The guys put a bow on the Divisional Round of the NFL Playoffs with recaps.
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[00:01:18] The take over. The breaks over.
[00:01:21] It's misplogical.
[00:01:26] Yeah.
[00:01:27] We are here.
[00:01:29] What's for forces ordered and we got a whole lot to talk about
[00:01:32] tonight because I know y'all been watching these games this
[00:01:35] weekend and we are in championship weekend.
[00:01:38] It's in our focus.
[00:01:40] Oh man, a lot of people out there eat some pro.
[00:01:44] I'm eating some pro too because I really believed in the bills.
[00:01:48] You know that I really believed in them.
[00:01:50] You know what I'm saying? But it is what it is.
[00:01:52] So I guess we will start there.
[00:01:54] Yeah.
[00:01:55] Yo, can you talk about wide right?
[00:01:58] Yes.
[00:01:59] As a Florida state fan.
[00:02:01] The two worst words in the English language when combined.
[00:02:04] Oh, and it was so fast.
[00:02:07] Like it went right.
[00:02:09] You know, sometimes it's slow.
[00:02:11] It just is like, it's like the NFL had a remote control on
[00:02:16] the football and made it go right.
[00:02:18] Whatever.
[00:02:19] I'm capping.
[00:02:21] Yo, but when he kicked it.
[00:02:23] I like, because sometimes I like to drink like the partake and
[00:02:26] you know, it's all right.
[00:02:28] It's funny when like, it's like a sobering moment in somebody's
[00:02:32] life.
[00:02:33] And I'm, I was pretty, you know, I was nice stuff yesterday.
[00:02:36] Have a nice little Sunday.
[00:02:38] I mean long weekend because all the snow and everything we had
[00:02:41] here in the East Coast had a lot of time just at the crib.
[00:02:44] Right.
[00:02:45] Like, you know what?
[00:02:46] I'm going to have a couple drinks, watch some football.
[00:02:49] Right.
[00:02:50] And when he missed it, I was the answer.
[00:02:53] He missed it.
[00:02:56] That's that standup.
[00:02:58] It was like the same way when, when Tom Brady through the pick at
[00:03:00] the goal line or not.
[00:03:02] When Russell was through the pick of the goal line, I remember
[00:03:04] like jumping off my couch.
[00:03:06] Like I rarely had that reaction.
[00:03:08] Like he's like someone Falcons fan when the Falcons lost.
[00:03:10] I didn't have like a physical reaction to it.
[00:03:12] I just was like, I can't believe what I just saw, but
[00:03:15] it was like slowly building up to that.
[00:03:19] I was like, I'm going to kick.
[00:03:21] I thought it was automatic.
[00:03:23] I think it was inside.
[00:03:25] It was inside 50.
[00:03:26] I think it was like maybe 42 or 43 or so.
[00:03:28] Yeah.
[00:03:29] That's for kickers today.
[00:03:31] If you probably, if you pulled the league and did the math
[00:03:35] kickers are probably like 82% or something crazy from
[00:03:39] excuse me 40 to 45.
[00:03:41] So I was like, okay, this is automatic.
[00:03:43] And then my home is at ballback and ago from there.
[00:03:45] You know,
[00:03:46] I was like, this is this is this is the reenactment of my
[00:03:50] reaction.
[00:03:53] Son of a bitch.
[00:03:55] Listen, sometimes I like, I like making a pick and being
[00:04:01] right.
[00:04:02] I love to argue and be right.
[00:04:04] I love to debate and be right.
[00:04:06] I do.
[00:04:07] But sometimes when you're wrong, you're like, you know what?
[00:04:09] I picked against Kansas City in two weeks in a row.
[00:04:11] Me too.
[00:04:12] I'm not saying what I'm going to do the next time we
[00:04:14] record, but it just was like, as I was watching the
[00:04:17] game play out, I was like, this guy really is different
[00:04:22] in Patrick Holmes.
[00:04:24] It just it's just the moment and we talk about it with
[00:04:27] a lot of quarterbacks and we'll get into the Brock
[00:04:29] Purdy talk again.
[00:04:30] You know, I also sprinkled some other quarterback talks.
[00:04:35] It's like they're all basically built the same way.
[00:04:38] They're six foot to six for 200 to, you know,
[00:04:43] yes, some anomalies like Josh Allen, 235 and all these guys
[00:04:47] just use it for the most part.
[00:04:49] They're pretty much the same guy.
[00:04:51] They thought about the same distance.
[00:04:53] Well, you got your Bryce Young's too.
[00:04:55] I mean, you have your, you have your Colin Murray's,
[00:04:58] but Colin Murray has like exceptional arm talent.
[00:05:01] So like you have things that kind of set you apart.
[00:05:04] Right.
[00:05:05] But what my Holmes does and I kind of fear for Alex,
[00:05:09] I saw something today was like magic being a bills fan,
[00:05:13] you had to deal with Tom Brady in division for 20 years.
[00:05:19] And then on the heels of that, you run it up against
[00:05:24] Patrick Holmes seemingly every year.
[00:05:26] Even with that, you had Joe Burrow in between that.
[00:05:31] So it was like, you don't even get a break.
[00:05:33] Maybe you get a Justin Herbert.
[00:05:35] Maybe you can, you can win 19, like Cal.
[00:05:39] Okay.
[00:05:40] Carl Anthony Towns 58 points 19 for 25 10 for 12 from three into
[00:05:45] the third.
[00:05:48] Okay.
[00:05:49] Back to the regular program.
[00:05:53] Sometimes like you look at a game and you're like, oh,
[00:05:55] this team lost it.
[00:05:56] They didn't do this.
[00:05:57] I think it just was a matter of everybody that could make plays
[00:06:00] made plays and it's going to fall on the foot of the
[00:06:03] kicker for just missing that opportunity to tie the game up.
[00:06:08] And it's unfortunate, but.
[00:06:10] Yo, if you looked at the stats of this game without watching
[00:06:15] it, like you were out with your girl or something and
[00:06:19] you couldn't get eyes on the game and you came home and
[00:06:22] you saw the box score, you would be like, you know,
[00:06:27] how did Kansas City win this game?
[00:06:29] Buffalo had the ball for 37 minutes.
[00:06:33] You know, Buffalo ran 31 more plays than Kansas City and
[00:06:39] only had seven more yards.
[00:06:41] Patrick Mahomes came out yesterday and he said,
[00:06:48] allow me to reintroduce myself.
[00:06:51] My name is hope.
[00:06:53] You know what I'm saying?
[00:06:54] He came out of the even when he was off because he
[00:06:59] had some early throws that was off back in the end zone
[00:07:01] and everything, but he was still in control.
[00:07:04] And you know, somebody asked me this morning, you know,
[00:07:07] hey, I thought you said Buffalo was going to win.
[00:07:10] What was the difference?
[00:07:11] I said, well, you know what?
[00:07:13] Kansas City had Patrick Mahomes and Andy Rean and
[00:07:16] Buffalo did.
[00:07:17] That's the answer.
[00:07:18] You know, you know, we got Diana.
[00:07:20] They don't.
[00:07:21] Yeah, you know, Kansas City pun it once.
[00:07:24] You know, we talked about bill bill.
[00:07:26] Shout out the bill bill.
[00:07:28] They put the chequeau didn't play when they met earlier this
[00:07:32] season.
[00:07:33] 15 for 97, 6.1 yards of carry.
[00:07:37] You know, Buffalo had success early.
[00:07:40] They ran 482 yards because that's always the question.
[00:07:43] Can buffalo run the ball?
[00:07:45] Yes, Buffalo can run the ball, but this is what happens.
[00:07:49] Josh, all the attention quarterbacks get all the
[00:07:53] attention quarterbacks get all the money.
[00:07:55] So at some point teams say, Josh, go win us the game.
[00:07:59] Even though we don't need you to throw a 70 yard pass,
[00:08:02] just do it anyway.
[00:08:04] And therefore, Stephon Diggs, I'm sorry.
[00:08:06] If you're gonna do all that bitching and whining,
[00:08:08] you gotta catch the ball.
[00:08:11] You know what I'm saying?
[00:08:12] It happens to the best of us,
[00:08:13] but you gotta catch the ball.
[00:08:15] You know?
[00:08:15] It's a tough position to be in when you,
[00:08:18] when you have a legitimate argument like,
[00:08:20] yo, I need to get more targets.
[00:08:21] I need to get the ball.
[00:08:22] I need to get more involved.
[00:08:24] And then you make the natural mistake.
[00:08:25] Like, you're gonna make one.
[00:08:27] You're gonna make a mistake.
[00:08:29] What did he end up with in that game?
[00:08:32] Some like three catches for like 21 or 27 yards.
[00:08:36] 21 yards, yes.
[00:08:37] And I saw a stat.
[00:08:40] I don't know how far back it went.
[00:08:41] I think it went back five weeks, but it was a 20.
[00:08:45] Yeah, him and Shakir.
[00:08:46] Shakir had 40 more yards than him
[00:08:48] on something like 42 less targets.
[00:08:53] It was something like that.
[00:08:54] But is the wide receiver position,
[00:08:58] I know it's a talent-based position,
[00:09:00] but is it an effort position
[00:09:02] where you just have to work to get open?
[00:09:04] Yes.
[00:09:05] And when you're frustrated,
[00:09:09] how hard are you working?
[00:09:11] Well, that's what made players like T.O. so great.
[00:09:15] T.O. is always open.
[00:09:16] Yeah, he put the same effort into blocking
[00:09:20] as he did trying to get open.
[00:09:24] 60 for Cat.
[00:09:26] When I look at, let's see, there you go.
[00:09:28] And when I look at Stefan Diggs,
[00:09:30] I see somebody that's either,
[00:09:33] he's just done with Buffalo.
[00:09:34] I don't know if-
[00:09:35] They probably could have moved them a year ago.
[00:09:37] Right.
[00:09:38] I don't know if it's a Josh Allen thing per se.
[00:09:41] Like he just doesn't mix with,
[00:09:43] like get along with Josh Allen,
[00:09:45] but he's just ready to leave Buffalo.
[00:09:46] I know that much.
[00:09:49] We remember the incident after the playoff game last year
[00:09:52] against Cincinnati, you know, like,
[00:09:54] which I want me to be happy about losing.
[00:09:56] Like, nah bro, that's not it.
[00:09:58] You know what I'm saying?
[00:09:59] But you're one of the leaders of this team.
[00:10:01] In the same way, granted much smaller level,
[00:10:04] but the same way that people come up to me
[00:10:06] and be like, yo, two five, what happened to Buffalo?
[00:10:09] I can't be like, fuck you, get out my face.
[00:10:12] Yeah.
[00:10:12] You know what I'm saying?
[00:10:13] I'm just be like, yo, I was wrong.
[00:10:15] You know what I'm saying?
[00:10:16] So you take your hat off to your opponent
[00:10:18] and you move on, you know?
[00:10:20] So like I mentioned, Buffalo 37 minutes time
[00:10:23] of possession, right?
[00:10:25] On third down.
[00:10:27] I don't even know what to do with this.
[00:10:30] Buffalo was seven to 14.
[00:10:33] You should win that game.
[00:10:34] Kansas City, one of five, five third downs
[00:10:40] in the whole game.
[00:10:41] So that tells you that was-
[00:10:43] How little they had the ball.
[00:10:45] And Buffalo's defense, you know,
[00:10:48] not either not forcing enough third downs
[00:10:51] because Kansas City only punted the one time
[00:10:53] and then missed the logic.
[00:10:55] I'm listening.
[00:10:56] What was that fake punt?
[00:10:58] Honestly, I think I was out grabbing food
[00:11:02] and I missed that part.
[00:11:03] So I think what happened was
[00:11:06] from what I was reading after the game,
[00:11:08] teams have like certain, if we see this,
[00:11:12] like a little-
[00:11:13] You know, this is what we're gonna do.
[00:11:14] Like when Pat McAfee talked about
[00:11:16] like the Palomalu getting in the gap,
[00:11:18] he was like, we're supposed to run in space
[00:11:19] and then Palomalu got in the gap.
[00:11:21] I was like, nah, I was gonna kick this.
[00:11:23] Right, right.
[00:11:24] And he-
[00:11:27] So, clue number one was
[00:11:30] DeMar Hamlin ended up with the ball.
[00:11:33] But what made it even worse was
[00:11:35] Kansas City had 10 men on the field
[00:11:39] and Buffalo still couldn't convert.
[00:11:41] And it was with 10 minutes left in the third quarter.
[00:11:45] There was no reason to gamble like that,
[00:11:47] you know, even if it was something
[00:11:49] that you think that you saw.
[00:11:51] You know, like your defense just gotta get a stop
[00:11:53] because we come back to the quarterbacks
[00:11:56] and all I've been hearing all day is
[00:11:58] Josh Allen choked again.
[00:12:00] Josh Allen can't win the big game.
[00:12:03] He can't beat my homes,
[00:12:04] but I got news for you.
[00:12:05] Not a lot of people can beat my homes.
[00:12:07] You know this is-
[00:12:08] It's not a lot in the playoffs.
[00:12:09] Yeah, I mean he's got three playoff losses.
[00:12:11] One or two guys, yeah.
[00:12:12] Yeah, he's got three playoff losses.
[00:12:16] One was with like no offensive line.
[00:12:19] Two were in overtime to Tom, I mean, to Joe Burrow.
[00:12:23] And Tom Brady went deep forward.
[00:12:27] And the Tom Brady won.
[00:12:28] Yeah, the Tom Brady won.
[00:12:29] They had the game one if it wasn't for the All-Sets call.
[00:12:32] Right, so you know,
[00:12:34] let's put some perspective on these things.
[00:12:37] You know, I am not gonna make excuses for Josh Allen
[00:12:41] because he let Spaggs dictate to him,
[00:12:45] you know what he was gonna do.
[00:12:47] You know, he turned into Mr. West Coast offense.
[00:12:51] He fumbled a time or two that he got lucky.
[00:12:55] You know, he threw up
[00:12:56] what should have been a pick by speed,
[00:12:59] you know, that was dropped.
[00:13:00] So Josh Allen definitely did enough to lose this game,
[00:13:05] but the defense only made Kansas City bump once.
[00:13:08] Yeah, I'm looking at this fake punt.
[00:13:13] I don't know, four to five seems like a lot.
[00:13:16] Yeah. If you're not throwing it.
[00:13:18] If you have a fake on with a throw,
[00:13:22] but they had two gunners on the left side.
[00:13:31] Yeah, I think they just came up to the line
[00:13:33] and made an audible.
[00:13:33] I don't think the call was to fake the punt.
[00:13:36] I think they came up to the line, saw something.
[00:13:39] Maybe they saw the 10-minute on the field.
[00:13:42] But even with that, it's like, you should still go
[00:13:45] for five yards, you should go with the throw.
[00:13:47] Like even your audible should have been like,
[00:13:50] check it to, you know, throwing it to the flat.
[00:13:54] Right.
[00:13:55] You know, because the run, those guys are already there.
[00:13:57] He's giving up the flat all night.
[00:14:01] You know, Josh Allen, like I can't blame him.
[00:14:04] I know it's easy to look at it and be like,
[00:14:06] could we talk about it?
[00:14:07] I don't think it's really a blame.
[00:14:08] I think it's just a matter of,
[00:14:10] there was like opportunities to make plays for each side.
[00:14:15] And one guy and his band of brothers,
[00:14:20] being Andy Reed and his team,
[00:14:23] they have just been known, yes,
[00:14:26] because they have Patrick Mahomes and they have Kelsey
[00:14:28] and for those years at Timey Kill,
[00:14:31] they just seem to make the play.
[00:14:33] And it's like you have to be able to do that.
[00:14:38] Josh Allen, he had to play.
[00:14:41] He had to play, he's dropped it.
[00:14:44] No, to Gabe Davis.
[00:14:46] He had it two years ago.
[00:14:47] Oh yeah.
[00:14:48] That could have changed like the whole trajectory
[00:14:50] because guys re-sign after you win playoff games,
[00:14:57] they stay, you know, like you,
[00:14:59] you get an opportunity to play another game.
[00:15:02] The guys that got, were getting torched
[00:15:03] in the, that Buffalo game,
[00:15:05] I don't know if they stay if Buffalo wins this Kansas City
[00:15:09] because there were so many holes in the defense,
[00:15:12] you would have to address it.
[00:15:14] But because they won and they went on,
[00:15:17] like you don't really think about it as heavily,
[00:15:20] but if that's your last bit of film you have is like,
[00:15:24] this dude Gabe Davis was running wide open
[00:15:25] to the slot all night long.
[00:15:28] And then maybe that puts Kansas City in position
[00:15:31] where like they lose a couple of players here and there.
[00:15:35] Josh Allen almost hit Shakir
[00:15:37] on a similar play to that Gabe Davis play last night too.
[00:15:40] Yeah, so it just, I don't know,
[00:15:44] you have to go back to the sideline
[00:15:46] and be like, yo, we're going to hit that next drive.
[00:15:50] Because I see a lot of plays like that
[00:15:51] that happened in the film.
[00:15:52] It kind of blows my mind.
[00:15:53] It's like you ran to play and it just didn't work.
[00:15:56] The long pass gets dropped, whatever the case may be.
[00:16:00] But it's like, okay, if you get that look again,
[00:16:03] run it again.
[00:16:05] Right.
[00:16:06] And sometimes I feel like Buffalo doesn't have the confidence
[00:16:09] to like run the next play again.
[00:16:12] Like run it again, make it happen, beat this team,
[00:16:16] get this monkey off your back.
[00:16:17] Steve Young had the same problem.
[00:16:19] Pey Manning had a lot of quarterbacks coming to the league
[00:16:22] in a couple of different ways or a few different ways.
[00:16:25] You come in with a lot of acclaim,
[00:16:26] a lot of highlights, a lot of hysteria
[00:16:30] and you don't pan out.
[00:16:33] You just don't, like you don't do it.
[00:16:34] Either early in your career
[00:16:35] or it just takes a while for you to get it going.
[00:16:38] Or you come in with no acclaim,
[00:16:40] Tom Brie, Brock Purdy and you just happen to just win.
[00:16:45] Patrick Mahone was the same way.
[00:16:46] They thought he was a project.
[00:16:47] They were like, can't believe Andy Reeves taking this guy
[00:16:49] when he already has Alex Smith.
[00:16:50] I remember they said that at the draft
[00:16:53] and then he comes in and he just plays well.
[00:16:55] CJ Strah just coming in and playing well.
[00:16:56] Bryce Young struggling.
[00:16:58] So you have all these different variances.
[00:17:00] I think with Josh Allen is like,
[00:17:04] you might get a couple of more opportunities
[00:17:13] to have a team this good to go this deep.
[00:17:16] You had a good run the last four years.
[00:17:19] You just came up against another team with a quarterback
[00:17:22] that just is better at making the winning play than you.
[00:17:26] It's not your fault.
[00:17:27] It's not like, oh, you're lacking.
[00:17:28] It's just one guy just,
[00:17:29] it's like walking into a room
[00:17:31] that's a taller guy there.
[00:17:33] He is just, he just has that thing right now.
[00:17:37] And you're gonna shoulder a lot of the blame
[00:17:41] because like, it was only so much good.
[00:17:42] I don't play defense.
[00:17:45] I don't come up with the game plan.
[00:17:46] Like we gotta stop my homes collectively as a unit.
[00:17:51] Not a lot of people have done it.
[00:17:54] So it's not like those years when Phillip Rivers
[00:17:57] was like losing a playoffs
[00:17:58] and you were the only team
[00:17:59] that couldn't beat the Chargers.
[00:18:01] No one's beaten the Chiefs consistently.
[00:18:04] No one's going up there a couple of times a year.
[00:18:06] I don't think anyone in division
[00:18:07] that last six years has beaten them twice one year.
[00:18:11] No, man.
[00:18:12] I mean Denver, every year multiple times.
[00:18:14] Denver beat them this year and-
[00:18:16] For the first time.
[00:18:17] That was for the first time since like 2015.
[00:18:20] And you know, the Raiders beat them
[00:18:23] and that was the first time in six tries.
[00:18:25] So Kansas City runs back to the-
[00:18:27] And this is their down year.
[00:18:29] Ask Russell Simmons, KC run you.
[00:18:31] You know what I'm saying?
[00:18:32] Like that's what it is.
[00:18:33] And you know, it ain't going nowhere
[00:18:36] because as long as they have Patrick Mahomes
[00:18:38] they have a shot, you know.
[00:18:40] And he seems to be willing to make team friendly deals
[00:18:43] because he bet on himself with that 450.
[00:18:48] Cause people say, oh, it's just a terrible deal.
[00:18:50] If I was his agent, I wouldn't do that.
[00:18:51] But I was like, he already had like two or three years
[00:18:55] of success when he signed that contract.
[00:18:57] So if he plays it all out,
[00:18:58] he's going to get his 450.
[00:18:59] So he's getting his $450 million.
[00:19:02] Right.
[00:19:03] If you, I think he had like a five year extension
[00:19:05] or something, they were like, oh, that's such a bad deal.
[00:19:07] But it was like, if he really believes that,
[00:19:09] yo, I'm going to be this guy for the next eight years.
[00:19:13] So I'll sign this deal and I'm going to get 450.
[00:19:15] And then you got obviously off the court stuff
[00:19:18] to Ditas Oakley, Head and Shoulders.
[00:19:22] State Farm.
[00:19:23] State Farm just his overall just ability to be
[00:19:27] what people want Dak to do with his contract.
[00:19:30] Like that kind of like, hey, look at what he's doing
[00:19:32] over there, but...
[00:19:34] So where does Buffalo go from here?
[00:19:39] You got Josh.
[00:19:42] You've got to find a way to keep the cheaper Y receivers.
[00:19:48] If you can move digs, I'd move them.
[00:19:51] Get whatever you can get.
[00:19:52] Couple of fifth round picks, couple of fourth round picks
[00:19:54] because people, everyone knows like he wants out.
[00:19:59] Like his brother posted on social media months ago.
[00:20:05] This is crazy, this dude has 60 points
[00:20:06] and they're not working the ball through him.
[00:20:08] I'm literally watch, I've literally looked,
[00:20:12] since he scored 60, I've watched him take two shots.
[00:20:15] Welcome to today's NBA.
[00:20:17] Like I get it Edwards, you're nice,
[00:20:20] but I'm like give that ball through
[00:20:21] and you're only up one on Charlotte.
[00:20:24] And he has 60 points
[00:20:24] so you're not working the ball through him
[00:20:25] with six minutes of it again.
[00:20:27] Listen, I don't understand the world.
[00:20:29] I'm trying to figure it out myself.
[00:20:31] But yeah, Buffalo like, I mean...
[00:20:34] Josh Allen money gets in next year.
[00:20:36] Josh Allen money's good.
[00:20:38] I like the...
[00:20:43] I like the way their defense is set up.
[00:20:45] I think McDermott's a good coach there.
[00:20:47] I don't think you should fire him.
[00:20:48] I know I was kind of like saying that stuff this year.
[00:20:53] You ain't got to say it, I'm saying it.
[00:20:56] I don't think you should fire him
[00:20:57] because what are you gonna get?
[00:21:00] See, people always say that.
[00:21:01] What does that mean?
[00:21:02] Like, you know what I mean?
[00:21:03] What do you...
[00:21:05] Like, you just need something different at times.
[00:21:09] You know, there's times where things run themselves.
[00:21:11] We'll see how Tennessee feels about that.
[00:21:14] No, Tennessee, I don't know what they were doing.
[00:21:16] Like not even the part...
[00:21:18] Well, not even the part that they fired Vrable
[00:21:21] but hopefully, I mean, we'll see if it works out.
[00:21:25] You know, he came up under Zack Taylor.
[00:21:27] We'll see if it works out.
[00:21:28] But I think Buffalo wouldn't hire a new OC like that.
[00:21:35] You know what I mean?
[00:21:36] I think Buffalo would have a more experienced
[00:21:40] head coaching contender that they're trying to hire.
[00:21:44] Like, where would you go?
[00:21:46] You're Buffalo.
[00:21:47] You moving off of McDermott and you bringing in Vrable?
[00:21:50] Maybe.
[00:21:52] I would look at Belichick if, you know,
[00:21:55] if Falcons don't lock it down.
[00:21:57] I would look at, you know, maybe going offensive
[00:22:03] but not necessarily young like Brian Callahan
[00:22:07] because I think he's only 39.
[00:22:09] You know, I didn't realize he was Bill Callahan's son.
[00:22:13] Yeah, see?
[00:22:14] There you go.
[00:22:15] Nephatism, baby, it happens.
[00:22:16] Yeah, so I'm not advocating for Buffalo
[00:22:19] to hire, you know, the Texans offensive coordinator
[00:22:22] or anything like that.
[00:22:24] You know what I'm saying?
[00:22:25] If I was, hold on.
[00:22:25] If I was Pat, I'd be pissed off at Anthony Edwards.
[00:22:28] He keeps shooting.
[00:22:29] Like I got 62 points.
[00:22:31] If you want to stay with defense,
[00:22:32] if you want to stay with defense,
[00:22:34] maybe I look at somebody like Brian Flores.
[00:22:38] Now that, I like this and I don't want an offensive coach
[00:22:46] in Atlanta because he's going to want to call plays.
[00:22:50] And watching Arthur Smith though the last three years,
[00:22:54] him calling plays always led to situations where
[00:23:01] he's thinking about two things or three things at once.
[00:23:04] Right.
[00:23:05] And it ends up costing.
[00:23:07] He's not in the game.
[00:23:08] He's not in the game.
[00:23:09] Like I used an example of,
[00:23:12] it was like a fourth and one against New Orleans
[00:23:13] week one last season.
[00:23:17] If I'm the offensive coordinator,
[00:23:19] all I'm thinking about is what play can I run next?
[00:23:24] But if I'm the head coach,
[00:23:26] I'm thinking is this makes sense to go for it here?
[00:23:29] What's the doubt?
[00:23:30] This is what analytics say.
[00:23:31] So I'm having at least a 15 minute,
[00:23:34] 15 second conversation.
[00:23:35] Right.
[00:23:36] Oh, he blew the layup to get 60.
[00:23:38] What if we don't get it?
[00:23:40] What if we don't get it?
[00:23:41] Where am I?
[00:23:42] Where's my defense at?
[00:23:42] But I was like,
[00:23:43] if I have just an offensive coordinator,
[00:23:46] this dude got 62 points in there down one
[00:23:48] and Charlotte with three minutes, 53 seconds left.
[00:23:51] And he just blew a layup to get 64.
[00:23:54] So I'm taking a guy like Ray Rool
[00:23:57] because he's a defensive coach.
[00:23:59] I'll take Florez,
[00:24:01] but I would have won an experience
[00:24:03] all offensive coordinator.
[00:24:04] Somebody that has some skin in the game
[00:24:07] and I would run that back.
[00:24:09] I know what people want me enemy
[00:24:11] to get a head coaching job,
[00:24:13] but if I'm an owner,
[00:24:14] I'm like, listen,
[00:24:17] I'm gonna get this guy's head coach.
[00:24:19] You can be my OC,
[00:24:20] but I'm gonna pay you
[00:24:23] I'm gonna pay you
[00:24:24] somewhat near head coaching money.
[00:24:27] So if the head coach is average at 7 million,
[00:24:32] I'm gonna give you five and a half.
[00:24:34] So you're not,
[00:24:36] I know you want to be a head coach,
[00:24:37] but I'm gonna pay you to show you like,
[00:24:39] I want you to stay here.
[00:24:40] I want you to,
[00:24:41] and I think that's a lot of it's probably that.
[00:24:43] Like, hey, this is security.
[00:24:45] I'm gonna lock you in for,
[00:24:47] you know, five and a half million a year.
[00:24:51] You know, maybe instead of you thinking
[00:24:52] you're the coaching waiting
[00:24:54] or you looking for another team.
[00:24:56] If another team is not willing to come through
[00:24:58] and definitively give you eight,
[00:24:59] you're like, I'm already here comfortable winning
[00:25:02] getting five and a half, six.
[00:25:05] Why do I want to go take over to Carolina Panthers?
[00:25:09] It potentially get fired in a year.
[00:25:10] Now that taints my reputation even more.
[00:25:14] Right.
[00:25:15] But yeah, that's what the guy was talking about
[00:25:16] when I was talking about at work.
[00:25:17] He was talking about you got to podcast.
[00:25:18] He was like, I would hire the enemy
[00:25:20] as the head coach and watched it.
[00:25:22] That's what he said.
[00:25:23] But I was like, they got purchased after he got his deal.
[00:25:28] So the new regime isn't aligned to him.
[00:25:33] And if you think about his history
[00:25:34] with the head coaching positions,
[00:25:36] maybe he doesn't have that kind of like
[00:25:38] that charm you need to just kind of...
[00:25:40] Well, I don't think you can hire him
[00:25:44] because off of training camp.
[00:25:46] And I remember doing a two five daily about...
[00:25:50] The players kind of feeling...
[00:25:52] ...saying that he was too harsh and too this and too that.
[00:25:55] Now, for me, that's probably the type of guy
[00:25:58] that I would want in there because I'm like...
[00:26:00] He probably came in like,
[00:26:01] yo, when you're winning in Kansas City,
[00:26:03] you can yell at Travis Kelsey
[00:26:05] because he just hoisted Super Bowl trophy.
[00:26:08] So he knows you cussing me out
[00:26:10] about not running my route at full speed
[00:26:13] will get me through the Super Bowl.
[00:26:15] Washington is like, I'm just fresh off the bus.
[00:26:18] Like, what are you yelling at me for?
[00:26:20] He didn't know what he was saying.
[00:26:21] That's why I used to say that about Russell Westbrook
[00:26:24] where maybe he needed a coach that had championships
[00:26:30] because if you were just a regular dude,
[00:26:31] he wasn't trying to listen to you
[00:26:32] no matter how smart you were,
[00:26:35] you could have been clairvoyant.
[00:26:36] But he didn't want to hear what you had to say
[00:26:39] because you ain't done what he's trying to do.
[00:26:41] So when I look at these Washington dudes,
[00:26:44] they were used to just half-assin' it
[00:26:47] and there was no big deal made about it.
[00:26:51] So when Eric Biennamy comes in there
[00:26:53] because he's trying to build culture to some degree,
[00:26:55] you know what he's like?
[00:26:56] No, I need you to do it right.
[00:26:58] Do it the way I taught you,
[00:26:59] not the way that you know it.
[00:27:02] Then these guys are like,
[00:27:04] yo, what's up with this dude?
[00:27:05] It's only training camp.
[00:27:07] Exactly.
[00:27:08] This is when championships are won.
[00:27:11] But that's what I'm saying.
[00:27:12] If the Buffalo Bills players still are listening
[00:27:14] to McDermott, because basically
[00:27:17] you're looking at it like this.
[00:27:19] If that field goal goes through,
[00:27:22] so the final dig is not listening to anybody,
[00:27:24] just him and his brother.
[00:27:25] That field goal goes through, the game's tied,
[00:27:29] Kansas City has to punt because for whatever reason
[00:27:32] and they get the ball back
[00:27:33] and Buffalo kicks the last second field going wins.
[00:27:38] How much of that extra minute of football was like,
[00:27:42] oh, this is where Sean McDermott's value is.
[00:27:45] Right.
[00:27:46] Like he had value before that kick,
[00:27:48] before that ball was snapped.
[00:27:49] Right, right.
[00:27:51] It's one thing is like if you have a coach that's like,
[00:27:54] you're never gonna get us anywhere.
[00:27:57] Right.
[00:27:58] Over the hump is tough.
[00:27:59] But sometimes like, if you have a coach like,
[00:28:01] listen, you're not gonna get us anywhere.
[00:28:03] You're seven and 10, seven and 10, seven and 10.
[00:28:06] You're not gonna get us anywhere.
[00:28:07] Mike McCarthy, 12 and five, 12 and five, 12 and five.
[00:28:09] It's like, you got enough winning on your resume
[00:28:13] for me to believe in you as an owner.
[00:28:15] I think McDermott has enough winning on his resume
[00:28:18] for the leadership to believe in him.
[00:28:21] This guy has 62 points and they got him on a bench
[00:28:25] in crunch time.
[00:28:25] That's three.
[00:28:26] Defined winning, you know,
[00:28:28] one AFC championship game got punked out
[00:28:31] by Cincinnati last year on their home field.
[00:28:34] You know.
[00:28:35] Like what is it?
[00:28:36] What is it half the teams don't make the playoffs
[00:28:38] the following year?
[00:28:40] Some, so it was like 12, 14 teams.
[00:28:44] I think now with the 14, like six or seven
[00:28:47] don't make the playoffs the following year.
[00:28:49] They made the playoffs every year.
[00:28:51] Sometimes you just gotta put yourself
[00:28:52] just to have a chance.
[00:28:55] It isn't always gonna work in your favor.
[00:28:57] I mean, and that's why you evaluate,
[00:29:00] you know what I mean?
[00:29:01] You say, where are we today that we weren't three years ago?
[00:29:06] You know, two, three years ago
[00:29:08] we were in the AFC championship game
[00:29:10] and we haven't got back.
[00:29:12] Meanwhile, I watched Joe Burrow make two.
[00:29:15] You know, my home's the went six years in a row.
[00:29:17] Not you can't obviously, we can't do that.
[00:29:20] That's asking a lot.
[00:29:22] But that's the thing that people are going to use
[00:29:26] as the argument is gonna be like,
[00:29:28] this other team is doing this.
[00:29:31] This other team is built there for their.
[00:29:33] But think about it though, you got Kansas City, right?
[00:29:36] Six straight AFC title games.
[00:29:38] You know, you got Baltimore entering the chat.
[00:29:41] You know what I mean?
[00:29:42] And they look like they might be around for a few years.
[00:29:45] You know, I mean, this all changes injuries,
[00:29:47] you know, all that kind of, but just sitting here today
[00:29:49] Baltimore looks like they're not going anywhere.
[00:29:52] You know, you got Burrow was out this year.
[00:29:55] You know, he's back next year.
[00:29:57] You know, Jacksonville didn't make the playoffs this year,
[00:30:01] but I'm sure they'll be back.
[00:30:03] You know, you do strive Burrow is really,
[00:30:06] I know people want to say he's that guy, but it's like,
[00:30:10] I mean, I'm not saying whether he is an isn't.
[00:30:11] I'm just saying the results are the results.
[00:30:13] Your quarterback bears the burrow.
[00:30:15] So like you're not, you're not lacking
[00:30:18] in the major department.
[00:30:20] You're eating and there's no definitive move
[00:30:24] you can make that's going to make
[00:30:27] going to put you over the top.
[00:30:28] But now, but now you also got a CJ Stroud and the Texans,
[00:30:34] you know, maybe they don't make the playoffs next year.
[00:30:36] Maybe this year, you know, they came out of nowhere.
[00:30:39] Maybe they fall out, but even if they fall out,
[00:30:41] you still got Miami in your own division.
[00:30:44] You know, you got Aaron Rodgers coming back.
[00:30:46] Who knows what he'll look like,
[00:30:47] but Aaron Rodgers is coming back in your division.
[00:30:50] You got Nicole.
[00:30:51] So who, so who make, but that's what I'm saying.
[00:30:54] So you have a bunch of good teams.
[00:30:57] What do you, what do you, where is your benefit?
[00:31:00] Like who are you bringing in if you get rid of McDermott?
[00:31:04] That's going to be like, oh, because we brought this guy
[00:31:07] in right now you're just in the mix
[00:31:09] of the top seven teams of your conference.
[00:31:12] Well, that's where you
[00:31:13] in that that's what you want to be as he maxed out.
[00:31:16] You have to ask that.
[00:31:17] But that's what I'm saying.
[00:31:20] Like all that, that's, I think people just kind of want
[00:31:22] they put cat on the bench again.
[00:31:24] No, I just think, I just think that like,
[00:31:27] like, like I always talk about Darren Williams
[00:31:29] and Carlos Boozer.
[00:31:31] You had seven years.
[00:31:33] Why am I supposed to believe that now
[00:31:37] you're going to get further
[00:31:38] or you're going to do more than you did?
[00:31:40] Yeah, but that that combination was in a situation
[00:31:44] where you were going to be competing.
[00:31:47] But we don't know what's going on.
[00:31:49] Because basketball is different.
[00:31:50] Because basketball is different.
[00:31:52] Cause all you got to do is when
[00:31:54] you got to win the four out of seven again.
[00:31:57] I don't know how you measure that.
[00:31:59] I don't know if you measure it with team wins
[00:32:01] or if you measure it with team success.
[00:32:03] If you look at his quarterback,
[00:32:04] the quarterback has gotten better every year.
[00:32:06] So is that the coach?
[00:32:09] The defense is a formidable every single year.
[00:32:11] I say that but he's not.
[00:32:14] But the defense is formidable every year.
[00:32:16] They're top five, top six, top seven
[00:32:18] every year that he's been with a whole lot of talent.
[00:32:22] Well, so a lot of teams have talent that'll make it work.
[00:32:26] Atlanta has a lot of offensive talent.
[00:32:27] Are you threatened by Arthur Smith game plan
[00:32:30] with that offensive talent?
[00:32:32] No, and that's why he out of there.
[00:32:34] But that's what I'm saying.
[00:32:35] He's doing well with the talent that he has.
[00:32:37] Like it's not like they're out there getting blown out.
[00:32:40] Like they're out there performing every single week.
[00:32:42] I just, my thing is like, I know it's like,
[00:32:44] oh, what are you going to do better?
[00:32:47] It's like you're in,
[00:32:48] you're in the only spot you really could ask for as a team,
[00:32:51] which is we are among the better,
[00:32:55] the top three or four teams in our division
[00:32:58] or our conference.
[00:33:00] We just got to beat one of the other two every so often.
[00:33:06] I mean, who would have thought Philadelphia
[00:33:07] was going to win a two Super Bowls without Andy Reed?
[00:33:12] Just one.
[00:33:13] I mean, just one, sorry.
[00:33:14] But, you know, who thought they were going to win
[00:33:15] a Super Bowl without Andy Reed
[00:33:17] after making five straight NFC championship games?
[00:33:21] Like sometimes these things don't work.
[00:33:23] Yeah, that's good.
[00:33:23] I wanted to argue that, but that was a good one.
[00:33:26] Like sometimes, you know, I'm not saying that,
[00:33:28] I'm not saying that I dislike Sean McDermott.
[00:33:30] I'm not saying that I don't think
[00:33:32] that Sean McDermott is a good coach.
[00:33:35] I'm just saying that sometimes
[00:33:37] things just run their course.
[00:33:39] Doug Collins was a good coach.
[00:33:40] They brought Phil Jackson in.
[00:33:42] They won titles.
[00:33:43] I'm not saying that Phil Jackson was the only reason
[00:33:45] because obviously Scotty Pippen had to mature
[00:33:48] and, you know, grow and develop.
[00:33:50] Jordan, we saw the documentary.
[00:33:52] Jordan has started hitting the weights
[00:33:53] at least the way they tell the story.
[00:33:55] Sometimes these things just happen that way.
[00:33:56] I don't know.
[00:33:57] You know what I'm saying?
[00:33:59] I'm not saying that it should be a no brainer.
[00:34:02] Like wake up, Sean McDermott's gone.
[00:34:06] Not saying that.
[00:34:07] I'm just saying y'all need to have some conversations
[00:34:10] and figure out do we think we have another level
[00:34:13] to get to?
[00:34:14] If the answer is no, then what we doing?
[00:34:19] That's all.
[00:34:20] That's all.
[00:34:22] You know what I'm saying?
[00:34:23] So I was sitting up in here, you know,
[00:34:26] and I've been talking all season.
[00:34:29] Baking turd overs.
[00:34:31] Yeah, about how-
[00:34:33] You're a troll.
[00:34:34] You're a troll, Mike.
[00:34:37] How Tampa can't run the ball.
[00:34:41] They come out yesterday.
[00:34:42] They average 5.9 yards a carry on the road in a playoff game
[00:34:47] and they only give the dude 15 carries.
[00:34:49] You know, Baker may feel through for 349 yards
[00:34:53] but he threw two picks.
[00:34:56] You know, Tampa had a chance potentially
[00:34:59] to get the ball back,
[00:35:00] but as I like to call them dumbass bowls,
[00:35:03] you know, didn't want to use his last and final time
[00:35:07] out the stop clock and try to get the ball back.
[00:35:09] They just waved the white flag
[00:35:11] and now they're going to go back to their fun pirate ship
[00:35:15] and you know, wait for August to come back for preseason.
[00:35:19] So how impressed were you with the Lions win yesterday?
[00:35:26] I was impressed.
[00:35:28] I'm just looking like, I'm sorry I'm distracted.
[00:35:30] Audience, if you're watching on YouTube,
[00:35:34] call Anthony Towns, 62 points.
[00:35:39] Nah, that was no foul player.
[00:35:40] And then they're going to lose.
[00:35:44] He lost the ball, but it was good effort.
[00:35:48] I'm not surprised.
[00:35:49] I think like I said, I picked Detroit
[00:35:51] and I picked them to win like the way they did,
[00:35:53] which is basically just be physical, be smart
[00:35:59] and just rely on your talent advantage over the bucks
[00:36:06] because it was back and forth.
[00:36:07] It was a good game
[00:36:08] but it was very similar to the Pittsburgh,
[00:36:12] I mean the score is identical with Pittsburgh Buffalo game.
[00:36:15] You had a team that couldn't make any mistakes
[00:36:19] because you're at a talent disadvantage off the rip.
[00:36:22] So they couldn't make any mistakes
[00:36:24] and then they throw an opening drive interception
[00:36:27] kind of sets the tone.
[00:36:28] The defense, they keep them in,
[00:36:30] but then Jamelle Jean drops the pick in the end zone
[00:36:36] and then the trains have gotten three points
[00:36:37] and they go back and forth.
[00:36:39] So final score being 31, 23, it's perfect.
[00:36:45] Two point conversion.
[00:36:47] The two point conversion, I understand.
[00:36:49] You didn't like it.
[00:36:50] You didn't like it.
[00:36:51] I didn't like it because essentially you put yourself
[00:36:56] in a position where the expectation is
[00:37:00] if this two point conversion doesn't work,
[00:37:03] I got another two point conversion play
[00:37:06] that's gonna work and crunch time later.
[00:37:09] It's unseen logical because I get the mathematics of it
[00:37:13] because the argument is like, oh yeah.
[00:37:17] I see the mathematics because I've seen another game.
[00:37:20] Atlanta did it against Washington early this year
[00:37:26] and I see it's okay.
[00:37:28] I thought you were against Dallas.
[00:37:30] No, Detroit, what Detroit did was like,
[00:37:32] I wanna go for the win right now
[00:37:35] but I'm talking about it was the same thing.
[00:37:36] It was like Atlanta scored, they were down eight
[00:37:42] because they were gonna be down.
[00:37:47] They could have been down seven
[00:37:48] if they kicked extra point.
[00:37:49] They scored a touchdown, they were down eight
[00:37:51] and they were gonna go for two, get the ball back,
[00:37:54] score a touchdown, I'll kick the field goal
[00:37:55] and win because kicking the extra point,
[00:38:01] 62 points for nothing.
[00:38:04] A little shame, my Kentucky Wildcat.
[00:38:09] They didn't get him the ball, Lee.
[00:38:10] Like they didn't work the ball to him at all.
[00:38:12] Like if you watched it, like if you watched it,
[00:38:14] he had like four or five shots in the-
[00:38:16] They shit and B took 41 shots to get 70.
[00:38:19] They kept taking them out of the game.
[00:38:21] He was sitting on the bench a couple times
[00:38:22] with less than six minutes left.
[00:38:23] But okay, back to what I'm saying.
[00:38:24] So because it's easier to kick the extra point.
[00:38:30] So the logic of like, oh, we're gonna get this quick
[00:38:34] two point conversion off, B down six,
[00:38:36] get the ball back, get another touchdown
[00:38:38] and then just kick extra point for the win.
[00:38:41] But it's like, I think even in that game,
[00:38:44] I think Slare if I was calling it,
[00:38:46] of the Falcons game is like,
[00:38:48] because a penalty happened.
[00:38:50] Like there was a penalty on Washington.
[00:38:55] No, it was like fourth and one or fourth and two.
[00:38:58] They got the touchdown.
[00:39:00] It took a couple of plays,
[00:39:01] it was like a couple of penalties.
[00:39:03] And then they went for two and Slare was like,
[00:39:05] listen you only come in the game
[00:39:07] with like three or four of these plays that really work.
[00:39:11] So for Tampa Bay to go for it then,
[00:39:13] it's like you're working on the fact
[00:39:15] that you don't get this.
[00:39:18] The other play you had on that call sheet
[00:39:20] is gonna pan out.
[00:39:23] So I didn't think that was,
[00:39:25] I didn't think it was feasible.
[00:39:26] You know my-
[00:39:27] The trade was never gonna get rattled.
[00:39:29] They were gonna go for it,
[00:39:30] they were gonna dominate.
[00:39:32] You know my answer.
[00:39:34] You're stupid.
[00:39:36] No, I like it.
[00:39:39] What?
[00:39:40] You know.
[00:39:41] I like it.
[00:39:41] Really?
[00:39:42] Yeah.
[00:39:44] You remember when we had this conversation
[00:39:46] about Buffalo and Baltimore a couple of years ago?
[00:39:50] That was, that was,
[00:39:53] that was the one when Baltimore went for,
[00:39:56] on fourth and-
[00:39:57] You remember what I kept saying in that conversation?
[00:40:01] Lower the game.
[00:40:03] You know what I'm saying?
[00:40:03] Like look, Tampa wasn't stopping Detroit.
[00:40:07] You know, so you gotta take chances.
[00:40:09] They're the underdog,
[00:40:10] they weren't supposed to be here.
[00:40:12] You just gotta leave it all out on the field.
[00:40:14] You know,
[00:40:17] I'm not saying that in every situation,
[00:40:20] I think this was the right call.
[00:40:23] I'm just saying that there's circumstances sometimes
[00:40:26] when the game is going a certain way,
[00:40:29] that you just go for it.
[00:40:31] Like, you know, and on that play,
[00:40:33] you know, there was some face guarding going on,
[00:40:35] you know, Mike Evans couldn't get to the ball.
[00:40:38] That's what he said, Mike.
[00:40:39] You gotta stop and come back to the ball,
[00:40:40] but it's like,
[00:40:42] you got it, like, I don't like plays where
[00:40:46] the own, like it has to be this way.
[00:40:48] Like-
[00:40:49] Right, right, right.
[00:40:50] That's the best pass for this situation for it to be.
[00:40:55] Yeah, so that's my problem.
[00:40:57] My problem isn't going for two.
[00:40:59] My problem is the plays that they call
[00:41:02] when they go for two.
[00:41:03] You know, as, you know, Cups likes to call
[00:41:07] Baker Bayfield, you know, Big Play Bake,
[00:41:11] you know, saying I have coined Quick Strike Mike.
[00:41:15] So I understand why you wanna go to Mike Evans.
[00:41:20] But you can also use Mike Evans as a decoy.
[00:41:23] Every team rushes that play.
[00:41:26] Yes.
[00:41:27] Like it seems like every two point conversion is
[00:41:30] first read go.
[00:41:32] Yes.
[00:41:33] Like, you have time and all the time,
[00:41:36] you got plenty of space.
[00:41:37] I mean-
[00:41:38] If you need to drop back five to ten yards.
[00:41:40] I mean, to be fair,
[00:41:42] he had been sacked four times.
[00:41:43] So he probably, you know,
[00:41:45] I ain't gonna say he was rattled,
[00:41:46] but you know, he was probably just a little,
[00:41:48] you know, a little quicker than me.
[00:41:49] But I see it a lot on that.
[00:41:51] I see it because that is,
[00:41:53] because I don't think it's a good play.
[00:41:57] I don't think it's like a smart play to call
[00:42:00] in that situation because it's no finality to it.
[00:42:04] It's like a, you have a built-in safety that's saying
[00:42:07] like, oh, if we don't get it, we can go for two later.
[00:42:11] So it's rushed.
[00:42:12] I think people make a rushed decision
[00:42:14] when they make that call.
[00:42:17] Yeah. So, you know, Baker Bayfield,
[00:42:20] you know, I just think that
[00:42:23] they, the Bucks overachieve
[00:42:26] and I think when you're in a position of overachieving,
[00:42:30] you just push the envelope a little bit.
[00:42:32] You know, I don't think,
[00:42:34] I mean, they stopped Detroit at the end.
[00:42:36] They could have had a chance to get the ball back
[00:42:39] if their coach would have called the time out,
[00:42:41] but he didn't.
[00:42:42] He just waved the white flag
[00:42:44] and said, no Moss, you know, would a chance to win that game.
[00:42:47] So maybe he should be fired.
[00:42:49] I mean, nevermind.
[00:42:50] So like-
[00:42:51] I think it was, he only had like one time out.
[00:42:55] You know, I mean, you got-
[00:42:57] I don't know if they're,
[00:42:58] I don't know if you're getting the ball back though.
[00:43:00] I mean, it's only one way to find out, right?
[00:43:02] We've seen-
[00:43:03] Yeah, because they were taking knees.
[00:43:04] We saw crazy things happen before.
[00:43:08] But you know, I think that
[00:43:11] Tampa should feel proud about this season.
[00:43:15] You know, Baker Bayfield's gonna want some money.
[00:43:17] We'll see if they pay him.
[00:43:19] You know, I know Mike Evans wanted to get paid
[00:43:21] and he gave them a heart date of let's get this done.
[00:43:26] And they let it slide right on by.
[00:43:28] So if you're going to bring back Baker Bayfield,
[00:43:30] I would imagine he wants Mike Evans back as well.
[00:43:33] You gotta bring back Mike Evans.
[00:43:34] So-
[00:43:35] Like, it's just not even smart to think otherwise.
[00:43:38] You gotta see.
[00:43:39] We don't have Mike Evans.
[00:43:41] Look at Carolina.
[00:43:44] Look at Kansas City this year.
[00:43:47] Look at teams that didn't have a bona fide,
[00:43:50] number one wide receiver to marry with their quarterback
[00:43:55] and see how they, that worked out for them.
[00:43:58] Speaking of which, speaking of which,
[00:44:02] you know, I didn't plan on doing this,
[00:44:04] but pop quiz, since you brought them up,
[00:44:08] how many touchdown passes did Bryce Young have this year?
[00:44:20] 20.
[00:44:22] 11.
[00:44:23] That's it?
[00:44:24] 11.
[00:44:25] I thought 20 was being generous.
[00:44:28] Oh, obviously it was.
[00:44:30] Like I thought it was like, you know, I give them some credit.
[00:44:32] You're Santa.
[00:44:35] 11 touchdown passes.
[00:44:37] You're Santa with that generosity
[00:44:39] and out of feeling at four of those.
[00:44:43] It has to be some cat, like some quarterbacks
[00:44:45] through four in a game, multiple quarterbacks
[00:44:47] through four in one game.
[00:44:49] Not Kenny Pickett.
[00:44:50] Kenny Pickett didn't throw for multiple touchdowns
[00:44:52] all year, right?
[00:44:53] He's got it.
[00:44:56] And Bryce Young had turned their receptions
[00:44:57] to go with it.
[00:44:59] You know, so there you go.
[00:45:00] He out there playing rec basketball.
[00:45:03] But before we move on, Dan Campbell,
[00:45:06] here's our message.
[00:45:08] I've been saying this all year long
[00:45:11] and now I'm going to take it too far.
[00:45:13] You know what I'm saying?
[00:45:14] So yesterday, Jamira Gibbs,
[00:45:17] nine carries 74 yards.
[00:45:21] Time on Gumbary.
[00:45:22] Yo, David Montgomery.
[00:45:23] I always say time on Gumbary.
[00:45:24] David Montgomery, 10 rushes for 33 yards.
[00:45:29] What are we doing?
[00:45:30] Give the ball to the dude that is going to show us
[00:45:34] that Reggie Bush was just before his time.
[00:45:38] Listen, I like getting my speed back,
[00:45:43] my potential outside runner, nine to 10 carries.
[00:45:48] I don't need him getting it.
[00:45:49] You don't need 18 times.
[00:45:51] No, he need like 15.
[00:45:53] You need 15 touches, not 15 rushes.
[00:45:56] So I get him two, I get him a couple of screenings.
[00:45:58] Well, he got four catches too.
[00:45:59] He had four catches too.
[00:46:00] Yeah, I get him a screen and a couple of screens
[00:46:05] and then nine to 10 rushes
[00:46:08] and hope he can be dynamic on those nine to 10.
[00:46:11] And guess what?
[00:46:12] He will just give him a damn ball.
[00:46:15] That's all I need.
[00:46:16] Because all I need is that
[00:46:18] because when I put him in the game
[00:46:19] and I'm not giving him the ball
[00:46:20] and I run that play action,
[00:46:22] now I got Amarasi Brown wide open on deep crosses
[00:46:25] because you don't want to just overuse.
[00:46:28] I know that guys have a lot of talent
[00:46:30] but you got to use it appropriately.
[00:46:32] You got to like give it to him in these different spots.
[00:46:35] Montgomery is your banger.
[00:46:37] He's your bell cal back.
[00:46:38] He's the guy that's gonna get you two
[00:46:41] or 10 carries in between the tackles.
[00:46:45] Give him that, let him beat down on a defense
[00:46:49] and then let Gibbs hit the outside
[00:46:53] and then work the play action
[00:46:55] because Jared golf is great in play action
[00:46:57] because he's a smart quarterback, very accurate.
[00:47:03] So if you give him play action and you got,
[00:47:05] and especially the way they worked the tight end,
[00:47:08] the tight end and the slot wide receivers.
[00:47:11] I'm not making my pick yet for NFC championship game
[00:47:15] but I'm thinking I'm going some things over.
[00:47:19] Yeah, I got you.
[00:47:21] I got you but speaking of which,
[00:47:24] you know we talked about it,
[00:47:27] 21 touchdowns, one interception.
[00:47:31] And then Jordan love me two throws that you just can't make.
[00:47:36] Can't throw the ball back cross another field lead,
[00:47:38] you know and quarterback 101, especially that deep.
[00:47:42] Yeah, man, Greenlaw got him both times.
[00:47:47] You know I was shocked actually though
[00:47:50] at the success that Green Bay had
[00:47:51] running the ball against San Francisco.
[00:47:54] You know so Aaron Jones,
[00:47:55] healthy Aaron Jones is a monster.
[00:47:58] You know so hopefully he can stay healthy going forward
[00:48:01] but this is what I wanted to talk about was here.
[00:48:05] Get off Brock Purdy's nuts.
[00:48:09] Like look, so I understand right context matters.
[00:48:13] You know what I mean?
[00:48:13] Like he didn't have a good first half.
[00:48:15] I'm not gonna sit up here and try to act like he did.
[00:48:18] You know, but if you,
[00:48:20] but he didn't have any turnovers.
[00:48:22] You know, you look at his numbers.
[00:48:25] He threw for more yards than both
[00:48:27] Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes.
[00:48:30] He didn't have the two turnovers that Baker Mayfield had.
[00:48:34] He had the game winning draw.
[00:48:36] Now any other quote,
[00:48:39] well I ain't gonna say any other quote of that
[00:48:40] hyperbole of course, you know, but you know,
[00:48:44] Tom Brady does that.
[00:48:46] He's a hero.
[00:48:48] You know.
[00:48:48] John L. Wade gets the ball to throw Davis 900 times
[00:48:52] in two years.
[00:48:53] Hero.
[00:48:53] He's a hero.
[00:48:54] So all I'm saying is let quarterbacks grow.
[00:49:01] You know, Brock Purdy finished the game
[00:49:05] the way that you want your quarterback to finish the game
[00:49:09] on a drive that can get you a win.
[00:49:12] Now he is not Tom Brady.
[00:49:16] He is not Patrick Mahomes,
[00:49:19] but so far there ain't a damn thing wrong
[00:49:21] with being Brock Purdy.
[00:49:23] And everybody talks about the talent that he has around him
[00:49:27] and that's what makes him great.
[00:49:29] He did this without Debo.
[00:49:31] Everyone needs talent.
[00:49:33] Now.
[00:49:34] Let's say you win.
[00:49:35] Let's say you win at business.
[00:49:37] Let's say you win at any point.
[00:49:38] You can't play spades with just having
[00:49:41] all clubs in your hand.
[00:49:42] Like you need some bangers in order to be successful.
[00:49:46] You know, 23 of 39 for 252.
[00:49:50] Like this is his second year as a starter.
[00:49:55] And he also didn't start last season right away.
[00:49:59] You know, he came in late after Garoppolo got hurt.
[00:50:02] And everyone thought San Francisco,
[00:50:04] they thought Shanahan was done.
[00:50:06] The season was over.
[00:50:07] The trade-land deal was an abomination to trade deals.
[00:50:11] And then he came in like, all right, cool.
[00:50:13] Mr. Relevant.
[00:50:14] And guess what?
[00:50:15] And guess what?
[00:50:17] Back in the NFC championship game
[00:50:19] for the second year in a row.
[00:50:21] Green Bay, two-for-five in the red zone.
[00:50:24] That ain't gonna get it done against the number one seed.
[00:50:28] You know, but I don't wanna take anything away
[00:50:31] from Green Bay.
[00:50:33] That game was a lot closer than I thought
[00:50:35] it was gonna be.
[00:50:37] Green Bay showed, even though they lost,
[00:50:40] they showed that that game against Dallas wasn't a fluke.
[00:50:44] Cause early in the first half,
[00:50:46] Green Bay still had open receivers.
[00:50:49] You know, San Francisco adjusted into second half
[00:50:52] because they're the better team.
[00:50:54] And that's what the great teams do.
[00:50:58] They come out a little sluggish,
[00:51:00] but it's time to put that bice on you
[00:51:04] and choke you up.
[00:51:06] The miss field goal was huge
[00:51:08] because that changes how Green Bay plays.
[00:51:12] They played differently with the seven point lead
[00:51:16] and momentum for lack of a better word
[00:51:20] than a four point lead and angst.
[00:51:23] Right.
[00:51:23] Like we could have been up seven,
[00:51:26] we could have just been protecting, you know,
[00:51:28] San Francisco's not going for two
[00:51:29] if they score a touchdown.
[00:51:31] So you're thinking like, oh,
[00:51:32] we're not gonna lose this game
[00:51:34] if we give up a touchdown, we're gonna get the ball back.
[00:51:38] But being up four, miss field goal,
[00:51:42] ball damn near midfield.
[00:51:43] Cause you know, the way you put the ball down,
[00:51:45] miss field goal, that's what a team takes over.
[00:51:47] It's a different kind of like angst that comes over you,
[00:51:50] different kind of like pressure.
[00:51:53] And I think they just counter came to it.
[00:51:56] You know, it was just like the better team,
[00:51:59] you can't give the better team great options
[00:52:04] because they're gonna capitalize eventually.
[00:52:06] They're gonna have that drive
[00:52:08] where they have their all pro running back.
[00:52:10] Granted, D-ball wasn't in there,
[00:52:13] but Brock Purdy, all pro, pro bowl quarterback,
[00:52:17] couch in a hand, you know, pretty good coach,
[00:52:22] pretty good win-loss record.
[00:52:23] I know like, I know his fourth quarter records
[00:52:25] like being down seven and all of that.
[00:52:28] It just, but like he's not at death throwing the ball.
[00:52:31] He does put it together.
[00:52:32] Like I said, I'm still a little bit bitter
[00:52:35] about the Super Bowl victory.
[00:52:36] Right, right.
[00:52:38] Or he could have just ran the ball two times
[00:52:41] and I would be talking about Atlanta
[00:52:43] in a way different light.
[00:52:45] You know, you know the new rule around the NFL, right?
[00:52:49] Was that when it out, throw it on fourth down?
[00:52:52] When in doubt, throw it to Iowa tight end.
[00:52:56] But that's the new move.
[00:52:57] That's the new move.
[00:52:59] Go get you a Iowa tight end.
[00:53:01] You need to get one of these guys
[00:53:02] go get the Iowa cornerback white guy.
[00:53:05] For the team, yeah.
[00:53:07] I like the year that they had Green Bay,
[00:53:10] I like their playoff run.
[00:53:12] Watching the game, I was like,
[00:53:16] they might win this game.
[00:53:18] And then when they set up for the field goal,
[00:53:20] I was like, they're gonna go up seven.
[00:53:21] This late in the game.
[00:53:23] I was scared because he's missed more kicks
[00:53:25] than anybody in the NFL this year.
[00:53:29] Like I said, in that distance, you know,
[00:53:31] you're not thinking that guys
[00:53:32] are just gonna be missing these kicks.
[00:53:34] Yeah, when you go for two, you're not thinking that.
[00:53:37] You're like going for two.
[00:53:39] I think the percentage of going for two successfully
[00:53:45] and extra points, it's probably less.
[00:53:49] Like the goal is probably less successful.
[00:53:51] It might not be that much,
[00:53:53] but most they don't go for it that often.
[00:53:55] It's not a thing that happens a lot.
[00:53:58] But like I said, in that 40 to 45 range,
[00:54:04] like I'm banking on my kicker.
[00:54:07] Those guys are kicking that with ease.
[00:54:08] I mean, the way Justin Tucker kicks 50 yard field goals
[00:54:11] is how to rest of the league kicks 40 yard field goals
[00:54:15] with just ease and it's like, oh, this is what we do.
[00:54:17] I came out here, I'm just gonna stroke this kick
[00:54:19] and we're gonna go up seven points.
[00:54:21] Like the young boy from Cincinnati
[00:54:23] when he kicked a field goal
[00:54:25] and they as he championed the game
[00:54:26] and they say walking onto the field,
[00:54:28] he looked at the coach and said,
[00:54:29] we're going to the Super Bowl
[00:54:31] before he walked onto the field.
[00:54:33] And overtime in Arrowhead,
[00:54:36] he was like, coach were going to Super Bowl
[00:54:38] and he's saying jogged out there and kicked it.
[00:54:40] I was like, but that's how most of them like,
[00:54:44] but that's what you expect.
[00:54:46] Right.
[00:54:47] I don't like Dallas offense.
[00:54:48] It just seems to jump.
[00:54:51] I like how you shot out the ball Irvin North Jersey
[00:54:54] in the building.
[00:54:55] So yeah, like I thought it was a good game.
[00:54:58] I think it might give Detroit a little bit of information
[00:55:03] on where the holes are with San Francisco.
[00:55:08] Cause there seemed to be some
[00:55:09] cause they didn't play great.
[00:55:13] And like those, like that three game losing streak
[00:55:16] and this game I think you can look at that
[00:55:18] and kind of look at the Baltimore games.
[00:55:19] Okay.
[00:55:20] What can we do to adversely affect Brock Perry?
[00:55:28] Brock Perry.
[00:55:31] And he doesn't have a history of coming from behind.
[00:55:36] He doesn't have history of starting slow
[00:55:37] and then getting better.
[00:55:39] Some guys do that.
[00:55:40] Josh Allen's guy, he can start slow and get better.
[00:55:41] Baker Mayfield's guy starts slow and get better.
[00:55:44] Jared Goff starts slow and get better.
[00:55:48] Obviously my home's Brady.
[00:55:50] But we think about a guy like Peyton Manning.
[00:55:52] Peyton Manning was one of those guys
[00:55:53] that could start slow and get better as the game went on.
[00:55:56] Right.
[00:55:57] He had to come out and get you three or seven
[00:55:59] on that first drive.
[00:56:02] Oh my goodness, Jason Tate with the block.
[00:56:06] So that's the thing with Purdy.
[00:56:07] Purdy is starting to kind of put evidence on tape
[00:56:12] that if you can rattle him early
[00:56:15] he doesn't have a snap out of it moment
[00:56:18] to where he then turns it around like early on.
[00:56:21] So you rattle him in the first quarter.
[00:56:23] It's not a lot of evidence that says that you know what?
[00:56:25] That next possession in the second quarter
[00:56:28] he's just darting it up.
[00:56:29] He does have this final drive of this game
[00:56:32] and maybe that's a building block, but this is one.
[00:56:36] This is one of, at this point, one of six times
[00:56:40] that we've seen it because you got the loss.
[00:56:43] Well, you can't really blame the N.C. Championship game
[00:56:45] on him because you gotta hurt.
[00:56:46] Right.
[00:56:47] Against Philly.
[00:56:49] So this is like the one time out of the five times
[00:56:51] he's really been in trouble
[00:56:53] where he has gotten his team over the hump.
[00:56:57] He ain't gotten them into the end zone.
[00:56:59] Like the Cleveland game that got a field goal
[00:57:00] and temp out of it that was missed,
[00:57:02] they would have won what a stupid five by Jim Brown.
[00:57:06] Yeah, Jake Moody.
[00:57:08] Yeah, so they would have won that game with the field goal
[00:57:10] but he didn't get them in the end zone.
[00:57:11] This time getting to the end zone maybe that,
[00:57:13] maybe that sparks something in him
[00:57:16] you can see like, oh yeah, I'm wired for this.
[00:57:18] I can do this.
[00:57:19] Hey, maybe that sparks some other people on the team.
[00:57:23] I mean,
[00:57:24] I mean I would like to think
[00:57:25] that your teammates believe in you
[00:57:26] but there's nothing like doing it, you know?
[00:57:30] Yeah, they've been talking,
[00:57:31] they've been talking to talk all year.
[00:57:32] They've been talking to talk about McCaffrey's MVP,
[00:57:36] Brock Purdy as a winner
[00:57:38] but they said the same thing about Jimmy Garoppolo.
[00:57:42] Well, everyone was banging on him.
[00:57:46] Yeah, Jimmy G is a turnover source too.
[00:57:51] I like Jimmy G.
[00:57:53] Yeah.
[00:57:54] Dope spokesperson when he's done with football.
[00:57:57] I don't know why he's not better at quarterback.
[00:57:59] I'm glad they why he's not better.
[00:58:01] He could play George Clooney in a movie about his life.
[00:58:04] Or George Clooney,
[00:58:05] oh, you gonna play, he's gonna be George Clooney?
[00:58:07] Yeah.
[00:58:10] So of course that takes us to my hometown.
[00:58:15] You know, hey, CJ Stroud, these things happen.
[00:58:20] Man it was cold on this coast this weekend.
[00:58:22] Yeah, I brought that up.
[00:58:23] Oh, it was 21 degrees.
[00:58:25] It was cold out here, that was in a house.
[00:58:28] That's why I told you that was my concern.
[00:58:29] And, you know, I saw Peyton Manning,
[00:58:33] if it makes you feel any better, CJ Stroud,
[00:58:35] I saw Peyton Manning lose a playoff game 41 to nothing.
[00:58:40] You know, so it happens, you know?
[00:58:43] What basically long story short,
[00:58:45] the better team overwhelmed the not as good team.
[00:58:50] Houston's only touchdown was a punt return.
[00:58:55] Lamar Jackson still didn't necessarily throw the ball the best,
[00:58:59] but when Houston would get them at third down and long,
[00:59:03] he just tied his shoes and said, let's race.
[00:59:06] You know what I'm saying?
[00:59:07] And when you could do that, go go gadget,
[00:59:11] you know, you could win a lot of games.
[00:59:13] And I think his teammates enjoy watching him do that.
[00:59:21] Whereas we talked about Buffalo at Nazism earlier to start the show,
[00:59:24] we're supposed to go like 15 minutes,
[00:59:25] they went on like 30 talking about Buffalo in Kansas City.
[00:59:29] I think that the Buffalo players,
[00:59:31] when Lamar is up there just doing this thing, getting them victories,
[00:59:36] they love it.
[00:59:38] They love seeing it.
[00:59:40] I'm not sure how many targets
[00:59:41] all the Beckham's gotten this year,
[00:59:43] but I guarantee you on those plays where
[00:59:48] Lamar is running and open.
[00:59:51] Oh, that was getting a block in.
[00:59:53] Yeah.
[00:59:54] Well, he's on the sideline,
[00:59:56] talked about how incredible that run was or when he runs a
[00:59:59] when he runs a touchdown in and the running backs now like,
[01:00:03] oh, man, why didn't you give me the ball?
[01:00:05] I think they all believe that he is the guy
[01:00:09] that's going to get them to the promised land.
[01:00:11] Mm hmm.
[01:00:12] And I was I like I like seeing it
[01:00:15] because we'd like to judge Lamar based off the numbers.
[01:00:19] You know, he can go he can go 12 for 19, 130 yards,
[01:00:22] 140 yards passing and seven rushes for 92 yards
[01:00:27] and Baltimore win the game.
[01:00:29] Right. By 20, 20 points.
[01:00:32] And it's like you want to blow up his numbers.
[01:00:34] And if you want to chop in with his numbers,
[01:00:36] but it's like really just the impact is the impact
[01:00:39] of having them out there on the field.
[01:00:42] And I think his teammates rally around it.
[01:00:45] I think the coach rallies around it.
[01:00:47] I don't think there's a bad relationship between any of the groups,
[01:00:51] any of the three fastest between often thief and special teams or coaching.
[01:00:56] And I just think there's a very cohesive group of men
[01:01:01] that are marching towards a common goal.
[01:01:04] And I think they'll do it by any means necessary.
[01:01:06] Yeah, I think when you see somebody like that,
[01:01:10] you just kind of marvel at it.
[01:01:13] You know, like I imagine, you know, it was like this
[01:01:16] playing with Kobe at times, you know, where sometimes you just sit back
[01:01:20] and you're just like, wow.
[01:01:23] Like we really ride this guy to.
[01:01:25] Yeah, like, like I'm a part of history tonight.
[01:01:28] Like when he scored 81, like I'm a part of history tonight.
[01:01:30] Like I system on seven little shots like.
[01:01:35] Yeah, but they party right now, telling your grandkids about it.
[01:01:38] Yeah. And so when I look at the Ravens, you know,
[01:01:42] they don't have many weaknesses.
[01:01:44] I mean, they ran for 229 yards in this game.
[01:01:47] You know, so they didn't need Lamar to go out here and be MVP
[01:01:52] as far as throwing the ball, you know, but I just had a thought.
[01:01:54] And I was just like, how crazy would it be, you know,
[01:01:58] to have Baltimore and San Francisco in the Super Bowl?
[01:02:02] But it's reversed, you know, where San Francisco had Kaepernick
[01:02:06] and Baltimore had Flacco, but now it's reversed with Jackson and Purdy.
[01:02:09] Like that's kind of crazy.
[01:02:11] But I know who Jim Harbaugh is going to be rooting for.
[01:02:16] Hard, hard.
[01:02:19] He's like, I hope they go out the score is 52 to zero.
[01:02:24] But, you know, I don't know.
[01:02:28] Houston.
[01:02:30] With all their faults and everything that happened into this
[01:02:33] that happened in this game, they went into half time tied at 10.
[01:02:38] And sometimes that's good enough.
[01:02:40] As far as even if we don't have a chance to win this game,
[01:02:44] we have a chance to win this game.
[01:02:46] You know, their defense didn't play bad per se.
[01:02:50] Lamar just played better.
[01:02:52] That's all it was.
[01:02:53] They just ran into Lamar on one of those magical days,
[01:02:57] you know, where his legs came to the rescue.
[01:03:01] But what I would like to know.
[01:03:04] And I know we're not doing picks.
[01:03:06] Correct.
[01:03:07] But you got to give Bajon's a chance, right?
[01:03:11] I mean, you want to.
[01:03:17] But there's not a lot of evidence to support that
[01:03:21] like as we dig into the numbers.
[01:03:23] But if you think about Baltimore against the top teams.
[01:03:28] To include Houston, Houston was a hot team.
[01:03:33] Then you think about the San Francisco game,
[01:03:34] you think about the Miami game.
[01:03:37] You think about their collective for the season is like.
[01:03:40] They didn't.
[01:03:41] There wasn't a game where Monday morning,
[01:03:44] we were talking or Tuesday,
[01:03:45] depends if they played on Monday night or not.
[01:03:47] Thinking like, oh, the Ravens have a hole
[01:03:50] that needs to be filled with.
[01:03:53] New player or new coach or new scheme.
[01:03:59] Whereas we talked about that plenty of times with the chiefs.
[01:04:02] They need to figure out a way to get these people involved
[01:04:05] in the passing game.
[01:04:06] Right. Right.
[01:04:07] With Miami was like, they need to figure out a way to
[01:04:10] get to a second read or is to a holding them back.
[01:04:14] Josh Allen was like, is that relationship
[01:04:16] between him and Stephon?
[01:04:17] So every week when loser draw, even with San Francisco
[01:04:21] was like when they had that three game,
[01:04:23] lose streak and then they had that game against Buffalo
[01:04:25] was like, or against Baltimore.
[01:04:28] The conversation was.
[01:04:30] Can they compete with can they compete in games
[01:04:35] if Brock Purdy isn't masterful?
[01:04:37] Like if he makes any mistakes,
[01:04:40] you know, can he make up for later?
[01:04:41] They just keep compounded as he make a mistake every quarter
[01:04:45] that basically takes him out of the game.
[01:04:47] Like I think the game against Minnesota where it was like,
[01:04:49] they only lost by five, but every time they got
[01:04:53] the ball back late with a potential to take
[01:04:57] the lead or move the ball and make something happen.
[01:05:00] You know, nothing happened.
[01:05:01] Right. Same thing in Cincinnati.
[01:05:02] Then of course, you had to concuss
[01:05:04] with Baltimore. We haven't had that question.
[01:05:07] The question we have with Baltimore was a hypothetical.
[01:05:10] Like, can Lamar keep this up?
[01:05:12] Can Lamar win MVP playing like this?
[01:05:15] And it was like, yeah, he's winning.
[01:05:18] So we didn't have a real, like we had a question,
[01:05:21] but the question felt more rhetorical because
[01:05:24] you couldn't pinpoint something that was not happening.
[01:05:27] Odele back when Junior wasn't in on Twitter,
[01:05:30] talking about not getting passes.
[01:05:31] Zay Flowers wasn't throwing fits on the sideline.
[01:05:33] You know, so like every question you had about their offense,
[01:05:37] there was nothing that they were doing as players,
[01:05:39] like guys in that purple.
[01:05:41] The flock, as they call it.
[01:05:43] None of them were acting out in the way
[01:05:46] to where you could think something's up.
[01:05:49] Whereas, you know, we've seen it with other teams.
[01:05:51] We saw it with teams that kept going
[01:05:54] from one quarterback to another quarterback.
[01:05:56] But we saw it with Atlanta.
[01:05:57] It's like obviously, the head of the team
[01:05:59] Atlanta's like obviously the head coach
[01:06:01] and the head quarterback aren't in line.
[01:06:03] They're going to the backup.
[01:06:05] Same thing with like team like Detroit.
[01:06:08] The jets, the jets were constantly
[01:06:10] in battle in these internal term oils
[01:06:13] that would be played out publicly,
[01:06:16] which chip at the, you know, chip after like the.
[01:06:19] There is ever talking about one week
[01:06:21] where like Zach Wilson didn't even want to play.
[01:06:23] That was the rumor that was a leak.
[01:06:25] And then Aaron Rodgers comes out.
[01:06:26] He's upset with the leaks in the building.
[01:06:28] So that confirms or at least creates
[01:06:33] another day of conversation about reasonable doubt.
[01:06:36] That's reasonable doubt to think that, OK, he did say this
[01:06:40] or there's people in the building
[01:06:43] that want him to look a certain way.
[01:06:45] So either way is like if it wasn't true
[01:06:47] and someone leaked it and said it was, it's like, well,
[01:06:52] you're making it like you're putting Zach Wilson
[01:06:54] in a situation where like the jets are just completely
[01:06:56] discombobulated Denver, you know.
[01:06:58] So we have all these teams that just had term oil all year long.
[01:07:02] Coaches on the hot seat will live as Malik Willis,
[01:07:05] Tannehill and Tennessee.
[01:07:07] They end up firing their coach, Mac Jones, Bailey Zappi,
[01:07:10] pulling them in the left.
[01:07:11] We Baltimore hasn't had any of that.
[01:07:15] Even like I said, Kansas City,
[01:07:16] Skymore, there's Tony.
[01:07:21] If I haven't done the math, but I can guarantee you
[01:07:24] they have a total of less than 10 targets
[01:07:27] the last since the last since the Buffalo game,
[01:07:30] which is about six weeks ago.
[01:07:32] If you had to think about like,
[01:07:33] because I watched a lot of Kansas City games,
[01:07:35] I don't remember seeing Skymore getting a lot of targets
[01:07:37] or could there is Tony on the field?
[01:07:40] So that was a conversation that we were having every single week.
[01:07:44] Baltimore is just the conversation is
[01:07:48] you and I having a conversation like,
[01:07:50] do you believe that they can keep doing this?
[01:07:52] And he's like, right,
[01:07:53] I want to have no other reason not to.
[01:07:57] Yeah, I think it's going to be a good game.
[01:08:01] You know, we'll see what happens as far as Houston.
[01:08:06] You know, could you see them?
[01:08:10] Do you think they built enough of a culture this season
[01:08:14] that we can see them in the play?
[01:08:15] I mean, obviously we got to get through free agency and all that.
[01:08:17] But do you think they built the type of culture
[01:08:20] where we could see them in the playoffs again next year?
[01:08:23] Yes, because I think Andy is going to go with Richardson.
[01:08:31] So that's a sense of this next year is going to be his
[01:08:35] rookie year adjacent.
[01:08:37] Mm hmm.
[01:08:39] And I can't even if they keep Gardner, Menchie.
[01:08:41] I don't know if they do.
[01:08:43] I think Gardner Menchie gets another backup job somewhere else.
[01:08:47] Mm hmm.
[01:08:49] So I think you're going to they're going to run it with him.
[01:08:53] Tennessee is going to have a new coach.
[01:08:55] We saw this guy Callahan get hired on one out of Cincinnati staff.
[01:09:00] So if him and Will Lovis can marry.
[01:09:03] Well, what do you do with Tana Hill?
[01:09:04] How will however that pans out?
[01:09:06] So I think you have Derek Henry,
[01:09:08] he's been sending farewell messages for the last four weeks.
[01:09:11] Right.
[01:09:12] I do something with Malik Willis, right?
[01:09:15] I think you just cut him with your third round pick.
[01:09:18] Yeah, I don't think you keep him.
[01:09:19] I don't think he knows.
[01:09:21] I don't know what he does for you.
[01:09:23] If you're trying to if you're trying to develop Will Lovis,
[01:09:26] I don't know what Malik will sell for you as a team.
[01:09:28] It sounds dismissive, but the bigger score.
[01:09:32] You got you got that's what you're going to go with.
[01:09:37] Jacksonville.
[01:09:39] Has the they have the.
[01:09:43] Unique position to be where.
[01:09:46] Players came there over the last couple of years,
[01:09:50] thinking they were going to get over the hump.
[01:09:53] And they might just be a nine and eight, ten and 17
[01:09:57] that thinks are 13 and four.
[01:10:00] So at.
[01:10:02] Five and four after week 10 after the binary
[01:10:06] at the week 10, is it going to be stress in the locker room?
[01:10:11] Whereas I think Houston if Houston rolls into their, you know,
[01:10:14] their first ten weeks and they're five and four, six and three,
[01:10:18] I think they're like, OK, we can make this week.
[01:10:20] We're happy with this.
[01:10:21] We were here before we're not paying a lot.
[01:10:24] They're not paying a lot of guys.
[01:10:25] Your coach seems to believe in the players, the players believe in the coach.
[01:10:29] They have the fact that they won the division.
[01:10:31] Ricky quarterback, Ricky coach.
[01:10:34] I have a feeling that they are going to they have a better shot at
[01:10:38] repeating as the South Champs, simply because, like I said,
[01:10:43] Tennessee starting over Indianapolis essentially starting over by putting
[01:10:46] Richardson back out there.
[01:10:48] We don't know if he's good or not.
[01:10:50] And then Jacksonville.
[01:10:54] Trevor Longus wasn't playing that well.
[01:10:57] The first eight games.
[01:10:59] I think he's I think we did the math here, like nine,
[01:11:01] nine and ten touchdowns in nine games.
[01:11:03] Yeah. Yeah.
[01:11:04] We were talking about that because people were still trying to paint these narratives
[01:11:08] that he was the like next quarterback in the chamber to become a star.
[01:11:14] And I'm like, when?
[01:11:19] There's something there's something there because he's obviously a good quarterback.
[01:11:23] But you know what I mean?
[01:11:24] But where like, but I think the flooding, I think people flooding,
[01:11:28] I think free agents, trades, the team is making moves
[01:11:33] as if the Jaguars are next up.
[01:11:38] So that's the that's the piece is like,
[01:11:42] you're going to start looking at it like, oh, we're bringing in free agents
[01:11:46] for paying linebackers, a hundred million dollars were paying
[01:11:49] why we're sewers, 80 million.
[01:11:52] We're doing all this stuff because we are next up.
[01:11:56] And if he doesn't if he doesn't deliver,
[01:12:01] then all those other moves going to look as if they were poor moves
[01:12:05] because the quarterback isn't getting you your 24 to 27 points again,
[01:12:10] that you need to be an uprash along NFL team.
[01:12:13] I think he will get there.
[01:12:15] I don't know if he'll get to weapons.
[01:12:17] He has plenty of weapons.
[01:12:18] Yeah. I don't I don't know if he'll get to like,
[01:12:21] you know, the Josh Allen level and all that stuff like that.
[01:12:25] But he'll be right there.
[01:12:27] Like he'll be right below potentially.
[01:12:28] I don't I don't play like Brock Purdy.
[01:12:31] We will be praising him because there's another one pick.
[01:12:34] This is true.
[01:12:35] If he had Brock Purdy numbers, it would be like, oh,
[01:12:39] look what this guy did.
[01:12:41] He'll bang it on Brock Purdy.
[01:12:43] Yeah. And they're like, oh, well, he has better.
[01:12:46] He has better, you know, Avengers or whatever Nick Ray says.
[01:12:50] Well, but that's the thing about it, though,
[01:12:52] like for all the stuff that, you know, they say about Brock
[01:12:55] Purdy in that way, then why doesn't that apply to Trevor Lawrence?
[01:13:00] Why does that not apply to Justin Herbert?
[01:13:03] Because they got weapons.
[01:13:04] They're sexy like pause.
[01:13:07] They they fit the mold.
[01:13:10] They are the quintessential six four, six five
[01:13:15] humble, handsome, big arm.
[01:13:20] A lot of acclaim.
[01:13:21] Herbert with the arm out in LA.
[01:13:24] Very humble basketball player.
[01:13:26] Just I mean, excuse me, I'm watching basketball.
[01:13:28] You're a very humble football player.
[01:13:30] And then Trevor Lawrence, you never complain.
[01:13:32] You never see him like soaking on a sideline.
[01:13:35] You never see him like yelling at his teammates.
[01:13:37] I think they just like this all American look.
[01:13:44] That traditional sunshine.
[01:13:47] Yeah. And and that's and that's why like that's why they they have
[01:13:52] the I think that's why they get the I want to say a claim.
[01:13:57] But this this is people are inspired by the concept of their success.
[01:14:03] Right. Because they fit the mold.
[01:14:06] They just fit like it's like, I want I want this guy to succeed
[01:14:11] because he looks like someone Baker Mayfield doesn't fit that mold.
[01:14:15] So when he went number one overall, they're like, so you took a five
[01:14:18] eleven guy number one overall with all these other guys available.
[01:14:22] Right. Didn't fit the mold.
[01:14:23] So it was like, we don't like the way that looks.
[01:14:27] Alex Smith went number one overall.
[01:14:29] He probably wasn't better than Aaron Rodgers.
[01:14:31] But he fit he, you know, he fit the mold.
[01:14:33] He was clean cut, handsome, tall, successful in college.
[01:14:37] It's OK. We'll take it.
[01:14:39] Sam Bradford is the same way.
[01:14:40] It was like Sam Bradford was awful at Oklahoma.
[01:14:42] Always hurt, constantly hurt getting tackled by college players.
[01:14:47] You can put him in leave of Ray Lewis and think he's going
[01:14:49] to just magically play 16 games.
[01:14:51] Very magically tough now.
[01:14:53] Yeah, he dollars for touchdown for his career.
[01:14:57] Passing touchdown. He got me and I was part of that's crazy.
[01:15:01] You know, Sam, but yeah, Joe, we will be back on Thursday.
[01:15:06] You know, saying, you know what that means?
[01:15:08] Picks, if I remember correctly, we won this weekend.
[01:15:12] Absolutely. Buffalo, the only team that let us down.
[01:15:16] You know, it is what it is, though.
[01:15:18] You know, we can say three and one, but we picked the three home teams.
[01:15:21] So I was like, I really don't get myself any credit for it.
[01:15:24] Yeah. But if I would have gone out and pick Kansas City.
[01:15:28] But like I said, I just was sticking to my pick.
[01:15:31] Yeah, I didn't think they were going to win.
[01:15:33] So yeah, you know, I mean, hopefully your grandma happy, you know what I'm saying?
[01:15:37] But you know, Sam, he is.
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