Is It Really An Overreaction?
Sports Reports As OrderedJanuary 17, 202402:02:40112.32 MB

Is It Really An Overreaction?

Mr. Logical calls out referees and their lack of accountability. (02:10) Two-Five tells the average American to fight and stand up. #boycottpeacock (11:55) Super Wildcard Weekend is over so it’s time for overreactions! Is it time for Tua to go? (16:25) Are coaches getting off the hook for leaving kids high and dry? (1:01:10) Around the Association is back as the guys provide thoughts on the T-Wolves, Knicks, and others. (127:40)

[00:00:02] Yes, you are now listening to the sounds of sports reports as Ordered. And y'all, everybody welcome on this. Welcome in that. Two of us have welcomed in the first place. How we welcome him back. You know what I'm saying? That man, that like, like, good job.

[00:00:23] Yeah, it's a movement baby, big as movies, this dip set. But like, we acted like this man that it lived in Alabama. I went to Alabama in the winter in December. It gets cold down there. Very noticeable what I saw Saturday night.

[00:00:40] And we go get to that, you know, said, but along with talking about the playoff, you gotta have some overreaction. I think I got an overreaction for you. Then of course, we're gonna talk about some NBA. And then this is the logical ask me a question this morning.

[00:01:00] He didn't stand in these words. It's my words. But what's up with the coaches transfer report? Questions, questions, questions, questions that need answers. But as I said, I said his name by my as well introduced him. New Jerusalem. You're gonna force back that again. Awesome. A year.

[00:01:29] Virginia bread, even cure. You'll never shake a month. Never want to happen. He is the psychological and I. And be a centric. Eclactic. Charismatic. And let's go. New Verologist. Two, five. We're gonna get this thing started. We did it off my chest. You know what's funny about that?

[00:02:06] We didn't even talk about getting off my chest. So like I don't even know who going first. I don't even know like let's go around. I'll go first. I'm not saying anything to have all the time man. Like like these referees and every level college basketball, ABA NFL.

[00:02:28] I just like they got to come over something. You got it. We got to come with a better plan either the referees that are on the field have to be as athletic as a participant because a lot of times even with you sports.

[00:02:46] I noticed some of the older referees and basketball. They go from the corner to have court. The other one goes from the other. That side of that comment is work this way. They don't go all the way down the court.

[00:03:00] So that's always a problem because you're calling files away back here. You don't see and then are calling out a balance calls, you know see it in that of referees. Like the coaches get mad at the rest and not at rest call them the technicals

[00:03:12] and you know freshman basketball game because you aren't adequately managing the space. It's like, oh these guys are young. We only need to rest. Well, if you 54 and you chasing 40 rules, you need to be in position. It's the same thing that NFL.

[00:03:28] I know it was like I talked to my dad about this when I was younger. Like why did Russell with your little, like what do they figure? You know older people make more like the wise or decisions. A lot of times it's out of place.

[00:03:38] You talked about it in the Buffalo game when George Pickett was trying to make a catch in the corner. Our fan through snowball from the stands. Now the ball is coming there like wise it to the point where they're not seeing that.

[00:03:52] Or not not being able to confer on the field because that one pass at frapp. Like frapp was held. Well, not know there was like they call a holding on I think it was like thought and

[00:04:06] can cater to us and I just want to guys run an out row. Well, the when they call a pass in the appearance. That was the fact that it was not catchable. So they talked talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk.

[00:04:17] And then they're up calling holding because it looked like it was going to be passed in the appearance because it's a time to throw the flag came but they were like oh, it was holding.

[00:04:24] I was like, well he's holding up from a pass so he couldn't get to anyway. So in that conference, I was like, well, he wasn't going to get to that ball no matter what why call the holding call.

[00:04:35] So he's and I think the rules the rules don't help the refs either because now they have to call more stuff that's more impactful. Which then makes it look like they're putting their imprint on the game.

[00:04:46] What and they should on top of the times when they are in the way. Like a holding call shouldn't be automatic first time. I just third and 20, I got a holding call should be five of our family. We played third down.

[00:04:57] You get another shot to get this 20 yards. You shouldn't get a free 10 yards or free first down. Simply because of a holding call or illegal contact. Every while I receive a runs into a corner if he doesn't brace himself, he's going to get run over.

[00:05:14] Now he's not getting paid his family that eaten because every time they run a stop run in front of me, he could bump the fall down. Well, I can't use my hands to stop them, which is a five yard automatic first down.

[00:05:25] So you got to get a third and 20 run right into a lineback or turn around. Is it good contact? So I think the rest of the rules, it's not a marriage.

[00:05:35] It's like when you call a running place should be blocked this certain way so that the running direction works. It feels like they have their colonies plays but the impact that a ref res making it look way worse.

[00:05:47] The rest of the rest of them, I'm trying to call this straight up. So I got a call if you hit the quarterback in the head or if he slides. But there should be some kind of nuance like listen, if the tackle was already in position to make

[00:06:00] the tackle and you slid, then it's a no call. If you hit you on the head, but if he lands on you, it's starting to go, you slid, you're already going to ground and can't hurt that back.

[00:06:10] But if it's you on the head, okay, then the penalty is there. But you can't do with Josh Allen did fake the slide. I like Kenny pick it in the ball game, coming years back and then make the guy hold up

[00:06:23] and then run for a touchdown and then later slide leap where miles jack was already coming to make the tackle. Once again, the rest making the call, we want to believe everything on the rest but the rules are

[00:06:32] putting them in the back because they should have they needed to marry the rules to the floor of the game and not to the floor of fantasy football because you want to get points. That's my that's my two cents on it.

[00:06:43] You know, I was it was confusing to me because I was watching this was week 17. I was watching the Packers in the Bears and there was a play where Justin Fields slid and the defender came through with the people's elbow and basically like

[00:06:59] bring his head into the turf and everything and didn't call anything. So I went back and looked at it a few times and first of all, it was a grieges. Second of all, there were people all over Twitter saying or X saying that

[00:07:12] Justin Fields didn't get a rough thing call or a one of those calls all year on the slide. Now, I don't know that to be true or not but I saw that from a lot of people and it doesn't

[00:07:24] surprise me because we had the same conversation centered around Cam Doot. We were still you know, he was still playing. So they're game. Remember the game? Yeah. So so what we've learned is that the quarterbacks are the cash cows, the quarterbacks, you know,

[00:07:41] baseball chicks did the long ball football. It's all about the quarterback. So I understand to some degree why you want to have rules in place to protect the quarterback. That just wasn't the moment. You know, that just wasn't the moment.

[00:07:55] Josh Alistar to this slide after Miles Jack and a stirred down and he showed it a lot of the game. Right. So once again, the rest of the game, the way you allow these rules to be written and

[00:08:09] call throughout the past few years, you impact it because Pittsburgh had already blocked one of field goal. Right. The holder was the pointer he's hurt. I'm not sure if they put a backup holder in when they kicked the next field goal.

[00:08:25] But now there is potential is Wendy is called. Now they have to kick the field goal from there. You never know what happens. Right. You know, Pittsburgh has a chance and they have a chance because they played sound defense. They had to spy on.

[00:08:39] So they did everything in their power to affect the game with their athleticism, but it was legislated away from an unoamusing the Pittsburgh game. To the example, but those had to those game, that game was probably the closest game of the weekend.

[00:08:55] I know the trait and LA had a couple of calls as couple of like, that's a whole different kind of thing. I thought Matt Stappard died on the field for a second. You don't know. But you never know if you got offensive line and pushing 300 pound

[00:09:09] due to the back, it's only he can't just stop on the dime. Right. And if one guy is hitting staff at one to way, and the other guy is getting pushed into them. It happens.

[00:09:19] But you know, those plays where you're tugging and passing the parents and things that they've got to call it. But and those those bank bank judgment plays, given that call, essentially giving that call to Josh Allen on that late slide. Cost Pittsburgh their next opportunity at the game.

[00:09:40] I'm saying it's going to be a cause from the game, but it costs definitely cost from the next opportunity. They did it. It deflated them because Buffalo scored a couple of plays later. And then people say, oh, they scored anyway. It didn't matter.

[00:09:51] Like no, well, they wouldn't have the kick of fuel goal. Right. That will be case. Right. So yeah, like Pittsburgh needed all the stops they could get because that offense was having to work. You know, so like it changed the game in some ways because that was Pittsburgh's

[00:10:08] chance to try to get possession and tie the game up. So it's not as if they were down 14 and we're like, oh, hey, they had an opportunity to cut it to one score.

[00:10:19] Like you literally took away any chance that they had to win the game at that point. Yeah. So it was not a one-up time left. Great yet. You don't throw reds on any substance in the first half.

[00:10:30] You know, if you're not in this position, but in the same sense. The football, you know, that pickin''s had and fire move, all both had another would. Yeah, that was close. But it also based mass one is foot was out of bounds. That's I know you hate that.

[00:10:45] I hate it. And at least that's a definitive line. I hate it as much as I hate the whole, you know, we were wise to get the team. Yeah. And they made the interception and AJ Brown touched this foot and they were like, oh,

[00:11:01] he's down by context and I'm like, he didn't even get contacted. He initiated the contact. The rule I hate the most. I know people hate the foam below the back of the insolm. Look at our get-takes for that too. I hate that too. I know.

[00:11:13] I think that's fine. Don't foam above all the back of the insolm. You shouldn't get it back if you don't want to. I hate the blick. I hate brick the plane. I like brick the plane. I don't like brick the plane.

[00:11:22] You know, the kickoff out of bounds with a ball's close to the sideline and the returner runs and stands out again. Yeah. I hate that rule. I have no idea why I said, you know what I hate? I hate what these dudes just don't catch the kickoff anymore.

[00:11:36] You know what I'm like. They don't even try to explain to anybody. Everybody all like, you know, that's how you do. So I'm running everything back. You see that all this was on the whole of Fame ballot. I'm running every kickoff back.

[00:11:50] You all get eight get out of my chest. They're one. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, so my get it off my chest. You know what I'm saying? I stole a little bit of this idea. So I'm gonna get credit with credit this new.

[00:12:02] You know, my guy, you know, L. Residude Tay. You know, from the hot box, Ray John Lewis, he came up with the hashtag boycott peacock. You know, but I wanted to talk about that for a second because y'all make me sick.

[00:12:16] You don't say it every time all I hear from everybody that I talk to. This person's group me, they did this. They're greedy. All they care about is money. XYZ, they did me wrong and you had a chance Saturday night to make a state that

[00:12:36] will take planning the fuck with. And peacock got out here and said, yo, we're exclusively down. It's one thing if this is a regular season game. You know, said it's one thing if this is a preseason game even. You know, but I play off game.

[00:12:53] We are going to exclusively hold this game on a paid service that not everybody has. So I was like, okay, now I was in college station. You know, I was taking, you know, taking my baby out. You know, she bought the start school this week.

[00:13:10] You know, and get her some stuff for her apartment. We went to chilies and they had the TV on and I saw a chief said, don't visit. I was like, oh, chilies paid for peacock? Like, I mean, it's only five hours, whatever.

[00:13:22] But I was like chili, but then they were watching NBC and then when it cut off, we'll afford to came on. You know, so I was sitting there doing my new diligence or my stream not watching peacock. So then I get on a Facebook.

[00:13:39] I get on X going out in the timelines and everybody's like, I got my cousins logged it. My cousin's logged in. Oh, yeah, it's only five dollars. I'm not worried about it. And you know, full disclosure, I got peacock, but it's only for the WWE network.

[00:13:54] I don't watch no fucking peacock. You know, so so then I wake up yesterday. And I see 23 million people watched that game on peacock. And this is like, this is the start. This is how it starts. They put Thursday night football on Amazon.

[00:14:15] You know, I had no idea that it wasn't on a regular channel. And to my dad told me maybe like week three this year. Yeah. Because I've had Amazon Prime for so many years. I had no idea that I thought it was on Amazon Prime and

[00:14:32] I've got a cable channel. No, yeah, because last year it was on Amazon Prime and NFL network or CBS. What of them? I think it was a CBS. I think. Yeah. But they did they move this year to exclusively the Amazon.

[00:14:45] So with that one, I'm like, okay, a lot of people probably have Amazon because of the perks that come with being an Amazon Prime subscriber. Got it. But I'm like, peacock who the hell watches peacock y'all sitting up in here watching twisted metal? You know what I said?

[00:15:01] I was just off as I still on it. And I mean, I mean, I go a lot to you. I might want to watch Megan. You don't say it, but that's about it. You don't say it and I watch WrestleMania. You know what I said?

[00:15:12] But this is the problem every year you're going over here. Y'all could play madness the same game. Two K is the same thing. And that's all folk like me. We're like, yo, they don't even make two K for me. No more.

[00:15:24] It's all about the park in the wreck. I'm just trying to get my GM on and win some NBA titles. So you know, so there's my declaration. I'm not buying mad no more. I'm not buying two K no more.

[00:15:37] As old money Jones would say, I'm off that narcotic. I am 25. I approve this message. And that is my getting off my chest. Yeah, absolutely. I'm not sure why the NFL is doing everything they can to just bleed more money out of the park because they can.

[00:15:59] Because they kid, just like everybody, like we go get it to the coaches later. But like when we talk about the transfer of portal, everybody's like, it's ruining college football. You ain't going to stop watching it though. You know, say you're just making a, what is it?

[00:16:13] Who said I think it was Pat Pooce? You just dug you fresh in it, making noise with your mouth. You know, saying that's all you do. Bitch it and complain it and you ain't going to do nothing about it. I'm over it. I'm over it now.

[00:16:28] You don't say we got to get into it. Uh-oh. Hold on, I gotta do some editing here. I got an extra eye in there. But you don't say or extra see or something. I got something extra in there. But a playoff over reaction time.

[00:16:43] You don't say it's a bit theological. Go ahead and get us started. Playoff over reaction. All right, so we'll start with Saturday. Houston, uh, I was out at a pottery class on Saturday. So I missed the Houston game. I made a nice little ramen bowl.

[00:17:03] I should get it about a month. It's pretty dope. Like add little chapstick holes and everything and it was pretty dope. So anybody, one nice little date night pottery class that's the move. Oh yeah, I think you got a couple of months ago, man.

[00:17:16] I'm still living off it. I'm still eating off of that. Yeah, so I got the bowl like I got the ramen tops and holes in it with jett. Every time somebody go over here, she pull out them shot glasses that looked like shit.

[00:17:29] But it don't even matter because it's the thought that counts. Sometimes you got to do what you got to do. But so I was getting updates from you and I got an update from you to say, pick six 31 something and then 34.

[00:17:53] Before I was able to check it, I got another one opened it up and that's when I saw 31 14. Up 30 14, two big sixes. So I was like, well, I'm glad I'm not missing a competitive game. It was, you know, two-day strides, like breakout game.

[00:18:09] But you know, if you think about it, he did the same thing and gets Georgia and the playoff last year where people thought like, we didn't know he could play like this.

[00:18:16] And he just he just seemed to have it and we're going to get into guys who don't and what happens to the team with the best of case. But he seems to have it right.

[00:18:26] But I think people are going to be at the want to pick Houston going forward. I think people are going to want to try to maybe pluck a peep some people from their staff for their coach or positions.

[00:18:40] I would say calm down, I think that's going to be the biggest thing people are going to be trying to just kind of pull people from the Houston staff or you're going to start getting a lot of band-wagon fans.

[00:18:52] I'll talk to the girls, she's from Houston and I was like, so you know, you're going to be you can ride a roof of Houston now. She's like, now I was in the fan of them when I was living in Houston.

[00:19:02] I'm not going to be a fan of that. I moved out. But that's just the thing it is. I think they're going to get a lot of fans and it's going to be a good story.

[00:19:10] I think they might be able to run the AFC sounds and be between them and the course the next few years. So I'm with it. Well, I think the dream of our next race is back. Listen. You had you had job opportunity. You didn't you didn't capture it.

[00:19:25] Yeah, but what is one of your one of your over reactions? My over reaction is, is it time for two would ago because like this is where we are. You know, we talk about we'll get to Dallas obviously,

[00:19:49] you know, where everybody's talking about doing a little bit at the time to blow it up. You know all this kind of stuff like that. I'm not saying Miami needs to blow it up. I'm not saying Mike McDonald's needs to be fired.

[00:19:59] I just wonder if two of can ever get them over the hump because this is not just necessarily relegated to this playoff game. But if we go back through the regular season, even,

[00:20:13] what like Dallas was the only team, you know that they beat with a winning record or something like that. You know, yeah, but the Dallas was the only team with a winning record. So it's probably only played with two. You have to play the ball.

[00:20:27] The ball flow. Yeah, you had the chance. You had the chance to win your now. You know, butterfly effect, right? If they beat Buffalo last week or two weeks ago, with everything that happened, their plan against Pittsburgh at home this past weekend versus

[00:20:48] plan in the blizzard or not even a blizzard, but just plan in an Arctic blast. I'm ice the ice on. Yeah, plan on an article. The fourth, the fourth gauge. The fourth coldest game in NFL history.

[00:21:00] You know, last Miami as a franchise had lost their last 10 games where the weather was under 40 degrees. You know, so 11 now and when I looked at him, he just didn't even want to be there.

[00:21:15] Like, you know, we were talking about Philly. Like people been talking about Philly. Like have they checked out how many players are actually playing, you know, all that stuff. Like, when I saw two of Saturday night, just waiting for the snap, it was literally like,

[00:21:31] there we go. You know, when I saw Mike McDaniel on the sideline, he literally looked annoyed and confused that he even had to be there. I think it's it's it's it's it's it's I've worked

[00:21:42] outside in the flight line out here in Jersey on someone else cold, nice that real feel negative 20 out there change. Did you get paid to use a dollar to do it? It's not a bug getting paid.

[00:21:52] I'm thinking of a stream cold and working and trying to focus if you're like, if you're a big at your job, we're going to put a trophy where you go to with the LaBardi trophy.

[00:22:01] Well, we did the wrong thing because we were so cold, we just, we ripped the wires out and then the next day they brief me to say, it looked like someone cut the wires.

[00:22:12] Yeah, we forgot to take those leads off. So when we started lowering this 200 pound glass, the wires ripped. So my bad, but it was like negative 20 degrees outside in the heater

[00:22:25] car cap breaking. So you just out there just suffering. So you you sewed you through and you get there. But I think and somebody said this, I want to believe is on the rich Eisenhower, he said

[00:22:34] some along lines he wanted to get a report, he had a either reporter or quarterback. Like a quarterback that normally comes with correspondence, he said you're talking to him about

[00:22:47] Mike the Miguel system and how it fits to her. Whereas he said he's going to get him to talk to Exynos and I said this before. If two of can't get to the first read immediately,

[00:23:02] is hard for him to get to the second read because I don't think his arm talent can, because normally the first read right on the front side. Like right in his line of vision

[00:23:13] because it's so quick. Most are then to flat 810 on a, you know, on the big route of whatever, you know, you got wild on the slant, you know, it's super quick right there because you left

[00:23:24] hand it is right here. So that's like two and a half seconds. It's normally very, very fast. Like the play action all the motion, it just to give this window get the body of first read.

[00:23:34] Which is whatever you quarterback supposed to say, like Peyton Manning said 80 to 5% of the time if the first read was open. I do it. That's why it's called the first read. But if it's not open,

[00:23:46] he can't really reset and get the ball back side consistently. Whereas my home's Kelsey's not there, Watson's not there in the S maybe I can get this post or maybe I just reset slash

[00:24:03] and I can make the, you know, extended play to Josh Allen throw to Lamar Jackson throw. I think that's two as problem is that his chat, Pinnitt and kind of arm is limited. No matter it's just some, you're physically limited. Like I said, I'm 5 foot 8 and a half.

[00:24:21] I was physically limited what I can do and any kind of athletic realm. No matter how smart I can see it no matter how I can break it down, no matter how tough our heart I work,

[00:24:30] I'm physically limited. He's in a league where his wide receivers are super fast, but he can't overthrow them. So no matter how fast they are, they have to slow it down and

[00:24:44] have to break those routes off because I remember playing mad when Tyreak was on Kansas City's roster. And every time I would play and with my home's entire year kill, I basically have to just use it with the safety and just just run anytime I thought it was

[00:25:04] a go route. I just would just run them, but where Tyreak was because even on the video game, he was throwing a ball like 70 yards in there so you drop back, you throw the go route,

[00:25:14] you just let it fly. Two will can't do that. Kurt Cousins, I think Kurt Cousins did not all fence work because I think Kurt Cousins has an arm to come back side and get the water

[00:25:26] off. There's not there, I just don't think Tula has any left hand. It's always difficult to it. They were talking a lot of quarterback. The fact that he's left hand, I'm not a lot of

[00:25:35] often support natives have plays. There's an awful event of quarterback. You think it would just be able to flip, but you know that's what I'm afraid that Miami could find himself in a Daniel Jones type

[00:25:49] situation. Obviously, too, is better than Daniel Jones. Two of the obvious? I think it's obvious Tula was the best player in the game. To be fair, to be all honest and fair,

[00:26:04] he does have way better talent around him than Daniel Jones does. So that has to be factored as well. But I think he's better than Daniel Jones. Do you franchise him or is Miami in a position where

[00:26:18] because you know this is the line of conversation that always happens? You know, hey, I think Miami should move on to Tula. I mean, from Tula. Well, who are they going to get that's better?

[00:26:30] They don't got to get better. They don't have to get a quarterback that's better than Tula. They just have to get a quarterback that makes the throws better. You know what I mean? That makes

[00:26:40] those throws you're talking about better. You know, you get, you know, you got a channel most of it. So you don't need to pay humanity running the offense. You know, so, so you know,

[00:26:50] you just need a quarterback, just like the cowboy say, hey, fire Mike McCarthy, who you go get that's better. I don't know, but obviously that shouldn't work. You know, say, but anyway, we'll get to that.

[00:27:01] So so like that's my that was my number one over reaction because I don't want to do hyperbole. I don't want to be that guy. But I was disgusted watching the Miami dolphins and I know

[00:27:12] Chris Cole come for me. But I was disgusted when I watched the Miami dolphins the other night. Like, you know, just from the stand. I don't think it looked as bad as I picked them.

[00:27:25] And what I what I noticed was that as I was watching it play out at this bar that also had it on like an hour tape delay and other side of the bar, which is kind of funny. But they also.

[00:27:38] So I was in the sex at three TVs. Two of the TVs were playing bill of bill, bill of no deal island and woman's plan to football game. I was like, if the Eagles are on,

[00:27:48] it would have been on every channel, but I see they hear me there. I think what it was is that when I was watching it play out, I came to the realization that the weather

[00:28:03] was too much for their style. I like we talked about running a ball. I thought they would be more effective and what deliberate running the ball. I don't feel like they did. And then when Kansas

[00:28:18] City was making plays and they were doing things that I said, Miami was going to do the underneath routes shopping their feet to slow down because she writes to you. When he was making those passes,

[00:28:32] catches, catches for 130. He stopped down. It didn't when he looked up. He's only went there. Then he accelerated. So now you guys coming across as I sheet trying to cut them off,

[00:28:45] well he's already got his balance cut the ball. Now he's in a full sprint. He wasn't making any jokes. He just was like, I'm just going to run as far as I can. I just felt like the Kansas City

[00:28:56] team pre play post snap during the play handle like incorporated the elements of the game into how they play. They threw a lot of short stuff to Kelsey. They ran a ball effectively in the middle.

[00:29:14] They took their shots when they were available. But for the most part, I think they used the elements to their advantage and didn't have the garlic butcher that can kick four field goals.

[00:29:26] It hadn't feel like kicking a rock. I know if you're balls a little softer, but I just think that can't. Once I watched the game as it played out, I just felt like Kansas City used the elements.

[00:29:38] More, a lot of other guys were wearing short sleeves. That's another thing that's a big deal. That's like a big deal and we're about to talk about Korea careers the same way where you had

[00:29:47] like the big tall six foot six foot two, 215 pounds soldier at the DMZ at America soldier. He didn't wear any cool weather gear and he just stared at the North Korean soldiers. Like

[00:29:57] as a intimidation factor, Kelsey out there with no sleeves, Lyme and out there with no sleeves. Why was he? That's that gets to you when you're cornered out there and you're going to school again. Right. Hopefully everybody is doing okay. I know I saw a report where

[00:30:14] there was at least a dozen people being treated for hypothermia. Hopefully everybody's okay. But yeah, that was just my takeaway because you've been by the talking about how Miami averages they lead the league in yards for carry. Well, eight-channel most are combined.

[00:30:32] 14 rushes for 42 yards. You know so you could either have a problem with the fact that they averaged three yards of carry where you got a problem with the fact that they only rushed to ball

[00:30:42] 14 times. That's what I'm saying. I don't I think that that element the the game plan that they wanted to run was for a 55 degree game. Just like silly. Like when I was watching

[00:30:55] Philly last night, you know it was the same it was the same thought that I had. You know I was like dude y'all have thrown the ball 35 times in ran at 15 with Swift. I mean granite he was only 10

[00:31:08] rushes for 34 yards. But you just didn't stay committed to the run because like remember we were talking I don't know if we were offline or if we said this on here a couple of weeks ago

[00:31:18] but we were talking about we were talking about Washington and how Caleb DeBore said even if the run's not working we're still going to run because you have to make the other team

[00:31:30] respect it either way like they stopped you to this point but you could always break one. Yeah, but you can't break one if you're not running. You know in the Eagles have the talent

[00:31:40] slash office of line. It's a break one and they just didn't put themselves in a position. So are you overreaction? Are you team? Seriati pack your bags? I wouldn't do it now because I came with

[00:31:59] something a few years ago when like you know was going through going through life and I was like you know I'm out of unique square one. You know a lot of things kind of like filling on

[00:32:09] itself that were normally pretty stable you know career life time relationship people. A lot of things kind of just kind of just filling and I was like all right I got so much going on

[00:32:22] that I have nothing nowhere to go but up right but now I'm here like okay I got this going on okay how do I set up that I got this going on how do I set up I got this one how do I set it that

[00:32:32] fillings in that position of where they can look at it okay look everything that could have gone wrong the last eight weeks went wrong. Do we have the people in place to fix it? I would say

[00:32:46] maybe get the executives together some of the the top coaches some of the team leaders that going to be back you have an outing hey everyone come to the use of it down the floor to somewhere warm

[00:33:01] a golf outing you bring in those you know a sports like how somebody like all betrayed or just get everybody in the same page because obviously on the same page a year ago when you went 15

[00:33:13] or two and went to a Super Bowl you were holding call away from having a really good chance that went in that Super Bowl to 10 and 1 and then it back a couple of months. I think a month

[00:33:27] over I don't think because granted Seria on he might not be hot on other people's list if you fire him people might not jump out the world works but he matches the Maksi city it's worked out over

[00:33:39] the last three seasons it just didn't look as fluid it was over the last couple months. I like what you said when in our pre-meat, anyway you were talking about how there must have been something

[00:33:53] that was vast because they were winning. Yeah if they were ended up in the situation we'll talk about San Francisco San Francisco's five and now had a three-game losing streak and then immediately went on another five-game win streak because in those three losses it was like

[00:34:12] we're doing the same thing three weeks in a row but we also have injuries when I've been checking the quarterback when I run in a bowl but we got beat three weeks in a row so now we have

[00:34:22] we've evaluated after the first loss we're five and one okay we're good to go. If they win and goes six and one I don't know if they take as a hard look at that loss because like I was a fluke

[00:34:36] but when you get loss loss, loss quarterback plays poorly he gets hit, can catch him protocol. Now you have to think left tackle's out he's hurt. We get him healthy quarterback struggling

[00:34:51] getting hit a lot we had to buy week I think they took that time and really got it together but they can evaluate three bad weeks of football turned into five good weeks. I don't think

[00:35:03] fully ever took that chance. I think it just like AJ Brown was on a tear wave it was like he was on a tear wave he had like a hundred like 656 games in a row where

[00:35:18] then after that you're not given in the ball but if you lose one of those games or two of those games and it's like okay and he only had five catches 75 yards now you look okay how do I get

[00:35:29] how do we get in the ball more but he was getting the ball there winning they were really we talked about watch watch average 31 points can fill it is here right I was just about to say that

[00:35:39] like maybe we should have been questioning them after that but that's the thing I was that's what I said because I was like well you got hope because the first game they scored 31 points and then

[00:35:47] they came out and did it again I was like this looks like that's one of the games you know when they call it the glory not a bounce you know but yeah like I think that the thing that concerned

[00:35:59] to me about Philadelphia was when I saw Jalen Hertz looking like he just received the phone call that his best friend was in a car accident like you know because he usually he's the leader you know

[00:36:15] he has the reputation of Bay Machor beyond his years and he's the one that kind of galvanizes everybody now I don't think of him as a like rara you know beat your chest Tim T bow tight dude

[00:36:28] but I think that he's the type of dude that when you when he speaks you listen like you know like I told like I told my wife I was like yo DMX was probably not

[00:36:40] near the greatest rapper ever but every time I heard his voice my ears perk the you know say I rest of peace ex like I was literally if you hear DMX you're just like okay I got

[00:36:52] a listen to this like whatever he said dude Zanymone followed DMX so like now I'm not going on up in him right the energy like yeah so so so so so so so her strikes me in that way

[00:37:05] not necessarily the energy of the rara but the hey he maybe doesn't talk a lot or he doesn't getting your chili a lot like he's not the type I think he might have been and that was not the first

[00:37:19] finish that dude you see the dial's got gotter it was like they were sitting on the end of the end of the end. Oh yeah okay I lied gotter got up and said something and Jalen was kind of sitting

[00:37:29] like this yeah but it wasn't sitting like he felt bad that gotter was saying some to him he was sitting there like yo I told y'all I've been telling y'all this for six weeks eight weeks

[00:37:42] right if that's why he was like I know you I know you're I think he knows who the people on preparing his heart is so because he said that he said something like that a lot about we need to get

[00:37:54] you know people need to stop being selfish people again on same page. I think he knows who it was and it's like I think Jalen's one of those people like I'm not going to waste my energy

[00:38:06] right now this season's over so the last thing I need is footage of me acting out of character whereas you devoured why receivers you devoured tight in jocca do all of those shit but he wasn't

[00:38:18] sitting and like his face looked very like posture it didn't look like oh my god you know it's too jell and I mean like you know like Mac Jones faced when Bill Brown was yelling at him

[00:38:29] maybe seeing that face like that like a kid getting yelled at by his pops jell and had that look like you could say all that just say it over there. Even there if you if you like jell and had that

[00:38:40] look like if you can't if it was in his face I think it had been different but he was like long see over there and that's why I think that when when I look at it that was my concern point

[00:38:55] so coming into the game I was not team get rid of seriyani like I think that was an overreaction on the front side of the playoff game but after I saw that stuff last night considering that it

[00:39:08] was the playoff game if you win you know you you get a chance you know to go to Detroit you know it possibly play an inexperienced team you know playoff wise so theoretically

[00:39:24] you're looking to rematch with San Francisco in the face after they came to your house and slapped you up so like and I know that and I know that one of my blind spots is that

[00:39:37] I'm old school in that way of like I see the bigger picture of I want to go kick San Francisco's asked where there's a lot of those dudes are like I just want to get away from him like I want

[00:39:50] to get away from Bradbury I'm talking here in big place lay talking all this shit while not making big plays you know whatever you know so like yeah I can see that you know but but just for me

[00:40:02] as a fan a person that watch sports all my life we have this and we've we're wrong at times we've had this thought of the guys that we grew up watching being these warriors and being a certain way and every snap matters every game matters

[00:40:20] it maybe it wasn't that way but that's the way that it was bit has been romanticized to us so yeah that he talked about it on his podcast when they were playing when he was playing

[00:40:31] from Milwaukee and they were playing Brooklyn he was like man he was like he was like having a couple of the guys that they bench like you know we're not beating this team and then hard was

[00:40:41] hurt and then Kyrie got hurt and he was like oh we got a chance but he was like even then they were like maybe we're ready to season over with right because it is a long time and it's a long

[00:40:49] time and you recognize the glisten do I need to play a whole another series we talked about it like when I talked about the uh band camp will go on for two against Dallas like why would you go

[00:41:00] for a good seven y'all line he was like well this art seating is pretty much locked in we're getting a home playoff game and we're locked in we went out of vision why don't I want to put my

[00:41:10] players with ten more minutes of this game just to maybe get the number two seed considering Philly was planted jisks all the other scenarios had to play out for them to even get up there

[00:41:19] it's like I'm not worried about that I don't want to place extra 10 minutes I want to get it out get out of here right now I think Philly players probably like yeah this season's a wash

[00:41:30] you because you know that we're in the way all of them because we got a record we're not a playoff team yeah you know what it takes to get to a suitball because most of these guys are on a team of

[00:41:38] year before you know it's not the same you know a feeling is not the same that a relationship is not the same you can see it people probably aren't hanging out as much they're probably

[00:41:47] not hanging around the facility together as much because you know you have you can eat at the facility you can bleed if I could sleep there you can work out there you can train there you can

[00:41:55] car practice there you can get massage you get everything you need that's facility so like you probably get Xbox is a PS5's everywhere so if you just a bunch of young guys

[00:42:05] ago you want to feel it today yeah but take I know it's my all-fade but I'm gonna get some treatment alright man I'm gonna shoot at here and then we'll go do this afterwards they know

[00:42:13] if that was happening tonight like it was last year like always different this year they know what internally guys probably kept tight to the vessel but his age of brown was going at a

[00:42:23] lot of people on Twitter social media was always buzzing he was going back and forth I think Brandy Graham had a couple like memorable tweets I think people were just going back and forth

[00:42:32] like to say being in this area Philly fans let you know Philly fans let you know around the sideline alright now we gotta get to it we gotta get to it Green Bay Dallas yes yes so first of all I'm

[00:42:47] just going to ask obviously this is over reaction is it time for the Cowboys to Clean House I have two ideas I ran this one conversation around friend of my retalkin it's either

[00:43:07] the players in Dallas feel the pressure of the ghost of Super Bowl's past and they get in their head because they're there people are saying hey you guys gonna take it all the way to

[00:43:23] she and so forth in the so on and maybe they're feeling the pressure or the common denominator and it is Jerry Jones now I don't have their budget but I use this as an example Jerry Jones likes

[00:43:40] to be on TV he likes to be in the press box he's always in the suit they have their budget his son is the one of the vice presidents in president's and everybody else he is a lot of

[00:43:54] nepotism at the top already not a lot of people say no but you have a meeting and it's like all we may an extra million dollar selling but like this quarter what do you want to do with this surplus

[00:44:09] we can get another underwater treadmill for the training room for $500,000 and higher another physical therapist at the rate of $300,000 for this season and then use additional $200,000 for you know renovation of the practice facility we need more shower heads or whatever so like gas

[00:44:33] you know more people can be there whenever the case may be so you take that million dollars and Jerry's like you know what I think we should up the tailor in the the the clothing allowance for all the

[00:44:46] execs so when we go to meetings and people see us on TV we're all in tailored suits right which could be beneficial because he's always on TV they're always doing podcast and it's like are you doing that because other organizations don't have these problems other organizations

[00:45:03] I mean look at Tampa Bay they just went to a super bowl with Tom Brady and they had the playoffs a couple years ago already one of the vision now they got Baker may feel they're winning the

[00:45:15] vision winning playoff games the Troy was an 11 16 team there alive in stock they made a couple moves and they've been winning green based consistently winning it's these teams Kansas City it can't just

[00:45:27] be the talented quarterback and I know patchman homes on paper and everything else and on the is better than that press got but that press got isn't that much of a gap that you can't win with

[00:45:40] that only when a passman home like led to league that such a pass decision that can's a quarterback that can get you wins so it was like where do you where do you not do an organization league

[00:45:51] that's causing you guys to have these problems late in the year so Jerry probably needs to give up the GM position easily yeah move his son to some figure head position where he doesn't

[00:46:07] make the final decision off football players okay bring in a real GM bring in real football people not just people who are fan of Dallas Cowboys because my last name is Jones you can keep all

[00:46:23] of money in house it is your team you don't need to own the team and have control because who's the GM for the Rams is not crocky it's you know the the AFC championship trophy is named after the owner

[00:46:42] the Kansas City cheese his grandson isn't the GM his niece isn't the head executive assistant head of security whatever the case would be like Dallas's problem is a Jones problem they get

[00:46:58] ready Jerry Jones if Jerry Jones gets rid of his titles I think they'll win so definition of insanity trying to do the same thing over and over and getting the same result so that's I could

[00:47:15] decide it better you hit on everything what I will add though is that Dallas is at another point where it's time to pay back again and we saw how tumultuous the first time they had to pay

[00:47:30] back was because he was problem he got the win his wish because he owns a team where to GM as well as the team and he's like I want the best deal for the team right and you know they got rid of

[00:47:45] Zeeke but didn't really break in any replacement it's like they thought Tony Pollard was going to be able to take it on Tony's policy small kind of guy you know quick you know but I don't think

[00:47:58] of him as I every down back so it doesn't surprise me that they struggled to run the ball you know then they brought in branded cooks he was supposed to be the answer because everybody's like the

[00:48:12] Michael Gallup but then he kept getting hurt so they brought in branded cooks as all right this is going to be the guy that the defense is going to have to focus on to take the attention off a CD

[00:48:24] but then cooks has been injured so I don't know if he's as fast as he used to be or the threat he used to be so you know as I was looking at all the ROC run every teammates on this is a knowledge problem

[00:48:38] he's a good receiver yeah and you know about ROC when every team they've been on but when I go back and look at this game you know you'll get a kick out of this when I was watching somebody's highlights

[00:48:51] and when I was watching the game live it looks like Tim Timo's draft video like he was just throwing it the Percy Harvon and it's like hey where's the defender at

[00:49:07] and then by the time the ball hits his hand the defender is just now getting into the frame yeah everybody's like look at that horrible Timo so like you know that's what I saw Saturday or

[00:49:18] Sunday I was like hey where's the closest Dallas defender like you don't want to it's like they said one of them was like the most open to any by his been and any game all year

[00:49:29] oh well he was we were 17.7 yards away from the nearest Dallas defender but that was the most open any of Harvon series been all year long like a test job well when we were when we were in the

[00:49:40] chat like the comment that I made was yo great baby receivers are really out here catching pop floss like that's basically what it was like that's right in the waiting on that ball he's waiting

[00:49:53] on that ball up yeah he just threw the ball up and they were just there so so like somebody told me today because you know a lot of people I don't want to say they're idiots but a lot of people

[00:50:04] don't watch the games they look at some numbers and they think they could tell you what happened and he goes back through them for 400 yards what else do you want and I said I need you to go back

[00:50:15] and watch that game tell me 100 and yeah 100 and that can I ask that'll be tell me we yard number 400 occurred you know to me because back through the yard number 16100 came in the

[00:50:30] fourth quarter when they were just even the ball up yeah out of ninety three yards when they were down for it when they were down 48 16 get a hundred ninety two yards passing yep and air jones

[00:50:41] I told you when he plays against Dallas he averages six yards of carry he didn't ever six yards of carry this time but he averaged five point six had a hundred and eighteen yards so

[00:50:51] Dallas yeah so Dallas lost this game sadly enough for them in the trenches they just got pushed around my comparts that had one tackle and one assist so maybe it's time to move him back to line

[00:51:06] back you know and not have him line it up on the line anymore you know even Stefan Gilmore they was like yo you could get it too then you know they burnt him up so it was a it was a master

[00:51:20] class by the floor it shows that he is like this all-world coach that because yes before has it lost the Dallas yet it is career he hasn't lost the Dallas so my thoughts go to green bay has more

[00:51:34] playoff wins in Dallas stadium and AT&T stadium than the Dallas does yeah it's crazy because they've also won ten out of their last eleven against Dallas is so so my thought going into the

[00:51:47] game was La Flora has it lost to Dallas but he had error Rogers and you talked about it that throw the jerk cook makes it cross be they can't recreate that they didn't need to

[00:52:01] so I was watching the game and I think I started hitting the whiskey a little early so I was laid up wrapped up in a blanket oh it doubts is watching the game it was seven zero

[00:52:15] I was like okay I turned to game on Griba was already in Dallas territory they score seven to half minutes left I'm thinking Dallas already had the ball as a punit right I didn't realize

[00:52:29] that was the opening drives I was like that's tough so like Dallas has to come back and and I don't know if it's a deck problem or if it's like I said the ghost of Super Bowl's past

[00:52:44] that kind of creep it into these guys where Tom already down ten in a playoff game you believe is going to come back Josh Allen like I said they're down fourteen points you know Josh Allen on the next

[00:53:02] possession he can do everything and his power and his talent yeah that's an inevitable work but he has the capability to get you seven points and you know you you have evidence on film as a player

[00:53:17] and as a coach the home is what do it no Justin Tucker's gonna kick a 50 plus your our feel goal into the win you know so you don't really have any evidence that Dallas is going to come

[00:53:30] back and I think that bit them it's seven it's seven zero that passed to see that maybe holds a little bit let them let them clear out let them get uncovered and hit on like eight

[00:53:45] one on the straight page because it's just the I think the pressure of being three three years in a row having 36 regular season wins when you're division it just it just seems like they're their moments that they picked throughout the regular season that are their highlights they have

[00:54:07] their scribbles between September and January January February is like we've already done I did everything I need to do to get paid right because I'm gonna get paid based on my regular season

[00:54:20] numbers so I did everything I need to do to get paid and this is what I'm going to get don't file Kevin to write well that's in two seconds should in the jump shot uh you don't say it so I think I think

[00:54:31] that's what happened in Dallas do you clean house to get back to your written question I would I would consider it I don't know if I would do it but I would consider it I would consider it

[00:54:43] and would say it would talk about the college coaches but at the same time to your point it doesn't really matter if you know the structure is the same yeah if the top of the pyramid is still

[00:54:58] the Jones empire yeah it doesn't matter because at some point but that's the thing if you had if you had a Wilson working in these upper ass on offices that had a voice if you had a

[00:55:11] retlif you had a tops and of somebody else not named Jones working up there it would be a real conversation if his team was on a board like if he I think he you probably owns a team out right

[00:55:25] I don't know how to business but if you had a board I think a board of people would have been like yeah you can't be GM and for us to be successful that's the only best to comment denominator

[00:55:37] is that your your your your your your presence in these positions is it's that has to be a thing that's holding his back right because he broke his all the deals of guys that he picks

[00:55:53] guys that he loves personally like you could still let him go he loved Rambo gave Rambo a pretty big deal but the same thing it was no playoff success and granted we know we had to

[00:56:04] hear where he dropped the ball against Seattle but that happens that's gonna happen you're gonna have you know the Atlanta you're gonna have a 28 to 3-Bloom Lee this crazy but it sucks and I

[00:56:15] happens but they can't write back the next year made the playoffs had a real playoff game beat the Rams and they were you know I completed past the Julio for being eager to file years league

[00:56:27] yeah you know but once it got to the point where Dan Quinn and the team was they were always collapsing with these double-digit leagues it was like okay you gotta go because something about

[00:56:38] your presence here isn't working for the team right yeah all right so for the sake of time we'll save our other question for Thursday but you know but yeah but the Rams always three in the

[00:56:53] red zone that lost them the game you know besides the fact that jerk off mate please you know you know Detroit and Tampa should be an interesting game just from the standpoint of both their teams

[00:57:08] that Detroit some people expected Detroit to be here but at the end of the day they're still Detroit but I don't think a lot of people had Tampa here so I'm interested to see which one of them

[00:57:19] going back to something you said earlier which one of Detroit's Tampa is playing with house money Tampa Tampa is playing with house money but I think the beauty of this game you have two

[00:57:33] granted then Campbell's a tight-end they see more like a defensive coach like rugged but Nick right on first things first said he was like everyone calls uh Dan Campbell like this rugged

[00:57:49] go for a kind of coach really he's just a smart coach it just follows analytics is they go he's going for them for the one he's a tough guy like nah he's just kind of falling out of it but

[00:57:58] he just has that that that's scruffy the the guilty and the demeanor and the t-shirt and the muscles and the voice was just like he has that raspy he doesn't have that like Mike Bigdane is my

[00:58:10] fellow analytics but it looks like fancy because he's more like all-white Mike you know air force ones on a sideline so like that we've been talking about he's going to come in this stadium

[00:58:21] but I like to Tampa be the Detroit matchup I like the redemption story of Jericho if I like the story of Baker Mayfield I think Baker's going to get probably like a three year 110 hundred five hundred

[00:58:32] ten million dollar off from Tampa Bay flag on rejectates flag on won't more like Daniel Jones money so three years one twenty I think it'd be beneficial if they can match if they can keep Mike Evans

[00:58:44] because you got to give him a weapon like I think I think it's with teens fall apart where I think right Detroit it's about it there are the opposite of Philly as far as like the belief

[00:58:55] right I think they knew because my dad was talking about this we had his competition as if they tried to skip readily he said Sean they should have gone for it on that fourth and 14 he was like

[00:59:10] you don't give him the ball back and I was like I didn't think about it because that's I was like that makes a lot of sense because either way your defensive objective is the same

[00:59:23] if you because if you don't get the fourth and 14 you got to stop them from getting two first downs for where you are because even if they get a first down but they go out of bounds in their

[00:59:37] field or range you're only down four maybe get the ball back or forty two seconds left for something like that maybe a minute some change but you can't get you can't give up the ball

[00:59:50] knowing all they need to do is give two first downs right so you're better off especially the way they move into ball on that you're better off just trying to get the four T yards because if you

[01:00:00] don't get it you're in the same position whether they get the ball the forty four the four T and no to twenty four like their objective is still to get two first downs and you have one time

[01:00:12] out and the two minute one is all you have so I think they should have probably gone for it maybe don't want to run those rocks maybe you get the hole in the call maybe get the you know

[01:00:23] passing the friends where the case may be but I guess I think the choice just believes to players believe in Jericho Jericho believes in the port of the port of Belize and Hutchison and Belize in the coach I think it just just this belief system that's like intrinsic

[01:00:41] with the team and the way they play and then Dan Campbell is the mouthpiece for this belief and their plan at home I mean it was got those grownman in his stands crying from the playoff

[01:00:53] win so yeah no no no no no how's he but yeah no no no no no it's game in San Francisco beat screen bay it's going to be one of those David versus Go live moments that

[01:01:05] the fine sports it's gonna be a game and it's gonna be a game I'm excited for him here for it yeah so so be a mr logical or I should say sorry let me fix that mr logical and I

[01:01:20] were talking this morning he brought up Caleb the board and I did has to take the jump on him yeah right at yeah because because like you know we're at a different place now you know to me

[01:01:35] like but I'll let mr logical get this started okay oh get it starts not necessarily get off my chest it was necessarily about Caleb the board yeah it just was about the the narrative surrounding

[01:01:46] the transfer portal and this is argument that I had probably we talked about Brian Kelly to begin of our podcast a year ago nope if I am a as a coach I'm recruiting every year so there's a kid

[01:02:03] that's in high school who just wrapped up his high school football career and December whatever state championship whatever level he he made it to who was recruited by the board to come to

[01:02:20] watch it's about here it is January 16th now the guy who sat in his living room last August last September came to his game and said hey you're gonna be a husky I'm going

[01:02:35] to be there to turn you know turn you into a man and promises mom is that and his grandma and his little brother like you're gonna come to the game you be wondering your brother's jersey's gonna be

[01:02:45] purple and gold it's gonna be a great environment up in Seattle and it's like oh Alabama call I hate men I'm out and he doesn't have like he doesn't have to do anything for these people that he

[01:02:59] told like because now this can commit it to Washington and maybe Orb your state one maybe Cal wanted them but now Cal feel their spots up so they don't they don't need a seventh-wide receiver coming in the 2020 four class so now he's now I go to Washington with

[01:03:21] uncertainty with a coach I don't know who might not want me either because they might pluck their coach from you know misguestate or somewhere and they bring a couple of recruits and that was

[01:03:31] what's the come with them we'll get to that yeah so you know you got so I just I just feel like a player leaving puts a coach in zero by I don't care what position is of as a college football

[01:03:43] coach if your quarterback transfers you have an entire country full of high school senior quarterbacks that can come to your school and you can teach them your offense and make them

[01:03:59] a player that you need if I'm a player I don't have that option I can't just be like oh the coach left I'm just going to transfer I got to pick up my whole life because you left

[01:04:12] you don't have to there's no guarantee I got to spot there's no guarantee I'm gonna have a spot do you let that play out I guess hot but once again now I got I got I had to do something

[01:04:25] I had I'm in the position why I got to change my life because you told me to come here and I get here and you leave me all right let me we supposed to travel right we're in sports

[01:04:36] with flight we go on a year right I'm like alright man flight jersey I'm a meet you at Newark International okay we go catch the flight from Newark to London

[01:04:48] you land here I'm in Miami by going to cruise to the Bahamas now you stop and I was like well you can figure if you want to go London or not but I'm like I convinced you I did I got all the

[01:05:02] things moving to get you to come to this spot because of me and then when you arrive I'm not there and I'm off to a better trip I'm doing something better with a different group of people

[01:05:14] well here's the thing here's the thing you know in life whether you're 18 whether you're 38 whether you're 58 you're always looking for advancement you know the same way that a coach does stay at a school like say you know there's some kid at Toledo and you know you get a

[01:05:37] feel around there like hey coach prime is interesting you you know say you go probably go and we're going to be like coach prime killing the portal you don't say it so when I'm looking

[01:05:50] that like killing the board for example because he was the name that you brought up even though the overall point wasn't about him you know my take away from it was we really expecting coaches

[01:06:01] to turn down Alabama like it's the best job in the country you know I don't care what people say about Texas Alabama is how people treat the players that didn't play an FSU in Georgia

[01:06:17] the executives for ESPN were upset the executives for the committee were upset everybody was upset because those kids want to play because you don't want it don't want to let them

[01:06:29] what I left to go to Alabama which was what they said you say you play in his bowl game right you play for a mic no girl because he told you they screwed us they jam this up I'm we going

[01:06:41] this bowl game will be Georgia now you go out there and get rock then you can question protocol he takes a job two weeks later to go to Alabama I'm gonna say you know which comes in

[01:06:54] now I'm in can I'm injured I can't go workout for two months because I'm in touch your protocol I don't have access what ever in the case maybe and I get it that is this is like a one-off

[01:07:03] kind of situation but the outrage that the players get in the public the public the the professional people in charge what they say publicly about the players is my biggest problem it's not that

[01:07:19] I'm not telling a player like listen you got first fear you got to expect that tell them my son all the time I'm listening you gotta understand I listen every coach is going to like

[01:07:27] you every nation is going to be saying only you're going to really affect is how you work it's not always going to go great I'm just talking about the public statements made by committee leads the

[01:07:40] the people who are in charge like the pregenesis schools the 80s the plundits on these sports that works the people who have podcasts like our show everyone has something to say about killing when you was not playing a ball game everyone people have something to say about the

[01:07:55] FSU players not playing but as soon as Brian Kelly leaves no to damn go to LSU to talk about all the talent he's going to have an LSU what a great decision he had when I said down what I say to that is

[01:08:07] young man this might be your first lesson unfortunately welcome to life this is how it works I don't know why would you do I why do they do I make public statements the committee leaders they go I make public statements against players because they think that there are

[01:08:27] all those on for one because they think they're going to lose money that's why don't you think that's what it was all about when you lose a coach from a watch a team that

[01:08:35] just went to national championship a team of course certainly because check it out though it's the same thing because like you know Michael Pinnick's off to the NFL poke off to the NFL a dude's

[01:08:46] say off to the NFL Johnson off to the NFL make millions out I don't know if he's going to the NFL but he's gone you know to me so they had like 30 dudes in the portal before the board even left

[01:09:00] you know to me first of all second of all you know to me it was Alabama it was like the job in college football I was not holding on hold on hold on hold on I let you do your thing

[01:09:15] hold on it was it was Alabama you know that and not everybody obviously is going to be in a place in life where you get offered the Alabama job there was Dan Lattie Mike Norville

[01:09:28] there was Kaila DeBord now this is the overall problem as we peel it back so Washington went out and got Jed Fish from Arizona you know who was you know highly

[01:09:43] on the Gators list if they let go of their coach next year you know he's a Gator alum now he's at Washington this is the problem you got the SEC you got the big tin those are the two major

[01:09:58] players we joke about AFC NFC so Jed Fish sitting here in Arizona if he turns down Washington he's not doing his family a service you know say he's not doing himself a service from the standpoint

[01:10:13] of you're not going to make anywhere if that's important to you you're not going to have the money the eyeballs the recruits because that's good as job as he did at Arizona this year I went to

[01:10:24] the Alabama bowl watch them curb stop Oklahoma you know to me but that only last four times where my lock is not I'm not isn't on the coach that moves I'm not not going to coach that moves I am

[01:10:36] a little bug that you that the way they the way they recruit and how they get hired right and I show with them with the guarantees are for the kid coming in my issue is what was the Pittsburgh

[01:10:51] coach I kept talking about the portal of time Pat and our doozy Pat and our doozy now Pat and our doozy can play that essentially Lincoln Riley basically fleece a couple of players he didn't say him in

[01:11:01] name but a couple of guys went from Jordan to USA then Lincoln Riley fleece a few through the guys now his comic could have been clear Lincoln Riley leaving Oklahoma four hours after he coached them

[01:11:21] right to a loss to where if they were the one they would have been in the CFP coaches them to a loss he gets him and his family get on plan LA his comments could have yeah because he kept it on

[01:11:34] a raft which is fine you're negotiating I get that but if you're going to make a comment about the fact that you're a player left your school to go to USC you can still stand up there

[01:11:43] make the same comment that these coaches are leaving kids behind getting better jobs and feeling players from other schools so that's a trifecta that's the piece that I don't get I only get

[01:11:56] the Jordan Addison decide to leave my school to go hear peace so your whole your argument is holistic but you'll be giving me 33% of that pie the college football playoff community they're upset that all these players didn't play well what about what coaches leave before the ball game

[01:12:14] right right like old they want to give the new coach his opportunity to start a new knowing that you just want to sit on the players because the players are young men he wanted to get up

[01:12:26] on a fair decision you know why he left because national recruiting day was coming up that's why he left you know just like uh we're gonna make my problem is if you're going to stand

[01:12:36] up there and on the podium on your Twitter account or your official NCAA Twitter email what would case may be and make the argument that the player is doing something that is damaging college football then your coach commentary has a match yeah gotta come with that same

[01:12:53] manager just like just like we were talking about Jim Bo Fisher you know national title winning coach you know had Florida State sitting at five and six you know flat out denied like I'm not

[01:13:06] interested in Texas A&M because the deal was out there 10 years 75 million we knew that apparently we knew it before Jim Bo did you know Jim Bo was like I'm not taking the job you know

[01:13:17] Florida State through and through he ain't recruit no offensive linemen for like the last two years and then that Thursday before the last game of the season he was gone so those situations

[01:13:33] I get you know to me like uh that situation happens more often than a player a player is not really putting the players not putting the school behind the able because if it's like Dillon Raiola

[01:13:50] post-coded Georgia decided to go to Nebraska is Georgia here like damn I don't know if I'm giving another five star no they they gonna get another five star they got two of them

[01:14:03] me so it's like that's and that's my only piece but I'm just saying that I think it's circumstantial the public the public criticism of coaches never happens and there I think

[01:14:14] it goes it happens it's just not from that not saying the level in like pundits but not to the people who in the NCAA and other coaches who make statements about players they make statements

[01:14:29] directly about players every single time it happens to the point where you got players in the locker room filming Jane Daniels clean out his locker and like yo they go shit they just destroyed all these shit recorded them telling me stuff not to use anyone's a hype where

[01:14:48] those guys that they recorded them right when harm Edwin when her harm Edwin's fire or leaves or whatever case maybe you're going to so it's a mess but that's also the danger right because if you're somebody like killing the board and you get Washington's the national title game

[01:15:03] Michael Pettick's leaves you start going eight and four you get a seven and five up in there they go get rid of you just as quick as you bounced so this is what happens when your sport is

[01:15:14] centered on money you know and it just so happens unfortunately that the players are at the bottom level you know just like an airman they're at the bottom level so therefore you know it's easy to

[01:15:26] criticize them well I had a team you know what I was saying and I had a chief I sat down with it just by not calling the chief an e9 who literally told me our message up here is clear

[01:15:41] it gets muddled around the e7 part I'm like that's the problem I'm telling you that at my level I'm not getting a clear message from you to support they're not getting it but you tell me it's

[01:15:55] my fault because at this level the message is being muddled I'm like you're the chief you're in charge your message should be loud and clear from top to bottom it's usually not being a situation where

[01:16:08] you're telling me it's somebody else's fault that your message didn't get down to the airman right right and you'll see that later in cdv is blame the players yeah unfortunately you know my buddy coaches the coaches are going to wear the money's one honestly and you know

[01:16:25] going to wear the money's gone like I said this before the orange bowl if I was Mike Norville I would have honestly thought about just not going but I would have honestly just been like

[01:16:39] we should have been in a playoff we're not planning your punk asking you know is what I would have said you know you know but now that he goes out there with this half a team it's easy to

[01:16:51] criticize the aging in the 20 million it's easy it's easy to criticize the players because they're the ones that we see you're going to be there the ones playing the game so it's

[01:17:02] easy to say well 25 of these dudes just bounced you know or whatever the case they beat you know it's easy to do that like where the coaches get criticized because they do it's just not

[01:17:16] the same level as it should be you know but like some coaches I don't think I don't think I don't think that every coach that leaves should be criticized I think it just depends on

[01:17:26] the situation it depends like when Dana Holger said left West Virginia to go to Houston it was on the herd of at the time he went from a power five school down so he

[01:17:38] pops and he's still under contract so he should be a relief it should be flat out like if you're still under contract I don't care what the all but if that's the case then you have to hold

[01:17:47] see you can't have it both ways you have to hold everybody to that precedent if that's the question everybody's not as impactful you don't know but if you've got to have good but if

[01:17:55] it's not everybody has a contract the players have contracts and you can't leave we'll go no we'll go with the chief airman analogy the chief you're the maintenance superintendent of the one-o-first maintenance quadrant you're the maintenance superintendent you are a singular

[01:18:11] position you can't just leave and go do another chief jobs somewhere on base for four months because you're a singular position but if I got 40 airmen and 84 airmen to do on a guard for four months

[01:18:24] I can send for airmen because I got 40 total if I have 14 defensive backs and two of them want to transfer that's fine but if I have a coaches under contract who told players

[01:18:38] I'm gonna be here because that's not only you just when you're on the contract if you have a five year contract at three years that would work if jobs were always open like you don't

[01:18:49] want to be like I'm not what's my next time Alabama going on when we re-enlisted when we re-enlisted if I re-enlisted in 2010 I re-enlisted for four years I can't just decide at 12 and a

[01:19:04] half years you know what I want to get out because I'm under contract there's no girl think it all my purse you can't just no get out of the air force no you can't just leave but you could

[01:19:16] try to leave but that's there's how my life is going to be I'm like my contract is with the air force getting out of the air force if you're a contract is with Washington you're at

[01:19:27] Washington that's where you are so if your contract says five years at the two year mark somebody offers you another job it's like you can't so somebody so somebody came to you right now

[01:19:41] and was like we're gonna give you 40 thousand more than your making you're gonna be like my contract but I didn't recruit people to come to my job I didn't tell people to come work here

[01:19:52] because I'm gonna be here to be their leaders so I can just say it it's just not realistic I get what you're saying it's just not realistic it was realistic when players couldn't transfer

[01:20:02] at all so they had that in place and now things have changed but now because the things have changed so so basically hold up so basically what this boils down to is you're just a little

[01:20:14] sad that the players get criticized I said about that I'm just saying I think it's BS it is what it is and now they can leave these Washington players that you're talking about

[01:20:26] the portal is open for them they're not stuck I was gonna see I don't want any exactly about 30 days because this year's been to come on TV so I've got one there's one

[01:20:36] RNIL's killed it and I guess what I'm not sure getting paid $26,000 a day but the next year because he gets one these Washington players actually passes in the lead is getting that kind of money these players that these Arizona players these Alabama players these San Jose state players

[01:20:56] because now Arizona then higher San Jose states coach they have 30 days to the Kennedy years what they got 30 days to enter the portal and guess what if they decide to stay for whatever

[01:21:07] reason if they decide to stay let me give the new coach a chance guess what the portal opens back up in spring so they can stay there for three or four months if they want to be allowed

[01:21:18] to do coach be like yo I'm not feeling this and they can leave later so like so like which or say so this conversation is important because which are saying applaud 10 years ago 15 years

[01:21:32] ago but it's not like that anymore you don't know me like these guys can't leave as they please for the most part you know say like that's the biggest I just wanted criticism

[01:21:45] to be I just want to shift in the public picture all right Michael Parsons that's it you say you don't feel the difference not to I think that I think the coaches impact I think the

[01:22:00] coaches move is more impactful than the player move I mean hell save it just fucking retired after he told everybody after he recruited everybody like he didn't go out to the into his contract

[01:22:11] that goes to 2031 and this was like I get it I'm done like I'm done I'm retiring but if you want the contract you can't do right you don't say like go back to what you were saying

[01:22:23] if you're on the contract you can't do that I get that my reaction is a little hyperbolic I just don't I just don't I just don't a person like said we had the NIL conversation a few weeks ago

[01:22:36] whereas like the conversation around NIL and the players without people doing their own research and their own constructive thinking and their own logical thinking if you just jump right in and you Google coaches opinion of NIL right now if you just jump right in you would think

[01:22:59] that every single player on the team is getting a hundred eight two hundred two hundred five hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year and every position they're not they're not but the the outrage or the selective outrage for that matter would make you think that is

[01:23:19] way worse and it's like the real issue is coaches don't like the lack of power they're getting but it's really limited because we talked about the top 10 people five of them are like American legacy kids yeah I was just about the same as what I was doing

[01:23:41] how does football is a microcosm of America yeah like the same as the generation or like legacy kids like each generation of the least powerful get to that a little bit better and the power structure can't handle it and that's where we are with college football is that

[01:23:58] the power is starting to swing a little it is not even to the point where the players have all the power but they just have a little bit more rights than they had before and these dudes are

[01:24:08] freaking out in can't handle it yeah like I get an example of a quick um before we go on to the next stop I try to make it quick there's there's a game I heard about it was a was

[01:24:19] watching feeling on Facebook is called like walls or walls and villagers is something like that there's a lot like this game called secret Hitler I don't know if you have a place is game it says it's a strategy game you play with a group of people

[01:24:35] secret 8 more y'all yeah especially what it is because it's other different it's different little antagonist you play as well but essentially what happens in secret Hitler is that you all draw cards for your position either you're going to be a fascist Hitler or the other

[01:24:53] oh no the other party in Germany like the other political party that was like not against those against the fascist but it's like two fascists and one Hitler so you started to game off everyone

[01:25:05] like close their eyes and the person whose Hitler is like a moderator runs a game stance like lift their heads up and the fascists and they see who Hitler is with three people

[01:25:17] so you put your head down and then you spin the rest of the game trying to try to figure out who Hitler is different little things you can do you can kill people off they're for those strides you can

[01:25:26] an implement but essentially what it is that the argument is that as long as the power base no truly each other are you're going to always be able to control the masses

[01:25:43] so everybody else will argue and you can't just be like oh my card says I'm not a fascist you have to be like you have to be convincing in your argument around the table well the fascists and Hitler

[01:25:55] no we know who you are so you just kind of take the person out of one person trying to control that like I'll tell me he's definitely Hitler and this guy's a fascist I know if he's sure

[01:26:06] so if you're a Hitler or you're a fascist you know they're getting to call it a wrong person you can kind of join that guy's camp and you sway the majority of the table so now everybody's

[01:26:15] focused over here meanwhile the two fascists and Hitler just chilling watching the majority each other up I eat what they did to Jane Daniels the way people treat killer winds when he decided

[01:26:27] they want to play and he's crying on silent well he's about to be in a more pit there's no insurance look what happened with our dealing Smith when he got pushed in the back against or

[01:26:36] Ohio State in that bowl game he went from a state of relief we went from a top to a pick to crying his heart out for being drafted like late in the second round and this guy's now the year

[01:26:46] that we have yeah and you kept planning play for a while he was you know he was a stud football player but his career was essentially almost over for free so but you get the whole you can get everybody

[01:26:59] round up saying these guys again pay these guys again pay you got to compete me while Jim Mophish again 25 racks of data sit at home yep so there was there's the guy that's the piece

[01:27:13] that bothers me nose because I feel like internally I'm more of an advocate for the masses and I don't like when the masses get manipulated yeah that's just like what I was talking about

[01:27:23] peacock earlier you know say like yeah somebody got to stand up but we got to you can't watch get one you got streams you know we got streams you could put that shit on your ex box or

[01:27:36] your playstation five you know say you don't need peacock but you know it is what it is so you know of course you know we're basketball season is in full swing right now watching the

[01:27:49] Clippers in the Thunder 93 85 Clippers you know Clippers of 22 and 11's is the heart and deal you know they are third or I'm sorry fourth in the west right now you know okay see second in the west

[01:28:02] right now you know somebody said earlier in the crowd that uh this is a western conference finals preview so this is a logical how likely is it that this is a western conference preview that we're watching right

[01:28:15] now western conference finals preview very young team the very old team being your finals match up me we had that last year with Denver and I like I'm not saying it's like impossible

[01:28:31] uh I don't know what the odds are I wouldn't bank on it like that would be my bedding match up unless the odds were just really good and I could get paid um I like the Clippers I just don't know

[01:28:46] where at January 16 you know about the role into the 17th year of these coast I'm not sure how many quality games you're going to get after the all star break because you got about 30 get about 32

[01:29:00] 34 games so after all star break on average how many quality games you're going to get with healthy kawai Paul George Harden I think it'd be committed can they get you through April and May

[01:29:14] that's that's a long stretch of basketball yes no we're like I said we're in mid-jamer right now you got to get five more months out of these guys I think it's been a trade deadline but it's like

[01:29:29] you have I mean I think kawai just not like a 50 million dollar year contract the other day I think it was like three for one twenty nine or something like that I think it was I thought it was three

[01:29:38] for one fifty two could have been could have been so it was something like that because I was think about all these fifty million dollar deals that guys have and um say I mean I like it I

[01:29:51] envy has it really been like all my radar heavily like I watch a few games here in there I watch a lot of windy early on a lot you know see the lakers standings and I hear people that are

[01:30:06] three years one fifty two twenty three yeah one fifty two point three so it's like the way they were talking about kawai past couple years it makes it so key wasn't on play three more years

[01:30:16] but I'm like that I like that the clippers are good because they're going to get their own stadiums oh not a bestie kid I mean maybe maybe these years a low management you know it's gotten used to it maybe you got a good

[01:30:28] routine maybe whatever surgery had like you know really took and you guys you know it gets stronger because he looks he looks bright he does but always got more concerned is that he always gets injured right before the playoffs are during the playoffs they're like freak injuries to

[01:30:43] his wears like you know bumping as you know a quad muscles torn up well these are like 12 years older than the rest of his body let's still mix and about our age so I have to say it that's the

[01:30:56] bestie stuff I don't know if I'm running down the court these knees I like it I did talk about this earlier you know something about like the NBA has a like a personality problem I don't think they have enough personalities that people who aren't fans holistically

[01:31:23] abascible can just attach themselves to like oh I like this guy you know like we like Dominic with the black cloud cloud the glide in how many cool nicknames now unfortunately what it was

[01:31:36] guys do all the court unfortunately one of those guys is out for the season you know Mr. Jama Rantx Zion Williams since it looks like a 14 year old out there playing basketball like grow beer and Paul George tries to have personality he has personality on his podcast but

[01:31:54] but when I hear him talking like just regular I'm just like he's still looking cool dude he's not better he's like a lead back like yeah like just like the end then probably the most

[01:32:04] polarizing guys the guy you don't want to hear from a lot because I mean I like LeBron but you don't want to hear from that guy all the time I don't want to hear from him I like

[01:32:14] Jeff T. I like like I said like what he's doing I like Paul George's podcast but it was kind of weird I saw a video today and I thought to myself as an overhead there's no way in a hell of

[01:32:24] bark that would be on a podcast talking describe how he got dunked on with his dog like if he'd be like next time he'd go up there on an elbow right in his ribs yeah or like man what

[01:32:36] you're bringing this shit up right now like just just lose all composing the middle of his show like George you know yeah I was in no man's land in Zubo's there's like yeah you

[01:32:46] you were you was in no man's land is like the season's still going on you talk about that later talk about that when you were talking about that when you were talking about that at your

[01:32:55] Hall of Fame speech yeah like oh man it's one time we all seen the video this will really happen I mean but like he talked about it was like last week you know dunked a century whatever

[01:33:05] so I just I just think that's NBA they have like I said is have a they have a bit of a personality problem I don't think people are as intrigued by the matchups anymore because it seems to be all

[01:33:19] about the playoffs even from week one every all the questions are can the Lakers win the championship can awesome we can make win it's more particularly when a championship it was like can they win 10 of their first 12 games first. Boss you know this record is deleted right now

[01:33:37] but we saw what Milwaukee did to them last week they're 31 and 9 last I looked um yeah you know so like you know and that's the thing it's like you it's just as if they don't they're not doing

[01:33:52] enough to just really highlight and showcase well this is the problem young talent this is a problem I think the NBA has as well they need to borrow from the NFL it might need to flex something

[01:34:08] you know because like you got a team like Minnesota who's sitting up on top of the west for how many times have you seen Minnesota this year unless like I mean I got the super box

[01:34:23] you know to mean it all that so like I can see them but I'm just talking about like the average fan like you know like is the actual thing like I'm talking commercials I'm talking putting them on

[01:34:34] yeah and the NBA was just a personality and he's he's it is him and Java rant I think Jaha has a Nike deal but it seemed like Nike hasn't really done much with him for his

[01:34:46] hands. He had all these issues yeah like he still are athlete James Hartn has a dearest deal and it's like you're all ever see heads you know his commercials are you know you got a why bringing new balance back and it's like that's got new balance right

[01:35:03] oh no he's not doing on the armor but it's like once again what is it should look like what is it look like give me like what it looks like show me give me these guys in personality

[01:35:13] put them in state farm commercials right put them in guy co commercials put them in bank commercials or just whatever the case may be is like you got to do something to show Kashi young talent you know who's caught my eye lately don't laugh at me though

[01:35:32] Julie Triangle and New York Nix they've caught my eye lately ever since they made the trade they're six and two they've held four of their opponents under a hundred points they're pre at a noby team had held six teams under a hundred so like the impact is being

[01:35:51] felt defensively Julie is around who has more room to roam without RJ bear it being in the way clogging up the lane and shooting wild shots doing the genogally thing without the success even though even though RJ bear it is shooting 56% since he got to Toronto

[01:36:11] so maybe it was a change of scenery thing he's back home you know so maybe that plays a part you know uh word on the street is tonight the paces have begun talks with uh Toronto to try to get siaka but now siaka mal here being difficult because

[01:36:31] he's basically saying that he won't resign with anybody and he wants to be a free agent I mean as he had that opportunity before that really has maximizes he has it but then people

[01:36:46] are going to criticize Toronto and say well why didn't they come off of siaka because they can't siaka is taking the value in the leverage a lot Anthony Davis yeah and you know

[01:37:04] really pretty trians people coming out saying that he wants to play with when biama made while the spurs are trying to reunite with the janttei married who surprisingly to me is on board with

[01:37:19] I think I've lost a few of these spurs games these guys are more traditional point gars are like man I mean don't I get 14 is this a game if I had one be on my team just off of him

[01:37:32] just him come to the lane I'm not even running another play that's how you know there are young team because they go through so many stretches where he doesn't touch the ball it's it was I've seen

[01:37:43] a few games where I probably was texting you like they really don't I'm like either he's a pet he made or they are just so inclined to run the sanitoneo system that there's no room for

[01:38:03] any kind of ad lib to it where what that's what happens when you're like a semi-rob your old coach right I'm not much of triangle and the Kobe were breakdown of triangle about how it just moves

[01:38:14] and it's not all about me just shooting all the shots it's about creating space by moving so like there's always two or three things you can do like you can shoot your past you can cut new

[01:38:25] here and then you just read you just move the triangle when you cut so it has a lot of nuance and variance to it so you can pop off of that it seems like the sanitoneo system is very like just

[01:38:38] not a lot of flair to a hint why a lot of guys like Steve Jackson, Koi Leonard, Jonte Murray a lot of those guys that had that I want to get my bag and showcase what I can do talent

[01:38:51] thoroughly thrive there like James Harden would never work with pop pitch oh not even close whereas he was where he was the the the pinnacle of basketball success with dantoneee

[01:39:04] so I think it might be a situation where maybe you get you get a just traditional point guard in there I'm not sure I trade young words from pop because I don't know if he's a 20-parker type of

[01:39:13] point guard with pop or he's he's still more like that AI and when he is at the Kenbo the Tembe the Tembe will kind of position where you're just the big man who benefits off the fact that

[01:39:26] you have a smaller score that's creed in space right and quick many get it off my chest you've got a lot of those today yeah so Chicago what the hell is wrong with you why you're out here

[01:39:48] treating Mrs. Krauss like this and her kids like I get it Jerry had a bad or y'all had a like up and down really ship with Jerry Krauss Jerry Krauss but I will tell you this

[01:40:03] you he just ships as he left now grab it grab it Michael left as well you don't mean but you know I'm not a 20 factor oh definitely did I'm not kidding Michael Jordan didn't bring so we're got 20 to 25% Michael Jordan didn't bring Scottie Pippin with Scottie Pippin was

[01:40:25] some young dude that went to central Arkansas that had long curves he didn't take that chance on Scottie Pippin Jerry Krauss did that you know Michael Jordan didn't go higher Phil Jackson

[01:40:39] Jerry Krauss did that last I checked Michael Jordan didn't win a title until Jerry Krauss did that so I get it it didn't end well he did the whole thing where I don't care if we go 82 and

[01:40:50] oh this is the last season I get it the whole last dance you know to be but it was pretty out it it was stupid but leave his wife leave the wife and kids out of it you know like I know I don't

[01:41:03] Kelly Stafford made some comments as well about how Detroit was born her and the kids I don't know their relationship with Detroit I know Matthew love the Troy I don't know more than Detroit yeah I don't know with their relationship but when I saw that the

[01:41:19] fans were just treating Jerry Krauss's wife like that I was just like bruh y'all would be lucky if another Jerry Krauss walked through your door but we know fans sure for fanatic

[01:41:32] yeah yeah that ain't all it's short for but I'm a stop there you know but yeah so so our the T wolves for real they are double wanted defensive rating they're number four net rating

[01:41:48] and they're number six in true shooting percentage so they are the best team in the West the right now you know cat missed a lot of last year so it was easy to say this doesn't work

[01:42:02] but now we have an emotion and it's working so yeah I thought it was going to work even when people say it wasn't going to work I was like it's going to work because nobody I want to say nobody else

[01:42:16] they still had outside threats and outside presence and outside ball handlers and then you had a seven foot god I can shoot and a seven one or seven foot god I can you know rust is just

[01:42:28] incredible yeah and a seven foot god I that could defend the rim so I just I think this this expectation oh you need that be able to spread the floor no big man's like listen I'd rather go down there

[01:42:40] and get a god I shoot in 661% around the rim where god I could defend on the other side I know guys in shoot no I three's but everyone's not good at it so a lot of the starters aren't

[01:42:53] great shooters across the league it's a lot of specialty guys but it's not a lot of guys and starting to five that are shooting over 40% from three can say even step doesn't shoot that well

[01:43:03] from three consistently and when he goes cold there's no there's no alternative for the team because they're like oh we built everything around this concept of shooting the three we saw I happen

[01:43:13] with you some of James Hardes like I get that the three point like the number three points is more than two but everybody doesn't have the personnel the liquors don't have shooters it's a

[01:43:24] lower than the next we're always pretty bad at because the typical like those kind of coaches just don't really have a three point offensive bag in there the spurs on student 2 to 3 very well

[01:43:38] yeah the nicks already gave up a manual quickly and now they're shopping quick and grombs too so you know that's two shooters potentially out the door right there and you know so here's the

[01:43:49] thing I know you mad at me because usually I have a pop quiz for you yes here but I had to save it for late in the show so the lakers have played 18 games since the in season tournament

[01:44:06] what's their record 7 and 11 6 and 12 well you know to be like it does like so as I was thinking about this because I'm sure that it sounds way better than 6 and 12 it does it is now it sounds like

[01:44:21] it's like they only had a couple of bad games and he's always a couple I mean we're still in worst of me think about slurping you're so sick yes we're not think about some of these

[01:44:30] yeah that's the 33% win per sentence but 7 and 11 just it just feels like a way better 18 games stretch as 6 and 12 games it you know should be back so hot actually more is back

[01:44:44] you know so they got that going form but it's the same problem it didn't as you know they can't shoot and then as we listen to all these rubbers you know it's like the john tae Mary in this type of

[01:44:56] you still not address it in your problem like the point of a trade is to improve in an area where you may be lacking you know like getting the john tae Mary you look down at now

[01:45:08] it would not help you out at all in that arena you know like there they're the ones that maybe should look at a trade young even though I don't I mean obviously that ain't if

[01:45:20] you know what I mean that type of player you know we thought about Zach Levine outside of his health he would provide shooting and give the defense somebody to think about max christie is supposed to be a

[01:45:31] shooter you know but he's still young so you know Austin Reeves I guess like he'll hit a shot if he just wants to touch his arm I guess you know but like like but the makers don't have anybody

[01:45:46] that the defense should fear so like for the fact that they made the west of conference finals last year should be saluted you know what the efficiencies that they had because what they were able to do

[01:46:01] is that if Clay Thompson shoots the ball better like I don't I don't know if it's a slum ball of the injuries I'm of his aid I don't know if it just matters retirement but it's already above

[01:46:15] it used it used to be like the way I would feel like Drew Reeves don't want to pass on 37 I just felt like he was going to convert that against Atlanta every time 37 the ball leaves his hand

[01:46:28] I'm just expecting Henderson or Colston or tomorrow or somebody just to be wide open just head again somebody just wide open 37 12-yard game first down the wall and that's like there's maps ESPN tomorrow might have to check out I still think they should have done

[01:46:55] a little bit more to get Kyrie from Brooklyn I think because you would have been able to keep LeBron you'd have been able to keep AD and then with guys like Kyrie I think Kyrie can handle the

[01:47:11] the star making the star playmaking role with LeBron on a bench I would have given up whatever realistic pieces that I could have given up but not just give up the whole lot to get Kyrie

[01:47:25] but I felt like you they should have done something like that because they were trying to nickel and diamond and hope they keep ringing hot some more Jackson Hayes and those are the

[01:47:36] guys is like you need to make a splash and then back fill it the way to clippers it maybe some young talent but you keep the Angela Russell that any given night like he's he was a number

[01:47:50] two overalls he heard never I can't have him check this down I saw I saw this I read about him it was that the Lakers they can further each other to for him to go with a bit to pick it for him to go with

[01:48:04] the game yes I saw the play against Toronto in that game last week where he got a song yeah he came back again okay I didn't see their game against KC last night but yeah like I still

[01:48:22] maintain that speaking of okay see I still maintain that okay see should not make a deal I think they should just let it ride out this season yeah I think that Minnesota is still a

[01:48:35] year away just based off of experience you know Kat that want to play on series but they experience I get that argument if the older teams weren't old teams right so it's like if you're

[01:48:54] planned against the 2016 Golden State Warriors and or we'll go to 2017 Golden State Warriors there an experience team but they're just a little older than the younger team I think now a lot of the

[01:49:10] more experienced teams are just old no I get that but what I mean I think Minnesota can steal I think they can steal a game yeah they could be the Lakers in this series they could be you

[01:49:21] and athleticism yeah they could be the Lakers in the series they could be you know some play it team but what I say that I'm thinking more so along the lines of the game yeah challenging somebody like

[01:49:34] Denver and I think I think you could you could really put the challenge on Denver because Michael Porter Jr is still hit a miss I think he's still sometimes you can leave him open

[01:49:46] Aaron Gordon is an athletics threat but if you just let him dribbled a ball too much if he dribbled all more than five seconds he's going to turn it over. Jail him around style yeah just not what

[01:49:57] you're does it's just Yoke is a Gok is does control the floor but you have for like a bit of word a few blueprint games of how you can beat Denver what even with Yoke it's like it says it's

[01:50:11] Steve Nash can under where you just basically let him get his let him shoot the ball 27 times and give 44 points but keep this system for you can keep this system under five yeah you can you go 44 16 and four you're probably gonna win that game by eight yeah we

[01:50:30] saw that tonight you know not the 44 but the lowest this the lowest this but I think he was like nearly 30 points double digit rebounds yeah I bet some rebounds at one point you know he likes to get

[01:50:44] the assist he likes that he likes to throw that the no look bounce pass he likes to run the break but one behind his head tonight he looks but if if if on the break if you just run to the shooters

[01:50:58] and just make him dribbled it all with the court and fight whoever is going to defend them at the rims especially if you have a big man it comes up the bench you give up six files and just make him

[01:51:08] like you you're running a fast break cool you're not gonna be able to get his ball up you got to run a whole 94 feet dribbling his basketball all game long and you're gonna have 44 points

[01:51:18] which you go go you can get 26 27 shots you'll get the rebounds because you're gonna get some of your misses because you're gonna be at the rim but we're not gonna let you kick it out we don't

[01:51:27] make you put it right back up and that's what the maker make was had my game like that and I think was in the NBA finals last year I think Miami had a game where I think it was game two

[01:51:43] where he had three assists but he had like 40 something points but he's shot like 28 shots yeah yeah I'm interested in saying Cleveland versus Milwaukee tomorrow night on ESP as well just from the standpoint of Cleveland has been surprised at me with how well they've played

[01:52:02] without mobiley and garland so I know last week we were talking about I think it was last week we were talking about should day trade dot of initial I still think the answer to that

[01:52:13] question is yes because I just don't know if you could keep a star in Cleveland but you know mobiley is a all-NBA defense type dude you know garland the only problem is is that I think

[01:52:28] that garland and Mitchell kind of intersecting some ways that like they end up being the same dude at times and like it's just jumps higher yeah you don't want also you don't want that you

[01:52:47] would want that in a co-wide Paul George frame right because like they that for three or four extra and yeah I'm in brown tape yeah jesus brown tape I'm like okay I got a six eight

[01:53:01] guy and a six seven guy then kind of do the same thing but they can do multiple things that impact the game whereas I'm not sure if dot of a Mitchell what he's doing for you defensively right

[01:53:14] on a switch or just getting in the past and laying I don't think he's like abnormally linkedly I think he just athletic you know I think he's stocking strong but if you have two guys like that

[01:53:27] okay you don't you don't stress my defense because I just put the same guy on each one of you so I can switch to the same balance you were as like Paul George and Kowai's like I don't have

[01:53:39] two or three guys on the floor in James Hardwick's six five you know will and will and the shoot will and the take context I'm like I don't have three defenders that I could run at

[01:53:50] these three guys all at one time I don't have three guys that I don't have two guys on my team that I can run at Taneham and Brown consistently all game right I'm going to be I'm going to be

[01:54:02] in the mismatch somewhere either I'm gonna put a bigger guy on Taneham and he's gonna have the speed matchup or I put a smaller guy on him and maybe he won't be as quick but then now you switch

[01:54:13] to the post up right same thing with Jalen Brown what's this rivals week oh NBA trials of things rivals week yeah I'm getting a bronze dunk in the highlight package just saw that

[01:54:31] yeah so I guess through the throw jaguar 23rd to 27th teams are gonna play their rivals this is the second time they're doing it so there you go but yeah so so the NBA is in full swing we're getting

[01:54:50] close to the all-star breaks so therefore to train dead line is coming up I mentioned Siakum you know talk it talks potentially with the Pacers it looks like Atlanta has may Jalen Johnson unavailable which makes sense to me you know but at this point

[01:55:09] who is a contender or as you'd say a contender but just a team that's in the playoff or like near the playoff that could be a contender that you feel needs to make a move it doesn't have to be a specific player but just who's missing something

[01:55:33] because what I look at Philly I was looking at the Philly game today and I was talking about the rebounds and I was like I don't know if they have the size because in B and B can't taste every rebound

[01:55:49] because he's the offensive powerhouse in the other end so Yorkie just said was getting he was getting rebounds and they were getting a lot of second chance that's I think one possession

[01:56:02] I got two or three shots up to buy his hair is a big body but I know if he's necessarily like a rebounder but tune is there but he not things up between um not but tune is there but tune yeah my

[01:56:15] bad I was looking at based on plumbing he looks like you know super life's kind of it's same jersey gone but he's you know he's an older player it's only so much you can really do

[01:56:27] so if they could make a move to maybe get some muscle out when he's team this loser maybe you throw a couple of future draft picks at Detroit and get one of their big men out for Ben

[01:56:36] I know somebody I was reading uh suggest it Kuzba but but but also think what do you want to get though like when you trade for Kuzba what are you going to get you're going to get like a real

[01:56:49] cerebral player you're going to get like you don't like it I don't like it because you lose your if you're going to lose Tobias Harris's shooting to make that happen Kuzba doesn't bring enough back

[01:57:00] for you to give that up you know I think role players are important I think everybody's trying to train get stars it's like get some role players get some guys that get some real three and

[01:57:14] D guys get some guys that will come out there like I would not let talk about at the tail of his career he was like I knew I was only getting two shots of game if I was getting any at all

[01:57:24] right so I had to lock in defensively because I know I'm only going to get a couple of shots right PJ Tucker PJ Tucker would go no shots all game long will have five files

[01:57:39] but impact the game more here guys I have six one seven rebounds you know yes seven rebounds close out bad shots cause a turn over here there that doesn't count as a steel just

[01:57:53] just that tipping the ball and just just that you know that relentlessness and I think a lot of a teams need guys like that and they hardly ever make trades from like see I could go to

[01:58:04] get pick up but you got it you got to go to a team that's willing that's able to resign him well till your point about Billy that's how I feel about Sacramento as well like I feel like

[01:58:18] Sacramento's missing something because Harrison Barnes is obviously a year older he's not the player that he was a gold estate early in his career you know but he still gets minutes and they aren't playing

[01:58:30] your guy I mean look what are you watching so okay see game yeah just all Paul George hit the tray but then my TV froze real quick okay once it comes back you'll see this is why I hate the three point

[01:58:41] shot and yeah I just back now oh yeah yeah just but shoot the open three just because yeah I think that they aren't playing your guy a lot Davey on Mitchell so if you're not going

[01:59:04] to use of you might as well trade him and get something that you will use because Anna let it tell you you can't use a six to one or six to guy but I'm like if he has a dog you know

[01:59:16] right if you got a pet bev kind of guy you need that guy pet bev like I say we're talking about for drop thirty some average thirty seven points in high school and she got right and there's

[01:59:26] somewhere he just plays defense and yeah sometimes this all you need you just needs people given the warrior's last year he was given the warrior's fits last year he was given Kevin Durant

[01:59:38] fits when he played for the clippers and he's like he still got 50 points he was like nothing we didn't try to stop him oh I was talking about Davey on Mitchell yeah like yeah

[01:59:48] Davey I'm like that kind of like that matter you know so I just feel as if teens they want to swing for the fences which is fine but you need the manufacturer some stuff in there you need

[02:00:04] the manufacturer second chance point you need the manufacturer good defensive stand you need the manufacturer the opportunity so you can get the offensive rebound kick out for the expert to open three points shot yeah you might run this set where the guy gets the opportunity at the

[02:00:20] three but the scramble for the rebound is where every all the jumble all that had right so you get a PJ Tucker scramble and gets the ball back in now defense is out of position

[02:00:31] because two or three and then we're trying to get the rebound now you get an open three yeah dog you're gonna lose this challenge it's the last thing for me you know balls

[02:00:43] I'm not picking on the balls but balls both people are trying to do it just do it like we saw what Atlanta ended up getting for John Collins after years of pissing around and not making

[02:00:59] the move you know so you might as well just get it over with you're gonna not get you're not gonna get what you think you deserve for him because everybody knows it's been too long

[02:01:13] yeah so if I know you got some of the regulations you gotta sell the card and pay your court fees I'm not gonna need a 50 thousand as for yeah just just call my head just call my

[02:01:24] Amy get Kyle Laurie and something and just move on why you can't you know saying but yo that note he is world famous you jersey's own your way of VA your astrological born in Texas I am myself I am born in Baltimore went through the winters of Alaska

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