last four years

[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So we wait to the COVID year

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: With the stadium half full

[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: To get you time breathing in Patsmae Homes

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the Rams did it

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You gotta rig it better than that

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and then the Rams did it

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You know like the year after

[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you got this

[01:14:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't have a hip hop half time

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Showing the sun still up

[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It just didn't work

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_00]: That's supposed to be an East Coast

[01:14:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you can have like Taylor Swift

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Performing when the sun's up

[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Or Pink

[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yo I was so

[01:14:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Like

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't see walking when the sun's up

[01:14:27] [SPEAKER_00]: It just didn't have a same effect

[01:14:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Well remember that year

[01:14:31] [SPEAKER_01]: That was the year that Stafford

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Through the pick

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Or the should have been picked

[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And Tart dropped it

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And so we almost

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Ended up at Cincinnati San Francisco

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Which would have been the third time

[01:14:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That they would have played in the suit

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That would have been the three

[01:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Pete you would have brought everybody back

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah everybody

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Why would you not

[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_00]: If it was rigged

[01:14:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Why would you not

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Sean Taylor Jerry Rice Joe Montana

[01:14:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You'd have

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like in a

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_00]: What's the boy named

[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Boomer

[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Did you say Boomer

[01:15:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I said Boomer yeah

[01:15:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I was a big fan since then

[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: When I was growing up

[01:15:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like cause the icky shuffle

[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey Chris Collinsworth

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Collinsworth come on

[01:15:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Merton Hanks

[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo with the neck

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo it would have been

[01:15:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Bananas to have that

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But of course it's like

[01:15:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Now we will go with this L.A.

[01:15:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Cincinnati

[01:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I would have imagined that a team

[01:15:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Philly

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Not necessarily a team

[01:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But a city like Philly

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Would have got a Super Bowl before they did

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You know with their fans and like the

[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Their fans never lost passion

[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So you're good to go

[01:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but it's just good for business

[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna keep going up

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing

[01:15:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna keep selling off the link

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna keep selling off the link

[01:15:44] [SPEAKER_00]: They had the new stadium

[01:15:45] [SPEAKER_00]: They're good to go

[01:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: How come we never got a subway Super Bowl

[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Jets, giants

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Did you imagine

[01:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo

[01:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping for that

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I hope it figures out

[01:16:00] [SPEAKER_01]: If the Super Bowl is ever

[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: If the Super Bowl is ever

[01:16:03] [SPEAKER_01]: In MetLife again

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I don't know if it will be

[01:16:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause they froze everybody

[01:16:07] [SPEAKER_00]: If the Super Bowl wasn't in MetLife

[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And then it looked like

[01:16:12] [SPEAKER_00]: The Jets and the Giants

[01:16:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Were gonna make the Super Bowl

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they would make arrangements to move it

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_00]: To Met

[01:16:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Because can you imagine

[01:16:21] [SPEAKER_00]: First of all

[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're not from here

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Getting around on the trains

[01:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And the buses and everything else

[01:16:29] [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like an inconvenience

[01:16:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But when you're from here

[01:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just like it's just kind of par for the course

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So a Jets, Giants

[01:16:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Super Bowl at MetLife

[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Shut it down

[01:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yo, how about

[01:16:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Ravens

[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: 49ers this year

[01:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's reversed

[01:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: San Francisco

[01:16:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean Baltimore has the Kaepernick now

[01:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And San Francisco has the Flacco

[01:16:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Has the Pocket Passer

[01:16:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_00]: That'd be nuts

[01:17:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially the way that Super Bowl went

[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_01]: The lights going out

[01:17:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You know the crazy

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo, we made a drinking game up

[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You were in Korea, yeah

[01:17:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo, I was lit

[01:17:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Because the game came out at 10 o'clock in the morning

[01:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo, when Jacoby Jones

[01:17:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Scored the touchdown

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I think we took shots

[01:17:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Because if you were cheering for the Ravens

[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And they scored a touchdown

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You had to take a shot

[01:17:31] [SPEAKER_00]: If your team gave up a special team's touchdown

[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_00]: You had to take a shot

[01:17:34] [SPEAKER_00]: If a special team's touchdown was scored

[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You had to take a shot

[01:17:37] [SPEAKER_00]: If a kickoff was returned

[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was like

[01:17:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I think if the play was longer than like

[01:17:42] [SPEAKER_00]: 75 yards

[01:17:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It was all these little stipulations that

[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So the 13 of us in this room

[01:17:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Were like we were just pouring soju

[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Think about it

[01:17:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Keeping up with what you like

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Ray Lewis went off into the sunset

[01:17:58] [SPEAKER_00]: He did go off to the sunset

[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_01]: When he was about to get busted

[01:18:01] [SPEAKER_01]: For using the deer antler spray

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And in his previous Super Bowl

[01:18:07] [SPEAKER_00]: He killed a dude

[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So it was like

[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean things are crazy

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Even in baseball

[01:18:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Thinking about baseball

[01:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I would have imagined

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: We would have got Dodger's Yankees

[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Sometime in the last 15 years

[01:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Not even close

[01:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not even close

[01:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Or I guess close

[01:18:26] [SPEAKER_01]: The Dodgers have made the World Series

[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And the Yankees made the ALCS

[01:18:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So we were close a couple of times

[01:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And people were hoping for it

[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you know I was taking money from people

[01:18:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause I was like give me the Astros

[01:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like no dude this is the Yankees year

[01:18:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like give me that money bro

[01:18:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Give me that money

[01:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I remember Stephen A. Smith was talking about it during COVID

[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: He was like so you mean to tell me all these years

[01:18:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been in basketball

[01:18:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been reporting

[01:18:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And we get a Miami

[01:18:55] [SPEAKER_00]: LA NBA Finals

[01:18:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's in the bubble

[01:18:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It's in the bubble in Orlando and I can't go

[01:19:01] [SPEAKER_00]: He was like can you think about Miami

[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And LA

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_00]: What about the Knicks

[01:19:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure the NBA would love

[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_00]: The Knicks

[01:19:11] [SPEAKER_00]: If professional leagues

[01:19:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Starting with the NFL cause I think NFL is king

[01:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Of the professional leagues

[01:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Zion

[01:19:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Kevin Durant

[01:19:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And LeBron all would have been in New York

[01:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: They would have sat in that like listen

[01:19:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Close the door

[01:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Turn the cameras off

[01:19:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey LeBron you're not going to LA

[01:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to the Knicks

[01:19:38] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll figure out the luxury tech stuff

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna give you the biggest contract ever

[01:19:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But we need you in New York

[01:19:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Can you imagine

[01:19:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Can you imagine if he did go to New York though

[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I know

[01:19:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm bearable

[01:19:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the NFL ain't no way they were going to let

[01:19:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Barry Sanders and Megatron retire

[01:19:59] [SPEAKER_00]: They would have thrown him something

[01:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: They would have thrown him a bone

[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Considering that it was

[01:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You saw it happen

[01:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You saw what happened with Barry Sanders

[01:20:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you see

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_00]: What was happening with Megatron

[01:20:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like yo history is about to repeat itself

[01:20:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So that passing the experience called against Dallas

[01:20:15] [SPEAKER_00]: What it got called

[01:20:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Matthew Stafford would have

[01:20:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[01:20:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Finally want to play off game

[01:20:22] [SPEAKER_01]: As slanted as the NFL coverage is

[01:20:24] [SPEAKER_01]: To the NFC East

[01:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: We would have got a lot more Dallas

[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Versus somebody in the

[01:20:30] [SPEAKER_01]: NFC Championship Game

[01:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah

[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_00]: They would have called a hold

[01:20:36] [SPEAKER_00]: On the Aaron Rogers when he's rolling to his left

[01:20:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And through that

[01:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Jerry Cook

[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It would have been a hold somewhere because he's rolling out

[01:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I guarantee you it was a hold

[01:20:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a firm believer that every big

[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Play in the NFL passing

[01:20:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Or rushing

[01:20:52] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a quarter

[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Blocking it back even my own son

[01:20:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I looked at one of his highlights when he

[01:20:58] [SPEAKER_00]: He rolled out to the left

[01:21:00] [SPEAKER_00]: On the quarterback keeper

[01:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: 70 yard touchdown

[01:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I looked at the play it was a kid literally holding

[01:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Another kid's arm like this

[01:21:06] [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't call it in count

[01:21:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a question

[01:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is like the reverse break

[01:21:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Because when people think of rigging

[01:21:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They think of teams winning

[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Or whatever

[01:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Teams being helped with a flag

[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Or a whistle

[01:21:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But here's a question

[01:21:24] [SPEAKER_01]: How come America

[01:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: ESPN

[01:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: In sport leagues

[01:21:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't like Atlanta

[01:21:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the city?

[01:21:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like the Falcons

[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I've watched

[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Now you know I'm not even a Falcons fan

[01:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Correct

[01:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: That play

[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it was last year or two years ago

[01:21:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it was probably last year

[01:21:49] [SPEAKER_01]: When

[01:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Brady Jarrett sacked Tom Brady

[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And he rolled on

[01:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Brady's lap

[01:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: They threw that flag

[01:21:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Or

[01:22:00] [SPEAKER_01]: When I see the Hawks

[01:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Because when I think of Atlanta

[01:22:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I think of a big city

[01:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know market size

[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_01]: If they're big

[01:22:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Phoenix is a big city

[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_00]: They gotta be top 8

[01:22:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine if they're top 8

[01:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Phoenix is a big city

[01:22:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But they don't get coverage

[01:22:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a big city

[01:22:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[01:22:24] [SPEAKER_01]: When I look at

[01:22:25] [SPEAKER_01]: The NFL or NBA

[01:22:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It's New York, LA

[01:22:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So on and so forth

[01:22:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But Atlanta is a big city too

[01:22:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And they don't seem to get that respect

[01:22:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Like free agents don't go there

[01:22:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You know like in the NBA at least

[01:22:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like free agents never go to the mall

[01:22:41] [SPEAKER_02]: NFL as well

[01:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, people like Atlanta

[01:22:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Why doesn't Atlanta secede?

[01:22:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess that's the way to put it

[01:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you think about it

[01:22:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I think baseball

[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean they just won a World Series pretty recently

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the 28-3

[01:23:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Really

[01:23:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Does resonate

[01:23:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said most of those players

[01:23:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Aren't on that team anymore

[01:23:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[01:23:10] [SPEAKER_00]: If I had to guess

[01:23:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna say probably zero

[01:23:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I would think zero because

[01:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That was like 7-8 years ago now

[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Grady Jarrett might have been on the team

[01:23:22] [SPEAKER_00]: That Super Bowl run

[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe he was

[01:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Kickers and punters are all gone

[01:23:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Coaching staff is different

[01:23:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Quarterback is different

[01:23:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Y receiver corps is all different

[01:23:33] [SPEAKER_00]: No tight end

[01:23:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I'm pretty sure the whole team is completely overhaul

[01:23:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And they still play like that

[01:23:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And they still play like they were on the team

[01:23:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like they see these highlights

[01:23:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like randomly YouTube pulls up

[01:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Super Bowl games and playoff games as we're doing these shows

[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I think a few weeks ago

[01:23:51] [SPEAKER_00]: They pulled up the Atlanta one

[01:23:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like I pulled them up control

[01:23:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Atlanta feels to me

[01:23:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Like whether it's the Hawks or the Falcons

[01:23:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't even matter

[01:24:01] [SPEAKER_01]: They feel like the Cubs to me

[01:24:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Before the Cubs won the World Series

[01:24:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They wouldn't have gone 108 years without

[01:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Winning the World Series

[01:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: The first quarter ring

[01:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: They're one of the most popular ones

[01:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah the Red Sox

[01:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: They went like 100 years before that

[01:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: 0-3 comeback against the Yankees

[01:24:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was

[01:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like 90 something years

[01:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It was around the same time

[01:24:25] [SPEAKER_00]: 84 years but they didn't have to come back from down 3-1

[01:24:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[01:24:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And then 8-Rod knocking a ball out of his hand

[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just crazy

[01:24:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I understand what people

[01:24:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Because me and you have had this conversation before

[01:24:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I understand that

[01:24:39] [SPEAKER_00]: If you are

[01:24:41] [SPEAKER_00]: An executive

[01:24:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Even though I think it's short sighted

[01:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't agree with it

[01:24:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the thing sometimes

[01:24:47] [SPEAKER_00]: People down our day and age

[01:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: We have this expectation

[01:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That I have to agree with you

[01:24:54] [SPEAKER_00]: To understand it

[01:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I can understand

[01:24:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Why you're upset about

[01:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Your breakup

[01:25:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't agree with the fact that you're moping about it

[01:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I get it

[01:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it happens

[01:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't get why you walk around here like is there everybody else's problem

[01:25:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I understand that

[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So I understand why people think like

[01:25:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the NFL would prefer

[01:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: This matchup

[01:25:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know

[01:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: How you

[01:25:21] [SPEAKER_01]: They just made Lakers Cavs

[01:25:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh the Lakers Cavs

[01:25:27] [SPEAKER_00]: With Kobe LeBron

[01:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Not Lakers Cavs, Kobe LeBron

[01:25:29] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't care about those

[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Galzkis and whoever else is on team

[01:25:34] [SPEAKER_00]: They wanted Kobe LeBron

[01:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And it would have happened

[01:25:40] [SPEAKER_00]: If they would have called like some illegal

[01:25:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Screens or something all those three pointers that

[01:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Olando was dropping but they were just dropping clean

[01:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Three pointers

[01:25:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean he had Delante West and Moe Wayne

[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Was trying to guard turkey

[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Could you imagine sports talk

[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_00]: If we got

[01:25:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Asteroids in the no if the other way around

[01:25:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Could you imagine

[01:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Kobe LeBron

[01:26:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it would be

[01:26:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it would be crazier

[01:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: If LeBron be Kobe

[01:26:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Because people already believe Kobe is better than LeBron

[01:26:09] [SPEAKER_00]: People argue that already

[01:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But if

[01:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Kobe was 5 and 2

[01:26:14] [SPEAKER_00]: In the finals and LeBron

[01:26:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Was 4 and 6 as he is now

[01:26:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But one of his 4

[01:26:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Was him beating Kobe

[01:26:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It would just be chaos

[01:26:26] [SPEAKER_01]: See and I think it's the reverse

[01:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that

[01:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that people

[01:26:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Have been trying to position LeBron

[01:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Ahead of Kobe since like 2005

[01:26:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You know and

[01:26:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah but I think

[01:26:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Recently people have been doing

[01:26:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Been doing more to try to

[01:26:43] [SPEAKER_00]: See

[01:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Ever since Kobe's tragic passion

[01:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I think

[01:26:48] [SPEAKER_00]: People have been kind of

[01:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Sliding him

[01:26:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Well I think it's in the back

[01:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's in the back

[01:26:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I think and I've told you this before

[01:26:58] [SPEAKER_01]: This is probably the first time I've said it on

[01:27:01] [SPEAKER_01]: This show

[01:27:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But I feel

[01:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That before he died

[01:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: When he was still alive and well

[01:27:07] [SPEAKER_01]: The media was literally trying

[01:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: To erase Kobe in front of our eyes

[01:27:11] [SPEAKER_01]: In real time

[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Even people that I respect

[01:27:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Beaumonti Jones

[01:27:16] [SPEAKER_01]: They were using all these analytics

[01:27:18] [SPEAKER_01]: To try to

[01:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know like the

[01:27:22] [SPEAKER_00]: 8th, 9th, 12th

[01:27:24] [SPEAKER_00]: They had him behind Larry Bird

[01:27:25] [SPEAKER_00]: They had him everywhere

[01:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and

[01:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: To do that

[01:27:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But like to me because we always get

[01:27:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Me and you get into this argument a lot

[01:27:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Where you know

[01:27:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You always notice

[01:27:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The people that are negative towards LeBron

[01:27:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's like

[01:27:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Joe Blow out here on twitter

[01:27:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That nobody knows

[01:27:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But as far as the people that are supposed to be

[01:27:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Reporting an objective

[01:27:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And all that kind of stuff

[01:27:52] [SPEAKER_01]: The media is besides like

[01:27:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Skip Bayless and Rob Parker

[01:27:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Are so team LeBron

[01:27:59] [SPEAKER_01]: That

[01:28:00] [SPEAKER_01]: LeBron fans don't notice that

[01:28:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Or they just ignore it

[01:28:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You know and

[01:28:05] [SPEAKER_00]: My biggest thing with that is that because

[01:28:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said this time I noticed about

[01:28:10] [SPEAKER_00]: People talking about Kobe

[01:28:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I was telling someone about

[01:28:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I was talking to like a female friend of mine

[01:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Who likes basketball

[01:28:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And we were sitting over there talking about

[01:28:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was at my friend's house and the game was on

[01:28:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like all these dudes

[01:28:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Come up here telling their great Kobe stories

[01:28:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Kobe wouldn't have liked them

[01:28:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Kobe wouldn't like the way he's

[01:28:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Played they wouldn't like the way there was

[01:28:32] [SPEAKER_00]: The seasons ended like

[01:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Kobe was very very vocal about

[01:28:35] [SPEAKER_00]: What he liked and didn't like

[01:28:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Kobe would have told Jason Tatum to shut up and man up

[01:28:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo he wouldn't like

[01:28:41] [SPEAKER_00]: He would have told all of Joe

[01:28:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a mama mentality and all

[01:28:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So stuff like Kobe was like

[01:28:46] [SPEAKER_00]: When he started growing a beard and put his

[01:28:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Put it you know regular like

[01:28:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Put seven six foot eight frame weight on

[01:28:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And he was the one to interview the T-Mac

[01:28:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And smile and they're like yeah he's coming around

[01:28:56] [SPEAKER_00]: But for the most part

[01:28:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Kobe wouldn't like here giving these guys respectful

[01:29:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Comments every once in a while

[01:29:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You got the video in preseason

[01:29:03] [SPEAKER_00]: When he slapped Steph Curry in the butt when he crossed them up

[01:29:06] [SPEAKER_00]: That should then happen in

[01:29:08] [SPEAKER_00]: February

[01:29:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he's cool

[01:29:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Paul George would have walked up to Kobe and be like

[01:29:14] [SPEAKER_01]: What up Kobe?

[01:29:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Kobe would have been like what's your name again?

[01:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like why are you talking to me?

[01:29:20] [SPEAKER_00]: For the old E-Miles Shepherd

[01:29:22] [SPEAKER_00]: E-Miles Shepherd told an honest story

[01:29:23] [SPEAKER_00]: He was like you had a good game young fella

[01:29:25] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like after three quarters

[01:29:27] [SPEAKER_00]: We got a whole fourth quarter

[01:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like I'm still in the ball from your game

[01:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Well that's like

[01:29:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I was listening to one of my old mix tapes

[01:29:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You know from like 2002 or whatever

[01:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And

[01:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I was listening

[01:29:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I was listening to one of them rock a fella mix tapes

[01:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You know like the hot 97 joint

[01:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And they had

[01:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They had this core mega joint on there

[01:29:49] [SPEAKER_02]: 2016

[01:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the CD was

[01:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Street Wars

[01:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: They had core mega

[01:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: He had a song going at Nas

[01:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was like the matching pocket

[01:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't like you

[01:30:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?

[01:30:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I just noticed that

[01:30:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said

[01:30:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I understand from you

[01:30:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause I never even thought about the small market

[01:30:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Big market

[01:30:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But they wanted

[01:30:16] [SPEAKER_00]: The NBA wants

[01:30:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if MLB really cares

[01:30:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I think MLB is all about just baseball

[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And they didn't care that much

[01:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I think baseball fans are sort of like football fans

[01:30:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they would probably, I mean this one

[01:30:28] [SPEAKER_01]: This last World Series I think was the lowest rated one

[01:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: The Rangers

[01:30:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And

[01:30:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Dynabax

[01:30:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It was the lowest rated World Series

[01:30:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think

[01:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: True baseball fans

[01:30:42] [SPEAKER_01]: True football fans

[01:30:44] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll just watch whatever it is

[01:30:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and the thing about baseball fans

[01:30:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Baseball teams

[01:30:51] [SPEAKER_00]: When

[01:30:52] [SPEAKER_00]: They smell proverbial blood

[01:30:54] [SPEAKER_00]: In the water like yo this is our year

[01:30:56] [SPEAKER_00]: They go for it

[01:30:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You look at NFL teams

[01:31:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been yelling about

[01:31:02] [SPEAKER_00]: My team that support

[01:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: The Atlanta Falcons

[01:31:05] [SPEAKER_00]: To make moves

[01:31:07] [SPEAKER_00]: To go for it now

[01:31:10] [SPEAKER_00]: My stream is gone

[01:31:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh just got ejected

[01:31:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Dreymon

[01:31:16] [SPEAKER_01]: He just fucking

[01:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah like he was

[01:31:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It looked like he was trying to post up Nerkich

[01:31:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You know they're bumping

[01:31:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You know post up they're bumping

[01:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Dreymon does the flail

[01:31:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know and hits them in the face

[01:31:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Like slaps them in the face

[01:31:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And of course Nerkich

[01:31:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you know falls like on his face

[01:31:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he got shot in the back

[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean

[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I've never fallen on a basketball court in my entire life

[01:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I've never been getting in the face and falling on the ground

[01:31:43] [SPEAKER_01]: If I fell on a basketball court

[01:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It was because I twisted my ankle or something

[01:31:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I came down on a rebound

[01:31:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Some dude hit me low like he was trying to tackle me

[01:31:54] [SPEAKER_00]: That's probably it

[01:31:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah he was flailing

[01:31:57] [SPEAKER_01]: He was doing like to get off me

[01:32:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I like Dreymon

[01:32:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I like his attack

[01:32:03] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like the intensity

[01:32:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the fact that he's undersized and he plays

[01:32:05] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like the new Charles Barkley

[01:32:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I have to send you the video when I get it

[01:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah like so

[01:32:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know

[01:32:13] [SPEAKER_00]: NFL teams like don't go for it

[01:32:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Right now there's conversations I saw

[01:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: On first take today

[01:32:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Should the Jets bring

[01:32:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Zach Wilson back

[01:32:25] [SPEAKER_00]: A baseball team

[01:32:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Would trade him and get whatever they can get

[01:32:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And whatever they

[01:32:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever they can get for him

[01:32:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Turns out to be successful

[01:32:36] [SPEAKER_00]: He would already be gone

[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I think Matt Ryan held on Atlanta

[01:32:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Two extra years that he shouldn't have

[01:32:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I think Atlanta held on to Dan Quinn

[01:32:44] [SPEAKER_00]: About a year and a half long and they should have

[01:32:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the Jets are going to hold on to

[01:32:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Rob Asala probably a little longer

[01:32:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I applaud Denver

[01:32:52] [SPEAKER_00]: For getting rid of a coach

[01:32:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You know in time but I was like

[01:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: In the same sense you didn't reach them

[01:32:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Got a guy that didn't really fit

[01:33:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The

[01:33:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Steelers

[01:33:03] [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to hold on to Mike Tomlin

[01:33:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Which makes sense

[01:33:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But they're not going to get rid of Kenny Pickett

[01:33:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Caroline's going to get rid of Bryce Young

[01:33:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of NFL teams

[01:33:12] [SPEAKER_00]: They look at the contractors like

[01:33:14] [SPEAKER_00]: The thing that makes them make their decisions

[01:33:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas baseball is like oh yeah

[01:33:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I signed this guy to 5 year 125 million

[01:33:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Dollar deal but

[01:33:22] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a left handed pitcher

[01:33:23] [SPEAKER_00]: The Yankees feel like they're about to make a run

[01:33:26] [SPEAKER_00]: We can trade him to the Yankees

[01:33:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And get four of their prospects

[01:33:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And two starters back

[01:33:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just do it

[01:33:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That's where teams like the Diamondbacks

[01:33:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And

[01:33:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Teams like my Orioles

[01:33:40] [SPEAKER_01]: That's where

[01:33:42] [SPEAKER_01]: They become a love in that way

[01:33:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's pure

[01:33:45] [SPEAKER_01]: They took the prospects

[01:33:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And developed them

[01:33:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why even in sports

[01:33:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Like college football

[01:33:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You know like I think people

[01:33:54] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't want to see them win the national title

[01:33:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Or anything like that

[01:33:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think people appreciate the Northwesterns

[01:34:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And

[01:34:01] [SPEAKER_01]: The Wake forces that

[01:34:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Just have the average Joe non-5 star

[01:34:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Athlete

[01:34:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But they come together

[01:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I think people are sick of the teams

[01:34:11] [SPEAKER_00]: That are you know, permanently in the top 8

[01:34:15] [SPEAKER_00]: 9 through

[01:34:16] [SPEAKER_00]: 65

[01:34:18] [SPEAKER_00]: We love those teams

[01:34:19] [SPEAKER_00]: We love watching them play

[01:34:20] [SPEAKER_00]: We love seeing their players in the league

[01:34:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Most of us go to those colleges

[01:34:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you go to them online

[01:34:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean you were at West Kentucky University

[01:34:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Shirt last week

[01:34:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just the

[01:34:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just for some reason

[01:34:34] [SPEAKER_00]: The rigged

[01:34:35] [SPEAKER_00]: The rigged piece I like to hear from

[01:34:38] [SPEAKER_00]: People who believe it

[01:34:39] [SPEAKER_00]: My pops is one of those guys that thinks

[01:34:42] [SPEAKER_00]: There's something to muck

[01:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: But he's a retired army guy

[01:34:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And he is critical of what was everything

[01:34:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean that's definitely something

[01:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I like having a conversation

[01:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I like having a conversation

[01:34:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Mainly because there's no real evidence

[01:34:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't, because I think in evidence

[01:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I think logically

[01:34:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So I like to hear from people

[01:35:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Who have

[01:35:03] [SPEAKER_00]: A different viewpoint

[01:35:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it allows me to either

[01:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Engage them logically

[01:35:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Or it makes me think

[01:35:12] [SPEAKER_00]: How does this make logical sense

[01:35:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like did you say something that made sense

[01:35:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like you know what

[01:35:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll listen to you if you, if I think you said

[01:35:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Something that made sense

[01:35:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate that whole heartily

[01:35:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the thing that you don't really get

[01:35:25] [SPEAKER_00]: In social media now because it's like

[01:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You want to get people who agree with you

[01:35:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Now my favorite is

[01:35:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I got a boy that thinks that

[01:35:33] [SPEAKER_01]: The All-Star Game format

[01:35:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Changed for LeBron

[01:35:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And the N.C.'s internment was created for LeBron

[01:35:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Please have them elaborate

[01:35:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So we can discuss this further

[01:35:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so when he told me that

[01:35:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You know I just had to

[01:35:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I had to let my brain heal a little bit

[01:35:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So you know but uh

[01:35:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You know speaking of healing

[01:35:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You know there's some players

[01:36:00] [SPEAKER_01]: That you've been thinking about

[01:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That may have hurt themselves

[01:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: By trying to come back too early

[01:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: They should have took some time

[01:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Who you got in mind

[01:36:11] [SPEAKER_00]: We have these stories of

[01:36:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh

[01:36:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like guys you got Brandon Roy

[01:36:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like recently got Lonzo Ball

[01:36:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Kyle and Murray is back now

[01:36:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I know Adrian P. is an exception to the rule

[01:36:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Peyton Manning did himself

[01:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he took a whole year off

[01:36:31] [SPEAKER_00]: After the surgery

[01:36:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Goes to Denver

[01:36:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Throws 50 plus touchdowns

[01:36:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Or 50 touchdowns breaks his own record

[01:36:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Or he broke Tom Brady's record

[01:36:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[01:36:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is a long time rival of his

[01:36:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So who broke

[01:36:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Who Tom Brady broke Peyton's record

[01:36:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So it was like to take a year off

[01:36:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You probably think it was my career over

[01:36:57] [SPEAKER_00]: My done the team that

[01:36:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You know was paying you

[01:36:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It drafted you for all these years

[01:37:02] [SPEAKER_00]: They essentially let you go

[01:37:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Pick any team you want

[01:37:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you go to Denver

[01:37:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Break the record

[01:37:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Eventually went to Super Bowl

[01:37:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So you got you know you got a couple

[01:37:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Super Bowls under your belt

[01:37:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I just think like

[01:37:16] [SPEAKER_00]: A guy like LeVion Bell

[01:37:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He was running back

[01:37:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he took his year

[01:37:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Off properly because he was ready

[01:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: To go so if he took his year off

[01:37:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like you know what

[01:37:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I'ma get in a different kind of shape

[01:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: That way when I do sound

[01:37:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Another team next year

[01:37:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I'ma be way better than I was a year ago

[01:37:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Because people are like oh you missing a year

[01:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Prime I'm like you're also not getting hit

[01:37:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[01:37:41] [SPEAKER_00]: For 16 games you really get the

[01:37:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw a video yesterday

[01:37:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And this kind of sparked this conversation

[01:37:48] [SPEAKER_00]: A little bit Michael Vic was talking about

[01:37:50] [SPEAKER_00]: He was watching the highlight

[01:37:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Of him and overtime against Minnesota

[01:37:54] [SPEAKER_00]: The famous highlight when he was playing

[01:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: In Jordan 17s on that carpet

[01:37:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And he ran through all those arm tackles

[01:38:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Scored a touchdown

[01:38:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[01:38:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Through the ball into the stands

[01:38:05] [SPEAKER_00]: He was like man I was playing

[01:38:07] [SPEAKER_00]: With a spring thumb

[01:38:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Two spring AC joints

[01:38:10] [SPEAKER_00]: In like different pains in each shoulder

[01:38:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately he gets

[01:38:15] [SPEAKER_00]: He gets charged with dog fighting

[01:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Has to do two years

[01:38:19] [SPEAKER_00]: In prison he comes out of prison

[01:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Still pretty much in his prime

[01:38:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But he got the heel

[01:38:24] [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't get tackled for two whole years

[01:38:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he was playing like

[01:38:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Backyard football and out of Leavenworth

[01:38:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Came back goes to Philly

[01:38:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Learned from Andy Reid

[01:38:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Signs another $100 million deal

[01:38:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he was the first guy to sign

[01:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: $200 million contracts

[01:38:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And pretty much

[01:38:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Revitalizes his entire career

[01:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's on TV

[01:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Without the success that he had in Philly

[01:38:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[01:38:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he makes it to Philly

[01:38:51] [SPEAKER_00]: If he stays in Atlanta with Jim Morrow Jr

[01:38:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Basically not holding him accountable

[01:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: For throwing a ball

[01:38:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Not reading the playbook

[01:39:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And he just running all the time

[01:39:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And so those two years that he was locked up

[01:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: He's on the Falcons

[01:39:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And they were close like every year

[01:39:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they got the NFC championship game

[01:39:11] [SPEAKER_00]: They got the new uniforms

[01:39:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Got the new stadium

[01:39:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Vic was like the guy

[01:39:16] [SPEAKER_00]: He was on Madden

[01:39:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he makes it

[01:39:21] [SPEAKER_00]: To the years that he played in Philly

[01:39:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Without being essentially

[01:39:25] [SPEAKER_00]: On the shelf for two years

[01:39:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Well you know

[01:39:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't thinking about this until

[01:39:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You brought up the LeBion Belle thing

[01:39:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But I started thinking about Maurice Claret

[01:39:38] [SPEAKER_01]: When you said that

[01:39:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he took the year off

[01:39:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Was trying to fight to get to the NFL early

[01:39:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And so

[01:39:45] [SPEAKER_01]: In my mind

[01:39:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like hey

[01:39:47] [SPEAKER_01]: He's about to go to the NFL

[01:39:49] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a year off not getting hit

[01:39:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't rehabbing though

[01:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't trying to get healthy

[01:39:55] [SPEAKER_00]: He was healthy

[01:39:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He sat out healthy

[01:39:58] [SPEAKER_00]: So you're doing healthy

[01:40:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Shit you're doing vacations

[01:40:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You're doing chilling

[01:40:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to clubs, you got your money

[01:40:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever you got so you're not rehabbing for a year

[01:40:08] [SPEAKER_00]: A guy like Kyla Murray

[01:40:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Was probably better off just flat out

[01:40:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Sitting out all year long

[01:40:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Because no one needs

[01:40:16] [SPEAKER_00]: To see you play six mediocre games

[01:40:18] [SPEAKER_00]: For the Arizona Cardinals

[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_00]: For your agent to be able to

[01:40:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Negotiate and get you

[01:40:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Because your deal is already good

[01:40:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Your deal is locked in for at least this season

[01:40:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And next season

[01:40:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever the buyout is

[01:40:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah you signed a $260 million deal

[01:40:33] [SPEAKER_00]: $130 or $40

[01:40:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And what are you doing

[01:40:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean like

[01:40:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You would think

[01:40:39] [SPEAKER_01]: In most scenarios you would think let's play him

[01:40:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Up his trade value

[01:40:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't even think they're doing that

[01:40:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't really seen them

[01:40:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Because at this point if they do trade him

[01:40:53] [SPEAKER_01]: The thought is already

[01:40:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You guys are drafting top

[01:40:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Three to five

[01:41:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You're probably taking a quarterback

[01:41:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Correct

[01:41:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So you can't increase his trade value

[01:41:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah because you have to get rid of him

[01:41:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to draft a guy like say

[01:41:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Drake May

[01:41:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And have him sit a year behind them

[01:41:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially when

[01:41:18] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not even comparable as far as

[01:41:21] [SPEAKER_01]: The type of system that

[01:41:22] [SPEAKER_00]: The playbook doesn't match up

[01:41:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Right now if you drafted Caleb Williams

[01:41:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe

[01:41:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But also with Caleb Williams' personality

[01:41:30] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not the type of dude that you're going to draft

[01:41:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And sit on the bench either

[01:41:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah he didn't want to sit behind Spencer Radler

[01:41:37] [SPEAKER_00]: In college you'd think he's going to sit behind

[01:41:38] [SPEAKER_00]: An essentially exact same guy

[01:41:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[01:41:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah so

[01:41:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You know just like I keep hearing about all this stuff

[01:41:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You know obviously

[01:41:48] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to play

[01:41:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But they keep talking about Aaron Rodgers

[01:41:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And how

[01:41:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I mentioned earlier Christmas Eve

[01:41:55] [SPEAKER_01]: He's supposed to be throwing again or whatever

[01:41:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like if he don't sit his old ass down somewhere

[01:42:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You shouldn't be doing anything until March

[01:42:04] [SPEAKER_01]: At the earliest

[01:42:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like what are you doing for the Jets

[01:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: They already paid you

[01:42:09] [SPEAKER_00]: People are already excited

[01:42:10] [SPEAKER_00]: These are jet fans, they come out every game

[01:42:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You're five and eight

[01:42:14] [SPEAKER_00]: They leave early

[01:42:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You're five and eight

[01:42:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not coming back to lead them

[01:42:20] [SPEAKER_01]: This ain't R-E-L-A-X

[01:42:22] [SPEAKER_01]: This ain't that

[01:42:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[01:42:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So Blondzel Ball was trying to come back

[01:42:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like take that time

[01:42:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Take that time to

[01:42:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You're young

[01:42:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And I know that people feel like it's

[01:42:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You know it's you against the world

[01:42:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And you never get an opportunity

[01:42:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Think about all the guys that are playing

[01:42:41] [SPEAKER_00]: In their mid-30s right now

[01:42:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Steph is in his mid-30s

[01:42:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Katie's in his mid-30s

[01:42:47] [SPEAKER_00]: All George's 33

[01:42:48] [SPEAKER_00]: All George, Kawhi Leonard

[01:42:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Harden

[01:42:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Westbrook

[01:42:55] [SPEAKER_00]: These guys you can still make it

[01:42:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you get an opportunity to sit for a year

[01:42:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And actually get healthy

[01:43:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Look at Dirk

[01:43:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Dirk played an extra year

[01:43:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you watch Dirk walk around now

[01:43:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like he's about to tip over

[01:43:10] [SPEAKER_02]: He's about to tip over

[01:43:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You know sometimes you need 100% disability

[01:43:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You just need to be like

[01:43:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me sit tight for a year

[01:43:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And get healthy

[01:43:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Blondzel is

[01:43:19] [SPEAKER_00]: People do it for mental health

[01:43:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I got out of high school

[01:43:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I grinded grind grind grind

[01:43:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I graduated with my 3.7

[01:43:27] [SPEAKER_00]: 3.8 or 4.0 GPA

[01:43:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I got to college

[01:43:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm taking all these classes

[01:43:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And I haven't taken a break

[01:43:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't taken a mental break

[01:43:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to take a gap year

[01:43:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Blondzel is what 26?

[01:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: At most?

[01:43:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He's in that same draft

[01:43:44] [SPEAKER_01]: He's Tatum and yeah

[01:43:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Marco Fulce

[01:43:48] [SPEAKER_00]: He probably would have benefited

[01:43:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he took that time off

[01:43:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he took that time off

[01:43:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But took some time off

[01:43:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Got right

[01:43:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's not a star NBA player

[01:43:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You know who I just thought about

[01:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Since we were talking basketball

[01:44:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Because initially when we were talking about it pregame

[01:44:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking football

[01:44:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But now that you're saying the things that you're saying

[01:44:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like Kevin DeRant

[01:44:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Kevin DeRant sat

[01:44:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Brooklyn gave him the deal

[01:44:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And he sat for that whole

[01:44:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Well not even that, I was talking about

[01:44:19] [SPEAKER_01]: When he tried to come back for the finals

[01:44:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why he needed to sit

[01:44:24] [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't come back early again

[01:44:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So he tore his Achilles

[01:44:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he sat

[01:44:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And you just sat for that whole year

[01:44:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Brooklyn didn't have

[01:44:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Videos of him shooting jump shots

[01:44:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Coming out

[01:44:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Same thing with Ben Simmons

[01:44:37] [SPEAKER_00]: If it was your back or if it was your relationship with the team

[01:44:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Just sit the whole year

[01:44:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't try to come back

[01:44:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Just sit back

[01:44:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You're young, you're gonna get time

[01:44:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you don't get to play from 26 to 27

[01:44:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That's fine

[01:44:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You'll get to play from 27 to 34

[01:44:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But like I said in the case of Michael Vick

[01:44:56] [SPEAKER_00]: If he done siphonos two years

[01:44:57] [SPEAKER_00]: He had broken his leg

[01:44:58] [SPEAKER_00]: He was constantly getting hit

[01:45:00] [SPEAKER_00]: He admittedly never read the playbook

[01:45:03] [SPEAKER_00]: He never knew

[01:45:04] [SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't a lot audible with Jim Mora Jr

[01:45:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So basically if he didn't know what the play was

[01:45:10] [SPEAKER_00]: He would just roll left and just go

[01:45:12] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like my athletic ability was gonna get me through

[01:45:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Well there's

[01:45:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Corners that run just as fast as him

[01:45:17] [SPEAKER_00]: There's safeties that run at an angle

[01:45:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Just as fast as him

[01:45:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're hitting him every time

[01:45:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So he got two years and not get hit

[01:45:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said we talked about Peyton Manning

[01:45:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Tom Brady when he

[01:45:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Torez ACL on week one

[01:45:30] [SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't trying to come back

[01:45:31] [SPEAKER_00]: For the playoff run

[01:45:33] [SPEAKER_00]: He was like

[01:45:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You would have thought that if anybody would have it would have been him

[01:45:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That intensity Kobe with the Achilles

[01:45:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And his fingers like his fingers

[01:45:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Just sat

[01:45:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Just like just sit back

[01:45:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like get your body right

[01:45:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Fingering out

[01:45:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Fingers of his career

[01:45:52] [SPEAKER_00]: They would just pop him back into place all the time

[01:45:56] [SPEAKER_00]: His fingers just extended

[01:45:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he popped his back into place

[01:46:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe for all those people that bang on his

[01:46:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Efficiency maybe he would have been a little more efficient

[01:46:04] [SPEAKER_01]: If his fingers got fixed

[01:46:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Dwight Howard

[01:46:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Dwight Howard was playing through back issues

[01:46:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Trying to

[01:46:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Prove to Kobe and then we with the Houston

[01:46:14] [SPEAKER_00]: That you know I'm not soft

[01:46:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Dog just sit out

[01:46:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Get right for a year

[01:46:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Because when he did

[01:46:20] [SPEAKER_00]: When he essentially went to not getting a lot of

[01:46:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Burn and he went to the Lakers

[01:46:25] [SPEAKER_00]: He was a viable piece in that 2020 championship

[01:46:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it was like

[01:46:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Derrick Rose

[01:46:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Derrick Rose Derrick Rose

[01:46:33] [SPEAKER_00]: You'd never see Derrick Rose trying to fight his way back

[01:46:35] [SPEAKER_00]: On the court he just gets healthy

[01:46:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he gets healthy he gets his time

[01:46:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And now we see him out there playing

[01:46:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy like is this

[01:46:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It has to be some science to it

[01:46:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I know they give these guys these timelines

[01:46:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You look at guys like I said like Adrian Peterson

[01:46:49] [SPEAKER_00]: When he came back in nine months

[01:46:51] [SPEAKER_00]: That first game he broke through

[01:46:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But you'd never see

[01:46:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Adrian Peterson get chased down from behind

[01:46:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he ended up still scoring a touchdown

[01:47:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But normally you don't even chase him

[01:47:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Once he gets through once he gets to the second level

[01:47:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It's over

[01:47:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But that first game back from that ACL

[01:47:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Surgery granted it was only nine months

[01:47:11] [SPEAKER_00]: RG3

[01:47:13] [SPEAKER_00]: RG3's career is way different

[01:47:14] [SPEAKER_00]: If he just doesn't play that

[01:47:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Playoff game let Kirk Cousins do his thing

[01:47:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But just so concerned with his spot

[01:47:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Being taken out there

[01:47:22] [SPEAKER_00]: With the Adidas sleeve on

[01:47:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if you need that much stuff on

[01:47:25] [SPEAKER_00]: For you to stay warm

[01:47:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And braced up

[01:47:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Then just stay like because

[01:47:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Matter of fact he came back early

[01:47:34] [SPEAKER_00]: For the playoff game

[01:47:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Came back in the beginning

[01:47:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Of the season

[01:47:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he tore the ACL like reaching for the ball

[01:47:42] [SPEAKER_00]: They took him out to field

[01:47:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Kirk Cousins and then came

[01:47:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Then essentially I want to say forced his way back

[01:47:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But like oh he's just you know

[01:47:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So prepared

[01:47:51] [SPEAKER_00]: On a rookie deal it was a good deal

[01:47:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Back in the day like 2012

[01:47:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You're getting a good rookie deal

[01:47:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Get healthy if you gotta go to another team

[01:48:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Leaks be healthy

[01:48:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Well it goes back to that conversation

[01:48:03] [SPEAKER_01]: That we had before we came on

[01:48:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Where we were talking about LeBron

[01:48:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And people would say this

[01:48:09] [SPEAKER_01]: People would say that football is one of those sports

[01:48:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Where if RG3 didn't play that

[01:48:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Playoff game

[01:48:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Then everybody's questioning his toughness

[01:48:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You know questioning if he's the guy

[01:48:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Questioning if Washington made a mistake

[01:48:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think

[01:48:24] [SPEAKER_01]: With football

[01:48:26] [SPEAKER_01]: The pride kicks in

[01:48:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I think basketball maybe they just want to play

[01:48:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But with football I think there's a certain pride

[01:48:32] [SPEAKER_01]: That comes with it

[01:48:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's what did RG3 in

[01:48:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Phillip Rear was playing

[01:48:38] [SPEAKER_00]: The ASC Championship game

[01:48:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Against the Wienling with the ACL

[01:48:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I think him and LaDanie were

[01:48:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Big

[01:48:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Big braces on look like they had a third leg

[01:48:48] [SPEAKER_00]: On

[01:48:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like dog what are you going to do on two weeks

[01:48:52] [SPEAKER_00]: When you play in Super Bowl if you do win this game

[01:48:54] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to get any better

[01:48:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So like I said just

[01:48:59] [SPEAKER_00]: If you

[01:48:59] [SPEAKER_00]: If you got a ligament tear

[01:49:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And a vital ligament that you need

[01:49:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Or it actually tears

[01:49:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Calibri

[01:49:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You tore your ACL in December

[01:49:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You came

[01:49:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Back to play for a team that was like

[01:49:14] [SPEAKER_00]: One and eight

[01:49:16] [SPEAKER_00]: In November

[01:49:17] [SPEAKER_00]: To do what

[01:49:18] [SPEAKER_00]: To be out there with teammates that are going to be

[01:49:21] [SPEAKER_00]: All different next year

[01:49:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Good luck against San Francisco this weekend

[01:49:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Running for your life

[01:49:27] [SPEAKER_00]: From Fred Warner and Greenlaw

[01:49:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And Bolsa

[01:49:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And Chase Young and Gregory

[01:49:35] And

[01:49:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Ken Law

[01:49:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Ridiculous

[01:49:39] [SPEAKER_00]: One of corner blitzes

[01:49:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make any sense to

[01:49:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Put your liver in

[01:49:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Because when you get injured you're going to get replaced anyway

[01:49:48] [SPEAKER_00]: When you're already under contract

[01:49:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Jimmy Garoppolo

[01:49:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Look at Jimmy Garoppolo keep trying to come back

[01:49:53] [SPEAKER_00]: For stuff dog you are injured

[01:49:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Just sit out

[01:49:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Quick side note did you see

[01:49:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Fred Warner and Matt Kaft the other day

[01:50:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo the picture that I saw

[01:50:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Made it look like

[01:50:06] [SPEAKER_00]: He like it was like a

[01:50:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Thumbnail he was holding him like this

[01:50:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Made it look like he would pick them up over his head

[01:50:13] [SPEAKER_00]: He rolled him to the left

[01:50:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But like what got me was like

[01:50:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Matt Kaft just walking up to him

[01:50:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And putting both hands on his face mask

[01:50:23] [SPEAKER_01]: What

[01:50:24] [SPEAKER_00]: The suplex

[01:50:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The suplex was the craziest but

[01:50:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Listen first of all you're not going to fight

[01:50:31] You're not going to fight

[01:50:34] [SPEAKER_00]: But the you could do

[01:50:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I think

[01:50:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Tackling a dude

[01:50:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Might be more impactful than punching a guy

[01:50:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if I can hit you

[01:50:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if I take

[01:50:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what

[01:50:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to just get a blindside block on you

[01:50:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Next chance I get

[01:50:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that hurts more

[01:50:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Than me slap you in a helmet

[01:50:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Jerking on your face mask

[01:50:57] [SPEAKER_00]: If I'm going to do something that's going to get me fine

[01:50:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And or like you know kicked out of the game

[01:51:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to get a good hit in

[01:51:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why they still punch themselves

[01:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to keep my eye on Tyron Kill this week

[01:51:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You know our MVP because

[01:51:12] [SPEAKER_01]: When he got injured last night

[01:51:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was going to be a lot worse than it was

[01:51:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it looked like

[01:51:18] [SPEAKER_01]: There was a bit of a horse collar involved as well

[01:51:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So

[01:51:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking like the worst

[01:51:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah but I thought Trevor Lawrence

[01:51:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Injury was going to be worse

[01:51:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was I mean well I mean he didn't look good

[01:51:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Like

[01:51:31] [SPEAKER_00]: No no no I'm talking about when it happened

[01:51:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I watched it

[01:51:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he took his helmet off

[01:51:38] [SPEAKER_00]: When he slammed his helmet

[01:51:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking about recently Jalen Phillips

[01:51:42] [SPEAKER_00]: The Miami linebacker

[01:51:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And when he

[01:51:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You know I mean like it was the audio

[01:51:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how they had the audio that precise

[01:51:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Man is heart breaking

[01:51:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Just hearing him

[01:51:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like realize like when everyone's coming around

[01:51:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he was sitting there

[01:51:57] [SPEAKER_00]: He kept his helmet on

[01:51:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[01:51:59] [SPEAKER_00]: They came around

[01:52:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I think I popped my killies

[01:52:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I definitely popped it

[01:52:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And then when he realized like

[01:52:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm done

[01:52:08] [SPEAKER_00]: In theory he's done through next season

[01:52:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Taking our advice

[01:52:15] [SPEAKER_00]: From this you know from our C block here

[01:52:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He's done through

[01:52:21] [SPEAKER_00]: November

[01:52:22] [SPEAKER_00]: 2024

[01:52:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Just take it all

[01:52:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Just take the whole time

[01:52:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Renegotiate your contract

[01:52:31] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're up for a contract

[01:52:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Take that whole time and if

[01:52:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You know if you gotta go another team I get it

[01:52:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was easier said than done Because I'm in this position

[01:52:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm in this room here with a bookshelf

[01:52:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to a regular ass job

[01:52:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Tomorrow

[01:52:44] [SPEAKER_00]: To be like hey just take that year off

[01:52:46] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you see

[01:52:48] [SPEAKER_00]: If you come back too early

[01:52:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're no good they're gonna get rid of you

[01:52:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Your miles will go in and stay

[01:52:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me

[01:52:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Well he's still

[01:52:56] [SPEAKER_01]: He's still on the rookie deal

[01:52:57] [SPEAKER_01]: He got drafted in 21

[01:53:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[01:53:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So he'll be there

[01:53:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Unless they do the heartbreak thing

[01:53:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And cut them

[01:53:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Because we've seen that from

[01:53:11] [SPEAKER_00]: They do it in college

[01:53:13] [SPEAKER_00]: College they give you six months to rehab

[01:53:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[01:53:16] [SPEAKER_01]: College they don't gotta renew that scholarship

[01:53:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Year to year

[01:53:19] [SPEAKER_00]: They all they gotta give you that six months to rehab

[01:53:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Or whatever like the doctor

[01:53:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Recommendations but normally like most things

[01:53:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Most ligamentaries give you six months

[01:53:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And then they can release you from your scholarship

[01:53:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that's so crazy to me

[01:53:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah at a young

[01:53:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Troop he went to

[01:53:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Grambling he was telling me

[01:53:36] [SPEAKER_00]: He tore something I can't remember what it was

[01:53:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe broken collarbone or

[01:53:41] [SPEAKER_00]: He either broke something

[01:53:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Or tore something

[01:53:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But he was like I was on their insurance

[01:53:46] [SPEAKER_00]: For six months and at the end of

[01:53:48] [SPEAKER_00]: The six months they cleared me

[01:53:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And then

[01:53:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That was it

[01:53:53] [SPEAKER_00]: He was like I was a walk on

[01:53:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So that was it

[01:53:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't at a scholarship so he's like

[01:54:00] [SPEAKER_00]: After that six months

[01:54:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I was done

[01:54:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow

[01:54:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That's so heartbreaking man

[01:54:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Just to put in all the hard work

[01:54:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That it took to make the team as a walk on

[01:54:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Trying to beat out scholarship

[01:54:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Players he's like man I will run on the field

[01:54:16] [SPEAKER_00]: If it was 10 guys on the field

[01:54:18] [SPEAKER_00]: On punt return or kickoff

[01:54:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Or on a play

[01:54:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know you gotta imagine

[01:54:24] [SPEAKER_00]: He said I run out there and get right in position

[01:54:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And they didn't want to waste a time out

[01:54:29] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like they run to play

[01:54:30] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like I'd hit somebody

[01:54:31] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like I'd hit somebody as hard as I could to show

[01:54:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You gotta imagine going through something like that

[01:54:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Like

[01:54:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He was probably

[01:54:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Competing against guys that

[01:54:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Were good enough to go to LSU

[01:54:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But maybe they got in trouble

[01:54:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Or you know a guy that was

[01:54:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Going to go to Louisiana

[01:54:49] [SPEAKER_01]: To the raging Cajuns but his grades

[01:54:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Weren't good enough, something you know what I mean

[01:54:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I got it they won it

[01:54:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Over him like maybe he was like

[01:54:57] [SPEAKER_00]: They just they wanted the other

[01:54:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Scott they wanted the guys that they were

[01:55:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Paying for to play

[01:55:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean which makes sense yeah

[01:55:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You know I was beating them out

[01:55:08] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like I was beating them in practice

[01:55:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I was beating them anytime I got in the field

[01:55:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was trying to beat him up but it was like

[01:55:13] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like I couldn't get

[01:55:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't string together

[01:55:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Time and then you know

[01:55:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You get hurt. That's crazy you know

[01:55:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Baker Mayfield was a walk on

[01:55:23] [SPEAKER_00]: We got a grind

[01:55:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[01:55:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Hats off you know what I mean

[01:55:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm not the biggest Baker Mayfield fan

[01:55:30] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know but hats off

[01:55:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It takes a lot to go from

[01:55:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Walk on to Heisman

[01:55:37] [SPEAKER_00]: To number one pick but then they treated

[01:55:39] [SPEAKER_00]: In the same way you got treated I think that's why

[01:55:41] [SPEAKER_00]: He's I think that's why he's doing better

[01:55:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Than a guy like Zach Wilson

[01:55:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he had to work for it

[01:55:47] [SPEAKER_00]: He had to get slapped around

[01:55:49] [SPEAKER_00]: A little bit in college where Zach

[01:55:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I think Zach went to BYU

[01:55:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And we we could we talked about

[01:55:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Utah sports all the time you are king

[01:55:57] [SPEAKER_00]: In Utah if you're an athlete

[01:56:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Gordon Haywood, Carl Malone

[01:56:01] [SPEAKER_00]: John Stockton, Darren Williams

[01:56:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Boozer

[01:56:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Alex Smith

[01:56:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Kyle Winnihan the head coach

[01:56:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably Bronco Middenhall

[01:56:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You got guys like Fred Warner

[01:56:12] [SPEAKER_00]: If these guys come back

[01:56:13] [SPEAKER_00]: They just they do whatever

[01:56:15] [SPEAKER_00]: They just come back to the city

[01:56:16] [SPEAKER_00]: They are considered kings because that is

[01:56:19] [SPEAKER_00]: They are the gladiator

[01:56:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Figures for the state

[01:56:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You being the top quarterback

[01:56:25] [SPEAKER_00]: For BYU I believe

[01:56:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe

[01:56:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I think Taysum Hill

[01:56:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously Taysum Hill was there

[01:56:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I think one or

[01:56:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Each one of them beat Utah in a rivalry game

[01:56:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Could be wrong

[01:56:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to misquote but

[01:56:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially if you beat Utah

[01:56:43] [SPEAKER_00]: If you win a rivalry game your quarterback at BYU

[01:56:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You're Steve Young

[01:56:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Your Jim McMahon

[01:56:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Your Steve Sarkesian

[01:56:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Ty Demmer like these are legendary

[01:56:52] [SPEAKER_00]: We all know these quarterbacks

[01:56:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Taysum Hill like these guys are

[01:56:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Jack Wilson said that same

[01:56:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Elk as far as like what Utah

[01:57:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Thinks of it in the state of Utah

[01:57:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas Baker Mayfield

[01:57:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Walk on here

[01:57:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Cast off here

[01:57:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Transferred here

[01:57:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Still with the hyphen

[01:57:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Goes number one overall

[01:57:15] [SPEAKER_00]: The team gets another guy

[01:57:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And brings them in and then sends you off

[01:57:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[01:57:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of Utah they just might be

[01:57:23] [SPEAKER_01]: My big 12 favorites going into next year

[01:57:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I know that we're far far

[01:57:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Far away but Kam

[01:57:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Rising is finally going to be back

[01:57:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like 29 years old

[01:57:33] [SPEAKER_01]: They're bringing back all 11

[01:57:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Starters on offense

[01:57:39] [SPEAKER_01]: That's unheard of so you know

[01:57:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And nobody in the

[01:57:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Not one school in the big 12

[01:57:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That goes to Utah plays

[01:57:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Anywhere near that level of elevation

[01:57:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Everything gets flat

[01:57:53] [SPEAKER_01]: They're bringing Colorado with them

[01:57:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know that's about it

[01:57:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Well Colorado's the only one

[01:57:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah yeah but now that

[01:57:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Deion got some linemen

[01:58:01] [SPEAKER_01]: We might get some good Utah

[01:58:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Colorado games

[01:58:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Transfer reporter goes to Boulder

[01:58:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Apparently

[01:58:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I don't know

[01:58:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I brought up Lincoln earlier

[01:58:12] [SPEAKER_00]: If you think

[01:58:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I talked about this before

[01:58:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody knew what Deion needed

[01:58:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he said

[01:58:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he got Louis

[01:58:23] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I said the other day

[01:58:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he got Louis but he got Hugo Boss at least

[01:58:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I mean

[01:58:28] [SPEAKER_00]: If you improved

[01:58:32] [SPEAKER_00]: The athleticism

[01:58:34] [SPEAKER_00]: From last year to this year

[01:58:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you can coach that up

[01:58:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Because sometimes like you know

[01:58:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It's coaching

[01:58:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Athleticism is a combination

[01:58:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you can have a team full of

[01:58:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Bill Belichick can take the practice squad

[01:58:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And win a

[01:58:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Regal season NFL game

[01:58:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It does take

[01:58:53] [SPEAKER_00]: A balance

[01:58:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas you have

[01:58:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Jim Harbaugh took

[01:58:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Mike Singletary's team and took them to Super Bowl

[01:59:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You had the talent there

[01:59:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You just need to scheme the match

[01:59:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And need to get one more tight in here

[01:59:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Or find out what offense attack will play

[01:59:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Tight in college and have them reporters

[01:59:10] [SPEAKER_00]: What have you got to do

[01:59:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Get rid of the running

[01:59:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Pocket passer

[01:59:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And just bring in the quarterback that runs

[01:59:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And give him some pocket passes

[01:59:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever you have to do, whatever schematically you have to do

[01:59:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think Dion

[01:59:24] [SPEAKER_00]: If

[01:59:25] [SPEAKER_00]: He landed the one

[01:59:28] [SPEAKER_00]: The top

[01:59:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Rated offensive tackle

[01:59:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Now

[01:59:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Dion goes to

[01:59:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Your

[01:59:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Four like your bundle of

[01:59:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Four or five star wide receivers

[01:59:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Like listen our protection is going to be

[01:59:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Top notch

[01:59:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be able to get open

[01:59:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I got Shador Sanders

[01:59:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think he got another four star

[01:59:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Commit from class of 2025

[01:59:53] [SPEAKER_00]: To commit

[01:59:55] [SPEAKER_00]: A white quarterback I forgot what his name was

[01:59:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought they lost that one

[02:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw that they

[02:00:01] [SPEAKER_00]: He committed

[02:00:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I know he had a black quarterback that

[02:00:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Decommitted

[02:00:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I thought they had lost a quarter

[02:00:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody

[02:00:10] [SPEAKER_00]: They're all wearing number two

[02:00:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Every picture seems like

[02:00:14] [SPEAKER_00]: They're all wearing number two

[02:00:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's going to be a thing

[02:00:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Where the Colorado quarterback wears two

[02:00:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that was Dion's number

[02:00:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think that might be

[02:00:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to put this two on you

[02:00:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Put this two on your back

[02:00:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And you front of your back and put this L in the chest

[02:00:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Wear it right

[02:00:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And I got you coach

[02:00:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Also I got four or five star

[02:00:34] [SPEAKER_00]: All offensive tackle

[02:00:35] [SPEAKER_00]: All offensive linemen in front of you

[02:00:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And a couple of five star whatever

[02:00:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Sees for you throw to you

[02:00:40] [SPEAKER_00]: That's probably all it is

[02:00:42] [SPEAKER_00]: If I'm going to run it back

[02:00:43] [SPEAKER_00]: If I know I got a highly offensive

[02:00:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Highly charismatic coach in Dion

[02:00:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And like oh you fixed offensive line

[02:00:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[02:00:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to go to Nebraska

[02:00:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So I want to go to Colorado

[02:00:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you have Shador for at least one more year

[02:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And whatever he's getting in the NIL deal

[02:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[02:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And then kind of continue this legacy

[02:01:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he'll be able to really

[02:01:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Build it back up

[02:01:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Matt Ruhl whatever he did

[02:01:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I say he's doing some convincing

[02:01:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh

[02:01:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean

[02:01:16] [SPEAKER_00]: He might have a shot

[02:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But this SEC is about to get thick

[02:01:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to be tough

[02:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Nebraska will finally make a bowl game

[02:01:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know they haven't made one since 2017

[02:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: They try pretty hard though

[02:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah they were five and three at one point

[02:01:31] [SPEAKER_01]: This year and you know

[02:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Just the wheels on the bus went

[02:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Round and round and you know fell off

[02:01:37] [SPEAKER_01]: All through the town

[02:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So you know uh but yeah he's got the

[02:01:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Two quarterbacks coming in he's got

[02:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: If well it's not official yet

[02:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But all indicators point to McCourt

[02:01:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Going there so he's got his quarterback

[02:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: For next year between all three

[02:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Quarterbacks that they played this year

[02:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Ten touchdowns and sixteen

[02:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Interceptions

[02:01:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You know so um

[02:02:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Any

[02:02:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Upgrade same thing with Colorado's offense

[02:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Line any upgrade that quarterback

[02:02:04] [SPEAKER_01]: For Nebraska

[02:02:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're a bold beneficial yeah

[02:02:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You know um so yeah so

[02:02:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You know it is what it is the portals

[02:02:12] [SPEAKER_01]: In effect sports reports his order

[02:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Is in effect

[02:02:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Killing it

[02:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So yo do us a favor

[02:02:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Like review share

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[02:02:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to John and Molly's Philadelphia

[02:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: 76ers fans

[02:02:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Got some followers last week so I

[02:02:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Forgot I shoot him with the other Philly

[02:02:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I got a bet that Alabama's

[02:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Gonna beat Michigan so he's

[02:02:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Gonna owe me a shot here in about a month

[02:02:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll let you south

[02:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I got you

[02:02:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I got you just get my Dutch

[02:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to Draymond Green just in case

[02:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You thought he was soft he out here

[02:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Putting paws on people

[02:02:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying

[02:02:53] [SPEAKER_00]: You gotta stop doing that man

[02:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Stop it

[02:02:57] [SPEAKER_01]: All this sailing around

[02:02:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Stop it

[02:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But yo we gonna be back on Thursday

[02:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And of course you know what that means

[02:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Thursday means picks

[02:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So

[02:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: NFL week 15

[02:03:12] [SPEAKER_00]: We have great explanations of our

[02:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: picks and then it happens on Sunday

[02:03:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like I wouldn't even close

[02:03:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey all I know is

[02:03:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I picked Buffalo to beat Kansas City

[02:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[02:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I picked Dallas to beat Philadelphia

[02:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I picked Dallas to beat Philadelphia

[02:03:30] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I know

[02:03:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh I'm an idiot

[02:03:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I picked KC Philly

[02:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Green Bay Miami

[02:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And I felt

[02:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I shouldn't have picked any of those

[02:03:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And we both picked Atlanta

[02:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna pick Atlanta by the way

[02:03:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But I did get the big pick right though

[02:03:54] [SPEAKER_00]: 27

[02:03:56] [SPEAKER_01]: 27 to nothing

[02:03:58] [SPEAKER_01]: 27 to nothing by a week over

[02:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Washington so I got that one

[02:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You know I'm in Davis out for the season now

[02:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: How you out for the season during my week

[02:04:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Chicago baby

[02:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey at least you picked Denver

[02:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah so it's like 3 for 11

[02:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I picked Houston

[02:04:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Well I got Houston

[02:04:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Baltimore

[02:04:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I see if CJ Sparrow played this weekend

[02:04:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Cincinnati won

[02:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like in theapolis boss I picked Atlanta

[02:04:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Atlanta lost I picked Cleveland

[02:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh and he lost that too

[02:04:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah 1 2 3 4 5

[02:04:42] [SPEAKER_00]: 6

[02:04:44] Yeah

[02:04:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I did do well

[02:04:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but Joe we gonna get it better this week

[02:04:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Two days away Thursday

[02:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back until then

[02:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: America

[02:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: We love you

[02:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: We love you

[02:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: He is mythological

[02:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: We are too far

[02:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And we out