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[00:00:02] Might Check 1-2-1-2 Sports Reports As Ordered and the Building You're... Yes, I don't want it only But Jake and Brad do jersey-wrap it For some reason still wearing the black and red that you can't call them unloved I'm loyal baby See it, don't want it only

[00:00:29] That's a lot of You're And I promise you, I've been trying to work on something and I ain't throwing up gang signs But yo It's me Too far Like when I did get make-up Yeah, you know what I was thinking about that the other night

[00:00:48] I did that on the hot box and I was like Oh, snap, I thought it'd pop ruined that an Emma You know what I said? But yo Tonight Okay, where you had wrong a certain neighborhood I did it, I know We're gonna talk to you about

[00:01:03] The Michigan Warba Rays Walking up to the Washington Huskings Straight out of state property Get down on lay down and if you lay down you're gonna stay down We're gonna take that early look at the NFL playoffs No predictions tonight But just some overall sorts about the games

[00:01:26] Just overall thoughts about the games That matchup, what we see, what we like There we go, talk about some rumors It's been a long time since I participated in some gossip But there's some NBA trade rumors out there that's a praise that we want to see

[00:01:44] But it just wouldn't be sports reports as ordered If we didn't start it off with get it off my chest You wanna go first? Yeah, you said you was gonna go first

[00:01:56] I'm gonna go first, I'm gonna go ahead and say this for a good when I come on man Can you stop? Can we just appreciate the brun as a basketball player? What I mean? So I forgot it with it

[00:02:07] James Worthy literally said that the fast break don't pay the head on Paul George was a dunk of the century Like come on man, like I get it I admire it like his greatness

[00:02:20] If you just think about the math, think about the first NBA game he was on And the digital and how pixelated it look versus now like you just see everything

[00:02:29] Is this like just that growth and then the time you put in the league and is ten and they Be NBA finals and the conference finals and just what he's done on the court all time points leader point score Next sport You don't need this extra stuff

[00:02:47] Right like we don't need this dunk at a century stuff Because that's how I go to sports groups and I can't even have conversations because people are just like I saw post today Of brunny James stats Versus Marcus Jordan's college basketball stats

[00:03:06] Like this is how far it's gone and it's because Just this dramatic pendulum swing just cut it out Just let it go man like Appreciate it appreciate what's going on appreciate the the moments But like we don't have to do all this other stuff On necessary

[00:03:30] This unnecessary is like I know in the background you can see like I got the highlights from the NBA season plan And they get the N season tournament

[00:03:38] Just look at it like yo that's a dope thing that a team went out perform and once some games and they want his tournament Don't try to use it like all it's not a championship Jordan with six you know Kobe would have done this co-

[00:03:52] Like just be like yeah, that's dope They worked hard Christian bloodbud is my my house with that money Like I mean we don't always have to turn into this This endless Unsufficiency at the beat

[00:04:07] Nor do we have to make every simple thing that somebody does seem like the greatest thing in the history of the Whatever league or Environmental workforce at the end so just like Commit down

[00:04:23] That's all I ask just collectively if you don't like it cool calm down if you love them cool calm it down

[00:04:31] Let's bounce out I'm getting sick of them just I'm getting sick of it back and forth one do literally posted a dude's criminal record in one of my sports group To try to dismantle his credibility as the purge of guitar sports

[00:04:47] This is a real thing that's happened to me when I was looking like you they posted the man's mugshot and the rap sheet Yo I'm not making this up dog like I'm a good story teller, but I tell the truth he literally posted this man's Rapshee

[00:05:10] It's gone too far Cut it out y'all got to stop You gotta stop please just cut it out Everybody's the other day I shared something in our sports group But I shared it just because it was funny and I wanted to bring a point to

[00:05:28] So his son going get it to and it was a post where they were talking about USC talking about bully buggy elicis stats They were talking about collier stats and then it said brony James great team player

[00:05:43] It was like it needed to be in the state at all right. It's just like oh he go get it to huh, like you know what I mean

[00:05:49] I don't know if the person that did that I don't know if they were being negative and just trying to shit on brownie or if they were just trying to include them or what just trying to include them because if you don't talk you see basketball

[00:05:59] It's based on how the current media field builds is like I got to talk about these people. I got to talk about these polar eyes and figure first is like

[00:06:11] I'm just talking I'm making a point about who's scoring the most points and who's contributing the most on the USC basketball team If it's those two guys if they are the the beacons and the light that the team rallies around and that's the conversation

[00:06:27] Well, there was even a thing coming out talking about the Miami heat are looking into brony James Why what are we talking about right 100 division one basketball teams And division there are 365 division one basketball basketball team Then you got to G. Lee is like

[00:06:49] They'll pick the guy I worked for them right and who's going to lead to report in January I'm looking at this freshman from USC like how Yeah, that's average in like four points or something like that. I think it's eight I think it's eight but

[00:07:05] It's great name great basketball. I could tell he's probably really is a winner in a team play You don't have a great name I wish somebody will call me brony I know He didn't want to trade on the name of the brony James It's just a stupid name

[00:07:24] Brony is a man What do you like paper towels and some shit? So you know obviously in the intro I brought up state property so you know movies were all my mind

[00:07:35] So when it comes to mind get off get it off my chest. There was movies scene that came to mind So you saw scary movie right Yeah, so it was a scene where the guy was on the roof about the jump off

[00:07:49] And you know he's like I'm going to do it and Anna Ferris is down on the ground just what they've been talking to him But she's just been in a round like just doing And then of course he's like what do it? It did jump off the roof

[00:08:05] So I say that to say I saw Dreyman Green come out and say that Adam Silver talked about a retirement just doing already Go home Dreyman we know that you want to be a potcaster

[00:08:19] We know that you want to be on TNT we know that you have drinks outside of basketball There is nothing wrong with that But put your foot all the way out don't do to Ben Robbins burger thing where it's like oh, I don't feel good

[00:08:35] I don't know I might want to I don't know I think I'm thinking about retirement you're already there And guess what do splash the empire is over The warriors are not winning a championship this season It's fun man we both retired to start our own podcast was like

[00:09:01] That's like this point They're going to be lucky to make the play in you know so look on a serious note Dreyman You are or were at one point in time the heart and soul of that team they don't win those championships without you

[00:09:19] You know like I know stuff at all the points. I know we had game six clay But it was your presence that allow stuff to freelance on offense It was your play that kept the other teams best player and check at times

[00:09:37] You know like I watched you erase your catch out of a series once so I will never take anything away from you I will never ever try to say that you aren't a focal point of that championship run You're catalyst. Yeah, absolutely

[00:09:51] Go home, you don't say Adam silver shame on you for talking Dreyman out of retirement We're tired of Dreyman with dumb and Dreyman even we had people like Dennis Robme back in the day who did these kind of things

[00:10:05] But they knew they knew how to get in and out and they knew when to be a weasel and when to play right They knew how to turn it on Dreyman doesn't know Dreyman reminds me of the little kid that you let cuss one time because it's cute

[00:10:21] Your kid says oh shit and you think it's cute they keep saying it over and over and then when you out at the supermarket They say something crazy and everybody looking at you like was going on in that household But the family karaoke and they get the microphone

[00:10:37] Yeah, like maybe Dreyman has come to a point in his life because he went to counseling so maybe he's maybe he realized something and counseling Maybe he's not happy in basketball anymore

[00:10:48] You know nothing to do with being a podcast or an all that other stuff that I mentioned but maybe the passion isn't there no more Maybe the fact that the warriors aren't good

[00:10:57] That's what it is and there a bunch of problems same inside time. It's been the same Yeah, they're a bunch of things right now now when he was an asshole in 2017 it was all good because they were 24 and five Right, you know, but we are You know

[00:11:17] 17 and 19 so probably when he got suspended so five six games ago or even of his tingling they were helping around five hundred anyways So it's like those antics now look like distractions Yeah, like tired and tired we kill catches

[00:11:33] If my meat or just hypothetically you catches this second deep route and he kept any does a backflip into the end zone and they go up 14 zero All for that play is not the same as if they're down

[00:11:48] 48 14 and he catches it does a backflip. You look silly right same actions same activity same person same personality except that being down For possessions You do the back flip

[00:12:03] It looks like you'd be in an asshole will he was doing the same thing when they were 19 games above five hundred when they were on the way to 73 and I when they were 16 15 back in a day when they were going to be found he's never changed

[00:12:18] Right, just this is the first time he full on flailed and slept. She has somebody in a neck But other than that he was doing all the same stuff It's just a real wonder if people in the nuts door to just taking people to nuts

[00:12:30] He was pushing people he was arguing with the rest he was causing problems You're thinking be happy you know he got another nut puncher on his team now Oh, CP3. Yeah, please out again

[00:12:43] You know he's out with a broken hand like least we know that all nuts are safe now You know, she used to back him. Yeah get that off my chest you know, but yo last night down in eight town Michigan

[00:13:03] Walked up they put their dick on the table and said what you're going to do about this we know gonna get my entire talk like that What you're going to do about this and wash it had no answers I don't think there was ever any danger

[00:13:21] I know wash it cut it down the seven right before the half but there was no danger of one night That's it all what you're taking please. It was like your little brother trying to fight you

[00:13:32] You get the box and gloves you go on front you're going to backyard You got you know, you got your little cousin or something. Yeah, he might catch you once a twice But she know for the most part that I'm gonna just slide

[00:13:44] Jad him a jab him jab him jab him to frustration and I'm gonna hit him with a look and upper cut and it's going to be over That's what that half that pre half time score was I think a hardball knew it

[00:13:54] I think he was probably contemplating going forward again on that fourth time a free exit funny But it was like what's the point? It's just going to come back down at the game when they when the camera paned in and it's the energy stadium

[00:14:09] I thought like that's what a falcons lost the super cool. So I'll see you about that when the game so I was like dead tire yourself So I was kind of in and out

[00:14:20] So I was watching the game and what I noticed it just was that Michigan just play like bully ball Not like watching play soft or played passive it just was They knew it's like the anti-water thing like they knew like if I catch you with this right hand

[00:14:39] It's lights out and I think their right hand was that physicality up front So once I saw the guy just basically running 40 art touchdowns. I was like this is not to be the game that I was kind of glad I was sleepy

[00:14:51] Because I made it to have time and then I dosed off I woke up in like the third and then I woke up like later in the fourth

[00:15:00] And I was like so I'm like I'm supposed to the game and I apologize that audience for not having a lot of insight But I just knew

[00:15:08] That it wasn't good. It I just knew that that match up front with a game because like panics is like I watched him but he doesn't get sat But he normally doesn't get sat and it doesn't get rattle right last night. He wasn't getting sat

[00:15:22] But he was rattle a lot of throws behind a lot of throws he would normally make it was like He knew he had a Half second less right on the even on his slide because most court backs no I'm sliding because the pockets collapse

[00:15:37] I'm sliding because I get in pressure. I'm sliding because I got to avoid something But even with that sometimes a slide and still know I just bought myself a whole second to get this guy open

[00:15:49] He was sliding like I don't have that time so he was sliding and throwing because Michigan just was winning the battle of front I don't know this is an indictment on like who they should let into playoff. Oh, no, I'm pretty sure that conversation is gonna come about

[00:16:04] But why got something to say about that? It's a matter of like I think Jim Harba if it shouldn't surprise anybody When Jim Harba was that Stanford at the US and then he went to San Francisco and took Mike single-terry team all into the Super Bowl

[00:16:24] He did it with physicality call the captain people might not like him, but if you think about he was like he kind of had it's like six five to twenty five to thirty Right, he's a physical specimen so it was like you had guys like burning Davis

[00:16:39] They had stately who used to be a tight-end and college. He was all fits of tackle They just they were coming they ran off three tight-ends. They were a very physical team. I think he took that same format to Michigan So it didn't surprise me that

[00:16:55] They won the way they did what would surprise me if he doesn't if we don't hear a report About an NFL team because right now there's three openings and price some some guys and she's more open

[00:17:08] He's don't forget Carlana's open the charges are open the Raiders are open So that's six so call this next so three new fires and then three previous fires, right

[00:17:18] I wouldn't be surprised if there's a report that says this team offered Jim Harba five years 18 million of five years five years 100 million total of five years 96 million or something like that

[00:17:32] Yeah, so I got stuck to the say about what you said you know to say because I'm sick of people I'm sick of these college football fans trying to ruin the game that I love you know talking about

[00:17:42] See Washington didn't belong there. Then Washington or did watch did not beat Texas last week Climber long then that's the same Texas that beat Alabama and here's another secret for you 33 to 18 That was George over Alabama 44 to 16 that was clips it over Alabama 42 to 25

[00:18:03] There was another national title game score You know to me so get out of here like this is what happens throughout the course of the college football play off not including last night Which Michigan won by 21 the average margin of victory is 20.4 points

[00:18:18] This is what happens in the college football play the net that can pedal in the games That's why that's why the semiafella game just so good right now back to now back to the task here

[00:18:28] You know J. J. McCarthy 27 and one is a star only needed 140 yards passing to win this game because The argument Edward and Blake Carms said sit back we got this now This was what stood out to me because you know I like to look at the stats

[00:18:43] So this is what stood out to me. Cause here. All right, Roma dudes a Jailant million million and Jailant pork I like Jailant pork the best even though Roma dudes days the best one 30 targets last night between the three of them

[00:19:02] 14 catches that's not a good rate 14 catches. It's like 48 percent 40 Yeah, so so that was what stood out to me was because that was the question you know can't Michigan secondary hold up

[00:19:17] You know and we have Johnson said yes Mike Holder. I got look at my paper. So I say right Mike same or still you know said Yeah, oh, yeah, but Brian is cool, but you know he said yes James at a minimum like I can

[00:19:35] I could get that locked in Yeah, Michelle. Like I don't know so so the other thing that stood out to me we talked about this last week when we picked the game So and one of the things that I said was

[00:19:49] Trenches if watch to get hold up in the trenches They give themselves a chance to win Michigan had 174 Russian yards in the first quarter For the game my guy had a hundred on two carries for the game For the game Michigan had 300 three rushing yards

[00:20:10] Washington had 300 one total yards and then everybody wants to go crazy for first round draft pick quarterbacks Well every single big time championship game or big time play out game or SEC championship game or conference championship game Every single time

[00:20:34] The team that dominates the run stats wins, but yet every single year

[00:20:40] We want to put JJ McCarthy's your fifth rated quarterback and put him in in the first round and core and probably won't get drafted because he's five seven you know who did it went on national title Bright young But guess who did Greg McElroy

[00:20:59] Marco Jones got it one two, but Marco Jones got a national title You know said guess who did CJ stroud Man that field goal kicker is probably he's probably kicking himself like Ben because Ohio State would have beat the brakes of a TCU in my not even 65

[00:21:17] Oh, yeah, I didn't even bring that up 65 the Senate last year It would have been 42 to 14 or 42 to 20 is something if Ohio State would have played TCU because they just weren't wired the same like I look at it like I like JJ McCarthy

[00:21:33] I think he is like a really good version of back Jones And if any NFL team drafts them, that's what you're going to get because he talked about it. What are you a 70 for 27 last night? Like not even that like so that's not

[00:21:49] 18 10 free 18 we talked about this before would Penn State the Penn State game would only through the ball three times in the second half I'm not saying he's not a good quarterback because in order to get these positions at some point he has to make these throws

[00:22:05] But until you get a game where you got to go 31 for 40 34350 365 something like that till you have one of these games is no way that you can put him in a top five I think is coach

[00:22:20] If you want to do like a package deal if you're in the top 10 And try to get on both then maybe at a work, but I wouldn't I wouldn't fall in love with the 27 to one record like the big

[00:22:32] I'm not a big quarterback wins guy understand that the quarterback has to play well consistently for your team and win

[00:22:39] Right, it's not a matter of like you can have and on a sub par quarterback a lot like what Iowa does I was a great defense they shut a lot of teams down It's a lot but they don't have the dynamic quarterback consistently

[00:22:54] It's not a very archer they hit it's in the have a very pedestrian Midwestern play action flat paths kind of quarterback now Electrical now that you don't actually funny they came into this year with Kate McNamara as their quarterback who was the predecessor to JJ McCarthy

[00:23:14] Yeah, but he was it he was a socially same thing. He wasn't like a big time big playmaker where his arm and his legs

[00:23:22] You know, he wasn't going to threaten the defense wasn't going to feel threatened because he's there right right so but if you if you look at what makes good day last night

[00:23:33] Like I said I was I was like I was I was kind of excited that it was a beat down Because I was tired

[00:23:43] And I was the entire I got up way earlier than I wanted to and I was watching the game and I was just thinking like at those two runs because you text me was like

[00:23:50] You think you take Michigan and I got on that was something that I had to have everything set up Right after the first touchdown. Yeah, I was cooking didn't I was trying to beat the clock so I was like

[00:24:03] Chopped at the mushrooms and onions at the pasta and the salmon you not be really getting down in the kitchen I'm not just a pie cast it. I mean, I'll be doing other things too

[00:24:10] And I was like clocked like I got to get this ready so by that time I was done with the pasta and the shrimp and the salmon

[00:24:17] Broccoli and I took you get some greens and a little spinach but at the time I sat down he had already scored so then by the time I sat down

[00:24:25] Got settled in he got his second hand off that went for like 40 what yards and when I saw that I was like He bounced around the backfill like levian a bill The unspounds about his pictures whole and to me

[00:24:39] Okay, that's run a bag patience. That's just up front dominance for the offensive line is like you know that this guy just ran a 40 foot short touchdown on you to last

[00:24:50] I mean have the ball right any coach right back in the game any runs the opposite direction first one was to the left bounce bounce bounce out to left bounce bounce out to the right. I was like yeah

[00:25:03] They you can't throw you can't throw your way to victory when another team knows it can beat you up on front like that right You know, this is the first national championship game with two 101 yard or 100 yard wrestlers on the same team since Mark Ingraham and Trent Richardson

[00:25:24] You know, but it just goes to show you how important the trenches are you know, so Michael Pettix right before half time through the touchdown pass But take away because you know now that we do the sports thing before you know You're like oh this game is garbage

[00:25:40] But now as the sports guy you're like okay, Washington's got a little moment so now they got a feel good They get the ball first to start the second half like okay

[00:25:50] We got a game now and it what happens intersection on the first play of the second half Interception on the first play, but even the touchdown drop everything just looked tough like It looked like they were literally trying to climb a rock wall. Yeah, they didn't have that

[00:26:10] But it was exhausting There were moments where a dude's aim was open and like you said Pettix just missed him like he might have freaked out He saw that people, you know, he was he was he was no he's no matter like he just you didn't have that

[00:26:26] He's like I said you slide you bite like I normally slide like I'm a quarterback. I normally step up in the pocket My internal clock says I got I got 1.25 seconds from here from right now my slide Look Throw

[00:26:45] I think he was sliding like I don't have that. I don't know what's going on behind me because it wasn't like it was like a comfortable slide sometimes Like watch time really like manipulate the pocket and like okay this guy and this tackle and making good blocks

[00:27:01] Let me slide over here And I'll be able to get this pass off And he did that against Texas. I watched me. It was step up. He was slide

[00:27:10] But I think he knew Texas wasn't getting the push up front because sweat was on an exercise bike for a while to gain so he knew when he stepped up

[00:27:19] I got some more time because 93's not across me so I can make this throw in between these two safety's because All cornerbacks is only so much taken to the most talented corners

[00:27:30] And the most talented secondary they're not going to recover why receivers for four and a half to five seconds because Why I've seen was looking back at the quarterback and sees that oh he's rolled this way and he can make a quick move

[00:27:44] The corners and no man's land So you need that push up front and I think Michigan was getting that push and it was like it's nothing to do about it The play called in time out's the run game

[00:27:58] You're running back up there with the with the Lord foot leg ankle injuries and just gotten it out And I respect those I respect performance But that's why you got to like you got another people ready and develop

[00:28:11] I mean Michigan had a one two punch they've did use that same one two punch for last two years It's the same concept that hardball was implementing when he was in with the 49ers

[00:28:22] And with the ways running ball and putting two tight ends in the game and like giving Given the defense a couple different looks

[00:28:30] Watch them as is basically you want to tell like you know, we have talented. Why receivers we got a pretty solid tight end good run game

[00:28:37] You know, we're going jab jab, don't body blows. So hooks we're going to do our thing whereas Michigan was like hey we're going hit you with this overhand right multiple times in the first quarter Well apparently

[00:28:51] Shipping gears a little you know no livar ball, you know, there was the whole Michigan supposedly have a 125 million dollar contract Wait on our ball and my question was I think everybody's going to have that weight on them Well my question was like okay, he went to Michigan

[00:29:12] You know 125 million if he signed it yet chances are he may not sign it and he's got this gold Some ridiculous contract and he's got his got he got 50 he crossed this goal off the list

[00:29:29] But he got unfinished business because he was a play away. Yeah, he was a play away from winning the Super Bowl You know, I think Super Bowl for the 49ers a team you didn't play for

[00:29:42] Resonate some more no then a championship for the not at all not at all Skin and Bolshevik is father and coddle not at all. I just think that He did it now But he's the type of competitive person where

[00:29:57] There's probably a part of him and obviously I'm over. We have there's a lot in it a hard boss right there's there's a lot of I don't want to present part of him. There's a part of him that might feel like not a failure

[00:30:10] But just feel especially his brother got a Super Bowl you know to be like he had to feel like I know I know, but I'm just saying I just see it like this

[00:30:20] Crazy amount is because says they're playing together like I think I think I think I think he might With that but if he takes it in a few job, I could see why so he can give him a brother can bail on and the super world again

[00:30:32] But I don't think that he I don't think college might have been better. I think is college time and the legacy that he built As a player With the connections it was father what his connections to a legendary coach

[00:30:50] I think that might resonate more than and if I think his brother was his breakout like I didn't know John Harball was like a I didn't know who he was until he got hired by the Ravens and yeah, he was like a special teams coach

[00:31:06] Jim Harball's older brother where as Jim Michigan, Schembreckler dad's a coach he played for or he played for like the bears and the coach I remember they came against

[00:31:19] Pittsburgh, yeah, oh man it was so close. Like some of his coach fan like to do that he was bringing his hands down Yeah, on top of the ball and like rolled and like lifting his hands up

[00:31:33] I'm like yeah, he's getting to the ball though. Like it was it was on his chest and because my aunt months of Pittsburgh still is fair And I was at her house

[00:31:43] I don't know if I was with my pops or not, but I was at my house set up my talk And she's a still is fan and my dad, you know, her older brother is coach fan

[00:31:54] And I remember watching it on a TV play was no bigger than this minor now. I think about it That was like, yeah, his hands like over top of the ball and he just rolled and lifted his hands up But I think his

[00:32:07] And like he has it I think he's in a position that like I mean, who's come to the big ten USC, you see is going to the way you want to take it or again. So UCLA USC Oregon Washington

[00:32:20] Big ten, I don't think they're threats to Michigan meet you know in the right now Oregon has the number one recruited class in the big ten Yeah, that's that school we'll see just that but organs always has good players because I think organs

[00:32:38] I think the Jordan's that get released in Oregon colors convinces certain amount of guys to come to the school I think they get recruit based on like the like they claim of being involved with Nike

[00:32:51] It's not a lot of like results just in her book was there. I don't think he played in the hospital player team Mario to just Mario to be for the state, but that's it They're just always really good as well

[00:33:04] Because they are Nike. Well Michigan is all such big kids They're just to kid that always has dope out this episode Michigan is probably losing McCarthy They're probably going to lose Blake. Corrum. They're going to lose a few people off of that defense

[00:33:18] You know Ohio State just went and got wheel Howard from Kansas State. They just went and got Quinn Sean juckins from all this You know, they still got trivia on Henderson. Oh, I know states locked in loaded for next year

[00:33:28] Yeah, but no one has any faith in Ryan day to the level that they have with Jim Harba That's fair so

[00:33:39] Either I mean, I don't know I don't know when the recruiting year looks like I don't know if guys can decommend and still get the mission or I don't know if they have a lot of guys waiting in a wings

[00:33:48] That could really that could really take it forward, but Somebody from all from a contract of a hundred million plus got to got to whether whether it's the Raiders The Falcons whether it's the England when he hit rid of Bill Belichick

[00:34:02] I'm not going there. You know, apparently he's apparently he's really good friends with Bob Myers, which I just learned about We get we get

[00:34:17] You and I good friends, but I'm not moving to San Antonio so you and I could be live. So sounds like from what I've been here in the South. Yes, that's far From what I've been hearing it sounds like Bella check is willing to give up

[00:34:28] His GM do so that might so that might keep them around you know another year at least or another two years baby I don't mean he's a break the record He is What he Something wins the way I'm gonna look it up right now. Keep talking

[00:34:47] So a fee Yeah, like I looked it up the other day too. I'm so mad at myself that I got It would take the serious overall to get him like honestly I don't even like other than him personally just wanted it

[00:35:07] I don't think people look at Da Shula as One of the greatest coaches in NFL me because maybe so long ago So he's actually only he's actually on the way

[00:35:20] So in theory you get a good GM that gets you up to number one and get you some both it like you got to get like you've got to get some what's that movie? What Kevin Costner

[00:35:35] You draft that you need something like that to happen where you can like phonagle and get Top of the way back and the top and the top wide receiver one draft and then you got to hit on like three or four

[00:35:47] That's what I mean I don't know they were a couple of wins. I mean a couple of games away from winning like you know eight games this year

[00:35:57] So if they could go eight and nine if they could go eight and nine next year you have to wait there when you go points you can't you got to You've got to put out a roster that says At minimum I'm getting ten wins my amy Buffalo

[00:36:18] Kansas City Healthy Cincinnati Baltimore San Francisco Billy Dallas So we're up to eight that's about right but about a quarter of the league those eight teams Starting up at the beginning of training camp We're a 10 win team it's bird My Tom my

[00:36:50] Tom your nine went team off of his cashier The roster basically seems to be not existing the quarterback who plays for Pittsburgh

[00:36:58] Can't be anybody I think my son and Mitch or biscuits same height so maybe I get him out there and he could do what you're risky did But it's like it's Certain teams can be like yeah, we're 10 went team off the rip

[00:37:14] You got teams like New Orleans and Lana Jacksonville Greenland Green Bay That's a Minnesota if we do XYZ correctly Seattle The apparently the Rams But those are the teams is like we got a win

[00:37:38] We're going to have the win these games these rivalry games that we know we're going to have We're not going to be favored in these games They do it's like strould only going to get better True new to hope but the problem is when you have team success

[00:37:57] It's going luckily they have a bunch of young players And I want to see him when to play off game I think that it's going to be tough It will be dope just because the Carolina owner is losing his cool and

[00:38:13] The fact that he had an opportunity to take CJ Strahov and didn't and it's not bright Some fault that they're not successful. I don't know if you're going to have successful in Carolina But the apples or oranges rudimentary no research base feelings only comparison is like dog

[00:38:33] You know you trade away a lot to get this guy and the dude that was right behind them once in games He looks good even he looks good all year even after bad games We're about to take the air out of the balloon here three interceptions against

[00:38:53] He threw three picks because somebody was in New Orleans No it was later than that because I know New Orleans was what he threw the first pick

[00:39:01] He threw three picks and I believe I think he threw two picks and so got a win and then three picks and a loss And then he had the Jacksonville loss. I think he played I think he had a couple of picks and a Jacksonville loss

[00:39:17] But then they came back they beat them for Yeah, they they made the throw it was 63 yards in the air on the first play against any necklace to a Michigan receiver He losses them when we were a silver to injury tanked hell. They're the young guys growing together

[00:39:36] And then all sudden he was like, you know you go get open So it kind of like it makes like the whole Pash my home. You need why I would see was whatever whatever Maybe that guy's more talented maybe just younger and they just don't know any better

[00:39:49] Right, so what a good news. I like them. I like them in the playoffs I think I would I want them to do well. I want to do well because I think they'd be good in the tank

[00:39:58] The good news is the Cleveland Browns know that they can win on that field The bad news is CJ Stroud played that game So that was the game. He missed one of the games he missed with the concussion

[00:40:10] Yeah, so Davis Mills got the start that game is still put up 22 on Cleveland Davis Mills Yeah, and He's serving neck he got those was it like a serial thing Oh, the net general mills

[00:40:26] But but you know, but yeah, so so flacco's coming in there. You know and it's so hilarious I love listening to how people talk about different quarterbacks Because like people are like Joe Flacco

[00:40:39] He put the brows on his back. He's doing this. He's doing that. He looks great Like he did and I'm like he's still through eight intersections Even though he only played like five or six games. He do more to the sounds. Can you pick it though?

[00:40:55] He did throw more touchdowns than can he pick it. Thirty touchdowns eight intersections, but so obviously, you know, the last couple of weeks We could plan without he didn't play this past week, but a Mari Cooper has been out as well

[00:41:07] And that game against Houston was when a Mari Cooper went for 265 and broke the Browns record So, you know, we know that Mari Cooper feels comfortable against that secondary Provided that he comes back this weekend So I think Houston can win the game

[00:41:27] You know, I just don't know if they will I mean, I figure it's at home I believe the men in the locker room Believe any other That goes from the coaches to the players and their play as like resonated that tone

[00:41:52] Sometimes it's a matter of we're talking about Philly But I want to jump to gun, but Philly want to 11 games Right? And there's people talking about them losing their first playoff game Because from what we can tell through press conferences through all of the performance

[00:42:19] They're not, they're not operating like a team that won 11 games Right, whereas the Texas went 10 and 7 And most of people probably had them Best case scenario people probably had them 5 and 12 And I wasn't thinking about telling, I just was thinking about

[00:42:36] You have a rookie quarterback, rookie head coach That combination with the team that essentially The earned the numbers you picked like they They were in the position to be enough one pick Well, then coming around which is You're just going to know coach and new quarterback

[00:42:56] You're not supposed to win 10 games The problem with Philly though is that they started 10 and 1 And finished 1 and 5 And what it was 5 was Arizona, another one of those 5 was the giants Yeah, but they still would be going back to 10 wins

[00:43:15] I mean they got to 10 out of the first 11 games So it was like I think as a collective inside that locker room It should have been a part when they got to 10 and 1 And then it was a scramble and it was

[00:43:28] What probably like I think they went 10 and 2, right 10 and 3 Then they went 11, 3 and they lost the last 2, 11 I got a lost the Arizona, they lost to the giants They beat Buffalo, so they beat Buffalo So you beat Buffalo a team that was on their bronze

[00:43:48] So I think it was like 11, so I think they might have been like 10 And they were like 10 and 2, maybe 11 and 2 after that game I'm going to be wrong but somewhere in that range That should have been their point real good

[00:44:03] Everyone getting here, man, though you feel it's in the middle Was hash it out Now all this feelings, we do it all in this trash, these trash bags That's getting out of here, let's go play football I don't know if they did that

[00:44:18] Then I think Houston probably had a moment where it was like, yeah We had a bag game today Take tomorrow off I'll see y'all Tuesday for film We'll do it walk through Wednesday And guys went home They, whatever the loss happened on Sunday

[00:44:39] It took my day off, the relax and they came back on Tuesday Ready to go, where's the affiliate It doesn't seem as if guys were taking that Monday off To be introspective like, you know what? Maybe Buffalo did that when there was 6 and 6 guys went home

[00:44:55] So you know what? What can I do to get better? They did not even go 9 or 11 That's what they did They evoked 9 or 11 Never forget Kansas City is the same way, it was like they were struggling But were they collectively like listen fellas

[00:45:13] We're struggling, we're in the last mile of this marathon Slow to pace down Breathe into your nose out the mouth Let's get to this finish line Reset, get to the play off It feels as if they were able to do that

[00:45:30] Detroit had a nice, I think they were like 8 and 2 People had them as their favorite carf was an MVP conversation And then They get together What can we do from here? The giants, they were having a terrible year They inserted the Durser and quarterback

[00:45:51] They had a great buzz for 3 to 4 weeks The city got like one of the parents One of the team we had a Monday night, my son, first and basketball game We had a Monday night game Game started like 345, he was like we gotta get out of here

[00:46:08] I'm going up to the giant's game He was sitting at the 300 section I was going to the game because he's just a great story A guy from the city playing quarterback, foot of giants And that's the game that went in against Green Bay

[00:46:24] Everybody was buying it all the strong bully But everyone was buying it And we are from MetLife Stadium, from his house, our house Our area really live in Without traffic, it's an hour It's a change, hour five minutes maybe That's no traffic 20 dollars in tolls there and back

[00:46:49] And if they're charging for parking, there's like 40 dollars You know, speaking of its side note, sorry That's dedication to get your friends there We are going to be in the United States military I just got to take a second

[00:47:04] When I went up to that demolition, all thanks given People were paying 120 bucks to park That's your book, the free Yeah, I'm part for free, you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm in the club But people were paying 120 bucks To park right across from the stadium

[00:47:25] You gotta be kidding That's all $80 See the thing with MetLife Stadium is that you park at the stadium Because I went to a game once, I went to the Pact12 Yeah, the Pact12 champs came in 2018 It was Utah, Washington, but it was in Santa Clara at the LV

[00:47:45] I stayed here, I don't know if they'll call LVibras, I leave I stayed here So around the stadium was plenty of parking But businesses down the street They didn't use their parking lot So we ended up parking behind some mechanic spot

[00:48:01] It's probably like a quarter mile half a mile from the stadium Not in far, but I think then I want to get it on to be right I believe it was 40 It might have been 30 That's crazy It was like either 50, 50, 40, 30, somewhere there

[00:48:18] But even with that, I wasn't close We still had to walk up the block to get to the stadium So I went to the Jets Falcon's game And here MetLife Stadium is right up the turnpoints You come up the turnpoints and you essentially drive right into the park

[00:48:33] Follow me, found it, probably found it What's that? The Lakers are the rappers So yeah, so you drive right up the turnpoints into the park and left So I'm driving because I took this for the game And a pull-in and a look at around him

[00:48:54] I don't see any parking attendance But this gate was like shifted to where you can drive into this park and section But it was pouring down a rain in So I found this spot, I felt like right next to this stadium

[00:49:09] Back then, parts, I talked to one of the guys like, yeah, I got paid for this Because it's like, no one really needs to look But like, no one got to be like a platinum whatever But the game had already started Yeah, and it was like it's raining

[00:49:24] So the Lakers people walked around looking for passes So I was like, that's because I got my money on the scheme before It was $40 a park I'm like the park I was already built, what am I paying for? Right, the asphalt's already leaking, he's already paying it

[00:49:39] Like, what am I paying you for it all, just to go be your foot? All right, so let's switch gears for a quick second Let's change this for a second Let's play a game I got them So Baltimore Ravens, 49ers are the number one seeds

[00:49:56] Correct, who is the biggest threat to Baltimore? Baltimore Okay, Confucius That seems very generic I don't think any of the other six teams in the FCE I don't think any of them do anything That Baltimore isn't prepared to be

[00:50:24] Because I don't think if we just went down, okay, if you look at Pittsburgh Pittsburgh can Pittsburgh when if you take away the run game No, no Buffalo If you take away the run game, and then you make Josh L Yes, 45 times Make them throw it 45 times

[00:50:49] If the answer throw it, come back to Baltimore Next to you next to you If the answer throw it like there's not enough water Just go to the next one I don't call 45 times And I run it 20 times when in the football game

[00:51:05] All right, all right, what's that? I'm just a lonely guy with a podcast Who's next? Do they match up? Well, does they do their wire receivers threaten the Baltimore D now? No, my Amy Like we were talking about pre-meaning You said they leave the league and rushing

[00:51:27] They're like six never rush in But like just in that the upper, like they're one of the more prominent You know, the better rushing teams Yeah, can Baltimore stop the run Yes, couple would the fact they just beat them I don't think they'll put 50 points up

[00:51:45] But Houston young, can you confuse the young quarterback with that kind of defense And Cleveland That's the answer I think Cleveland, so you got Joe Flacco with a 13 to 18 picks No, it's not about Joe Flacco It's not about Joe Flacco It's about their defense

[00:52:06] You know, because there's like you always say defense travels You know, so Cleveland is defensive But they're 20 points Yeah, but their defense is still better than Baltimore's in And yes, by the way, Cleveland did win in Baltimore by the way

[00:52:20] You know, that grant that was the Sean Watson But Cleveland did win in Baltimore, so it's not unheard of Yeah, but it's on the hurdle They still had a make shove that game No That was pretty posted, chub injury

[00:52:38] Yes, that was supposed to because Baltimore was actually up by I want to say 13 or so I heard it's a run I heard it said I think it might have been rich Eisen but I could be wrong But I'm gonna give credit to rich Eisen

[00:52:51] Maybe it was first things first but Baltimore had The lead in every game up until it's this last game I believe I'm not sure exactly what the last game was that but they had a lead in the final two minutes of every game that played it

[00:53:10] Yeah, they didn't have deleted this game everybody sat But also but also just for the flip side of that Carol line up it and take one snap this year With the lead in the lead or yes

[00:53:22] You know like yeah, but yeah, I think Cleveland Cleveland's defense is probably the biggest issue for Baltimore I don't think anybody's offense is going to be a big enough threat to make Baltimore scramble or feel But don't you think Baltimore has a bit of a cheat code?

[00:53:43] I had like I said I got to admit where I was wrong I've seen the bar Jackson got performed at the playoffs if you guess where you were going to go And home though have you seen it? No, I think most of them have been on the road

[00:54:00] They have been number one scene I remember playoff game they lost at Buffalo I remember the playoff game they won at Tennessee I think that was the same year Tennessee lost the Buffalo the next week

[00:54:13] I think they might have lost at when they were number one see maybe it's been a year He's been injured you know the last couple of seasons that we haven't been able to see it

[00:54:23] Correct, I just think like the Cleveland the Cleveland pick is a is it two five is a couple of people I'm not picking Cleveland the beat. I'm just saying that you would aren't particularly in the fact that you think they could because they're defense travels

[00:54:40] That's just like but it's not your right to think that you don't just take you So I'm not going to take everything for face value. I'm a big deep from taking a surface

[00:54:50] So I figured that would be that I figured Cleveland or Buffalo will be the two teams Well Buffalo would just be me being biased, but you know what I mean, but like so like look this is the thing Josh Allen can beat anybody

[00:55:02] Josh Allen can lose to anybody So like I would trust him against Baltimore's defense after I saw but they did to brought pretty for example So it would be hard for me to think that Josh Allen could go into Baltimore and engineer it

[00:55:18] So it conversely to that like I don't know what Cleveland's defense will be able to do because Eventually The way most of most games go, I don't say both but if you think about it You got two teams that are good defensively

[00:55:35] One team might be better off if it's the other Cleveland is definitely the inferior offense to ballpoint John Harbaw's a smart coach So he'll punt it Maybe penalty inside the inside the 20 Maybe his sack Maybe a negative play a hold get some 12 or 11

[00:56:00] They put it back to you, you get it at your 45 You move it a little bit more if you get a Justin Tucker field goal kick off Now you got three points in a boys not much but Cleveland has to move the ball at all

[00:56:14] Or Buffalo has to move the ball at all and then ball to more Your person because you're not the only down to zero But you want to get a good drive in because you don't want to pun it back to them

[00:56:24] I thought of both go to Baltimore and win this year Yo, I saw it but I saw a lanybick the coach. I'm not putting the lanybick as a Baltimore I know that's what it's like You could double all the money and you're 401K your life insurance

[00:56:38] And you're thinking about right now If you think a lanybick can be Baltimore and Blake Cleveland also has a miles Garrett that nobody else has You know and when you look at it, you know they have the division robbery

[00:56:51] So they would you know there's familiarity with Baltimore and with each other So so so so everybody else So flack of it and see Baltimore But when I look at everybody else you know when I look at Miami I don't trust to this late the year

[00:57:09] You know like that's just me you know You know Kansas City you like you said they don't have the wide receiver so Patrick Mahomes would literally have to put the team on his back to beat Baltimore

[00:57:21] There's nothing about Kansas City's virus he recorded. I will make Baltimore do anything right I don't see some J stroud as a rookie going into Baltimore and winning you know I don't see I don't think their run game is consistent enough to keep Baltimore's defense honest

[00:57:39] You know if I look at that buffalo like I said Josh Allen is like the gift and the curse You know, so I'm not even considering that right now. I might feel different if they actually match up but right now

[00:57:50] I can't see that Pittsburgh they beat Baltimore early in the season with Kenny Pickett You know they beat them this week with no starters So but that's a weird set that Pittsburgh is too an all against Baltimore Your five in one in the division

[00:58:05] Doesn't make any sense the division all everybody's above 500 pits burrow five in one turn of recorded and all of it explained to me how does this fact That makes no sense to me Division. Yes, they're only lost with the cleavage

[00:58:24] Why the hell do I ever pick it because my time they wanted to fire him for weeks go by like How though they did it when they lied that leaves was that everybody or did I miss a team?

[00:58:33] I think that's everybody. That's too funny. Yeah, yeah, so so creep when I added all of the best unit left on the teams that are not Baltimore is cleavage defense That's the best unit left. I'm less unless unless you want to say my end is often it's

[00:58:49] I mean, but that's the thing what you're doing is like You're taking Baltimore Just flat and then you're picking out the other six teams what The best thing about with the other six teams do that could impact Baltimore. No there's a problem

[00:59:10] There's three quarterbacks that I don't trust. I don't trust straw because he's a rookie even though he's good I don't like what you're saying so like what you're taking is like here's Baltimore. Here's a complete team and you're like

[00:59:22] You're using your your mostly argument your narrative is like I think cleavage defense can do this against Baltimore And I think buffalo plan at their best offensive could do this to Baltimore

[00:59:35] But that's the thing Baltimore is so good and they've shown it in these big games. I think it was probably they probably had the biggest Bonus and biggest bump in psyche and advantage over each conference when they got the play

[00:59:54] San Francisco late in the season when everyone has San Francisco picked as a Super Bowl champ and my amy late in the season

[01:00:02] When everyone had them picked to be a viable threat to make this super bowl in as he and they beat on both by I'm like 140 something like that Something like that so by maybe 56 to 19 19 and I'd be happy

[01:00:17] I don't know something like that. So they put up you know 90. They made 90 points in a couple of weeks Their quarterback went from a third or fourth and our MVP race to

[01:00:30] The odds and winner, so basically all stories Baltimore to the Super Bowl Baltimore to the Super Bowl Baltimore to the Super Bowl But it's a it's a lazy argument, but I don't see realistically I think the holes that the other teams have

[01:00:45] Can't be compensated for but the things that make them solid. I don't think the Kansas City defense Can make up for the fact that the virus he before has been a threat over here

[01:00:57] I don't think the Buffalo defense can make up for the fact that Josh Allen Mike throw up a hell Mary in the first quarter right And it was picked that he threw the other night were just disgusting like that's something that

[01:01:10] He did the same thing he threw a bomb to Stuff on digs, so there's nothing on film right it tells him don't do that

[01:01:20] Didn't I didn't it worked so yeah, so what you did up so switch it up. Who's the biggest threat the San Francisco biggest threat to San Francisco I will say Dallas

[01:01:33] I will say Dallas because of the city land. He had a touchdown pass test anniversary in last nine games I believe like so we had to come since early by Joe Burrow at that it gave you my opinion

[01:01:48] I think Dallas and people could talk about play officially whatever the case would be icing when you put them on the field If Dallas can get the brock party Because Dallas has the person now to get the brock party

[01:02:06] I'm not saying like if it's a team like a like Tampa Bay I don't know if Tampa Bay has the defensive personnel to rattle brock party But I can say if Tampa Bay can get some personal brock party

[01:02:19] Yeah, of course, if you get pressure on anybody if you can get brock party up his spot If you can go to his third read yet every single quarterback if you make them wait there for four seconds

[01:02:27] While four dudes who wait two hundred ninety pounds plus a try to fight and tackle them. Yeah, they might get a little rattle

[01:02:33] But I think Dallas really has like the personnel to make that happen in a realistic framework of the game that two and a half three second You got to get the ball out I got the Marcus Florence and his lap I got my capacitance coming over his shoulder

[01:02:48] I got a you know Blan really pressing the quarterbacks I mean the why was he so I think Dallas granted a beyond a road That it should be tough But I will say Dallas probably has the biggest threat because I don't think Dallas has a hole

[01:03:09] So both teams bring their Their a game As in Dallas makes a mix the extra play or the extra two plays It could be the difference between losing 27 to 21 or winning 27 is 20 when I think Dallas has that kind of person. I think everybody else would have to like

[01:03:31] If they would need a little bit more a little bit more luck, they would need a black punt. They would need a fake punt I'm having a small Nicole I think Dallas is the correct answer as well

[01:03:45] Just based on history and what we've seen recently two years in the playoffs Seth Cisco beat Dallas in Dallas 23 to 17 That was the game where DAC Didn't spike the ball or he didn't give the ball to the referee whatever ball that arrest yet Last year

[01:04:03] I'm so deeply doing it. Have you watched it again? Guys are looking for like Yeah, I think now I think if I remember Correctly when they played last year I want to say it was 12 to 9 from most of the game. Tony Pollock got hurt

[01:04:18] And then I think Seth Cisco scored a such down. Lee Maybe and put it away Or Dallas actually had a chance I think with the ball they had a last position But they were at their own 10 So Dallas is probably the answer

[01:04:36] But just to be different so we're not saying the same stuff I'm going to go with the tree You know, I think just like the Rams are Hold on, the whole stop's mentioned We ain't there yet Stop's mentioned Stop You don't say what's his word

[01:04:59] That was a mushyugna right there. You don't say Like no, hold on. What's my favorite car game bullshit You don't say it's logical like hold up like hold on Hold on, we're going to keep going. I got to grab some

[01:05:12] We go get there. I'm just saying that what I look at it Sean McVay and Shanahan know each other pretty well for the most part Shanahan owns a big day Big day one in FC Championship game a couple of years ago

[01:05:30] He won the game the other day with Carson went against Sam Darnl But McVay is five and ten now Kyle Shanahan You know when I look at Billy If they're whole and regular they obviously would be the answer to this question But we know that Billy is not

[01:05:51] What we know, Billy to be going off the last season So I couldn't in good faith saved them. I can't pick a team And I know he's played good this year But I can't pick a team with Baker Mayfield To threaten San Francisco Trying to think of losses

[01:06:09] Drey Bay I can't look at Green Bay because I feel that San Francisco with Fluster Jordan love you know even though he's been playing well as of late finish the season with 32 touchdowns

[01:06:21] 11 intersections I just feel like he's early in his career to think that he could walk up into San Francisco and get a victory So when I look at Detroit It's a team that San Francisco hasn't played this year

[01:06:33] It's a team that there used to be this thing you know I was watching wrestling back in the day and you know before I knew it was like faking all that stuff You would have to do like Sean Michaels fighting against the Undertaker or something

[01:06:48] Clearly outmatched in the announce of what say something like he's got more brains in heart that he's got more heart that he got brains You know he's just going to keep going at it. He's so resilient

[01:07:00] That's how I feel about Detroit. Dan Campbell doesn't know he should fear San Francisco You know to me he doesn't know that San Francisco is the big bully on the block because he bites me cats

[01:07:11] You know he does he has jerk golf who has played against San Francisco and had success You know he has the ultimate weapon in my opinion Jamir gives so going back to the Cleveland thing Cleveland has the best defense you know or whatever

[01:07:26] Like I think Detroit has the best weapon to where if they were to play against San Francisco They have the X factor that could make San Francisco sweat some you know when I look at San Francisco the only question that I have about San Francisco is

[01:07:46] The same question that I had last year can't brought perdi do this like he's obviously a good quarterback He's obviously proven itself over the course of a season Play also just a little bit different

[01:08:00] You know and we talked about it last year when he played you know that's what we first started our show You know never plan to get Seattle and I think it was you know when he anniversary pretty soon, right?

[01:08:11] Yeah, the 27th the 27th. Yeah, you said you said that Broke perdi was winning these games But he didn't go nowhere like it was all in California. Yeah, he played the Raiders like you know, yeah

[01:08:26] They were in a Western there were to Western time zone. Yeah, so the good news is so the good news is they have home field advantage No, stay out west so they go stay out west Rosenviggas, you know I know that Christian McAfrey has the cash strain

[01:08:43] So he'll have some time to rest up You know, but what if a team is effective in slowing him down Kid brought perdi make the throw game on the line Okay, I'm just going to check something that kind of support that argument or kid he BJ Jay McCarthy

[01:09:03] It just make you know as they said in the hot box make the throws when it matters like shack hit the free throws when it counts Even though they all count can't brought perdi make that throw or lead that drive with their backs against the wall

[01:09:22] He hasn't had to do it a lot this year and that type of way in a playoff setting because both like when I look at their losses ball to more dominated them Cincinnati pretty much dominated them

[01:09:36] Cleveland they lost because they missed the last second field goal, but that was the exact score 17 points But that was that kid who did this

[01:09:44] Yeah, but that was that cleat defense that I was telling you about you know the me and the Vikings I watched that game they could not not convert on third down. Yeah, and that was just

[01:09:56] I'm on third that catch that Jordan Addison had you know for the long touchdown that that was something that you couldn't recreate Yeah, and it was by five that's what I was looking at is like because Nick right on first things first makes his argument about property And

[01:10:16] He's he's a smart guy shut up the Nick right first thing first, but what he does

[01:10:22] He's such a smart guy that he'll make like the argument not this not like the hate are arguing like skit balis will make where like a gack of score 55 points in the basketball game

[01:10:33] And go 20 set or 20 for 32 and skit balis to say something like well he missed 12 shots He scored 55 points with well in my wrong didn't not miss 12 shots was he not open on those shots and focus on

[01:10:50] Like the fact that the sky missed 12 shots and the fact that Scott score 55 points But Nick right was the one with Brock Perri and I think the one trying to tell him on the show was that I think early on his argument was

[01:11:01] Wait until Brock Perri is the reason they lose a game And then they lost some games and he's like hell, it happens you lose games, right? So yeah, well I want to see him come back from a double digit deficit in the second half

[01:11:17] And then they went on like a five game run where he did. He did was just done a game like I think from that point it was that was like the jack or a game because he's really big on the prince That was promised and Trevor wants So

[01:11:33] San Francisco beat the 40 the buck in the years by 13 They went by 18 over sent or Seattle They beat the Eagles 42 to 19 They beat the C.Ox against 28 16 They beat the Cardinals 45 to 29 so that 1 2 3 4 So every week 1 2 3 4 5 6 weeks is

[01:11:54] His argument was let's see him do it when he's down in the second half and everyone was like well If he plays so well in the first half, he's never going to be down in the second half

[01:12:04] And that's the thing is like when they're up because they have a talented team and he makes sure that ends his runs The reason when they're not up in this is like NFL games don't go possession possession touchdown touchdown touchdown touchdown

[01:12:20] But if one team gets hot like Minnesota, they would convert North third down. Kirk cousins was killed him on third down

[01:12:28] You can't get up the field like you can kill and a real less alive if you play a properly you can kill like two and a half to three minutes And you're normal, a normal first and ten you run the ball you burn out 40 seconds 40 seconds 40 seconds

[01:12:46] Then you maybe you look up get a first down so that's what they were doing in Minnesota in the score 22 points You know, so I think it's just this narrative that brought pretty me so like show you they can come from behind

[01:12:59] Right, and he doesn't even mean me. I'm just asking when he's on he's on that he's on because They as a collective are on and I don't want to say it's going to be Baltimore, San Francisco Super Bowl because I think that's kind of boring

[01:13:13] Because and to think that would all the you know, the 14 teams of all just like it's kind of a lazy kind of like assessment I just don't see anything that the other teams do that I can pull out

[01:13:26] That like this team is definitely going to beat Baltimore. I just think Dallas has the propensity to do it because the way they play up front And with Gilmore and blend

[01:13:39] I just think that that clock that quarterback side we talked about Michael Pinnick's we talked about quarterbacks not you know, not like you move up there spot If I get a good pass for us now to guys have played great man and man coverage

[01:13:53] Because even like cover three, as an CB if you run it go Ross man and man cover two for ten to twelve yards Like man on so that's that's your two and a half seconds right there

[01:14:07] All right, so two more questions and then we'll wrap this up and then we'll get to the game will predict the games on Thursday. So leave my leave my ram's thing alone. We'll save that for Thursday. All right, so I don't know you talk about is actually exactly.

[01:14:22] Mom's the word all right, so we look so we sit up in early February And Baltimore's not in the Super Bowl. Why what would be the reason for their downfall Week in Baltimore's 90. Yeah, I mean it can't be nothing like you'll the bar guy heard I'm gonna say

[01:14:59] Cadarius Tony got a pump return and he was open on a lot of third downs and Kansas City just kept the ball Okay

[01:15:12] Because I just it has to ask me something like that. I want to say Buffalo but still fine digs hasn't at these average like 40 yards of game 87 the other night, but he didn't have a touchdown but he didn't have a touchdown

[01:15:26] But I don't think he had more than 50 55 yards for the previous four yeah something like 30 not in a half yards 39 like 30 not four or some of the crazy So It had to be something like that like one of these games where you

[01:15:43] Get either my amybees Kansas City and they just figure out a way Taking their game plan ahead would they just lost and scrapping it and doing whatever worked because they it was close. It was like 1413

[01:16:00] Right, so just multiply and extrapolating whatever worked to get him that at point and sticking to that but other than that man would have to be just it would have to be bought the moment stakes For me I think it's like if

[01:16:19] Of course the big it for right you know the fifth we all be drunk right exactly if you could somehow channel Buffalo from arrowhead the overtime game if you could channel buffalo versus Baltimore a couple years ago. Yeah, if you could channel Josh Allen Plan against

[01:16:41] I don't know trying to think of the Raiders versus plan against the Ravens then they he's good enough I think to send Baltimore home, but I just can't trust the field any and his mind you can convince them that those are red Kansas City cheese jerseys and

[01:16:59] Not black or purple whatever you're gonna wear at home Baltimore Ravens are because he plays top nice football versus cheese. He plays great against Miami You got to convince him like you though this is just like planning and cities at arrowhead

[01:17:12] The other thing if he thinks that is Baltimore because they're gonna get they're gonna send people from everywhere at him on different Please the other thing that came to mind and this is such a two five cents because nobody would know nobody would ever We're safe

[01:17:30] A team might have to force O. Del Beckham to beat them because stopping because obviously the key That is that is so you Think about something like

[01:17:48] Obviously you think the key is we got a slow Baltimore's run game down don't know if you could fully stop it because Lamars Element of the run game. So you got to slow down Baltimore's run game now you don't want Zay flowers to get loose

[01:18:01] You know crossing routes slants, you know he could take it to the house when you know So you're gonna do I would think you're going to do something to try to limit him in the passing game him being your focus

[01:18:14] You know, so does O. Del have vintage O. Del inside of him I think it might be it might be some routes they know that they can run with him. Yeah, I mean he's had good games this year

[01:18:29] I'm not trying to make it sound like he hasn't had good games this year Every polarized it felt like two years old. Yeah, talk about what's in but he shouldn't have that he doesn't have any catches that stand out this year besides the one on Thursday night football

[01:18:44] I just Can he can he be the reliable receiver at the pencil how many times you go to that well because Zay flowers They'll get him to ball and jet sweeps right. That's what I'm saying

[01:18:59] Yeah, they'll get them they'll get it to him. They'll go shotgun information with two like what are running back to Lamar as right and then Zay flowers was left

[01:19:09] And just give them the ball in space and just have them want a lineback or for you know a certain eight you know because he's that dynamic But I think if he gets off Then

[01:19:20] O. Del in the post route because of his footwork right and the way he can run routes they'll bury you

[01:19:27] Yeah, if you go zero coverage and you you man him up on the safety of something crazy like that or you go cover one and he can get to the corner Just he's too dynamic in space I do that and I think

[01:19:42] Yeah, I think that's the piece because his hands are always reliable. He's not a drop pass guy is not like like I said in the yes I have if I'm a defensive coordinator. I'm perfectly good with whatever corner I have

[01:19:55] Mass up with him 101 even if it's Ela Apple out even care Even it yeah, but As I have a safety Over time I will trust any corner In zero coverage because Like

[01:20:12] Packed my home talk about this and the Super Bowl with it really one zero coverage and they do that touchdown sky more to the left What emotion the men because they did the same thing when Kateri's Tony caught a touchdown

[01:20:25] And he's talked about it on quarterback on the Netflix special use like I saw they ran zero coverage So it must be something that like I'm not a quarterback. I've never been a professional quarterback It must be something that he knew like okay

[01:20:38] This guy can't they're not passing it all because we're inside the 10 so I'm a motion Sky more in and send him on a little out row. So I think is so tough to be in zero coverage with no safety

[01:20:53] But if you put a safety of it's up I trust my corner where and yes, I still don't trust my guy would owe it back

[01:20:59] Because I think he's healthy he hasn't been a work. He probably had to get hit a lot. He probably has some his games for anything because like those years

[01:21:07] And even you know with LA he was constantly in targeted was running hard routes trying to I think it Baltimore has been a lot of like all right save it will get you open

[01:21:19] All right, so we wake up in February and Sapphire Cisco's not in the Super Bowl. What happened? Couching in Okay, I think I'm trying to be Sure I'm trying to be I just think that he's one of those coaches that has a thinking knows

[01:21:45] He's probably forgotten more about football than I ever know but that can also make you think That on this third and two I should just give it straight up To Devo or McAfrey or Mitchell

[01:22:03] Just run it. I just have a feeling where it would be some kind of fake here fake here roll out pretty Kiddo on the flat ball gets tipped intercepted like I just think like those kind of plays those simple Let's just use our physical advantage

[01:22:25] Over whom ever they're playing to just get this six feet. I think he'll he'll make that mistake Normally you'll do that when the team was really he did it with Jimmy Jeanne the Super Bowl where's like That I believe kiddo was wide open on a third and two

[01:22:45] And I don't think that was the missed touchdown pass No, it was the interception Kiddo was wide open on like a third and two and he threw it to the left And he got intercepted and I essentially how Kansas City wrapped up that Super Bowl

[01:23:03] My mind I'm like even you killed them with the run all the whole first half. I think there was so many or two on a yrs Russian Like it was like 160 yrs Russian in the first half. We've the first three quarters and in that moment

[01:23:14] You don't call the run plate. I think that will be there downfall because someone's going to play him play You just go out like Indianapolis You know, they're real quick before we move on Thoughts about Mike variable. This is the funny thing about Mike variable

[01:23:37] I chimed into a couple of podcasts that talk about you know, what's the presciences show Colin Coward heard first things first though I couple and then you and I have our conversation now so talk to my pops

[01:23:51] No one talked about artists myth getting fired and what's up? I'm probably very getting fired Like I haven't seen the second to get having to be true. Maybe maybe you hasn't been one more wrong I got fired on Thanksgiving

[01:24:04] Like we just had to get to the four miles from the job and they didn't pay him just in the basement of the state Yeah, it's like that episode of sign filled where George Custanza was supposed to have a job interview

[01:24:17] He had a job interview then the guy that was going to hire him or make the decision went on vacation So he just started showing up the work and like they gave him an office and everything like you know

[01:24:28] That's wrong Rivera right now, or that was wrong Rivera as far as Arthur Smith goes I I know but I'm a little shocked that author blank fire and him just because that doesn't seem like Arthur Blank doesn't seem like you know

[01:24:43] He's not a he's not Jerry Jones. He doesn't just fire you. Yeah, but like I said I've talked to you and I'm a fucking stand And I'm a fan of football I don't think he knew what he was doing right right right right

[01:24:59] It just not the evidence that didn't support that you knew how to get The best out of this week let her loan next year

[01:25:11] And I could be wrong. I could be little locked in because you know, I got the the towel get the hat and the jerseys I've been a fan since Since we got them bushest the first bushest president

[01:25:26] Since like the since this you know first Gulf war like I've been a fan for a long time But we've had conversations and I've talked about this with about many coaches Like I said we talk about stale we'll talk about Josh McDonald's

[01:25:41] Even to an extent John Grumm is like I Don't know if you can articulate what you if you know what you're doing or not And I think author Smith is sitting really good because like it was so many times throughout the year was like stop bench and ridder

[01:25:56] Figgar out of way to make it work with the highly touted you know quarterback we took in the third round and not the free age of guy we described in March The career back up just to keep just to take him out and put ridder back in

[01:26:14] What are you doing like you should just let them in there. I'd rather you ride and buy with ridder for 17 games and go 7 and 10 But have him grow

[01:26:23] Right, but you keep taking him in and out like I said well in that this is an algebra using a conversation just this whole week It's like this Man I got three sons a little daughter. I've changed the tire on a cargo for

[01:26:39] But say I've only done it once or twice And now we got to change the tire in a driveway And I'm standing over these two young men my two youngest sons. Most of some of the engineering brain he can figure it out what I'm going to help

[01:26:55] And the trying to figure out a change this tire. I'm like listen, I'm going to teach on this is a valuable skill you have to have but I really don't know

[01:27:03] All the new wants to change the entire trip or like articulated clearly to where they can hear what I have to say and be confident in that and then just go add going

[01:27:14] But I know what what the process looks like I know things you have to do to get the tire off But I don't know why I can't articulated like smoothly That's what I feel like all this myth and doesn't read his relationship was it was like

[01:27:29] I don't know if you're telling him or showing him on film When I call this deep pulse route This is why when he gets to hear you got to throw it

[01:27:42] Because and cover to this say like so if I'm doesn't read her and I'm sitting in the film session that you tell me like, listen if we get this cover for a look I want you to throw this route

[01:27:56] Look this way but don't this route because of x y z This is why it's going to work not because he's open I don't understand that piece if I'm doesn't read it because like I want to throw it to the open guy

[01:28:10] I don't know why you feel like he's open or he's a decoy in the check down is a bad idea I think he looks looks and hits the check down because I don't know if he knows or been explained This is why he should throw this route

[01:28:26] We talked about telephonic you tell a hynicky with throw it But he also will throw to the other team and or fumbly it wants to twice a game

[01:28:33] So so when if you talk to other Smith it's like if I can see that as a fan and even the fans that I read the comments on Facebook

[01:28:41] It's the same thing. It's not a matter of like oh he's an idiot, he's stupid, gloss a locker room like all that had perbley Is like, yeah, like is anyone gonna get better?

[01:28:52] Offensively I could be king's going to points while we always do this in games this team How can we can't do this is like the same questions A real owner GM would have it like oh why haven't we scored more than 35 points?

[01:29:05] We lost four or five teams that are picking in the top 10. We're at eight we got we lost the teams that are picking ahead of us Chicago has got 10 they've earned 10 So But we got to Arizona at four or five 10 of season in the top eight

[01:29:29] Just respectful but to back to Tennessee so variable Mike variable you know 54 and 45 as the Tennessee Titans coach Which I find to be impressive if we just look at the list of quarterbacks that he's trotted out there

[01:29:45] You know Ryan Tana Hill rookie will love us Malik Willis. I remember last year remember he He didn't want Malik Willis at all. Yeah, they played Kansas City. I think it was last season

[01:29:57] They play Kansas City or Sunday night 16 passes. Yeah my home was through 61 and they lost that game 17 to 14

[01:30:05] Yeah, you didn't want Malik Willis. Yeah, so I'm always advocated that if Bill Belichick were to get the boot from the way to that variable I felt would be the perfect replacement for him Absolutely worse replace

[01:30:20] I think you keep the culture you know and you get a better coach at this point No, I want to do it. I think it's bad for New England

[01:30:30] And I think it's bad for Mike Reble for him to try to coast New England if they get rid of Bob Belichick You don't want to be a lot of ballad of Jake you don't want to follow the legend. Why would have you bad for New England

[01:30:40] Maybe bad for New England because they're going to expect him to bring that championship pedigree that he He earned and garnered the fought for as a player They're going to want him to extrapolate that time that he had as a player and to his position as a coach

[01:30:56] But the roster doesn't fit Of course that transition so then he's going to get how many years how many users do you get With that because Maliki had a great roster in Tennessee he didn't put together great roster in Tennessee

[01:31:12] He's like he was 24 to nothing that arrowhead and an MC championship game Not at one him the Houston was up 20. Oh, that was the year before I was that was the show We laughed after we cast him 10 they were like that's what it was yeah

[01:31:33] So like that's some saying so it's you're going to because everyone's trying to attach a branch to Bill Balichick's coach and tree input of Regal's name on it and there was like, oh he's not in his coach entry

[01:31:46] He's a former player. It's the same thing like Teddy Rooskey had a job if I was a variable I'm going to loss Las Vegas I'm going to Los Angeles That's it

[01:32:05] Those those only two jobs. I'm going to even look in it if you want to be a coach some night going out Atlanta I mean, they have talent there

[01:32:15] But it's just something I mean maybe Atlanta. I'll say Atlanta story if had to pick three you know your dream sheet I go chargers Raiders Atlanta the Raiders would be second because I believe the players really want an 20 appears

[01:32:30] Well, Raver will be in a former player. I think you could bring that same kind of former player head coach energy to the locker room Where is you have guys like granny staley couldn't Autism couldn't they couldn't bring that that that moxie as a former player

[01:32:50] I think watching's a bad job I think Carolina's a bad job What's the other one because we have six right somebody else got fired Raiders So at three all season fire meets

[01:33:06] That was Atlanta Carolina Carolina chargers Raiders all Raiders and CZ and then watch the Atlanta and Tennessee Yeah, so Tennessee obviously wouldn't be option for him Yeah, so I don't know like I've always been of the opinion and this is just you know

[01:33:32] I guess the old school and me that hasn't adapted but good jobs and bad jobs Arrollative you can make a bad job a good job. You can make a good job a bad job

[01:33:45] You know the same way that we talk about like free agents, you know like why would why don't they consider to hawks or whatever You know it's like because Atlanta is not a good franchise and it's like yeah

[01:33:58] But if you put him next to try young, that's a good team You know what the good franchise and today drafted this kid at the equity they still ain't a good they still weren't a good franchise You know they just had him But that's the restaurant's perfect

[01:34:10] But that's what I'm saying though like so like a team like Washington, you know Under new ownership Daniel Snyder ownership my help and then you don't have a little bit of a buzz and talent. Yeah, got a little bit of talent So like all you need is

[01:34:27] I feel a coach that commands respect Because when I look at Romra Verra I think he had respect addition And there was always a get him two more years

[01:34:40] Yeah, and there was always a talk in reports about how he was changing the culture and you know like it was a better place to work But then you still got John at that allen coming out here talking about like y'all of sick of this shit

[01:34:56] Like you know I can't imagine a patriot player doing that you don't have a Maggi on the shredding it outside of help and they basically ostracize him

[01:35:03] That's different though he wasn't in the media talking about this is or at a press conference talking about I'm done with this. This has been going on too long, you know I don't listen I My oldest son when he played varsity football is here in high school

[01:35:20] It's about a seven minute drive from the high school parking lot to warwa If they lost the game I just kept playing my music I drive the warwa I walk in a warwa I get two hundred bucks for two dollars

[01:35:36] I come out a hand him the honey money opens it he takes one or two bites and then he started talking about the game It takes a while for guys to like be able to add these conversations right you can't run up on a guy

[01:35:50] Why he's selling the locker room Probably looking across at a guy who he feels like didn't give his all in the game that he's losing Right coach that walked by that didn't give his all is like what you think of the game

[01:36:03] I'm sick of this because he's like looking at he's looking at this dude. He's looking at you talk to a minute's car Or you do a zoom with him Monday morning

[01:36:15] The answer might be a little different like I said I didn't say anything to my son until he took that second bite of the honey butt Second bite we can have our conversation. I didn't say anything to him because I knew it was eating them up

[01:36:29] But you see these guys in the locker room is like oh yeah, I still terribly whatever whatever Yeah, that's not a bad job I think that's why I think it's time I know earlier this year you were talking about how you thought that

[01:36:44] Big Derrick was going to get fired You know, with the way things were going in Buffalo And Not 11 thing came on up. Yeah, I mean he granted he went way off kill through there, but something worked

[01:36:58] You know what I mean if he if they were to lost three out of four he would have been gone But that's the thing is that you need somebody

[01:37:05] It's something work or did they just are they just a good team to start a plan like regular football they're a good team that started playing regular football But they just needed to be re-centered. I think you know

[01:37:15] You still I think he's still not a franchise with these franchisees need is a two five You know said they need a damn they need a damn combo. They need somebody that will just tell the truth

[01:37:29] No matter who likes it or who doesn't they need somebody at their table. They need somebody at your table Yeah, you know, grown up. People will hold people accountable Yeah, like just in the especially in the management meetings

[01:37:40] I think like I'll use an example that I got from my former supervisor Marsella mora And he told me I was going to production work on a flight line. He said listen It's tough because I was new I was new to the career folks. I retrained late

[01:37:54] He's gonna be tough for you to earn like people's respect. But he's like ultimately If you're not in some kind of argument with leadership Being like the upper man's been a production once a week. You're not doing your job

[01:38:07] I was like what he was like there's no way they can see and he's like, you don't have to be a big argument Just they tell you to do something and you tell them no and this is why because you're out here

[01:38:20] So it's like if I got four four engine guys and I need Three of them to work one job minimum of three and at least one guy and they call and say hey, we need you to look at this

[01:38:33] A P on another jet and I need two guys to do that. I'm like only have four guys So I got these four guys on this one job because that takes a minute or three the one guy by himself is no good to me

[01:38:46] They're going to grind this out until lunch and then after lunch, but you can get to it. I'll move to guys over to this APU

[01:38:53] Because if you're not saying at least that and you're trying to pull two guys from there and getting the crew chiefs to stand ground What like and you trying to make all this up happen

[01:39:03] It was like you're never going to earn a respect that a guy doesn't align because they expect you to give them good direction Right, and I think sometimes as a coach you just got to be able to give good direction

[01:39:15] Some of these guys have been blessed with just having this these talented players like make racist on about a you know Josh Allen today He's one of the most physically imposing quarterbacks you have in the lead right now

[01:39:27] From just that the size B combination what he can do is like it should be easy to figure out how to make the offense successful when you have a guy with that kind of dynamic

[01:39:39] Where if you are a team like in the in that list guard the mission that fast that big is not strong So you really have to like get into the X as I know is like getting this fruit getting this play a call in

[01:39:53] Someone's got a lot of them why he throws it there why you throw it there like I need you. I need to know why this these routes

[01:40:01] These are going to options on this plate these who got those are the colors this is where you need to go with the ball this read number one is read number two If not tuck it get four yards of slide like that's the kind of information you need

[01:40:14] I think there's some coaches in the play. I'll say probably won't lose their jobs But they probably could have been on the first I still think Pittsburgh will probably entertain you idea. Boom enough of Tom when

[01:40:30] If they have a bunch of Yes men in the room and say You know You know He hasn't really got in the job. Yeah, he has lost he hasn't had losing season but they can have their negative team Because they could say that Super Bowl was

[01:40:46] There 15 years ago the height of like you know this what you're gonna get So yeah, I get that you know, but you know as I'm looking for it, but if he wants to go to chocolate city

[01:40:58] Okay, you know, but unless DC's called chocolate city which one's called chocolate city? Is it Len, right? No, I think DC is chocolate city DC and New Orleans. I've heard New Orleans called chocolate city as well

[01:41:12] Usually people call that land. I hear them call it the mecca. You know Okay, we'll take that you know, but yeah, so You know as we look out throughout the sports landscape

[01:41:25] February is almost here so what that means is the Super Bowl, but also the NBA trade deadline So there's lots of rumors flying around You know be in the summer

[01:41:38] Well, no, I'm gonna start with the stupidest one hired. Okay, so stupidest one hired was gold is state being the dark horse to land Zach Levine How does that stupid? I just don't see it like so one You know what do you mean but what does that mean?

[01:42:00] What does that do for you he's so you already got dudes that are old and injured? You know like CP3 Steph gets hurt a lot. You know he's been healthy this year

[01:42:10] Hopefully he stays that way, but he gets hurt a lot you got Dreyman and it now gets suspended You know you got Clay not being half of what clay used to be You don't you got a hundred bit coin in a deal to trade Dreyman

[01:42:26] So so added Levine to that team does what besides score points Like he's not a defender You know, he gets hurt just as often as Steph and those guys do you know how these do just hurt so much playing

[01:42:40] But I'm not trying to be like an asshole, but it's like How you how you lost all tissue man, lots of soft tissue. How do you miss his six weeks in basketball without falling?

[01:42:49] And when I look at the bulls the bulls are better without him. You know record wise You know to me so like he hasn't want to be there since 2022

[01:42:58] Yeah, I don't know why they have it moved to be yet. I just don't think of what it's been moved him I just don't think gold estate or law sangelists

[01:43:06] You know would be the place as far as that they've been in rumors to get him for a couple years like if if I were trying to if I was trying to push Zach Levine 2018 I'd get him some culture

[01:43:20] Well, you got culture where's your NBA culture saying it's on the culture man The heat would he culture the problem with the heat they use everybody to make this culture work on a floor in order to get Zach Levine got the give up

[01:43:35] You have to give up guys and Levine doesn't do what they do when he replaces them But he also adds an element that They don't necessarily have you know because Jimmy Butler could score But I would necessarily define him as a shooter or knockdown shooter, you know

[01:43:55] Three I think it's like a mug like these league leaders and points and then like that You know about a 15% and 3.10 Bam is under five under size five You know so when I look at it Levine would make you a little quicker

[01:44:12] You know to take advantage of your lack of stature You know he'll knock down some shots as long as you don't have I would imagine maybe you give up Tala hero But you might be able to keep dunking Robasin

[01:44:26] That's the thing is like for some reason I remember when Tala hero was was this Point of interest in trades last year Yeah, they were like no one wants Tala hero Like people act as if every guy that's on a trading block has a play great defense

[01:44:41] No, this guy's even team that plays zero defense Right get her good defensive strategist on your staff and have him or her Designed years I understand why Portland did one Kala hero they already got affedy signings they were gonna draft school

[01:44:58] They already got shaded sharp that they drafted last year So I understand why Portland didn't know that's working out You know I mean it wasn't gonna work out of thick on Tala hero

[01:45:09] No, no like I say my macelips he like the the flagship for that kind of tree success right and I've heard Don't say marry to the nicks. I've heard that recently I've like ever in articles. It's like when you type in trade rumors You get the lakers

[01:45:28] And Brian went her so like there's no viable There's no trade value in the players that they have Rob Polink is she really be like on a hot seat. He's like Everyone thinks he's done a great job

[01:45:41] Except for you and I you and I have had this conversation because we have a few liquor guys shout out the black Adam He's a real big on point. They he was trying to get you have bad players

[01:45:52] I just think that the league they don't have the pieces that right the league that they're playing And so in my mind like you have a but you have a bad team It's like if you are Like if you were Drafting the AU basketball team

[01:46:08] You got a bunch of dudes could play four and five they can be great post players but when I wish you ball hammer Where's yours? What's your guys who just a score like where's your guy? It comes off the bench that just gives you energy and buckets

[01:46:22] Where's your guy? It comes off the bench that that Plays your deep place defense is like they have a bunch of guys that all should be on the bench Of teams directly to what the league and they try to make them starters because they have 80 in the brunt

[01:46:37] Do you have a bunch of dudes like you have a bunch of guys that have you don't have anyone who gives you the same efficiency and aggressiveness and and just confidence as like a Jamal Crawford Well that's like last year when I know these are game games

[01:46:52] I read it on six maven but it's like you know when JR's move comes to the game what is going to be You know what shump came in the game what was going to be

[01:47:00] You know like now like the clippers and guys when they bring rust enough to bench You know what is going to be Lou Williams grab no picking out of these great examples, but What that's like having had anything like that for years when LeBron scored the 30

[01:47:14] And game four against the nuggets and you know LeBron fans will go and nuts and I'm like y'all know this thing on last right Like yeah, thank you. We need like 38 something like that because when he gets tired who's going to hit the shots

[01:47:27] And then there was another game in that series maybe game three where The Lakers came out in the first half of which is hitting everything You know to me it was like yo, you know

[01:47:36] This is not sustainable like you know to me like they got a hot street going on but they don't have one dude that I would like

[01:47:44] Baby backs Christie this year, but I don't see dude. It's not a guy. It's not a guy. It's a shame that I would take if I'm making a treat Like I'd probably I'd take I'd take the phone call from San Antonio if I'm Chicago

[01:48:00] About some of their young players versus the call from all San Jose for exactly yeah if I'm at Lanna I'm taking the call from I mean I don't think okay sees going to make a move and they definitely

[01:48:15] I don't think they should. I don't think they should but if they were from the make a move I'll take the clippers phone call Like I don't know what the clippers gonna want to offer, but I like I'm skipping I'm ignoring Rob Plenica's call

[01:48:31] If I were okay, yeah nothing for me if you'd like give me a d that none for me if I was saying press D I don't think I would make a move If I were tempted to make a move if I was Sam Presti

[01:48:46] There are two players that come to mind So one would be Lori Markin and Just to get another shooter especially a big shooter next to chat You know make the defense think about something how they're going to defend us

[01:49:03] In the other day, I was thinking about it was Went to a car or from Orlando he's been injured this year But the reason I like him is because he brings rebounds because Okay, see is like 22nd in the league and rebounded

[01:49:17] So that's gonna be their downfall outside of their youth once we get to the playoffs So check it out and this is something remember from all this podcast with the john team hurry It's put on my article

[01:49:30] Spurs interested and bring it back to john t-marry and the first Twitter They was like some guy named tree Kirby. I don't know who he is just he was like the john t-marriage of the spurs he hates those guys

[01:49:44] So that's what we say have big people just kind of like they just kind of forget that like you If you go make a trade no one's gonna make a trade with the makers because they have the brawman of team and they

[01:49:58] Know that how much the media wants it to happen no matter how much people wanted to happen. It's not gonna happen The lakers had an opportunity and I talked to you about this two years ago 2022

[01:50:12] They could have moved AD and gotten some pieces around LaBron because you don't I don't need a six 11 guy That has to score a 30 if I can play center if I get three Two or three guys that are six seven six eight

[01:50:32] That can play to wing and I can bring in just because they had the kid Thomas Brian I think he was on a team at least last season yeah, cuz like what the way the game is played I don't need a dynamic Postcat I

[01:50:49] Don't need what Anthony Davis gives me If I can get something else if you are a team like Trying to like if you're the mix and You had Randall 80 and Bronson just if the money worked out to where it has that's high went

[01:51:06] You'd be good to go like I can I can live with that because I can tell Julia's listen Just keep working on a jump shot we got 80 down low Like I got Bronson handling the ball. I could make that move

[01:51:19] If you compare you know KD and AD or some role players either should be ill and booker That would work because The thing with the lakers is that they're relying on AD and LaBron and they're right let me LaBron to be

[01:51:38] As effective and young as a dean. He's like I am not Right and that and that's the problem so I would have taken I would have taken some tree I would have taken some calls and I said it same thing last year That's your only piece

[01:51:52] Even LaBron being as great as he is he is not your trade piece with any team right Not when he's at retirement age if you don't know my Andy looking at Bronia apparently

[01:52:04] What is cool? You can get the other one you can think young version or you wait a couple of years and you get Bryce But I'm not making a trade for LaBron now. This is like

[01:52:15] Best case in the early even if you place two more years he's gonna play two more years at 40 and 41 It's it's not it's that's not the game even like even though I think he's an athletic freaking The money is put in his body your stuff

[01:52:32] That's why he's slid out of the way you know, oh If this is not like an antile of Bron or I think he's over the hill it was just factually like he you can't continue to keep up his 2018 Expectation your 2018 expectation of him with a guy is in 2024

[01:52:53] through 2025 to 26 so you can't make a trade. I can make a trade for AD and hopefully get to other years Well if it was a couple years ago when I suggested it you would probably got three or four

[01:53:05] Why is it Pascal C.O.com in Atlanta right now? I'll give you that answer He was almost in Sacramento Apparently the Dallas Mavericks are now in trade rumors To get second 29 year old versatile wing yeah

[01:53:32] I think exactly with Dallas needs and I don't want to like bring back to You know the linkers, but that's the kind of player they could have got if they would have moved They'd be a couple years ago

[01:53:42] Zach Levine Zach Levine like I just I'm just not understanding how I don't know staying you and I had these conversations We probably had his conversation 12 18 months ago about moving Levine moving A.B. Not signing Zion Like

[01:54:01] What's going on in these in these rooms sit a point where's like There we have a lot of it. We'll have a conversation about it. Well I think a lot of the

[01:54:10] Zion because he has lower extremity injuries and he eats too much. Well I think a lot of it bulls down to three four So you know you got two five Which leaves three quarters? Yeah, so so the problem is is that I think GMs and

[01:54:30] Owners maybe not owners but GMs they care too much about with the public things or they care about the reaction or The criticism that's going to come with a move or decision so I we used all he's talking about this

[01:54:43] with LeBron these a lot of these branch houses have hand cuff themselves and He had a certain power where if you traded him or tried to trade him because he had a no trade clause too

[01:54:58] But if you tried to trade him you would be known as the GM that traded LeBron Yeah, but what that being said there was success that accompanied his presence and there was also

[01:55:10] The devastation after he left the fallout of the afternoon nuclear bomb was going to be devastating But the island was still going to be there You're gonna be you know surviving for a while it was it was definitely gonna be destructive And the aftermath, but

[01:55:27] There the only like the only teams with him did that like I think the jazz tried it with the go bear and that they've the dawn of Immortal trade but I didn't really pan out

[01:55:38] Dallas when they went got carry everyone was like why that didn't seem like it didn't seem like a move They needed to make but It's like you all you're the NBA You are it's 30 of you It's not what Ross instead of the marino rosin like it's 30

[01:56:00] Grand chances is like yeah, it's cool to be like if I'm the 17th rank NBA franchise as a GM I'm like it's also an NBA I'm still I still got 20,000 people any year for 41 home games

[01:56:16] We have these young players like I got this coach as a visionary let's go play ball You like I say you only have six to seven teams every year to start the year off as viable

[01:56:28] I will say six teams that are viable championship threats and then one team ascends this year's Minnesota Maybe can sprinkle a little bit okay see but okay see has been showing you

[01:56:40] Last couple years like okay they could be coming you know, they could be on something right the same way Memphis was showing you we could be on something and then It worked out for them last year this year

[01:56:52] I was mentioning now the injury doesn't work out if the avi was him I wouldn't make any moves But there's that team that will make a move These teams that are like losing There are the teams that make the moves and then

[01:57:06] When it's time to try to keep you guy they don't stay is like how you train in a way Other assets we had here You know I'm not sure like who who motivates whom to get these things done

[01:57:18] I heard something and I don't know how I feel about it because in one vein it makes sense but then again it doesn't I heard somebody propose Kyle Kuzba to the sixers for For Tobias and I don't know how I feel about it

[01:57:42] I don't know if you give it up I mean I would imagine if they got Tobias they would just buy them out anyway, but Um Yeah, I just don't know like it just doesn't like when I say it

[01:57:59] I'm like yeah, I can see the energy that Kuzba can bring them But then at the same time it's like but I don't know Kuzba needs the ball a lot too Kuzba is a bit like a taller lighter version of Jordan pool

[01:58:13] Like he's not like known for being like a cerebral player. You just right I think Jordan Clark soon was probably a better player in LA that they probably should have kept

[01:58:23] Because that's the key plays a little bit more and into the confines of basketball. Yeah, congrats got his first triple double last week Yeah, I just think that Kuzba as one of those guys is just like

[01:58:33] He just plays because he's tall. He's good. He's a good player. He's leveled at a guy But he just plays a soul. Same thing with Jordan pool is like watching you're stuck with that

[01:58:41] Because every single time the trade deadline came around you felt as if you had to make a move Good teams don't always make moves Right They make good free agent moves and then maybe they make a good buy out here. I'll allow what the self-dex Did the yet

[01:58:59] Blake, oh no Brooklyn did the buy out to give Blake and then Awesome's like let's let's get this guy and see if he can give us seven in nine minutes again Who as bad teams will trade for Jordan pool? There was no reason for the wizards to

[01:59:14] Getting the bed will go and stay and trade for Jordan pool. There's got to be something Nothing about what he put on film said, you know, trade him here But that's what the bad teams do because they want to be on a marquee

[01:59:25] There's got to be a team out there that wanted to bring Andrew with his off their bench, right? Well, I wouldn't want to get in bed with going state because it's like They are the more esteemed franchise whatever game you're dealing with

[01:59:41] But once again, it's like I need this move to be beneficial to me in two years Is Andrew Wiggins gonna be beneficial to you in two years? Just depends on where he goes. I guess he's still young

[01:59:55] How young is young because he was supposed to be in that one pick you to win you out The same year as a beat right when Yeah, they would then school together Yeah Because it'd be didn't play into NCAA The old nut that come off the bench

[02:00:11] I mean he is 28 But it's he had come off the bench guy I don't think he got a choice at this point So who's making that deal? Is going to stay gonna make another team better and the team out west? No, it's gonna be some team like Washington

[02:00:28] Me too Maybe they could get C.O.C.O Toronto is trying to move off of talented players and start over I don't think they're trying to bring it guys who have won championships I think they're trying to bring it guys probably 25 and under

[02:00:46] Well, I think that matters if you're talking about a star or like yeah, they're not trying to bring it's Staffers somebody but what's up on Wiggins? He was the fourth one Yeah, but his Wiggins what option is he in Toronto? Still like third

[02:00:59] Third but third starts because they got what they got our our J-Berry now they got Emmanuel quickly now they got Shruder You know so he could still be fourth you know bouche

[02:01:11] I think that's how you say it yeah that's what I'm saying so was like I'm not sure and I don't think that's enough if I'm Toronto

[02:01:21] Like I give you up I give up my 29 year old all-star starter to get a 28 year old guy that comes out the bench Wiggins Wiggins one of Camiga or moody So I mean I got that from both the bench

[02:01:38] Yeah, and another pick that's probably from Serbia that won't be in the league until it's I guess what I'm saying so it was like the the NBA trades NBA trades basically just Well, that's based almost same you better off like trading air in the back

[02:01:52] You know give you this bag of air for this bag of air. I actually like this I actually like to see I'll come to Sacramento but

[02:02:01] Sacramento didn't want to give up Chris Murray which I understand you know, but but looking at Dallas you know they got what jaded hearty Clea you know There's a name that's all the tip of my tongue right now and I can't think of it right now

[02:02:17] Not hard away I would say I had it in my note here. Oh, yeah, well as hard away hard away hardy Clea You know why not You keep Grant Williams Yeah, I'm pretty sure they probably have to because of the country being assigned

[02:02:36] Well, there's like a certain you'd be treated you probably you because this Grant Williams is sign of contract There's all seasons so you probably yeah, I think it's like 60 days. It's 60 days or something like that

[02:02:46] So he could be traded uh I think December 15th is usually the date When you first sign of contract with a team yeah He weren't least or he just would it yeah at least that's what it is at least that's what it is okay

[02:02:59] Yeah, it might be a Maybe he's like a like if you sign a gap that was already on your team maybe if you sign a free agents fight it's probably a little bit more Probably a little bit more nuanced in that

[02:03:12] But yeah, I like I like to see I'll come to Dallas I like it if you don't have to give up too much but they have well if they have some guys that You know say Dallas might not have the tree and motor pull off such a deal

[02:03:27] Why me every buddy like to tell the rumor everybody likes these picks from three years later you don't have it Like remember the lifetweekers they were like we give it up for our 2029

[02:03:38] 2027 and 2029 like that was the argument they had it's like that sounds ridiculous, but if I'm in the room Like if I'm in the room and I'm what rock Lincoln I'm Associate Vice President of Player Personnel some title like that and phone was on speaker

[02:03:58] Brooklyn calls and says hey we want to give you Kyrie for Russ This pick this pick and cash He's like let me think about he hangs up the phone if I'm gonna room them like What are we waiting on like oh?

[02:04:16] I don't want to give up those 2027 and 29 picks I'm like have the high school basketball players are going into like The G League already and going to others professionally just like when that dropped in a lot of guys out of college as is most guys getting form players

[02:04:34] While we hold none He's conversation with what when did he get so he played So this is the 2022 all season correct because he went for Kyrie the Kyrie the Lakers tree Because he played in Brooklyn starting last year and he got treated Dallas in the middle of year

[02:04:53] So we're talking about picks from five years and seven years later And they were holding onto them yeah Just keep it up and I got it and I got it. You were trying to get rid of They trying to prepare for that post-labron devastation

[02:05:10] And I get it but in that point that's what you trade A D well, that's where that's where you have your two five in the room And you just say look man

[02:05:19] No bullshit no cameras. I go tell nobody what you said there ain't no phones in here like do you think that labron in A D can lead when us a championship Yes or no if the answer is no then okay Can this player if we add this player

[02:05:36] Will that make us a content? Yes, make the deal if the answer is no don't make the deal and we all understand why because as fans I don't feel that added Kyrie What have won the Lakers of championship last year Those those two season

[02:05:54] I don't think that would have won them a championship. Well, yeah, I guess it would have been the offseason So he was started the year that you would have started last year yeah in LA so we're wrong

[02:06:04] I still think they beat Denver I still think never beats them so like But you got to be honest with yourself like can we win a championship like or is the conference finals good enough? Can we make a coffee?

[02:06:16] Because I had to play 82 games for all of that Can we get the 50 wins because that's that I think that's the bench So then you but then you add a kind of injury

[02:06:26] Is five we ought to come into it is five teams out at 30 that really with the player personnel in the coach and Coach that they have are going to buy for those those final two spots. That's it that's five And you'll get me one

[02:06:41] a two more that just surprise you a lot or land over this year KC Houston like you're just 11 18 and 17 they're not gonna surprise you in the playoff in okay seeing a top five out west Orlando in the top five in the east that's those of your shots

[02:07:02] But your five teams you already set them up And when the season started you knew like Boston Philly Denver Milwaukee In Miami because of just history just what they do yeah This is what they do they get to the conference final somehow and into the NBA finals

[02:07:23] And then you sprinkle in okay seeing Orlando That's it that's what you have Every year you have five teams and a couple little a couple little extra bodies that sneak in there So if you're not one of those bodies you shouldn't even be thinking about a tree

[02:07:39] They can your championship contender you should be thinking like does this trade make us a better basketball team right because bringing to see I come Extend our defense to where now I can guard Tatum Angelant for at the same time

[02:07:55] Without always having to play zone all right last question for me All right, and then you know You don't be I can't be a GM and I am a I don't want to call it Panicger but I get real itchy about

[02:08:17] You leave it me and I'll get nothing for you Correct, you know, so like the whole game little thing important And how that could have played out you know if he was closer to his contract year

[02:08:29] Yeah, he was locked in right right next month. Yeah, so this guy is a free agent After next season And I have to figure out Is he going to likely resound with me So if I'm the Cleveland Cavaliers should I consider trading don't of initial yes

[02:08:51] I would say yes because he's young He has the pop he has the marquee value that you need he has a talent he can be you could put him in any line up and Feel like okay, we Benefit it

[02:09:10] From this tree like say that I have me like Miami just that I love they yeah I would take him I'll take him over Levine and you have the added bonus of them dealing with his next contract You get that off your books

[02:09:27] How these deals and you could do it preemptively because usually where these teams mess up Is we get to the point where you're asked out well yeah the player ask out or

[02:09:36] There's all the rumors that he wants out like I don't think we've heard that yet like I've heard Vits and pieces of people say that He won't resign there but but like he himself hasn't

[02:09:47] Done anything publicly to make you think he doesn't want to be there so like I Like to do I will call the team and that's desperate because a lot of trade deals are just teams that it's just desperate to make a move

[02:10:00] For the sake of making move we talked about that last week. Yeah, I would have called the next up Which got And it's not a knock on the players just it's a matter of If you're not gonna be in championship contention

[02:10:15] Why have a guy my roster on paying 45 to 50 million dollars a year? Right I can just lower the ticket price and I'm cleaning and get people to come here So yeah, yeah, so like like we getting no free agents in here

[02:10:29] United in free agents unless you unless you get the team you build like like it just feels I feel somewhat bad for NBA franchise is simply because the expectation of championships It's just that's the biggest

[02:10:46] Expectation that fans have on teams with football we watch Thursday night football last season and it was all for every week We'll watch Chicago versus the jets in the rain I sat in an NFL stadium in the rain in December watching the Falcons and jet score 21

[02:11:07] Total points one touchdown was scored in front of me and they threw like three penalties on another place So it was like Three four flags another place so like but I sat there me and a bunch other fans

[02:11:19] The jet fans and they're in the midst of their terrible season we were there But I'm not sure that you're gonna get You would get a lot of fans and Brooklyn

[02:11:31] If they were had if their season was the equivalent of terrible as the jet season was this year with their star player An injured early and not winning and benching guys and getting rid of coaches in the turmoil

[02:11:43] I'm not sure you sell out those 41 home games. Yo people say that I don't love my city since I don't want to move back there. I sat out in 12 degree weather Watching the ravens play the bit of soda bikers and they didn't even my team

[02:12:03] You know said like it was literally I was home on leave When I was a young airman It was the first Monday night football game in Baltimore since the ravens had came back It was like I got to be there

[02:12:17] But it was 12 degrees like you don't have a soul like I've said to rain down games in mid-life stadium Like two games rain a whole time twice On the top of the thing that's in the Falcons here every week both times

[02:12:29] fans will put up with just like you know January 29 The wizard's are coming down here You know I was looking on I got nine dollar tickets You probably will be above the scoreboard, but it's still counts. No, that was actually there was some 24 dollar tickets

[02:12:46] That were still pretty decent you know CD, but you know, but I was just saying like you know Both of those teams are so bad and don't even matter if they load manage

[02:12:58] They you know like show me each a $18 a pop corn. Yeah, it's just all the same thing Chicken strips, but yeah, so I think that I think that's the outcome will definitely be moved at some point

[02:13:10] I'm not I know the Hawks won't that thing to see how come move is a lot like the The dawn of a Mitchell move. I think it's a lot the outcome is a pretty good I'm finished here though, but I was saying like just getting

[02:13:23] Just realizing that you know I got to get something for this play right right We're not you know we we had our championship room with Kawai So it's the mass that's back and maybe you make the move, but a lot of it star players are getting old

[02:13:37] So somebody's not guys kind of stuff up and be like, yo, I'm next But they keep leaving all these guys in a glee forever like bring them up You're not gonna have Katie the brown Bradley bill don't have him book her yeah, like you know like

[02:13:52] If you're wondering what having bookers are Why not bring your guys up and let them pull let these guys play let it be entertaining Everyone is operating as if they have a real shot yet don't the reason Denver had a shot because

[02:14:10] Jamal Murray and Yokech have been together for years and they complement each other perfectly and Yokech is a Unicorn dynamic basketball player you didn't draft one of those if you drafted a guy in the last four years

[02:14:23] He is not Yokech every NBA tape should have one or two Local guys on their glee affiliate You know just the pull them up for a random Sunday and March and have a local spotlight You know like just that simple and who knows?

[02:14:43] You know, maybe they go off of 15 points or something yeah, because like you guys aren't that good Like most of you 23 of the teams and the this the NBA Have no shot no shot of making these guys fine if I could make a bet

[02:15:01] A parlay of 25 teams that won't make these won't make the conference finals I'll put $1,000 on it they'll never set that up because y'all hear that Lakers that Phoenix son just the logical said y'all liberty out here Yeah, they're not making it is just

[02:15:18] It's not what you you don't have what you need to make it as far as they want to go right The bronch actually he would hate this bike as if he were hurt it because it seems like I'm always shouldn't on his team I'm just realistic

[02:15:31] Yeah, you should on the team. I should on him It all you're just I don't know It just yeah, and I don't think he's I think he's a greatest I think he's probably no greatest player like people've ever seen

[02:15:40] I think what he does what he's done on the basketball court makes like it just It's hadn't showed us above everyone else the problem is it For so many years that kind of so it would happen with Kobe as well. Well, like that talent was mismanaged

[02:15:55] We seen it with patch on my homes. It's like we see it with Luca Your talent is being mismanaged by the pieces that they're deliberately put around you like that don't work

[02:16:05] It's not like they don't pan out they just flat out don't fit what you do well for your team and then they all falls on you But you know it's never never as team is probably built perfectly around what you'll get to us

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