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[00:00:29] I'm so happy for you
[00:00:32] You know what I'm saying? Bad news Cleveland
[00:00:35] The Cavs lost their first game tonight
[00:00:40] You know, it is I, 2-5
[00:00:42] Your unorthodox statistician going right or going left so much
[00:00:46] You thought I was southpaw
[00:00:48] Left to the point that Jake Paul wouldn't see what was coming
[00:00:52] And I got with me the one and only
[00:00:55] Born in Texas, raised in VA
[00:00:57] Representing New Jerusalem
[00:00:58] He wants to know
[00:00:59] How come Rutgers has two of the top freshman basketball players this season?
[00:01:06] And they ain't being talked about
[00:01:07] He is Mr. Logic
[00:01:12] Don't bring feelings to a fact fight
[00:01:14] Do us a favor though
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[00:01:22] Do all the free things
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[00:01:29] And of course, we gonna get this started with
[00:01:31] Get it off my chest
[00:01:32] Right about
[00:01:34] Now
[00:01:36] Yeah
[00:01:37] You know how it is
[00:01:39] Another show, another week
[00:01:41] Get off my chest
[00:01:42] Yeah, I got something, something, man
[00:01:45] I'm sick of y'all just
[00:01:46] Just hating in these comments
[00:01:49] It pisses me off
[00:01:51] Like, I sent Mike the video
[00:01:53] A video earlier today
[00:01:55] It just said
[00:01:55] This is what it looks like
[00:01:57] When a 6'3", 200-pound wrestler plays running back
[00:02:02] It's a white kid
[00:02:03] I'm thinking probably somewhere in the Midwest
[00:02:06] Minnesota, North Dakota
[00:02:07] Something like that
[00:02:08] Not a big school
[00:02:09] But he just was running the ball
[00:02:11] Scoring touchdowns
[00:02:13] Making plays
[00:02:14] You know, just a simple highlight clip
[00:02:16] From one of his
[00:02:17] You know, Friday night-like games
[00:02:19] He wasn't a big showboarder
[00:02:21] He scores touchdown
[00:02:22] Get a ball to the referee
[00:02:24] High-five his teammates
[00:02:25] Chest bump
[00:02:26] You know, helmet
[00:02:27] Taps
[00:02:29] Go to the bench
[00:02:31] So I was like
[00:02:31] I gotta go to the comments
[00:02:32] So I go to the comments
[00:02:34] It was a lot of
[00:02:35] Gladys' night showboarding
[00:02:37] Like those monkeys in Colorado
[00:02:39] Shit like that
[00:02:40] Just like
[00:02:41] So obviously you click on that profile
[00:02:43] And you know what kind of pictures
[00:02:45] And you know
[00:02:46] Anti-communism posts
[00:02:48] And stuff like that
[00:02:49] You know what I'm talking about
[00:02:50] Yeah
[00:02:51] So I just like
[00:02:52] I like to find that funny
[00:02:54] Maybe I'm kind of glutton for pain
[00:02:55] But I think it's kind of funny
[00:02:56] Just kind of like
[00:02:57] Look at the comment
[00:02:58] Look at the name
[00:02:59] Look at the little picture
[00:03:00] I'm like
[00:03:00] I know exactly what this profile looks like
[00:03:03] Click on it and be right
[00:03:04] But then it was like
[00:03:07] People posting their own high school photos
[00:03:08] Like I was 6'3", 230
[00:03:10] When I was in high school
[00:03:11] Nothing to do with you
[00:03:13] Oh, he couldn't even
[00:03:14] He was getting tackled by the first person
[00:03:16] Not great balance
[00:03:18] Maybe he can play safety
[00:03:19] Or wide receiver
[00:03:20] I'm like
[00:03:20] What are y'all talking
[00:03:21] It was so many scouts
[00:03:24] Coaches
[00:03:25] GMs
[00:03:26] Team owners
[00:03:27] Professional
[00:03:28] Athlete developers
[00:03:29] So many
[00:03:31] Hall of Fame players
[00:03:32] In these comments
[00:03:33] No, it just was some
[00:03:34] Regular ass dudes
[00:03:35] But what's the screenshots
[00:03:37] Of their high school highlights
[00:03:39] And like other BS
[00:03:40] Was like
[00:03:41] Yo
[00:03:42] Just watch the video
[00:03:44] Give them a thumbs up
[00:03:46] Give them a like
[00:03:47] Don't be out here
[00:03:49] Posting your old pictures
[00:03:50] And then I go to your page
[00:03:52] Like, yeah
[00:03:52] You was 230 in high school
[00:03:54] Now you're 330 at UPS
[00:03:56] Like cut it out
[00:03:57] Like
[00:03:59] Just stop
[00:04:00] What they hate
[00:04:01] It's unnecessary
[00:04:02] It's unnecessary
[00:04:04] For you to participate
[00:04:06] In social media
[00:04:08] By being negative
[00:04:09] And I'm thinking
[00:04:10] Maybe it's a bunch of
[00:04:11] Bot farms
[00:04:12] And they just kind of
[00:04:12] Know my algorithm
[00:04:13] And I like reading
[00:04:14] This
[00:04:14] This obnoxious stuff
[00:04:16] But
[00:04:16] If you're really out here
[00:04:19] Digging in the crates
[00:04:21] Digging for your yearbook
[00:04:23] Digging for your senior book
[00:04:25] To find those pictures
[00:04:26] Where
[00:04:27] You were on the sideline
[00:04:29] Wearing 43
[00:04:30] With the neck roll
[00:04:31] Shoulder pass
[00:04:32] So if I was a fullback
[00:04:33] Of 63260
[00:04:35] Back in my day
[00:04:35] Won two state championships
[00:04:37] Cut it out
[00:04:38] Just stop it
[00:04:39] It's the internet
[00:04:40] Cut it out
[00:04:41] I think wifi
[00:04:43] Should be applied for
[00:04:44] Like a loan
[00:04:45] Or like a driver's license
[00:04:47] Or like a
[00:04:49] Or like a
[00:04:49] A tax ID
[00:04:51] You should have to like
[00:04:52] Prove why
[00:04:53] The government
[00:04:54] Should allow you access
[00:04:55] To this
[00:04:57] Dangerous
[00:04:57] Platform
[00:05:00] Some of these people
[00:05:01] Just not built
[00:05:03] Intellectually
[00:05:04] Emotionally
[00:05:05] To utilize it properly
[00:05:08] Al Bundy
[00:05:09] Four touchdowns
[00:05:10] In one game
[00:05:11] Oh my god
[00:05:12] It was a nonsense
[00:05:14] It was pissing me off
[00:05:15] So bad
[00:05:16] Polk high
[00:05:20] You know what I'm saying
[00:05:21] What up Mike
[00:05:22] The One Mike Podcast
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[00:05:25] Get your gems
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[00:05:27] On black news
[00:05:28] You know what I'm saying
[00:05:30] But uh
[00:05:30] Get it off my chest
[00:05:31] So
[00:05:32] My get it off my chest
[00:05:34] Message is simple
[00:05:36] Play your games
[00:05:39] So
[00:05:39] I'm tired of listening
[00:05:41] To NBA
[00:05:42] Personnel
[00:05:43] Whether
[00:05:44] It's
[00:05:45] Former players
[00:05:46] Whether it's
[00:05:47] People on TV
[00:05:48] Talking about
[00:05:50] Oh my god
[00:05:52] This 65 game rule
[00:05:53] There's gonna be a bunch
[00:05:54] Of bums
[00:05:55] That are gonna get
[00:05:55] Max contracts
[00:05:56] There's gonna be
[00:05:57] A bunch of bums
[00:05:58] On the first team
[00:06:00] All NBA
[00:06:00] And so on and so forth
[00:06:02] Right
[00:06:02] Now check me out
[00:06:03] Indulge me for a second
[00:06:05] Now
[00:06:06] Just taking it back
[00:06:07] To last year
[00:06:08] Because we only got
[00:06:08] A one year sample size
[00:06:10] You know what I'm saying
[00:06:11] So I'm gonna throw that
[00:06:12] Out there
[00:06:12] I'm not trying to be slick
[00:06:13] We just only got
[00:06:14] One year of evidence
[00:06:16] So looking at the first team
[00:06:17] From last year
[00:06:20] Giannis
[00:06:22] Luka
[00:06:23] SGA
[00:06:24] Jokic
[00:06:25] Jason Tatum
[00:06:27] That don't sound
[00:06:28] Crazy to me
[00:06:29] Then you look at
[00:06:30] The second team
[00:06:31] Right
[00:06:31] Jalen Brunson
[00:06:32] Anthony Davis
[00:06:33] KD
[00:06:34] Anthony Edwards
[00:06:35] Kawhi
[00:06:36] Ooh
[00:06:37] What bums they are
[00:06:39] Right
[00:06:39] Then you got
[00:06:40] The third team
[00:06:41] Devin Booker
[00:06:43] Wardell
[00:06:44] Stephen Curry
[00:06:45] Tyrese Halliburton
[00:06:47] LeBron
[00:06:48] Raymond James
[00:06:49] And DeMontez
[00:06:51] Sabonis
[00:06:52] That don't sound
[00:06:54] Crazy to me
[00:06:55] Now
[00:06:56] If we get to a point
[00:06:58] Where you're sitting
[00:07:00] Up here going
[00:07:01] Oh my goodness
[00:07:03] We just paid
[00:07:03] Larry Nance
[00:07:04] Junior
[00:07:06] Thirty nine million
[00:07:07] Dollars a year
[00:07:08] And he made
[00:07:08] Second team
[00:07:09] All NBA
[00:07:09] Now we can have
[00:07:11] A conversation
[00:07:12] If Al Horford
[00:07:13] Is out here
[00:07:14] Making an
[00:07:14] All NBA team
[00:07:15] We can have
[00:07:16] A conversation
[00:07:17] But why did this
[00:07:18] Come to be in the
[00:07:19] First place
[00:07:20] It was because
[00:07:20] The players
[00:07:21] Weren't playing
[00:07:22] But the teams
[00:07:23] Are hustling
[00:07:24] Backwards
[00:07:24] Because
[00:07:26] Usually
[00:07:26] A lot of times
[00:07:27] We learn
[00:07:28] It was the team's
[00:07:29] Decision
[00:07:30] Why some of
[00:07:30] These guys
[00:07:31] Didn't play
[00:07:31] And last time
[00:07:33] I checked
[00:07:33] Adam Silver
[00:07:34] Works for
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[00:07:37] So as a wise
[00:07:38] Man once said
[00:07:40] Don't piss in my
[00:07:41] Pocket and tell me
[00:07:42] It's raining
[00:07:42] That was me
[00:07:43] You know what I'm
[00:07:45] Saying
[00:07:45] So I'm good
[00:07:46] With the 65
[00:07:47] Game rule
[00:07:47] Because
[00:07:48] People like
[00:07:49] Joel Embiid
[00:07:52] Who
[00:07:52] Plays in the
[00:07:53] Olympics
[00:07:54] And decides
[00:07:54] I'm not
[00:07:55] Going to
[00:07:56] Show up
[00:07:56] For my
[00:07:56] Actual
[00:07:57] Day job
[00:07:59] Do not
[00:08:00] Deserve
[00:08:00] To be
[00:08:01] MVPs
[00:08:02] Do not
[00:08:02] Deserve
[00:08:03] To be
[00:08:03] First team
[00:08:04] All
[00:08:04] NBAs
[00:08:05] You want
[00:08:06] To get
[00:08:06] Paid
[00:08:06] But you
[00:08:07] Don't
[00:08:07] Want to
[00:08:07] Provide
[00:08:07] The labor
[00:08:09] So
[00:08:10] Until
[00:08:12] You see
[00:08:13] Somebody
[00:08:13] That does
[00:08:14] Not deserve
[00:08:14] An award
[00:08:15] Shut up
[00:08:18] I agree
[00:08:22] With that
[00:08:22] I think
[00:08:23] The 65
[00:08:23] Game rule
[00:08:24] Is just
[00:08:25] All part
[00:08:25] Of
[00:08:27] The
[00:08:27] All the
[00:08:28] Money that
[00:08:28] The NBA
[00:08:29] Is producing
[00:08:30] Because
[00:08:31] Living on
[00:08:32] The east
[00:08:32] Coast
[00:08:33] LeBron
[00:08:33] And the
[00:08:33] Lakers
[00:08:34] Coming here
[00:08:34] Madison
[00:08:35] Square Garden
[00:08:36] If I'm
[00:08:36] Want to get
[00:08:36] A ticket
[00:08:36] To that
[00:08:37] It's probably
[00:08:37] 700
[00:08:39] If I want
[00:08:40] To get
[00:08:40] A good
[00:08:40] Ticket
[00:08:41] If I
[00:08:41] Want to
[00:08:41] Get a
[00:08:41] Ticket
[00:08:42] Where I
[00:08:42] Can
[00:08:42] Kind of
[00:08:42] See
[00:08:43] You know
[00:08:44] I can
[00:08:44] See
[00:08:44] The
[00:08:45] I can
[00:08:45] Read
[00:08:46] The jerseys
[00:08:47] Clearly
[00:08:47] Yeah
[00:08:48] Sitting
[00:08:48] With the
[00:08:49] Movers
[00:08:49] And shakers
[00:08:50] I'm
[00:08:50] Going to
[00:08:50] Need
[00:08:51] Seven
[00:08:52] Even
[00:08:52] Now
[00:08:52] With
[00:08:53] This
[00:08:53] Year
[00:08:53] I'm
[00:08:54] Going to
[00:08:54] Need
[00:08:54] Like
[00:09:27] Ticket
[00:09:28] Right
[00:09:28] About
[00:09:28] It
[00:09:29] So
[00:09:29] Like
[00:09:29] The top
[00:09:30] 100
[00:09:30] I think
[00:09:31] Malcolm
[00:09:31] Brogdon
[00:09:32] Is getting
[00:09:32] Like
[00:09:32] 22
[00:09:32] Million
[00:09:33] Dollars
[00:09:34] And he's
[00:09:35] He's tied
[00:09:36] For 97th
[00:09:37] You know
[00:09:38] And
[00:09:38] Like
[00:09:40] Guys are
[00:09:41] Getting
[00:09:41] Paid
[00:09:41] So
[00:09:42] I think
[00:09:42] The awards
[00:09:43] Are going
[00:09:43] To go
[00:09:43] To the
[00:09:44] Heavy
[00:09:44] Hitters
[00:09:45] I think
[00:09:45] The 65
[00:09:46] Game
[00:09:47] Rule
[00:09:47] Teams
[00:09:48] Will figure
[00:09:48] Out ways
[00:09:49] To where
[00:09:49] They get
[00:09:50] Their guy
[00:09:50] To the
[00:09:50] 65
[00:09:51] Games
[00:09:53] You know
[00:09:54] If you
[00:09:54] Have a
[00:09:54] Young
[00:09:54] Guy
[00:09:54] Anthony
[00:09:55] Edwards
[00:09:55] Already
[00:09:55] Talked
[00:09:55] About
[00:09:56] He's
[00:09:56] Not
[00:09:56] Sitting
[00:09:56] Out
[00:09:57] But
[00:09:57] If
[00:09:58] You
[00:10:11] You
[00:10:12] Know
[00:10:12] Because
[00:10:12] Remember
[00:10:12] Coming
[00:10:13] Out
[00:10:13] Of
[00:10:13] The
[00:10:13] Play
[00:10:13] In
[00:10:14] Tournament
[00:10:14] Last
[00:10:14] Year
[00:10:15] Tyrese
[00:10:16] Halliburton
[00:10:16] Was
[00:10:17] The
[00:10:17] New
[00:10:17] Kid
[00:10:17] On
[00:10:17] The
[00:10:17] Block
[00:10:18] That
[00:10:18] Was
[00:10:18] Going
[00:10:19] To
[00:10:19] Take
[00:10:19] The
[00:10:19] League
[00:10:19] By
[00:10:20] Storm
[00:10:20] You
[00:10:21] Know
[00:10:21] He
[00:10:21] Got
[00:10:21] Hurt
[00:10:22] But
[00:10:23] He
[00:10:23] Was
[00:10:23] In
[00:10:24] That
[00:10:24] Window
[00:10:24] Of
[00:10:25] If
[00:10:25] You
[00:10:25] Don't
[00:10:25] Play
[00:10:25] These
[00:10:26] 65
[00:10:26] Games
[00:10:27] You
[00:10:28] Can't
[00:10:28] Get
[00:10:28] Your
[00:10:28] Max
[00:10:30] So
[00:10:30] We
[00:10:30] Talked
[00:10:31] About
[00:10:31] It
[00:10:31] In
[00:10:31] Real
[00:10:31] Time
[00:10:31] He
[00:10:32] Still
[00:10:32] Play
[00:10:33] In
[00:10:33] The
[00:10:33] Olympics
[00:10:33] No
[00:10:34] I
[00:10:42] Just
[00:10:42] So
[00:10:43] He
[00:10:43] Can
[00:10:43] Ensure
[00:10:43] That
[00:10:44] He
[00:10:44] Played
[00:10:44] 65
[00:10:44] Games
[00:10:45] Yeah
[00:10:46] But
[00:10:46] That
[00:10:46] Max
[00:10:46] Contract
[00:10:47] He
[00:10:47] Got
[00:10:47] Hurt
[00:10:48] Again
[00:10:48] In
[00:10:48] The
[00:10:48] Playoffs
[00:10:48] Too
[00:10:49] But
[00:10:49] You
[00:10:49] Know
[00:10:49] So
[00:10:50] I
[00:10:50] Look
[00:10:50] That
[00:10:51] Real
[00:10:51] Quick
[00:10:52] But
[00:10:53] That
[00:10:53] Was
[00:10:54] The
[00:10:54] Thing
[00:10:54] I
[00:10:55] I'll
[00:10:56] I'll
[00:10:57] Play
[00:10:57] On
[00:10:57] A
[00:10:57] Tight
[00:10:58] Hamstring
[00:10:59] Yeah
[00:10:59] But
[00:11:11] There
[00:11:12] You
[00:11:12] Know
[00:11:13] I
[00:11:13] Play
[00:11:13] Steve
[00:11:14] Kerr
[00:11:14] Was
[00:11:14] Like
[00:11:15] You
[00:11:15] Good
[00:11:15] Sitting
[00:11:15] Over
[00:11:16] Here
[00:11:16] Again
[00:11:16] I'm
[00:11:16] Just
[00:11:16] Here
[00:11:17] For
[00:11:17] The
[00:11:17] French
[00:11:17] Girls
[00:11:19] I
[00:11:19] Brought
[00:11:20] My
[00:11:20] Girls
[00:11:21] We
[00:11:21] Just
[00:11:22] Riding
[00:11:22] Around
[00:11:22] And
[00:11:22] These
[00:11:23] Minivans
[00:11:23] With
[00:11:23] Eight
[00:11:24] Blonde
[00:11:24] White
[00:11:24] Girls
[00:11:25] I'm
[00:11:25] Good
[00:11:25] I'm
[00:11:25] Chilling
[00:11:26] That's
[00:11:26] The
[00:11:26] Thing
[00:11:27] Though
[00:11:27] You
[00:11:28] Know
[00:11:28] If
[00:11:29] If
[00:11:30] If
[00:11:30] He
[00:11:30] Wasn't
[00:11:30] In
[00:11:30] That
[00:11:31] Window
[00:11:31] He
[00:11:32] Sits
[00:11:33] Out
[00:11:33] Gets
[00:11:33] The
[00:11:33] Proper
[00:11:34] amount of recovery and then he comes back and who knows what happens from there i mean they did make
[00:11:40] the eastern conference finals anyway you know saying which he got hurt in that series but i'm
[00:11:44] just saying like you don't know how the season would have went but anyway that's enough of the excuses
[00:11:50] you know but let's get to it so mr logical true or false the pittsburgh steelers are a super bowl
[00:11:57] contender no because i'm like i'm trying to think super bowl contender 14 team playoff
[00:12:19] so they're probably only who knows they could end up with the bye but the likelihood of them getting
[00:12:26] the bye is tough so that puts them right now believe they're somewhere near buffalo probably
[00:12:32] they're probably third kansas city buffalo pittsburgh so i get some three that means
[00:12:41] they would play so two would play seven so right now so right now play seven three three play six
[00:12:49] six is probably like the chargers so so right now as we sit here right now real quick chiefs are the
[00:12:55] one c9 and one bills are the two c9 and two pittsburgh's eight and two they're the three
[00:13:00] houston is the four as the south representative the chargers are five so we would get texas chargers
[00:13:06] we would get steelers ravens because the ravens are the number six right now and then you would get
[00:13:11] denver at buffalo okay so you get steelers ravens and that would be the third time that would if
[00:13:18] they're to meet in the playoffs they don't recede they recede in the nfl yes so if there's an upset
[00:13:28] maybe they get lucky uh i just don't see a consistent enough offense that's because some
[00:13:38] defense is going to get torched a guy's gonna run a guy's gonna run a great route he's gonna get a
[00:13:43] pass interference you're gonna get you know a guy peek into the backfield when he should have been you
[00:13:48] know the all offenses are gonna score points especially like i said we looked at the chargers
[00:13:54] buffalo's a team that's gonna score points kansas city if you if you slack uh worthy is gonna run
[00:14:01] right by you so the fact that i don't know if rust down 10 can just come out there early second quarter
[00:14:09] and just boom boom boom boom boom down the field because they need this touchdown on this drive
[00:14:13] i think that's gonna be their uh that's gonna be their weak link you know so for me um
[00:14:19] um i agree no but you know i look at the landscape right and it all depends on matchups and everything
[00:14:29] right you know what i mean yeah the steelers didn't even score a touchdown last week against baltimore
[00:14:34] 18 to 16 win you know but this is this is my thing and i know this is gonna sound stupid because this team
[00:14:42] is nowhere near the playoffs but let me see them match up with cincinnati you know what i mean let me let me
[00:14:48] see how they defend cincinnati they haven't played them yet they still have to play them twice and the
[00:14:55] reason that i say that is because i don't know if the steelers to your point can go tit for tat if you
[00:15:04] will you know like obviously they scored 28 against washington two weeks ago you know but we always
[00:15:10] well at least i always talk about how bad and awful washington secondary is in the first place
[00:15:16] yeah and they had 21 into that last heave right yeah they didn't go into the fourth quarter with
[00:15:22] 28 points right right it was the touchdown with less than a minute left to mike williams so so so
[00:15:28] when you look at that point they probably had like eight or nine possessions and 21 points so so so for me
[00:15:34] i put pittsburgh in the category of the dolphins i think they need home field advantage
[00:15:41] if they're gonna get through you know the thing is they they often end up with a couple of afc north
[00:15:50] teams who play outdoors anyway so unless the yellow seats well that's not what i mean that's not what i
[00:15:58] mean i'm just the comfort of just being at home so like for example you know what i mean like
[00:16:04] they went up to orchard park last year for the playoff game you know now granted they were starting
[00:16:09] mason rudolph mason rudolph and like i said they were they were a bad pass interference call
[00:16:15] away from getting the ball back and and and time being able to tie it yeah and then then you know
[00:16:22] what i mean if you got to go to baltimore you know which right now they have the leg up their two games
[00:16:27] up in the win i mean in the loss column and they have the head-to-head so but if they had to go to
[00:16:34] baltimore do i trust them to walk into that game and walk out i say yes just because mike tomlin is
[00:16:42] such a great coach and that's bad news right and that's me giving him the benefit of the doubt independent
[00:16:50] of the team yeah you know what i mean like what i'm thinking about like and you might relate to this too
[00:16:55] that super bowl when the rams played the patriots and the rams had averaged like 30 31 points a game
[00:17:03] that year and patriots held them to three it just felt like offensively new england was like if we don't
[00:17:13] have the route open we're gonna play conservative and just punt it we're gonna play tough defense and feel
[00:17:23] like if we can hold them under their scoring standard we can get them to panic early we could get them to
[00:17:30] throw the ball on three straight downs because they haven't scored on their first four possessions and
[00:17:37] maybe we can get a three and out and get the ball back and move it slow because i don't think time
[00:17:42] ready through any kind of pass that could potentially even be tipped or intercepted and give
[00:17:49] the rams any kind of momentum that's why i think julian edelman had 14 catches in that game because
[00:17:56] and that's where he probably had 14 catches like 114 yards but in time brady had like 170 or 80 yards
[00:18:01] passing that game it was something low to get the like a 30-yard bomb to gronk but i feel like i think
[00:18:07] pittsburgh would play that same kind of style russ don't put it in harm give it to nagy give it to warren if
[00:18:14] we if we have the one-on-one on the outside take that shot on third down but we don't have to convert
[00:18:20] this third and ten if we got the shot on the outside and it's one-on-one take it if not punt it deep
[00:18:26] we'll punt it the buffalo we'll punt it to cincinnati we'll make these teams that score a lot of points
[00:18:32] stand up there and put the ball in harm's way because that's kind of the problem right is that russ will put
[00:18:38] the ball in harm's way but i think as as they get you know because i mean you have to think about last
[00:18:43] week they had six field goals how many of those times could they probably go on for it on fourth
[00:18:48] down instead of kicking field goal true i mean you know but like points this way and we'll just hope
[00:18:54] that our defense holds up and i'm also going to factor in the cold weather into his throwing
[00:18:59] you know not that he can't not that he can't do it per se but just that ball that moon ball if you will
[00:19:05] it's going to come out a little different when it's 13 degrees yeah that western that western
[00:19:10] pennsylvania win is a lot like the the buffalo lake effect yeah yeah but like i said if mike tomlin
[00:19:18] is good with a 52 yard field goal attempt any any day of the week he'll take points so so this is
[00:19:25] this is the problem right so when you ask or when i ask i guess because i asked the question you know
[00:19:31] what i mean if pittsburgh is a super bowl contender i have to look at their peers right so this is not
[00:19:39] kansas city that we're looking at right now you know what i mean like when i look at buffalo they look
[00:19:45] great right now they still lost a lot you know what i mean that may you know show itself down the road
[00:19:51] you know on defense you know i look at baltimore you know lamar jackson is probably the mvp right now
[00:20:00] but they got four losses you know what i mean so they're not exactly a couple of bad losses too well
[00:20:06] they lost to the raiders you know what i mean like i mean granted the granite right you know what i
[00:20:11] mean they lost to kansas city opening night at arrowhead they lost at pittsburgh the other day i can't fault them for that
[00:20:17] but they lost at cleveland you know what i mean james's first game you know starting and they lost
[00:20:24] to the raiders at home so i mean you know so it's not like this is baltimore of ray lewis elk or
[00:20:32] something along those lines and we saw the ball to derrick henry 25 times yeah and by the way you know
[00:20:37] to mike's point he's been talking about it for the last three weeks there's a whole lot of time that
[00:20:43] derrick henry's not in the game that he should be in the game yo i am not a defensive coordinator
[00:20:48] i've never been one i've never coached a single football team even my squadron flag football he just
[00:20:53] said it too if you go if you see a formation and derrick henry's not in there it's a screen pass
[00:21:05] you can i don't i don't know what the math is but if we turned on if you turn on a ravens game this
[00:21:13] weekend and it's second and eight and henry gets the ball and it's third and four after that four
[00:21:19] yard run and he comes off the field you know what the next play is and if they convert and he doesn't
[00:21:25] come back on you know they're running they're throwing it again it's like my god todd mumpkin
[00:21:32] it's like najee harris and jaylen warren going back to the steelers have a substantial size
[00:21:38] difference but he still runs it in between the tackles right he was not running in between the
[00:21:44] tackles he's not running the same counter play that derrick henry's running at all like they don't even
[00:21:49] call it because it's like why would we call it with you back here when i got 700 pounds in 22 jersey
[00:21:57] over there that could just run like no i'm not giving you know just block for lamar we're gonna run his
[00:22:02] quarterback keeper or slip by here we're gonna throw you the screen now you know i am not to change the
[00:22:08] subject but i am interested in baltimore this week where they got the chargers on monday night football
[00:22:17] the brother bowl the harbaugh brother bowl so you know i want to see how baltimore reacts you know
[00:22:24] saying like you can tell a lot about a team like buffalo for example you know that win that they
[00:22:29] got the other day not that buffalo needs it per se in this in the context that i'm about to say
[00:22:36] but that's the type of win that could springboard you you know what i mean like because they've beaten
[00:22:41] kansas city in a regular season and can't no i know i know but but so they know there's a different
[00:22:47] high of we beat them and they were undefeated you know i'm saying i don't think they care about that
[00:22:52] at all and real and josh allen ran that last touchdown for mercury morse by the way you know
[00:22:58] what i'm saying yeah but they beat them they beat them in the regular season and it still looms over
[00:23:05] your head right no no no we do this so i don't that's why i'm talking about the season though not
[00:23:11] the playoffs i'm just like yeah this is a week 11 game because he knows if we see these guys get in
[00:23:17] the playoff somebody on my team is gonna uncharacteristically shit the bed well i still
[00:23:24] think somebody dependable is gonna shit the bed uh it's gonna be a bad face mask like von miller
[00:23:30] a you know generation i still think buffalo gotta get them there like like they had them there last
[00:23:37] year no i know i know i know and they they missed that field goal yeah that's what i mean every single
[00:23:42] time there's somebody that historically fucks up like yo how did you miss this field goal or how
[00:23:48] they play so poorly in the red zone to force them to have to kick the field goal same routine second
[00:23:53] game like how did you give up a pass to kelsey no a pass to tyreek hill in the past to kelsey back
[00:24:00] to back plays with 13 i'm leaving everybody these last two games that they've played against kansas
[00:24:06] city to play off game and yeah this past weekend it's been the little dudes it's been hardman you
[00:24:12] know what i mean and xavier got loose on him too he just couldn't keep his foot in bounds you know so
[00:24:17] so i'm concerned about that if in a rematch you know in a rematch i would take kansas city
[00:24:24] because i i picked buffalo because it's regular season and i think kansas city has been doing that
[00:24:30] great that makes sense it in a in a rematch i because i haven't seen a team beat kansas city
[00:24:38] twice in one year since my home's been there i could be wrong i don't know the first i really
[00:24:42] remember he had that record against the afc west the afc west i think he's might be something and
[00:24:48] something like 29 and 6 or something like that yeah it's somewhere it's single digits but i don't
[00:24:53] think anyone's beating them twice in the same season tom brady's beating them twice in the playoffs but
[00:24:58] one was the ac championship one was the super bowl but it was wrapped up i mean but so it's like
[00:25:04] i think buffalo also knows that this could be the year because i don't think kansas city's clicking on
[00:25:09] all cylinders i think they have you know and i know we're getting away from pittsburgh but
[00:25:15] pittsburgh went out and got mike williams yeah pittsburgh went out got mike williams because they
[00:25:20] had your pickings on the other side it was like we need somebody else that can do
[00:25:27] at least what pickings does even if what pickings does isn't great it's enough to get him open so
[00:25:34] let's get another guy do the same thing kansas city has been playing around with these possession
[00:25:40] wide receivers ever since tyreek left like they're trying to prove some kind of point
[00:25:44] that he wasn't the reason but i'm like yo if you got a guy that runs that fast and gets that much
[00:25:51] attention he is going to be open kelsey's going to be wide open no matter what the coverage is
[00:25:57] if tyreek runs up the scene because the corner and the safety have to pay attention and the linebacker
[00:26:04] probably has to carry him up the field and kelsey can just run underneath for 12 yard routes
[00:26:09] getting the ball in space but now worthy's not that threat so that linebacker doesn't have to carry him
[00:26:17] up the scene and kelsey's there so he'll have 11 catches for 76 yards right so it's like you know
[00:26:24] stuff like that because he's not getting the extra space they they messed around they didn't do it
[00:26:28] they should have tried to make a move i would have called him like yo what's the problem with dk but that's
[00:26:34] neither here nor there but like i said pittsburgh made that move i think they're playing with more
[00:26:38] confidence house money i think i think the way they like to play football they can carry that luggage
[00:26:46] on any on any plane no matter where the game is true or false there is a team that is not
[00:26:53] in the playoff picture today that will make the playoffs i would say
[00:27:07] tampa bay because i think the south is only getting one team in and atlanta's inability to pressure up the
[00:27:16] middle is going to cost them because it's only so long these these covers these corners can cover
[00:27:24] i was thinking that i was thinking as soon as i said i like mike's gonna fill in the blanks
[00:27:28] i'm gonna keep going i'm acting like i didn't say it uh but it's only so long like nfl corners can
[00:27:34] probably cover you well for three and a half seconds they can cover you decently for four and be there
[00:27:41] but at four and a half no pressure on the quarterback bull nicks was 17 for 19 in the first half against
[00:27:48] atlanta with good defensive players just they don't have the players where they need them that was what i
[00:27:56] talked about in the beginning of the year they didn't i don't think they have the size for kirk to
[00:28:02] be like hell he's down there somewhere i'm gonna throw it up dr london is a big body but they run him
[00:28:09] out of out of the slot because i don't think he's like quick he's like davante adams quick on the outside
[00:28:15] so you kind of get him in the middle you get him in motion and you can't get him matched up on
[00:28:19] maybe the nickel corner maybe you get him in like some kind of rub routes and that's where mooney
[00:28:25] can kind of get loose so there's not a lot of and cow pits doesn't really beat man coverage when he's
[00:28:30] when he's on a db so i think their inability to kind of open up their offense because
[00:28:40] it looks very they don't and the wide receivers aren't big raven mccloud is is is a returner playing
[00:28:46] wide receiver like even the number 34 makes it feel like it doesn't flow like you know it just
[00:28:54] doesn't have the same like i don't i don't know i don't know it makes me think of a bootleg justice
[00:28:59] hill it's just it's just a strange it's just a strange look when he's out there running routes
[00:29:05] and like i said they're both small they're like five nine five ten and kurt is a guy that he doesn't
[00:29:10] move around a lot and they get pressure up the middle because the offensive line hasn't really been
[00:29:15] upgraded on the edges um the guards are are solid but they like to run outside runs
[00:29:23] so that the tackles aren't that great a blocker it's kyle piss not a great blocker so you end up in
[00:29:28] a lot of second and nine third and sevens and if you had a hell jj's down there somewhere jamar
[00:29:36] gonna get open somewhere right he's out there somewhere you know like one of these guys drake
[00:29:41] london's the guy that's like in the red zone yeah throw it up but like in the middle of the field
[00:29:46] he's not a he doesn't stretch the defense to where you know what i'm throwing this jamar chase type of
[00:29:52] route for him so i think with that tampa bay has potential to end up winning the division because
[00:30:00] i saw some with their schedule heard some today i was watching rich eisen show
[00:30:03] damn man about to steal all my thunder
[00:30:09] still all my thunder but they have i got it right here i got it right here okay let me run it down
[00:30:16] and you let me know if i'm hitting the right numbers i think they got carolina two times they do they have
[00:30:23] dallas they do they have uh maybe a jacksonville no no they got the raiders
[00:30:34] because they got the afc west right so i think so right there you got two wins
[00:30:41] dallas is another win because they're just too injured all right now how you feel about that this is
[00:30:46] where i'll stick over this is where i take over so they got the giants the giants this weekend
[00:30:52] they got the panthers and raiders so that's three consecutive weeks and they got what
[00:30:58] eight and five after that you know uh no they're four and six right now i believe let me double check
[00:31:04] real quick they are yeah they're four and six right now okay so that puts them at seven and six in three
[00:31:10] weeks yeah they got dallas eight and six they get carolina again nine and six and then they got the saints
[00:31:21] that's tough if the saints are healthy because they have played healthy saints healthy had they have
[00:31:26] playmakers they had that stretch where so many people were injured and they lost a lot of games
[00:31:31] and then those guys came back and those games that were toss-ups you could lose guys when you have
[00:31:36] everyone there but having like three or four games without taysom hill without their car
[00:31:40] you got there with spencer radler and like a bag of chips playing quarterback uh
[00:31:47] but so that can be that could be the first loss of this stretch but that's a division game
[00:31:52] it's it's a toss-up so and and so so if we're just talking about talent you know so i gotta go with
[00:32:01] the dolphins but the problem is is that when i look at that schedule you know what i mean they get
[00:32:08] new england this week they should win that but drake may has been playing well they go to lambeau for
[00:32:16] thanksgiving for the late game they get the jets at home that's a tough game for a miami team that's
[00:32:25] what i'm saying jets are free falling the week after the jets they go to houston after they play houston
[00:32:31] they get san francisco at home and then they close at cleveland and at the jets so yeah i don't i don't
[00:32:40] know how you pick miami as your that's your team no i didn't pick them i just said going on just going
[00:32:46] off the town that's the answer you know because everybody wants to keep cincinnati alive when i
[00:32:51] tried to tell everybody from day one losses not making the playoffs but that's like it's not
[00:32:59] the people who are believing in cincinnati they're just looking at one side of the ball it's not like
[00:33:05] they're that far off it's not an it's not crazy to think that an explosive offense with the
[00:33:12] quarterback plan at that level can cover up because the ravens defense is just all right now now listen
[00:33:19] to this more playing lights out it's just a matter of like right right but but but you know i'm saying
[00:33:25] listen to this right if they would have we just talked about the three face masks on that play
[00:33:30] against but they did they would have won that game you know i mean so it's like they did
[00:33:35] people are looking at one side of cincinnati well people are looking at one side of the
[00:33:40] of the ball just like in the nba when we talk about the lakers people are like oh look at lebron and ad
[00:33:45] like yeah but who playing defense but besides ad but but you know both of those guys can get you
[00:33:51] 62 to 64 points yeah you can win a game you ain't gonna win four games i'm not gonna fall
[00:33:57] if you're picking the bangles the last two weeks with seven losses right that's at this point
[00:34:05] so check it out they gotta play spoiler right right that's what i'm saying because when you look at
[00:34:10] cincinnati right obviously there's not a chance that cincinnati is going to win the division unless
[00:34:16] pittsburgh slips on banana peels and the ravens slip in the shower because they've already been swept by
[00:34:23] the ravens you know as is you know they they lost to kansas city already not not that kansas city's a
[00:34:29] factor in that way but just looking at conference record they just lost to the chargers you know who
[00:34:36] was the uh fifth seed right now you know or the sixth seed right now then they still play pittsburgh
[00:34:42] twice to include closing at pittsburgh you know and they have a game with denver so
[00:34:50] cincinnati basically has to win out or they can go six and one you know right now they are
[00:34:58] five and one is zach taylor jamar chase hendrickson and burrow sitting at a bar in cincinnati right now
[00:35:07] they're sitting down they're looking at each other feeling like i can't believe we lost to new england
[00:35:15] i can't believe we didn't put kansas city away because they weren't doing anything they got a
[00:35:19] defensive touchdown to get back into that game lost the game to baltimore in overtime and then the
[00:35:25] baltimore the second one and the second one too the second one is probably the one that's going to kill
[00:35:31] them the most because they had complete control of that game for the entire first half i think the time
[00:35:37] of possession might have been like it was like 19 or 20 minutes to 10 or something close to that like
[00:35:42] 21 minutes to nine 20 and a half minutes and then you give up you give up the out route to a guy who's
[00:35:50] only caught like three passes his whole career and he takes for like 80 yard touchdown you don't keep
[00:35:56] lamar contained he runs it down to the one and then just your your play call on that two-point
[00:36:02] conversions like it probably could have been better i know the penalties could have been called
[00:36:07] but those are those are the couple of games i think zach taylor's a dead man walking you know
[00:36:11] saying especially every time they every time they put a microphone in jamar chase's face
[00:36:17] i just see you know zach taylor putting the extra shirt in his luggage just putting one more shirt
[00:36:23] in there just in case i and nick wright said this today uh about tomorrow so i don't want to take credit
[00:36:30] for it but i like when he said it because it made it made sense he's like he was like jamar chase is just
[00:36:36] the right amount of jerk like he's you he says whatever he wants and maybe you wish he wouldn't
[00:36:45] say it but he's so talented that you can't stop him on the field anyway so when he comes in and he says it
[00:36:52] you can't say well you didn't do your part they had two and something no but that's that's exactly
[00:36:59] it my yards against the the ravens and it's like right no but that's exactly it mike it is the owner
[00:37:06] and you know bad owners make snap judgments you know what i mean i think the owner i don't like
[00:37:12] honestly i don't think the owner did anything poorly i think they just they they have the same problem
[00:37:17] the owner doesn't pay anybody he paid joe well that's the quarterback you pay he's gonna pay jamar
[00:37:25] they the he paid the coach he kept marvel lewis around for all those years he respected continuity
[00:37:32] i think it's just a byproduct of like a couple of guys being injured guys playing out of place
[00:37:37] you don't have your your top defense your defensive tackles in you just you know just teams it's not
[00:37:45] college football you don't have like 83 guys you could just run in another five star and keep the
[00:37:50] and keep the train rolling with your mvp caliber quarterback right i never really felt like joe
[00:37:55] burrow was mv mvb caliber i thought i thought people were just kind of putting them up there because
[00:38:00] of that the super bowl run oh he's a really good year that he just can't stay healthy his and his wrist
[00:38:05] still hurts he was still flexing it before the game last week but you can't tell by his numbers i think
[00:38:11] there's like 29 touchdowns and four picks and there's seven losses i got seven losses this year
[00:38:15] right but but touchdowns and two interceptions 68 passing like his password is like 112 but the good
[00:38:23] news for them you know like just going off of that because everybody you know there's a lot of people
[00:38:28] out here still tooting the playoff horn for them you know so just looking at it realistically you know
[00:38:35] denver is the seventh seed at six and five you know the colts are they gotta win six in a row no i
[00:38:42] know they're they're a game behind the colts they're a half a game behind the dolphins so like mathematically
[00:38:47] i could see it the problem is they just lost to the wrong teams already that's the problem so on top
[00:38:52] of their record right now they have no time for this they have to go they have to go six and oh they
[00:38:58] gotta be denver at the very least you know what i mean we're gonna talk about college football and like
[00:39:02] record and why that matters for playoffs and then one more team they simply gotta go six no they gotta
[00:39:06] get ten and seven ten and seven and the afc puts you seven eight and nine all right one more team
[00:39:15] real quick i don't think this team is going to make the playoffs but mike let lethal know that i threw
[00:39:21] on my bone pause you know what i'm saying when i look at the colts you notice the same argument that
[00:39:26] we made for tampa bay except for tampa bay has the guy that's third in touchdowns in the league
[00:39:31] baker mayfield they have todd bowles who if nothing else is gonna coach a defense and blitz young
[00:39:38] quarterbacks you know what i mean so but when i look at the colts it's schedule based i don't think the
[00:39:44] colts are a good team but it's schedule based you know they got they get the they get the lions this
[00:39:50] week so go on and make that two lines perpendicular to each other you know what i mean 42 17 42 21 yeah
[00:39:59] so but then they got the patriots they get tennessee they get jacksonville and the giants after
[00:40:06] their bye so like that's a manageable number you know number of teams i just don't know if they're
[00:40:13] consistent enough to not lose one of those games they're at six and five right they're five and six
[00:40:19] right now five and six so they're named behind denver so they lose to detroit this week and they could
[00:40:25] they could win four in a row possibly yeah what's their last game of the year let's see here give me
[00:40:31] a second here probably houston right i think they played houston twice already
[00:40:37] they they played houston twice already uh because they opened with houston and then they played them
[00:40:42] a couple of weeks ago that was the game where he got tired yeah when he got tired yeah so they close
[00:40:47] with jacksonville so in so so here it is here it is in order they need to win five they need to go
[00:40:55] okay so if you got detroit this week that's six that's five and seven they gotta win five in a row and
[00:41:02] they have five winnable games because two against tennessee well here you go in order this is in order
[00:41:07] so detroit at home okay at new england okay bye week at mile high tennessee at home at met life against
[00:41:21] the giants and then finish out at home with jacksonville and right now they're five and
[00:41:28] they're five and six right now so they could probably afford they'll finish nine and eight to lose yeah
[00:41:34] i picked them to go eight nine so that's about the right you know window they'll finish nine and eight
[00:41:38] i don't denver being top though denver being top defense top five defense against the run and the pass
[00:41:50] it just neutralizes your quarterback altogether because he's right he doesn't throw that well
[00:41:56] and when it's you want to use a running game to kind of get the quarterback available you know get
[00:42:01] him opportunities he's gonna take his opportunities through the passing game which is running the ball
[00:42:06] which denver handles both of those well so i think that's a loss i think detroit's a loss because they
[00:42:11] just i don't think detroit sees nfl teams like like they i don't think they show up and see an nfl team
[00:42:18] across the field i think they show up and see a scrimmage you know what i know we're not doing picks
[00:42:24] tonight but i'm gonna just say this real quick man oh man man oh man we got a game this weekend mr
[00:42:34] logical you know what i'm saying we got a game this weekend and if i remember correctly i'm gonna pull
[00:42:39] it up real quick i think it's at lambeau field yep it's that lambeau field you got the niners coming
[00:42:46] through season on the line they gonna lose we don't figure out later i'll look no no like i said we ain't
[00:42:53] making picks i just wanted to bring that up it was just on my mind since we were talking about this
[00:42:57] because arizona six and four but the rest of the division sitting at five and five san francisco
[00:43:03] goes to lambeau this week the rams get philly at home the cardinals go to seattle so the cardinals
[00:43:15] could leave seven and four with a couple of game lead and be in the proverbial yeah and he beat the
[00:43:22] 49ers and the rams already you know what i mean so obviously they're not locking anything up but
[00:43:28] these divisions are just botching my parlay i set for the
[00:43:33] i don't think i have one correct i deleted the app
[00:43:38] no we did we we did the over under thing on the hot box yesterday you were killing the afc
[00:43:43] you know i'm saying you killed the afc with the over unders you know saying we ain't do the nfc yet
[00:43:48] but um but yeah so so i mean that's that's just where we are this weekend you know there's a lot
[00:43:54] going on in the nfl you know as far as these games that matter right now you know i brought up baltimore
[00:43:59] and the chargers on monday night um chargers are the five right now baltimore's the six
[00:44:05] you know what i mean so that's an important game as far as oh tie breakers and shout out to uh i want
[00:44:11] to give credit to where i heard this michael smith he says as the facts change so does my opinion
[00:44:17] herbert might have it oh really yeah he might have he might have it like i want to see more
[00:44:27] definitely um but watching him and like i said maybe that's why they gave him the contract you know
[00:44:35] i'm never going to profess that i know everything i'm talking about all the time like i can't be
[00:44:38] wrong i love i relish the opportunity to learn no when we had that argument when we had that argument
[00:44:45] you were absolutely right no no you were absolutely right he said he hadn't proved it yet
[00:44:50] you know what i mean like the game had been he had games where it was in his hands and he didn't
[00:44:56] come through he had 700 passes in the season he had 700 passes in the season and didn't uh
[00:45:02] didn't have 30 touchdowns yeah he had his numbers his numbers weren't great he started out like
[00:45:08] eight to eight eight or nine so he got a rocket and he's accurate but he finished 17 of 36 but he
[00:45:16] he made the throws when they counted granite since that he kept giving them opportunities helps them
[00:45:21] out like yeah let's play and that's the same thing that we gave eli manning credit for so you know
[00:45:26] what i'm saying and he still scored more points in that game than eli did so i mean it was the super
[00:45:34] just saying so of course mr logical you know i'm saying you said my man is not a hall of famer you
[00:45:41] said i agree you said my two favorite words consecutively college football absolutely you
[00:45:49] know i'm saying so of course tonight yeah ready for mike's brain we got this beautiful mind venn diagram
[00:45:57] spider web that he's about to in my hand i have these college football rankings so before we even
[00:46:05] get into any of that stuff we talked about pre-show let me bitch a little bit let me bitch a little bit
[00:46:12] i couldn't handle you talking about pre-show so so this is my problem with rankings in general this is
[00:46:17] why i don't like pre-season rankings first of all when the college football committee came together to
[00:46:23] make their first set of rankings they basically did a lot of following of the ap poll it was already
[00:46:29] there for them they make some stuff up a little bit but it was essentially the ap poll so once you
[00:46:36] do this you have teams in a certain position and they lie to us and say we start fresh every week you do not
[00:46:45] no you don't you know say and the reason so so let me take one thing here and you know i'm not saying
[00:46:51] i'm not saying see this is the problem this is the problem with college football fans when you say
[00:46:58] things they ask you hypotheticals so if you say indiana's ahead of alabama they'll say who would
[00:47:04] you choose if alabama played indiana today irrelevant irrelevant yes i would pick alabama but irrelevant
[00:47:12] you know we're talking about right here right now and guess what there's three more rankings left
[00:47:17] two more before the actual fight before the final one so we have time for this to work out so rank them
[00:47:23] how they should be ranked and then let it fall into place the reason that i say that one of the reasons
[00:47:28] that i say that is because i look at smu you know down at number 13 i look at miami at number eight
[00:47:37] same conference you know when i look at miami who is miami beat
[00:47:44] now you can tell me louisville because louisville beat clemson but guess what
[00:47:49] two five told y'all on friday two five told y'all on friday to take stanford 20 and a half against
[00:47:55] louisville and you know what stanford did they just said it won the game you know so you losing to
[00:48:02] stanford you don't get to count that as a good win miami you know maybe the gators they turning their
[00:48:07] season around maybe you could call the gators a decent win now this is your ap poll discussion correct
[00:48:13] right right right but when i look at smu oh no this is still the um college football rankings so so so
[00:48:18] but when i look at smu you know like you look around you try to figure out where their good wins are
[00:48:25] maybe you don't find one but this is the difference miami lost to georgia tech who is not anywhere in
[00:48:32] these rankings even though georgia tech's a good team they're just not in these rankings i'm using
[00:48:37] these rankings as my source who did smu lose to the team that's right behind them by you which is
[00:48:47] another reason i don't like it because why is smu in front of by you when by you beat them
[00:48:52] i know that they lost to kansas last week they fell eight spots i get it but i'm just saying so when i
[00:49:00] look at this now this is where we get into what we talked about so when i'm looking at alabama
[00:49:06] old miss georgia and tennessee those four that little quartet of sec teams you know bama beat georgia
[00:49:17] old miss beat georgia georgia beat tennessee tennessee beat bama georgia beat texas texas ain't beat nobody
[00:49:30] breathing but if you want to look at it and dig a little deeper alabama lost to vanderbilt who is not
[00:49:40] in these rankings who is not in these rankings but that's texas's best win you know so that's that
[00:49:49] you know you look at georgia they beat tennessee but they had the tough schedule i mentioned who they
[00:49:55] lost to but they went to old miss they went to bama they went to texas they beat texas so i'm gonna give
[00:50:02] georgia a little benefit of the doubt just based on the schedule you know saying so then when you look
[00:50:08] at so then when you look at old miss right they got the big win over georgia but you know what they got
[00:50:15] they got a loss to lsu who's not in this ranking they got a loss to kentucky who doesn't have a
[00:50:22] winning record to date and by the way kentucky a 20 and a half point underdog at texas this weekend
[00:50:29] mike furthest game they've ever played west in this country them coming down to austin texas is the
[00:50:36] first time this is the furthest kentucky has ever played in this here united states that's kentucky i thought
[00:50:43] it was western kentucky no it was kentucky that's that sec shit you know what i'm saying so now
[00:50:49] let's did i play in missouri texas west more western missouri the west of missouri i thought
[00:50:56] oh yeah because it's kansas okay yeah yeah all right so then so then when i'm looking at this right
[00:51:04] you got you know colorado is your first two lost non-sec team
[00:51:14] because you got texas a&m in front of them with one sec loss you know they beat lsu of course who
[00:51:22] beat old miss they play texas next week but i don't know if a&m is going to get out of jordan hair this
[00:51:32] weekend so that's an early upset alert for you all burn over texas a&m you know saying but now when i
[00:51:38] look at this you peel it back i look at army and i'm looking at boise state and i'm looking at two
[00:51:44] lane those three teams right my g5s my top g5s because you and lb's in there too now because you
[00:51:50] got to have a team in there to boost boise because all boise has done was lose to oregon by three
[00:51:56] points and their best win is washington state who just lost to new mexico this weekend and by the way boise
[00:52:02] state has the number 126 past defense in the country out of 134 teams just saying just saying
[00:52:11] told you i'm mike was gonna be in his little venn diagram beautiful mind russell croness over here
[00:52:16] so so as we look at this so as we look at this and i kept saying so i got to correct myself because
[00:52:22] i kept saying for the last couple of weeks army's got to go to south bend i messed that up they're
[00:52:28] actually playing at yankee stadium so you know say so mr logical should have been up in there but anyway
[00:52:36] yes so family responsibilities can't make it so so let's play a quick game check me out mike let's play
[00:52:42] a quick game so now that you got boise at number 12 you got army at 19 two lane at 20 so does that
[00:52:52] tell me your eight people yes no i'm still looking at the college ranking the playoff rankings still
[00:52:57] looking at the playoff 25 because the put the playoff rankings have miami as
[00:53:05] the three seed right you're looking at the bracket i'm just looking at the full ranking okay yeah i'm just
[00:53:11] looking at the the one through 25 okay you know what i mean so so so so so boise's 12 army's 19 to
[00:53:18] lane's 20 you and lv is 24 so what that tells me is if boise wins you ain't starting shit over every
[00:53:24] week because if boise wins out they're making the playoff so you ain't starting nothing over so if
[00:53:30] army goes and beats notre dame at yankee stadium this weekend they win out that includes beating navy
[00:53:38] who is not as good as we thought they were that includes beating two lane who's right behind them
[00:53:44] in the aac title game right so now you've got an undefeated army team this is where you painted
[00:53:52] yourself committee this is where you painted yourself now granted it's not very likely that army's going
[00:53:57] to beat notre dame they're 14 and a half point underdogs so let's not you know but but just for the
[00:54:01] sake of conversation just for the sake of first academy to be 14 14 and a half against notre dame
[00:54:09] yeah that means somebody gives them a shot right and just for the sake just for the sake of full
[00:54:15] thoroughness here you know what i mean if army wins that wins notre dame this weekend at yankee stadium
[00:54:22] went out they're undefeated boise wins out they're they got the one loss to oregon that they're getting
[00:54:29] credit for more than some teams are getting credit for wins you know what i mean then
[00:54:35] you got colorado down here at number 16 if they went out they're in the big 12 title game you got byu
[00:54:44] here at 14 if they went out they're in the big 12 title game you got arizona state at 21 if they went out
[00:54:53] they could be in the big 12 title game same with iowa state right behind them at 22 so where you painted
[00:55:01] yourself in this corner is hypothetically calm down mike i'm not hating just trying to lay out the
[00:55:07] scenario if kansas beats colorado this weekend gives colorado their third loss
[00:55:16] if arizona state three point favorite at home against byu this weekend if they win that game
[00:55:23] byu takes a second big 12 loss iowa state's got the utes iowa state seven point favorites at rice
[00:55:32] eccles if they win that game isaac can't throw the ball to utah players and i just learned this word today
[00:55:40] and if iowa state wins farmageddon against kansas state i just learned that today against kansas state
[00:55:49] then iowa state's in the big 12 championship game so what you could have is two two lost teams in the
[00:55:57] big 12 championship game and one of them is number 22 right now so if they get through and win the big
[00:56:06] 12 championship game you're going to jump them past undefeated army past boise yep because as it stands
[00:56:16] right now looking at the bracket boise's number four right now in the bracket sure so they would be ahead
[00:56:23] of the big 12 champion perceived as byu right now who's out of the way at 14 so byu would be the 12 seed
[00:56:30] looking at this bracket right now you would be byu and once they dispose of that carcass they're going
[00:56:38] to play boise it's one for bracket on november 19th it is every year you know every year the bracket looks
[00:56:45] optimistic every year the bracket looks like man so the question is got a chance every single year
[00:56:53] and then after all the games are played and all the championship games are played then the conjecture
[00:56:59] is thrown in which is to your hypothetical point who would you rather see play alabama georgia or
[00:57:08] indiana would you rather see an alabama georgia rematch or georgia versus indiana like that's the
[00:57:14] conversations that happen they happen with the pundits i remember a few years back when alabama beat
[00:57:22] georgia twice in the same year they beat him in the regular season and i think each time they beat him
[00:57:29] by a single digits maybe a field goal touchdown and kirby smart it was because it was he got beat they lost the
[00:57:37] sec championship game he goes to the podium and he says i guarantee you that team over there
[00:57:44] doesn't want to see us again well there's only four spots homie you weren't going to get another shot
[00:57:52] but he labored for it like i said nick saban straight up was on tv announcing at he was a guest
[00:57:59] announcer the sec championship game he said we lost on last second field goals if they would have had 12
[00:58:07] teams they would have gotten them in they're going to get the teams in that they feel maybe even based
[00:58:14] on analytics analytics will say that georgia's is a top eight team in the country alabama's top six
[00:58:22] maybe old missus 11 the analytics at the end of the year will point the well like i said you're gonna get
[00:58:30] about 16 18 teams i'm expanding to 18 because it's a lot of these different dynamics because
[00:58:36] two and three lost teams could end up in championships and right and a couple of undefeated g5 schools could
[00:58:43] be out there so you're gonna get a pool if you're the committee of well 16 we'll go 16 teams so right
[00:58:51] you're gonna get that pool and what they're gonna do is figure out okay which four teams don't fit
[00:58:58] so the old even if they're an sec or big 12 school but the sec champs getting in the big 12 champs
[00:59:06] getting in the big 10 champs that's what i was about to bring up so acc champs so that scenario
[00:59:12] that i just laid out everything that i just walked through the reason that i walked through that scenario
[00:59:17] is because if iowa state is 22 right now and they win the big 12 title they're gonna jump them into
[00:59:25] the playoff and that's the and that's where you paint yourself in the corner but that's the thing
[00:59:29] i don't think they care about the corner or the paint i know but i'm just here to call it out
[00:59:34] yeah we call it out every year last year was a prime example before the state not getting in
[00:59:40] the reason for the state didn't get in was because texas beat alabama alabama beat georgia you can't tell
[00:59:51] the sec champ america you're not getting in and you can't and we're putting in uh for the state even
[01:00:00] though they can't not put the team in that beat the sec champ right that was the real conversation
[01:00:08] the statement that they wrote down on a notepad and they had presented at the podium or they had for
[01:00:15] all the the pundits to say was we didn't feel for the state was a complete team because they were
[01:00:21] missing their starting quarterback even though he was missing for a month i mean so it's like so
[01:00:27] they're going to get the the these teams in and like i said we're we're we'll transition to our g5
[01:00:33] conversation where i think yeah we will but i have one more thing for you yeah yeah yeah but
[01:00:38] yeah but as far as like the committee certain things are going to play out like we probably like
[01:00:44] your sec you know doomsday dream you had with all these teams it's not going to happen right but it
[01:00:51] would have been dope to see because we know the committee will not because they they box themselves
[01:00:57] into this 12 out of 136 that's the problem yeah yeah the nfl has 14 out of 32 right and even that has
[01:01:09] very clear lines of like if the houston texans and every team in the afc south just hit a wall and the
[01:01:18] texans finish their season at eight nine but they win the tie breakers that are the parameters that are
[01:01:23] already set by the nfl they're in the committee has parameters that they're going to stick to they
[01:01:29] already they've already made these concessions over the last 10 years we already know what they are
[01:01:35] we already know what they respect we already know what they want to see we already know what they don't
[01:01:40] like to repeat they don't want to they didn't want to tcu versus georgia again because the championship
[01:01:47] game should never be 65 to anything unless it's 64 and it was 130 yeah so the we've already we already
[01:01:56] know what their framework is and once you like so once you get these 16 teams in whether it's byu
[01:02:04] whether it's indiana if you have the wins with the 12 teams they're probably going to slot you in
[01:02:11] but if you give them any wiggle room and you are a third place big 12 team with three losses even
[01:02:18] though they could be the three greatest losses ever you could have played three games against nfl teams
[01:02:22] they don't care they're going to get the two loss sec school and that's going to fill up
[01:02:30] the stadium in the middle of texas right look at that oh great so so what we got right now
[01:02:37] you know what i'm saying you are ready for oh mike oh you you sneak out yeah
[01:02:45] he wasn't ready for that so so here we go right in this moment so so here you are
[01:02:54] yo this is dope and i'm glad i'm glad you no this is so fucking dope keep going my bad
[01:03:00] so this is your playoff bracket as of today as you can see the top four seeds are oregon texas
[01:03:07] miami and boise so those are the teams getting the buys this is how it shakes out alabama and notre
[01:03:14] dame the winner gets oregon ohio state byu we brought that up already winner gets boise texas
[01:03:23] gets the winner of indiana and old miss and then you got georgia and penn state in a game that i
[01:03:30] would love to see and the winner of that game plays miami you know saying so now mr logical
[01:03:41] it's time to play my favorite game all right let's hear it guess that line
[01:03:48] so this is from the guy that i want to be like when i grow up josh pate you know his show has a
[01:03:54] deal and cbs has their deal with fan duel so those four matchups that we just went through
[01:04:02] all right boise i mean i'm sorry byu going to columbus what do you think the spread is
[01:04:11] a hypothetical no this is this is legit if they played today this is what the spread would be
[01:04:16] ohio state plus ten and a half oh how's they by 21 what by 21 all right wait for what
[01:04:33] like i'm not a byu guy but it's like you know they have big football players
[01:04:40] like they have a big strong you gotta figure they're coming off a loss team you gotta figure
[01:04:45] they're coming off a loss to a kansas team that came into that game google the google the average age
[01:04:50] of the byu football team they're like 22 across the board they're adults they're not like yo
[01:04:59] byu byu probably the same age as jacksonville all right here you go that's crazy 21 points here you go
[01:05:06] georgia georgia going into happy valley what's that line georgia seven and a half georgia by one and a
[01:05:17] half oh okay that's respectful i just i was getting ridiculous because the 21 with the byu and ohio
[01:05:24] state like old miss at indiana what's that line oh miss three and a half old miss one and a half
[01:05:36] and then finally bama at notre dame going to south bend touchdown jesus what's that line alabama two
[01:05:45] and a half alabama i think i said this already one and a half one and a half besides the ohio state
[01:05:55] byu thing so i guess you're gonna get if this is the bracket you get what you want you know what i mean
[01:06:01] but anyway so moving forward mr logical you know i presented a question to you earlier okay you know
[01:06:09] saying and before i because you know this is before i get to my random notes but i just want you to tell me
[01:06:16] do you feel that the g5 needs to be removed okay here we go like i said i told you you're gonna like
[01:06:26] my response because it's a little bit more of my wheelhouse uh you can see a couple of these degrees
[01:06:30] over here the bottom one is criminal justice administration top one public administration
[01:06:35] i was always big into like government crime law like procedures logistics like something that like
[01:06:42] makes sense to me something that like i said when every time i talk about the committee you get into
[01:06:48] the to stats and and the spread and i look at like okay what are the behaviors of the committee what do
[01:06:54] we know for sure what have we seen that's consistent throughout the years even though people feel it's
[01:06:59] inconsistent i don't think so i think they've consistently gone with if you if you have an avenue
[01:07:06] to where we can move you out of championship contention we will and they have every single time
[01:07:14] so what i thought about as far as like keeping a g5 and why it's important for the g5 you have to have
[01:07:23] something else um so i thought about this earlier so i have my favorite christmas movie is called it's
[01:07:31] a wonderful life it's based on the guy george bailey what uh it's based in bedford falls it's frank
[01:07:39] capram it's a great film me and my grandson bedford falls it's bedford falls new york okay uh so in the movie
[01:07:48] george bailey his father starts uh building a loan company where you can like get a loan to build your
[01:07:53] house this other guy named henry f potter is a greedy guy he owns everything else he keeps when there's
[01:08:00] like the great depression he bought everything else there was a run at the bank he bought he took over
[01:08:04] the bank he takes he has like he owns everything else they have bailey building a loan george trying to
[01:08:12] get out of town can't leave his father dies he ends up taking over the family business and in this this
[01:08:19] is one scene he gives this rant about it and he was like that rant but he's like he was just yelling
[01:08:23] to the board members he's like this town needs this building alone just so they don't have to run the
[01:08:31] potter to get anything they asked for so what the these all these other conferences trying to take over
[01:08:38] everything you need the g5 you need to give them an opportunity yes we understand that it's not
[01:08:47] that the football products that are coming out of you know out west the smaller schools boise
[01:08:54] state idaho's your cincinnati's like your smaller schools traditionally aren't producing your nfl talent
[01:09:02] every single year right but they still need an opportunity to play well and have a real goal
[01:09:09] to get the thing that they want i.e every like everyone in that town needed an opportunity to get
[01:09:15] a home without having to go to potter to get some high interest loans like listen you can come here
[01:09:20] we're a family-friendly business we're going to give you an opportunity you might not get as many
[01:09:25] opportunities because we are smaller but we're going to have this for you so if you think about the
[01:09:30] united states has several laws against monopolies not for business practices sherman anti-trust act
[01:09:36] passed in 1890 law makes it legal to monopolize and attempt to monopolize or form a contract
[01:09:41] combination conspiracy to restrain trade so all these programs all these businesses everyone's trying
[01:09:49] to take away the the big pot at the end of the rainbow for all these smaller schools if you're not
[01:09:57] concerned if you feel like oh the the quality of football players coming out of boise state
[01:10:03] coming out of these smaller schools and you know making all these small schools join the sec
[01:10:08] or join the acc or join the big 10 and you're tearing down the pac-12 and you're not giving them
[01:10:14] opportunities like it's you're creating a bit of a monopoly so they need to keep that around so
[01:10:20] these teams have an opportunity to play their 12 game season and their championship and get at least
[01:10:26] one of these 52 schools into the into the ring to play around that's all that that's all they're
[01:10:34] asking for no one's asking for it to be 24 teams and six of them come from the g5 or five of them come
[01:10:41] from the g5 it just won't one school that has risen above everybody else in there in you know
[01:10:48] amongst their conglomerate to be able to represent against you know the proverbial big boys the big
[01:10:54] boys need to win their games georgia needs to win their games tennessee needs to win their games clinton
[01:11:02] needs to win their games because your path to getting in is easy because as soon as you win you're in
[01:11:09] these other schools need help they need rankings they need to scratch and claw to get an opportunity
[01:11:18] everybody else has got to win they can win all their games and not get in army can be undefeated
[01:11:26] and possibly not get in or go undefeated and boy state doesn't get in even though the only loss was to
[01:11:32] the number one team in america you know so they they need to stay around the problem is they're
[01:11:38] never going to be able to match the money if you look at who gets some money and i'm pretty sure you
[01:11:43] probably already looked at something like this but if you think about like 2023 the power five
[01:11:49] conference is running 3.5 billion dollars conference usa in 2023 gave their schools 750 000
[01:11:57] each the acc gave their schools 44 million dollars each so it's like you're getting every advantage
[01:12:07] with the money if these people are competing and they don't have the money but they're they're up
[01:12:12] there then they should get an opportunity to to play against because not everyone it doesn't need to be
[01:12:17] six six five five schools against six other schools one at large because that's probably going to be a
[01:12:22] blowout but the best of the best from that group give them an opportunity don't disband them don't
[01:12:28] block them out just give them an opportunity so you know so long story short the g5 is welfare
[01:12:37] so just looking at this here um this is harsh this is for no i mean but it's real i'm gonna get to that
[01:12:43] but but you know but this is the college football playoff payout this year so i know it's a little
[01:12:49] small there so uh so four million goes to each team that makes the playoff you know then you get an
[01:12:57] additional four million for the teams that win the first round games or i guess that's everybody
[01:13:04] includes it's the eight teams so the buy you get another four million dollars as well six million each
[01:13:11] for the four teams that make the semi-finals and then six million each for the championship game
[01:13:17] and then you know just for making the college football playoff you get three million dollars
[01:13:23] to cover your expenses for each round that you travel because as we brought up before
[01:13:29] you know the first round games are on campus and then from there it goes to the bowl games even though
[01:13:35] it's stupid to me because if i'm somebody like say oregon who's number one right now let's just say it
[01:13:42] plays out they stay number one you mean to tell me ohio state who i would have beat probably twice
[01:13:48] gets to host a home playoff game and i don't you know what i mean so so there's that so when i so
[01:13:55] when i talk about the welfare there's some schools out here like kent state and akron lebron do the right
[01:14:02] thing it's only so much money you can bump to a program man you know but but the point is is that
[01:14:09] you know these schools probably don't belong in fbs and that doesn't apply to schools like say tulane
[01:14:18] you know or memphis and schools like that but there is i feel a very definitive line of schools
[01:14:26] that just need to get chopped away that's half the mac that schools like temple
[01:14:31] that's the thing why they
[01:14:34] because they just don't have the budget to complete they don't have the budget to complete
[01:14:37] that's the thing and they don't have they don't have the ability to get nil
[01:14:41] they could continue to compete at the level that they're at they're just not going to get there like
[01:14:46] they're not going to they're not going to they're not going to they're not going to threaten this position
[01:14:53] of a good indiana team even though generally indiana has not been one of the better sec or
[01:14:59] big 10 football teams this year they have a good time you know they had a good run
[01:15:04] um a lot of schools yes they're paying they're paying schools are going to play them and i understand
[01:15:10] that my issue is that they are not going to threaten the position of any of the power five schools
[01:15:17] because once you eliminate
[01:15:20] the g5 right then that that eliminates their contracts because now they're not going to be on tv
[01:15:26] we see division two and division three playoff games on the espn but because they don't factor
[01:15:33] into the national championship at the highest level of college football there's no regular season to
[01:15:39] where we get to see them so now when it comes to recruiting you're got you're just going to have
[01:15:45] stacked teams because guys don't want to go to akron because they're in the mac and the mac doesn't get
[01:15:51] any kind of airplay like if i'm going to a college and i'm a young football player i want to play
[01:15:56] because even if you want to transfer every coach isn't going to see all your tape but if you play
[01:16:03] akron versus bowling green one week and you're the bowling green quarterback or wide receiver you go off
[01:16:10] four catch four touchdowns 220 yards and it's on espn any coach can see that like coaches aren't gonna
[01:16:18] like you know so it's still like the opportunity for i think i don't understand this this over
[01:16:26] uh uh insensibility to just limit everything we get and only put the quote-unquote best team it's like
[01:16:36] put college football on tv when it comes to picking a national champion you're probably not going to have
[01:16:43] akron lined up against or oregon at any time it won't do the right thing lebron
[01:16:48] you know but but i know it's inaccurate because it's stuck in my head but like any of these schools
[01:16:52] northern and law yeah they had their one hey they beat notre dame yeah notre dame but that's not going
[01:16:57] to be a standard thing until their program gets bigger but these programs aren't going to get
[01:17:02] bigger if we cut them all from the source and the the the food chain is the financial food chain like i just
[01:17:08] said in 2023 conference usa gave 750 000 to each school the same year the acc gave 44.8 million for
[01:17:19] the same product it's the same thing it's supply and demand right it's going to be a 43 million
[01:17:28] dollar disparity but that's what the sec is talking about right now where they only play eight games them
[01:17:34] and the acc only play eight games while the big 10 and big 12 play nine conference games i'm talking
[01:17:39] about and the sec is basically like hey espn needs to pay us for that extra game but they're getting
[01:17:47] paid so much i know i know and that's why i wanted to show this story these meetings and tell people like
[01:17:54] yo shut up you're getting enough money you're getting enough for this shit it's like what else do you want
[01:18:01] you got boosters that's why usc has a billion like over they have billions of dollars in their endowment
[01:18:08] from donors and former graduates the money is running rampant and it's getting out of control
[01:18:16] right it's football never gonna threaten alabama toledo is never gonna threaten to to win to beat out
[01:18:26] you know all these small football teams that have stadiums that are smaller than texas high school
[01:18:34] stadiums are not going to come down all of a sudden start going to the big house and run an appalachian
[01:18:40] state every year but they should be still be given an opportunity as even as fairly as the playing field
[01:18:46] can be which is your espn you have exposure like imagine like think about all the people that you
[01:18:54] know we've shared our podcast with and we watch their podcast imagine if somebody had a podcast that had
[01:19:01] a hundred thousand subscribers and they only shared your videos and not this show even like yo like
[01:19:09] we are a unit we should both have an opportunity to to to be to for exposure they're like nah we only
[01:19:16] want to show akron because they came down here and took three million dollars and we beat them well well
[01:19:22] that's why i wanted to share the feel good but that's why i wanted to share the feel good story on
[01:19:25] the screen right because because toledo went into a sec stadium this year got paid 1.2 million
[01:19:32] came out of there with a 24 point win and then on top of that they got 575 000 from maryland because
[01:19:39] that's who they were supposed to play but maryland had to cancel the game so you know so they're
[01:19:44] dependent schools like that are dependent on these payments that's why i brought up the welfare thing
[01:19:49] you know just like the fcs schools like the hbc because the espn the espn or espn cbs nbc fox they're all
[01:19:58] bowing to these teams as if they have other options dog if colorado doesn't get their games on espn
[01:20:07] or fox or cbs doesn't play alabama games who's gonna spread your your stuff nationally you don't
[01:20:15] have your own tv like your your big tent network is under a cbs umbrella so it's like it's not as if
[01:20:24] you have the leverage to just be like you know what we're gonna broadcast our own games no you won't
[01:20:28] it'd be like netflix trying to watch that fight it should just be stalling and we'll be watching
[01:20:34] you know navy versus whomever because they're not gonna argue with whatever deal cbs gives them
[01:20:39] so it's a matter of like it's just greed it's just that's all it is that's all you have all the time
[01:20:45] in the world obviously we're playing games here the sec is literally making more than 10 times what the
[01:20:53] mountain west is off of their tv deal you know and you know the mountain west just got poached by the
[01:20:59] pack 12 who's gonna make a comeback in a few years you know like they took boise they took colorado
[01:21:06] state they took fresno they took san diego state they took utah state you know that but this isn't the pack 12
[01:21:13] there ain't no usc oregon washington arizona in that conference cal is in the acc cal and cal and
[01:21:21] stanford and but to your point smu smu was able to get into the acc but that's because of their location
[01:21:31] and the oil money you know the school of george w bush by the way you know in eric dickerson the pony
[01:21:39] excess they had that money on standby that a toledo would never have so so like yes like it's fun to
[01:21:48] lido can play against eastern michigan western michigan the central michigan chippewas i didn't make that
[01:21:54] up you know they can play against those teams and then come out now they beat mississippi state this
[01:22:00] year and then they can play their their nine conference games and they can finish this season
[01:22:07] nine and three they get their championship they get their bowl game they do the mine
[01:22:11] card carry bowl like every summer actually so this was talked about in the summer all get their
[01:22:16] opportunity that they shouldn't limit they shouldn't lose their opportunity because because a couple
[01:22:20] of conferences want so you don't think that so you don't think that because this was brought up in the
[01:22:25] summer you don't think that they should have their own playoff independent of the other the uh cfp
[01:22:31] well that that playoff wasn't wouldn't make any sense if they're not getting any airplay
[01:22:37] you're just you're just playing i agree that's why you're just playing extra games so just play your
[01:22:43] games and play your bowl game like you're not unless you're going to literally flat out create a
[01:22:48] different division and then give it the same type of of promotion energy granted you don't have
[01:22:55] like you can go fbs level one like they do in high school football here like
[01:23:04] yeah one eight two way all the way up to seven eight depends on where you are um if you're a private
[01:23:10] school if you're private catholic school you play this kind of schedule because there's a recognition
[01:23:15] that you can go out and recruit talent from anywhere in the country to come to your catholic school
[01:23:21] in indiana georgia south carolina jersey you can get kids from wherever they can come
[01:23:28] and your your team is stacked you have a 1.5 million dollar budget for your high school football
[01:23:34] recruitment you know which is crazy you're gonna you're gonna beat the hell out of all the public
[01:23:38] schools in your general area so you have to play a different schedule that's fine which is crazy too
[01:23:43] because like for example i know we keep talking about toledo but you know they're one of the better g5s
[01:23:49] consistently you know their quarterback last year daquan finn he left to go to baylor
[01:23:56] and then he got benched at baylor so you know so that's the other thing like they're going to chase
[01:24:02] the money because if you're any good you're coming like who wasn't the miami of ohio coach like alabama
[01:24:08] was talking to our kicker yeah alabama he's like alab he's like we didn't lose our kicker
[01:24:12] we know where he is alabama took him yeah and that's what i'm saying we didn't lose him we know exactly
[01:24:15] where he is basically like there's another i don't want to it's not a draft but there's another
[01:24:22] you know you get from college to the nfl but now you're going from g5 to power four as well
[01:24:30] juco's are our tryouts for division two division three schools division three schools are somewhat you
[01:24:38] know you can do a little tryout to get to you know a bowling green or one of these midwestern
[01:24:45] back schools and then you do one year there you get the extra year eligibility now you're 24 you got
[01:24:52] your man body and then you get one year at pit you get your one year at alabama you get your one year
[01:24:57] at syracuse and then maybe you get drafted it's the way that college football is going i just think
[01:25:04] holistically we understand that that's the part let's not cut then all the legs out from under
[01:25:11] these smaller schools because you need them you need schools you need because every i don't want to
[01:25:17] watch just 40 schools play football i don't want to watch the 18 big 10 schools and 16 big 12 schools or
[01:25:26] the what is it 14 sec schools and and the 18 acc schools just like because once you get two losses
[01:25:35] what what am i watching you for half your players gonna transfer out right once you once if you get
[01:25:41] to six and two and you have no shot at making the playoffs you might lose your quarterback yeah we just
[01:25:46] saw alabama player leave today you know we saw bear alexander leave usc about four weeks ago like
[01:25:52] that's where we are right now but yeah so like these smaller these smaller schools need opportunities
[01:25:59] to continue to play they need really good espn deals because it's not like espn's out here reporting net
[01:26:05] losses they're turning a profit break these kids off you know two three million dollars and if you're
[01:26:11] turning the profit of 1.8 billion dollars man break these schools off another couple hundred million so
[01:26:19] we can keep them on tv that way we don't have to keep watching sports center eight different times
[01:26:24] throughout the day you can put actual games on we don't have to keep having the same conversation on
[01:26:29] get up first things first first take like you can put actual sports on you can put more basketball
[01:26:36] on you're gonna highlight more female programs it's like they're just chasing the money the football
[01:26:41] money is gonna be there the money is always going to be there too they don't even have to chase it
[01:26:45] yeah just put you can put anything you want on tv right and big 12 don't cut them out put them on
[01:26:52] and big 12 stop playing get memphis and tulane in there man you know but um you know of course before
[01:26:58] we close it out you know saying just some random two five isms going on you know what i mean some
[01:27:04] notes that i took and you know just want to share with the world real quick i got a note i just want to
[01:27:08] okay go ahead go ahead philly is two and 11 they are well well we can talk about that in a second
[01:27:15] that's it that's that's i was just like well i mean you i mean you had your star player miss what
[01:27:20] the first 10 games of the season paul george missed the first six or seven games maxi has missed the last
[01:27:27] six or seven i just showed a version of imbead you know what i mean and that's that's what i said when
[01:27:32] they made the deal i was like you know they got too much going on and they're relying on injured
[01:27:38] players so you know that's why i don't believe in them you know but uh taking it from the top
[01:27:45] south carolina beat missouri on saturday that was the first time in school history
[01:27:51] that they beat three ranked teams consecutively so shout out to the game cocks you know cockvember
[01:27:59] you know said october's over it's cockvember you know saying navy we talked about that earlier how
[01:28:05] navy wasn't as good as we thought they were yeah i didn't think they were gonna get shut out by two
[01:28:10] lane yeah they should just kind of keep proving it auburn auburn remember earlier i picked auburn i
[01:28:17] said auburn over texas a&m this weekend this is auburn's problem they need two more wins to get to a bowl
[01:28:26] they got a&m and at bama so good luck um like now alabama the state of alabama and the surrounding
[01:28:38] states probably going to give you the best football players available you should always you should always
[01:28:47] have a winning program when you when you coach at auburn there's no reason for you there's no reason for
[01:28:53] you to to not walk into the season like we got eight we got eight in the possible we got eight and four
[01:28:59] possibles every year in your 12 games schedule right you should have eight ace of spade on down for sure
[01:29:07] when you get your when you get your cards yeah and then um you know we got some big ones this week in
[01:29:14] the big 12 i mentioned earlier by you at arizona state colorado at kansas at arrowhead you know so
[01:29:23] uh coaching news real quick so dave aranda got the blessing the the vote of confidence so he'll be at
[01:29:31] baylor next year neil brown not so much at west virginia you better beat ucf this weekend but for some
[01:29:39] coaches that are not lucky you know stan drayton fired after a win tom herman fired you remember tom
[01:29:49] herman remember he was coaching houston beat oklahoma yeah ended up at texas you know what so on that note
[01:29:58] how about this mr logical there are four teams in fbs whose mascot is the owl all four of them fired
[01:30:10] their coach in season this year all four of them you know um south alabama hands louisiana their first
[01:30:21] sunbelt loss so the west is not one just yet so florida state fans florida state fans you know we found out
[01:30:30] the hard way brock glenn is not the answer you know i do like chromahawk but a lot of f florida state
[01:30:38] fans were talking about how we wish we had tate roddemaker this year well let me tell you what tate
[01:30:44] roddemaker is up to tate roddemaker is going six for 15 for 63 yards with an interception losing 58-3 to
[01:30:54] texas state on the season four touchdowns five interceptions it probably would have been the same
[01:31:03] if we had tate roddemaker we gotta pause in this we gotta we get
[01:31:09] how
[01:31:13] how is this football team
[01:31:19] one in nine florida state how do you retain your coach because he went 13 and 0 the year prior i
[01:31:28] don't give it like if you went 13 and oh one in nine hey i get you have a down year
[01:31:39] but where's the promise like if the transfer portal everybody's been married in a relationship
[01:31:48] right right right you can have a rough year but if you don't have a week in the year where it's like
[01:32:02] we had a good week or you don't have a couple of months out of 12 where it was like yo
[01:32:08] we had a good time this summer the kids were out of school from may to august we had a good run
[01:32:15] if every single month you just sitting in your car just like i gotta go in this house
[01:32:22] like that it's not working you can't go to new year's
[01:32:27] the transfer portal you can't go into new year's
[01:32:32] tuxedo watching the ball drop in new york city knowing the year you just had
[01:32:37] and you had nothing good come of it hey that is over i would like to think
[01:32:44] i would like to think that florida state is gonna beat fcs charleston southern this weekend
[01:32:52] yo you you know what the thing is
[01:32:55] there's no evidence to support that i know but hold up i'm gonna give you something though i got
[01:33:00] i got a tidbit for you here but when i thought about that i was like well damn mike norvell
[01:33:07] did lose to fcs jacksonville state just two or three years ago jacksonville state is now fbs and
[01:33:15] about to probably win cusa by the way but still they were fb they were fcs at the time that they beat
[01:33:22] mike norvell on the last play of the game so just saying um shout out to our guy bronco
[01:33:29] is not any better shout out to our guy bronco mendenhall you know took one of the worst jobs in
[01:33:37] the country at new mexico and all he did was beat top 25 washington state this past weekend washington
[01:33:44] state still ranked 25 in the ap poll but they're not in this week's college football playoff rankings
[01:33:49] you know you know so then nebraska we've been talking about them a little bit this year
[01:33:56] four and 21 in their last 25 one scoring games that's not even the worst part they haven't made a bowl
[01:34:08] game since 2017 right around the same time the steelers won their last playoff game but um
[01:34:19] we need that information nebraska has also lost nine straight games when they had a chance to clinch a
[01:34:27] bowl so they finished with wisconsin and iowa good luck nebraska you know uh had a lot to say
[01:34:37] early this year about colorado and you know like hey they beat colorado
[01:34:43] yeah that looks good now 28 to 10 right you know um purdue the boiler makers right you formerly known
[01:34:52] as the spoiler makers now just known as shit so this year they had the tough schedule right they played
[01:34:59] oregon they played notre dame they played ohio state they played penn state the only one of those games
[01:35:07] that was on the road was the ohio state game they lost those four games by a combined 195 to 17
[01:35:17] to include getting shut out by both oregon and ohio state now so when you were talking about
[01:35:26] getting rid of like some of these g5 schools i know this is not a realistic thing but soccer in europe
[01:35:35] does it does it the whole relegation thing i think if you are fsu or purdue and you go
[01:35:44] one and nine two and ten i think for a year you should swap with the nearest conference usa or g5 school
[01:35:54] for that year i'm fine with that i'm fine with that indiana so purdue's in indiana
[01:36:01] uh they gotta let northern illinois in since they beat notre dame northern illinois or like maybe a
[01:36:07] team from ohio because they border each other but like something regionally yeah so florida state i
[01:36:13] don't know you got uff south florida south florida they get to be in the acc for a year yeah they
[01:36:20] own they get they get they get 15 of your money you still get the 85 but they get they get a nice little
[01:36:27] chunk of change and you figure out how to get your program back on track and then you get to come back
[01:36:33] no i got you you know what i'm saying i mean it is what it is like i would love to see that that's one
[01:36:39] of the things i love about soccer you know but you know it just you're not you're not competing at one
[01:36:46] in nine at one in nine on an even playing field like you have the same rules you have the same recruiting
[01:36:53] rules you have you know depends on what conference you're in you're getting a large chunk of the money
[01:36:59] so purdue's getting the same cut as ohio state granted ohio state gets a lot of other stuff and
[01:37:06] you know they're a bigger brand but right as far as like enough money to fill the quality football team
[01:37:12] you're getting that for sure right you you you you wasted that money you squander that money
[01:37:22] you're getting audited you're getting relegated we want to know how is it that you couldn't field
[01:37:29] and they get it maybe some guys get hurt but you get 83 scholarships that's enough
[01:37:36] for you got more and then you three you have four full offenses four separate ones
[01:37:46] and three and a half defenses on your one roster they got more talent than everybody that they've
[01:37:53] lost to besides miami and maybe maybe clemson you know what i mean but you know some more coaching
[01:38:01] fires you know i feel bad because i went to the alamo dome on friday to watch utsa work all over
[01:38:07] north texas little did i know i would wake up the next day and tex north texas defensive coordinator
[01:38:13] matt caponi got fired after that game don brown fired at umass a school that probably should be on
[01:38:24] that list of schools that should not be fbs you know the last time umass had a winning season
[01:38:31] in football was it was in the 2000s it was in the 2000s 2011 it was 2010 when they were still fcs by
[01:38:44] the way okay that's their last winning season you know um i brought up tom herman he's out you know and
[01:38:52] you know so oh and also biff poogie
[01:38:58] fired fired fired fired up the name alone he got fired yesterday at charlotte so mr logical before
[01:39:05] we get out of here one last pop quiz so i mentioned everybody the four schools that have owls as their
[01:39:13] mascot fired their coaches during the season this year what are the chances of that um can you name those
[01:39:21] four schools temple one give me a region the state i'm in there's enough teams here that that ain't a
[01:39:42] good enough clue uh rice correct um um and then the other two are in the southeast uav are they owls
[01:39:58] no they're the blazers with a dragon mascot kind of creative i guess yeah the blaze uh i can't think
[01:40:08] of anything right now florida atlantic fau yep i just said them too yeah i think about the helmet yeah
[01:40:16] yeah and then the one that you wouldn't have got anyway because this is their first year as a fbs team
[01:40:22] and they fired their coach kennesaw state down in kennesaw georgia right outside of atlanta
[01:40:30] so teams are moving up to you know division one fbs level to try to get to chase some of this this cash
[01:40:38] but you know what's crazy though they're they only won one game i believe they're one in nine
[01:40:43] their one win was against liberty that was uh uh the how the hell that they yeah i remember that
[01:40:53] yeah liberty almost lost the umass this weekend beat them by one point in overtime so go figure
[01:40:58] but um you know and and oh yeah last thing i forgot to say this i didn't have it in my notes but
[01:41:04] you know what western kentucky you need a foot in your ass you know saying first place on the line
[01:41:12] and you lose 12 to 7 to louisiana tech that honestly when i when i see scores like that
[01:41:22] i think to myself there is a disconnect or a panic in the coaching staff is like
[01:41:31] yeah there are easy plays out there that move the ball for you every drive
[01:41:41] there's a disconnect between like the calmness necessary
[01:41:47] and the fortitude necessary going forward because you if you got the one touchdown
[01:41:56] something worked you should be able to get a couple especially when you are the favorite or
[01:42:01] you're like a good team or like like byu losing 17 to 13 is like
[01:42:07] just lean on your offensive line like you know what we're gonna run the ball 12 times in a row
[01:42:11] go to the coach grabs the old offensive line coach and the defensive coordinator and the
[01:42:18] offensive coordinator they get in the huddle and you grab all those young men by their face mask
[01:42:23] like listen you've been getting tossed around all game long i'm gonna give you an opportunity
[01:42:28] we're going two tight ends single back and we running this down the middle of the field right
[01:42:35] i don't want to see you get beat on any rep like that has to be like the thing like you said it like
[01:42:43] oh we're gonna no don't get cute just you you guys are 300 pounds you're 22 years old like i'm gonna
[01:42:51] look up the average age of byu real quick but it's like you shouldn't like i'm not like i'm not riding
[01:42:56] for byu but i just i want like i want the chaos in the committee you know i want that part of it so
[01:43:03] like i'm rooting for teams and i just like like i was rooting for colorado against utah because i want
[01:43:07] to see other teams being represented in the playoff because i don't want to just see four sec schools
[01:43:15] three acc schools and four big ten schools you know it's like like who wants to see you uh ohio
[01:43:22] state play penn state again right like i just i don't i don't want you know why i want the chaos but
[01:43:29] i'm just like you know why cusa ain't getting no money why is that jacksonville state western
[01:43:39] kentucky sam houston liberty louisiana tech florida international middle tennessee utep new mexico
[01:43:45] state kennesaw state that just sounds nasty let's see your play is on your schedule
[01:43:52] utep is leaving to go to the mountain west you know so there's that 21 the average age of 2024
[01:44:00] 24 byu football team is 21.4 years players typically range from 18 to 23 years old which
[01:44:08] includes traditional four-year eligible but they have like grown men on that team i know
[01:44:17] you know what i'm saying with the by with the byu at quarterback yeah you know what i mean but western
[01:44:24] kentucky one game out of first place and they play first place jacksonville state to close out the
[01:44:29] season mr logical where's jacksonville state that would normally be a good guess but they're in
[01:44:41] alabama on that note folks and that's the team that beat florida state that i was talking about
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