HEAVY IS THE CROWN
Sports Reports As OrderedJune 28, 2024
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HEAVY IS THE CROWN

Two-Five has a disagreement with John Wall. (09:10) Mr. Logical thanks ‪@TonyTheSavant‬ for putting boxing back on his radar. (01:10) NBA has come and gone with a lot of mid but some fireworks. (10:35) The drama surrounding Bronny is expected. (51:25)

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[00:00:01] Yeah, I've been sitting up here and I've made a decision. If Mr. Lovicou don't pay me what he owe, I'm going to Australia! That's where we act tonight. Sports Reports As Ordered, Do Be A Favorite Y'all. Give me a like.

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[00:00:33] And a cross from me is the one and only even killed. born in Texas, raised in VA! Reppers in the James family! He is Mr. Lovicou, and young girl, we are one and night, we're going to recapture MBAs.

[00:00:56] We're gonna talk about the one and only rich off, but first we gonna start it off We ended up my chest Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna be on the night. We have some statements here But two all stral ya

[00:01:15] First and foremost I'm gonna shout out Tony that's a Vont Gal with connected wit has a great podcast going on great network. He's doing great things But he talks about boxing a lot And I want to say some of our boxing

[00:01:29] One guy on particular David Haney softens cotton candy man softens cotton candy listen I grew up in the area where you took your elves and you came back

[00:01:38] You take an elf you get up you dust yourself off and if you want to get you get back you meet him in the right spot You get you get back you don't go to court

[00:01:48] You don't sue you don't go to pie cast the wine so he was on it been made out over an area of Hawaii And he just you can't sound intimidating and So off to the same time so I'm gonna say it's on it soft when you say something

[00:02:06] I'd another man took from you. He took this for me. He took this for me. He took this for me Yo, he beats you in hand in hand combat. Yeah, so he was a little dirty If you'd have just kept you right hand up

[00:02:19] He would have just been hitting your glove You got sloppy because you got rock for the first time in your career You were on a canvas and you didn't have the mental force say it in where we thought to make it through that adversity

[00:02:31] He did he got knocked out of a fight. He's been going crazy on social media And I don't like how he's moving but he bet on himself Maybe he strikes it a little bit by giving that he got he's gonna get his fines when get his punishment

[00:02:47] You say you get on this another someone is when his band is over. We go on back at it I don't care about the record because it's not as we didn't see him get get you to work It's like when college teams vacate wins

[00:03:01] We saw less miles coaching went games to wins We saw that you're not gonna forget that we saw Reggie Bush win the highest man But I'm gonna make it this forget cuz you take it out of the rule book

[00:03:09] So taking away your loss making it zero people like you're not undefeated be watched you lose We saw it so stop getting I hate wine to talk about I'm a son with my money backing on the business man first. No, you're not you a box at home

[00:03:23] box get back in the ring Work on your style. Don't wear them heavy ass shorts and heavy ass like sweat pants until the ring that wavy down Coming out some real boxing shit don't come to try to be cute

[00:03:37] Don't come to try to advertise the essentials and fear God another brand come out there in box That's the problem with these new boxes. They think they got to be a brand not you got a box

[00:03:48] You get knocked out too many times you'll be like the anti wilder here doing temptation spin moves Trying to get a buck and saw to your rabia Like go on there while you still young take advantage of this son

[00:03:59] I don't go be doing interviews acting all salt until me he took this from me Yeah, well my pound of flesh you're not getting the pound of flesh agn like I can't he home me So cut it out YPT is this and go cry on a corner

[00:04:14] Call it there. Let's get you shit together get your mind right, but don't be coming on his podcast How much you want you pound the flesh and you smell like a whole bitch right now? Let's keep looking Oh, that's nothing and some day about it

[00:04:26] When you keep saying he took this when he took this when yeah, he took it because he kept hooking you keep your right hand up He was only throwing one shot. He was exhausted. He was drinking beer He was not working out. He wasn't ready for the fight

[00:04:37] So Get in my rake stay off the TV we know who you are Getting next fight lined up Go pound the flesh Don't be doing that way right here like a little little thing and spun up on tell little paper calling hand up to children

[00:04:57] You know that made me think my favorite candy is sweet tart You know that I just you know You have a flat I'm gonna win the machine too that they whip it up with the cotton candy to you know Crunch which is softness

[00:05:11] Yo, so I was thinking about that because you know Ryan Garcia's got suspended for a year now and You know according to what I was hearing Devin Haney sounds like he's gonna take a year off in plan to fight Garcia whenever that

[00:05:27] Submit suspension is uplifted. My beef is with my fellow Baltimoreian You know Javante Where Why him and Ryan so buddy buddy now Like I don't understand that you know, so because I remember when this whole thing first came out

[00:05:47] Tank came out and was like no Ryan is clean Ryan ain't cheap like you know all this kind of stuff like that And then take only one of fight people when they're dehydrated

[00:05:57] You know say tank only want to fight people like he's also he's reminded me of TBE a little bit You know saying like I want to see you fight these dudes full strength You know versus don't wait until Five years from now to try to fight Shakur

[00:06:15] You know to me don't wait till three years from now to try to fight T. O. Fimo You know saying best of the best now Yeah, look I said this is guys so could certainly be in the brand of like listen May whether has an all world personality

[00:06:32] That's his advantage Outside of the ring inside the ring he was damn near unhittable He did both you guys are trying to mimic his Blueprint it said a foul in his blueprint his craft what he did in the ring He was unstoppable

[00:06:53] I think Shane molded got a good couple clean hits on him zab due to my dego to once or twice and I think my Gregor Hold love touched his face once but other than that the guys been just literally

[00:07:06] He beat everybody is 50 you know granny. He did do the same thing when he waited some years But his personality outside of the ring because it didn't have any endorsements all this money comes from inside the ring

[00:07:16] He was one of the highest paid athletes for years with no real corporate sponsors No watch deals no liquor brands no Nike deals none of that right you guys aren't him He's a great

[00:07:29] I think a lot of people think because they have access to these greats via social media and they can see him all the time that they're on the same level You're not You're so many not just below this guy x-a-jump runny he tried that same thing

[00:07:44] You want to be in that camp you got to be in the camp with the guy that and learn from the guy you can't be him You cannot be one of these greats all these guys that work out with Tom Brady that is

[00:07:56] Great for you to build on yet not gonna be time Shout out the wheel lovers like you you can tell you all around so everything and all the defenses is how to beat cover three

[00:08:08] You're not gonna be him absorb everything you can from him and carry it in your own tool bag All you guys have been in Floyd's corner you should have stayed there

[00:08:21] He has a form that it works, but yet you want to strike out on your own because you get a few million followers on Instagram and You think you think you live

[00:08:30] It's it's that's the high works. I think you guys think everything is microwave some shit goes in the oven Maybe that hit it 400 degrees

[00:08:37] Some shit got to be a 225 or a few hours. Got to let it marinate a little bit night over everything and just open the wrap and put it in a microwave for 90 seconds Speak up Speaking of all the memories You're gonna 400 degrees shout out the juvenile

[00:08:55] You know, but yeah, so if I get it off my chest it's a little closer to home you know to me because I got beef Mr John wall Show yourself Mr. I'm the greatest wizard of all time For one you're not the greatest point guard of wizard time

[00:09:20] There was a guy named hubachi who wants to put up a 60 burger and Kobe Bryant's eye Now granted John wall is one of my favorite players that I've ever watched play So I don't want to shit on them too bad for thinking highly of himself

[00:09:36] But what I will say is Talk to me when you become a bullet or wizard with a finals MVP Talk to me when you become a bullet or a wizard that won rookie of the year

[00:09:50] Come see me when you lose a playoff series to LeBron James instead of Isaiah Thomas and I ain't talking about the one that used to pick on MJ

[00:10:00] Come see me if you want to be the greatest wizard of all time after you will accomplish at least one of those things Contact me when you make more all NBA teams or all NBA first teams that Gilbert are Reenus

[00:10:14] You know I've said just like Joe but instead Call me Gilbert. I met a wall. I couldn't conquer You said so moving on this is the second edition of who are these dudes? So last year

[00:10:30] Mr. logical and I started this great show and we were trying to figure out some of these dudes in the NBA draft Who are they where they came from and this year we might be a little bit even more confused that we were last year True

[00:10:45] So there were some things that I liked about the draft there's some things that scratches my head about the draft We will get some bronzy later out promise, but you oh, I'm sorry LeBron Jr We'll get to him later so get to Brownie later

[00:10:58] So you know as I was watching the NBA draft You know to me. I was trying to figure out Where did the draft go wrong Because mr. logical

[00:11:10] I'm listening we said we was on one tonight right a little bit a little bit all right let's take the bandaid off So All you people out there who are suddenly champions of women's college basketball And how great the WMBA is now how great women's basketball is now

[00:11:30] You don't say it riddle me this How many players do you know That do not play for Iowa LSU South Carolina or You con as of this moment and don't and oh yeah, you don't count either

[00:11:48] You don't say how many people do y'all know so as we're preparing for the WMBA next year I saw UCLA made the elite eight this pasties and lost the LSU Who's the player on UCLA that I'm supposed to be looking forward for in the WMBA draft next year

[00:12:04] You know who am I supposed to be looking for from Maryland next year does Tennessee have anybody coming? You can't answer it can you I thought so so back to the NBA draft So yes, there's a lot of players in here that we don't know

[00:12:18] College basketball has a problem that hopefully in I.L. will take care of from the standpoint of Somebody's guys getting feedback from scouts

[00:12:28] Telling them they're going to be in the low 20s and then they go you know what I'm gonna go back to school get this $3 million in I.L And then that way I'm a better player with the NBA draft comes called So

[00:12:40] That's first and foremost second of all Mr. logical Listen Yeah, not Listen, I thought he was a first round pick simply because he's seven foot four He's a winner. We want to all the awards

[00:12:56] And you can't teach size I can teach you how to be a better defender. I can teach you out of slide I could even increase your athleticism Because they said it had them at 7 foot 4 299 pounds

[00:13:08] Maybe get them in 284 pounds you can move a little move a little faster 10 15 pounds off a 22 23 year old guy That's a few weeks with an NBA staff NBA diet chef whatever the case may be let me get you down to We want you plan at 22 280

[00:13:26] Okay, there's 20 pounds off now he could defend and be Once he learns like still got to learn but now he has an athleticism To to show on a picking roll. He has a athleticism if they want to blitz if they want to trap

[00:13:39] If they want to keep him in the game for like all physics defense or swaths She was free throw as well as can score well like rebound you leave them out there So I think Memphis is a good job because we talked about this Memphis

[00:13:52] was only in this position because jog I heard After his suspension So he only played about think like nine games. I think of single-digit number games that he played So they would have two seed

[00:14:06] This you know last season prior to them. So based like you said the other day they were basically okay see In their minds like you were okay see when we get job back

[00:14:16] So let's get the best player that was in college basketball for the last couple of years Put them on the floor and just bulk up the talent everyone everyone's gonna like we always talk about it

[00:14:26] Someone's gonna try to mimic what's working well people probably gonna try to mimic what Minnesota did And what Boston is doing so if you're closer to what Boston has where you have a couple of young guys

[00:14:37] Some shooters you might try to make a move to add a guy like like a Paul George kind of like Got like that that next guy that's some free to see

[00:14:46] Couple in the which your your young stars or if you're a team that's close to Minnesota where you have a big man And you can see me one more big man to make this one tower work your defense. Then you go and do that I think

[00:14:59] Memphis in a position aware. I mean when they were most successful when they had you know like ran off in Markos All I know everybody's student three's but a lot of those three's get miss got teams only shooting like 30s

[00:15:12] I'm the percent from three so that's seven out of 10 shots that can be rebounded I rather have a seven for four guy down and I'd have collected So I like it I like it in nine because what are you gonna do just get some got some unknown

[00:15:25] Everyone everyone went the way it was in our known Well, I like it because You still got Aaron Jackson that can hide him a little bit of necessary Until we play in the four instead of making them

[00:15:37] And then you know you got our guy Brandon Clark you know who's been hurt You know When Memphis was the two seed two years ago like you brought up they had a god name Stephen Adams

[00:15:49] So you know if Zach Edy can be somewhat of a semblance of the presence not necessarily the player But the presence that Stephen Adams was Then that's a win within itself Memphis wasn't the type of team

[00:16:01] Imagine the picking role when you run because think about somebody's guys that got drafted last time I had to get you all but there was a lot of guys at a six foot 11 27 pounds Now imagine that guy's on the way he gets screened by Zach Edy

[00:16:16] 89 and four out four like And then Zine so in his E in Macon Zine Athletic enough the role now you got a guy who got to switch on to him at the he's just ran into him like Right We need way but two 15

[00:16:35] Yeah, I thought I liked that So come so come in into last night. You know I was a little upset because the wizard said got rid of my dude You know Danny of yeah and I was like yo

[00:16:46] But when I thought about it I saw what we drafted you know we got start number two Got Bob Carrington you know at number 14 who I brought up prior to the draft You know 18 years old he's a picking role monster He's from the great city of Baltimore

[00:17:02] You know he has parents that were athletic and played basketball So he's a project and you know what that's what we need You know saying keep Sean George you know later on the draft You know six foot seven still figuring it out

[00:17:16] You know and we're team that's still figuring it out so with that being said I was like did you have via is the kind of God that you want on a championship team? We are not a championship team but ever since the wizards got John Wall

[00:17:30] You know bring him back up back in the day to me They've been a mirror of the Portland Trail Blazers we had John Wall and Bradley Bill they had Damon CJ Now as we go forward We're trying to figure it out there trying to figure it out

[00:17:44] But they're ahead of us and they went and got dawn of it clinking So Mr. logical do you think that that means the Andre Andre Aten is on his way out or is that a twin tower

[00:17:55] Situation potentially once they get I heard the same thing last night when they made the pick and I'm thinking the same thing is like What are you saying what do you think you're gonna add to your team by trading the Andre Aten away?

[00:18:08] So to be his third team in three years That's the medicine value no one's gonna look like if you're willing to trade You definitely can get the value back that he by present because I think he's a walk in 17 and 12 got

[00:18:22] That's what he and Phoenix when they didn't even call him place for they weren't call any post I was like you know get open around around and get out the net get it off the ramp put it back

[00:18:31] He still was giving you 17 and 12 a lot of offensive effort Size once again. I thought this isn't my 7 feet tall It's like why can't you make that work? It's not as if he is incapable of playing

[00:18:45] Big minutes he was on an MBA final see mirror up to oh Mean two more games he's in be a champion, but yet you can't figure out how to get 7 feet 200 something pounds Appleticism to work it's just making the system you're like why bring in a rookie and

[00:19:00] Think okay now can you rid of that the he could learn from or we can anchor our defense around because you got a bunch of small guards You have a coach is probably on the hot seat

[00:19:10] You don't have a definitive score the your draft pick you took them to overall last year is a shell of an MBA player Yeah, he's built like he started he looks like he's 30 replays like he's 13

[00:19:21] Well, it's out there just completely over match was like what make it easy make it easy on the the point guard to have two big men That get rebounds kicking out to them set hard screens rolled in the basket Like utilized talents that would be like oh

[00:19:37] We're done with this we were replaceable this other thing that's unknown We've never seen an MBA jersey play a good something to me players, but now we're gonna move the it's just like the

[00:19:46] Last mind it doesn't work to me. It's just there's something just sort of work. You know and I don't want to stay to have never understood Recently is like recently's warm in mind the most you know who's draft I really liked who the Utah Jazz

[00:20:01] You know picking up Cody Williams in the first round, you know J. Dubbs brother You know you know I've been big on him ever since this draft process started You know 19 years old 40% 3. Shooter only going to get better

[00:20:14] Hopefully he can be somewhat near what his brother turned into But you know to me at least you know he has that Pedigree slash DNA will see what happens. Yeah They look super goofy yeah, that was dumb. Yeah

[00:20:28] Typically therefore Brad shout out to your Sarah force and then as far as as far as value goes they got Isaiah Collier down at 29 Who coming into this year before college basketball started and all that he was a lot of repicking and some people had them top tenish

[00:20:48] You know so that that could be your future point guard You know I compare them to time reek Evans So you know you have somebody to conduct your offense everybody doesn't necessarily have to be a shooter

[00:20:59] But I would like for his shooting to get a little bit better But grabbing him at 29 instead of say 15 I think is a win within itself because even if it doesn't work There's not a certain pressure that comes with picking him at 29 and

[00:21:15] According to you know what I've been reading and picking up on he's also working with Baron Davis and Raj Strickland So you could do a lot worse than that, you know as far as mentorship Trying to get ready for the NBA event in the second round

[00:21:31] They went and got Kyle Philipowski, you know who again was another You know God that was projected to be a lottery pick last year He's falling down so of course you can argue hey He fell out of the lottery so how good is he really?

[00:21:46] But you know what college basketball is odd like that. You know, he's a Utah player He's he's he's the type of player that's gonna sell out 41. Yeah. He's the new Kelly olytic and And you're sitting there when you look at it, right?

[00:22:00] He was on a team with Jared McCain You know who went 16 to the sixers. You know he was on a team with Roach and Proctor so a school like Duke you're on the court with all these five stars all these McDonald's all Americans

[00:22:17] So sometimes it's hard to tell what you're gonna be at that next level because the ball There's only one basketball You know what I mean and maybe it was just an issue of He just got lost in the shuffle because the team changed so dramatically year to year

[00:22:32] But grabbing him where you talk grabbed him so it may not be about the player itself But where they got the player they can bring him along because they draft the Hendrix last year You know, so it's not so it's not necessarily

[00:22:46] Philipowski you're in the lineup right now and I want you to go stop Jason Tatham You know to me like we got time to build this yeah, except in foot. It's gonna help you toss a relevant

[00:23:00] Like you talk always has a good draft because they just go they go for guys that can keep the ball moving Smart guys smart players guys who don't mind not average and double digits because a lot of you

[00:23:13] I think that was the issue with Boozer and Darren Williams when it got to West kind of his finals back in the late 2000s like 2007 or eight somewhere around that time

[00:23:23] Even down of a mids where we'd go bare. I think that would have been a good match, but it's something about the way The jazz just set up That they don't really have of Behaves if they have a need for like a superstar to like lead them

[00:23:38] So they always get like these guys like just grow good guys put them together and we're gonna Well over achieve when we went 50 games and we'll play exactly to our level

[00:23:50] We went 38 games, but we're all happy because we sold out 41 home games like that's where you taught is A lot of teams are that but like you taught think they played to that like they don't sit there and try to chase free

[00:24:02] He's just like they're not gonna offer Paul George three years 160 Yeah, they're not even making that call So you know who had me excited until they didn't Detroit the alamo So I was excited Yeah, they picked up my guy's death castle just like I want to them too

[00:24:24] So now you got your defensive anchor in the back court to go along with your defensive anchor in the front court I think that he's gonna be a top two with three defender in this draft

[00:24:33] I think that he has the potential to be an SGA kind of guy if it all works out You know it's a project you know what I mean, but I think that's the top layer of potential that he has if he can get there

[00:24:45] So then they went and got robbed dilling ham later And I said we are in action. I'm getting season tickets And then they traded You literally can say that no that he's not captain And then they traded him for a pick in 2030 and 2031

[00:25:04] But then I said to myself why would they do such a thing and then I said Oh That must be a part of the trade young package You know what I mean, but before I even get to that Rob Dillingham goes to Minnesota

[00:25:18] Absolutely love it because why would they need against Dallas more offense? So what did they do? They went in got Dillingham and they went in got Terrent Shannon Jr So you know to me like that right there even though they're both rookies

[00:25:33] You know these are rookies that are score first players That you know if Mike Conley, you know a set of the offense can't get it done You bring in Dillingham to play a little Mono genobly role potentially

[00:25:45] You know if he can't get it done you got Terrent Shannon to where you can put Anthony Edwards on the bench for a minute And not feel like it's all going to come crumble in down But then of course if you have Anthony Edwards in the game

[00:25:59] That's another person that's near him that can handle the ball so that he doesn't have to play the fact-oh point guard So it's another guy with size that can handle the rock and Initiate offense even if it's not just based off of

[00:26:15] Direct scoring but as far as the first go I really want it Dillingham along with Castle from the standpoint of you can go get trade young You know, but Dillingham and Castle would have been on rookie contracts and

[00:26:31] You still got all that money to build your wings and everything else when you're roster or I guess you can pay for a young with his old Watch a defense plum in any way And then have less money and resources

[00:26:46] The put the rest I mean you do but they had well 2016 defense yeah, but they were probably also 2017 off It is grow a lot of points. I don't think the NBA has that big of a

[00:27:01] An issue with the cap because I don't do they pay that many players The NFL has a problem with the cap because it's so many different positions and each guy who's the best at his or his position Once again, paid whatever the highest going rate is so

[00:27:21] If you're the best guard And on the Miami Dolphins and your contract is due you want the top guard money and the top receiver money and top corner money So like all their money is kind of like divided up amongst these 22 spots

[00:27:38] So I want the top outside live back or money. I want to top edge risk or money So I think they the NFL teams run money What they If you pay trade young 45 million You're probably you still find plans three or four guys that get minutes

[00:27:57] You're probably a pan of a total of 20 million. Well, I know they paid Vasil 170 or so last year So you know, so bringing training young into that. I mean, I guess that bothers you a few seasons before it's time to max

[00:28:10] Win be and then by then you may be you move off of the sell Move off when he's other guys. Yeah, and But I think you can move off the quarterback when you got to pay the guard like you know

[00:28:21] But I just thought that you have an opportunity to build a little bit because like we talked about the West You know next year Memphis is coming back okay, see we'll be there. We I mean, I imagine Dallas will be somewhere near Denver will still be there

[00:28:34] So it's not like you're going to the West and conference finals next year anyway So you know so I feel like you had time To build and develop versus trying to microwave trade young just to get 38 wins or so

[00:28:48] And think that you're making progress when you're probably not maybe they may be there not in the tray young I mean, could be somebody else but I'm I understand I know I said like I think it would work for San Antonio, but it's like

[00:29:03] It was space to floor for win be but I don't know what you do with the other pieces. I think Trey young you would need another wing score To really help out because I guess where I would have said I would have probably

[00:29:16] But my best guard on my best wing defender will put them on tray young and that's why I probably would have said I'd rather have the John Tay then tray, but now that you got stuff on castle

[00:29:26] You can't get the John take is now you got no space So you know what I mean so you still need the spacer But and you'd like one back to San Antonio I mean they were talking about it at the trade deadline. We'll see That's the next

[00:29:39] For the big problem is but we know how to go you said it on TV So then and so then into what the hell category Now it's the team that mr. logical brought up a few seconds ago It's right that's right

[00:29:53] They went and got my guy Ron Hollin who I think has the ability to beat a best player in his draft if he meets his potential This is the problem. It's another dude that can't shoot

[00:30:03] You don't say it and you got a sergeant. So next you draft it last year You're gonna seem for the guy six foot five You're like you know what it is you know it is it's the Lakers but without AD and LeBron

[00:30:16] It's the young Lakers yeah, but this is the good news rap. This is the good news. I do have good news Yeah, got good news Raagen Langden came in from New Orleans and with him He brought the one and only Fred Vincent

[00:30:31] Who is Fred Vincent you may ask he is the right now he is the guy that fixed laws Oball shot He's the guy that fixed her of Jones shot He's the guy that fixed Brandon Eggroom shot

[00:30:44] So he has history of dealing with these type of guys that maybe as a mechanic It was but yes, yeah, because I don't think Ron Hollin I don't think Ron Hollin has a bad shot. It looks good

[00:30:56] Maybe something's off with the release or the point you know like something within the motion But it looks good so I don't think that he's a I don't think that he can't shoot But I think that's something yeah, he's only 18 but I think somebody's other dudes

[00:31:10] I don't think K Kane Hans that great of a shooter like he's okay. I don't think Brandon or Jane and IV is That great of a shooter so maybe having somebody like that in the locker room will fix these problems

[00:31:22] But I know that as they assudes on the trade on the trade Block you know wise men is probably going to be a free agent the big ticket. I don't know why you getting rid of the big ticket You still got jail and Deren

[00:31:34] Maybe he's a trade piece down the road but that Back court going into middle of the front court is awful because How do you break up the minutes? You know because Kane's about to get paid and get maxed out

[00:31:50] You know you still got IV you got Marcus Sasser who you drafted last year who might be better than IV You know and then you got Holland and I saw her now So it's almost like the same issues that I have with Houston

[00:32:06] Where you got too many people that you're trying to develop at one time Too many people that need minutes too many people that need shots and there's just not enough to go around and then Houston went out here And drafted read shepherd, you know who

[00:32:21] When I'm here and a lot of people think he has the potential to be the best player in the draft and I didn't want to compare him to all Stereus but I was like damn Dude really does look like Austin Reeves Austin Reeves

[00:32:34] Yeah, but Austin Reeves won third and then be a draft. Yeah six go one You know to me but he might be the best shooter in the draft. I think it's McCain But he could be the best shooter in this draft but at the same time

[00:32:46] He'd like he go step or something I mean listen stuff stuff wasn't stuff I mean we saw the Dave's stuff was stuff We realized he really is that dude I mean You what are you gonna do like you're gonna just

[00:33:08] Is just something I get that the size thing Like like Dilly him is they have to look at a five one send it next to Monty Monica Ignat she dwarfed them She looked way bigger than him His suit look like he just looks small right like not like

[00:33:29] Skinny he just looks small like You're not fight through screen You're gonna get bumped off your spot like you're catching shoot Exclusively Just if he was skinny and tall at least maybe the handle so you can get some floaters He's also short short and small like it's it's

[00:33:52] I think it was a weird combination Re-sheper I think if you can get his shots off Whatever Houston is doing like owner of the China mix these old because we saw reports of them potentially going to the Jimmy Butler and Katie

[00:34:05] It's like what kind of team are you trying to have Like you trying to have a team with a bunch of CNCOs and brand new airmen Yeah, go for this one

[00:34:15] In his last coaching tenure before he joined the rocket's that just wants to get back is all I got because Like I said as I look right microwave Yes the same things like you got You got family you got a men who you're trying to develop

[00:34:31] You got jail in green who you got to figure out if you want to pay you got your very Smith Who you got to figure out if you want to pay you got shade goon who is supposed to be

[00:34:41] You know one of the next good big men in the league you go So you can't you don't really like you decided to pay Dylan Brooks. You know you know you brought it Jeff Green as your veteran

[00:34:52] It's a series I right take regards I have on my team and tell like you'll flip a switch You could be my bag at versus breaking the guy who's gonna blow show bricks and get beat off the dribble

[00:35:02] And then you still got TRE sent on the bench who might prove to be better than your boys Smith at some point So so it's the same thing where you just got all these dudes that you're trying to develop and bring along

[00:35:12] But you can't do it because you keep filling out your roster You know like like all these dudes that I mean really shepherds the number three draft pick

[00:35:20] I have to assume he's gonna play some and you did you just pick the song number I mean number four last year So you know

[00:35:27] I'm as burned he got last year, but you don't need to pay too old dude. Just like go all the way young and grow

[00:35:35] Or go old and go for for three that's why I thought that they should be treated the pick that's why I thought they should have treated the pick And I want once to go to high like you if you're 23 historically

[00:35:48] You want to get at least what whoever tried to trade in three five years ago If they will give a three or four picks and a player Five picks and a player that's what you want. I don't think there was any team and any positions

[00:36:01] Gonna be like yeah, I need to move up to three to get one of these guys because like we said Up until from one through eight or all unknowns I think eating you probably plug in play for sure But you don't know if

[00:36:19] This guy from these guys from France and Australia and all those other places where they were playing If that's gonna translate because if you look at some of those highlights They were literally the biggest dudes on the court a lot of their dunks were completely

[00:36:32] Accontested a lot of their jumpers were uncontested the lanes were wide open It was like people that wouldn't even like trying to defend them even in behavior players will risk getting dunked on To attempt to block your shot and they might value you they might fight your heart

[00:36:49] It might get your army and you missed a dunk you get two free throws these guys when even deal with that adversity Right, but well you know like they were talking about Jay Billis was talking about as well to to continue your point

[00:37:01] Jay Billis was talking about how SAR basically had the opportunity to play against better competition and He shy to wait from it like he went to lower leagues and all that kind of stuff to Avoid some of that stuff so then it so so then SAR

[00:37:20] So so talking about like you would just big fish in a little pot right then which brings me to Bouselus who One of those value picks. I don't know how I feel about the player

[00:37:32] But just value because he was projected as a top four or five player the bulls got him at eleven He's a Chicago kid so Family was running table shot out to mids mids a little health month Like I really I think It felt as if

[00:37:55] You know guys get drafted and say there was ten mistakes ahead of me and they came off all stoic and it's like right who said it? I think Josh Rosen said it in an NFL draft for some like that. It's like what you suck cut it out

[00:38:10] When he was like I knew he was I mean let's use hurtness shoulders in the head and and college you like we don't think he happened to NFL

[00:38:19] But like I said when they were trying to do his interview and he was crying and his brother was crying and people crying around a table was like it feels Like a passionate group of people That kind of harness this guy to this position

[00:38:35] Granted the competition is about the same I like his trash talk. I like his a little swag he had going on You know, he's not quite key on combing this far as like just kept you Right, but

[00:38:48] It was like the personality because I said the interview you sent me you talked about dude don't want to see him He said it so calmly he was like dude don't want to see me. He's like I pressed it multiple times

[00:38:59] He didn't want to see me. I'm like okay Yeah, it's like it's in a really rubio Yeah, so it was like I like the fact that he's confident himself The trash talk Some technicals, but if you know the trash talking Popular in Chicago

[00:39:18] They'll love it. You know you sometimes you need that that personality that go along with your town Because everybody can shoot everybody can dribble everybody can everyone's fast Everyone's taller and can jump like what's that you apart?

[00:39:30] So I like that pick from I like the fact that he's home So and I think Chicago is gonna dump a lot of their older players I think they're gonna really lock into like you know what these good as gone

[00:39:44] It sounds like Vulture Chitches probably on the move Andre drum is not coming back the maraud de rose is gone Like what's the hardest probably gone. Yeah, I rather go third I rather go 25 and 57 What a bunch of young guys that are learning

[00:40:00] Then go 30 and 52 with some old guys that are looking to get paid in the offseason. It's like what am I paying for? I can go get some do some agility to give you this So I know well one of my I had two steals

[00:40:15] And like there's some other picks that I like as well, but the two that stood out to me Is my guy Devon Carter going to Sacramento? I didn't see that comment. I didn't think he would fall that low to number 13, but

[00:40:29] So when they made the pick you know, this is how fast the NBA moves When they made the pick last night my reaction was Hey, you know what there has been reports that Dearen Fox is sitting back waiting to see

[00:40:42] What the roster is going to look like and so that may Push his max and everything that he's eligible for So the end of the season while he sees how it plays out. So this could be the Dearen Fox replacement

[00:40:54] And then I woke up this morning they said hey, Davey on Mitchell has been traded. It's like oh okay So they just got a bigger Davey on Mitchell that can play offense you know San because he reminds me Carter he reminds me a lot of dirt white

[00:41:11] You know a little bit shorter out there, but he reminds me a lot of dirt white so even if Fox does decide to leave at some point You got your replacement if not You got something to improve your defense, but the problem with Sacramento still

[00:41:25] They small you know Dearen Fox is small You know Carter 63 and then you got Malik monk You know as your six man who's smaller than him So So you know the Vista like you're still small like you didn't really solve anything so while I like the player

[00:41:43] I don't necessarily know if I like the fit of Dearen Fox is still going to be there But I love you know, I know you go kill me for this one. I love Philadelphia getting dirt McCain another cryer

[00:41:53] You know because like I said I think he's the best shooter in the draft and the one thing that I feel Philadelphia has been missing for quite some time is dudes that can shoot

[00:42:06] You know the feeling early baffles me because it's like I think like I said we talked about the trust of process If you do on for all these years they look like Aviable team that should be successful every year they're on the floor like every year

[00:42:22] They look like they have an advantage over their opponent when they were running out Ben Simmons Jimmy Butler and Joel and B is like Think about 7 foot 6 11 and then Jimmy Butler I think he's between 65 and 68 depends on what metrics you read

[00:42:41] Just that tenacity like okay, this is the dynamic trio any distant pan out and they're okay cool You got to buy his hair has been Simmons and B you still have

[00:42:51] Size and Tobias Harris has got a stretch in the floor and then they had back on it like that bullbon I mean they had some it's like why you guys not more successful so like any player

[00:43:02] They go for me. I just I don't know if they are going to be as successful teams I don't know he might be a great player But I still see I don't see anything working in filly you know why is because when I look at filly

[00:43:17] I think they are a team that is built to be successful in Kobe's era versus this era You know and and I think like you know just the lack of shooting the lack of spacing You know they went out and got buddy heel that betrayed their line

[00:43:31] But then and beat was hurt so You know about it time to play off-same There were games where Nick nurse wasn't even playing buddy heel. You know That's another thing blows from my leg right buddy healed If people look at numbers he is on pace To break

[00:43:50] Steph's replay record well Initially when he first came into the league that was the comparison everybody thought that he or not everybody You know people I'm scouts thought that he had Steph potential now

[00:44:02] He doesn't have the handles obviously, but yeah, but like did run point guard college these mild these three points shooting milestones that Steph was hitting Buddy heel does hitting at it at a quicker clip so it was like if Steph Curry hit 403s in his first

[00:44:18] A2 games just this he's hit it there like 76 games Yeah, like oh And that's why for me if you're filly I feel like you Should Resign buddy healed you have McCain now you got shooting now

[00:44:35] You don't I mean if you can keep Kelly who read thing Kelly who read one of those guys I like the phrase glue guy because I'm like I said I don't think anything is run for him

[00:44:45] He just he has like just a basketball player you please he plays with chip on his shoulder And you need that you need you need that dog kind of guy like I think in the in that nicks Filly series

[00:45:00] He was the guy that was like coming up with the loose rebound was hitting the timely threes and just keep it keeping the game going Like and be he was hurt so like that he was a help the fender I just I just feel like it just

[00:45:11] They always have guys on their team. It just seems like it never jails It seems like the bottom falls out Every single second round of the playoffs and it just blows my mind that that is the case for a team that has a dude that was

[00:45:27] In the MVP conversation for three years he won it One year and it's like you look around and the team doesn't look anything that same as it was when they showed him a successful for years earlier Just weird you know I got to ask you right

[00:45:40] I'm listening what are your thoughts on the supernova nicks The game OG looks like 2012 over five years. I think I did that math is like 40. That's just one of them I Really this round of gotta go right

[00:46:06] Yeah, I think for chemistry reasons he probably gonna just lift right out like I saw a meme It was from growing ups and the scene when they were running the basketball play like Rob Schneider was Josh Hart

[00:46:19] And then Chris rock was usually ran so yeah all the fournova guys Chris rock was a little bit of a good football ball bounce off his head and it went to Adam Sand with who was jailing bruncene and knock down the three

[00:46:31] It's it kind of I think it's it could potentially have that kind of feel So where Julius Randall By all mech this is probably Think it I'm the man on this team Jane the bruncene kind of came through him crushed the buildings and now he has his dudes

[00:46:49] So it's like where does Julie's round even fit in he doesn't and and where do you move them to like who you know Because there's already been talking what there's already been talked that they're looking at potentially moving Metrol Robison

[00:47:02] Heart and Stein has been linked to okay C and I'm telling you right now if okay C gets heart and Stein I'm picking okay C and Boston in the finals next year. I'm already putting that out there

[00:47:13] But uh, but you know, but it's just one of those things like Julius Randall looking eggs like he I get that they don't shoot trees, but The difference between Dallas and Boston was that Dallas their bigs can't shoot at

[00:47:31] Right, they don't need to try to they didn't try to shoot and I get that might deter you But if Minnesota role players knocked down a few more trees in that Dallas series is way different

[00:47:44] If Anthony you know Anthony it was doesn't get pulled up the game when he's rotations Like let him leave after the Edwards on Kyrie for like 30 minutes You know like things like I just When they played Indiana what out there bigs talking about the mix

[00:48:04] TJ McConaughey was just hitting floaters in the lane He looked like a lottery pick because he was coming out of lane See I can was like what they shoot like 80 they was shooting like 80% in the first half

[00:48:16] Maybe a lot that might be what read Shepherd is up being well I mean if you have no bigs if you have no one defending a rim like you got to keep someone in the fin and run a rebound

[00:48:26] What it was got past the state so let's see if if Randall If Randall's your offensive guy Potentially if he's offensive minded And you think you got to move him But you also want to move the other two forwards or center how if you want to label them

[00:48:43] Then if you move Randall and both bays what are you getting in return? Audrey drumming like you're gonna get the white from child like Robin you don't want his probably too slow to play with this team exactly so yeah

[00:48:53] Yeah, but I do think that like you know as of the moment the next probably have a Top five-ish roster in the league you know to me will see what happens with Julius Randall

[00:49:03] I mean getting rid of Julius Randall and getting nothing in return probably bumps them up to like Number three from number four or something like that But you know say we'll see maybe call Cleveland and I may be Cleveland is is willing to take a

[00:49:18] You know okay they can step on shoot and shot on Cleveland they got my god Jail enticing you know out of cow you know I think Isaac a Coro is pretty much gone his days of done in Cleveland

[00:49:29] You needed to fill your small forward spot. I think he's you know he has Jail and Brown potential but You know not just because they went to cow But also I think that his offensive game is more polished than Jailans was coming out of cow

[00:49:44] Maybe he's not there on the defensive end the way that Jailan was but the offense Cow is a very strong academic school. I think it might be number one like as far as public universities United States as far as like academics

[00:49:56] So even I know players get like you know some leeway in that But not that much and a lot of it. Lot of those schools like Stanford schools like that they don't really give much leeway

[00:50:05] So if you have a smart player you can give them like real assignments to get understand how to you know use Advantage and edges and turns and These that nature but you know you got to be a smart guy a smart guy's only pretty humble guys are gonna

[00:50:18] To sound okay. This is my role. This is how I maximize this But yeah, I like I like most of the draft I obviously will talk about the leaders in the second round so I'll see their first round pick Now but a secondary conversation so yeah

[00:50:36] This and this will lead to more of my point later as we talk about Ronnie name a talk about an epitizm So Lakers at 17 draft it Dalton Connect You know D1 D2 guy transferred

[00:50:51] Then he got to Tennessee play one year Tennessee was like as you see play it a year So for the so on along yeah JJ Reddick we were talking about remember we were talking about evolution did JJ Reddick draft the evolution of himself I

[00:51:05] I would hope so like everyone's saying like go disguise on the board JJ Reddick your shooter you be and A minimum he needs to be able to coach that particular skill set I don't know if you can teach you the really

[00:51:18] I don't know if you can teach you the Vanderbilt, but you could teach you to a guy who

[00:51:22] Use that to get from where he was and D2 to the NBA draft so like I think you can you can bolster that guy skillset because he's already used it to make it as far

[00:51:34] But leads me to when we talk about Ronnie the first round on a draft was 30 picks one two three or five five trees some French guys and I turn on YouTube the French revolution is back shot on Napoleon Maria to an ad let me kick so

[00:52:01] I turn on YouTube because that's why I watch my little podcast and I don't watch on disputed Just I just can't really doesn't really like me like a used to but I clicked on it and they had all that

[00:52:13] I clicked your glasses back on but your glasses on there But they did a segment on the 17th overall pick and it was 22 minutes long So they had their opening segment on

[00:52:32] The guy who went 17 to the makers and the reason they did that is because there's one guy on the team they LeBron jakes he's been the polarizing asset to NBA social media podcast TV shows

[00:52:52] You name it good batter and different you love them. You hate them. He's on their hits the turn polarizing that means each end So you talked to me about Ronnie it was like well

[00:53:05] Broughty barked this on himself all the attention on his heat the brown part on the stuff and like that was gonna be there Anyway, no matter what because his dad is the most one of the most polarizing guys in sports

[00:53:16] Wrestling in the social media era you can't find another guy You can't even find a guy close to the tension that he seeks a Michael front And that he draws even when he's not seeking it to the point where

[00:53:32] Undisputed did a segment on the 17th pick they skipped the first 16 and they didn't talk about the other 11 11 12 picks. He talked about one guy who wasn't getting talked about in college basketball circles Because he only went the one division one school so people who are looking for shooters

[00:53:50] weren't talking about this guy but he goes into the makers that at whole second about him I could even watch I watched like 30 seconds and he said something about

[00:53:56] Okay, your Lakers blah blah blah blah like I can't watch this and I turned it off only know what they said about him But the fact that he had a whole segment set aside for it to open their show

[00:54:06] So Broughty was going to get that attention no matter what so him getting taken at 55 two years after his dad said I want to stay in the league to play with my son. I think that'd be a great thing for me

[00:54:17] him to be on the court at the same time. I think that's a dope idea We knew it was gonna happen so the fact that it happened there was like oh my god

[00:54:25] I can't believe they wasted a pick he's not even be ready who knows if he's in be ready Anthony Bennett would never want to overall was he in be ready? He wouldn't have won the world. He wasn't I don't know he was on the wrong team right

[00:54:39] Brown is all pie cats right now talk about He was the like him and jubarak is also what they was the best bus ever That's the claim to play like he went to the wrong team with the wrong cultures right one of them went to Jordan's team

[00:54:53] Yeah, exactly Jordan's the greatest he was Jordan's weapon boy is what he what you saw What Jordan did to Scott Morello on the last dance listen he could learn something and play better

[00:55:05] But he didn't so all of a sudden like we'll go back and forth so we talked about nepotism And we'll we'll have our little fast back and forth like I said The people who dislike the brony pit couldn't tell me the last five number one overall picks

[00:55:23] And you worried about the guy that went 55 just because his dad name is LeBron James We knew what was going happen. It was an apple. It was no way He was gonna be on a team and that team have a pick that late in the second round

[00:55:36] And they not take them it's not like a lot of 55 overall Plain league anyway If you were if you were another team that wasn't that range or whatever and You want it LeBron Jr Would you

[00:55:55] Colomand Brown in the net the man this girl name one call go up. You want school by brony calling brownie I'll call him You can fuse a swope. Oh, I said you're I'll call him that name when he start making his own decisions

[00:56:10] Oh, so now he make his own decision Now This is making on the scissors when you have that throwing the ball inside the backboard Jump now with that being said if you were a team in that range where he got drafted

[00:56:25] And you had him on your draft board as somebody that you that you were willing to draft The report comes out from woege Bob Myers talks about it on the draft that rich Paul says

[00:56:37] You know if y'all teams and you know y'all draft brony he's going all strill Do you still do you still draft LeBron? No, but that's the thing I said this own Monday If I If I don't want to deal with the circus

[00:56:53] That is the LeBron James factory, but I do Why? Because depending on who you depending on who you are because we talk about small markets Depending on who you are That gets you attention it gets you jersey sales it gets you Relevant see

[00:57:14] When jersey sales you go a selfish or is he anyway Think about it I'm selling a jersey we have seen this before in a different sport Guys name was Tim Tibo We all knew that wind up that he had was not successful

[00:57:34] He completed 48% of his passes in the NFL He just won some games and it was a circus His coach got fired up that he got caught cheating I don't think he still wanted a game to go fired again

[00:57:48] But we all see what happens with the melee then he gets brought in by urban buyer to play Titan and Jacksonville Which is a perfectly logical thing for

[00:58:00] Urban buyer to want to do I thought it'd been better to bring him on the coaching staff because he was older But he's like hey if this guy came in and said he wanted shot. I'm like what position do we keep starting a road at daddy

[00:58:12] Were full out like it's not got to I didn't bring him in the compete to be the starting quarterback in Jacksonville over Trevor Lawrence I brought him like cool. Can you be a special teams? Third what Titan and once they realized he wasn't black anyway

[00:58:26] You can do it you got to go But all the attention that came with that for player that isn't going to You're gonna get a lot of attention for hiring JJ rhetoric as a leakers coach

[00:58:37] But that might result in some ways he has an opportunity to make an impact on winning When Kevin Durant went to go to state he got a lot of attention for people upset about it

[00:58:47] But he has yet the opportunity to to to acquired the naysayers with his ability to play Tim Teebow was going to be back ups and fullbacks and third and fourth quarterback It was nothing is gonna be able to do people are just gonna clamor for him

[00:59:02] It's like yeah, what am I gonna do because he played in the wingland one year? I'm a bitch time ready to put in Tim Teebow. No So if I'm a team and I don't want to deal with that

[00:59:13] I'm not chicken brunny if I don't plan on playing him if I don't think he was NBA ready I'm not gonna draft them because this plenty of guys in the league that probably

[00:59:25] Would lose their spot to him if they had to compete if like my son's wrestled in middle school and high school If you wanted to spot you had a wrestle off

[00:59:34] You go to the coach you go to the dude that has like you want to wrestle at 160 the suit has a spot at 160 You're I got to meet this weekend. It's Monday after practice

[00:59:43] We won't know when to wrestle off. I want that spot because I want to compete Saturday If you beat me that the spot and you got to compete on that Saturday

[00:59:50] I think brunny could go ahead to head with some guys that are on rosters and take their spots in that kind of one-on-one Drills whatever the case may be so I think he does have some kind of NBA telling is he going to be your starting point guard?

[01:00:05] Probably not no So what's wrong with drafting him and maybe potentially getting them one or four together or maybe He just he just I don't think he's getting better. Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with that because as I sit around America

[01:00:21] I see you know everybody talking about DI and all this kind of stuff I see all these dudes in a V-L-E-L-E-D Yeah, direct is left and right But I can't even

[01:00:30] What about I see somebody's bricks going to these Ivy League schools that ain't going there for no other reason than their granddaddy name on the school legacy or their legacy Yeah, they're legacy You know so It's not even

[01:00:42] You know we talked about it's literally a path. It's like a percentage of like we talked about Hey, we had eight spots for legacy kids and we talked about Depotism is just how the Lakers role in general 100 So that's right

[01:00:56] The Rambus mix basketball decisions for the LA Lakers you know and you know who's the owner Jerry buses daughter He's with the head coach who got the logo the logo Band from staples now known as crypto aka

[01:01:13] After he gave them Paul Gassal and two NBA championships because as he gave them Paul Gassal For Kwame Brown and Mark Gassal that that was a trade that got Paul Gassal to Appreciate it

[01:01:27] Right back at you David again. That's what's a trade that got Paul Gassal and Colby his last two reads give him more rings and shake so But this is the problem. This is my problem though I don't have a problem with any of that

[01:01:40] Nepotism is what America has ran off of since his existence Yeah, I have no problem but as a wise man once told me It's no fun when the rabbit got the gun You know saying nobody had a problem with nepotism Until it'd been a fit it LeBron Jr

[01:01:58] You know to me but with that being said My issue with it wasn't that he got drafted Because I think that eventually he'll be a serviceable player like I compared them to avery Bradley avery Bradley had a

[01:02:11] NBA career he's an NBA champion so you know so I'm not gonna act like You know he can't play at all like I mean granted the dude Hope he's all right. He had the cardiac arrest episode last year

[01:02:23] He came to USC only average four and a half points me and you had a off camera debate for about a hour About how he took a picture All the people who don't who are upset that even got drafted probably didn't even know his stats

[01:02:37] They just upset because his last name and first name go along with his other guy Yes, so my problem was with richy rich

[01:02:46] You know that's my problem with was with not even because so look he's the agent his job is to look out for his client's best interest The client says this is what I want this is what I desire rich polls job is to make it happen

[01:03:01] I understand that you don't say what I don't like is if you draft him He's going to all Australia as a as a now if you were to say

[01:03:12] If you don't draft him he's not reporting the camp something like that. I don't know whatever, but I would tell rich Paul like you know what I got his rights so you can tell LeBron senior and

[01:03:25] His executive team to call my people to set up a meeting and we can talk about compensation to get LeBron Jr to LA You'll say or LeBron Jr can go play at my g League affiliate He can go to Australia he can go wherever he want to go

[01:03:44] But his ass ain't leaving my team until I get something for him Problem with that is you know clutches in the building You know saying now clutch has the ability to say you know what we have these top players in the league in our client

[01:04:01] Tell and guess what none of them are going to come play for you But the pinnacle who I am The pinnacle who I am the pinnacle who I am Because you know we talk about small market all this kind of stuff like that depending on who I am

[01:04:20] Especially if I'm somebody petty like a dang Gilbert depending on who I am clutch wasn't going to sign with me anyway So if I value LeBron Jr as a basketball player as a prospect As a dude that I think could eventually you know contribute to my team

[01:04:39] Did you know what dog we just going to have to battle this out and he going to have to go to all Australia Well, that would be stupid Because you know why if you want to players all the time that go to Europe and never come back

[01:04:52] Yeah, but once again You know what you get yourself involved with if you're not like I said on Monday if you're not gonna plan Don't even get involved because this small market big Not like him it's in run it away

[01:05:07] It doesn't matter to size your market the owner split the TV revenue so I'm out of what it is If this 30 it's 30 teams in the NBA if the The revenue division is 30 billion dollars each one of them gets a billion you think they care about being on TV

[01:05:23] No because they're going to get a billion evenly split between all the things It ain't they not playing at him that's it. It's a football Yeah, but if what why associate you're not gonna you're not gonna get a bigger bit What if I really want to

[01:05:40] You didn't get him if you really want them this what I'm saying But if you really didn't want them don't don't get involved like I said If you're going to get him in plan you want to give him a real shot You know second round picks don't get

[01:05:54] Opportunity they basically get a bunch of 10 date contracts essentially right They get re-up like college scholarships is like they don't have guarantees So why would you hook yourself to a guy who you know was gonna be

[01:06:08] Connected to one of the top ages in the league where you're not gonna be in position to offer him the deal that's worth he's like Even even with this health. I don't know what what the health is other than the scared that they had last year

[01:06:22] For this I mean he played a whole policy you played old policy using it was very medically I know it unfortunately Really it happens for a lot of young athletes across America, but just a medical part of side

[01:06:35] Just the logistics of your team a handling a team and in inviting and This this conversation is me that you know it's like It's like this I'll add it to let we talk about a The sky was telling me a head of guy who

[01:06:51] He had the reg for his hair right Print it out in his book bag and I pull him to the side. I was like yeah, your hair looks a little yet It was like twisted a little bit and he was like nice legal

[01:07:01] I was like you sure I'm not my retired guy They said not as legal is good and he was like I'm like I don't think so he pulled the reg out of his book bag I'm like cool Let's go with that Your hair isn't rigs

[01:07:13] But the fact that you printed out in the highlighted the paragraph that highlights why you're here that is border line Is in regs is proof that you knew it was going to track negative attention

[01:07:24] So it's like if you want to go play basketball somewhere, but you got to pack your gum before you go You know it might be some good basketball there

[01:07:33] But you know if you got to take a gum with you it might not be the best place to go you can go you can make that decision But you know if you got to put these roadblocks

[01:07:42] Oh like make these these notes ahead of time like it's gonna track a lot of tension We might have issue with clutch we might have just conversation where we're just every time after the post game

[01:07:53] Conference from practice anything else my coach is gonna have to answer questions about brony James Who might not be ready to play in Every single time your coach is sitting by microphone or the owners by microphone He's gonna have to deal with the question. I'm like

[01:08:09] Clutch sports put out important to set this what are you guys going to do about brony James when is he gonna get to see the floor? Is it gonna get the wear 23 like is that and you're just gonna deal with this for a player that won't play

[01:08:20] It's the 10-teamal thing if you're not gonna put him in a position where you can play and and kind of Muffles some of some of the noise then why even get involved at all why take you gun to the park Just to play basketball

[01:08:35] Just go somewhere else and and I know to all the nasaers out there. This is something that normally happens You know Chris Livingston a couple of years ago from the university of Kentucky

[01:08:45] Wanted to play for the Milwaukee books and I want to say this was rich Paul as well Where he told the teams around them Hey don't draft my guy. He wants to go to Milwaukee You know, and you know he went to Milwaukee

[01:09:00] You know, he's been into G-League when he went to Milwaukee Austin Reeves was like hey, you know second round draft pick I want to play for the lakers. I'm gonna go I want to go and draft it

[01:09:11] So that I can make my decision on where I want to go. I don't have a problem with that you know Eli Manning You know to be you know we went through that whole thing you know he didn't say

[01:09:20] I don't want to play for no other team than the New York Giants or I'm going to the CFL He just said I don't want to play for LA. I don't got a problem with that I don't got a problem with a

[01:09:34] Sard you know that the wizard's drafted last night. I don't have a problem with that He said I don't want to work out for Atlanta. Okay, he didn't say yo I don't want to work out for anybody but Washington or I'm going back to

[01:09:48] Okay, I'm going to wherever you're right He just did it a couple of months ago and he's like listen 32 teams don't have opted to draft me so why am I gonna get them all my medical names Literally said I will go to another country

[01:10:02] Well that is what's being reported Right right right right I don't want to add it to see the tweet. I didn't see the text message Like I said we know how to telephone games work one thing is said one person and then all of a sudden

[01:10:13] It's a totally different story about a time to get so on TV So we all know how that works but With that being said it's only a few times in your life professionally

[01:10:22] We you have the leverage to say I'm not doing this Eli Manning had the leverage out of old miss I don't get me that one over opaque I don't want to go to the organization because that's what dreams go to die

[01:10:31] Philip Rivers survive there, but we saw the difference between Philip Rivers and how many years he had Real set of rivers got a empty hand too Like I said like we've seen it different between like what life was like in New York or New Jersey for Eli versus

[01:10:50] out in San Diego for Philip Rivers so you have to use your leverage the leverage that Brony James has is his that is the brown James his dad's Agent started that agency and they're fighting it out amongst a bunch of other sharks in the water

[01:11:10] That all smell blood, deros of house, Scott Boris all the guys that you know we've all seen sitting next to Celebrity shaking hands the colloparies of the world who are connecting them the other agents who are also power agents power moves

[01:11:25] Get these guys in the same course getting the same shoe deals Everybody has their way in rich Paul Brony James clutch they're just coming through a crushing the building they're breaking them old and the problem that I have is people who will clamor that we need more black

[01:11:41] Well, we need more black leaders. We need more black men to position to make To make these decisions and yet we have one and we have another using his connections with another guy To bolster everybody's career, but yet you're unhappy with it because you want happy with it

[01:11:57] It is Listen that get it You know You don't floppy way to 10,000 rebounds. You know floppy way to 10 You got to respect the fact that this man got his self into the league got his boys into Spring Hill like they're making movies they're running agencies

[01:12:18] He's trying in his group of friends that he went to high school with a potential billionaires His son is connected to generational wealth We can't remember for all the time But yet we get black men on the internet talking shit about a 19-year-old kid

[01:12:32] It talking shit about this grown black man that took his friends from the neighborhood He met rich Paul selling jerseys out of his car. I like your hustle this man is now Daytona Dell sitting course high in labor game Then other black men it's a two

[01:12:49] Anthony Davis has a $200 million net with that's my pop-up connection to rich Paul and clutch So all you people up there saying you pro black and pro this be fucking pro black then don't be halfway black because LeBron James of all brief pro black You're saying

[01:13:09] A lot of what you're saying right now is how I felt about Levar ball You know where you don't live our ball He was like no, I mean, I don't look Nike. I don't want re-bock

[01:13:19] I don't want to de-dust like you know what I mean it's the same way that people say how come people like Floyd may weather Don't don't make to this or start this or people like Jay Z Don't do this or like whatever

[01:13:32] When they do this is what we do You don't say so I get it like you know what I mean like I do agree that 85% The negatives of this that a lot of this draws is because

[01:13:46] LeBron James senior 95. I do agree with that you know to mean I think the other problem in that is It goes back to what I always say the media, right? You know to me the way that they report on things the things that they report on

[01:14:03] They report it rich Paul did this they report you know Allegedly did this they report it that he said this but we don't always hear

[01:14:12] The stories of the rose and houses and the boruses and the people like that you might get the big stories like Eli or whatever But it happens in every draft whether this is the NBA whether it's the NFL

[01:14:24] Maybe even MLB this stuff happens in every draft, but it goes right, but those other people don't get What it is Well, it's definitely The polarizing black athlete moves the needle for sports and the special is negative because they know

[01:14:42] Black fans will attach on to an end attack on because For whatever reason crabs in the barrel whatever you want to call it and then rock same senior is it one that will get the computer's Putin

[01:14:53] Yeah, and they're gonna talk about this for weeks. They're gonna have all these different reports And I was gonna put that name on it. It's gonna be a lot of anonymous executives not a miscores not a misstat because you know why

[01:15:03] Because they know if they stuff out of bounds with the guys who's literally gonna put himself to be one of the most powerful people in the NBA They don't like it. They don't like the fact that Adam Silver has to cover to

[01:15:15] LeBron James because when they were gonna play in the playoffs Chris Paul Come out of Anthony the wing way and LeBron James called Obama at midnight and Obama got them to play in the bubble Obama got the playoffs back on Adam Silver couldn't do shit

[01:15:29] I'm not saying it's a racist thing, but we understand that a lot of the major companies and leagues and Commissioners or all Jewish guys they're all connected a lot of the banking systems

[01:15:38] Start all when I say that you tell me how much get us canceled to do you know Just keep it a being let's keep it a being Just keeping a book like let's just keep it real like Larry David one of the most successful writers

[01:15:50] Jewish guy Jerry signfield Jewish guys guys the first people making $1 million in episode Lot of them you know, sorry David we're going back on the show Like yo

[01:16:01] You're getting a nigger in the tree went back on TV so like let's let's keep a real I like right it's not a knock it's some realization Look if you line up all the major heads of media out Mark Zuckerberg

[01:16:12] Elon Musk like come on man all these like all these dudes that interconnected so We have a guy at his level LeBron James that he wanted to own a team and they yes that's his goal He needs to do things but people in place do that

[01:16:24] We can't keep talking about ever's bring up our own her LeBron James future owner or future governors what they call it now. Yeah, so like it's

[01:16:35] Everybody is is is getting their cut we're talking about sports two times a week to two or three hours each and all of our conversation The middle and we hope to make a career out of the access that we have from all these stories

[01:16:48] It's part of the fabric of what we do So I think people just tearing it down or tearing him down a tear in his family now when I look at my go Look what this look what this man is doing look at the blueprint

[01:16:59] Every young NBA player that got a contract of 30 and 40 million dollars could look at what he did like what's up But one of your voice through culinary school Finish let one of your guys get through get his manager get in an NBA start it, you know start this

[01:17:13] Get a lawyer get a real lawyer gets you know somebody to go to law school and take care And like keep your your people in the house that way you branch out that way you guys like Jay-Z

[01:17:23] You meet you meet the you know robber crap robber craft was influential and getting Mill out of jail, but the only reason he got the meat mills because the conversation the connected between Jay-Z and his other guy

[01:17:34] So I'm not saying like we have to be separate but at some point you have to recognize that there is a Some other company So when you have a guy in position stop trying to tear him down. We keep tearing down

[01:17:47] Black celebrities granted if his warranted is warranted But we're sitting on the brawn for how you place when he plays better than anybody you've seen

[01:17:57] Like let's keep in a being like he has numbers and a link that no one else can touch and no one will touch but it's like oh He flops That's what you got Okay, right

[01:18:10] Well, you know what well, you know, this is one of those things where you know a course That's why the title of that episode is Have a year's the crown

[01:18:20] You know just like just like just like what I said the other day right you know to me like is this the NBA or the NBA LeBron Yeah, you know I know I Realism I'm just keeping up for like

[01:18:36] This is 10 these are tangible actual things that are going on. It's like I don't understand no, but what I'm saying is But what I'm saying is like the media causes a lot of the

[01:18:46] Devices of this right and the problem that I have is that eight out of every 10 people that I talk to You know say it doesn't matter if we're talking about politics It doesn't matter if we're talking about race relations It doesn't matter if we're talking about life

[01:19:01] They say Well, the media is dividing us and blah blah blah blah blah and that is absolutely true But what I say to them is Why you let them so so you don't admit like if you can recognize it

[01:19:14] They're why you still fall in for the Okidook so now I get it right? I'm not on the bronze James senior fan You know he's not my guy. He's not my goat all that stuff like that

[01:19:25] But I respect you know the hell out of the guy from where he came from a lot of the things that he did a lot of the things that he put in place People like rich Paul

[01:19:33] You don't know me like but sometimes people like rich Paul is just a cutthroat business What he's doing is very cutthroat to get to his clients best interest You know and what and what needs to be recognized in that situation is that I can disagree with your methods

[01:19:51] But still respect your hustle Respect your dedication and determination to get the desired result I can Expect you I know what I'm getting. I know that I'm getting someone that's gonna Go to the earth's end to get his client what he wants

[01:20:09] You know to me now yeah the problem is is that I need the media The same way that they report an or rich in LeBron You know saying we need these stories from these other ages that are doing this The new age

[01:20:25] Get it all the red moves needle no those ages represent the people on the SP and they have ages two I know that's why that's why I would Steven Ash got hired people like Steven A

[01:20:39] Went off about you know there's black coaches out here as if we didn't see dirt fish or Jason kid You know someone so forth get these job mart Jackson get these jaws with no experience but then JJ Reddit gets hired and it's not at it's like yo

[01:20:53] You know we're so excited for JJ and you don't be like So if if if I'm that I think was one of the names of agencies like TMA CAA one of these agencies so if JJ Reddick and Seem they Smith their ages working the same agency

[01:21:14] He can't shit on the JJ move because he's shit on his own agency It's this guy's a button paid for the only time they speak out against anyone

[01:21:23] If it doesn't affect their money that's why guys are so that's why people actually filter on TV because if I say anything It's gonna affect my money if you've got enough to live on like if you if you already made a 30-40 million dollars talking about sports

[01:21:38] You still up here like a dance and monkey like cut it out like Speak the truth because he been there is a spot on Fox News for you It's like I go say like these everyone is interconnected Clutch sports eventually you're probably be in that rarefire air where

[01:21:55] We might not recognize them from the beginning like that that that hustle that rich Paul was that the story that we He told it it might not rest it might not be the same

[01:22:04] They might get so big that it's like hey there just like CA now and now you can't say anything about Anyone because there's four agencies that have all of the All the journalists on TV and all the like I think one thing

[01:22:17] Like this clutch paying Nick right or something is clutch was clutch playing I saw something Nick right was a clutch agent I don't know I never heard them say that so I don't want to say that No, no, I was just making a joke when I said no

[01:22:32] I saw something like they were talking about there's like a known clutch agent in the media Trying to put air down drove me to talk about the whole Steve thing what that's why I was Was waiting like we're long time

[01:22:42] Was kids with Perkins like clutch guy at one point and now he's not like you know to me like the Shannon Sharper clutch guy I don't know

[01:22:50] It's it wouldn't surprise you because they all they need representation and if you and if you were in this guy's in a circle like I get it It could be It could be frowned upon but it's not like it's not the norm All right and

[01:23:06] For people to just kind of just shift their their Anx towards broadies like you Just do just want to play basketball Yes, he's in a very fortunate situation with the father who's a billion air and he's Planned for our child absolutely absolutely

[01:23:25] Once this podcast gets big and we get all these corporate documents and we got these trust and everything else You best believe my four kids and my grandk it will be listed on there so if something goes wrong Our five-year-old is six-year-old already been practicing

[01:23:39] There you got that show set up they're gonna just play with dolls and comb hair Yeah That's the way it's getting worse Well, you know, so like but that's the thing like if if keep it keep it in the book

[01:23:51] If I was able if we were able to launch this and that we have a platform and my son wants to play games On twitch and streaming on our network then I'm doing that

[01:24:01] Even if there's another kid in his neighborhood that can play games with him. I don't care He don't share my DNA. Yeah I'm gonna put your chocolate to lab down the road. Yeah, yeah we go hook you up like you do you think and you keep building

[01:24:14] We keep building and we come together with see from there, but like we could talk about nepotism to We're doing the face but it's a lot of people like robbing crab hired a GM that they went like

[01:24:23] Let me fix it as pass it. I like to grab his his son his son made all the pics and while the GM that they hired Jerry Jones Stephen Jones luckily Stephen Jones stopped him from drafting Johnny Menzel, but You know that's the case, but yeah

[01:24:37] So you know, so yeah, this is nothing new for the makers. This is nothing new for America But you know, but you heard it here first You know, Sam's force reports his order is not I repeat not paid for and

[01:24:53] You better not bring feelings to a fact fight don't do it You know, Sam, so we are out of here We will be back on Monday You know, Sam you know Sam my day happened to be my first day of work as well But uh

[01:25:09] Thank you thank you thank you, but you know I just got that job You know, Sam, so it is what it is But you know that me will be back like share review subscribe

[01:25:20] You don't stand right on wait say nothing wrong about no Jewish people all we said was They got some power You know, Sam it is what it is Trying to do it. I'm trying to do it. I have lunch for one You know, Sam love you on me

[01:25:35] La Bro James senior Got some power and you know what one day Sports reports is order is gonna have power good night grab our we love you, America see you with a few days Peace