CLOSING OUT

[00:00:01] We are here for Game 5, Boston currently up by 11. Can they close it out and bring home number 18 to piss off Laker Nation? I don't know how to feel, but I know I gotta get this

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[00:01:33] grandma about it. Yes. So get it off my chest. I told Mr. Lodge I was gonna make this quick, you know what I mean? But while I'm here, I might as well. I know we're gonna record Thursday as well, but I just wanna say congratulations to Major League

[00:01:49] Baseball for doing the right thing by playing this game at Rick Woodfield, you know, Cardinals and Giants home of the Birmingham Barons of the Negro League. So I appreciate that. You know, it's the day after Juneteenth that it will

[00:02:03] be going down. But nonetheless, I love it. But that is not my get it off my chest. This is what got me worked up this week as I was listening to a podcast. They just happen to be doing some trivia. And this particular

[00:02:18] trivia question was or this these categories were about the Detroit Pistons. And one of the questions was, here are four nicknames. Tell me which one is James is not James Wiseman's one of his nicknames. So they go

[00:02:38] down the list and I'm sitting there listening on my phone and one of the nicknames they said was the big ticket. And I was sitting there and I said, that's gotta be the answer. He can't be the big ticket. That can't be the

[00:02:52] right answer. So as they're going on and on and on and on, you know, they give the correct answer, which was not the big ticket, which forced me to pause. I stopped in the middle of traffic. You don't say it as I was

[00:03:08] driving to my son's school because you know he had track practice. I stopped in the middle of the road and I said, James, why's it ain't no fucking big ticket? There's only one big ticket and his name is Kevin Garnett. I don't want to

[00:03:24] hear anything about James Wiseman again. Expel him from the league for this blast for me. We got no need for his kind around these parts. But one be original for two. If you're going to name yourself the big tick.

[00:03:40] So look, the White Howard did the whole way. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. He actually calls himself the big ticket. Yes. Even his Instagram handle. I thought I misunderstood you. I thought you said it ended up not being

[00:03:52] the big ticket. That's why I didn't know. It was the big. He actually called himself the big ticket. The most that's a very original nickname. That's sorry. I'm just, I'm listening off my chest now.

[00:04:04] I guess, yo, I, you, it's like when movies, you have all the words at your disposal, but yet they'll make a movie and then they'll use like the same name or, uh, like the same song title. Like go to your

[00:04:21] Apple music or your Spotify and type in all I need as a song title, man. It's like 50 different artists that made a song called all I need, but my bad. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're not the big ticket.

[00:04:34] Yeah. You're not the big ticket. Like you're not even a big receipt. Like you're not even the half ticket stuff. You don't even take a stub. You know what James Wiseman is? James Wiseman is the NBA version of Carolina path or tickets. That's what he wants in ticket.

[00:04:50] That's what he 45 sent tickets. That's what he is. He should be, he should be, if I'm two five, he should be 45. He a urinating public ticket. Yeah. On this man like that, you know, that's dumb. Like, yo, when,

[00:05:05] when the white Howard was doing the whole Superman thing, like we see Shaq, but it ain't like, it's not like it's black and white footage of Shaq. It's Shaq, Shaq diesel, right? The emblem of his escalate. Like, but at least the white Howard was flying through the air

[00:05:20] and doing things. But like, what is James Wiseman doing? He could have been green Lantern. Like he could have been somebody else that flew. James, why would it should be getting my water right now as we were having this conversation? Like, come on now. But anyway,

[00:05:34] that was mine. Get it off my chest. Yeah, that's comical. I thought I thought I'd like I said, I misheard you because I thought you say ended up not being the big ticket. That's why I didn't react. So I was

[00:05:45] looking at poor Zingas getting tossed around. And I looked up. It's such a like, and on top of that, the big ticket is a very original nickname. It is. It's not like big man or big man on the block. It's like

[00:06:01] the name he had the perfect nickname in front of him. The wise man. Right there. That's it. That's it. He dressed up like Jesus in the manger. And that's it. That's that's that's it right there or no game James. You know, that's two nicknames for you right there.

[00:06:21] Listen, we need to be hired by somebody in one of these professional organizations. You're not doing it right. Speaking of professional organizations might get off my chest is some legend in the in the sports media worlds. None

[00:06:37] other than Mr. Stephen A Smith and stuff. I'm not going to knock the man's credentials. I'm just getting tired of him just being you know, stoking the flames all the time. And this comment comes from a Twitter at Twitter.

[00:06:54] Hold on real quick, real quick. Sorry, sorry, sorry, real quick. You know how you just said I'm watching poor Ziggas getting tossed around? Yeah. Doris Burke says, if Caitlin Clark got pushed like that, we'd be talking about it for a week. I like doors.

[00:07:12] All right, my bad, my bad. Proceed. Yeah, so Stephen A Smith, he sent out a tweet and regard or a quote in regards to LeBron James and JJ rex podcast. And all this said was I had a lot of black coaches hit me

[00:07:33] up saying they weren't happy that the podcast even happy and I'm paraphrasing but like, I'm like, why? What's the context? What was the conversation? Can LeBron James not have a podcast with a white basketball player because they're friends or that it feel like they were already

[00:07:50] grooming him to be the coach? Why did they make these black coaches mad? And then why as a person with this kind of platform who's already kind of getting flamed for your conversations surrounding Caitlin Clark and the black women at WNBA and that correspondence back and forth,

[00:08:06] why would you dig deeper into this, this, this, the foster this this race conversation out of nowhere? Right? What's the big deal with him having a podcast like Pat Beverly has a podcast with the white guy. No one thinks Pat Beth is

[00:08:22] trying to groom that guy to be a coach. You know, Paul George has a podcast with an actor. And I think the other guy is probably Hispanic. But no one's thinking like he's grooming these guys to be executives for the Clippers. Why

[00:08:37] is it that LeBron's having a podcast strictly about all he's talking about is basketball, basketball plays. He's like, the whole conversation is I want to talk about basketball plays, because a lot of people don't know what it is. And I think it's a great breakdown. I

[00:08:51] think it's probably a better model for Stephen A because his daytime first take show, it has almost zero merit. Like there's no quality comp, there's very few quality conversations that come out of that show. Whereas him and Shannon could do like their own podcast version. And he can

[00:09:10] just talk about the NFL defenses. That's a very intriguing conversation. So instead of taking shots, and then using these anonymous names, because you're not going to drop any names, you're not going to drop any executives that you up, you're just going to get this

[00:09:23] message is approved, like look out interconnected I am to all the sports world like executives hit me up, these people hate me up, everybody reaches out to me because I'm Stephen A Smith, instead of using that platform to come up with some general good ideas, you run

[00:09:35] back the same regurgitated ideas all day long on first take the Bron is who's gonna be your next coach Dallas is Jerry Jones is that contract is my homes to go Tom Brady to go and little Caitlin Clark mix in there now like you keep regurgitating these same

[00:09:50] things is bothering me like my gird is acting up with the regurgitation that you guys keep spitting out every single day on ESPN. Yeah, I mean, so it's like, you can find ways to get inspired by other things, you don't have to hate on everything that isn't co

[00:10:07] signed by you. And at this point, it just feels like he just wants to be the catalyst for all things sports talk. Well, have a sports conversation, know who's on the team. Because there's been plenty of time you've been talking about guys who got

[00:10:20] traded. And it wasn't like, it wasn't even like trades that no one heard about like we knew Jaylen rigger wasn't on the Vikings when you're talking about him being on the bike on the way we got traded. We knew all that you knew all this

[00:10:31] stuff who played for the team and play for the team he supported got traded Utah by all these boys like stop bloviating one of your own words and actually have some real digestible content because right now it is absolute garbage. And

[00:10:48] every single time you try to bake the race war black people don't fall for it. All right, we not falling apart. We're not weak as people who need a clamor on every single race bait topic is called race bait for a reason. Don't bite the

[00:11:01] hook. Don't let this guy's bullshit as statement catch you off guard. You want to start a podcast with your white friend, do it. You want to get your white friend a job at your company, do it. You want to hang out with your

[00:11:12] black family, do it. You want to marry a white woman, do it. Stop letting these people tell you that because you're black, we are struggling and we got to stick together even though no one's sticking out any hands to pull you up these corporate ladders. No one's

[00:11:25] pulling people up. I mean, it's not a lot of black people to show that he respects. He just cusses all the women out that he brings on and keeps Molly up there standing at the camera doing nothing. But it's neither my

[00:11:35] business, neither here nor there. So shut out with all the nonsense. Stop trying to race bait every single conversation. Have a real authentic conversation. Get off of Twitter. Read something. Do your own research. Start just regurgitating stuff that you get from other people.

[00:11:50] Yeah, that made me think about my scrolling this weekend and why I tried to avoid X's as much as I can because Caitlin Clark was asked as she brought her up, she was asked about how people are using her name and the

[00:12:08] way people are talking online fuel in this war with Angel Reese and everything. And so the first clip that came out was her saying like, I can't control what people do. Like, you know, I can't get caught up in that XYZ, whatever, whatever, whatever. So then

[00:12:23] everybody all down the X was like, why didn't she denounce racism? Why didn't she say this? And why didn't she say that? And then like four hours later, a new clip from the very same interview came out where she was praising Angel and talking about how

[00:12:42] like she doesn't support any of that, you know, like XYZ. And it's like they get y'all every time. Like, you know, to be either watch the whole interview or don't comment on it, read the transcript or don't comment on it. Also, it's not a 20 something year old girl's

[00:13:02] job to denounce racism for America. That too. Come on now. Like it's not her job to be the advocate for black people is that her job to be the anti racist focal point for American sports. It's not her job, her job. She just got this job two months

[00:13:20] ago. Well, that's like the girl on the you know, whatever it was she she was saying the N word whatever it was. And then she got like allegedly she was gonna get this conservative media job or whatever it was. And I tell people all the time

[00:13:33] like yo, that's the same way Trump got elected because y'all keep paying him attention. Don't feed the trolls. That's it. Don't feed the trolls. That's it. You know what I'm saying? But here we are Boston up 46 to 33. We got about 620 left in the first half. You know, I

[00:13:52] think Kyrie angered the cult again. You know, like I love how Kyrie goes in and out of like, yeah, you know, I buried this thing with Boston. Like there's no heart feelings. I thought they would be a little bit louder, blah, blah, blah. Oh, yeah, but

[00:14:08] Boston is a cult. And if you don't accept it, it was like he had his Rick James Chappelle show moment and then he comes out here and he's two for seven right now. Yeah, you know, fan basis are cold. So if you read the definition of a cult

[00:14:25] or sex that took a couple of religious studies classes throughout my academic journey. And they're pretty much the same. Yeah, the definition is pretty close. Boston is only up 11 now. Yeah, Luca Luca is two for seven as well. You know, for those keeping

[00:14:42] track at home, you know, so combined for 14 years from the two stars, poor Zingas was out here getting rag dolled earlier. Jason Tatum is being aggressive when he's not taking step back threes. He's got 13 right now with seven assists for rebounds. You know, he's

[00:15:00] wait, try to still find him. Yeah, you might try to build his finals MVP. Yeah. You know, I think they wouldn't care. What you know, the thing about it is Jason Tatum, we don't have a problem with him showing up in the

[00:15:12] first half is the second half that you know, second half. Was that legal? What Kyrie just said? I don't think it was, but you know, I have to see it again. The the people behind reacted like as if it wasn't legal. Ooh, Gaffer. Oh, yeah.

[00:15:28] I'm on his heels. Missed it. Yeah. So Boston time out with 453 left 48 to 39. See if they're going to show the replay right here. No. But yeah, so so like I think Boston closes this out tonight. You know, coming into tonight, I had Jalen Brown as the finals MVP.

[00:15:50] I've pretty much had Jalen Brown as finals MVP since game one. So we'll see what happens tonight. I don't want to overreact and just be like Tatum had the better game or the best game in the closeout game. So give him the MVP.

[00:16:04] I'll just look at it once it happens and we'll go from there. Well, you got to keep in mind like the thing that happened today is the greatest thing to happen to sports. So if people were on the fence between Brown and yeah, we talk about this as

[00:16:17] F is a we'll talk about that when we get closer to it. But we know it's going to be a conversation no matter what, because with bass, if basketball inside NBA season ends tonight. That gives us. Baseball, which doesn't really generate a lot of sports debate.

[00:16:36] You have hockey, which for some reason, I don't know, it's sports to beat. Is it just focus on sports with black players like majority black players? Because this is like it's focused on popular sports. It's just popularity. Because baseball is America's pastime, but I guess it doesn't

[00:16:53] really have like a I think they play so many games with baseball that is just a matter of when it's really when did the playoffs start when it comes to baseball like late August, September? I think people get into the all star break.

[00:17:07] You get to the all star break if if more guys were hitting you know, 20, 25, 30 home runs before the all star game like, you know, in that late 90s that that's so some McGuire. I think that really brought the audience in and I don't know what they could do.

[00:17:25] I know most of the stadiums have short porches and like left and right field to try to kind of maybe sneak a couple home runs. And I think right field Yankee Stadium is like three hundred fourteen feet back today when Babe Ru played

[00:17:37] it was like it was like three hundred eighty feet to get a home run and left and right field like four twenty to centerfield. It's crazy that the size of these fields that these guys played on back in the black and white era.

[00:17:49] But yet you got hockey's and you know their game five is tomorrow and attend Stanley Cup finals. They were photos up three oh same similar situation as Dallas when Dallas is down three oh three and then they come out and blow Boston out Edmonton blue for now one

[00:18:06] eight the one and it's like you know just like Tim Hardaway Jr. Like what he had five threes in that little stretch in the fourth quarter. Yeah he made it to the finals MVP ladder. So it's like does he have anything left. It's similar like you got

[00:18:20] your eight goals would you rather go with four to one and game four and then win four to one and gave five you know save some of those goals because they were talking about Boston with Boston be able to come back. It's like once you get your

[00:18:35] ass kicked that bad. It's like I think they knew when they sat down and be on the fourth quarter this this is right. Like they I think they were allowed they were able to process it before they even showered. It's like but it's like

[00:18:51] Dallas they lost a couple of games late you know game two you had the push in the back game three you had the comeback and then look again filed out. So I think that was like an emotional just let down and then they got they ramped up

[00:19:06] for game four Boston got tossed so bad in game four that they're like all right. We don't we're not even watch the film is like what's the point. Right. So Tim Hardaway's Julius 3 just don't mean anything. We even watch that film. Well I mean at the end of

[00:19:21] the day Boston and we said this from the beginning Boston is the better team. You know I picked Boston instead I think we both picked Boston in six but I even say OK. I thought it is I thought it could be a sweep. Yeah.

[00:19:34] So I picked them in six and I said I can see it going five. And the only reason I picked five was because I was given respect to Kyrie and Luca you know just from the standpoint of Kyrie's been here before we saw him

[00:19:46] perform on the stage back when he was in Cleveland. Lucas good enough to get you a game so their powers combined can get you one game. But Boston why would you step back. Oh Gaffer was in the paint. So Boston Boston is in that

[00:20:03] mode of the longer they let Dallas hang around because I've been hearing people and people are just contenting. They're talking about you know Dallas in seven and you know if anybody can come back it's going to be Dallas absolutely fraudulent first of all.

[00:20:20] You know what I mean this this ends tonight first and foremost. I think people are saying Dallas is seven they're just guessing. Yeah they're just saying it so they could be right. And then that way when if it happens it's like hey I called that.

[00:20:33] And it was like I would have been impressed if you called it from the beginning of the finals because now you're just talking. You know but as I looked at this series there's nothing that Dallas has done outside of Friday night that I can point to

[00:20:48] and say that's the trick. That's the secret. That's the way you go about it. I lost it just has too many options. I think game game three had a real when they when they started that comeback when they were down 21 and then they came back.

[00:21:08] I thought Dallas had a real shot but you burn a lot of energy on those comebacks and it was a few possessions when it was 93 90 and also still up three and they couldn't score and it was a couple of times that they got into the

[00:21:22] basket by Al Horford off the dribble. Oh yeah I'm like a little bit behind you. Yeah and that's the thing with role players you say typically they play better at home. I think Boston's treated their role players with a little bit more. I want to say respect

[00:21:41] but I think they allow them early involved them earlier like throughout the year and I think it just basically what you're doing now isn't a I need I need a game from you Sam Howe like he called him Cole Howser the actor from you know

[00:21:58] some well it's like it's like last year when the Warriors played the Lakers and Lonnie Walker came off the bench and had the great game and it was like you got to stay ready and it's like yeah I mean let him get some run in December that

[00:22:14] way when the playoffs come around you know that these guys can do this but that just comes down to coaching and have and having the right kind of team. I don't know if every team is built this way like we talk about like I like to have

[00:22:29] these conversations with myself on the nights we record to think about that competition I would bring up and I read something with Kendrick Perkins saying that whatever coach the Lakers bring in they got to be championship ready because you have LeBron and AD and it's like

[00:22:47] people got to stop saying that as if that's enough. LeBron and AD aren't your quintessential game changers in the NBA anymore based off the way the NBA is played. They are still two of the top 15 top 20 players in the league and any given night

[00:23:05] you can get both of them giving you 30 with little to no resistance because the way AD plays is hard for your typical seven footed a guard him and then if you try to put a smaller guy on who's athletic he could still shoot the jump shot and

[00:23:19] he's extended his range and every once in a while I think he puts up a three not often. LeBron is just LeBron he could do what he does but if you have a bunch of other guys around him who who can't shoot doesn't work. If Boston has

[00:23:31] the Lakers supporting cast with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum they don't they're not in the NBA finals either because those guys don't compliment what you get from Brown and Tatum. What does FBU ready even mean? Like you know what I mean? Like so like if I

[00:23:45] if I peel this back right let's just say all right we want to go hire Tyronn Lue that was eight years ago. Let me go hire Doc Rivers that was 16 years ago. I don't think it's like you you you you have your mindset has to be

[00:24:02] a successful season is a championship. Oh I don't know. I think most people you know operate that way. No not most teams Detroit Pistons no not teams but I'm saying like as a coach I think most coaches operate that way. No you you you know who you have

[00:24:23] and what your staff looks like and what you're like you know what it looks like and you know every team isn't built to win a championship like Frank Vogel new Phoenix wasn't because they don't have a point guard. Right which he had been asking for that

[00:24:35] they never provided him. Yeah damn that white. Oh he ate all of that parquet. Oh oh all of it. He ate all of it and stayed on the floor. You know what I mean? But but yeah so like he lose a tooth in the pursuit of a chair.

[00:24:53] Yeah he checked he checked for it you know but but yeah I think that like to that point that's where teams you have to evaluate yourselves in real terms like don't bring feelings to a fact fight. So so you have to look at your landscape and say

[00:25:11] this is where we are. This is where we want to be. This is how far we are from where we want to be. So like you know we used to do like feedbacks or whatever and then you would do your initial. This is what I expect of you.

[00:25:25] They do your midterm. Hey this is what I've seen so far to get to this level. This is what I need to see or maintain what you're doing or hey pull some of that back because you know what I mean? Like you are doing

[00:25:40] what I need you to do but your volunteer too much. You know I need you focus on school and I get that but I need you to get better at your job. And I think that's where these teams are. So if you're a team

[00:25:51] like the Wizards for example you go hey we're at the bottom of the NBA. Our best players are Jordan Poole and Kyle Kuzma. So we have a long way to get to the top of the mountain. But how we get there is we accumulate draft picks.

[00:26:09] You know we get the number two pick in the draft. Usually you hope for a better draft but you know but you got the number two pick in the draft. You draft somebody that you think is going to be your future because you drafted Kula Bali last year

[00:26:23] and then when we get to the All-Star game next season you go where are we now versus where we were when this process started. Whereas the Lakers are basically teams like the Lakers are basically like we got LeBron in AD and then you fast forward three four months.

[00:26:40] We got LeBron in AD. There ain't no reason that we can't do this. You get to the playoffs you get swept or you lose in five. We got LeBron in AD and then it's just the continuous cycle that never goes anywhere. Because they like I said to you

[00:26:57] probably two seasons ago that if I'm running the Lakers if I can't keep this team together I'm trading LeBron I'm trading AD. Uh huh. And at the time I didn't think that it was time to trade AD but you know what I mean

[00:27:14] but we're past that time now. Yeah and that's the thing and that's what it that's the problem with some LeBron got to go to is this is what the Lakers are. The Lakers are a TV show and they need to keep people coming to the live recordings

[00:27:31] of that TV show. That's it. They have made nothing but poor move after poor move poor draft picker like at some point. So if they traded LeBron in AD you don't think people will come? I don't think you can sell that Tuesday night ticket for $20,000 without LeBron. Okay.

[00:27:51] That war that warriors that war the Warriors Lakers game on NBA Tuesday night prime time game that court side ticket that goes for $20,000 in January. You don't sell that with AD Reeves Delo Vanderbilt you know in a Rui. You need LeBron because other than that

[00:28:16] like the team isn't a successful team even with LeBron on it is like they're a playoff team they're really good team but like I said I don't think every team needs to be a championship team but I think they decided some years back that it was more important

[00:28:31] to just keep people in the seats because if they were really in the championships they would have moved AD or they would have kept everybody together after the 2020 team. Whatever financial stretch that was because you had a short break because the finals were in October.

[00:28:49] I think the new season started in December. It was I think it was going to be a shortened season. You could have and Tatum oh he's feeling it. You could have had you could have had that same team and you maximize the money.

[00:29:05] You push the money to the limit because it's like we got LeBron he got a chip that we didn't think he was going to get and he got it. Now we got to switch up how we do things. We got to just go for it again next year.

[00:29:20] They didn't they moved all the pieces. They didn't resign guys. And the next thing you know, the coaches fired a year or so later. You bring in Darwin Ham. That doesn't work. So we got an 18 point game. Lucas at the free throw line

[00:29:35] with four seconds left in the first half. Yeah, like his knee always bleeding. You know, say that man hurt man. You know, he just toughened through it. I think he leaves it out there just to make it look like he's playing harder than he is. That's OK.

[00:29:50] I'm pretty sure he's playing. I mean, that's a tough, tough game to play. Not for 21. Oh, oh, you're ahead of me. But I'm going to get I'm act like I'm act like I didn't hear you paint picture from half court. And he did it again.

[00:30:11] You know what he think was straight up. I was literally thinking four seconds. Yeah, I think another three. I was I literally thought it right before you said it was free girls. We said he had four seconds. I was like. Yeah, so when I was on

[00:30:24] cut the game earlier, when I was when I was on cups in the game earlier, you know, shout out to the crew, you know, said Dallas, a Dakota by resident state styrofoam and I was in the back of Richard and you know, lethal.

[00:30:39] But but you know, but like, no, I said Boston by 17 tonight. That was my pick. So you're thinking about 17. Yeah, because Friday night was an anomaly. Like that was just Dallas getting one off for their crowd. You know, said Jason Tatum with 16,

[00:30:54] not assist four boards at the half. Jalen Brown with 15, four boards to assist Drew Holiday, 11 and six. And then on the Dallas side, you got PJ Washington to one for four with two points. You got oh, actually, you know what? Let me ask you this.

[00:31:15] Who do you think is Dallas's leading scorer right now? Green. It is actually Derek Jones, Jr. Wow. Yeah. Ten points on four, six. Our guy green is three for three. All three is nine points. Luca is four of ten, nine points, six boards for sis, four of ten.

[00:31:36] Kyrie is two of eight, five points, five assists. So in this, in as we talk about, how do you build teams? I'm no expert in how to build teams. My only what I have is I watch seasons play out and then we use the end result

[00:31:53] and then you and I, we have conversations that kind of break it backwards. Like I can't. I'm not definitive in my position. Like if you hire me on your staff, I can pick you a great team. But I can look and see as like you said,

[00:32:06] the whole the Air Force feedback model. You give the feedback to begin that you're listed and that was called the EPB. But it's called the EPR, listed performance report. You give that evaluation early on and then six months down the line. So a quarter away through your season,

[00:32:25] you know who can play, you know what your rotation is, you know who you can trust, you know who's ready for the moment, you know who practices are, you know who's ready. If you have to put them on the bench

[00:32:35] for a couple of games, they come back in. I think you kind of have all this information. I think the contracts to some of these teams are signing these guys to probably locking them in a little bit more. But we have teams like like Boston. Boston's role players,

[00:32:52] if they had the hat that the the Dallas role players are having right now, you got Derek Jones, he would 10 doesn't normally score that many points. Gaffer, I think I've seen him get a couple of dunks. Lively has a couple of dunks.

[00:33:04] Green is three for three from three. PJ Washington just had a travel call, so he's not playing that great. With Dallas in the second half, with Kyrie and Luke and I playing that great in the first half, those two guys have to push the issue for themselves

[00:33:20] to get going. So even though these role players are giving you look looking at like 30 points between the three, three or four of them, they can't get you 30 points in the second half. And Luke and Kyrie do their thing because it's all based off

[00:33:36] what Luke and Kyrie do for them, whereas they're quite Sam Houser and Pritchard could get you nine more points without Jason Tatum or Jalen Brown being involved at all. Yeah. How far down the list did they get to end up on Julius Randall?

[00:33:53] How many players did you go through to be like, you know, we're going to invite Julius Randall to this game? Listen, they had Josh Hart last week. They have Paul George at some point this in this area. They had MB. You went from MB to Julius Randall.

[00:34:12] As far as like basketball, like MB talking about the whole East was hurt, including myself, Doug, you always hurt. And the fact that you brought up that you were hurt, like it's like you taking a shot at Boston as if they're not beating

[00:34:26] the team that made it through the Western juggernaut. And that's the problem that I'm going to have with these with the conversations like, oh, the East was weak. Cool. But the West was strong and a fifth seed came out of the West. So that's how deep they were.

[00:34:38] It was so deep that a fifth seed came out and a two seed beat the defending champions who were three. And you saw all this stuff is great. But you give Paul George that side eye like. Are you coming?

[00:34:51] You coming? I saw a meme, and I don't know if it's how accurate it was, was as a picture from decent from far away. And it was Nick Nurse and LeBron eating lunch or some sky rise. Oh, yes, all that. Yeah.

[00:35:05] I don't know. I don't know if it was in Philly, if they were in New York. But I mean, I don't know what city they were in, but, you know, they were eating lunch. I don't know if that's legal. Hey, they're just like colleagues, I guess.

[00:35:16] You know, I mean, with these somebody as long as I'm free rules, you never know. So I'm not sure I can't see. I don't know. I don't I don't see. I foresee that many changes coming up the NBA next year.

[00:35:34] I think people are going to look at the Boston models and say, can we keep you got to get you got to get lucky? Well, and being brought it up and being brought up, the great point of because we've because we've been talking about how Boston needs

[00:35:49] to keep it together as long as possible. You know, Jason Tatum is eligible for five years, 315 this year. But the new CBA rules in these new aprons, you know, so like is Boston. I mean, obviously, Boston will retool as long as you keep the core.

[00:36:06] You're fine. You know what I mean? But has anybody been tampering with Clay Thompson? Yo, like I said, just just from the outside and seeing like this happened with multiple, you know, players before, I would have to say that I think one of the play,

[00:36:29] I think management sent the message through one of the players, Steph or Draymond, probably Steph. Probably got the message. Hey, man. I don't think we can recycle it. Or can you talk to him? And see what he's willing to do, because the only reason for him

[00:36:51] to remove pictures of him and Steph, with championship trophies, because like no matter what, you still want a championship. So regardless of who's in the picture, you're in the picture with a championship trophy that you you were a vital piece in winning.

[00:37:08] So I don't know why you remove that picture unless somehow the beef or the message came from Steph. You know, I mean, like Steph went to him like, listen, man, won't you just take a little bit less and stay? And he's like, Mark, you take less.

[00:37:25] You don't want to buy them a 60 million. And there, but that's different. I'm Steph. I'm found as MVP. You know, so sometimes like, you know, like I think relationships, they just they run it, they run their course and this might be it.

[00:37:40] And with all the people who are leaving, you know, they're they're jam left last year to new crop of people. They said is it's like when a player gets traded from one team to another. It's like they don't love you. Like, it's not they're here for business now.

[00:37:55] Like that person doesn't know that person doesn't know who you are. Yeah, Draymond Draymond just said it was hilarious. You know, is how his reaction was to it. Like, but I talked about this a year ago, right?

[00:38:13] Or two years ago, I told you, like the empire is over. Like once Golden State won that title in 2022, that was the last dance for them. You know, and as I look at the way going forward,

[00:38:26] as far as I'm concerned, both of them can go clay and Draymond. You know what I mean? Because because that's again, a lot of it is you just built this new stadium. Listen, I get as long as I got stuff, I don't need them.

[00:38:41] A lot of lotting my my sports circle, a lot of guys I talk to. Everybody's really into the championship and the ingredients for a championship and the expectation for championship. I'm a little bit more of a realist when it comes to this.

[00:38:58] And I think more important than championships is checks, checks coming in from commercials, checks coming in from advertisers, because to put your name on the former Staples Center costs more than to put your name on wherever Rena the Charlotte Hornets play.

[00:39:23] So in order to continue to be in that tax bracket, some of these teams will sacrifice the concept and the concept of winning simply just to keep guys together, just to keep people coming to the games. You're not moving stuff, even if going to state

[00:39:43] move stuff and they get a couple of good young pieces back and Steve Kerr is coaching them up. That sounds like a great idea. Or you lose all your veterans and your Greg Popovich down in San Antonio for the last five years. Popovich is still a good coach.

[00:40:01] His record doesn't tell you that, but he's still a good coach. But you had your run. You had your dynasty. You had your legends. And it just fizzled out because you're good for so many years. You don't get a good crop of these.

[00:40:17] You have to be good enough to get those kind of players because Tony Parker was an all time talent. Now there was Janobly Duncan was. But Duncan had limitations. He wasn't just athletically gifted. He just was a smart basketball player who was able to be coached.

[00:40:33] Pop moving to the bench. So Kawhi, this was young Kawhi before it was 23, 24, 26 point Kawhi. It was 14 point Kawhi. So in order to put all these pieces together and to beat the team that he did for the length, I'll say it again, Tony Parker,

[00:40:50] Monty Nobly, Duncan, all these Boris, all these essentially mediocre guys who are on his team that he led the championships. They were a better version of the the oh, for Detroit Pistons for two decades, essentially. Yeah, they were talented. Tell me what he did in Charlotte, Mike.

[00:41:12] I'm not saying he's everybody in NBA has talent. I'm talking about the talent team that they beat. They beat the Lakers. They beat Dallas a lot. They were being OKC. They were they beat the Miami Heedles with LeBron and T-Weights.

[00:41:27] They beat some of the top talented players in the league with guys that weren't on their talent tier. I'm not saying that players in the NBA aren't talented. Every single guy in the league is so talented, so fast, so athletic.

[00:41:42] But compared to the upper echelon talent, that top one percent of the league, those top four guys, four or five guys. San Antonio never had one of those guys. But we saw what it looks like when you don't have them. Steve Kerr, if Steve Kerr keeps coaching, eventually

[00:41:58] Clay Dreymon and Steph will be gone and they'll have Wiggins is going to be gone as well. So he's going to have to start over the new crop. He's going to be in the same boat as Poppity, you know, if he if he sticks around.

[00:42:09] So are you signed that three year extension, making him the highest coach paid coach in history? Are you willing to just keep coaching because you love coaching? Or do you want it takes more? And Rudy Gaze, Rudy Gaze always seemed like he's always

[00:42:25] Gaze never won a playoff series. And the only team to win a playoff series and Mike, you know, said, you know, we was rocking earlier, but this is where I do my heel turn. You know, said don't come in here with the DeMar DeRozan stuff.

[00:42:40] We don't do that on sports reports as well. You keep DeMar DeRozan over there, or as I like to call them, the front, the frozen light, you know, if you need to break up, I like that guy. Yeah, pops. I mean, Popovich had 20 seasons where.

[00:42:59] Yeah, I yeah, he's talented. He can do stuff. The masses, the mass is the nasty. I mean, that the nasty is legit. But sometimes it's like they say if you if you're here a little long, if you live long enough, you see yourself become the villain.

[00:43:18] Right. It might. It's that point for the Golden State Warriors. And I think Clay is the first domino. And once again, I think I think having what I like to say, having an OG in your corner, somebody that you can call when you might be overreacting

[00:43:36] is always a great like for me, it's my pops. If I think I'm out of bounds on something or if I'm feeling loopy about whatever, I call my pops, he'll bring me back. Like I called him once when I was a young airman.

[00:43:48] And I thought he was going like cussing me out. He was like, listen, man, you can't chase that girl around the world. I was like, what? He's like, what's going to chase around the world? If she goes to go, you'd be all right.

[00:44:00] I was like, oh, so this kind of because I was an adult, like just like I was like 20, 20, 21. I was like my first adult conversation that I had with him. He's like, you can't chase around the world.

[00:44:10] Getting your plan, going to the point to figure it out when you back. OK, so like some clay might need somebody like, listen, man, don't worry about the social media stuff. Eventually, this was not going to last. The money was going to run out.

[00:44:23] Right. The world was going to run dry. They can't just keep hemorrhaging money because what you're going to do? You got there, you take a bunch of money and you got to play 40 minutes and you guys in the 37 and 45 is that which is that

[00:44:35] how you want to ride at the end of your dynasty or do you want to say, you know what, we had a great run, which they did. They had an all time run. They had all time talent. They're associated with some of the like a big collapse

[00:44:47] where they cost someone a bit collapse and they basically broke up OKC for four or five years and then their own team. But instead, they pulled the guy from OKC to the team and they went on three more finals runs.

[00:45:00] And if Clay doesn't get hit by Danny Green on that dunk attempt, maybe they beat Toronto and they, you know, they win three in a row. So. You had a good run. And then on top of that, you got you got to revisit that in 2022.

[00:45:13] So you've had the best possible career you could have had with that organization. It was bound to come to an end. So is there a team that you could think of that clay could help? And I'm not necessarily talking about when a championship, but, you know,

[00:45:28] but just a team that he can help increase their chances of getting further into playoffs. Dallas, if I don't know, I don't know what, like I said, without doing the research on the money or what his money is projected to be or how his contract works out.

[00:45:46] I say Dallas, because Dallas needs as we as we talk about it, Dallas needs a guy that you can put the ball in his hands and Luca and Kyrie can watch even though it's going to be a catch and shoot.

[00:45:59] But, you know, you get the ball to him. Obviously, you would say the Lakers or I wouldn't say the Lakers. You got to say it just because the Lakers need three points. We go and say the Lakers just to say the Lakers know like

[00:46:16] and if he in that case, let's keep it on if he's really pissed, if he's really truly pissed and he's going to make an emotional decision on this on his movement and he's really pissed. We see all the time in the NFL when guys don't get their money.

[00:46:28] They go to a team in conference for less money like Saquon Barkley probably could have gone to like Tennessee and gotten that money and maybe a little more. But he's like, you know what? New York, you want to pay me? I'm going to Philly.

[00:46:42] So, oh, you guys don't want to pay me. I'm going down. I'm going down to five or four or five or the Pacific Coast Highway. And I'm going on to L.A. And I'm a shoot threes for my dad's former teams. Yeah.

[00:46:56] But like I said, I don't think it's a good move. Like, listen, by no means my suggestions are saying that these are good moves is saying like if he wants to play for any kind of contender,

[00:47:06] he has to be he's going to have to stay out there and be a spot. You know, well, I got I got to be a brandy. I got three teams in mind that you did. And they got it.

[00:47:15] And I think the teams have to be older because I don't think a young team because he doesn't I don't think he gives you enough. Like, we're a young team. I'm a bring up a young team. I got three. I got four teams.

[00:47:26] I got four teams like Gordon Heyward to OKC. He can give you, you know, 10, 15 minutes and he'll give you the hustle stuff without. That's one. That's one. But I don't know what Clay gives you outside of like just

[00:47:43] just being a threat to score and his and his link defensively. But I don't know if he's like, if it's at this point in his career, is he going to be a guy that's willing just to come off the bench and play defense? All right.

[00:47:56] I got four teams for you. All right. All right. Orlando. You know, right? Yeah, just just a young team, just to have a vet in the room. You know, just somebody. No, not the Knicks. I don't like the Knicks. Just to have somebody around that can mentor

[00:48:13] and bring a certain credibility and respect into the locker room. Milwaukee, I think, would be a good place for him, a team that still has championship aspirations, though I still think they're a little misguided, but a team that has championship aspirations and adding another shooter

[00:48:35] for the young team outside of Orlando. I was actually thinking OKC, you know, from that same mentorship standpoint, but given OKC, another shooter to open up the floor for SGA and J. Will to do their work. And then the last team that I was going to say,

[00:48:54] because, you know, as you're having conversations like this, you got to reach a little bit. OK, you got to reach a little bit. But I can see him being six man coming off the bench in Cleveland. See this for me, I look at his age

[00:49:16] and what he's used to doing, what he's used to getting. And when he had to come off the bench for a team that drafted him, that he won a lot of games with, he was not a happy camper. He was pouting.

[00:49:33] He was messing up even though he was still give you the same. His numbers are the same in the twenty twenty two, twenty one, twenty two season, the championship playoff run and this past season. Like his numbers are basically the same as they were. Right. Oh, yes.

[00:49:50] Look at the second day. Yeah, twenty five point game. Yeah. So it was so that's what he's giving you. So I don't know if he I don't know if he goes to another team that isn't championship built just to come off the bench.

[00:50:03] I would like I see him would go. Maybe if if Denver says, you know what? We're going to go for the junior and they'll get some pieces for Michael Porter Jr. And then he slides into Denver is going to have to be a team

[00:50:17] that either old coach like a coach has tenured with a couple of veterans. I actually did think about Denver, too, because I think Denver's going to overreact, you know, as you like to say, not play the young talent that they have and look for a quick band aid.

[00:50:36] I mean, I've I heard a couple of suggestions about potentially moving. That's not a file. Yeah, that's not a file. Move in Michael Porter Jr. Because it's appealing six, ten, six, eleven, shoot the three. And I think on another team, he might reaction potentially.

[00:50:58] But you can't move Jamal Murray. He and he said what was there? You talked about their bench before we predicted their playoff run is like, how do you boast to the bench? Somebody's got to go. You can hold on to all your cards all the time.

[00:51:15] Like you got a plan like you know, you got to spend money to make money. There's this thing called free agency. That's all the that's all the rage. Yeah, but the free agency is going to cost you like cost you money.

[00:51:26] You you're not getting role quality role players, bench guys and free agency. Like the money is too much. Like you're not going to sign a guy three year, 45 million and have come off the bench. Like I'm giving you 15 million dollars.

[00:51:42] So look at it, the free agents right now, right? Yeah, they could bring in Kyle Anderson. Slow mo. Yeah, they can bring in slow mo. Was he doing for you in Denver? He provides another ball handler. He does shoot the three. He then to stretch the floor.

[00:52:00] You don't need that, though. You already got that. He gets in Yolkidge's way. You already got that. You already got three point shooting. You can bring in. Now, not Nicholas Pattoon. I don't like that one too. Yeah, too old. Was my bridges asking for these days?

[00:52:20] Is his head right? Because I know he was set up to get a lot of money before he got in his trouble. And then I don't think he really bounced back ever since. But that's the point.

[00:52:28] You can get him on a budget, you know, is where I was going with that. What about, you know, bring back Bruce Brown? You know, they're already probably going to lose KCP because it sounds like KCP is going to get Bruce Brown money from somebody

[00:52:43] because he's a free agent as well. Um, yeah, very much out there. A shooter like Tory Craig. That's what I'm saying. You got to keep your core happy. So you keep so maybe you keep Michael Porter, Junior and then you build around that.

[00:52:58] But something's got to go for you in order for you to fill it out. Or you actually use some of your G League players and bring them up and see if they want to get rid of. I don't want to get rid of Aaron Gordon.

[00:53:08] Now, you can't get rid of Aaron going because like Aaron Gordon doesn't mean as much to other teams. So if I'm if you're if you're calling me saying you're off me, Aaron Gordon, it's like, well, what does Aaron Gordon do for my team?

[00:53:20] He doesn't really shoot the three that well. It doesn't play it off the dribble. He's more of a an energy guy that fits well with Yokes because that's the way Yokes plays like Aaron Gordon. Probably would have been he'd have been good for this Dallas team.

[00:53:32] Oh, yeah, he would have killed it on his day. He would have been good for Dallas, but Dallas would only give up lively to get you a guy like Gordon, right? Because you can't have lively Gaffer then Gordon. Right. Three guys on the same thing all year long.

[00:53:46] So I don't know. We'll have to see. But, you know, we were going to be slim pickings for a lot of these NBA teams. That's going to be rude awakening. All these hiring and firing that you're running out

[00:53:57] because you have you got Booker, Beale and Durant all on one team. A.D. and LeBron on a team. So some of your top 20 guys, they're all like paired up. Luca and Kyrie paired up. Yoke is your Murray paired up.

[00:54:13] So if you don't develop your own pair like Cleveland with Garland and Mitchell, instead of trying to figure out, you know, how do we keep this together? How do we keep this court because they have Jared Allen, Mowgli, Mitchell and Garland like that's a good solid court

[00:54:28] to build around, but instead they fired a coach. And now they're going to be moving those pieces. It just we talked about it a couple weeks ago. OK, but it's like if you you can simply look at the end of seasons

[00:54:39] for the last 10 years at all the teams that haven't really competed for championships. What were they doing wrong? A lot of them was frantic decisions at the coaching position, either quick hires of people who should have been higher

[00:54:53] or quick hooks for people who should be given longer terms or more chances. Cleveland does it every single time and most unsuccessful teams do that. So now you want to bring in a new coach. He's going to want to bring in his own guys.

[00:55:05] And then who do you get rid of? But then you can't if you don't fire the gym, you got to fire the coach. The players don't get along with the coach. You can get rid of coaching, your players when you have.

[00:55:15] You have a talent pool that every team doesn't have. Like you have a talent problem that like how the Phoenix owner said that 26 GMs would take our roster. No, no, no, no, no. With Cleveland, Cleveland, you might have 12 to 14 GMs. Like, you know, I'll take those four

[00:55:35] just those those four pieces right there and I can build around those four. Yeah, because they're just a skinny version of Minnesota. Yeah. Yeah. So with that being said, next week, you know, for the first time ever, the two day, I repeat, two day NBA draft,

[00:55:57] you know, so with that being said, since keeping this conversation going a little bit, you got a team out there with the number one draft pick. Correct. Does that make the Hawks more likely to trade one of or both of Trey Young and DeJonte Mary?

[00:56:20] If they can pay them both whatever the market says and get a good big man in the draft pick, then that's your that's your core that that's what you can run with. Like at some point, you got to stop hoping that you can build a team

[00:56:37] and actually just put brick and mortar together and build this thing out. Having two guys that dynamic Trey Young confidence through the roof, the way you can handle the ball, score the basket, shoot threes, shoot free throws, just just all around top notch basketball player to DeJonte Murray.

[00:56:56] Yes, he might be small for a two guard or you just have maybe just have Trey Young play the two and he plays the one. But bring in another draft pick. You got the number one picks, but you can presumably get a better player in the draft.

[00:57:10] And make it work. Stop making all these trades. Stop putting these guys in trade conversations every single time. Because all it's going to do is just throw the fabric of your team. All right, Boston, following over that three ball again. It's what they do.

[00:57:25] Yeah, so it looks like up until the last couple of days. Alexander Saar has been the leader in the clubhouse to be the number one draft pick to Atlanta. I've always said it should be Rosace Zachary Rosace,

[00:57:41] but I'll take them on Washington if Atlanta want to play these games. But lately, in the last couple of days, you know, the word on the street is Atlanta is in love with Donovan Klingon, who you might remember

[00:57:53] as you cause big man in the national title game going up against Zach Eany as the move. So I feel like if you do a move like that, you're probably trade down. This is this is you'll probably either trade down or

[00:58:08] one of those two players that I just mentioned has to go because you're taking a project to some degree. So like you're not you're not trading that pick to get a better player and you're not drafting the most NBA ready player, if you will, in that position.

[00:58:28] So I don't understand the movement of if I were them and you really like Klingon, you could probably get Klingon at five or six. If I if I'm Atlanta and somebody really wants the number one pick, I'm going to try to squeeze whatever I can

[00:58:46] for that number one pick and get some players that have been in the league for a couple of years. So whatever team comes calling, whether it's Detroit, I'll get as much talent as I can from whoever calls for number one pick,

[00:58:57] because you don't want to just make the pick just because you have it versus just using it as leverage. Right. You know, and I don't believe there's any player in the draft that they are saying is all world, all generational.

[00:59:13] So it's not like last year where San Antonio is not taking calls and number one pick. Right. Like you knew Wimby was going to be the player no matter what. I don't think that guy's in his draft.

[00:59:24] And if you can get if you can and if you can get someone that calls and says, hey, we want to make this move, hey, you know, the trick calls will give you Kate Cunningham and James Wiseman and, you know,

[00:59:37] our next three first round picks, whatever the case may be. Yeah, maybe you entertain that and that's like those two players, but something along those lines. I know there's a couple of guys that I have my eye on, obviously, like you said, not generational per se,

[00:59:53] but Steph Castle out of Yukon, you know, six, seven point guard going to be a hound on defense, you know, going to get up in you could be a 17 18 point of game guy, but nothing that's going to blow your socks off, you know,

[01:00:10] from the standpoint of, hey, we just got Vince Carter or even Tracy McGrady or somebody like that. I want to know where Zach Eaddy goes. Like I like him in OKC, you know, maybe Chicago, depending on, you know, what Chicago does with their draft picks,

[01:00:28] if they trade or do something along those lines. Obviously, I want to know where paper towel is going to end up because the word on the street is Dallas might like paper towel at 58. But you know, Rick Carlisle, head coach of the Indiana Pacers,

[01:00:42] seems to think paper towel. Yeah, paper towel are not brought paper towel. Yeah, paper towel. He named himself. Yeah, it's like I thought you said because he was soft. You know, say what is it? Thicker quilt to pick your up. You know, that's that's that's bounty.

[01:01:03] That's bounty. Wrong song. But Ronnie, you'll apply. Picker up or right there. You go. Yeah. I want to be by the assume what is one of them? One of them. But yeah, but Bronte, like Rick Carlisle,

[01:01:15] thinks he could go higher than that and even possibly late first round. I don't see that if he was six, seven, I would believe it. But the fact that he's where they have them at six, one six, six, one

[01:01:28] four, you know, so like I think we already saw Avery Bradley go in the first round. I don't need to see it again. You know, but I don't think anyone's going to reach form this two day drafting is Mike also for your Chicago Bulls.

[01:01:47] I was looking at Devin Carter, you know, out of Providence. You know, we'll see if they were to take him. I wonder how that fit will work next to Colby White. But the Colby White. But I think that's a good pick.

[01:02:01] You know, I think he's going to be one of the better players in this draft that and then, of course, you got Jalen Williams little brother, you know, Cody, who was being talked about as a potential top five pick.

[01:02:13] Yeah. You know, so there are players in this draft, dudes that I just don't know how many all stars there will be, but they'll be a bunch of good players. We used to get all stars at the top of the draft.

[01:02:26] And now it seems as if we're getting a lot of he reminds me of Mike Miller kind of picks. Yeah, I saw when I first started certain the draft about six months ago. Yeah, you said something to me.

[01:02:41] I was like, that's what I was trying to think back. Yeah, it was a booze Ellis. They were comparing to Mike Dunleavy and they had him going number three in the draft. And I was like, you can't pick Mike Dunleavy at number three.

[01:02:54] I think Mike was the first round pick, though he was. But I mean, like for all you people out there, I don't know if I should include you in this because you said some things in the past, but I'll spare you this time.

[01:03:06] All you people out there talking about how these players are more talented and all this kind of stuff. You can't tell me that Mike Dunleavy is going at number three and say that it's more talented. Just saying. Just saying. Yeah, it's it's

[01:03:22] there's this I've heard a lot of conversations between different, you know, former NBA players in their podcast and they're saying how the development of players is is not what it used to be. Like I said, Tom Brady said the same thing about quarterback. Yeah.

[01:03:37] What I think it is ultimately is that you're getting got you broke. You're getting so many videos and clips and you just I think we're oversaturated with amateur players to the point where you think the talent is watered down.

[01:03:55] It probably always is the level that is at, except now. The cream that rise to the top that we will see back in the 90s and early 2000s. Now everybody's on it. Every website has a rank. They're ranking kids in fourth grade.

[01:04:10] Now I saw something like the number one point garden of class of 20, 33, something like that. Yeah, class of 20, 32, number one ranked point garden, number one rate shooting garden, class of 20, 32 fourth graders. So I think it's I think we're just being inundated and just saturated with.

[01:04:37] I think so it looks like, oh, the talent isn't there, but really there's only a few slots in the NBA. College basketball has always had a bunch of teams. I mean, he says like how many 300, 363? I think it is. Teams that are eligible for the tournament.

[01:04:56] So you're not going to have 363 outstanding basketball teams. There's going to be a lot of players that aren't as good as your top. That happens in any organization that happens at your college. Like the person who graduated with a four point old GPA

[01:05:14] cum on some Ladi is not going to be this, you know, the guy who graduated to two point seven GPA. They both want to. I think the problem is that we see a bunch of six, ten dudes that like to shoot three pointers and, you know,

[01:05:31] dribble the ball a little bit and we just go there talented. You know what I mean? And it's like, OK, but he's shooting like 31 percent from the three or like, you know, like, yeah, he dribbles when there's nobody around him. But he can't necessarily go through traffic.

[01:05:49] Yes, you know, to pump fake and to dribble. Right. And that's where college basketball has screwed the pooch because like I'm good with one and done. I'm good with you don't even got to go to college because I don't want you to fake the funk anyway.

[01:06:06] You're going to be. But but but I think where we are is that everybody's ultimate goal is the NBA. And a lot of these guys come from underprivileged backgrounds. You know, they got miles that need to be fed. Yeah, I don't really think, you know, always.

[01:06:25] No, no, I didn't say always. I just said that most of these guys are in travel organizations. Most of these guys is so much money being spent. You're not getting the rec league kid that's getting it from the bottom. And yeah, but my my man got that.

[01:06:39] Man, you see, we've seen the Lonzo ballhouse. You get a lot of that. You get a lot of these guys that getting their money on social media, which Lonzo Duncan. Yeah, these guys like that whole get it up the mud.

[01:06:52] I'm trying to get my mom a new house story yet. Cut it out. It's this cat. That's why that's why I like to keep it a hundred. That's why it's a it's a lot of spoiled privileged kids who are playing basketball at all these camps.

[01:07:08] I'm not saying people aren't struggling, but it costs a lot to fly around this country playing basketball tournaments. So all these kids are five star recruits. They're not they're not hurting. Not all of them. And that's why they come in the league and they can't play

[01:07:23] worth a damn because they don't have any toughness on them. They get knocked around. The overall point I was trying to get to is that I just get round up and everybody don't get out the mud, man. You know, the point is that it's not the case.

[01:07:36] Without a point, I was trying to get to was that everybody sees the end goal. The end goal is I want to be in the NBA. So how can I get there in the quickest manner possible?

[01:07:48] So you have dudes like Reed Shepherd, you know, came out of Kentucky, shot 50 percent this season for three point, you know, but y'all lost in the first round to Oakland and a dude named Goldke Jack Goldke, who is getting tryouts now.

[01:08:06] But in that game, you went one for five or something along those lines. And now you're about to be a top five draft pick because you have a 41 inch vertical or 42 inch vertical. Yeah. And that's the problem is that people are like, hey,

[01:08:23] I want this guy that can jump. I want this guy that can run. I want this guy that can dribble. And I'm like, I just want to do that could play basketball. I want a dude that knows how to win.

[01:08:33] I want to do so when I look at somebody like, say, hypothetically, a Zach E. You know what I mean? Like, look, he's the basketball player. Like, look, I know that the game has changed and you got your Carl Anthony Towns, a kitty cat out here.

[01:08:51] You know what I mean? But this dude is seven three. I can't teach seven three, but I can teach him positioning. I can teach him where to be. And I saw a video that his his. Combined athleticism score essentially is better than Brooke Lopez. Like, yeah, and everybody.

[01:09:14] Yeah, well, coming into the combine, everybody. I was talking about this a couple of weeks ago. Coming into the combine, everybody said, oh, Donovan Klingon is going to blow him out the water as far as all these drills go.

[01:09:26] And I think he's two or three years older than Klingon. And ZD had the better combine and he had a little three point stroke. Yeah, like that's the thing. Like I I feel like the teams aren't building good basketball teams.

[01:09:44] They're building good, measurable teams like these guys can jump. Like I said, these guys can dribble. This guy likes to shoot threes. It's not a lot of if it was a bunch of six, 11 guys shooting 45 percent from three, I would think is changing.

[01:09:59] But really all it is just guys are shooting more. More big men are shooting and a few of them can make 30 percent like Brooke Lopez just started shooting the three. Sam Houser in and out. Dallas has gone cold. What is wrong with you, Luca?

[01:10:20] You have a few seconds behind you to see what he does. You're about to see what he does. Oh, yeah. He's tired. Yeah. So like that's what is like builds your team based off the GM and the coach's vision.

[01:10:36] Have the vision, not just, oh, we want to get this guy because he jumps really high. But see, there are some guys, there are some guys like Bob Carrington in this draft out of Pitt. You know, he's 18 years old, six, five, six, six,

[01:10:50] you know, can shoot it just like raw potential. I can understand why a team would draft him, but I would probably draft them in the second round, not the first. Because in my first round, I want somebody that can contribute. They don't have to contribute today.

[01:11:08] But at some point next year to Mr. Logical's point earlier, like, you know, about Denver even they picked they drafted Julian Strauther last year out of Gonzaga. I'm a big Julian Strauther guy. But they didn't play him. They didn't play him in these playoffs.

[01:11:24] Yeah, like why am I playing for guys? You're not putting on the floor. Right. And then so I was complaining about his lack of time during the playoffs. So next year when they make the playoffs again and play him.

[01:11:39] Next year is going to be his rookie playoff year. He might struggle. Whereas we could have got that out the way this year instead of playing Reggie Jackson. You know, said that's because I'm not sure who comes up with the vision for the team, because it's not all.

[01:11:55] I don't think it's all player development. I think it's all about, OK, how do we get tickets sold? How do we get people to see how do we get ESPN? How do we get how do we get on ESPN and TV?

[01:12:08] You know, what do we do when we need these kind of players? Ooh, Drew Holliday, Fonis MVP, all these rebounds. Well, you have people like. Oh, I can't even think of his name right now. Oh, Larry Brown. You have people like Larry Brown who wouldn't play

[01:12:23] or play rookies, you know what I mean? But that was back in the day where you can keep four veterans, four or five veterans on, you know, you're paying them pennies and you were still surviving as a, you know, your financial aspect of your team.

[01:12:39] But now you have to play the young guys. And I think I remember when it might have been this Jason Tatum draft, but it was the boy out of Kansas, Jackson. Oh, Josh Jackson. Josh Jackson. And I remember Jay Billis was given, you know, his synopsis

[01:12:58] after everyone got picked up or whatever. News like need to work on his jump shot. News of work on his jump shot. It was like four or five of the guys that got drafted between four and ten.

[01:13:08] One of the one of the, you know, one of the critiques of them or the things they need to improve was their jump shot. I'm like, how you drafting shooting guards in the top 10 and need to work on their shooting? I mean, shooting guard

[01:13:24] because they were six, seven. They could defend. And it was like there's six, seven. They could defend guys like Paul George and Kawhi and LeBron and D Wade on the wing. It was like you develop guys that you have in your organization for that.

[01:13:39] You use top draft picks to get the best player available. You don't get used draft picks to kind of like hope you can create a Kobe stopper or hope you can create a Kawhi stopper. How am I making my team better?

[01:13:54] Like if I'm drafting the shooting guard and he can't shoot, what happens if he's not that good defensively? Bob going, what am I doing? Well, he has ran power for it when he got no power. Yeah, I don't know what you would just do this random thing is.

[01:14:07] I always thought he was a really good basketball. I'm just I'm just I'm just piggybacking off of your point. He went to the late and the Lakers had a good core of players and they gave they gave it all up for a couple.

[01:14:19] It's just an inside joke now. That's all it is. Yeah, yeah. So this is about Julius. Yeah, I mean, I get it. But like if you look at some teams you can build the free agency, but you got to hit like it's all a matter of luck.

[01:14:33] And I get that part. But there still is a matter of like you made a poor decision. Like why is Washington trading away players? It's like one of these to do what? Like we've seen the crop of young players coming in.

[01:14:49] We don't even do the sophomore versus the rookie. No, why? So you can get any run. So you could be bad again next year. In this group for Coop. Or maybe you're trying to get Ace Bailey. I don't know. I like Ace Bailey.

[01:15:04] But you know, but everybody's trying to take for Cooper flag. So, you know, you could get something in this draft, maybe trade it if you need to. But then here we go. Most playoff wins before turn at twenty seven. Jason Tatum is fourth all time. How about it?

[01:15:22] Yeah, I'm a little. Yeah, I just I just got. I don't know who he beat in all these one on one games. But, you know, Sam, like apparently this will be win number sixty eight for him. But those other guys had nine championships.

[01:15:34] I can't even argue with you. I can't even I can't even argue with that. But Kyrie Irvin, the hero that was supposed to, you know, chase Boston down three for twelve. Jason Tatum in jail and Brown combined 14 of 37. You know, Drew Holiday, 15, nine and four on seven to 13.

[01:15:55] Derek Whitewood, 11 and seven. Boston up by 19 at the end of three. This is crazy. It's a crazy little run that I like. I like the parody because we talked about that before. This is going to be like the six different champion in the last six seasons, correct? Correct.

[01:16:13] So we got Golden State, Toronto, Milwaukee, Lakers, Milwaukee, Golden State again, Golden State again. And then last year was Denver. Yeah. So, yeah, well, I guess we had that repeat if you if you start at Toronto. Yeah, because they want to be able for

[01:16:36] I think it's good for the league. No, I love it too. But you know, ratings usually say that the fans tune in for the dynasty. I mean, most NBA teams are in pretty popular cities. You have. Boston, you got Philly, New York, got a couple of teams there.

[01:16:56] It's not you don't have that many teams in these like destitute areas where they're not popular enough to where they're driving the ratings needle. Right. You just got to play good basketball. I mean, like I said, there was a team in Cleveland

[01:17:11] that had a guy and they were on TV all the time because they moved the needle. Do you have a team like San Antonio? Oh, they step out of bounds. I'm going off now. Oh, you know, they had him filling these rest tonight.

[01:17:28] Oh, look, I got another file call. You know, they know he's saying that they're white on the block shot and saying they're quite far. Oh, that should have been a file. Yeah. Yeah. You know, they have a yeah. But as we look around the sports world, you know,

[01:17:45] like NBA finals going on, I know. But we didn't have a bit. We didn't have a moment to talk about one. Trevor Lawrence. One Trevor Lawrence becoming the fifty five million dollar man getting that money Williams money.

[01:18:04] The craziest quote that I read as a man, watch or say that Trevor Lawrence is getting paid for what he did at Clemson. And he's not wrong. His he's not wrong. It's for OK. He's getting paid off of what people thought he would be.

[01:18:21] These quarterbacks are getting paid off the sea market. Yeah, off the off the CBA. I don't think it's a talent thing. Like I say, we had this conversation last week. It was going to be a bit of our case study was

[01:18:35] this narrative that if you don't have a quarterback, you're dead in the water. I put his back against that because in regards to you signing your guy to whatever the market says, you got to sign him to. I pushed back on that because.

[01:18:52] Not many teams have made it to the Super Bowl when their quarterback is taking up 30 or 40 percent of the cap. Right. So I think it's a bad move to just sign a guy just for sake of signing them. We talked about Brock Purdy next year.

[01:19:07] I know we're going to get to Trevor Lawrence, but Trevor is just I think they believe what they see and they feel like it's going to get better as they get, you know, they add a piece here, add a piece here.

[01:19:22] And I think they're hopeful for this year. They're in a winnable division. I know Houston's coming, but let's let's let's calm down. Houston would have been nine and eight if the Colts convert that fourth down and going and scoring and win that game.

[01:19:37] The Colts will be 10 and seven. They would offer to play off. And he's going to be nine and eight. We wouldn't be raving about nine and eight teams. They did go into the playoffs and beat the breaks off of Cleveland. Oh, is that his leg in there?

[01:19:48] He definitely looked good. Yeah. So Jacksonville, you got to sign your guy. And I get it. But 55 million, you got to give me 11 wins next year. Like 11 wins and I need you to give me 37 touchdowns, 4200 yards like I need.

[01:20:12] I need one of those MVP type seasons from you for fifty five million dollars. Right. So if you and because I just don't want to be a game manager because a lot of the blind reveals they've been doing. Is a. Daniel Jones, like their stats are almost identical

[01:20:35] record yards completion percentage. Daniel Jones got 40 million and people ready to run him out of New York. But yet Trevor Lawrence with the same resume essentially is going to get 55 million. But Jacksonville thinks they have their guy, a better click

[01:20:51] and a better hit and a better hit on some rookies and maybe some veterans that want to play for the Redmins minimum. Who look good with the office? I think I think that I just need Trevor Lawrence to be a part of the elite.

[01:21:07] You know, like we were talking about it last year. We were in like week seven or week eight. We're like, hey, you don't even have 10 touchdowns yet. You know, when Kirk Cousins was sitting on 17 or so. So I agree with that.

[01:21:19] And I do think it's all potential base. You know, the good news for Jacksonville is that ETN broke out last year. You know, I don't know how I feel about them adding game Davis, but I do like the draft pick of Brian Thomas out of LSU.

[01:21:35] I'm not going to put it on there to where it's like, hey, you got to win a division. But last last week of the season, you should be playing for the division at the very least. Yeah, you got to win.

[01:21:45] You know what I mean? Because I mean, at the end of the day, it's a team sport like, you know what I mean? So and I get it. But the team, the team is going to be missing a few pieces because you're taking 55 million dollars.

[01:21:58] So because of that, it's one thing to say because you're the starting quarterback on a team that, you know, has some good pieces. You got to win it all because you're cheap and everybody else is expensive. No. But if you're paying them

[01:22:11] fifty five million dollars and that means expectation is expectation is that you are you're going to lead us to double digit victories every year and we're competing for championships. It's like not just. We are competing for the division

[01:22:30] because that fifty five million dollars, man, that's a lot of money. And you're not going to be able to keep. Your wide receivers, you know, when that you got Gabe Davis, but they had to let Jones go really, really, really went to Tennessee

[01:22:52] because they probably knew they were going to give, you know, if they feel the earn is going to get us fifty five million. But if that's the case, I need the money that I give gave you put you in a position where you have to deliver now.

[01:23:04] And I think Miami's smart with two, but I believe they're going to do the same thing. I think a lot of guys can end up getting like fifty five million. We could talk about Dallas and that potentially he might be up to 60.

[01:23:18] But if he goes another team, I don't think he gets that much. But I need you elite. I need you week eight to be on either just a year. You're going to blow away your career best numbers or you're chasing Aaron Rogers last MVP season.

[01:23:37] That was like forty five touchdowns, six picks. I need you somewhere in that or like I think Tom Brady's one of his later best seasons, fifty three hundred yards and forty three touchdowns. It sounds like a bit.

[01:23:48] It sounds like video game numbers, but I'm paying you video game number money. So you get. Oh, thank you. And a KFC commercial, though. Here's one for you. The boy got a KFC commercial shot of the spaghetti. Oh, yeah. Here's one for you. So week eight.

[01:24:05] I need you to out duel Jordan Love at home and then week nine the week after. I might need you to go to Philly and win my ass. No, I know. But I'm just saying as I don't know when these games are.

[01:24:19] But no, but I'm just saying, as I look at this schedule because I'm looking at their schedule right now, you can't lose the six best quarterbacks. Matter of fact, I got one even better for you. I got one even better for you.

[01:24:29] Week one, get me a win in South Beach. I'll play to a and week one. It's going to be warm. It's going to be high flying because if to it, especially if to it hasn't gotten paid, then that's going to be the whole conversation

[01:24:44] that week leading up to it. Not to it didn't get paid, but that to has weapons. They have a basic attract team in Miami. And then Trevor got paid. You can't go out there, two hundred and twelve yards, one touchdown, one pick, one touchdown, no pick.

[01:25:01] I need three twelve to three touchdowns. I need I need a few of those games where it's like if you can't beat Philly, if you can't beat Philly, send us into the bye week with a win at Fort Field. Out duel, Jared golf

[01:25:17] in the dome before our bye week. Yeah, something you got. You got to give me something they might. I'm trying to think. You got to give me something. Herbert already had his deal. Josh Allen's got his deal for a couple of years. Burrow signed his last year.

[01:25:36] I mean, I give them this from a business since they did it right. They did it right now versus waiting until people are getting 60 million. So today, at least that least they nailed that part where they didn't wait too long. And now it's going to cost them

[01:25:55] 60 million dollars a year. Do I need 4000? You need you know, you need forty four thousand yards. Yeah, I need you. I need you MVP. Forty five hundred yards. I need the 40 touchdowns of 4500 yards. I need I need games where the defense is kind of lacking.

[01:26:12] I need you to put up. I need you to throw us victories a few times. I need you to get a couple of three hundred fifty yard games. I need you to help us win a shootout. Thirty four to thirty one.

[01:26:24] You know, I need those kind of performances along with the steadiness. You're going to win and lose games. I understand that. But Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford, Mahomes, young Aaron Rogers, they would get you those do those shootout games where it's 30 31 28 and they got you three touchdowns.

[01:26:50] Oh, hey, kind of exciting. I will remind you. I need a I need a home playoff game. Yeah. So yeah, you got to win the division. Well, you can get a home playoff game without a division. Oh, no, actually, yeah. Now you can't now more likely you can't.

[01:27:06] But yeah, but I mean, yeah. So I mean, but that's the thing. You're in a winnable division. You got Will Levis, CJ Straub and Richardson. Say CJ Straub is as good as he played last year and he improves on that.

[01:27:23] You just got to out duel him and win the division. If you split, that's fine. Protect home. But if you lose the home game, you got to win there. However, you know, you got to split that. And I need you to

[01:27:38] I think you find one in the division because I think you can beat the Colts because I don't think Richardson is seasoned enough because he's going to essentially his pseudo rookie year. Right. And he wasn't I think he was like 40, 50 percent

[01:27:51] completes and percentage during his actual rookie year. So I can't imagine that coming off the injuries. And he got knocked out every game that he was in. So he still has to learn. So that those can be a couple of games that you win.

[01:28:06] Will Levis, I'm not sure if the relationship between him and Callahan is going to work out. So they have the so their divisions this year. They play the AFC East and they get the NFC North. So get me a win over Minnesota for sure.

[01:28:27] It's going to be Detroit. You said at Ford Field. Yes, at Ford Field. That's going to be tough. The Detroit was a couple of field goals away from being in the Super Bowl. So that's going to be a tough. Yeah. They play tough there.

[01:28:40] Chicago and Green Bay are at home. Chicago rookie quarterback. That should be. I need to win it at home. Green Bay, that's a toss up game. That's a game where you might have to win in a shootout. Right. That's why I said I'll do Jordan Love.

[01:28:57] Yeah. And then if any of your AFC East, you go to Miami and Buffalo. When do you go to Buffalo? We three. OK, so it's one. Cool. My Florida team here, Florida and it's Monday night football. Monday night football. But you plant your plan in September.

[01:29:15] It should be, you know, warmth. Sixty five, 70 at best. Right. And then are they getting the London tour again? Are they getting two games back? They are getting to London. Is it back to back? It is back to back or actually. Yeah.

[01:29:31] So so Chicago is one of the London games and then they get New England next week. So they should win both of those. They should win both of those because they're going to they're going to be there all week in New England is New England is New England.

[01:29:43] We don't know what they're going to do. Yep. So so basically, actually, I'll just run down this. How about that? I'll go in quarters. Let's do this in quarters. All right. So at Miami, Miami, home versus Cleveland at Buffalo. At Houston. So that's your first four.

[01:30:08] Then you got in the at home. You're back to back London's Bears first Patriots second. Then you got the Green Bay game at home. So two London's and you come back to a home game and you get the Bears at home. The bears are in London. Yeah, yeah.

[01:30:31] So then so the Lions are coming to Jacksonville. No, no, no, no. So then so then the next quarter. The Patriots game of it after the game. The Packers are Packers. Yeah. Then you go to Philly, home for Minnesota at Detroit by week who would have steeped.

[01:30:52] So by week is week 12 for them. Seven games in a bye. Yep. Then you got home for Houston. At Tennessee, home for the Jets at Vegas. And then your last two games are at home against Tennessee and that in the I mean, this is

[01:31:26] as 11 of six is reasonable because you have a few. I think you have a few games in there that are. We'll say they have issues at quarterback. You got Minnesota, Minnesota. If Minnesota still running with Sam Darnold at that point, then that means

[01:31:53] JJ McCarthy is not really picking it up. And I can't imagine that Sam Darnold playing in week nine. Their records really good still. So I imagine you're probably going to get the rookie. So that's that's a game.

[01:32:06] Las Vegas, I don't know what they did with the quarterback market, but that's a game issue. The Jets, I got to see how they look. I think their offensive line piece that they added are old. I'm not sure how much Aaron Rodgers engaged.

[01:32:22] And I mean, generally, he plays whole season when he does plays pretty healthy aside from a couple of years here and there. Right. But Tennessee, I think you have the quarterback advantage there. Indy, you have the quarterback advantage of both of those games.

[01:32:36] Chicago, because you're playing a rookie on the road who's in depends if they followed like Buffalo's model where they they left on Thursday to go to England. If they leave on Monday or Tuesday, then I think you'll you know, they'll be good to go.

[01:32:50] But you have a quarterback advantage here just of experience. One guy's played 50 plus games and the other guy has it right. Houston, I don't think you have a quarterback advantage because I believe C.S. Routh is you know, I think he is as confident as his numbers suggest.

[01:33:08] So I call that a watch. So just in the games where you have a quarterback advantage, oh, Patriots is another one. That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. I got eight games where. Definitively, you have the better quarterback. Right. So get me three somewhere else.

[01:33:28] Get me that win at Buffalo or at Miami. You know, maybe Philly is still in Philly. I feel that late. You never know what the you know, it could be cold. I figure you'd take the home game against Houston just to protect home and division.

[01:33:47] So that's how represent in Baltimore. Then that would get you. Do you beat Buffalo? Buffalo has no passing. I don't know if their wide receiver situation was like that. No, they got Chase Claypool wearing 14, but he's not going to run. Chase Claypool, John Colby, Curtis, Samuel and.

[01:34:09] Shakir. So you got a small, slight guy, a rookie who everyone loves, a six foot five guy that just seems to not really fucking have any work ethic, which I don't know if that's the case. It just seems as if from the outside looking in

[01:34:27] his attitude isn't always right. I think back to that Minnesota game where he was showboating with the ball when they were when Pittsburgh was trying to come back and trying to spike the ball, he's out there pointing with the ball.

[01:34:39] And the center had to run up on him and snatch the ball from him and he dropped it. And he's cussing the center out. You see that? Is it injury? I want to look. Oh, here you go.

[01:34:49] You know how I get I'm at the it says four thirty nine and are coming back from the timeout. Oh, yeah. You wave behind me now. Yeah, there's no action. Yeah, I'm at four twenty. Mr. Donchich is. Look like he lost his foot in and grabbed his ankle.

[01:35:06] Now, I mean, it's over. I mean, they're down 24 with like four and a half left. So, you know, a run is a run. Oh, oh, shit. Yeah, he just looks like clumsiness. I mean, he's still in the game and everything, but.

[01:35:22] You know, looked a lot worse than than it was. Floor was probably just slippery. Look at Derek White. That's all bad. Jason Tate about to get this, you know, he bought the hit is thirty one. Thirty first point right here.

[01:35:36] They don't give them the finals in VP for having both slips for having the best game in the closeout. They both slipped. I know, but only one of them grabbed their ankle. I'm just saying like who fell in the middle of Florida. I didn't clean it up.

[01:35:54] So I'm looking at he's a clumsy. He just made a layup and ran into the stanchion for no reason. But you know why he's like a. He's like white and beat, but like six inches shorter, like just the clumsiest aloof basketball players in the league.

[01:36:11] I guess because I've never been fast, like fast enough to fall while playing basketball. Like I'm I'm not I'm not a mover like that. Oh, Jason Tate about to steal my boy final MVP. Huh? My boy out here with the seven for twenty two. What Jalen Brown? Yeah.

[01:36:41] He got 20 points. I think it's eight boards and six assists. You know, but he's seven of twenty two. Tatum is thirty one, eight and eleven on eleven of twenty two. Combined there are three for fifteen from three. Those two, you know, I was waiting for

[01:37:01] Kyrie to put on his PJ mask outfit, go into the night to save the day. You know, like five or 16. Maybe it's that building, man. Maybe it really is Jalen Brown. I'm glad I didn't. I was going big on the finals of EPVM when I first said it.

[01:37:19] I think we underrate or I don't know if maybe we overrate. I don't know what the word is. We do something with the way that Kyrie plays basketball, not recognizing that he does a lot of tough shit that he makes look easy.

[01:37:36] Yeah. And then there's moments where we realize it's not easy because he has games like this, even the shot that he just hit. You know, said it's not a shot that you want players to just take. Yeah, he's a he's the new

[01:37:54] Allen Iverson, we're all lucky he wasn't six, seven. Remember, Kobe said that we're all lucky he wasn't six, five. Yeah. Like Kyrie, I don't know if there's are many guys that because that is what six, three listed six, three. Yeah. But if you. Yeah, just like his dog.

[01:38:14] Like his dog, Daddy. There it is just like his god, Daddy. Ross Strickland, like. Yeah, it carry in. I believe Kyrie is because he's he does go on a lot of attention, at least for a couple of years.

[01:38:28] He you know, he had a lot of attention on him. He's very outspoken, very vocal pretty much since George Floyd's murder. Up until now, he's been like a lightning rod for attention. And I think people just kind of like to. I think people like to hate anyway.

[01:38:47] But if you look at what these guys do is like, I couldn't guard anyone, these guys that saved my life. I don't think anybody that we that any way, you know, personally couldn't guard any of these guys in NBA.

[01:38:58] He's a cousin, a cousin that used to play college ball. I got a cousin, Al, six, eight, used to play college ball. He couldn't guard Jason Tatum, save his life. So most regular people like us who have these conversations probably couldn't guard these guys.

[01:39:14] They said I'm definitely just one of the finals of VP. Like I said, I'm watching on mute anyway, but I'm pretty sure it's probably the conversation that they're having. But two games out of five games with over 30 points. Is Jason Tatum one of those

[01:39:29] Jack of all trades, master of none? No, I think what he is in is just not something that the NBA is used to. He's just a good, humble basketball player. But I'm still behind you, so don't say anything. No, no, no, I'm laughing at this.

[01:39:48] I'll show you. I'm laughing at that because you were talking about how nobody could guard these dudes and yeah, we have all the speed they're called F-35s and F-16s and B2. Hey, hey, Air Force got a safety

[01:40:06] that just won the Thorpe Award and got drafted in the NFL draft, by the way. Yeah, we do things, big things, aim high. But yeah, so I think what Jason Tatum is that we I think we become accustomed to our stars, our being like fans

[01:40:26] and, you know, just kind of being attached to these guys as just this larger than life ego through the roof, talent on a million. And they they shoulder everything and they just have like this this drive in this grit like Kobe

[01:40:45] and Jordan and LeBron and Magic and all these guys. Well, Magic's probably a little bit more jovial. I think Tatum is more magic. Then he is Kobe and like Kobe when he's talking about was a game when they were up, when they had one game left against Orlando.

[01:41:04] Yeah, and he was like, so that was probably and he was like, there's a Kobe happy now. He's like, was we happy about it's not done. Are we done? It's not done. But then after he won, no, that's when he beat Boston.

[01:41:18] He was like, I got more to Shaq. So he was holding on to see he wanted to say that. So when he got his fifth, when he got his fifth ring, it was like, what is Kobe was this media? He's like, it means I got more than Shaq.

[01:41:29] So he had it in him. It just that Jason Tatum just says it. Good job, Kyrie. It's not the end of the world if we don't win the night and you want to yell at him, but then he goes out there.

[01:41:42] And then, like I said, he puts up that's off Drew. He puts up 31 points. Oh, we had more of my personality sometimes because I would have came out with the tell me how my ass taste remix. That's oh, they call them up the dogs.

[01:42:02] Oh, hey, Mike, I got one for you. So you remember we were talking about how Rath looked like Michael Strahan. So first of all, dark is shit. Hey, so I got a new one. I got a new one. This is fresh. This is fresh out the crates.

[01:42:24] You know, said he got the headphones on. He got the microphone. Tell me this man don't look like folk master flex right now. We get this. This is the last Sports Report Disorder show. We've done. We focus. We've done. We've done just like Dallas.

[01:42:54] They call they're waving a white flag. You know, they're doing the subs. I can't believe Al Horford is about to get allowed up here. After going back to back in college, there's his daddy. I'm going to say Al Horford, you know, saying 38 years old.

[01:43:13] Is this is Joe Mazula smiling? You know, you know, you know, the folks like this. You know, I'm really here to see who won this final MVP, but it's going to be Jason Tatum is Jason Tatum because he had the he had the game in the closeout.

[01:43:38] That's very similar to Jason. Jason Brown, Jalen Brown set the tone for the series. Oh, he needed 28 points. I'm behind you. So just I mean, I mean, Jalen Brown is just like just windmill on somebody right now. Like, you know what I mean? Like I kept the finals

[01:44:02] instead of what he just did. You know what I mean? But yeah, so congratulations. I'm sorry, Unc, Boston Beecher Lakers to number 18. You know, even though still you get to say that the Lakers are the better franchise because, you know, Boston goes so long in between titles

[01:44:20] and, you know, all their titles like like what? Like six. Yeah, like 65 percent came from one guy and, you know, one group. Yeah. So at least the Lakers got that going for. But, you know, what's amazing, though, is that this is only Boston's 23rd finals appearance.

[01:44:41] You know, and they got the 18, whereas the Lakers have 17 in like 32 appearances. So like, you know, but once again, they got. Yeah, I was going to say the LeBron fans will say, but we got there. We had a we had a great conversation going.

[01:44:59] I got it on mute trying to pick. Well, we know who finals of EP is. This is like I'm straight up. I'm like happy for these four for Jason Tatum. I'm happy for the NBA, too, because I think I'm not happy for Boston.

[01:45:14] You know, as a wise man once said, fuck Boston as a staff record label and as a motherfucking crew. Yeah, I had a good time in Boston. Shout out to, you know, the great city of Boston. Great drinks at old fashions.

[01:45:31] I mean, probably some of the best old fashions I've had on earth. No, didn't during the week of Juneteenth. No, he didn't. No, he did it during the week of Juneteenth. They said luckily had Bill Russell on the team.

[01:45:49] They're like, listen, we got one and we let them coach. Oh, yeah. Quick. Get it off my chest to bring winning time back. I don't care who got assigned the deal. Bring that show back. You can't have it in on Larry Bird, beat Magic in the finals.

[01:46:06] That show ain't coming back there. I don't know how shows don't come back. Like I said, I was watching. Well, because Magic's getting on it. That's how like I was it. I saw like I was watching that show Rome and they said it was too expensive.

[01:46:22] And a year later, Game of Thrones came out. I'm like, I'm pretty sure it costs more. They were in like five continents or five countries to do Game of Thrones. But yet it's all good. Yeah, so made this one thing I do enjoy is that this

[01:46:40] it's no doubt there's a no doubt series. There was no I don't think anybody collapsed. I think just what happened was the better team, the team with more assets. You know, you know what happened? Utilize that to their greatest ability. You know what happened?

[01:46:55] A lot of people brought feelings to a fact fight. You know, they went back to 2016 and said that version of Kyrie is going to show up. You know, Luca is, you know, the next great player that should have won MVP.

[01:47:11] And then people said I got Dallas and that was literally it. You know what I mean? There was no there was no basketball reason. There's no basketball reason. And I and I think that's what it was born down to is that you need you need two guys

[01:47:28] to to get your core going. You just got to get the rest of the guys around it to lock in. Yeah, you know, look at this. I feel so sick right now. I do, man, like, listen, I hate Boston, man.

[01:47:46] I've never been there, but you know, I'm from Baltimore. So, you know, Orioles Red Sox style, all that good stuff. You know, you know, I hate. I'm not a tour, like the Boston. It was clean. I mean, granted, every major city has, you know,

[01:48:02] its homeless population and whatever adverse drug population that, you know, the only thing I like about. But the city was clean, at least the parts that I went to. Fenway Park was dope. Like there was a concert going on, so we just kind of hang out around

[01:48:19] Fenway Park. You know, that's like the green monster. I do like the green monster. Yeah, like it's a dope little city. Like I said, it's very clean. Only thing about is that I was trying to get a drink at like 10 a.m. and everywhere was closed.

[01:48:34] I do like clam chowder. Like, you know, we was in New York. We'd have a drink by now. That's what we just kept saying to each other. But it's like, yeah, it was dope. It's a dope city. So it's a dope little city.

[01:48:44] Yeah, I was just about to say, see, that's the that's the second thing I like about Boston right there. Al Horford's sister. That's the second thing I like about Boston. Now I got to wait. Now I'm looking at this silly ass phone to see what he's talking about.

[01:48:57] You know, so you got Al Horford's sister. You got the green monster. You don't say you got Cheers. You got new addition. You run off a lot of stuff, man, is I think is convincing you. She goes, just because I want to protect my face.

[01:49:15] Hold up, just because I want to protect my face, just because I want to protect my face. I thought with Benzino in the main man, you know, saying I don't need them stab wounds. You know, they're like she'd be like Paul Pierce and Benzino you up.

[01:49:31] I mean, I go be dumb enough to be trying to talk to Benzino friends girls while they over there either. So, you know, NBA players always get sections like first of all, you're too tall. You stand out. You look like targets.

[01:49:44] Now we don't like the pats around here. You know, we don't like the pats. You know, said they're regular now without time. Well, I'm a bill. We don't like Boston baked beans. What? Yeah, we don't like Boston baked beans.

[01:49:59] I'm about to get some tomorrow just because you said that. That's why the best little best little dollar store candy. I prefer pork and beans. No, I'm talking about the candy. Yeah, that candy. It was right. Right next to the lemon heads. Shut it down.

[01:50:15] You know, the peanut. You know, we're better. Wow. Oh, yeah. I did say I like clam chowder. So I do like clam chowder. They get their lobster bisque. I mean, I like lobster bisque. You know, Sam, but I associate that with me.

[01:50:29] I associate that with Maine, not Boston. Yeah, you know, saying like, I don't like Boston University or the fact that their mascot is the Terriers. You know, said I do fuck with Northeastern because I don't know if Northeastern is actually in Boston.

[01:50:48] I know it's in Massachusetts just because Reggie Lewis went there. Rest in peace, Reggie Lewis. You know, but anything Celtic, you know, saying I'm down. I'm not down with it. All I'm saying is I got one Celtics fan on my Facebook friends list.

[01:51:03] So I'm pretty sure he posted something, but that's the only one I have. I've only had one for all these years. Just a one one Boston fan. Oh no, my cousin, she's a Boston fan. I don't like that their airport is named after Wolverine.

[01:51:18] You know, the airport is pretty much out in the middle of the ocean. It's like I looked at the windows when I landed because I was like, where am I at? And it's like, is anywhere near the city. I don't like red socks.

[01:51:32] You know, I prefer black socks. So what's so what's so what's the narrative? What's the conversation tomorrow? The conversation is, you know, is Jason Tatum, the best player in the league as he arrived? Oh, we go skip. Oh, they go skip it. Yeah, they got to skip from.

[01:51:50] Yeah. Then it's going to be then it's going to be is Jason Tatum worth five years, 315. Didn't so Jaylen Brown got 304 something along those lines. Yeah, I think it was real sick. It was in that neighborhood, though. Yeah. OK, because when you said 315, I was thinking he got 340.

[01:52:10] But then I realized, OK, he probably got 304. Yeah, because because because they were saying that this extension, if he gets it, which I'm sure he will. It'll be the biggest contract in the NBA. You know what I mean? Oh, you know, so only only green.

[01:52:30] I like his money and supersonics. You know, Sam. Yeah, like, man, only leprechaun. I like his lucky charms. You know, all I'm saying is like, listen, you fans don't go out there flipping over ambulances. Now they can get away with it. They got the complexion for protection.

[01:52:49] And they will get mace to, you know, said Boston. It was inevitable. We like my thing is this change your accents as we watch the American dammit. We watched as we watched the NBA season all year.

[01:53:07] Of course, we'll do a recap on one of our next episodes as we build on the draft. There was a conversation I had with you was like, why is Boston not being given more like belief and or credit?

[01:53:23] Like for their Zula, I just felt as if people were still picking Milwaukee after they fired their coach midseason brought in Doc Rivers. Yeah. I'm like, come on, like, oh, none of that made any sense for me is like, oh, yeah, I'm over.

[01:53:40] I'm a rely on this because you got a guy starting over literally 51 percent way through the season. Who doesn't have a great track record of lasting through the playoffs. So I was like, they were out. Miami was out because they just didn't have

[01:53:57] they weren't going to have the firepower and they weren't going to make a move to get anybody in there. That's a real score because they want to, you know, play the Miami way. Right. Who else?

[01:54:10] New York. We always feel like New York was going to get beaten up by Tibbs. Like even even if these injuries didn't happen, then the conversation was they were going to get injured because they were just going to run out of gas. Yeah.

[01:54:25] And like a rolled ankle or pulled hamstring. I don't know if that has anything to do with the coach and how many minutes you play, because you could get that pull the hamstring in the first minute of the next game.

[01:54:34] If you play 37 minutes Friday night and then the next game's Sunday, you can pull a hamstring in the first minute. So I don't know if that really associated with them. But we knew it was going to come down to New York was going to

[01:54:47] was going to get beaten up by their coach. Right. So this to attrition, I was like, Boston is the only team left that had just that solid core that was going to be there through the end. I would cheer for Julius Randall to beat Boston. Yeah, that's different.

[01:55:02] That's how deep it is. That's how I feel right there. That's how deep it is. So they went from 86 to 2008 without a chip. Yeah. Then they just went from 08 till now. That's what I was saying about the Lakers, like the Lakers to me

[01:55:16] are still the better franchise because their championships, you know, aren't far apart like that. Boston are part and they were they they were in the finals. Yeah. Boston is basically the East Coast version of UCLA. You know, you got you got Kareem and Bill Walton.

[01:55:35] And then you got a whole lot of nothing until Ed O'Bannon came along. And the only thing UCLA once instead is Ed O'Bannon took our video game from us. Should be coming back. But I don't really play the basketball video game.

[01:55:48] She tough anyway. I know people really love to K, but I just wasn't really I guess I never really got good at it. And I was always just I always played mad. So I just kind of wrote write a die with that. Adam Silver.

[01:56:00] And sort of look like a tall schmigel. Keep my comments to myself, my precious. And I'm saying I ain't trying to get us canceled before we before we make it anywhere. You know what I'm saying? Why these old rich dudes dye their hair? Oh, you're a billionaire.

[01:56:19] They might worry about your hair. And I know out there with hair, you got 1976 hair. 76 years old. Let that let it free. So look at this whole picture. This whole scene makes me want to throw up right now. Just put the happy white people.

[01:56:40] No, I'm talking about Boston, man. What are you talking about? There's a bunch of happy white people. He's upset. No, I'm talking about boss. The Hawks won. You be happy. Hey, you know what? If the Hawks won, I would be happy. I did start my

[01:56:55] association on to K with them last night because I'm tired of Atlanta being a bottom feeder. Oh, my goodness. I don't. You know, say when I get if I ever buy Madden again, I'm going to play with the Falcons.

[01:57:07] You know, saying how much we got to rise up. You know, saying get out of bottom feeder status. I think hopefully they got rid of that. I don't think they did, though, because I don't think that was a coach thing. I think that was a management thing.

[01:57:20] You know, saying ATL United consistently the best team in the city. You know, said they be better than the Braves most of the time. Braves got a World Series recently, so they did. They did. But Atlanta United got it first. At a Super Bowl.

[01:57:37] Oh, that's but I don't hate Atlanta, though, like, you know, say like Boston is on a very rarefied list of places that I hate. What is this? They wick Joe Mazula finals MVP. Can a coach win finals and VP? I doubt it.

[01:57:54] So maybe maybe we are checking out. Well, we got put on screen. Is it public viewing? Boston is about colors and the look of what's said. Oh, my goodness, man. Stop it. You're about to be choked by the way. Zuckerberg is waiting on like

[01:58:19] so. So this is this is something I always find funny with the sports conversations. So now Dallas just played five games in NBA finals. OK, what is the conversation about Dallas tomorrow morning? Is Luca Dacic overrated? Does Luca need help? Can Luca is Jason K.

[01:58:43] Can Dallas win with Luca? With Luca and no help or something like that? Dallas should Dallas fire Jason Kidd. Yo, check it out. I guarantee if you if you look through Twitter from a tape and choke,

[01:58:59] they didn't show that they they were they were never added in the series. Yeah, they would never add an advantage. I think if you not even like analytics, if you just looked at just basically man for man, like we said, you go, Luca would be number one.

[01:59:13] If you rank the top five, you're going to be number one. Top ten players in the in the series, it would go Luca Tatum. You could flip Kyrie or Jalen Brown. I would go Jalen Brown. Slide in Kyrie, but then I got white

[01:59:31] Porzingis Horford, Holiday and any one of those orders before you get to the next Dallas player. And it's not as if like that next Dallas player was going to be a guy that can make an impact the same way there at Whitehouse,

[01:59:45] because those guys don't create their own points. All their points comes off of Luca and Kyrie's streakiness. Yes, if Luca and Kyrie get high and they're and they're causing trouble in the paint, then they get help. Oh, shit. They did the right thing. Hold on. Hold on.

[02:00:05] I didn't say nothing. I didn't say nothing. I'm just saying they did the right thing. Well, don't tell me. Let's see finals MVP. There it is. The upset of the year. We got the upset of the year. There's the conversation tomorrow. We got Jason Tatum deserve finals MVP.

[02:00:25] We're about to have Jalen Brown versus Jason Tatum. Brown 366. Hey, oh, man, like I. Hey, 20. Hey, we got the upset of the year. This is bigger than that game Belgium lost today. You know, what is going on in the world?

[02:00:57] I mean, did they factor in like defensive rating, defensive impact or the fact that they had to or something? Jason Tatum didn't score over 20. You just scored 30 over. Yeah, you just say you just stay with that big trophy. Jason, get away from the other trophy.

[02:01:13] You know, I don't got a problem. I don't have a problem with it. I don't either. I just thought that tonight I thought it was closer than. I knew Jalen Brown. I thought they were going to give him the you're the leader of the team stimulus.

[02:01:30] I I thought he was gone. I thought it was going to go to Jason Tatum because I I figured if you were on the fence, you saw the first four games. If you were on the fence tonight, would have pushed you, Tatum,

[02:01:43] especially considering that Jalen didn't play great tonight. Right. But Steph only has one. So 22, seven and seven. Can you go, Co? Because they don't do it. You go. Now you can't do Co. This would this would be probably the only

[02:02:10] the only situation that I've seen recently where like that would be the case. Because I think you can make an argument for Tatum because game one, the blowout was on so early. And Porzingis had 20. So you're assuming you probably come to that game

[02:02:27] thinking you get 10 points out of Porzingis. Right. And then you split you split that other 10 between Jalen and Jason. And they both are sitting at 23 or 24 points. And then game two was the Drew Holiday game. Game two is Drew Holiday.

[02:02:42] And he just you just feed the hot hand. That's what happens when you have a team, like I said, eight guys have green lights. But game three was the game that Tatum came out in. Established himself. You know, but Jalen Brown hit the closeout jump.

[02:02:58] He hit the jumper to put him on five. Right. So he had he had he was part of the block block file, whatever he was. I think he just was in those crunch time moments. Like I said, we talked about it with East Conference finals

[02:03:11] when Jason had 10 points in overtime. But Jalen Brown hit the three to put him there. So it's like I think is just those parts. They just kind of took those snapshots and boom. I remember he was here for that. I was memory. He was here for that.

[02:03:24] If Jason Tatum hits that jumper that puts them up five or six at the end of game three, I think that's what people would remember. But Al Horford, most in the most games in NBA history before his first time. Yeah.

[02:03:41] There's probably guys who have more games that don't have titles. Oh, that's oh, yeah, that's a good point. That's a conversation tomorrow. You know what I mean? Did they get finals MVP? Right. That's a conversation where people are going to argue all day about

[02:03:55] was Jalen Brown really the MVP or if it should have been Tatum or like, you know, well, I can give you a good 30 minutes right there. Yeah, but the problem is people aren't going to talk about it logically like you and I or people that we converse with.

[02:04:12] It's going to be beating on a table and it's going to be watching the scoreboard. It's going to be people who didn't watch the game. I'm predicting Stephen Smith goes on some kind of tangent. OK, I believe fucking poor Zingas is a champion.

[02:04:26] All these dudes they used to play in Washington now. Well, I wasn't even going there. Like I was just going off of poor Zingas period. Like, you know, Phil Jackson punching the air somewhere.

[02:04:38] That was one of those draft picks at the next just the people just booed him. Like I think because people forgot about Andrea Bariani because he went number one overall. Yeah. They thought that was going to be the new wave, the seven foot foreigner.

[02:04:54] And it's like, yeah, it's hot. But I think it's going to be a good game. Yeah, it's hot. But all of them are going to hit just the same way. You know, all the American players don't pop. I just had the wildest thought to. What's that?

[02:05:11] I have to tell you that one off air. All right. That one for public consumption. But yeah, you know, any Walberg and new teeth. I mean, I guess I can muster up the gander, if you will, to say congratulations to the Boston Celtics,

[02:05:30] your twenty, twenty three, twenty four NBA champions. You know, I nailed it and predicted all the way, you know, to me. Like, I still wish I would have got the finals. I predict it, though. Was that Boston in Denver? I would have liked to have seen that.

[02:05:47] Look at Derek White still busted. Oh, yeah. Look at that mouth. Is it swollen? Oh, oh, they got my man out here with the Baraka teeth now. Oh, it is. Did he chip him? Yeah. There's one Dallas player. Derek White looks like the short version of Derek Lively.

[02:06:04] Let's see. Did he knock him out? Yeah. Yeah, it's gone. You know that now, Derek White, I don't know if he ever wanted to be a UFC fighter, but he looks like one now. Oh, that's ugly. Oh, that's terrible. That's terrible. You know, I'm saying so.

[02:06:24] All right. Points 40 percent from three. He was shooting lights out to he was like he's a big part of the reason that they're here right now. You know, he was hitting a lot of those shots that we wanted to him

[02:06:37] to hit because Tatum like Tatum's numbers look like he was front running because he he didn't. I don't know if he was taking the clutch shots, but it seems as if when Dallas will go on a run, Derek White would take the take that shot.

[02:06:53] And I don't think it was because Tatum was shying away from the moment. I just think that all those guys have seen that they all worked off and through whoever whoever is going to get the best.

[02:07:03] No, he was going one for five and fourth quarters and Jalen Brown where he was hitting the bigger shots. You know what I mean? And I'm not saying that to insult him. I'm just saying that as a matter of fact of what happened.

[02:07:15] You know, like so I'm not going to have one more. If you would have had another game, if game two, he would have got you 24 points, fishing, shooting and then had 30 31 in game three. And then this 31 tonight, yet he would want finals of VP.

[02:07:33] But the fact that he gave you teen for three games. Well, I know one person that I'm going to be arguing with tomorrow. Adam Black Adam. Yeah, well, I mean, come with it. You know, so and so.

[02:07:50] But yeah, you know, on that note, y'all, congrats again to this to the Celtics. Thank you. Thanks for the love and support, like review, subscribe, share it with granny. We'll be back on Thursday. We got some other things coming at you. So just keep your eyes open.

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