BROKEN DREAMS

[00:00:06] Yes, you are now listening to the sounds of Sports Reports As Ordered.

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[00:00:17] Born in Texas, raised in VA, representing New Jerus.

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[00:00:30] He is Mr. Logical.

[00:00:34] And he does not, does not allow you to bring feelings to fat fights.

[00:00:40] Don't do it.

[00:00:42] And of course, it is I, your unorthodox statistician.

[00:00:46] Going left so much, you thought I was southpaw.

[00:00:48] And what you see on your screen is correct.

[00:00:51] Jim Jones is better than Cam'ron.

[00:00:53] I came to this conclusion about two years ago.

[00:00:56] Even though I still love Flea, I'm just saying.

[00:01:00] I'm too proud.

[00:01:02] We're going to get this started with getting it off my chest.

[00:01:04] We're going to talk about the college football playoff bracket.

[00:01:07] We're going to talk about contenders or pretenders in the NFL.

[00:01:11] But Mr. Logical is going to start us off right about now.

[00:01:18] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:01:19] Another week of sports.

[00:01:21] Another week of craziness.

[00:01:23] Another week of people, you know, just kind of act in a certain kind of way.

[00:01:27] But the main thing I want to focus on, I want to focus on family.

[00:01:32] I've had, you know, everyone has ups and downs in their life.

[00:01:35] But I have like, you know, had deaths in my family.

[00:01:37] My sister and my mother both passed away from lupus.

[00:01:41] And my sister, my mother passed away August 27th, 94.

[00:01:45] My sister passed away August 30th, 2000.

[00:01:49] That was a couple weeks before my birthday.

[00:01:52] And then like, you know, things kind of like lumped together.

[00:01:55] My middle son, his birthday is the same day to my mother.

[00:01:58] So it's like a lot of stuff kind of lumps together.

[00:02:00] It's also the same for me in December.

[00:02:04] My cousin, Kevin, call him Fever Man.

[00:02:07] Kevin Lee Mason, KLM.

[00:02:10] He was a couple years older than me.

[00:02:12] And I used to copy him to the T.

[00:02:17] Anyone in my family would tell you, like, if you saw Kevin, you saw Ralph.

[00:02:22] You saw Ralph, you saw Kevin.

[00:02:23] If Kevin was wearing something, Ralph had the same thing on in a different color.

[00:02:27] Or if we were the same size, Ralph was going to wear it after Kevin had it.

[00:02:32] Oh, you need a haircut?

[00:02:33] Kevin going to cut my hair.

[00:02:35] Oh, Kevin talking to this girl?

[00:02:37] I'm going to talk to her.

[00:02:38] I'm going to figure out what did he say to her?

[00:02:40] And I'm either trying to get at her or her little cousin or her little sister.

[00:02:44] I'm trying to figure out what he's doing.

[00:02:46] I'd watch him from afar.

[00:02:47] I'd watch him up close.

[00:02:49] His mannerisms.

[00:02:50] Literally, it was so on point that my man, too, too stomached.

[00:02:55] He said, you sat down at a basketball game.

[00:02:58] I flipped my shirt up so I wouldn't sit on it and wrinkle it.

[00:03:00] He looked and said, man, you even flip your shirt up like him.

[00:03:03] So, like, I literally idolized Kevin, like, my whole life.

[00:03:06] So, you know, he passed away December 6, 2014.

[00:03:12] My daughter was born December 8, 2018.

[00:03:17] So she celebrated her birthday.

[00:03:19] She had a dope birthday weekend.

[00:03:20] I got the FaceTime.

[00:03:21] She lived out of state.

[00:03:22] My sister would have been 48.

[00:03:25] You know, she was still alive yesterday.

[00:03:28] And then today is my aunt's birthday, which is ironic.

[00:03:32] My daughter looks a lot like my aunt because my aunt's, like, light skinned.

[00:03:36] My daughter's light skinned.

[00:03:37] So, like, my daughter looks a lot like my aunt.

[00:03:40] So them having birthdays to the part is great.

[00:03:43] I called her tonight.

[00:03:43] I told her about the show.

[00:03:45] Hopefully she's watching live.

[00:03:46] If not, we'll clip it and send it to her.

[00:03:48] But I, Alice, wish you happy birthday.

[00:03:51] You know, so, like, December 7th.

[00:03:53] Yeah.

[00:03:53] You know, so, like, my cousin Kevin, his birthday is, you know, December 22nd.

[00:03:57] And my aunt's son, Darryl Bub in the club, we call him.

[00:04:02] He answered the phone.

[00:04:02] His birthday's the end of this month.

[00:04:04] I always ask when I'm coming home.

[00:04:05] So just want to make sure everybody, you know, you connect with family.

[00:04:08] I know we're going to have a lot of conversations over sports.

[00:04:10] And there's going to be arguments and who should be traded here and who's washed.

[00:04:15] Just focus on the fact that, you know, everybody's not going to be here forever.

[00:04:19] So enjoy the family while you have them here.

[00:04:21] Like, you look around my house right now, I have, I got four kids, grandkid.

[00:04:27] I got a dog.

[00:04:29] My son's girlfriends are here all the time.

[00:04:31] It's just, it's chaos.

[00:04:33] And it's the beautiful chaos out of the life that you should enjoy.

[00:04:36] I enjoy it immensely, even though I do yell at them constantly about not taking it to trash.

[00:04:41] But I'd rather them be here creating trash in my house and not be here at all.

[00:04:45] So shout out to the family.

[00:04:47] Shout out to mine for a birthday.

[00:04:49] But yeah, but now let's get some really off my chest.

[00:04:52] How can you hear that and not like, review, subscribe, share and rate?

[00:04:57] How could you not do all the free things, which are also all the good things?

[00:05:04] Mr. Logical.

[00:05:05] I mean, this is a show about family.

[00:05:07] It's about honesty.

[00:05:08] It's about family.

[00:05:09] We don't just yell and just, you know, we don't run up here with all feelings.

[00:05:13] Like, you know, I feel a great deal of love for my family.

[00:05:16] You know, like I said, my son plays sports.

[00:05:18] If he played badly in the game, I tell him he rarely does.

[00:05:22] My oldest son, when he played badly in the game, I tell him rarely happens.

[00:05:26] I have superstars.

[00:05:28] You're welcome, Northern Burlington.

[00:05:32] But when I'm talking about the family I pick, I'm talking about the Atlanta Falcons family that I, you know, at 10 to age, 9, 10 years old, saw Deion Sanders coming out the smoke high step in number 21.

[00:05:44] I was like, silver pants, black jersey, black helmet.

[00:05:47] I'm like, who is this dude?

[00:05:48] I'm following this team.

[00:05:50] So, for 30 plus years, I've been riding with the Falcons.

[00:05:54] Super Bowl disappointments with the safety, trying to get a hook of the night before the game.

[00:05:59] Then they get mollywhopped by John Elway.

[00:06:03] Slightly overrated quarterback.

[00:06:04] It is what it is.

[00:06:07] Yeah.

[00:06:08] Don't get me started.

[00:06:09] Don't get me started.

[00:06:10] But as we travel through this season, I am never going to be a person that tells you I hate being right because I love it.

[00:06:20] I'm not going to lie.

[00:06:21] Anybody who tries to give me advice, they know I love being right.

[00:06:28] Sadly, I was spot on with Atlanta from the time of the draft, my preseason assessment, and pretty much all season long.

[00:06:39] The last four years, they've had first round picks.

[00:06:45] They've taken luxury picks versus logical picks.

[00:06:53] They took pennies as a future expectation of a luxury.

[00:07:00] Like, hey, it's going to be a luxury to have a quality backup quarterback in the event that our current quarterback goes down,

[00:07:07] especially when coming off injury.

[00:07:08] Yeah, that sounds good for another team, not the one you're trying to build.

[00:07:16] Last year, they took B. John Robinson.

[00:07:20] Didn't need him.

[00:07:21] You had Cordell Patterson and Tyler G.

[00:07:25] Both go over 1,000 yards.

[00:07:27] That was a third one, too.

[00:07:29] Yeah.

[00:07:29] And then they took, the year before that, they took Drake London.

[00:07:33] When they were in the top 10 and they needed a defensive front, defensive presence.

[00:07:39] The year before that, they took Cal Pitts.

[00:07:41] You know, I'll give you Cal Pitts was, he looked like an all-world potential pick in that four.

[00:07:48] I know it was high for a tight end, but I think that made a little bit of sense.

[00:07:53] But they never game plan to get him the ball.

[00:07:57] I've watched so many games in his four seasons that he's been in Atlanta.

[00:08:01] And I don't recall, and I could be wrong, but I doubt it, a single first quarter where they attempted to throw him the ball three to four times in quick situations.

[00:08:13] Especially when they recognized that we didn't have another wide receiver.

[00:08:16] So they were putting corners on him.

[00:08:18] Like, let's get him in motion.

[00:08:20] Maybe we can get a safety or linebacker matchup with him.

[00:08:22] Get him the ball early.

[00:08:23] It doesn't happen.

[00:08:25] Even this last week, he caught his first pass.

[00:08:29] Seven minutes left in the fourth quarter.

[00:08:33] So what I'm saying in Atlanta is that if I can sit here in my house in Jersey and pick out where your flaws are.

[00:08:40] Caleb Huntley.

[00:08:43] That's what I was thinking about.

[00:08:45] Oh, yeah.

[00:08:46] So if I can find your flaws from here, Brian Flores, probably one of the best defensive coordinators this year, is going to be able to figure it out.

[00:08:57] And Kevin O'Connell, one of the best offensive minds in the last few years, he's going to be able to figure it out.

[00:09:03] There was a play at the goal line where I think Sam Darnold had five and a half seconds to throw the ball inside the 10-yard line.

[00:09:12] You don't need that many defenders because you have the back line.

[00:09:15] You can get a little risky there, but you get no pressure in the middle because you draft the defensive end and try to make them defensive tackle right before the All-American defensive tackle goes.

[00:09:28] Johnny Newton.

[00:09:30] Johnny Newton.

[00:09:31] Then you go, you don't pick a proper lane.

[00:09:36] Like the last four years, you should have had either the best offensive player on the board or the best offensive lineman.

[00:09:43] At eight, you've had three years in a row, eight and eight, and then four.

[00:09:52] so none of the people you picked in those spots are contributing to their position that they were

[00:09:59] drafted at bjohn robson is a good player but he's just good but none of the pieces around him

[00:10:06] make it easy for him to get in space because you don't have you have a six foot wide six

[00:10:13] foot five wide receiver you drafted in the first round top 10 overall that can't be outside coverage

[00:10:18] you can't put him at x or y you got to put him at the z you got to put him in a slot you got to match

[00:10:22] him up you're moving him around but you put cal pits on the outside hoping he could beat the corner

[00:10:27] that your y receiving draft can't be and i'm sitting here like who's calling this stuff who's not seeing

[00:10:34] this stuff and it's like i'm i'm sick of the bs i get it i don't like calling for people's jobs

[00:10:42] but either you need to get a guru in there that could do some some mentorship or you got to replace

[00:10:47] these people and i get right he more has just got his deal listen arthur blank you own home depot

[00:10:54] raise the price of lumber two to three dollars to get your extra money to pay off his contract and

[00:11:00] send him out send a gm with him send a president player personnel with him and go find an organization

[00:11:07] and some people that can really put together a team with an actual plan there's no use of having

[00:11:13] safeties in the back end and defensive is on the outside if the quarterback can just slide to the

[00:11:19] other side step up and find somebody underneath you got two great safety yeah no one's going deep

[00:11:25] and when they go deep the corners falling down it happens every week and now you got a quarterback

[00:11:33] four straight losses he has eight interceptions and zero touchdowns meanwhile sam darnel who was a

[00:11:40] castaway yes he's been up and down with every team he's played for he threw five on sunday like come

[00:11:50] on like at some point it has to be recognized no touchdown since week nine leads the league in

[00:11:55] interceptions now with 15 multiple fumbles just he looks out of place he looks like he's in his head

[00:12:02] i like him as a i like him as a player but like as far as this organization you got to go ahead and

[00:12:09] well let's stay there let's stay there is it pennix time or should we just wait to next season give him

[00:12:17] a full off season and then he starts next season or just let it play out kirk starts another year

[00:12:23] where you where you at on that i'm figuring out how we get the daniel jones situation where

[00:12:29] you russell wilson daniel jones and just cut it and cut your losses oh just all together all together

[00:12:37] this this it's rare i'm 43 if you took my best physical prime 23 to 29 i'm never gonna get back to that

[00:12:53] level of stamina no matter how hard i try from all the partying i would do drink all night hang out all

[00:13:01] of day doing this running here running there i'm not gonna get back to that no matter what

[00:13:06] and if i decide you know what this year i'm gonna try and i started in january and i'm trying i'm trying

[00:13:12] to get back to that and it's like hey man this is you taking naps like this with your arms crossed

[00:13:19] at 10 30 it's like you're not gonna get back like it's recognized like you're not gonna get back

[00:13:23] to that prime you're just too old time waits for no man so uh it comes for everybody and it's it's

[00:13:32] time like his time is up he's not going to get better so so speaking of raheem morris you know

[00:13:38] you mentioned of course this is year one year one so i don't want to overreact um what kind of greed

[00:13:46] you've given him d a d okay it's but that's the thing it's not it's not year one for him as a coach

[00:13:54] right right right it's what you expect like i expected this the offensive coordinator

[00:14:04] i don't think is creative at all i don't think the players that they brought in even it's like i get

[00:14:12] if you had a team but you're decimated by injury your weapons are injured and you're down to

[00:14:18] or you don't start the year with your back you know like for instance cow shanahan yeah i was

[00:14:23] gonna say didn't have didn't have uh mcafree was losing guys in and out i use out rock party's a

[00:14:32] decent quarterback but he found he knows ways to get guys open he knows ways to impact the defense

[00:14:41] with his play calling atlanta's in the same boat that they were in arthur smith sometimes coaches

[00:14:47] just think plays work because schematically it's supposed to be x coverage like oh we're in man to

[00:14:55] man they're gonna go zero coverage this place should work but it's like okay cool where are your

[00:15:00] playmakers here like oh i'm going five wide i got bijon out you know out wide so kurt has no

[00:15:07] protection okay cool yeah it'll look dope if the five offensive linemen can hold up with the six

[00:15:13] guys that they're gonna bring but we know that's not the case because the right tackle is terrible

[00:15:18] the left guard is awful and the left tackle is only out there because the last name is matthews

[00:15:25] so yeah it's like oh they're gonna go cover zero we're gonna okay that's cool he can't get the ball

[00:15:30] out well you know speaking along the same kind of lines that you're talking about where does gang

[00:15:39] green go from here where does aaron rogers go from here i think i need to go on nd.com make up a job

[00:15:47] post and call uh every every fan's angry voice you can hire me to sit in your meeting where you talk

[00:15:55] about what you can do with these players you're billionaires you're billionaire owners there's no

[00:16:01] need for you to keep paying these millionaires to be mediocre you're not saving yourself any money

[00:16:06] your capital gains everywhere you're not paying any taxes you're going to be fine cut your losses

[00:16:12] get rid of the staff that robin solid brought in i wouldn't even interview anybody that's currently

[00:16:18] on the staff you already fired the gm get rid of the quarterback and start over hire a gm have him

[00:16:27] get you a coach and then get the best available player you can get going forward next year you know

[00:16:34] how much money aaron rogers made this year if i had to guess somewhere 47 38 38 38 you know what i mean

[00:16:49] and look he's had moments you know where it looks okay but back to your point earlier

[00:16:56] he ain't 25 no more you know this isn't 2019 or 2020 anymore matter of fact you know you looking at

[00:17:03] him this year 2966 yards not bad you know 20 touchdowns eight interceptions not so bad kirk cousins

[00:17:12] would take that you know you would take that for kirk cousins right now you know but going back to

[00:17:17] 2022 before he got hurt last year he had 12 picks and between that season and this season those are

[00:17:27] the mixed most picks that he's thrown since 2010 in a season you know so slippery slope here because

[00:17:36] great player all time maybe even but not now so you so you brought it you brought in garrett wilson

[00:17:47] you know offensive player or offensive rookie of the year a couple years ago you brought in breese hall

[00:17:52] you know love breese hall he had the injury you know but love breese hall you brought in braylon allen

[00:17:59] you know so you got a nice one-two punch that should last you the next six to seven years potentially

[00:18:07] why waste that time with this old ass fart that walks around moping and grumpy whining and bitching

[00:18:16] all the time you know what i mean when you got these young players who are supposed to be

[00:18:21] learning how to win now he's a super bowl champion but that super bowl was many many moons ago

[00:18:28] yeah my son my son is a sophomore in high school and he was barely standing up you know i had an

[00:18:35] after when he won when he won that super bowl you know what i mean so that tells you right there where we

[00:18:41] are you know um this is i didn't i didn't own a laptop when he won that super bowl this is the

[00:18:47] lowest completion percentage that he's had since that 2020 mvp year so everything is trending downward

[00:18:53] and you went out and got his favorite toy devontae adams you brought him in a couple of weeks ago

[00:19:00] no ain't no pause on that when you saw that video they put out there ain't no pause

[00:19:06] this ain't a dipset moment you know and and and you know but you went out and got his favorite toy

[00:19:12] and what has it done you fired robert sala who you had talked about was gonna get fired yeah they

[00:19:20] fired him they beat the texans and it was like whoa are we on to something here no you ain't on to

[00:19:25] something because you still ain't shit three and ten three eliminated and this is and this is something

[00:19:32] else that it's like there's not it's not as if these teams that are in these positions are alone

[00:19:41] the jets can look at multiple situations you can look at peyton manning's last year in denver

[00:19:48] they've been some for brock osweiler peyton manning's last year's nine ass water nine touchdowns 17

[00:19:55] picks yeah they won a super bowl that's because von miller was ripping the ball out of cam news hand

[00:19:59] like he was uh you know handing the ball off to him speaking of zach wilson real quick speaking of

[00:20:05] zach wilson isaac what you doing bro then you know that man transferred already i would go well it's

[00:20:13] probably gonna be a whole coach the whole new regime well no he said he coming back next year

[00:20:20] winningham's back next year yeah he's back next year cam rising isn't coming back so kyle's like

[00:20:24] listen i'm gonna get one of these transfers to try to really win the big 12 but but yeah zach

[00:20:29] had a better stat line last year zach wilson had them on well i don't say he had them with zach

[00:20:35] wilson the team was on the doorstep of the playoffs yeah let's let's calm down they were the team was

[00:20:45] the team was what the team was because sometimes i give you example the real quick i remember i was in

[00:20:55] germany and this guy was his he was active duty but his wife made a lot of my things she was like a

[00:21:02] lawyer so they had the big escalate before anybody else really seen one and they brought it to germany

[00:21:09] so everybody walked out the club and it was like eight dudes from spain island we're we're at ramside's

[00:21:15] club it was like eight people posted up outside in front of this escalate so now you're all getting

[00:21:21] this attention you know from all the girls coming out because they think maybe this is your escalate

[00:21:28] but what it goes down to is like jack wilson had nothing to do with them being he was the reason

[00:21:33] they weren't actually in the playoffs because he couldn't make throws he just was a dude standing

[00:21:37] next to the escalate because the escalate was the defense well that's what i said not because of him

[00:21:43] like but but but all i know is what i do know is when aaron rogers got hurt last year remember he got

[00:21:50] hurt was it three plays into the season i think he got four plays they beat the buffalo bills in that

[00:21:55] game yeah and josh allen was throwing the ball to the jets i get it they had listen brooklogs right

[00:22:03] twice today the jets have been poorly run and poorly managed from the time that they went after aaron rogers

[00:22:12] ever since kitty o'brien when they brought in brett farve it's like why are you bringing in a guy who

[00:22:18] clearly wanted to go to another team he wanted to go to minnesota so he can stick at the green bay

[00:22:22] twice they they go after the wrong things they tried to make this this this new york fan base

[00:22:30] the new york fan base wants you to be a winner not a gambler so what kind of get a win so what

[00:22:37] kind of head coach can they get they're going to get knowing the jets they'll hire eber fluce

[00:22:47] they're gonna get a retread they're gonna get a guy that's been a coach before hey i heard rex ryan

[00:22:53] throw his name out there he said he won a coach again he keep them them chicklet teeth

[00:23:00] because he'll need to be on the sideline either yeah you don't want him near the cheerleader's feet

[00:23:04] either so i think they'll get a retread guy but they'll get the wrong one

[00:23:13] uh they'll like like i said i'm hanging out right mike vrabel i'm hanging out with a vrabel for any team

[00:23:20] that needs stability no no no we're holding out mike vrabel's going to ohio state top stop that

[00:23:28] that seems less likely i would i would think that they would make a move like that like get a stable

[00:23:36] coach especially a guy that was like i think mike vrabel was let go i want to say unfairly but

[00:23:44] prematurely i think because they put put players around him that he didn't want i don't think he

[00:23:50] wanted malik willis i think it was time i think they had got to a point where you know you were

[00:23:55] making the playoffs you couldn't get past a certain point you know now granted it was because you

[00:24:02] decided it was because you decided to stick with the former wide receiver at quarterback but you know

[00:24:08] once they started losing a little bit tailing off it was like hey we're in a new era now and that's

[00:24:15] where nfl teams mess up because you have these coaches everybody's not mike tomlin there's only one

[00:24:20] of those nfl i i'm not sure who it is i don't know if it's the owners calm down mike it's the gms

[00:24:27] or who it is but there's too many feelings in the at the boardroom table and in these meeting rooms

[00:24:37] to where they are ignoring logic and we're seeing it now with the the mic'd up conversation that we're

[00:24:44] having the players kind of coming out and saying what they're saying a lot about players we talked

[00:24:49] about the joe shane uh clip with you know john mara the the president ceo of the giants who flat out

[00:24:57] told him if he goes to philly i'm gonna have trouble sleeping at night and then he still didn't take that

[00:25:02] information like you know what let me engage just a little more like nope we're gonna let you go like

[00:25:08] based off of what your owner just said i didn't want it to happen you sat back your son told you he

[00:25:14] wanted a different quarterback and to keep saquon so like so everyone around you was saying this but i

[00:25:20] think your ego is making you do other things and i believe that ego is the problem because rick got

[00:25:26] fired like he got fired and it felt like he i'm gonna let logical respond to you

[00:25:36] hold on not this one not this one not this one not this one i got an interchanger for you

[00:25:42] hold on he said he made a statement to the reporters and mike stole my point at the end of the game

[00:25:50] that pretty much let me know that there was conversations that he had with management ahead

[00:25:57] of the final game that he might not be here and he says something along the lines if i'm here tuesday

[00:26:02] i'll talk to the players or something along those lines like he knew something was up and it was like

[00:26:08] based off of what you guys gave him you drafted two guys he did not want it was clear he didn't want

[00:26:15] because it was yanking him out of preseason games like you're not even doing the shit that i want

[00:26:19] you to do in preseason games right and i think rabel's a damn good coach i mean they had derrick

[00:26:24] henry and not a whole lot of anything else and he made stew out of shit you know basically but here you go

[00:26:32] mr logical

[00:26:42] what

[00:26:45] like you gotta let your biases go man i'm looking no but mike did say something that i do agree that i was

[00:26:51] about to say before he said it but he's not agree with this no i was going to say it would be

[00:26:56] i was going to say it would be so new york jet if they were to hire that would be so new york jet hold

[00:27:07] on now now you're going to sit here and say mike tomlin is mediocrity no he doesn't like kellen more

[00:27:13] he that he's he he's then i need you to preface this by saying i don't like kellen more

[00:27:21] you know saying like yeah he doesn't like kellen more magic what are we talking about here this isn't

[00:27:26] this isn't a fourth grade dance recital you need a good coach that can be stable look at tennessee

[00:27:32] now without him watch mike brable win a national title at ohio state watch mike brable beat michigan

[00:27:38] all i'm saying is that teams are out here piecing these these these teams together in a way you

[00:27:46] wouldn't put any other faction together you wouldn't put a friendship group together this way like you

[00:27:52] would not show up to a base i'm like you know what i need four friends to hang out with i need the

[00:27:58] 40 year old master sergeant i need the brand new airman fresh from tech school i need the guy that's

[00:28:05] always angry likes to fight and me now we will go out and and hit the streets like that group doesn't

[00:28:11] make any sense so bringing in an old quarterback a coach that was already on the hot seat a gm that's

[00:28:19] he's made a few good picks and then an owner that likes to just oversee everything and then takes the

[00:28:25] power away you won't make any like that won't work well you got to remember some of these organizations

[00:28:33] are just known for not making moves you know what i mean they gave up aj brown in the middle of all

[00:28:41] that who wanted to stay in tennessee who wanted to stay you like the one person that wanted to

[00:28:46] and they drafted a guy that they thought could replace him because he was the same size

[00:28:52] all right that was that was an organizational move that's not a smart move but i think he still was a

[00:28:57] good coach i think he's better than i would take mike ray was a uh retread coach over one of these new

[00:29:04] potential hot shot offensive coordinators because you gotta have the weapon at quarterback if you're

[00:29:11] gonna bring in a first-time head coach who's only been an offensive coordinator you gotta you gotta have

[00:29:17] the playmaker with you gotta match the playmaker with the coordinator well now you're gonna make

[00:29:23] him head coach so if you're in a position to draft chador or cam war or if you think jaylen milro is a

[00:29:29] guy if you think uh one of these guys coming out of college i've been hearing people say jaylen milro

[00:29:34] might stay in transfer but we'll get to college later i just want to say that real quick but if you if you

[00:29:39] have a uh like if you're in a position where we're looking like the giants vegas and who's gonna who'd be

[00:29:46] number one like i think jacksonville well right now right now the raiders are number one i believe

[00:29:51] yeah but jackson has a quarterback weekend so if you're kellen moore and jacksonville job comes

[00:29:58] available at least they have a long-term at least viewed as a generational quarterback in place under

[00:30:06] contract you're not working with a guy that could be leaving like tua in miami with mike mcdaniel

[00:30:13] so you spent the first two years under under mike mcdaniel wonder if they were gonna keep to him

[00:30:18] you know i mean so it's like but it worked out because they went out and got speed they went out

[00:30:22] and got the weapons they needed to make mike mcdaniel's offense work with to it i don't know if the jets are

[00:30:28] gonna do that because don vante andrew's not coming back we're not aaron all right she's gonna sign up to

[00:30:34] coach aaron so uh from my friends on nfl.com i have here the playoff picture as of today so mr logical

[00:30:43] starting with the afc right now the kansas city chiefs would get the bye then you would have buffalo as you

[00:30:52] can see against the broncos here at number seven the steelers against the chargers the texans against

[00:30:57] the ravens on the bubble you got the colts two games behind the broncos and they go to mile high

[00:31:03] this weekend and you got the dolphins behind the colts colts with the tiebreaker because they beat them

[00:31:08] when uh two of us hurt so mr logical the bubbles is relevant i think we got our seven afc teams i think

[00:31:15] position might change all right so six and seven but that's about it so so looking at that list who are

[00:31:21] my contenders and who are my pretenders contenders obviously you got to go with the chiefs because

[00:31:29] they're the chiefs they seem to find a way to win uh steelers your contenders because i think

[00:31:36] the way they're playing the way that the steelers play granted the 44 38 shootout with cincinnati was

[00:31:45] uncommon but them putting up 44 points when they had to that worked uh so i got

[00:31:53] chiefs bill steelers one two and three those are your contenders four through whomever all pretenders

[00:32:02] all right that includes the texans everybody's darling they just have the worst interior offensive

[00:32:07] line play in amongst the playoff teams well the texans got it coming up i mean you know what i mean they

[00:32:14] got the dolphins this week you know they go to arrowhead they got baltimore on christmas and beyonce

[00:32:23] they can't save them you know and as i look at this the chiefs obviously have to be a contender just

[00:32:30] based off of experience if nothing else they are the reigning defending champions two times

[00:32:34] over going for history so if anybody has motivation it's the chiefs now granted i don't think that this

[00:32:42] luck or whatever you want to call it these late game heroics and magic you know no pun intended there

[00:32:48] but with the magic you know i think that it can't last you know because we know that in sports as

[00:32:56] quickly as these things happen for you it'll quickly turn against you as well now the good news is since

[00:33:03] buffalo lost to the rams the other day that gives the chiefs an extra foot because buffalo beat them

[00:33:09] head to head you know so the chiefs are in position to get that number one seed they also play the steelers

[00:33:16] here in a few weeks who i do not think is a contender i'm going to label the steelers

[00:33:21] pretenders you know and it's not because you know of any picks that i made before the season or

[00:33:27] anything like that it's because it kills me with this ref talk it's because the steelers

[00:33:36] i don't know if i can trust them they're the type of team that has to build leads like i don't know if

[00:33:48] in a playoff but that's the way they play no i know i know but but that's what i'm saying but it's

[00:33:53] too but there's too much variance like this week you might win 13 to 10 next week you might need to

[00:33:59] score 19 and can't do it yeah but how do the charges do it like consistently what can you you

[00:34:05] can get to the charges in a second i mean like so it's like that's the thing i think i think what mike

[00:34:10] tomlin and the steelers one thing you could bank on is solidarity i think they have great leadership

[00:34:16] on the on the sideline and on the field even with george pickens crash outs by the time he gets to

[00:34:25] the the post game press conference it seems like someone's let him vent that out before they put a mic

[00:34:32] in his face like we're gonna talk about the nfc and i'll bring up that point well i'm excited for

[00:34:38] uh pittsburgh going to philly this weekend um i do think that buffalo is a contender because at any

[00:34:44] given time they can have the best player on the field you know um i know i know josh allen is not

[00:34:51] better mvp i know he is not better than patrick mahomes wait hold on let's real quick let's let's

[00:34:57] let's let's let's let's stress that real quick there's not much evidence to show that he isn't

[00:35:04] i mean it's like it's not as if it's this it's this gap where mahomes is here and no one else is close

[00:35:11] josh allen's accounted for more touchdowns since they both been league period like it's accounted

[00:35:17] for more touchdowns yeah he has some struggles but when it comes down to it there's not there's not

[00:35:25] that big of a gap mahomes has real just tom brady-esque joe montana-esque pressure magic

[00:35:36] i don't think josh has been in as many situations but just mahomes mahomes just deals like even the

[00:35:44] game this is the final drive against uh the chargers the scramble down the sideline where he actually

[00:35:51] took contact he didn't tiptoe he took contact got hit didn't get a penalty and then making that guy miss

[00:35:57] uh and then completing that pass to kelsey he has that and that's the thing that i think separates them but as

[00:36:04] far as like just being a player i don't think there's a throw that mahomes can make or play or type

[00:36:11] of play that mahomes can make that uh josh allen can't well well you know and to mike's point you

[00:36:18] know it does help having andy reed but i think that josh allen gets infected with russell westbrook brain

[00:36:25] sometimes you know like especially we talked about it a couple years ago where third and one you know

[00:36:31] what i mean you can do it with your legs you can hand it off he's going to throw it 40 yards deep

[00:36:36] bomb to secure yeah you know what i mean that's what he does so but buffalo is a contender because

[00:36:42] they if nothing else have the motivation from the standpoint of the chiefs have been the ones

[00:36:47] to pretty much in their season like they might have a super bowl right now if the chiefs were in another

[00:36:53] conference or they didn't have to play the chiefs in the playoffs so you know josh allen is having an

[00:36:59] mvp type season but as they say i gotta see you do it when it counts you know um the texans you know

[00:37:08] i was big on the texans coming into the season now i'm not because as you say as the evidence changes so

[00:37:14] does my opinion you know the texans are just not i don't want to say they're not a good team but

[00:37:22] they're fortunate to be in the division that they're in you know i'll put it like that this

[00:37:27] year injuries hurt them when you watch the game when they had when they had like you know like the

[00:37:33] phrase their avengers when they had nico collins stefan diggs tank though he was dealing see this

[00:37:40] trial was dealing who's this q you talking about who is he oh cute i can't who's cute i know i keep

[00:37:47] hearing his name but i don't i can't i can't place it yeah like i said i don't think i don't think the

[00:37:52] texans are a bad team it's just that cj stride's been sacked like 19 times it's just comparison

[00:37:59] between him and bright shun because that was comparison last year so since bright shun's come

[00:38:04] back from being benched uh like i think cj stride's been sacked like 19 times and bryce young's been like

[00:38:11] six or seven times but like i said he probably has one of the lower rated probably like 28 to 29 rated

[00:38:18] interior line center guard like guard center guard that's what that's where the games are won and

[00:38:25] that's the problem you got you got the i mean like i said they play miami this weekend but then you go

[00:38:31] arrowhead and ravens back to back so yeah luckily the colts are the second place team in that division

[00:38:37] the colts ain't shit so therefore no disrespect to pop no disrespect to pops but it just is what it is

[00:38:43] the ravens i don't know the contender i'm gonna call them a contender i'm gonna call them a contender

[00:38:52] you got to call them contender because the the dynamic players that they have on both sides of

[00:38:58] the ball the problem is i don't know who the voice is i don't know who we talked about kansas city

[00:39:05] mike likes to give andy reed a lot of credit which you can't deny but andy reed talks to mahomes

[00:39:12] talks to naggy gets kelsey involved they get the offense figured out shout out to eric b enemy

[00:39:18] defense you go spags chris jones nick bolton okay what do we got going on let's figure it out boom

[00:39:26] but the ravens is like you have henry and labar and it's like all right figure like get together

[00:39:36] figure out what we're gonna do on offense how are we gonna how are we gonna attack this other team

[00:39:39] and then on defense got real corn smith lane johnson talked about how his intelligence how he was

[00:39:45] calling out the plays he was like it was a very luke keekly like you know hall of fame level if only

[00:39:49] he could play corner it's like you have so much talent you shouldn't be struggling in games yes nfl

[00:39:59] games are possession here but there should be games where they shouldn't they should never be in a game

[00:40:06] where the final score is 19 16 13 10 19 well the problem with the ravens they should be really

[00:40:14] scoring when they need to get touchdowns because of what they have well speaking to your point about

[00:40:20] like who's the voice and all that the ravens have pretty much lost to every good team that they've

[00:40:28] played this year whether that's philly whether that's kansas city whether that was pittsburgh

[00:40:32] you know so on so forth you know what i mean like so so that's another um psychological disadvantage

[00:40:41] that they have you know like can you wait until the playoff to beat somebody decent yeah you can't and

[00:40:49] they talk people talk about oh they can flip the switch that's not you want momentum you want

[00:40:55] consistency you want to know like for instance i think philly held them to 12 yeah buffalo knows that

[00:41:04] on third and two we can do some kind of rollout and we got dawson knox

[00:41:13] josh allen shakir coming on like a drag and we can get this first down like we know it'll work

[00:41:21] two-point conversion we have these plays we worked them all year they work some of these ravens games

[00:41:28] where it's like you got 12 points 13 points 16 points and then you blow out buffalo it was like

[00:41:34] what do you guys have that you know that works other than this simple stat of if you give the

[00:41:39] ball to derek henry 20 times you win if they give to him 19 times if the nfl is rigged if the nfl is rigged

[00:41:46] philly will beat kansas city in the super bowl this year you know the team that the three pete started

[00:41:52] against ends the three pete poetry poetry is rigged dan campbell will keep going for fourth down

[00:42:01] the nfc championship game instead of kicking oh well then it's rigged because he gonna you know the

[00:42:06] chargers so the chargers are one of these teams that confuse me because when i look at the chargers

[00:42:11] and i know you hear this more in basketball than football usually but the chargers strike me as a

[00:42:17] team that's built for the playoffs the problem is you know like because their emphasis on the run

[00:42:23] you know sound defense they don't beat themselves that sounds like a recipe for success in the

[00:42:28] playoffs the problem is that jim harbaugh don't want to win games just like i talked about a few weeks

[00:42:35] ago against the arizona cardinals on monday night football justin herbert was putting on a clinic in

[00:42:40] the fourth quarter and jim harbaugh said you know what no we throw on it too much let's run this ball

[00:42:46] let's run some clock let's kick a field goal and give kyla murray the ball with a minute left

[00:42:52] you know he did the same thing in arrowhead the other night justin herbert at one point during the

[00:42:56] second half completed 10 straight passes the other night he was killing him he was killing

[00:43:00] them shredding the tight end 84 spark or smart he had like yeah he was killing him he had three

[00:43:08] catches all year he was that corner route was killing him each side of the ball and then he runs then he

[00:43:14] starts to run the ball you get a third and 16 you're in field goal range already so justin don't do

[00:43:19] nothing stupid but nope i'm gonna hand it off gain like two yards kick a field goal and guess what the

[00:43:26] chiefs get the ball back with like three minutes left we saw what this man did in 13 seconds you're

[00:43:31] gonna give them three minutes so so so like i don't know they had they had pretty much control the second

[00:43:38] half so it was like thinking like they had 13 points and they had 13 points that kansas city had

[00:43:46] to scramble for like i talked about kansas city needs i need i need two touchdown drives in the first half

[00:43:52] that look like touchdown drives i need a long conversion i need a big play i need i need to see

[00:43:59] these things if i'm a kansas city fan or if i mean if i'm on the team like okay we got two touchdown drives

[00:44:05] in a field goal so you're going to have 17 points i don't want this we look awful we get two field goals

[00:44:12] and then last minute of the first half we hopkins gets open and catches and backs into the end zone

[00:44:19] ever up 13-0 because when they came back out in the second half they had nothing to sustain because it's

[00:44:24] like they weren't building on stuff in the first half and i think that could be if they can't turn it

[00:44:29] around or if they can't get maybe some guys back to her and out of position defensively or whatever

[00:44:35] the case may be because they didn't look like they were going to be able to create any turnovers

[00:44:39] same thing what i was talking about with sam darno having a bunch of time it was that play that

[00:44:43] the touchdown pass at quentin johnson i think herbert had like he when he let the ball go there was no one

[00:44:51] in his space so he had it for a long time that guy came across the the the corner went to the flat

[00:44:58] and quentin johnson standard wide open in the end zone but he was he didn't it was no pressure on him

[00:45:02] then uh yeah so i would like to call the charges for me yeah i would like to call him a contender

[00:45:08] but i just can't get there i think people will call him a contender because of the coach and i

[00:45:12] guess schematically you need a good coach for the same sense your coach has to trust that i have

[00:45:19] playmakers well in a lot of ways in a lot of ways they're like pittsburgh light you know where it's

[00:45:25] like you know where i made the comment earlier about can i trust pittsburgh if i need points or

[00:45:32] if i need a long drive to get points to take control of a game chart and you you just gave up a touchdown

[00:45:40] like you're down 10 seven and a half and it's left in the third so that's a reasonable amount of time

[00:45:45] to get some points but are you can you trust that they're going to go down just let's get right

[00:45:50] touchdown let's cut it to three go back play good defense and then either tie it up and take the

[00:45:55] lead on this next possession right i think buffalo can do that buffalo down 10 can make that happen

[00:46:01] yeah and i'm gonna call the broncos a pretender you know um i like bo nicks um i like their defense

[00:46:10] you know i just think that they're a year early as far as where they are right now so so next year would be

[00:46:16] get this year under his belt and i think next year the broncos could potentially get into the

[00:46:22] contender category miami's probably kicking themselves i know this is a controversial topic

[00:46:27] and i bring it up a lot they're probably kicking themselves for putting two on ir maybe they would

[00:46:32] have just if they just would have said he's out for two weeks and then gone to because they had like

[00:46:39] i think it was three games and then they were into their bye and then he had to miss that next game

[00:46:43] yeah they should have said he was out taking those three games and the bye because that's that's

[00:46:52] essentially his four games is four games worth as far as a calendar and then he could have been back

[00:46:57] could have changed you could have changed the dynamic of the whole season because

[00:47:01] the ir was only going to make him miss four games so you had a bye they should just put him on they

[00:47:05] should just put him out it's not gonna bring in a bunch of extra players like keep them on the 53 man

[00:47:11] roster because the ir allows you to bring another player so what the dolphin still got it the dolphin

[00:47:16] still got it got it in front of them if but the problem is is that they need denver or the chargers

[00:47:22] to falter you know but they get the texans this week they get the 49ers banged up next week they

[00:47:28] get the browns after that and they close with the jets so listen if they have the schedule if

[00:47:33] huntley had to play one less game i think they'd be in a better position yeah and you know so we'll see

[00:47:39] what happens you know like i said the colts go to my mile high this weekend so the colts have a

[00:47:44] chance to get back into this conversation especially if the texans lose the miami lose the baltimore

[00:47:51] go to arrowhead so the colts are but the passing the passing game for the colts is their achilles heel

[00:47:58] yep yep and it ain't gonna happen like you can legit load you can go you can play eight guys in the

[00:48:06] box single high safety all day and just make him make throws you might get beat once or twice but like

[00:48:13] i would say single high safety all game long i wouldn't go too high at all i stay in the box so

[00:48:19] he can't run any draw plays i stay in the box so he can't do a quarterback keeper i keep a spy on

[00:48:26] i would just literally make him i would make his wide receivers beat one-on-one coverage or

[00:48:36] be you know that's like i said one high safety

[00:48:39] so then over in the nfc you know the lions have the bye right now but philly is on them oh yeah is that

[00:48:47] right

[00:48:51] nobody is like alex orgy it's close they're very similar but um you got the lions with the

[00:48:57] they would have the bye right now philly's right behind them and i mean right behind them you know

[00:49:03] um seattle would host green bay just like they are this weekend you know then you got minnesota with

[00:49:10] their 11 wins going down to raymond james to play tampa you got the commanders sitting there playing philly

[00:49:17] in a rematch you know you got the rams a game behind the commanders you got the falcons you know

[00:49:24] right right there as well behind the ram you know so all right so lions i think we're both going to

[00:49:31] say that the lions are a contender they're contender just i mean that 12-1 isn't fake i mean yes

[00:49:39] chicago did help them hey you know who they got this weekend right was chicago or detroit

[00:49:47] detroit they got no they got the bills coming in the forward field this weekend

[00:49:55] that's a realistic super bowl match if i'm dan campbell i don't pull out any tricks i keep it

[00:50:01] simple okay you know i keep it simple i i don't none of my trick plays with panace school

[00:50:07] none of my amara st brown throwing passes i keep it i keep it burned simple because if you're thinking

[00:50:14] you're a super bowl team you have super bowl aspirations that team it can be a team you play in

[00:50:21] yeah philly's got i would i'd keep i'd keep some things tight to the vest well if i leave it up to

[00:50:26] you this philly pittsburgh could be a super bowl matchup too it's all right before you even go there

[00:50:37] question question so and i'm only asking this question because of how last year ended

[00:50:44] are you a little concerned with the aj brown jalen hurt stuff going on right now uh i'm concerned that

[00:50:55] nfl players are treating these post-game interviews

[00:51:02] like text messages that they could just send directly to the person they're talking about i think that is

[00:51:12] you know what's wrong when he asked him what's wrong and he says passing

[00:51:17] he probably could he could have said something hey we got to find a way to make plays in the passing

[00:51:22] game you know i got to ensure that you know i'm running my routes appropriately getting the right depth

[00:51:28] you know giving jalen the good target i was a good win today it was close you know that carolina

[00:51:32] team has been coming on they're rallying around bryce young instead of being like passing it's like

[00:51:38] dog you're the number one target you're gonna get the ball that you know the game plan so like

[00:51:42] they're not gonna not throw you the ball next week so saying passing as if you're being alienated from

[00:51:51] the passing game like if you were like the third wide receiver and you were like i'm open all thing

[00:51:56] game long all season long they never throw me the ball that's one thing but it's like you're getting the

[00:52:02] ball you're gonna get targets maybe jalen to miss you maybe he don't want to force a turnover maybe

[00:52:09] he wants to you know keep it simple and right and right away that's something you can talk to him

[00:52:13] about when the media leaves that's the only part i dislike about it uh yeah i just i just think i'm

[00:52:20] just a little nervous with what happened i mean i mean i don't really fuck with the eagles like that

[00:52:26] but i'm just but i'm just saying like you know i like after what happened last year and how

[00:52:30] things because we still don't necessarily know what went down last year but we just know that the

[00:52:35] collapse came it was it was definitely like personality conflicts i think if i had imagined jalen probably is

[00:52:45] he probably he's probably not with the tomfoolery he a damn thief is what he is

[00:52:49] you're probably not with the bs and he probably doesn't like if it wasn't for jail and hurt saquon

[00:52:55] barkley would be having a jerry rice level season yeah but they call it and saquon's out there and

[00:53:01] saquon was mic'd up against the giants saying run it again well saquon would be a little bit more

[00:53:07] selfish than you know sam but uh the seahawks he's the calming he's the calming piece i think that's

[00:53:13] gonna allow them because if all else fails you could just give it to saquon and keep the drives going

[00:53:19] which would then open up the play action aj brown gets his deep shot that he wants because he could

[00:53:24] probably get three catches in the game six targets but if he gets two touchdowns on those three catches

[00:53:30] he won't say shit about passing in the post-game interview so i like the seahawks i i see them as

[00:53:38] pretender just because i just i don't i don't there's not a lot of evidence that says that they are going to

[00:53:45] be contenders but they're definitely coming on as of late and i am excited for this game against green

[00:53:51] bay this weekend i mean not only is it the matchup that we would have today if it was the playoffs but

[00:53:56] it's a matchup against a team that they're going to have to compete with and how this is the thing

[00:54:03] with a young team you know and with a new coach how do you well i guess they're not young as far as

[00:54:07] quarterback but yeah how do you but how do you how do you handle prosperity you know a lot of teams

[00:54:14] flourish when they're in the spoiler role when there's not much expectation upon you but once you

[00:54:21] have a potential and people start to believe in you how do you respond then that's what i'm looking

[00:54:27] for out of seattle so i'm gonna say pretender for now you know but that defense if it can continue

[00:54:33] the way that it's playing the only thing i don't trust on that team is geno smith yeah but he's he has

[00:54:42] a little moxie to him he has a little you know like you know he's been what does that even mean

[00:54:49] you know been a cast off uh let's say i think they're one of the teams playing with house money

[00:54:55] um i'm not sure what the expectation level is even from their fan base i can't imagine because you know

[00:55:01] on these different platforms and different uh sports groups it's not a lot of seattle fans kind

[00:55:07] of screaming from the rooftop i know one personally that i retired last year i used to work with back at

[00:55:12] hill he'll hit me up every once in a while he hit me up when seattle beat atlanta like he should be like

[00:55:17] a little message but for the most part i don't see a lot of their fans on these forums kind of like

[00:55:22] just screaming from the mountaintops i think they're just kind of liking where they are and i see auto

[00:55:27] doing well because it makes me and a comms happy and um you know tampa bay pretender contender

[00:55:40] they're contender to me because of their quarterback i think he's one of those guys that you can count on

[00:55:48] for sure to play up to and beyond the level of the moment i think their secondary is as bad as he is

[00:55:57] good yeah it's there's gonna be you gotta have a flaw somewhere i just feel like his capabilities

[00:56:05] his ability to just be there be the driving force be the energy be the personality and like i said i think

[00:56:13] he feels at home in tampa i think he feels it's like after he walked on at texas tech and then he got to

[00:56:20] oklahoma and it was like oh they like this kind of baker because in cleveland they everyone kept telling

[00:56:26] him to tone it down tone it down tone it down well he better give speeches he better give the speeches

[00:56:30] because todd bowles is real jonathan gannon like and sometimes that works you know like it's a marriage

[00:56:37] sometimes you need the introvert and extrovert okay to vert because you know what let's let's stay focused here

[00:56:42] and expert like listen let's just go for it and this is why an introvert's like you know you know what

[00:56:47] you broke it down it makes sense let's go for it uh but i like baker mayfield because

[00:56:52] there's quarterbacks that we can point out that are out of these out of these 14 teams

[00:56:57] and say like i don't think that guy's gonna make the play you need when it's it's necessary like

[00:57:03] i think people can look at justin herbert like i don't know if he can make the play every time

[00:57:07] in the playoffs lamar hasn't been able to make the play uh cj stroud because of his offensive line

[00:57:13] plays like i don't know if he has to drive in him i think down six buccaneers with the ball a minute

[00:57:20] 40 left a timeout or two i'd have faith that baker would get you in the end zone vikings pretender

[00:57:32] contender contender for the same reasons that i think tampa bay is a contender i like the quarterback

[00:57:38] i like how i like the marriage like sam darnold the marriage between coach and quarterback not me

[00:57:46] i don't want him on my team nobody like sam darnold well i don't know why if you look at him this year

[00:57:53] listen i'm not saying he's mvp or anything like that or maybe most improved i can give him that a

[00:57:59] glass slipper don't fit okay well at what point this glass of we're not going to fit at 11 and 2.

[00:58:05] this isn't sec football this is nfl football 11 and i mean he just did five touchdowns two days ago

[00:58:14] it's not like he struggled to their 11 and two like they were five and oh he was throwing the ball over

[00:58:18] the place i think he have the record for the longest touchdown completion uh no i think no i think that

[00:58:27] time is going to run out on them like we saw this a couple years ago even though it was a different

[00:58:31] quarterback the vikings winning all these one score games and till they can't win the one score games

[00:58:38] sam darnold last week against the falcons had that three scores well they did he had that five touchdown

[00:58:45] game against the falcons last week that's obviously an aberration you know uh his passion

[00:58:52] rating wasn't perfect that's weird right his passion rating was 157 point yeah it's like what 158.3 to be

[00:59:00] perfect i don't even know how they came up with that and i think it was like 20 for 29 340 yards and

[00:59:06] five touchdowns yeah well when i look at when i look at the teams on this list you know like if he has to go to

[00:59:15] seattle for example i don't know if i trust him to win in that environment you know um because we got to

[00:59:21] also remember that he doesn't have much but you don't trust the seattle quarterback no but but

[00:59:28] but i trust that home field advantage against a quarterback that doesn't have playoff experience

[00:59:34] okay i'll give you that you know what i mean um i think that they would lose the tampa like

[00:59:38] that's the first round matchup right now i think tampa will win that game you know i think they can't beat

[00:59:44] detroit i think they can't beat philly you know them in green bay is a toss-up but i don't think green

[00:59:51] you know so um i think that never mind i ain't gonna say that but uh the packers pretender

[00:59:59] pretender because i'm just not yeah jordan love i think used all his coins last year

[01:00:07] like i think that it's not they're a bad team i just think that no they're not a bad team at all

[01:00:15] it's just like you can't like everybody can't everybody can't get a trophy yeah yeah like so

[01:00:20] when i look at the teams are more locked in like the turnovers that he had early he toned the

[01:00:24] turnovers down well i brought this up a couple of weeks ago where i said that their defense reminds

[01:00:29] me a lot of that new orleans defense that won the super bowl back in 2009 they weren't necessarily a

[01:00:37] good defense they were just very opportunistic and they had the quarterback that would make you pay

[01:00:42] when you gave them opportunity but over the last few weeks just observing green bay

[01:00:50] fuck opportunistic this defense is not good like they have one or two really good players and the rest

[01:00:57] of the defense is not that great and yeah that's a good point mike brian flores has that defense i'm in

[01:01:04] buying them you know it's playing out of his mind i love van ginkel you know um they they have a few

[01:01:10] players that i like but i'm more so just focused on sam donald you but uh focus on the record you

[01:01:17] don't believe you don't believe that the quarterback is really as good as the record right it's very

[01:01:24] similar to the 11 and 0 pittsburgh steelers that we saw a few years back very similar to that it's

[01:01:29] very similar to the 12 and 1 chiefs it's like you don't think the record matches the team and i

[01:01:34] gee that would with minnesota but minnesota has done it differently like what like they've gotten

[01:01:43] they've gotten big games out of aaron jones they just had a historic game with jordan addison and

[01:01:49] you know jefferson i just think in early on in the season like that first five games where they won

[01:01:57] brian flores defense like the way he was disguised and you know his coverages was like

[01:02:01] i just feel like throughout this entire year as we you know we section off in quarters

[01:02:07] every single quarter of the year to this point they have shown you a different level of like why

[01:02:13] they are an elite team they're just a conference for some reason that i didn't see three teams

[01:02:22] with 11 wins at this point and i think the packers i mean the packers get that stop and they kick the

[01:02:30] field goal they would have 10 wins the lions would have 11 and the vikings would have 11 as we had this

[01:02:37] conversation today so it's just the the conference is just you know like i said on top of the fact

[01:02:42] with philly with their 11 wins so it's like it just so many wins that you're looking at minnesota

[01:02:48] it has to be fool's goal but if you break it down there's a lot of good teams that don't have that

[01:02:52] many wins there's a lot of teams that have quote-unquote more talented quarterbacks that don't have that win

[01:02:57] have a lot of teams that have coaches that everybody adores people love jim john harbaugh and

[01:03:03] jim harbaugh and a lot of these other coaches kevin o'connell for some reason doesn't get a lot of love

[01:03:09] for coach of the year and it's like minnesota hasn't really been like this dynamic off yeah he's

[01:03:15] like the one mcveigh dude that's holding it down you know and he just gets it gets passed he gets looked

[01:03:20] over because it's like uh it doesn't seem real because that team has been so poor yeah and jair

[01:03:27] alexander absolutely is the key to that defense but when i think of jair alexander i just have austin

[01:03:33] powers playing in my head daddy wasn't there you know said because he's never there you know uh washington

[01:03:43] pretender you know just too young right now you know um jayden's got to take his lumps you know the

[01:03:50] defense has got to get a lot better before i can consider them a contender um the rams if they were to

[01:03:56] get in i guess you give them a puncher's chance just because of their experience but you know this

[01:04:01] is the first week against buffalo that they've looked like what we might have expected them to

[01:04:07] look like a little bit with all their weapons together so we'll see if they can hold it up

[01:04:13] thursday night when they go to san francisco because that's the type of game not because san

[01:04:18] francisco is good because we know that san francisco's hurt and injured and all that but

[01:04:23] this is the type of game that if you want to be a playoff team you have to put a stamp on that game

[01:04:27] yeah and this kind of game that the rams will lose yeah but a lot of people said the falcons are

[01:04:34] out of here yeah putting up 44 points against buffalo and then a short week against the division

[01:04:40] opponent uh two guys that seem to have the same type of coaching personality coaching swag

[01:04:48] and that's the game they'll just drop it'll just be one of those 24 18 games out of nowhere yeah you

[01:04:53] see that mike you know saying uh rafman out here listening to push-ups you know i asked him about

[01:04:58] the falcons he said the rams got you wiped down washington got you wiped down yes

[01:05:06] you know i'm saying but yeah but that's where we are you know saying contender or pretender or

[01:05:11] pretender or contender you know so of course there's more the field is set we by god have us

[01:05:25] a college football playoff pull up my bracket it is final i got you it's it's finally here

[01:05:33] you know like i don't know what to do with any of this i love it i love the complaints i love the

[01:05:44] whining that's going on i love the bs that have been reading the bs i've been hearing i love cam

[01:05:51] newton's bs statement that he made which is just scc bias up and down if you want to have the national

[01:05:59] championship strictly be an scc team then at the end of the scc championship wherever that team is they

[01:06:07] win it you go ahead hang a banner for them as national champion but as the real people and the

[01:06:13] real fans look at the sport we're going to look at the entire playoffs people are already mad about the

[01:06:19] 12 team format because it didn't play out the way that they wanted that's fine it's that's it is what

[01:06:26] it is it's never going to be the way you want i didn't like the 14 team playoff in the nfl because

[01:06:31] it's 32 teams you letting 45 of the league in i didn't like the play in quick maps you letting 66

[01:06:38] of the league and you got 20 teams in the playoff run everybody don't deserve a shot but at 12 you

[01:06:43] you divvy it up and then you want to give every sec school a shot there's still people clamoring for

[01:06:49] south carolina old miss and alabama i'm like well one of those teams lost to the other two so you gotta

[01:06:55] you gotta find some kind of criteria that you can rest on that you can eliminate some people everybody

[01:07:01] can't get into the club it's a max capacity the fire marshal doesn't allow for you just let everybody in

[01:07:08] so smu people like i think that was one of those hooks people try to lock in they lost two games and

[01:07:15] they had they were tied in the final two minutes of both of those games acc championship kick at the

[01:07:23] buzzer and they were down and came back and it's their first year in the conference certain things have

[01:07:30] to be rewarded you can't just give everybody a shot because of the history of their team

[01:07:38] 12 teams is a lot but four teams wasn't enough and if you knew if it was eight it would only be

[01:07:45] sec school so you gotta send it to 12 just to give some kind of variance to the the the teams in it

[01:07:53] because i heard one pundit forgot about the podcast he's like we all know it should just be big 10 and sec

[01:07:59] schools in this uh tournament all this bracket or uh organ was a pack 12 team or uh organ was a

[01:08:09] pack 12 team that went to the big 10 and won it uh the big arizona state was a pack 12 team

[01:08:16] uh well we got smu they were conference usa or aac yeah they would be america the acc and had to

[01:08:24] lead that field goal against michigan overtime never know what happens uh texas came from big 12

[01:08:29] where they played no defense uh and you know you just can run up and down on them and they go to the

[01:08:34] vaunted sec though they didn't play any top schools well the top schools didn't play each other they

[01:08:38] still lost games too and texas was in a championship game there so like i said i get it indiana they did

[01:08:47] that thing and they you know they ran to the big 10 and they came out 11 and one they deserve their shot

[01:08:51] it's not their fault that their conference was really really good they didn't need anyone to

[01:08:56] argue for them they didn't need coaches from schools that lost three games go to twitter

[01:09:00] every two and a half days talking about oh talk i'm talking about lane kiffin the sec coaches can't

[01:09:08] have it both ways and i put this on the page earlier you cannot clamor to be in the tough conference

[01:09:17] get the money and the tv and the notoriety and the popularity from being in a tough conference

[01:09:22] and then complain about the losses you get because you play in a tough conference

[01:09:27] you gotta own it in his tweet he cited late he cited george's win over clemson as an argument for his team

[01:09:40] you can't do that like joe button says everybody's killing what the fuck is all the punks just because

[01:09:46] you're from a tough neighborhood doesn't make you tough you just hang you just live in a tough block

[01:09:54] and every once in a while you get in fights but the last couple times we see you fight you got

[01:09:59] stumped out you don't get a chance to come to the to the to the main event because you keep losing these

[01:10:05] fights you had opportunities to win i mean you lost to kentucky

[01:10:10] four and eight kentucky that lost to newville that lost to newville from the same conference that you

[01:10:17] tried to shit on miami from that same conference that you tried to shit on went into the swamp where

[01:10:23] you lost and dominated the you know let's talk about your brother for a second your brother over

[01:10:30] in tuscaloosa that got beat by a vanderbilt team that lost to georgia state i did not say georgia i did

[01:10:38] at georgia state and mr logical i just said kentucky was four and eight georgia state was three and nine

[01:10:44] in the fucking sunbelt they won one game in the sunbelt conference but they beat the team that beat

[01:10:51] alabama so let me let me tell you something else conference championships right we already said it

[01:11:00] conference championship games are nothing but money grabs absolutely and you know what if we just want

[01:11:05] to use this season as like a short as a short synopsis of why give me a second here

[01:11:17] so oregon the only undefeated the only undefeated team in the country they went undefeated in the pack

[01:11:24] in the big ten while we need a championship game boise went undefeated in the mountain west

[01:11:30] why we need a conference championship game smu went undefeated in the accc why we need a conference

[01:11:36] championship game army went undefeated in the american why we need a conference championship game

[01:11:42] texas was the only team in the sec to lose one game in the conference why do we need a championship game

[01:11:50] because sponsors need money and now and when you take that back let me stop the bullshit right now

[01:11:58] because i know everybody's gonna say but notre dame doesn't play in a conference they get to sit at

[01:12:04] home while everybody else plays a conference championship game well so did alabama and old

[01:12:09] miss and you want them in so did south carolina and you want them in notre dame i ain't even gonna sit

[01:12:16] up here and act like notre dame got the toughest schedule every year but notre dame is the one team

[01:12:22] that you can say plays a team from the sec the big ten they play five from the acc every year due to

[01:12:30] contract they play against option teams in navy they played army this year as well for good measure

[01:12:36] so let's stop that conversation right now you don't like notre dame not being in the conference

[01:12:41] step up to the plate and beat them so that's that's second of all you know saying third of all

[01:12:48] you know saying old miss not only did you lose to kentucky you lost to lsu who lost to usc

[01:13:02] alabama you lost by 21 to oklahoma and the very next week that same lsu team beat oklahoma by 20

[01:13:13] at one point this season the vanderbilt team that beat you was texas's best win and don't even get me

[01:13:20] started on texas because look what texas a&m is their best win that's the only team they beat in

[01:13:25] the sec that had a winning sec record this year and i'm supposed to believe this is a national title

[01:13:30] contender when they couldn't even beat georgia with carson beck dangling his arm i'm supposed to

[01:13:37] believe this team is going to win the national title so as i look at this listen that's all come

[01:13:43] down to the preseason rankings that's the thing i think the sec schools felt like because everyone

[01:13:49] kept saying is that oh bamas three and one against ranked teams and i brought up the miami point last

[01:13:56] week when miami played syracuse syracuse was eight and three unranked meanwhile all the sec schools with

[01:14:05] two or three losses were still ranked that's how bama and teams in the sec get these ranked wins because

[01:14:13] they keep a team like mississippi state could be four and two but if they got a game against bama or

[01:14:19] old miss coming up they'll be at 25 army will be six and oh they'll be 26 waiting on the outside waiting

[01:14:27] for that that game to end and then they'll bump them up after the following week after they get the win

[01:14:33] wait you know what's funny get the win and that's and that's the whole thing because i like as far as

[01:14:39] the bracket goes i think this is the most as far as like like i said the 16 team pot that the the

[01:14:46] committee was going to get old miss alabama south carolina had won too many losses to try to justify

[01:14:56] that's why everything that they're saying now doesn't make any sense and i get that texas didn't play a

[01:15:02] strong schedule oregon didn't play a very strong schedule ohio state had a couple of losses oh yes they

[01:15:08] did oregon yeah they played they played two teams in this bracket right here okay i get you that but

[01:15:17] that's i get it but like i said georgia played some tough games but when georgia was like on the verge

[01:15:25] when georgia had two losses and indiana was undefeated people were trying to get georgia in over

[01:15:31] indiana so it's like they're already setting a press and they're trying to get to sec schools and i get it

[01:15:35] and that i think old miss bam like old miss head coach mainly because i haven't seen many people

[01:15:41] post about it old miss's head coach bama fans and some other you know people who are trying to clamor for

[01:15:49] south carolina they were trying to talk those three and it's like yo those three cancel each other out

[01:15:54] because of the way their season played out and actually if alabama beats oklahoma they're good to go

[01:15:59] they're in yeah they're in and actually if you want to count this you know the championship game

[01:16:04] oregon played three teams in this bracket you know they played ohio state penn state and boise

[01:16:11] you know what i'm saying but i'm just saying but but you know but but you know but you know you know

[01:16:15] what's funny about stats the funny thing about stats are if you listen to me and you listen to espn

[01:16:25] on one side you get some facts and on the other side you get some bullshit because what espn kept

[01:16:30] putting on the screen when they were comparing alabama and smu was their records against teams

[01:16:37] over 500 and that's why they were like obama's three and one so but if i reduce that and go

[01:16:45] add the teams that are 500 oh you six and six vandy six and six that's why espn ain't put

[01:16:56] that shit on the screen yeah that's why it doesn't take the narrative and that's what i'm saying once

[01:17:03] you once they got the three laws the sec that they got a contract with by the way

[01:17:09] once those teams or any team got the three losses it was gonna take a hell of a lobbying

[01:17:18] agreement a hell of a consultant firm to get you into this 12 like i said i was hoping

[01:17:25] i figured the committee was going to try to get bama in i didn't think bama was the best of the three

[01:17:32] options even though they beat south kline ahead ahead i just felt like alabama had lost a little

[01:17:38] bit of their luster and if you're looking at them playing i was like they were getting dominated it wasn't

[01:17:44] like they were in these games they looked completely discombobulated

[01:17:49] in their three losses and like i said in their best win against georgia they had a 28 to nothing lead

[01:17:56] and had to come back no one brings that up like the pundits just simply say bama beat georgia yeah

[01:18:03] they had a four touchdown lead and lost the lead oh oh miss put that thing on georgia they put it on

[01:18:10] their forehead you know but but like but i know i keep bashing oklahoma but one last thing so they

[01:18:17] went six and six they beat bam about 21 they went six and six two of those wins are maine and temple

[01:18:30] this these are your heroes you know so so when i first looked at this bracket i know a lot of people

[01:18:36] are out here talking about oh look at this the conference champs shouldn't get automatic buys

[01:18:42] because xyz they aren't the best team so they don't want you have to have you have to have some kind of

[01:18:48] structure you have to have some kind of structure just like the nfl we just talked about it right

[01:18:53] tampa would host minnesota today even though minnesota's 11 and 2 and tampa's only seven and six

[01:19:00] six because winning has to matter winning your division winning your conference whatever it is

[01:19:06] if that's the case then abolish it don't have any conferences just have 134 contracted teams if you will

[01:19:12] but when i look at this bracket for example i look at oregon at number one okay they're the undefeated

[01:19:21] team in the country only one that makes perfect sense to me georgia you want to say the sec

[01:19:27] is the toughest conference and they won the sec okay i can buy that at number two now if you got a

[01:19:32] problem with boise at number three what do you put there then you tell if you know just going off of

[01:19:40] how things played out you know saying you tell clemson not to lose to louisville that simple you tell

[01:19:49] clemson not to lose to south carolina and there's your three seed but the games have to matter the

[01:19:58] results have to matter you need that format that locks in something it has to be structured

[01:20:05] everything else is everything else can be influenced by conjecture positioning because like uh what's

[01:20:12] the first year of it that don't mean it's gonna be like this next year the chairman ward manual oh yeah

[01:20:19] ward manual he said he had one statement last week basically saying hey the rankings are set there's not

[01:20:26] much anybody can do to change anything and then they watch the game and they watch smu and they thought

[01:20:32] i think smu deserves more of a shot than bamma meanwhile saying that they redo the rankings every week

[01:20:42] some some of the things they just need to be a little bit more honest i would personally like a

[01:20:49] reseeding after the first round so if we're looking at eight nine or the nine eight matchup 12-5 11-6

[01:20:56] and then the 10-7 matchup if all the so 10 11 12 and nine win then i want to reseed it to where 12 will

[01:21:07] play one 11 to play two 10 will play three or in four play seven you know like or however it's played out

[01:21:18] yeah highest plays lowest and you go from there yeah yeah and i remember early this year when you said

[01:21:23] because i don't know if we said it on the pod if we said oh we definitely said it on the pod when we did our

[01:21:28] preview i the the example that i used was what if your ohio state i remember what i said now

[01:21:34] what i said was if you're ohio state and you're number one and then you're eight nine is georgia

[01:21:44] against a penn state team that you beat already this year that's going to be motivated to get revenge

[01:21:50] against you that is unfair from the standpoint of if your number four is somebody like say

[01:21:59] tennessee you were thinking and we were thinking boise state was going to be your 12th seed right

[01:22:03] yeah they were going to be the 12 yeah boise was going to be the 12 in that scenario so your five

[01:22:08] would have played boise and then just going off of perception they would have played the weakest

[01:22:14] power four conference champion since that would have been the four seed not saying that that team is

[01:22:19] automatically the worst but just perception wise being the four seed they're the worst of the power

[01:22:26] champions so as the five seed that was the sweet spot because even looking at this bracket now and

[01:22:31] like i said it's year one so i don't want to overreact but if i'm oregon right now and i'm looking at yo

[01:22:38] i get the winner of ohio state tennessee you know what i'm saying and hypothetically you know texas if

[01:22:45] texas beats clemson you got the 12 seed and the weakest power conference champ the power conference

[01:22:52] champion that the committee put boise in front of so you also have another thing that is uh kind of a

[01:23:00] setback so ohio state's getting a home game texas getting a home game penn state's getting a home game

[01:23:06] notre dame's getting a home game oregon's playing their game in the rose bowl so it's oregon they're

[01:23:11] playing their game in california arizona couldn't get the fiesta bowl because it would have been a home

[01:23:17] game in the second round even though these other teams that didn't do as well as them per the ranking

[01:23:26] system all were just obliged to get home games yeah george gets the sugar bowl so arizona couldn't

[01:23:33] play the fiesta bowl because it had been a home game so they got to play the peach bowl

[01:23:36] so arizona can end up playing clemson in atlanta so tell me like what's gonna be the advantage there

[01:23:47] then you got boise they're playing arizona i think that's only a couple of states away it's not too

[01:23:53] not too crazy oh it's still far but yeah not so bad i guess it's just two states relatively speaking

[01:23:58] yeah yeah like you can make that drive in a caravan in a couple of dates you know no illegals we're not

[01:24:06] saying that uh but but even but georgia gets the sugar bowl they're getting their game in new orleans

[01:24:12] against an indiana team in like a team from indiana so they're getting their game down south too so it's

[01:24:18] like well not only that but going back to my point about the one in the five look at the two and the

[01:24:24] three you know like georgia gets the winner of this notre dame indiana game whoever wins that 611 is

[01:24:32] going to feel great playing against boise you know what i mean and that's the thing you know

[01:24:39] what i mean is that like i'm not and i'm not saying manipulate the bracket you know i'm just saying

[01:24:44] that it has to make sense because like i think it makes sense per the logic that they had already

[01:24:49] like i said we there was no logic we talk about these rules ahead of time like the whole if the

[01:24:55] offensive team fumbles at the back of the end zone why should that be a touchback because that's the rule

[01:25:00] it's the rule that everybody knows when the season starts like you enter the season knowing this is

[01:25:06] the case catching the ball going through the ground holding on to the ball we may dislike the rule but

[01:25:12] everyone knows what it is clearly and it has examples of how it works so this was the format they might tweak

[01:25:21] it i personally don't think they should because i don't want too much influence i need something

[01:25:26] standard i need a standardized process and you can tweak the maybe the reseeding but that's about it

[01:25:34] yeah i just think that the highest ranked conference winners i like that because it does give you this

[01:25:42] variable yeah i think i think it's just year one and we can't overreact we just can't overreact it's

[01:25:49] year one overreacting because it's this narrative that there's this narrative out there that

[01:25:55] college football fans don't want to watch college football games if the team on the helmet isn't

[01:26:05] one of these blue bloods that's yeah you got dickheads like cam newton out here talking about

[01:26:10] don't nobody want to watch indiana don't nobody want to watch arizona state and it's the same things we

[01:26:16] talk about with the nba you know when you get to nobody what do you what do you mean like what does that

[01:26:21] mean like do you like football or not exactly that's it this team earned it's not like it's a a raffle

[01:26:28] it wasn't like hey everyone put their their team helmet in this ping pong machine and if your helmet

[01:26:35] pops up you get in they played 12 games they won 11 of them smu played 13 games they won 11 of them

[01:26:42] boys state played 13 games they won 12 of them they have probably in some people's ballots the leading

[01:26:49] heisman candidate on their on their team so it's like you want football you want good football i want

[01:26:56] to see boise state versus penn state because cam newton forgets like auburn wasn't that good

[01:27:04] until he got there that one year and they've been mediocre pretty much they had a couple of good runs

[01:27:08] but he was a dynamic player like what if people say you know what auburn's been so bad recently we

[01:27:14] don't care that they have the potential number one pick and a heisman trophy player and are undefeated

[01:27:19] they they had to come back against uh alabama in the iron bowl we don't want them in the national

[01:27:25] championship game what if someone said that and then a committee had a had the power to not put them in

[01:27:33] strictly over that statement you know that's not my problem so when you first saw the bracket

[01:27:39] they love meritocracy until they don't get the results hey that's some shit hey that's some

[01:27:44] shit i love it um what was your first reaction when you saw the bracket when you first like when it was

[01:27:49] unveiled what was the first thing you took away when i saw the bracket because it was already on and i

[01:27:55] finally got settled and i started watching it i looked and see if smu made it and if alabama didn't

[01:28:03] and then when smu made i'm like okay i it was like i said i know i keep picking on alabama's example but

[01:28:10] that is the example of like you know they said it's like the marathon lost to alabama you work

[01:28:18] they lost to oklahoma like if you do the work you should be rewarded with the opportunity for the

[01:28:25] promotion smu did the work it's not as if they were an sec school and they went in the acc and

[01:28:33] then dominated they were a smaller conference school went to the acc is like yes yeah get it

[01:28:38] everybody didn't play a dominant schedule texas didn't miami didn't i think the miami vitriol was

[01:28:45] a little bit more than i wanted but i think they had to i think people had to dump on miami

[01:28:52] in order to to levitate one of the three sec schools that people felt were left out one of

[01:28:57] those we lost yeah you can't you can't make it on your own merit so you have to tear somebody else

[01:29:01] you got to tear miami down and like i said miami gets a stop on that last drop against syracuse

[01:29:07] does that make their schedule that any much better no no because then syracuse wouldn't be ranked

[01:29:13] anyway they would be but they'd be in they'd be in with no rank wins i mean so it's like they would

[01:29:21] they would have been in anyway so like there's going to be teams like boise state if boise has two

[01:29:27] losses they probably don't get in because of where they start we understand that as a season plays up

[01:29:34] but when we got to the end and everybody hit their check marks even though everyone didn't get the same

[01:29:41] list of requirements some schools were allowed a variance that every other schools didn't get

[01:29:47] ohio state hadn't had uh an option that other teams didn't have for instance miami miami's

[01:29:54] 10-2 ohio state's 10-2 ohio state's last game was a loss and it was a bad loss miami lost on the road

[01:30:00] ohio state lost at home but they were like oh that was a rivalry game so well yeah and and to residente's

[01:30:07] point you know bama played a five and seven wisconsin team a six and six south florida team same record as

[01:30:14] that oklahoma team that beat alabama and that vanderbilt team that beat alabama and they played

[01:30:19] mercer that was the out of conference schedule you know when you have an when you have a when you have

[01:30:25] a schedule that you know is weak when you're scared when you know your schedule is weaker when you look

[01:30:31] at it preseason it's like we have a schedule that we have to go 11 and one with georgia had a schedule

[01:30:38] that allowed them to go 10 and two they were allowed like ohio state had a schedule that allowed

[01:30:45] them to go 10 and two and then indiana being a really good team and penn state being really good

[01:30:50] this year helped them out but they had they had wiggle room to go 10 and two my alabama didn't have

[01:30:58] the wiggle room to go nine and three because they didn't lose to georgia and they didn't lose

[01:31:07] to south carolina if they were to beat everybody else and two of their three losses were georgia

[01:31:14] and south carolina then maybe maybe the argument would have been a little bit more

[01:31:20] you can say look at my tough schedule you know look at my tough schedule i lost tough games i still

[01:31:28] have a bigger argument so smu's like listen we lost to byu who was ranked in the top 10 for a lot

[01:31:34] of the year and we were in our you know new conference so hey we get our shot hey hey uh

[01:31:42] res i'll give you one guess who old miss opened the season up against this year so what stood out to me

[01:31:49] um when i first saw the bracket was notre dame and indiana playing each other they are they're in the

[01:31:55] same state and having played each other since 1991 so like little old me that remember that game in

[01:32:02] 1991 was like hey that's awesome my second thought was what they gonna do with georgia because yes

[01:32:09] they're the sec champion or you can't put them number one just because oregon's the only undefeated

[01:32:14] team but i was like what do you do with georgia now with this carson beck situation but you know they put

[01:32:20] them at number they put them at number two anyway then should they be you know no should they be

[01:32:27] they should be four without their starting quarterback the problem is is that you can't

[01:32:30] put boise in no i said first game mike first game of the season like uh no you can't um

[01:32:37] no because in that situation you're you're kind of talking about

[01:32:42] putting boise in front of georgia and i don't know if you can do that

[01:32:46] well they kept fsu out because they didn't have a quarterback even though i mean but it was only

[01:32:50] 14 it's a little different little different you know what i mean the third thing that stood out to

[01:32:56] me was why they do texas like that clemson about the walk into dkr stomp a mud hole and walk it dry

[01:33:06] kate club nick from austin texas you know oh man it just writes itself that's why they did that game

[01:33:13] probably where would you put them if you would you put well see see this is no because well this is

[01:33:18] my thing and this is where you get into you know college football because college football doesn't

[01:33:24] have any logic so for example we were arguing people were arguing about south carolina being in

[01:33:32] instead of man you look that up mike you know

[01:33:36] it's i said i said guess i didn't say look it up i knew the answer you know that but um

[01:33:43] but yeah um yeah i lost my train of thought now oh so clemson um so so we were talking about south

[01:33:50] carolina they should be in and then i would say but they lost to bama and old miss so i can't put them

[01:33:59] in if i'm not going to put one of those two teams in so for clemson situation they have the conference

[01:34:05] title why not put them in front of smu so you could have just simply put clemson at 11 and put smu at

[01:34:12] 12. you have two texas teams playing i mean you yeah i mean not on purpose but yeah like you know

[01:34:19] what i mean i think i know you look at it so so mr logical i think that being on purpose wouldn't

[01:34:25] have been a bad idea because you have two indiana teams playing and it would make sense since clemson

[01:34:30] beat smu if you if you swap them i wouldn't it wouldn't it wouldn't you know it wouldn't blow my mind to have

[01:34:37] them at 11 or 12. so mr logical this is old missus out of conference schedule

[01:34:43] they opened up the seaman season

[01:34:54] they opened up the season with the mighty paladins of firman

[01:35:02] you know they won that game 76 to nothing that's a real score they played middle tennessee state

[01:35:10] you know saying i'll give y'all one more guess don't look it up mike what city is middle tennessee

[01:35:15] stayed in all right they won that game 52 to 3 they went to wake forest you know and they won that game 40 to 6

[01:35:25] they played georgia southern from the sun belt and they won that game 52 to 13. where this tough

[01:35:34] out of conference schedule at at least south carolina plays clemson out of conference he was banking on

[01:35:42] sec strength of schedule being the the the strength of schedule metric works in an argument for your top

[01:35:54] team with the least amount of losses being represented it can't work for all of them because

[01:36:01] all of them everybody's strength of schedule in sec is going to be higher you can't just disregard the

[01:36:06] fact that other teams played their 12 games as well that's the problem is like your strength of schedule

[01:36:12] at oh miss yet it could be 22 could be 21 whatever it is but of that you lost three of your 12 games

[01:36:25] and for those of you playing at home and for those of you playing at home if you guessed that middle

[01:36:31] tennessee state plays their football in murfreesboro tennessee you are correct

[01:36:38] you know but and and by the way they played all those games at home yeah georgia southern plays in

[01:36:44] statesboro by the way statesboro georgia but you know but but as i was so so as i was looking at the

[01:36:49] bracket then i said wow they really put boise at number three and it's a damn shame that boise and

[01:36:58] number one only undefeated team oregon don't even get a home game in the playoffs

[01:37:07] why am i the number one seed if i can't even have a home game

[01:37:12] listen heavy as a head that wears a crown like i said you get a couple extra weeks off

[01:37:20] you just gotta hope your fans travel i saw something today that said the most expensive

[01:37:25] ticket at the indiana notre dame game is 4 800 the cheapest ticket is like 9 90.

[01:37:33] uh you want to see the hoosiers don't they you gotta hope that the crypto money the trust fund money

[01:37:39] the the capital one credit cards the american express cards all get accepted the bearer bonds

[01:37:48] the travel vouchers whatever people need to pay for tickets to fill these stadiums

[01:37:53] that's what you're gonna have to get um playing their game at the rose bowl like i mean

[01:37:58] you're gonna get it you're gonna get something like that anyway because in previous years

[01:38:05] the the the four teams are playing on the road anyway so like having another home game like i'd

[01:38:14] rather have a free week versus a home game like list you want to see us come down from oregon to

[01:38:21] california watch the game hey quick quick just to have a game at home quick question for y'all out

[01:38:29] there how many of y'all out there watching the nba cup tonight um so my next observation when looking

[01:38:37] at the bracket the milwaukee bucks advanced by the way you know uh okc's up 12 with three minutes left

[01:38:45] um my next observation was what are we gonna get from ohio state you know the last time we saw ohio

[01:38:51] state they were getting their shit pushed in by the wolverines training day style and now they got

[01:38:57] tennessee coming in with one of the best defensive lines in the country against their beat up offensive

[01:39:02] line they're coming in broken because they just got out toughed and out muscled by their rival you

[01:39:09] know what i mean like we've been hearing about is ryan day going to be fired for the last week and a half

[01:39:15] and we still got another 10 days or so before this game happens so so so from that standpoint my i i went

[01:39:24] into like analysis mode and i was like what what ohio state do we even get like you know you're at home

[01:39:32] it's awesome but you were at home when michigan came through too you know so so do you think mr logical

[01:39:40] do you think that it's a good thing for ohio state to have this time to kind of regroup or do you think if

[01:39:51] you're ohio state you rather just play right away yeah i think it's time it's a good like i said after

[01:39:57] they lost at least they don't have to risk a third loss in the big 10 championship and risk not making

[01:40:06] the college football playoff i don't know how much of that i think they would have still made it though

[01:40:11] because if you look at it like all these penn state lost the conference title game smu lost the conference

[01:40:16] title game yeah but that would have been you you would have gotten out muscled and then come right

[01:40:23] back especially if you like you play oregon tough effort before you lost by a point if they don't do the

[01:40:30] sneaky stuff with the penalties it's still in the time of the clock you have an opportunity to kick field

[01:40:35] goal but say you come back out and now oregon beats you 34 to 13. the committee has to take that

[01:40:42] into consideration like yo maybe this team isn't in line to participate in the championship run and

[01:40:50] maybe it was going to get in with three bring bring you know army into it or something i don't know

[01:40:56] if that was the case but a lot of other things would have to play out but like i said at least they

[01:40:59] don't have to risk that third loss because now you're sitting at two losses one was the number

[01:41:06] one team in the country the other one was to your rival you beat indiana and penn state in conference

[01:41:13] who were both undefeated you gave them their only loss so you can rest your hat on that you can rest

[01:41:19] your hat on actually being physically rested who gave now going in and play and playing tennessee

[01:41:24] who gave purdue their schedule they had to play notre dame penn state oregon and ohio state

[01:41:36] they just they knew purdue wasn't gonna produce so they just like just go ahead just play football

[01:41:41] games so we can put so we can get three teams into the cosplay playoff you guys have got to just be

[01:41:49] you know sacrificial lambs but like if i'm o'ohio state i feel confidence is confidence against tennessee

[01:41:55] if you just go back to what you do best you have threats passing the ball get them in position of where

[01:42:02] they are making plays downfield yeah that's it don't try to like don't try to be somebody else

[01:42:13] so resident day wilding out now but uh army and i think army probably had a real argument

[01:42:19] could have been in hey purdue was one in 11 though

[01:42:24] but um you know now this one will really get uh mike going you know if he wasn't going already so you

[01:42:32] mean to tell me that the school with one of the biggest cheating scandals in ncaa history

[01:42:41] is trying to hire the biggest cheater in nfl history what is going on in chapel hill i don't

[01:42:51] understand it at all i'm gonna rely on your expertise to because i don't understand why i got nothing

[01:42:59] i mean i know bill was bill's been out in these streets chasing these these young women maybe he

[01:43:06] just wanted to be in the environment with a lot of young co-eds i think his girlfriend's like 26 or

[01:43:12] something like that um

[01:43:16] maybe tough schedule should be enough i don't i don't know why you would go to north carolina and you

[01:43:21] said something earlier i thought you had read it i don't know because i look i kind of perused with the

[01:43:25] article you said that they you think that he goes there so that they keep his son on his head

[01:43:32] that's what he put in his negotiation that i didn't make that up um okay so so part of north carolina

[01:43:40] talking to him or i or i guess let me rephrase part of him considering to take the job at north

[01:43:47] carolina is that they name his son the head coach in waiting so that's all bill belichick that you

[01:43:54] know like if i'm north carolina i'm not signing up for that you know his his son is the defensive

[01:43:59] coordinator out at washington right now under jared fish you know came you know down from the patriots

[01:44:05] and everything but um they should just hire the son of his head coach hire bill as an advisor to help

[01:44:11] him like at least that way when i fire him i can get rid of both y'all like why would i agree like

[01:44:17] why would i put myself i'm the school i have the money i'm north carolina even though i'm not a big

[01:44:22] football program i'm fucking north carolina well i was trying to think like why am i going to play

[01:44:26] hate to a guy who hasn't coached college football and was fired from his last nfl job and rumor has it

[01:44:32] the dude calling games for fox was the reason that you're winning games like why am i going to

[01:44:36] leverage my future for you well that's why i was wondering why would i do that from unc well that's

[01:44:44] why i was wondering from the standpoint of i don't know what kind of cachet bill belichick would have

[01:44:52] with college with high schoolers or in high in college football players because yes he he's a six

[01:44:57] time super bowl champion as a head coach he's got two as a defensive coordinator but at the same time

[01:45:03] um a lot of these kids don't know the patriots in that way you know they remember tom brady winning

[01:45:11] the super bowl with tampa so i so so the moment that he tries to yell at them or go hard on them

[01:45:17] pause you know in that eric b enemy kind of way i just see kids transferring off the bat like you hear

[01:45:25] some of the julian edelman stories some uh you know where those fucking red gloves gonna give me all

[01:45:31] his holding penalties i don't know if a kid is like i listen i wasn't around like i wasn't born

[01:45:39] when you won your first few super bowls can he dumb down his defense enough for college players

[01:45:45] or is this one of those jimbo fisher trying to play this antiquated offense from the 80s that nobody

[01:45:52] wants to run i think he can because he his defense didn't look like a lot of other nfl teams like he

[01:46:04] was playing with big linebackers he was swapped he had third down linebackers um like i said if you just

[01:46:12] want your son to get the job then help negotiate for him and then do the bill callahan and the uh

[01:46:23] the mike shanahan thing where you just sit in sit in the booth advise you get a special title they pay

[01:46:32] you i mean you know three hundred thousand dollars a year whatever to just be an advisor whatever

[01:46:37] whatever that the going rate is for that position but i'm not signing up for bill belichick to try

[01:46:42] and negotiate he has to get guys their junior year in high school 16 17 year olds are gonna sit across

[01:46:51] some bill belichick and maybe if you really know football or if your parents are really in the

[01:46:56] football and they just kind of respect the fact that he is an all-time great head coach

[01:47:02] and lock you in but his name doesn't resonate through the college dorms like nick saban nick

[01:47:10] saban can go back to college right now nick saban could probably go to unc and make a shake because i

[01:47:16] think he has he has those avenues he knows how to gain access to these guys so like i said you got a

[01:47:23] lot of guys you get them on the radar junior year and you try to get them to commit before they go

[01:47:29] into their senior year before they have like that explosive year because they're like a year bigger

[01:47:33] they're probably you know better players you lock them in and then they go have this outstanding senior

[01:47:39] year and then they come to your school nick is great mike don't start

[01:47:46] nick is great uh bill belichick

[01:47:50] is a damn good coach um i don't know if he's great in the way that nick saban is

[01:47:57] you know because once tom brady did leave i have to acknowledge what happened there i have

[01:48:02] to acknowledge what happened pre-time ever mike sorry my bad like listen as a retiree

[01:48:09] i can tell you at some point it's like yeah i'm done here i'm done dealing with

[01:48:15] i especially when you were doing it as long as nick saban he was like i could see the writing on the wall

[01:48:21] you don't want to have just i don't want to deal with transfers out like a guy who gets divorced a

[01:48:31] guy goes out there he gets divorced a woman they get divorced and then they meet somebody else and

[01:48:35] they start a new relationship and people are like hey you getting married again they're like no i'm not

[01:48:38] like why not like listen i did it i understand it this is what i want to do now so running around

[01:48:44] i'm saying bitch box i want to i want to talk football i don't want to talk nil deals with a

[01:48:50] guy who hasn't caught a single pass for the school that i've coached to multiple championships like

[01:48:56] imagine that comp like that power dynamic for a guy who's had clean autonomy for his his career and

[01:49:03] that's what i'm talking about with bill bill was the gm he was making the draft picks he was cutting guys

[01:49:07] i think he was negotiating contracts he's not gonna like if i'm if i'm a kid that's like i think

[01:49:14] anthony hardway i heard him in an interview he's talking about guys he was like it's hard to coach with

[01:49:19] the nil stuff now granted coaches you just got to figure out how to make it work it can work you just

[01:49:24] got to get out of your way to make it work but he said i got guys on my team that like you know you

[01:49:29] hear about guys that figure you know what i'm gonna stay in college one more year get another two and

[01:49:35] a half three million or i'm gonna do great at memphis or whatever school and i'm gonna transfer to

[01:49:40] another school they're gonna break me off another four or five million because if i get to the league

[01:49:45] i might be a 13th guy on the bench yeah you really think bill deletectis gonna be here for that i mean

[01:49:50] he the same age as saban the same age as matt brown yeah so it's like it just and as far as unc is like

[01:49:56] why are you out here recruiting someone who's probably if you're the if you're the ad

[01:50:08] you're 40 40 45 you're athletic director you're somewhere in that age range bill belichick is

[01:50:15] probably older than your pops i'm 43 my dad's 68 67 going on 68 so it's like if i'm hiring someone

[01:50:28] if i'm working if i'm working at temple or ruckers and i'm like looking for a head coach why would i

[01:50:33] hire a guy older than my pops much i know about pops like chill you don't want to be stressed out dealing

[01:50:38] with teenagers and he's 67 you got a teenage grandson i don't think he'd want to deal with him

[01:50:45] and his recruiting let alone trying to recruit 30 of them like this doesn't make any sense traveling

[01:50:52] the games having conversations and text messages like he's a seven something year old man that

[01:50:57] this is not his world so so mike hire a son just flat out hire his son don't don't do all the all

[01:51:03] the other showcases like yeah we think you have coaching pedigree we know you have a great advisor

[01:51:09] we want to hire you so mike i don't know like like so for the nick saving thing i guess it's sort of like

[01:51:17] the ashton gentty thing you know where he's playing at boise state playing in the mountain west

[01:51:22] and he's running for all these yards people are criticizing saying that he's playing a week

[01:51:26] schedule so on so forth but then you can retort with that and say who else doing it who else did

[01:51:32] it in the mountain west who what other mountain west running back did what ashton gentty is doing right

[01:51:37] now so the same thing with nick saving you know yes he was at bama he was at the football factory

[01:51:43] bama sells itself but so does ohio state what ryan day doing right now you know what i mean i think

[01:51:49] ryan day is a good coach it's a football factory because the head coaches come in there and they

[01:51:55] build these guys into football players because auburn's in the same recruiting space uh georgia's

[01:52:00] in the same recruiting space georgia texas the same recruiting spaces it's like your program has

[01:52:06] oregon at oregon state i mean hell bobby bowden only won three you know um urban meyer what one three

[01:52:13] you know and nick savings got six seven of those things you know saying you know so i mean like

[01:52:21] yeah like like nick saving people studied his defenses you know it's the same thing with belichick people

[01:52:31] study their defenses the same way that we send people to not necessarily not necessarily like bama's

[01:52:39] players are maybe better like when you talk about like in the trenches and you add those type of things to

[01:52:44] it but ohio state didn't have gert wilson cj stroud you know what i'm saying like a lot of

[01:52:51] they got a marvin harrison jr they got a mecca right now jeremiah smith justin fields you know

[01:53:00] saying robert smith going all the way back in the day chris carter you know what i mean like

[01:53:06] like ohio they've had equal caliber players granted if we went like line for line and staff

[01:53:12] for staff we had like some assistants here doing all the point but they went line flying like bam

[01:53:18] but bam had around where they weren't as high they got saving save is a great coach because everybody's

[01:53:24] not doing what he's doing with this everyone has money every team down south has the same recruiting

[01:53:31] range they all have the same level of popularity like if a kid's trying to play college football he knows

[01:53:37] where lsu is he knows arkansas knows texas knows all these other schools it's just they go to bama

[01:53:43] because bama turns out championship if ohio state players are not better than bama they're the next

[01:53:49] best thing like you know what i mean there ain't that much of a gap between bama's players and ohio

[01:53:56] it's not enough of a gap to be to have like a statement like oh they're better like if the gap

[01:54:02] honestly if we did the the all of the math and everything else they probably have the same amount

[01:54:06] of heisman trophy winners they probably have the same guys who won outland awards and and linebackers

[01:54:14] awards and quarter they probably have the very similar numbers it's not going to be like heisman

[01:54:18] alabama has 50 heisman no granted 50 is like ohio state ohio state has the second most heisman winners

[01:54:27] at seven alabama has four okay so we look at like you know your interior lineman awards your

[01:54:36] belittnikovs your running back awards all these other words i mean we just had a conversation the

[01:54:41] other night chris carter went to ohio state and we were talking about how he's one of the best

[01:54:45] receivers in nfl history like what bama what receiver does bama have that's close to chris carter

[01:54:52] julio jones is probably as close as you're really gonna get

[01:54:55] and he ain't there as great as he is he ain't there you know what i mean and then you know

[01:55:00] running backs yeah bama might got that one you know what i mean they got running backs you know um

[01:55:05] robert smiths eddie george top running backs ezekiel elliott had a great run before you know

[01:55:11] he just couldn't get out of his own way he had a nice little seven years i mean his

[01:55:16] ezekiel elliott yeah but you know what else too but you know what else too but you know what else too

[01:55:21] ohio state also has the only two-time heisman winner you know so it's like

[01:55:29] bama ohio no we're just talking about bama and ohio state but if you're talking about saving

[01:55:34] saving had number one recruiting classes for who knows how long year after year after year

[01:55:39] and the only person that was you know you know so so like from half the battle in college football

[01:55:45] so but from that standpoint bring in the talent he did it every year but from that standpoint ohio

[01:55:52] state was still top five you know so unless you think the difference between the number one recruiting

[01:56:00] class and the number five recruiting class is golfs i don't believe that yeah it's it's a player here

[01:56:08] player there so four started if alabama doesn't get one or two four stars that maybe they commit to auburn

[01:56:15] and ohio state gets a guy that was supposed to go to michigan and he comes to ohio state

[01:56:19] it'll flip from one to five or two to four two to three how many years was saving in miami

[01:56:28] and you got to remember too what the was lsu before saving went there man got like seven to eight

[01:56:36] rings lsu lsu was nothing but the football lsu was nothing but the football uniform version of

[01:56:43] the lakers before nick saban showed up what is lsu done and not many college coaches do well in the

[01:56:52] nfl just like florida florida has a lot of talent you know what i mean myers a great coach did not do

[01:56:58] great at jacksonville but guess what florida you don't say they say they have the arrogance of

[01:57:04] notre dame in the trophy case of wake force you know what i'm saying like but but nick saban he

[01:57:09] was only in the dolphins what a year like a year and a half like yeah like you know what i mean so i

[01:57:15] mean we don't know how that would have played out and he and he acknowledged that maybe got a couple of

[01:57:19] seasons and he and he acknowledged and that's why bill belichick going to north carolina doesn't make

[01:57:25] a lot of sense but we can't deny nick's greatness because even if you don't think he's

[01:57:31] individually a great coach you want to break it down but if you don't think he's no it was a season

[01:57:35] who is yeah is you know like so like who is the gold standard for me hold on if it's not saving let's

[01:57:43] see so they they went the dolphins went nine and seven his first year you know they didn't make the

[01:57:49] playoffs but they went nine and seven they came in to 2006

[01:57:57] and they finished six and ten that year and then he went to bama so he coached two seasons yeah

[01:58:06] but he went nine and seven in one of those years you know um you know but that's not true either you

[01:58:11] know is that urban meyer urban meyer took utah to the sugar bowl and beat bama beat nick saban

[01:58:19] no ken ken ken winningham beat saban oh it was winningham my bad uh but but but but urban meyer got

[01:58:26] that started though yeah he was at he was a champion at bowling green he went to utah got alex smith

[01:58:32] to a number one draft pick and then went to florida beat the vaunted ohio state team and then with

[01:58:38] the ohio state then won a second title at florida because he beat oklahoma yeah and then with less

[01:58:45] talent because of the the probation he still went like he still was undefeated in ohio state he won

[01:58:52] the national title with a third string quarterback who then got drafted off of it yeah court cardale

[01:58:59] jones you know what i mean like um he lost they lost jt barrett in preseason that year or braxton miller

[01:59:06] uh jt barrett came in got injured in the michigan game and then cardale jones beat wisconsin 59 to

[01:59:14] nothing and then beat bama in his next game beat chip kelly in the third game like these guys are

[01:59:23] good coaches there's only a ham like that's i think the problem is we can't have access to too much

[01:59:28] information and the great guys are always kind of just putting our face pause and we just we want

[01:59:34] to break it down but you got to understand if you're not going to understand what if you're not

[01:59:40] understand if like a better word if we're not going to use the success of guys that we see clearly

[01:59:46] belichick saban phil jackson uh popovich popovich pat riley pat riley these guys you know even spoke to

[01:59:58] yeah chip kelly you had to see like if you see it it's like okay if you don't think they're great

[02:00:04] then you got to tell me who is and then you got to let me know what metric are you using to say that

[02:00:10] this person is is not great and these people are well for the most part they the great guys are great

[02:00:16] at what they do i think like i said we're just kind of just flooded with greatness and we don't

[02:00:19] i don't think we respect greatness the way we should hence why i don't understand why bill belichick

[02:00:25] is like gonna take his legacy down the unc he's like oh you're a great nfl coach contrary to all the

[02:00:32] stuff about tom brady and everything else because tom brady had a good couple of years in tampa bay

[02:00:37] but he also went eight and nine he was yelling at people all the time it just was he is a he is an

[02:00:45] all-time talent and he's head and shoulders above most quarterbacks have ever played the game he is going

[02:00:51] to shine no matter where he goes but that doesn't mean bill belichick's defense didn't allow for that

[02:00:58] didn't allow for those opportunities because like i said we talked about that ram super bowl

[02:01:02] i agree that game super tight to the vest i agree jim harbaugh is a great coach

[02:01:08] he's won everywhere that he's gone but he doesn't have the resume of saving right

[02:01:15] like great but he can we're not saying because and he read great too is we are not saying that it's

[02:01:23] limited to but it is there is a guy to top there's guys yeah but you know what and i'm not i'm not even

[02:01:29] trying to do the patrick mahomes thing but before patrick mahomes showed up andy reed was known as the

[02:01:34] biggest choker in coaching these are these are these are narratives that have been yeah he was still a

[02:01:42] great coach in my eyes but a lot of people didn't want to give him that title five consecutive nfc

[02:01:48] title five consecutive nfc championship games in philadelphia made a super bowl nobody cared

[02:01:54] had teo out there in the bronca ankle going nine catches on their 22 yards if donovan

[02:01:58] mcdap throws them like there's there's greatness there's there's greatness there's great there's very

[02:02:07] good good and then you just go down from there you know what i mean like no i know they weren't they

[02:02:13] weren't necessarily losing because of andy but they absolutely were because the biggest criticism

[02:02:18] that he had which he still has a problem with is his clock management like andy reed still to this

[02:02:25] day does not manage the clock correctly yeah you know what i mean and and when you there with nick

[02:02:30] saban he just wins and and and and and with and with and with andy reed to your point though

[02:02:35] you know what i mean when you look at some of those teams that he was playing with i mean he had freddie

[02:02:40] mitchell todd pinkston as his wide receivers you know what i mean so so i mean like yes he's a great

[02:02:46] coach because we saw him do more with less you know nick saban like i said he came to before lsu

[02:02:52] he put michigan state on the map you know like michigan state was just little brother

[02:02:58] you know saying until they beat desmond howard in michigan that year nick saban was the coach that year

[02:03:04] like you know michigan state outside of the 1960s when they won that national title back in 1966

[02:03:11] played notre dame in that tie that's considered to be the greatest game in college football history by

[02:03:16] old people you know outside of that year there was no such thing as michigan state football

[02:03:24] you know what i mean like and i mean saving you know he came there and did that you know what i

[02:03:29] mean so like there are great coaches you know every like um jay wright was a great coach but then nil came

[02:03:36] and he was like i don't want to do this no more yeah which is which is fine like i said i if you

[02:03:42] especially if you have if you've ascended to the to the level where you are in your sport whatever it is

[02:03:48] whatever your craft is it's like you want to own the leverage in most conversations most negotiations

[02:03:56] like i don't think bill belichick is walking to a room with a 37 year old gm somewhere in the nfl

[02:04:02] and pleading his case why he should be the head coach i just don't think that's happening

[02:04:07] it was like you brought me in this is what i plan to do with your team i'm not selling you to me i'm

[02:04:13] telling you why your team needs me and yeah and the longer this goes on he's probably not getting the

[02:04:19] job the longer this goes on well i mean he's 72 now i mean where you want nick saban to go like if you

[02:04:25] you put nick saban at any power four conference team right now you put them on florida state right

[02:04:32] now they're in the they're in the cfp next year i guarantee you if you took the job today they're in

[02:04:38] without a doubt you can book it and and that's the difference you know what i mean whereas

[02:04:45] another great coach might take two years to make a dent you put brian kelly on florida state right now

[02:04:53] seven and five maybe eight four you put chip kelly in florida state right now same thing 75 8 and 4

[02:05:03] maybe the offense looks good you put nick saban there 11 and one

[02:05:09] you know and and as far as bill belichick goes like you know what i mean the problem with bill belichick

[02:05:16] is not it wasn't bill belichick the coach the problem was bill belichick the gm

[02:05:23] because he because because he's such a great coach that he was like go get me chris hogan go get me this

[02:05:30] lineman out of umass that nobody has ever heard of because he thought like i can coach this guy

[02:05:37] and he was right more than he was wrong yeah and he had he had a stance that he lived by and i remember

[02:05:43] he talked about a lot in the interviews he's like don't tell me what a guy can't do tell me what he

[02:05:47] can do so if i got a guy that is a linebacker but he can't cover in space cool i'm not gonna call

[02:05:55] plays where he has to cover travis kelsey up the scene right and you and you always talk about you

[02:06:01] always talk about how he would take his number two corner and put him on the number one wide receiver

[02:06:06] and just double him and and and put and shift guys that way like we talked about

[02:06:11] that ram super bowl was a master class and what bill belichick can do for a football team

[02:06:18] that team was i mean they did cheat 30 no no no not that one oh the one against jared golf

[02:06:24] one against jared the jared golf rams okay okay 13 of three that team was averaging 31 points

[02:06:30] a game that year they scored 54 points against kansas city and they scored three points in the super bowl

[02:06:38] because of the defensive strategy and tom brady played to that tom brady through

[02:06:46] that gate julian had 14 catches that game because it's like okay you can probably force it to gronk

[02:06:52] on this second and ten but he knew the game plan was don't give them any short fields don't put the

[02:07:01] ball in harm's way at all we're at a disadvantage offensively so if you can get edelman hit edelman if

[02:07:09] you guys are working you got like this thing we'll hit gronk when we need to and that's when they got

[02:07:13] the pass of gronk down the sideline but it was like he played into billichek's plan and they won that

[02:07:19] super bowl 13 to 3 what's this shock face so um you know uh the other day uh randy moss was talking

[02:07:33] about the uh why he was wearing the shades and all that kind of stuff and you know so i guess uh

[02:07:39] larry fishgerald just came out and said it's because or he had to step away because he's battling

[02:07:44] liver cancer that was my first time seeing it okay i thought yeah that was my first time seeing it

[02:07:50] that part and i thought you saw like you had an update like no no no that was just the first time

[02:07:55] i had i had saw that and it just yeah like wow that just yeah okay well you know ending on a positive

[02:08:08] note i guess you know trying to end on a positive note here um at the end of the day you know bill

[02:08:15] belichek to north carolina is not official at this moment you know it may not even become official

[02:08:23] you know but it's just one of those things that i guess you're just doing your due diligence

[02:08:29] you know what i mean if you're not trying to get the best or what you perceive to be the best

[02:08:35] you aren't trying the same reason that ucf called and asked about lincoln riley

[02:08:41] you know they knew they weren't getting lincoln riley but you got to do your due diligence

[02:08:46] yeah that makes sense he knows how you recruit yeah and and not only that but when you but like

[02:08:53] like i made the joke when we came back on here after that after we had found out that ucf did that

[02:08:59] i was like hell they should have just called ohio state then and check on ryan day you know because

[02:09:05] like i said i do think that ryan day is a good coach and if you look at his record

[02:09:10] against everybody else but michigan pretty solid he does have an abundance of talent that's on par with

[02:09:21] them and other times i mean like like but see isn't is but see that's that's the thing about narratives

[02:09:26] right that kicker hits that field goal against georgia ryan day probably has a national title

[02:09:35] game advantage yeah they beat tcu they might not beat them 65 to 7 but it's probably 42 to 20

[02:09:45] something but yeah so you know it just is what it is you know um you know we'll see i mean i'm here

[02:09:51] for it i wouldn't mind seeing bill belichick at north carolina because you know i'm all about the

[02:09:56] fuckery so you know so sign me up for all of that but we will be back on friday with picks you know

[02:10:05] nfl week 15 you know uh we'll be back with the college picks next week because the playoff starts

[02:10:12] late next week so we'll be back with that as well but it's like the middle of january i know right

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